How recent are national indentities on western europe. Specifically England, France, and Germany. I have heard some people say they emerged as early as the late middle ages for a place like England and as late as the early early 1800s for Germany. (And yes i know the map is pretty inaccurate)
>>3068139
I don't know much about early European history but aren't most countries and cultures in Europe tied to the native ethnicities?
For example, France is France because of the French, Germany is Germany because of Germans, Sweden is Swedish because of the Swedes etc.
Burgundy is still under occupation to this day.
>>3068182
Well its not that simple in a way the french became french because they were living in France. There used to be many more cultures especially in southern France.
One of the biggest slanders against the Confederacy was that it was some sort of Nazi-like racist organization. This was hardly true at all, in fact the Secretary of State for the Confederacy was a jew.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judah_P._Benjamin
>>3068132
He was Sephardic. That's why he's based. The Ashkenazi Jews are the degenerate one. Another based Moroccan-Sephardic Jew:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Levy_Yulee
>>3068132
>some sort of Nazi-like racist organization
Well, If you fight for Slavery that is what you are, no matter the occasional Jew you got.
>>3068132
>they had a jew, so the fact that they had slavery based entirly around racist ideals is moot!
how are there people who are this retarded?
Were there any real historical figures very similar to him? I know there are a number of historical figures very similar to Guts, but what about Griffith?
Genghis Khan
Who designed this creature?
>>3067905
God got lazy and subcontracted a lot of design work. Also, this is not /his/torical enough.
an artist
A malicious god.
What a hack of a people.
>>3067625
Imagine if they did write down things the way romans did.
>>3068961
You mean mostly a bunch of useless propaganda?
Any ideas?
History might have turned out completely differently.
They feared the Etruscan warrior.
>>3067636
You might be onto something. They didn't colonize Anatolia either. Anatolians were kryptonite of the Semite?
>>3067624
>a trading post is a colonie
When will this meme die?
Why did it take "realistic" paintingtook so long to fully develop compared to realistic sculpture?
Antiquity gave us so many famously lifelike statues, but even relatively realistic Roman wall paintings struggle to convey depth. Was this simply a matter of technique? It seems strange to me that obviously highly skilled painters would have such difficulty painting scenes which later artists managed to do in great numbers.
Or am I just underinformed and there are pre-Renaissance examples of highly realistic painting? pic related is the closest I know of but I am not well versed in the subject. (I am aware that "Realism" properly refers to a specific artistic movement but I don't know what else to call it)
also, Pre-Renaissance Art History general
>>3067428
because to know how depth works you have to know how light works and we didn't know that until Arabs discovered it
Here's a little experiment for you since you seem to lack first hand experience with the arts. Take some Play-Doh and attempt to make a representation of a human head, now take done crayons and try to do the same thing.
We live in a three dimensional reality, so representing the world we experience as such comes a little easier. You are able to walk around a sculpture, and a model, and observe/compare things like depth first hand. Drawing and painting are two dimensional abstractions from a three dimensional world, they're inherently more difficult, and it's nothing short of a miracle that some artists managed to do so with accuracy. Like anything else done my mankind, once it had been done successfully once or twice, people learned from the past greats through imitation or teaching.
>>3067428
The classical Greeks were fairly close to the early Renaissance masters, and that's without the understanding of true perspective and with much shittier tools.
Here's a mosaic copy of a 5th century BC painting by Zeuxis - almost 2000 goddamn years before the Renaissance. Imagine how much better the original would have been without the limitations mosaics force. On top of that, Zeuxis wasn't even the best painter:
>According to the Naturalis Historia of Pliny the Elder, Zeuxis and his contemporary Parrhasius (of Ephesus and later Athens) staged a contest to determine the greater artist. When Zeuxis unveiled his painting of grapes, they appeared so real that birds flew down to peck at them. But when Parrhasius, whose painting was concealed behind a curtain, asked Zeuxis to pull aside that curtain, the curtain itself turned out to be a painted illusion. Parrhasius won, and Zeuxis said, "I have deceived the birds, but Parrhasius has deceived Zeuxis."
Why do we hate these guys again?
Only buttblasted byzzieboos desu, venice was based
>>3067423
Sea-jewry, and they sacked Constantinople, completely crippling the only power holding back the Muslim hordes.
I don't want to defend the 13th-century Byzantines because they were super corrupt, but Venice sacking Constantinople and weakening them is what allowed the Ottomans to finally break into Europe proper.
Even after the Greeks took the city back, it never fully recovered.
>>3067423
/we/ don't.
western europe and its descendants owe a lot to them.
Post big armies getting their shit destroyed:
>Battle of Cartagena de Indias
>British Empire vs Spain
>30,000 Brits vs 4,00 Spanirds
>40 British ships vs 6 Spanish Ships
>Decisive Spanish victory: British withdrawal, Spain consolidates its supremacy in America.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cartagena_de_Indias#
When Portugal BTFO Castille
What went wrong?
same reason everything goes wrong democrats
>>3067377
racism
Let's say for whatever reason Hitler wasn't a terrible military leader, he asked Japan to help fight the Soviets, the D-Day landing failed and Nazi Germany came out victorious in WW2 after England agreed to sign an armistice or something. From what I've seen in documentaries, Hitler never planned on world domination or anything like you see in alt history video games or movies so I don't expect him to try to go for the U.S, Canada, South Africa etc.
How would Germany's victory have affected politics, society and culture outside of Europe? Would third world countries be fucked because Nazi Europe would refuse trade with them in the future? Would England isolate themselves from the rest of Europe and fortify the island in fear of a future invasion? Would all other nations of the world have to pretty much suck up to Germany? Would there be only 1 super power in the world?
Cold war between Germany and USA, bigger Germany and nothing much.
Well, probably we would be talking about 4th world countries instead of 3rd ones, since NatSoc countries would be a thing.
>>3067214
So it might end up like the actual Cold War with a chance of one power experience economic collapse? Probably the US
>>3067209
>D-Day landing failed and Nazi Germany came out victorious
After Kursk there was virtually no possibility for German victory.
Even if D-Day failed the Soviets would've still fucked up Germans with Bagration and maybe even pushed all the way towards France or something.
>armistice
Separate peace was never an option for the Allies. Their goal was unconditional surrender all along.
Perfect rules doesn't exi-
>>3067031
rulers... FUCK
>>3067032
that ain't no ruler, son, that's Napoleon
>Perfect ruler
Yeah pointlessly dying in Russia is so perfect
I'll start:
>China being a continuous civilization since 5000 years ago
In reality the first Chinese texts date back to 1200-1050 bc, so that's 3000 years.
>Indian holy texts being 4000 years old
The first Indian written documents found aren't older than like 2500 years (Leaving Harappa civilization aside which wasn't India)
>Gadir is the oldest city in Europe founded by Phoenicians around 1100 bc
This is false and based on Greek myths, in reality Gadir dates back to 800-750 bc, Phoencians didn't start settling the West Med before that age, and there are older cities in Europe, both in Greece and in the rest of Southern Europe.
>The bible was starting to get written down 3500 years ago or earlier
The first Biblical texts all date back after the Babylonian captivity around 550 bc
Not sure if it fits, but many of the castles still standing that are shown to tourists were either built or rebuilt in the 18 or 19th century (see Gothic Revival).
Many people who see pictures of these just assume they are centuries old.
>>3066985
Theres a castle in Wales which was built in the 1800s by some ultra rich guy. I used to think it had been there for years.
>>3066970
What's the oldest city on earth still inhabited ? Byblos ?
How much do Americans know about the Roman Empire?
Gladiator(2000)
>>3066961
Anything else?
>>3066981
More recently and youth: absolutely nothing. Many will not even know what Rome is aside from the city itself
Is Pope Joan real or a meme?
>>3066932
>Real persons cant be memes
>>3066932
>Memes can't be real
>>3066932
>reality is a meme