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Is Infinite Jest so infinitely popular in the US because it's a nation obsessed/plagued with drugs?
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probably
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>>9366875
It's more about quirkiness
Also the cover is oddly emblematic: it's not really beautiful, but it fits his context perfectly
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>popular

You should leave this board once in a while.

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Does /lit/ ever take trips to get inspiration?
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>>9366873
Trips of the mind more like if you know what I mean.
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>>9366873
Yes, because this board is full of bougie trust-fund babies.
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>>9366936
Shit reply, because bougie trust-fund babies stay at home all day.

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What should I read before getting into Schopenhauer's works? I want to be able to understand his ideas fully.
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Kant, everyone Kant responded to, and everyone who interpreted him (especially in relation to the thing-in-itself or aesthetics) in between. And the Upanishads.

You probably don't want to understand his ideas fully at all.
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>>9366812
I cant understand threads like this. Either you have been reading your whole life and go into a work with the totality of both your life and reading experience, or youve never read, and are jumping into the deep end without an ability to swim.
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>>9366849
That's how I learned to swim to be honest.

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Post comfy books to relax with Inbetween big works
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>>9366737
this is a good read
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>>9366911
does anyone have the one that says "classic philip is high as dick"? that's a good one
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>>9366921
ive never seen that one before! This is my fav

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Matthew > John > Luke > Mark
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>>9366731
I'd put John above Matthew, but that might just be my mystical inclinations showing.
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>all this Mark bullying
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Luke > John > Matthew > Mark

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Why is it that all over reaching, incoherent, unfalsifiable, and just plain stupid academic theories / areas viciously denounced unless they conform to the preferences of left wing critical theory lovers. Why can't people see that they're all charlatans?

I see topics trying to decipher Hegel and I don't know who's trolling who or if the posters are all low IQers. Rather than try to understand the internal logic of Hegel, why not treat it as a black box and ask its practitioners to make falsifiable predictions with it. I'm sure that's fucking easy for them since they never shut up about how Capeetal / History is explained by their theories. If they manage to predict things then we have a good sign that the theory isn't self referential nonsense.

Of course what I am describing is feasible yet I am humouring them because they'd never do it and I know right this second there are outraged people who will say I am stupid. They will say the theory shouldn't have to do anything. And then I will ask, "So why should your theory be given attention or government subsidies over the infinitely many possible other theories?" Then I will get no answer.
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My diary desu
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>>9366699
The universe is a complicated place and therefoer good theory is a complicated matter.

Reading 30 pages Popper about falsification isn't a proper scientific foundation for deciphering questions about consciousness or societal ideology.

I agree that theres a plurality of stupid academics producing shit however OP it's a part of the scientific community to be an active swarm of researchers.

Besides this i hate your reductionist bullshit. Predictability isn't an objective science. Just as the nature of light is either energy or waves lots of shit depends on which position you behold it from. This is highly true with history and societal/cultural events which is constantly retroactively rewritten according to the discourses in the present.
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>>9366732

>Just as the nature of light is either energy or waves lots of shit depends on which position you behold it from

How about you stop trying to interpret science through an ideological lens.

But yeah, there can never be a predictive theory for all of history, asking these idealogues to use their theory to do so is silly.

But by the same token, god I hate people taking different aspects of critical theory as a pseudo religion and interpreting the entire world through it. These people are incapable of entertaining a point of view intellectually and not having it become this pseudo spiritual thing for them, wherein they attempt to re-craft the world in its image.

What's the oldest piece of media that has been perceived by its contemporaries as "so bad it's good"? How old is this phenomenon?
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The Shaggs comes to mind, but I'm sure there must be older, literary, examples.
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>>9366642
That's a good question. Had never thought about that.

Something that comes to mind are the kind of knights stories that Cervantes makes a parody of in Don Quixote. I'm literally pulling this out of my ass, but I think there's some chance that if asked about these kind of literature he could have said that he enjoyed some of that because "they're so bad it's good".
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>>9366642
Amanda McKittrick Ros

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>Roman history told through the Italian-American mafia.
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>>9366583
This sounds terrible
>The Rise and Fall of the United States of America
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The complete and irrefutable history of the origins of the Universe
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>>9366988
I was making a comparison between America and Rome and I thought a similar book would be fun to read

Did post-structuralists ever recover?
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I wonder, to myself, if this is a worthy read or a meme. If I have to believe in post-structuralism or ruin myself by associating with the believers to even value this, or if this will give me a repulsive aftertaste that makes me genuinely hate something I hadn't hated before.
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Foucault was always a forced meme and it's frankly insane that anyone ever took him seriously to any extent.
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>>9366531
I'm sorry, you're using king post-structuralist to critique post-structuralism?

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>its an Evola the magic virgin vs 1st year English students thread
>its a lets all pretend we hate this thing thread
>its a lets all pretend I've read this book thread
>its an English major has some hot opinions thread
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>it's an "it's a[n] thread"
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>>9366296
>it's a Melville is truly a truly transcendent writer thread

>it's a Pynchon memes thread

>it's a communist memes thread
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>its an Ayn Rand thread
>not a single person in the thread read anything she wrote
>300+ replies and all of them are variation of "she went on welfare, what a hypocrite!", "she was evil!", or "her """philosophy""" aside, she was a terrible writer!"
I mean I haven't read her either since I'm not an American, but Jesus Christ people, don't you ever get tired of regurgitating the same three lines over and over again?

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What's some good literature that deal with aliens (extraterrestial persons). Keep in mind, I'm looking for LITERATURE. Not genre-shit. Keep that in mind.

And actual aliens. Not space-jizz on an asteroid.
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Childhoods end is close
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Sorry that I can't really articulate this well in English. I want to read a book about a dude who spends his youth doing something difficult but ultimately pointless, and then grows old unappreciated and bitter or turns into something nasty. Like, "your glory days are over and now you have to reintegrate into society and pretend that nothing fucked up ever happened." Kind of like the feel of reading about a disillusioned Russian veteran of Afghanistan struggling to get by a decade after the war, or the emotion expressed at the end of that Osamu Tezuka manga, "The Book of Human Insects," when Toshiko Tomura talks about being lonely after fucking over everybody who ever loved her. I really like this kind of feel in fiction, like when it's after the actual action and your protagonist is dealing with the fallout of the shit that they have done in their life. Can I get recommendations for books with this feel? I've been reading a bunch of nonfiction dealing with European colonial wars and the Soviet involvement in Afghanistan, and also books like Platform and Vineland that have that same washed-up and washed-out feel to them, but I need more to read.
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>>9366182
The Tartar Steppe is about this.
A guy spend his whole life on a station frontier, waiting for a war that may never come. It's a masterpiece of the first existentialist wave.
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>>9366191
Thank you for the response. I will check it out.
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Stoner is in that vein, but he doesn't ever grow bitter

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https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/apr/10/colson-whitehead-underground-railroad-pulitzer-prize-2017

i'll just leave this here
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>>9366012

>black guy receives pity prize for writing about black things

wow i am

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Whithead is shit though.

If they wanted a diversity pick couldn't they have dredged up something better?
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Why didn't my white privilege stop this from happening?

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Should I read Naked Lunch? Is it worthwhile? What should I expect?
Also should I read The Soft Machine?
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yes
yes
an impressionistic hellscape of junk, sodomy, and conspiracies
YES (don't pass up ticket that exploded either)
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>>9366013
Thank you mane.
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>>9365998
Yes to both.

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Why is philosophy a failed field?
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Aristotle
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>>9365952

It's not. Read Schopenhauer's forwards to World as Will and Representation. Real philosophers are always 99.999th percentile and show up in unexpected places while the academy is busy circle-jerking. With the advent of technology circle-jerking has just gotten more efficient, that's all.
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It fails only in that it can not end

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