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Read any nice homo books lately?
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>>9371589
your diary
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the upside to the muslim takeover of the west is that they'll throw people like you off of buildings
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moby dick

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Recommend me (good) books on taoism, /lit/

pic related
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It's really bizarre that taoism has become a cash-grab for an American market.
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>>9371302
Has it? I doubt that is a coincidence. Maybe taoism is rising because the world more than ever needs tao. I can't see how it could go wrong since greed has no need for tao and tao has no need for greed. The age of piglet is upon us.
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>>9371429
Yah. There's no way the western world could possibly corrupt ancient eastern spiritual principles.

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Have you guys ever masturbated to a book before? What are some of the best written sex scenes you've seen in a novel, ones that were actually worth reading?
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>>9371264
Therese raqiun

The sex scene in 1984

Also Steven king books can get very kinky from what I remember. Fairly sure there was a part in the shining where the husband strips his wife. Gave me a raging boner when I was 14
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>>9371264

if on a winter's night a traveller, both the chapter with gunpoint femdom and the japanese housewife, tbqh.
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lolita -- pretty much the entire book

Thoughts on this? Loved the "discontinuous first-person” but found the ending a little at odds with her character.

One of my fav NYRB so far. What are some others?
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>>9371247
Looks interesting, I'll check it out.

One of my favourite is The Book of Ebenezer Le Page, by G.B. Edwards.
It's a very long and thorough story of the life of one man on Guernsey, but is filled with charm and a sea of characters, while showing the development of the island in the twentieth century. I recommend it to everyone I know.

I also really enjoy
>Journey by Moonlight - Antal Szerb
>Skylark - Dezső Kosztolányi
>The Summer Book - Tove Jansson
>Hard Rain Falling - Don Carpenter
>The Invention of Morel - Adolfo Bioy Casares
>The Door - Magda Szabó

But these are much more well known, on /lit/ and in general.
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Beware of Pity
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Has anyone else on this board read Zama? I haven't seen in mentioned before and I'm curious what other people thought.

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There are no new philosophical questions to be raised.

All questions have already been asked hundreds of years before us, and have been answered in a variety of ways, too. Pick one that pertains to you the most.

The age of information has made philosophy obsolete - great thinkers redundant and even misguided, brushed aside because society is now governed by the rule of "question everything", question everything before you had a chance to understand it, even.

How should we live our lives now? There is no more room for discovery beyond science and technology. No more room for romanticism and the study of human thought or relation. I cannot think of a single living person, that isn't an intellectual laughing stock like Zizek or whoever else, that is actively engaged in the philosophical and the intellectual.

Why isn't this being discussed? Great literature is often times born out of philosophy, and if the latter is a dying field, then surely literature will gradually follow suit. Books will get shorter, the messages hamfisted and regurgitated, and varied intellectualism will be buried beneath the dominant trend of post-modern intellectualism, where every subject is offensive, discussion is forbidden, and feelings are kings. Everything is a lie until proven otherwise.

Concepts like "Duty" or "Honor" are laughworthy, if one feels content happiness, he is outside of critique. Even if that often translates to vile excess or selfishness. As long as one doesn't directly harm others, he is free to do as he pleases, and any criticism of that person is unjust and uncalled for. "Why do you care?" "What's it to you?"

This is no room for greatness or ground breaking thought.
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>>9371238
There's room. There are some things. The world still thinks that sex is somehow related to dignity.
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>Now I dont know anything about contemporary philosophy but let me tell you everything about it
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>>9371246
While we're at it, why were so many great thinkers sexual deviants? Marquis De Sade, Freud, Joyce, Caligula, Einstein, etc.

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was dostoyevsky the underground man? reading his work it's apparent he was a brilliant psychological thinker but the protagonist in notes is so well realised that i can't help but think the book is autobiographical, with dosto making it clear that the main character is not based on him in an attempt to save face
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Big if true
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What is noteworthy about Dostoyevsky's works in general is that his protagonists are either in the realm of being (semi-)autobiographical or being his ideal.

Don't forget to consider Dostoyevsky has an incredible acumen in regard of psychologizing people.

To your initial question: I didn't read this book, but all five major novels of his, and having some background info on him put a lot of content from his works into perspective.
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>>9371064
go back behind your paywall you fucking retard

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How did Camus decide the struggle itself is meaningful? If I work overtime at my shitty job I don't feel anything positive.
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>>9371003
Camus does not invent anything. Inventing meaning has been done by men since they contrived a society. The whole purpose of a society is precisely giving meaning and morality, purposes, merit, loyalty about any human activity done at the time of the society since all those spooks of meaning and morality are not found in ''nature'' and men cannot stand to be useless and just provide for women.
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>>9371011
You're dodging my point. How are we supposed to "imagine Sisyphus happy". Pushing a boulder up a hill forever seems like a metaphor for being a wageslave.
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>>9371033
Have you actually read his work, or just that quote?

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What does Stirner mean when he refers to "his property".

Among actual things, goals and people I've also seen him ascribe it to his own characteristics.

In Stirner's view are one's characteristics mutable i.e. could he reject certain qualities he finds undesirable?
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>>9370955
Your house.
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>>9370955
Things that are inside your realm of possibilities
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Descartes' res extensa

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Could you recommend another novel by this author to me?

I've read "Clusterf***" and "Sausagey Santa". I liked the former much more, for the following reasons:
- Characters had surprising nuance and their decisions had an effect on the plot.
- It touched on social commentary.
- Every bit of insanity was either important to the plot, or was relevant worldbuilding, as opposed to just being there. Being more grounded in reality might have helped.
- When I finished the book, I felt something was accomplished, while "Sausagey Santa" was mostly fluff.

Did he have other novels that fit these criteria?
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Poopdick
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>>9370952
I actually Googled it. You might have made a funny by accident.
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>>9370944
Clusterfuck I have yet to read... but;

Adolf in Wonderland
Sunset with a beard {collection of stories}

>maybe:
The baby Jesus buttplug
{Though far below Adolf in Wonderland, it does make one reflect on certain things because they are so explicit}

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Are literary agents stupid? Do they even read, and know the classics? And if not, why the hell are they doing what they are doing?
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Calm down, OP, everyone gets rejected multiple times. It's part of the process.
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They have a set of goals that diverge from yours.
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i want to cum on her face

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Though I adore it and cherish it in a way I don't really understand what rimbaud did for poetry. Who is an analogous contemporary of him?

Did he usurp the classicists? or did he simply breathe into the world a point on which all subsequent poetry would ground their arguments in?
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>>9370696
also, i'm drunk, so please forgive my syntax and application of grammar.
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Symbolism?
Verlaine, lautréamont, ...
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>>9370704
please explain

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I've been writing a poetry collection, and I would love to have some of your input. will post poems if you all take an interest.
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How can we take an interest in something you don't post?
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>>9370584
well i will now good sir

“A Petal of Oleander for the Disgracefulness Enough to Expect the Facile Salvation”
On the very first day of June
In the stage you carved out yourself
A fragile doll is engulfed in rhythm

Words flooded from the holes in your throat
My heart, caved into itself, truly a spectacle
Those things people called dreams, invaded my life

The man draped in humility was humiliated
Cursing our entire entirety
Wrapped us together with blue twine
Our heart rates violent
Our hope vindicated
We, mutually violated

The language still projecting from your eyes
Was scraped from the bottom of your heart
I'd want you to forgive
As miserable as I am

On the final day of August
A sutured wound reveals itself again
On the body of that fragile doll

A single black flower falters from the tree with only one branch
Possibly, an oleander flower

The skyscrapers we've erected have been bleeding onto the innocent
The white snow crumbling beneath us
Criticism and controversy from those covering their ears
Cups of poison in the hands of those who laugh
Truly,disgraceful

He, curated in controversy
Deprived us of our chosen departure
Enslaving our faults together in blue twine
Piling our vessels
Cracked and hollow alike
Compiled together

Your Projection,engulfed in ash
I wish that as they see faith carry him to heaven
You would push your heels down to the earth
And feel what grows after tragedy
Our grand salvation is spread out thinly for us all via the God{s}
And the grand sum of our disparity lies behind the event horizon where the sun sets
And those grand hands with lace around them, pluck at those desiring punishment
And that grand forgiveness,is overshadowed by the light that visits us scarcely

That omnipotence to degrade me, to devour me, to redeem

Is a song for the deaf

The digits of our first lover has carved out this world for us
That happiness will cease to elude us all, surely
God{s}, calios by design
Neglects the punishment i so rightly deserve upon my crooked back

Today the smoke of the earth has planted seeds for my children to inherit
And they will grow from the palm of their hands
They will bear fruits of knives
And i'd ask them gently
“Shave my ears off, would you”
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>>9370597
>good sir
stopped reading there, apply yourself

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The Danger of Ebooks
In an age where business dominates our governments and writes our laws, every technological
advance offers business an opportunity to impose new restrictions on the public. Technologies
that could have empowered us are used to chain us instead.

With printed books,
•You can buy one with cash, anonymously.
•Then you own it.
•You are not required to sign a license that restricts your use of it.
•The format is known, and no proprietary technology is needed to read the book.
•You have the right to give, lend or sell the book to another.
•You can, physically, copy the book, and it's sometimes lawful under copyright.
•Nobody has the power to remotely destroy your book.

Contrast that with Amazon ebooks (fairly typical):
•Amazon requires users to identify themselves to get an ebook.
•In some countries, including the US, Amazon says the user cannot own the ebook.
•Amazon requires the user to accept a restrictive license on use of the ebook.
•The format is secret and only proprietary user-restricting software lawfully supports it.
•The Kindle tells Amazon what page the user is reading, plus any notes the user enters.
•An ersatz “lending” is allowed for some books, for a limited time, but only by
specifying by name another user of the same system. No giving or selling.
•Copying the ebook is blocked by Digital Restrictions Management .
•Amazon can remotely delete the ebook using a back door.
In 2009, Amazon deleted thousands of copies of George Orwell's 1984. this way.
•Amazon can do anythingto a Kindle user through a universal back door.

Each one of these infringements makes these ebooks ethically inferior to printed books. We must
demand that ebooks respect the whole of readers' traditional freedom
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>>9370403
well be just fine
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>>9370403
Take off your tinfoil hat, cunt.

Nobody gives a flying fuck about your hentai browsing history.
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>>9370409
>>9370413
disgraces

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Where do you get your ebooks from /lit/?
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not telling because i hate each and every one of you
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Libgen and #bookz on undernet, you can find both easily using google guides. Have a pleasant day!
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Would you guys recommend using a proxy while on libgen? I feel like it's too easy to use... seems like nobody cares.

Sorry if this is a stupid question. Thanks in advance.

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Matt sloshed through the bog.

Swamp muck shackled his advance.
He fell to his hands as his feet sank deeper.
Frogs croaked all around as the insects screamed.

Matt did not scream. Calmly he allowed the mud, the roots and swamp to ingest him.

Lower and lower he sank.
The water sapped his heat.

Matt relaxed completely. Why would he feel anxious. This place was made for him.

Death wasn't close. Heaven was in this bog.
It was so pure. Untouched by civilization.

Finally the muck was level with his eyelids.
Time was slowing now.

Day and night came ferociously.
The insects rose and fed and bred and laid and died and cycled consistently.
The amphibians raced like darts leaving echoes.

The bog crept higher still.

Day and night stood still.
Twilight embraced him.
A gray light just bright enough to make out features shown constantly.
Sun and moon became moving streaks across the sky
like electrons in the nucleus.

The trees and vines began to burn with activity in the dullness.
Vibrantly growing and shrinking faster and further
The old was gone.
New began and before it was recognizable it was different.

Matt was under the cool water now, air bubbled up so slowly from his mouth
the muck filled his lungs in return.

He stopped breathing, no longer able to feel himself;
He could feel the bog around him.
He became intwined with the world around him.
Changing, feeling, entranced in the wholeness....
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>>9370317
The story seems to be reaching for grand significance, but i don't think it's there yet. The pacing is odd, there are also some inexplicable word choices. For instance, there are no electrons in a nucleus, so the imagery becomes confused. I'd be interested to see a refined draft.
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I wrote in one swoop so it probably doesn't make complete sense.

It comes at a time where in my life I am in love with a woman who is a devout christian and i came into the relationship atheist completely comfortable dissolving into the bog. Thank you for your input. I doubt i'd revise it, I don't really know how without modifying the original feeling i wasn't sure i was trying to portray.

Thank you for your input. It has been helpful psychoanalytically.
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>>9370317
This is what we call a 'prose poem' anon

Try elaborating on the reasons why he decided to commit suicide. The image of a man drowning himself is compelling, but, unless you're WB Yeats, flowery descriptions are not enough. Keep working on it.

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