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Kanye Edition

Previous Thread: >>172238885

NEWS
>Free 20th anniversary PS3/PS4 theme plus PS4 avatars: http://personacentral.com/persona-20th-anniversary-theme-p5-costume-dlc-released-free/
>New Persona games to be announced 2017: http://personacentral.com/atlus-to-announce-several-games-in-2017-includes-the-persona-series/
>New Atlus studio "Studio 0" to create new RPG named Project Re Fantasy: http://personacentral.com/atlus-project-re-fantasy-concept-video-site-update/
>Persona 20th Anniversary radio CD announced: http://personacentral.com/persona-20th-anniversary-radio-cd-detailed/
>Take Your Heart and Steelbook Editions for NA up for pre-orders at Gamestop and Amazon
>P5's English Cast is shit: http://personacentral.com/persona-5-voice-cast-revealed-protagonist-trailer/
>Persona 5 Dual Audio confirmed for April 4th 2017: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/11/16/persona-5-launching-april-4-2017-will-feature-dual-audio-on-ps4-and-ps3/

INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S
GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb
>Picture of Yuki
http://i.imgur.com/wxFrIqP.png
>Picture of Floral Pants Man (and his sidekick)
http://i.imgur.com/cKTK7sI.png

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona image collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Persona 5 Resources
http://pastebin.com/CZEvEgiE

MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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Anal with Makoto!
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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3rd for suicide
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Would you Anne's English VA?
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Apparently the full name of the Phanchan site is the "Phantom Aficionados Website"
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You can't deny this much longer. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
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>>172294545
I want Erika Harlacher to bend me over and fuck me with her giant tranny cock!
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Dub Goro's sounds so awkward
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I honestly dont care I gonna call anne ann because whats the difference
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>>172294639
honestly i'd pump and dump it
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makoto's english VA sounds like a bitchier mitsuru desu
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>>172294639
Anne is hung!
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Honest question. I don't know how to verbalize the different syllable pronunciations in writing.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s14AnlAw6sDl
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>>172294831
I want to suck your toe
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>>172294831
Yes
Those are the correct ways to say them
Good work, you are now better than paid employees.
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>>172294831
yes, obviously.
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>>172294831
cute voice
stream p5
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>>172294831
yes

now say lewd things into vocaroo
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>>172294831
god you are just begging for dick
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/pg/ - thirst general
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how much effort would it take to just edit the texture to be in english
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>>172294359
What's with the oddly formal translation for this line? That sounds more like the way he speaks when he's on stage, where he actually is pretty polite. When he's talking to Joker off-stage, he's almost overly casual.

>"Haha, sorry, sorry. I mean that my discussion with you was very worthwhile."

I hope that's not how they're handling his detective act as a whole, because that level of politeness even in casual conversation is a bit too much compared to how he speaks in the original text.
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>>172295131
inb4 atlus butchered goro reeeeeeeee
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>Makoto's dub
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>>172294831
they're trying to pronounce them all japanese-y but they're putting stress on the wrong syllables, they're saying akechi weird too
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>>172295131
it could just be their trademark stiff prose at work
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>>172294742
She sounds better than what I was expecting and she's supposed to be like that at first. Still, I feel they told Cherami to go for a Mitsuru vibe.
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>>172295321
Let me guess, are they pronouncing it like how Eikichi's name is supposed to be said?
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>>172295321
this is coming from the studio that brought you Do-JI-ma and YU-ki-ko, i'm not entirely sure why people are saying this is new to the series.
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>>172295419
I think it's because it's a lot more glaringly bad than those examples.
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I figured out why Takemi sounds so off
She sounds like an M to F transexual
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>>172295409
https://streamable.com/0zp7r
>>172295419
I know it's not, that doesn't mean I can't be mildly peeved about it since it's been years.
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>>172295517
they're all stressing incorrect syllables regardless, it's very noticeable when you play P3/P4 subbed.
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>>172294365
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>>172295612
before ryuji said "whaddya want" goro mentioned pancakes right? RIGHT?
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>>172295718
he mentions them before he leaves also he says "delicious cake" and not pancakes
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>>172295776
No fucking way
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>>172295776
FUCK MAI NAMBA FUCK THAT FUCKING CUNT THAT GODFMAN HWHORE DIVERSIT YHIRE PEICE OF FUCKING SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
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>>172295776
Fuck Atlus.
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>>172295776
is that a lie????
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>>172295776
You better be fucking pulling my leg
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>>172295813
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>>172295776
>also he says "delicious cake" and not pancakes
>>172295925
NO
NO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>172295925
NO NO NO GORO WAS SUPPOSE TO BE RAPED BY PANCAKES NOT CAKE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172295925
I guess it's "cake-aku doori" now
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>>172295925
KILLED THE FUCKING GAME KILLED YOUR FUCKING GAME RUIN EVERYTHING THEY TOUCH HAVE NOT CONTRIBUTED ANYTHING TO SOCIETY FUCKING FUCK EVERY FUCKING THING UP FUCK EVERYTHING UP STOP FUCKING TOLERATING IT STOP LETTING THEM DO THIS SHIT STAND UP FOR YOURSELF FOR ONCE
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>>172295925
oh look eops being dumb again
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>>172296058
i posted that as a joke to make /pg/ lose their minds
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12623836
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12623836
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stream vod for the justice rank 1 scene at twitch / videos / 131671794 by the way, starts at like 4 hours 30 mins in.
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>>172295223
I wouldn't say they butchered him off of that alone, but it's a bit of a weird decision. Him being more casual when he's around Joker (and the rest of the party) has signifiance, so he shouldn't be as formal as he is during his TV show appearances (which have him use the type of polite speech I'd expect to be translated like this).

I could see it being a problem if that continues past that point in the game, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

>>172295332
I don't think that's it. If stiff over-literal translation was the problem here, I could see "quite" happening for とても despite the casual tone of the line, but they wouldn't translate ごめんごめん as "my apologies" (that'd make more sense for すみません, which he does actually use when he's using politer speech in the JP version).

If it's just that scene, it might be the translator or editor screwing up and not noticing that he switches from polite speech on-stage to casual speech on-stage. If it continues in his upcoming scenes, though, that's probably a sign that overplaying the politeness is how Atlus USA is trying to differentiate between his real self and the act he puts up, which would be a problem because the difference between those isn't actually that big (he switches from 僕 to 俺 and slips into rougher speech when angry, but past that it's not far off from his normal casual speech).

>>172295612
>https://streamable.com/0zp7r
Yep. They're fucking up his speech. The only line in that part that should be polite is his introduction, the rest use casual speech, while here he comes off as too formal the whole time. That's not a good sign.

>>172295776
>that spoiler
Ryuji or Goro? Ryuji's line uses ケーキ, so that'd be the translator forgetting what that should be in context, while Goro uses パンケーキ in full, so that'd be them screwing up outright.
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>Sadayo's maid name is Becky

HARDIIIIIIIN
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>>172296283
That's her name in Japanese too dumb fuck
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>>172296283
can anyone actually hate Hardin at this point when it's clear Atlus USA is rotten to the core
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>>172296230
>they are completely ruining Goro's character, to the point where it is actively detrimental to the plot
>/pg/ still denies this is Atlus's worst localization since Revelations Persona
>/pg/ still thinks this is has a chance of scoring better than P4G or even P3P
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>>172296548
that room looks weird, like i dunno, it's just a static image and their models are pasted on top of it or something
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>>172296714
gee maybe because it is
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>>172295925
How the fuck did they ruin this? I'm not one to gripe so much about dubs but this is fucking awful. It's literally パンケーキ in Japanese. It's not that fucking hard. You can't even blame this on difficult kanji.
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>>172296548
Paizuri with sensei!
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>>172296820
t. EOP

>>172296058
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>>172296739
>>172295925
WHICH ONE IS REAL
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>>172296820
>How the fuck did they ruin this?
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>>172296839
*Becky
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>>172296820
he says ケーキ for that line and then the full パンケーキ in >>172296739 this one i think, i can't remember exactly

>>172296862
they're different lines ya dingus
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>Gorofags kneejerking again
>Gorofags are all EOP
What a surprise
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>>172296874
THAT IS HER NAME IN NIP YOU FUCKING IDIOT
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>>172296973
Dude they're just trolling. Don't get caught up in it.
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>>172296973
>Japanese character has an American first name
sure. can't wait for the reply to be "hahaha EOP!!!" like you actually know japanese
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>>172296956
>look mom I called them EOP again

the only confusion was because only a few people were there for a the full scene on the stream
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>>172296956
this is just half shitposters, half eops, all /v/
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The White were right.
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Okay because people are retards, here.
He says ケーキ first, Ryuji asks what he's talking about, and then he says パンケーキ.
There is literally nothing wrong with the translation here - you're making fools of yourselves.
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>>172297160
So the dialogue sequence is this first >>172295925 then this >>172296739 right?
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>>172297160
t. XX running damage control
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>>172297284
Yes.
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>>172297284
yes, dummy
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Joker is unhealthy!
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>>172296739
Alright, looks like the pancake thing is fine here (and the other one used ケーキ originally too, so that's a context goof in English but not quite a mistranslation). The rest of the line... not so much, he's still coming off as too formal compared to the original (>>172296230). To keep the line's original tone and politeness level, something like this would've been better:

>"Huh, I guess I was wrong. I thought I heard... "delicious pancake," or something like that."

>>172296561
I said in the same comment you replied to that I wouldn't say they butchered him off of that alone. It's a red flag, but I'll have to see more of how they handled his speech mannerisms to say if it's a serious problem or not.

At the moment, it's potentially concerning, but could still just be them screwing up his initial scenes. If it continues into the scene with Makoto and the train station encounters, then it's time to be worried.

>>172296283
べっきぃ/Becky is the name she uses for the maid disguise in the Japanese version, too. That's not on Atlus USA.

>>172296956
There's an actual problem here (the way they're handling his speech mannerisms), but the pancake line reactions are kneejerking over nothing (or at worst, the translator missing that people don't really tend to shorten pancake to just -cake in English and not bothering to adjust that in translation).
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I've been paying on and off attention to kanyefag's stream for like an hour and he's still on the same day
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>>172297160
see >>172297041

it's not about people being retards, it's about being given half information until someone who saw the whole seen came around to clear it up. calm down.
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>>172297486
>I wouldn't say they butchered him off of that alone.
nothing about the translation has improved since a worrying start. there is no reason to believe that starts now.
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>>172297509
Shut the fuck up, retard.
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>>172297160
>Goro was undone by his own stupidity

This will never not be funny to me.
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>>172295776
he does say pancake, though. it's only the first line that's "cake" and then he switches to "pancake". oh my god stop fishing for (You)s.
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>>172297581
to be honest, he's not aware of Morgana at that point.
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>>172297581
He didn't know about Morgana.
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>>172297486
Funnily enough we shorten pancakes to cakes around here. But that's only because the pancake house thing is popular as fuck and everyone knows what you mean.

Anyway, I don't get why people are trying to shit on the translation so hard.
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wait, so this was known by some people??? MC overhears it like the day after he meets goro? the fuck?
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>>172297573
u mad? yeah, u mad
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>>172297624
>>172297689
Well sure, it was ignorance as well. It's still funny. Just the idea that it can all be summed up as "shouldn't have tried the pancake angle."
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>>172297731
HAHAHAHAHA HOLY FUCK
THEY ARE STRAIGHT UP DESTROYING THE STORY
HOLY SHIT
THIS IS WORSE THAN REVELATIONS
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>>172297709
>Funnily enough we shorten pancakes to cakes around here

Where the hell do they call it "cakes?" I've never heard anyone call pancakes "cakes."
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>>172297731
don't ever underestimate fangirls
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>>172297803
>t. overreacting weeb
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>>172297731
Girls once again fulfilling the Crawling Chaos' agenda.
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>>172297803
>>172297731
I can't even tell what is actual butchering and what is ironic memeing at this point. My demoralization is complete.
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>>172297731
wew lad now this is actually bad translation
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>>172297972
>yfw Goro's suffering is a result of Nyarly's machination
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>>172298070
What would be the actual translation?
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>>172297803
relax, dude. it's obviously something that was there in the original. i'm just surprised that some people knew he was an orphan, even if it was a rumor. the part goro is most sensitive about is that he's also a bastard child.
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>>172298092
It wouldn't be he first time Nyarlathotep manipulated a rich politician.
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Why is Nyarly x Philemon the best couple?
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>>172297571
I don't think it'll necessarily improve, but the problem here could be that these two scenes have him use both polite speech (for one line in the first and his on-stage dialogue in the second) and whoever handled the editing screwed up. In that case, it might be a one-off error, since those circumstances shouldn't be present in the later scenes.

That's why I said it's time to be worried if that continues into the scene with Makoto and the train station scenes. If he's still overly formal then, it's the result of them mishandling his dialogue, not just a misguided editor trying to streamline his dialogue in a scene where he switches speech mannerisms.

>>172297709
I've never encountered that in English-speaking areas myself, but I don't think I've ever been in any where pancakes were that prevalent, so it's probably a regional thing. That part's pretty much a non-issue.

I don't think the localization's been too bad overall (it's been a bit below P3's level so far outside of a few lines, which was pretty poor too), but the thing with Goro's speech could potentially make him seem much more fake to western players than he's supposed to, so that's the first thing that's cropped up that could be a serious problem on par with P3's October 4th changes.

>>172297731
Yeah, him being a relatives-less orphan and self-supporting student is known. It's the illegitimate/unwanted child part that isn't. Not sure where they got the "grew up poor" part from though, the original line uses 苦学生 which just refers to a student who's not just studying but also working to to pay their own tuition and living expenses.
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>>172298276
>goro was born in 1999
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>>172298308
Because they make really lewd comments towards one another.
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>>172298402
does being an illegitimate child really have that big of a stigma in japan?
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>>172297837
Australian meth factories
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I want to bust a nut in Sensei's butt!
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>>172298402
>I don't think the localization's been too bad overall (it's been a bit below P3's level so far outside of a few lines, which was pretty poor too)
>below a pretty bad localization
>not too bad
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>>172298579
yeah
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>>172298402
Wait what happened to October 4th?
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>>172298579
Yes. I imagine Reiji's mom went through more hell since it was in the 80s and the baby daddy actually came back to beat her.

Ms. Akechi needed to step up her game.
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>>172298702
ken and shinji, ken was way less aggressive in japanese
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>>172298702
Nanako was born!
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>>172298815
wrong year
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god i wish that were me
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atlus usa has nothing announced after the caligula effect in may despite a backlog of japanese atlus games building up
honestly thinking they're going to dissolve over the summer
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>>172298978
Potter has a nice booty.
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>>172299054
is that why Hardin quit?
who's going to translate Atlus' games now?
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>>172298978
do you want to get killed, anon?
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>>172298742
Huh. That's a bit of a strange change. I probably wouldn't hate him so much if he didn't come off as a cunt like he did in the english version.
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>>172299182
NISA or XSEED would have to pick them up. if they didn't, nobody
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>>172298579
You'd be surprised. Orphans already have it pretty bad, but illegitimate children have it worse thanks to the emphasis on blood bonds, and it's seen as a huge blight on the family name, IIRC. If you want to look into it, I'd suggest reading up on single mothers in Japan as well, as that's almost always a related issue (and one that impacts both child and mother, though for obvious reasons it's a blight on the father if found out too).

>>172298652
So far, it's poor, but still serviceable in that most of the story and dialogue still comes across.

A genuinely bad translation would be something like Fire Emblem If/Fates, where the problems aren't merely stilted dialogue and the occasional poor translation or mistranslated speaking mannerism, but countless intentional changes that lead to most characters (and many scenes) ranging from "significantly different but still kind of recognizable" to "completely different characters who aren't even consistent with the changes to their characterization." Or machine translation-tier, which this isn't (there's been some strange errors, but still a far cry from machine translations).

>>172298702
I sort of went over that a few threads ago here >>171147054. It's a summary, but still long, so that's probably better than me quoting it outright.
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so that's what he was saying. tfw i'm still too dumb to really get it.
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>>172299219
looks like it's time to learn Nipponese
or Chinese
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>>172299182
Woah hold the fucking phone, Hardin quit?
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>>172299301
yeah, last month. Right before Valentine's. Funny, isn't it?
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>>172299301
jumped ship along with yu namba
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>>172299257
>Hegel
We /lit/ now
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>>172299395
is goro spooked
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>>172299301
its 2017 now bro
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>>172299301
no he got fired
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>>172299369
>>172299375
Thank god. Hardin was complete ass at his job, everything he said was complete bullshit.
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>>172299183
>not wanting to get killed by sweet yangire prince
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>>172299521
The whole company is complete bullshit
Hardin having the balls to leave makes him just that little bit marginally better
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>Disliking the dub and translation
Hardin would be furious
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>>172299257
He's talking about the hegelian dialectic. Now that I think about it, it does match with the Justice Arcana.
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feel like just cancelling my preorder at this point, my excitement is stillborn
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>>172299942
do it and wait for a price drop
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>>172299942
you won't. and you shouldn't
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>>172299942
1. the dub turned out exactly how we all thought it would
2. you still got dual audio
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>>172299942
preordering is usually a mistake anyway
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>>172299942
Do it. Let us band together to kill atlus usa.
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lmao fags
i'm glad i'm not such a weebshit i can't enjoy a game because muh voices aren't perfect
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>>172300298
>playing on dub
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>>172300351
i'm not, but i wouldn't cry about it if i had to.
i'm thankful they actually gave you babies dual audio, even if you lot still aren't satisfied.
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>I've had an early copy for a week now and all of Ryuji's dialogue makes me want to die. I'm just gonna take a wild guess and assume gis jp script wasn't full of "effing" and "what the eff!"
Ryuji doesn't catch a break even in burgerland
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>>172300510
>People thought Persona 5 would beat Persona 4
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>People thought persona 5 would be good
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>"On the 'net and such, aren't there people who say that without the Phantom Thieves, those crimes would still be continuing even now, though?"

I'm not even sure what happened here. Attempt to shorten the sentence gone wrong, I guess? In any case, "the PT help their victims abandon their evil ways" and "without the PT [their victims'] crimes would continue even now" aren't quite the same thing.

Not anywhere near as bad as them making Goro's casual lines as formal as how he talks during the show (which seems to be mostly fine), but still a pretty strange error.
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>People thought Persona
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>>172300510
>d-d-d-d-d-d-d-dual audio will fix it!!!
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>>172300676
>Had to restart the sentence three times to read it
Shit doesn't flow
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>>172300676
That's being way too anal, man.
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>People thought a jrpg in 2017 wouldn't be dead on arrival
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>>172300510
>desu translating "im not a beginner" as "im not a casual" is not so bad; people don't really describe hobbies with "beginner"
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>>172300815
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>>172300815
I've heard it both ways.

>>172300918
The main error hear is not using "freaking" if they HAD to have that fucking word in it. Effing is not something anyone outside of a teachers lounge, students present, would ever say.
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>>172300781
Rushjob translation for comparison, sorry. Just trying to get the general gist across for now.

>>172300782
I did say it's not anywhere near as bad, it's just an odd change that stood out while going over the scene. The translation makes the internet talk about the PT sound more positive than it is at the time, but it's a pretty minor error, just weird.
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>>172300918
>30 videos made for every individual funny animation and glitch in Mass Effect
>there won't be a single peep raised about Atlus USA massacring one of the best games of the generation
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>>172301216
You have to know Japanese or spend hours following and trusting autists to know about these things. No such skill or dedication is required to critique Mass Effect.
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The localization is so bad that other industry members like 8-4 are mocking it. This only happens with absolute trainwrecks, nobody wants to burn bridges with other industry members for the sake of a quick social media laugh unless it's an absolutely dire trainwreck. They left Hello Games and No Man's Sky alone, and only a Naughty Dog animator commented on Mass Effect specifically because he worked on ME1.

And now they're openly making fun of how bad P5's localization is.
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>>172301546
they mocked the pronunciation, that's literally it
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>>172301546
>>172301575
wait, what happened?
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>>172301575
It's the opening of the floodgates. A backlash against the game could easily spiral if one of the bigger Youtube/game sites catches on it. Crowbcat could do a video on P5's butchered localization, gets millions of views in days.
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>john hardin quits
>localization turned to shit
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>>172301686
Oh, yeah man. Totally.
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>>172301686
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>>172301734
Sarcasm doesn't help your case. The west is already skeptical of P5 because of its delusional love affair with P4. All it needs is one push over the edge to become the mockery of April like Mass Effect was for March.
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>>172301804
Man. It's not even funny.
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>>172301687
I wish this meme would stop. Hardin was PR, not localization.
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>>172301862
Pointless denial, and too late at that
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>>172301686
nah, the pronunciation is easy to show why it's bad in a sound-bite style format. something like nuance lost in translation will never catch on like that because it requires sitting down and reading an explanation to understand why its wrong

look at the me:a example, everything you need to know about the animation being bad you can see in a tiny gif
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why did they translate the mementos areas like that
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Haru finally snaps and murders Makoto!
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>>172301546
>>172301686
>>172301804
is this what autism looks like? I can't imagine the mental gymnastics you must be going through to arrive at any of these points. seriously, do something better with your time dude. try stepping a way from the internet and 4chan, literally nobody cares about as much as you think they do.

if not atleast go back to >>>/v/ and take the umaru PC port retard with you
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>>172302294
hey that's not fair to the umaru guy, he's just innocuous tounge-in-cheek shitposting
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>>172302448
umaru friend is one of this general's best posters desu
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Phantom is from Umaru City!
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>>172301950
No seriously. Of all the things to try and turn into a running joke or meme or whatever, this is one of the least funny.
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>Phantom decides to go back home at the end of the game
>Even though everyone else pretty much abandoned him the moment he got his record
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Alright, went over the entire Justice rank 1 scene. For the most part, the translation's actually decent for this part, past a small number of lines (~6-7) where the translation felt slightly off (but seemed to be mostly due to space constraints forcing them to leave small bits out or reword the line, so nothing too bad) and >>172300676.

It's once Goro talks to Joker off-stage that the translation becomes an issue, because all but one of his lines (which was just a "それじゃ…" originally anyway) are still written in the same polite/formal manner as his dialogue on stage when he's actually supposed to be speaking casually. The actual translations for those lines are largely fine meaning-wise, but Goro's manner of speaking is different enough that it makes him come across pretty different (again, he's supposed to be casual here, because he speaks casually around peers and saves the polite speech for TV appearances or around people like Shidou and Sae for the most part).

It's possible it's just a one-off thing as a result of an editor screwing up (he speaks politely during the TV show part of the scene, so it's possible someone made his dialogue throughout the entire scene polite in a misguided attempt at streamlining it), but if this particular issue continues in his other scenes, it's going to be a problem as it'll make his behavior in those scenes come across as much more fake when it's actually very close to how he speaks even when he's not putting up an act.

In other words, keep an eye out for his other scenes, I guess. Most of the other issues in the localization have been pretty minor, but this is the kind of mishandling that could actually hurt how western players receive certain parts of the game.
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>>172303682
thanks for checking it anon
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>>172303682
hmm, how much do you feel like it could impact the way people view his character? the shift from polite to less polite goro would be too jarring?

in the dub, he does kind of cross the line from amicable and soft-spoken to being stuffy, and i never really got that impression from him in japanese...
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>>172303682
Hmm, I'm not too bothered by the translation as it's weird to get too friendly with someone you only met like two times. Goro drops the polite talk with Joker because he's one year senior to Joker, and it would be rather weird for him to use desumasu with him. This does not get through quite as well with the English speaking audience.
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welp
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>>172304031
I don't think this is the appropriate context in which to say welp.
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>>172304031
I have no idea why Atlus likes using that so much.
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>>172303939
What impressions did you get in japanese?
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>>172303682
This is very autistic of you desu senpai
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Is that Krishna's dub VA as the tv show host?
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>>172304225
autism can be used for good
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>>172303939
In Japanese it's the tone and choice of words like pronouns that convey politeness, in addition to using polite speech. However, you can come across as being TOO polite into the zone of patronizing and haughty, or being angry with someone. Hence Goro uses casual speak with Joker because he's not supposed to treat Joker like a senior. It doesn't necessarily mean he isn't polite to Joker. This is why I'm not as bothered about him sounding formal in English.
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>>172304192
less archaic, i guess. more approachable. the speech pattern borders on dub yusuke at times.
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>>172303939
2bh I feel like he'd gonna come across as way more stuffy and pretentious than he actually is
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>muh personality
>muh impression
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>>172303939
>the shift from polite to less polite goro would be too jarring?
Assuming it's a permanent problem and not a one-off issue, yeah, that's pretty much it. If they translate all of his more casual scenes as formal as here, the jump from that to his real self later on is going to be a lot more jarring than it's supposed to be - by extension, it'll make his earlier scenes come off as much more fake than they're supposed to, and that in turn is going to make people think he was putting on an act even in scenes where he wasn't.

For what it's worth, he never came across as stuffy to me in the original either. A bit overly friendly, if anything, and that's on both his casual way of speaking and how quickly he starts opening up.

>>172304009
>>172304332
I don't think Goro's shift in speech is purely on him being Joker's senior. This is the same person who makes almost overly friendly jokes the second time they meet ("to think we'd use the same station; I really do feel a connection to you"), and he speaks in the same casual way when he's talking to Makoto (who's a fellow third year student) and the rest of the PT (once he joins them). It seems more like that's just how he talks to his peers, not something he does because of societal expectations.

A fair few of his lines that were occasionally casual sound more in line with what I would expect from Justine, Lavenza, Hifumi, or Yusuke in his fancier moments. If that continues in his other scenes, it's likely to be a problem.

>>172304225
Eh, I had the resources on hand to do a quick comparison. I'll check the pancake scene some other time, though from the snippets posted here so far, it looks like that one has the same problem.
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>>172304932
*originally, not occasionally.

I should probably get some sleep.
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If only I had my copy of P5 now, I can start streaming without trying to come across like a smartass and vomiting stupid insensitive commentary.
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>>172305081
Tbh I just want to watch a femanon stream it
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>>172304932
lel I remember when people were wondering how they'd handle the switch from boku to ore
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>>172305197
I am a femanon.
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>>172305197
I might do it if I can find a cheap capture card for the ps3
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>>172305304
I don't believe you
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>>172305304
Prove it
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>>172305081
>streaming without shitty jokes and constant memereactions
you're never gonna get the big eceleb bucks that way
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How were the anon comments written in Japanese? Were they on the level of "LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO" and "ROFL"?
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>femanon streams p5
>groans at every fanservice scene
>all male party
>only does male co-ops
>plays on safety
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>>172305340
>>172305350
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0cDz6sIAaXu
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>>172304632
yep, this is my fear, too. they should've tried to convey politeness through tone of voice or something and let him loosen up a little bit for certain scenes in terms of speech pattern and word choice. well, there's still a chance they might, like >>172304932 said. i guess we'll see how it goes.

not the end of the world, but it'll be kind of a bummer if the fact that his real self already comes through in casual conversations isn't established.
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>>172305483
hello
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>>172305445
wwwwwww
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>>172305535
>Goro is Shinji
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>>172305445
not quite on that level, but there were tons of very brief ones that were not taking things seriously
I think they've kinda overdone the whole "bad grammar and lower case" thing in english though
fortunately, the text messages are all actually written nicely here, while in #FE they went full on meme with all of them
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>>172305483
HOUSTON
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>>172305483
salut
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>>172305645
well he is the one with all the daddy issues
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>>172305197
Would you guys want to watch the dub for laughs or with Japanese audio?
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>>172305645
I know Goro is a Kaworu type for a lot of people but if you really think about it, the reverse is more true in terms of who has the shitty dad, the eventual mental breakdown, and desperately wants to experience real love and affection but also evades it on a personal level.
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>>172305769
I'd be using nip audio for my own playthrough so it'd be nice to hear the dub somehow i guess
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>>172305769
dub might be funny at first but i bet it would quickly get grating
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>>172305794
>Goro is a Kaworu type for a lot of people
man those people are dumb
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>>172305845
I'd like to believe it's just a joke and not them being serious about it
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>>172305794
Not just shitty dads in general, but specifically dads involved in conspiracies using their emotional baggage to manipulate them
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>>172305845
It's practically on the same level of deliberate misconstruing as calling him a lawfag at this point, yeah.
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>having XX chromosomes
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reminded me of some shitposters
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>>172305535
sauce?
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Will the PS3 version be shit compared to the PS4? I don't feel like getting a new console for one game
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>>172306015
>using emoticons
I hope Yuki banned him
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>>172306191
it has slightly longer load times
that's it
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>>172306191
its all the same assets, it's a ps3 game with a ps4 port basically
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>>172305929
would goro get in the robot that is actually his mom
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>>172306218
>>172306252
Nice, i'm getting it day one then
If I manage to sell my amp or a guitar for gas money
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>>172306383
damn just suck a dick on craigslist if you're really that hard up
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>>172306191
If you screen isn't big, you'll hardly notice the difference between the resolutions because of the pixels. As for the loading time, it's usually 6-8 seconds from what I've seen.
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>>172306383
>btw i am aspiring musician
worse than girls, fucking hate musicians. probably only started to get laid you faggot. hope someone beats you with your amp or guitar.
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>>172305929
The cognitive Goro thing is a Rei Ayanami level "fuck you i'm not a doll" showdown with Shido, too.
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they really should've toned down all those effin's
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>>172306294
If he managed to convince himself that it was all part of his plan and he definitely wasn't after Commander Shido's recognition
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>>172306580
is it really when it was what Shidou wanted anyway
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>>172306438
I'd rather not have money t b h
>>172306446
I have shit eyesight anyway
>>172306465
>aspiring musician
or maybe i just like to play gee tar because it is fun?
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>>172306690
I know Shido said it was convenient for him, and that still bothers me, but from Goro's end it still had a lot of meaning. As futile as it was. And in the end, he did stop Shido from killing the thieves after he was done with Goro.
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>>172306465
I failed music class: the post
stop being assblasted because you can't play with your fat fingers
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>>172306982
nice projection my man, you should go check >>>/fit/ and get yourself sorted
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>>172307056
t. can't play
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>>172308115
>natural born
>serving the world
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>Anne is sweaty!
>Anne is buxom!
>Anne is beautiful!
>Anne is wet!
>Anne is cute!
>Anne is flexible!
>Anne is an angel!
>Anne is lewd!
>Anne is sad!
>Anne is silly!
>Anne is for kisses!
>Anne is stylish!
>Anne is for sexual!
>Anne is awesome!
>Anne is sultry!
>Anne is pure!
>Anne is amused!
>Anne is quality!
>Anne is Lovers!
>Anne is canon!
>Anne is an apricot!
>Anne is an actress!
>Anne is a model!
>Anne is Santa Claus!
>Anne is Anne, not Ann!
>Anne is best girl!
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why is /pg/ so dead
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>>172300510
this is what I don't get

they'll have him say 'shit' but apparantely the word 'fuck' or 'fucking' is crossing the line and they make him say 'effin'?

Christ.
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>>172309620
Should have used "goddamn".
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Me on the bottom
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>>172305468
I'm unclear on what Safety actually offers. I assume it just gimps the enemies to hell?
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I want to forget about everything
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>>172311556
it puts a multiplier on exp, money, damage, etc.
and if you die, the game asks you if you'd like to revive your entire party with full health.
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is this the most literal vidya translation of all time
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holy shit we are a week from launch and this place has 29 IPs and is dead as fuck
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>>172313556
rather have dead /pg/ than /v/ /pg/
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>>172313556
we need more depression posting, that always livens the place up
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>>172313556
There's only about 25 or so regulars in /pg/ anyway, the average IP count is inflated.
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>>172312184
desu i like this
means the subtitles will match the jap audio better
the only people who suffer here are the dubfags that have to hear these stiff lines read outloud
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>>172313556
I'm just waiting for the PS3 rip so I can rip English lines.
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>>172314163
What for?
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>>172314163
post more ps3 screenshots
I've not seen really anything of this version of the game
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>>172294639
What the fuck is she wearing?
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>>172316114
I dunno but it's hot Tbh
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>>172297972
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>>172314779
It's the same game, just blurrier and probably more jagged.
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>>172316789
the question we all have to ask ourselves here is how he opened that door
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>still no new doujin

Dead
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>>172316920
is there even a latch on the door? it doesn't look like it from that angle
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>Bother to check the date.
>We're a week from release.
AAAAAAAAH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN
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>>172317237
>>172316920
Whats so special about a human opening a door?
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pg you better stop being dead right fucking now
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>>172318486
But I love death.
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>>172317785
get back in the bag, neko
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>>172318907
can we stop with "Ryuji is a cuck" the meme is getting borring
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>>172319163
nah
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>>172319163
there aren't any fresher memes to replace it, we're in a severe drought
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>>172319163
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>>172319405
even the pancake one
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Someone post the list of confirmed /pg/ names.
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>>172320198

John
Karel
Diego

Only ones I remember.
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>>172320198
There's a Daniel and an Annella too
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>>172320198
my name is Yukiko
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>>172320320
>>172320576
>tfw our tightknit community is going to be destroyed by P5's English release
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>>172320320

>John
Could be literally anywhere in the Anglosphere.
>Karel
That's an Eastern European variant of Karl, so probably Slovakia or the Czech Republic.
>Diego
Spanish or Mexican, I suppose.

We're surprisingly multicultural, right off the bat.
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>>172320701
The influx will pass and /pg/ will be comfortably dead before long
I hope
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>>172320830

I think Karel said he lived in Britain, but had some Czech heritage.

>>172320701

>implying people are going to swamp a chinese car site
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wew, the way the light reflects off the steelbook makes joker look like a fucking skeleton
I didn't think this thing could get any shittier
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>>172320701
it'll just be like the jp release but less frenetic, and that only upset the regular /pg/ flow for like two weeks at most.
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>>172320937
>>172320989
>>172321180
I can only hope, friends
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>>172321070
Uh oh! You have been visited by the bad-to-the-bone skeleton of smugness and ui design

Your rotten adult heart will be stolen and your localizations will be stilted & literal unless you post a YOSH in this thread
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>>172321336
/v/ having constant persona threads takes a lot of the pressure off /pg/, so im not too worried about the long run. might avoid it for a couple days right after release though
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actual ojousama heroine when
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>>172295119
More effort than they care to put in, since the localisation team don't seem to actually care at all.
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>>172321548
speaking of YOSH
what did they change it to?
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>>172321548
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>>172299584
>don't accuse us of not caring
>it's never as simple as just ticking a box or flipping a switch
I don't understand what he means. They already have the japanese audio so all they have to do is have an option that either loads the japanese audio or the english audio.
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>>172323065
it costs them precious money
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>>172322675
"Got it" or something like that iirc
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>>172323256
how lame
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>>172323256
acceptable i guess
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>>172323065
He's talking about VA's contracts. AtlusJP making them sign documents stating that their voices could be used worldwide would simplify everything though.
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>>172323256

Look I'm all for hating the dub but Yosh is not a fucking profound or even good Japanese word.
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>>172322675
"All right."
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>>172323520

Yeah and Japanese VA agencies don't like to let their actors do that, hense the issue.
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>>172323647
that's better than "got it"
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>>172323520
I'd like to think that the jap VAs knew the localisation would be shit so they deliberately didn't sign on to having their work distributed worldwide.
Unlikely that the VAs have such a choice but it would make me feel better
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>>172323762
that's laughable and very autistic my man
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>>172324064
That's the only reason I would accept for them not including dual audio honestly. If it's not a matter of the VAs consenting then it's just the localisation team being autistic for forcing their dub on people.
I am an autist though
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>>172324225
You are genuinely retarded.
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>>172324225
oh you weren't memeing, dude get a fucking clue do you think the lawyers writing up these contracts have the same autistic weaboo perspective you do

the viability of dual audio hinges on the specific legal wording regarding usage in the contracts between atlus and the actors' legal representation. its a matter of money, the more a company uses someone's work the more money it could potentially make, which means the more money they could negotiate for.
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Post your doujin ideas
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Alright guys, lets do it

http://www.springhole.net/writing_roleplaying_randomators/japanesenames.htm

Roll and the first name generated is the name you play Persona 5 with the first time
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>>172325570
does this name force me into the anne route?
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>>172325570
Could've been worse I guess
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>>172325469
futaba explores the world of bad dragon products
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>>172325892
>Sho
Someone post the old P5HERO conspiracy infographic
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>>172321979
Mitsuru you baka
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>>172323520
>>172323065
>>172324225
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Does the PS4 have any Persona 5 themes yet?

I just got a PS4 so I also am wondering what are some good exclusives. I have a PC so most games I just buy for my PC
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>>172326497
I'm not no effin faggot! I like women!
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>>172326497
holy kek they actually rewrote it
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>>172327365
No they didn't.
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>>172326497
>atlus usa in charge of LGBT pride
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>>172326443
>Does the PS4 have any Persona 5 themes yet?
Yes but because Atlus USA want to charge people for them, they have only made them temporarily free, and unfortunately you missed the windows for them. It's only been Ryuji and Yusuke though.
On release I expect they'll put all of the themes up for sale, which is one for every party member + one for Igor & the Twins. These will definitely be paid though.
If you have a Japanese account, they're available there too, but require either a Japanese credit card or a PSN voucher, which is beyond the amount of effort worth putting in for a theme that's inevitably coming to the west.
There is a free 20th Anniversary theme on the JP store though.
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>>172326497
Genuinely surprised they seem to have kept this in tact. I would've expected them to rewrite it to be significantly less garbage honestly, and for this one gag I wouldn't have minded one bit.
What's the rest of the scene like though?
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>>172328052
you leave Ryuji to get spitroasted by two fags
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>>172328146
I know how it plays out, I mean in terms of dialogue - how did they translate it?
Because I can't see them referring to themselves as "creatures" flying well in the west at all.
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>>172328228
I know nothing about the scene at all, actually
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>>172325261
>>172326286
So if I understand this correctly, the problem lies in the contracts not allowing for usage outwith Japan and the contracts are written up that way so the VAs don't need to be paid as much?
And in some cases it's not worth paying more to the VAs because enough people, I assume, will still buy a product that does not have dual audio?
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Hey femanon please post vocaroos
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>>172328746
pretty much the long & short of it
persona isn't really niche enough on the west for jp audio to be a dealbreaker for the majority of its audience, which is probably why they never bothered until recently. it'll be interesting what they do with it going forward
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Makoto's awakening voicing was better than what I was expecting.
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holy shit lmao they fucked kaneshiro's voice up so bad
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>>172329104
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1cCGLclkm37
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>>172329148
thought it was shit tbqhwyf
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>>172329104
>>172329337
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Reminder that Atlus is missing out on literally MILLIONS of dollars by ignoring PC/STEAM!
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>mikoetoe
this is the worst one yet
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>>172329769
post it
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>>172329610
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>>172329337
>>172329104
samedyke
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>>172329610
give up
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>>172330662
Never! The human masterrace didn't so the gamer masterrace won't either!
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>>172297160
Shitposters are a seriously retarded bunch

They won't even admit that they were wrong
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Doesn't the embargo lift today?
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>>172332035
Maybe if you show your boipucci IGN will post their review.
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>>172329391
I was expecting something fist of justice-tier and it wasn't that bad. Her voice is okay.
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http://www.siliconera.com/2017/03/28/persona-4-dancing-night-photo-kano-developer-dingo-appears-closed-doors/

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
PERSONA DANCING ALL NIGHT IS NO MORE
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>>172332537
I mean they're not really the DAN devs
They were dropped from the project midway
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>>172328228
As a naughty troll fampai.
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>>172332816
say goodbye to that 90+ metascore fellas
you can't go complaining that atlus usa put their own beliefs before their jobs to translate faithfully though tbqh
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>>172332816
what'd he say in japanese?
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>>172332948
>Gyahaha, I'm the creature of Shinjuku~!
I'm - gonna - eat - you!
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Mara statue is going up for pre-order in two days, only 450$
>>172332537
P-Team made P4D on their own, they kicked out Dingo fairly early and remade the entire game, it's why it was delayed.
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Guys I want a Just Dance with Persona characters
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>>172325469
Anon cums on Haru's forehead
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>Goro is ______!
>Goro is _______!
>Goro is ________!
>Goro is _________!
>Goro is ________!
>Goro is ______!
>Goro is ________!
>Goro is _______!
>Goro is _____!
>Goro is ________!
>Goro is _______!
>Goro is ____!
>Goro is ______!
>Goro is ________!
>Goro is _________!
>Goro is ________!
>Goro is _____!
>Goro is ________!
>Goro is ______!
>Goro is ________!
>Goro is ______!
>Goro is _____!
>Goro is _________!

Yes, that's right. Goro has no unique or redeeming qualities.
He is truly useless and was loved by noone even when his short, uneventful life ended.
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>Kamoshida's voice is decent but terribly casted
>Madarame's voice is pure garbage
>Kaneshiro's voice isn't remotely threatening and garbage
>Shido's voice isn't remotely threatening and garbage
well done
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>>172333443
how will they bring him back for P5A?
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>>172303682
Thanks for checking honestly
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>>172333443
>tfw his loud fangirl and Sae are probably the only ones who gave some shit about him after he disappeared
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>>172333910
>he thinks sae ever gave a shit about goro and wasn't pissed off every time she ran into him
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oh hey does joker have a super perona like Yu did?
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>>172304031
Yikes
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>>172333910
>two umbrellas
why is goro such a fucking retard
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>>172332914
Honestly, I am curious as to how the game will be received by the commentariat.
I figure it'll get some attacks for sexuality and some praise for feminist issues.
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>>172333985
Yeah, Satan
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>>172333985
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>>172334514
it's pretty cool
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>>172334619
unlike you
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>>172294365
>using a bunch of autistic fucks plus a qt for the OP

Never do this again. Never.
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>starting next week referring to Goro Akechi as "Goro" will be about as weird as referring to Tohru Adachi as "Tohru"
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>Makoto uses damn
>Ryuji is still stuck with effin's
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>>172336950
Good.
Akechi sounds better than Goro. I'm glad they went with it.
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>>172301804
Who the fuck cares. This isn't a popularity contest.
I just want to play the fucking game, not see it receive GOTY titles nor being praised.
You sound like a complete /v/tard.
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>>172337054
Take your happy pills, you effin' faglord
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Can someone post the P5 waifu roll chart?
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>>172337293
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>>172337257
Shut up, cuck.
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>>172337442
That is a violation of 4chan.org's rules. This is blue board and a safe space. You Drumpfkins need to follow the rules!
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Ryuji is for Ann!

Ann is for Ryuji!
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>>172337421
I want to jizz on Haru's forehead
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>>172338284
I want to squirt on her forehead
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I want to be happy.
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>>172338385
it's just piss
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>>172338536
Is it really? I thought it was like a pressurized buildup of vaginal lubrication juices women can squirt up
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>>172329148
Was this streamed, or are you playing your own copy?
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>>172338721
It's piss.
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>>172338721
It's at least 1/3rd piss

which is fine by me bby
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Ann has BDSM sessions with Sae!
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>>172339846
Who's Ann?
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>>172339931
Ann > Anne
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It only just occurred to me, but does P5 have subtitles at all times? Are we gonna have to just put up with mid-combat/dungeon lines having no subs?
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we don't know yet, no one has played with the sub until april 4th
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>>172339931
Annie's Ann
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>>172340537
mid combat yes but like no game company subs those
mid dungeon no
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>>172340537
Squid-chan's commentary has subs but character's calling out combat lines don't.

All dialogue in dungeons is subbed.
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>>172338803
Streamed. I watched it from Piero_Ochoa, just check around 2:17:00.
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I don't want to start another shitpost argument but why did they give Goro a slasher smile when shooting Joker if it was something he regret or didn't want to do?
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How do I let a guy know that I'm not interested in him as least traumatic as possible?

I'm really worried he's gonna like try to kill himself after I tell him.
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>>172341737
fuck off with the cuck roleplaying reeeeeeeee
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>>172341817
>cute
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>>172342118
???
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>>172341653

He says later on he was bursting with glee at the fact that he was nearly at the point where he could make his move on Shido, not because he was killing protag, which he just saw as the last thing he needed to do before that.

It's also part of the reason why he takes so long to catch on. He was too busy salivating in anticipating at being ready to ruin Shido, to want to double check his earlier steps.
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>>172341560
WASSUP
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>>172337968
Ann
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>>172341560
>niceee
>not niiiice

The 'e' is silent, Atlus USA.
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Amazon sending free copies of P5 to those who had their pre orders cancelled lmao

I wonder if it's just regular copies
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>>172342647
Is this the replacement for the hokuto no ken line?
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>>172343243
tbf I type it out like niceeee too
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I want to fuck the cat
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>>172342647
The translation doesn't seem wrong, but since it's a reference to Hokuto no Ken, they really should've left it as "Conqueror of Century's End"...
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>>172343481
dame, no fuk the neco
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>>172294639
Who the fuck is her? Any dub voice actor? Because I'm not american so I preffer japanese voices
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Mudo
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>>172344893
samarecarm
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>>172343528

HnK was never big in the west. They probably figured nobody would get it.
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Reviews tomorrow. Are you excited /pg/?
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quick question: how hard is the velvet room fight in P5 compared to Elizabeth and Margaretta ?
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>>172345262
It's going to review well no matter what, but I'm curious to see what they say about the localization (graphic changes, voice acting, translation). I doubt it'll affect the scores in any way, but I want to see if anyone even mentions it.
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>>172345623
It's western media

95% of the big names won't even bother to compare it
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AYO HOL THE EFF UP
>wassups internally
HOL UP D-BAG
>buys premium BLACKED.com account
SO YOU BE SAYIAN
>lets teacher fuck his crush
HOL UP N WORD
>looks at the hundreds of unused condoms in the drawer
SO YOU BE FREAKIN' SAYIAN
>watches cuckold porn
THAT
>Seen at 13:37 PM
WE
>buys a fake gun and pretends to shoot up Shujin Academy
WUZ SOME
>gets cucked by best friend
CUCCZ N SHIEEEET
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>>172345840
this isn't fair bros. why can't games journalists be as weeb as us?
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>>172345893
Okay but seriously, why did Ryuji have a fake gun just laying around?
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>>172345840
I'm not even talking about comparisons. I just want to know if anything stands out to them without any knowledge of Japanese.
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>>172345453

Not as BS as Elizabeth but at little more challenging than Margaret.

Though you can completely cheese it with the right Persona's
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>>172346789

He brought it with him to try to scare the shadows.
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>Joker I want you to take this gun an fuck Ann in front of me while pointing it at me

What did he mean by this?
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>>172347731
This cuck shit is lame. Get a better shtick like Umaru, Anne is for, or Sumaru City.
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>>172346980
He said in the air soft shop introduction that he bought a gun from approximately last week time, and that he's no casual. When is the air soft shop introduction again? If it's less than 5 days from the first entry inside of Kamoshida's palace, then there's a chance he probably bought it before all of it began.
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>>172348193
You are lame, cuck shit.
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>>172348193
Would you rather I spew Ryuji and Anne Shipping memes?
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everyones opinion
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in a few days people will start getting to futaba's dungeon.
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>>172348324
Kill yourself.
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>>172348465
Absolutely.
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>>172348517
>tofu marathoned P5 3 times within a week
>it takes westerners forever to even get to 4th dungeon
No wonder they like other Asian countries more.
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>>172347731
Ann?
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>>172348739
tofu using his overleveled personas so thats why he already compleated so many times
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>>172349034
Yeah, on NG+
West can't even finish the game once
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>>172348485
canon
makoto and sensei are top tier choices
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>>172348517
But some already have though. I watched Futaba's dungeon last night.
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>>172349942
where?
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>>172349797
WHERE IS THE FAN ART OF RYUJI AND ANZU IN MIDDLE SCHOOL WALKING HOME TOGETHER ALONG THE RIVERBANK! JAPAN PLEASE
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>>172349942
Where did you watch? The furthest ive seen is Makoto's dungeon.
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>>172350019
>>172350110
dangospango
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>>172350942
>skips before I can hear the spoken dialogue most of the time
reeeeee
>>
The only preview that matters
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Can dlc outfits in 5 be worn individually or does the entire group have to wear them? At least that's the impression I'm getting from the videos. That kind of sucks if true. Also all those black voids under Ann's skirts made me sad.
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>>172349797
STOP RUINING MY SHIP WITH YOUR FACTS ANON!
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>>172351169
If its not Jeff and Vinny it will suck. I can't stand Alex or Jason on anything Japanese or animeish.

Jeff was in NYC recently, so I hope they just recorded it then, he would have had a review copy then I would think
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>>172351605
CUTE desune
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>>172351576

No every character can wear their own seperate outfit.

The BGM change is based on what one the protag is wearing though.
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>>172351620
They've had a review copy for a while. It's just that they didn't want to bother doing anything with it, since Atlus USA's pre-release guidelines for videos were so strict.
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>>172351620
Jeff had his copy since February, so here's hoping.
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>>172351823
Ah I see, that's cool then. Thanks for the info.
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>>172351605
Ryuji has dyed hair, he's not actually blonde
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>>172352080
I'm pretty sure everyone knows that
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>>172350942


was it autism?
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>>172352080
You are fake news!
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>>172352512
>>172352616
Shouldn't he then have normal colored hair back in middle school?
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>>172352879
eh, Chie and Yosuke dye their hair too but people always draw their younger versions with the same color. Hell, people often draw shota Kanji blond instead of black even though we actually see his natural color in-game. I guess it's more so people would recognize them than anything.
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>>172350942
Her VA is good, I'd have just enjoyed her more if I hadn't listened to Aoi Yuuki previously. Especially because I can't get used to their different vocal ranges.
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>>172353143
Yeah, her acting is good, and I don't mind different takes on characters in general, but her voice doesn't fit, especially when she's supposed to sound higher than Makoto.
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>>172353094
I mean I don't think Persona 4: The Animation is considered canon anyways
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>>172353143
yeah but "I love you mom" sounds way cuter in Japanese. I think aoi delivered that scene way better than whoever the dub is. you could really feel the pain in her voice
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>>172353412
obviously
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>>172353326
she sounds like a fucking nerd, i think it's pretty fitting. i'd like her more had i not heard aoi yuuki's performance beforehand, though.
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>>172353620
>Naoto
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>>172353628
I agree, but I just mean that the voice is a little too resonate for someone who's supposed to be so scrawny. It's also the reason why she sounds mature than Makoto, even if her mannerisms aren't that way at all.
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>>172353859
stylized black, as always with blue
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>>172353908
I know, I was just being a shitter.
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>>172351169
>>172351620
Jeff's soul has been completely sucked away by fans that couldn't shut up about the ER, it's impossible for him to enjoy P5 to the fullest because of that. Not to mention he has flat out said before that he wanted P4-2 instead of P5. He's the textbook definition of the bandwagon fan that only cares about P4 that /pg/ hates.
>>
>>172354143
futaba a qt
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>>172354447
remember when he gave catherine a shit review because it wasn't persona 4-2
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>>172353908
Is silver usually used as a stylized hair color, too? I'm not that familiar with stylized hair colors.

>>172354447
>Not to mention he has flat out said before that he wanted P4-2 instead of P5.
I don't remember him saying that. I think it was more like he didn't expect any other Persona game to resonate with him the same way. But I don't think that's because he found P4 so beyond reproach; it's because he just happened to play it at the right place and right time.
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Why are they so perfect together?
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>>172354447
>The awful Persona 4 fanbase turned a Persona 4 fan into a different variety of awful.
P4 is a blight on the genre
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>>172354895
WOAAH HERE SHE COMES
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>>172354859
blonde I guess? I remember someone on /a/ making a chart that tried to match all animu hair colors with real-life colors and it fell under that together with white and yellow, while pinks and reds fell under brown and blue and green under black.
Anyway, Soejima did said "relatively natural hair colors that you would expect to see regularly in real life", silver hair is something you see in real life fairly often. On old people, but still.
>>
>>172354859
Persona 5 isn't going to resonate with him because the person he played through the entirety of Persona 4 is on the other side of the continent and his best friend that made fun quips and stories in the middle of the game is dead. If Jeff is reviewing Persona 5 his bias is going to be apparent, it's a constant reminder of when his life was better.
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>>172355169
I want to pinch Anne's chubby cheeks!
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>>172355169
MY EFFIN DICK!
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>>172355284
>the person he played through the entirety of Persona 4 is on the other side of the continent and his best friend that made fun quips and stories in the middle of the game is dead
yeah, when you put it that way there is no chances it won't end with a catastrophe
>>
>>172355169
>>172354895
>can see her ass meat from the front

Also Akira is so pale it looks like he's about to burst into flames from being under direct sunlight
>>
>>172355668
>Akira
Stop
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>>172355626
>catastrophe
ruin
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>>172355919
catastrophe ja nai!
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>>172355919
cat-a-stro-phe
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>>172355709
Makoto
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>>172356287
Yuki
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>>172355668
>Akira
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>>172356353
Senpai
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>>172356447
I like how every game has a low tier waifufag filter
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>>172356450
Souji
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>>172356857
Naoya
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stop shitposting
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>>172356975
What a qt. God Anne's such a bitch.
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>>172356975
ha ha no dick kamoshida
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>>172356975
where's his dick
is this why he couldn't get any and had to rape a highschooler?
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>>172357042
fuck off kamoshida
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>>172357152
>>172357154
he tucks it in his butt
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>>172356975
My Man!
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>>172357616
Goro has swamp ass!
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>>172357275
feel like this character was actually meant to be Anne's Shadow but they scrapped it and replaced it with the Cognitive concept at the last minute
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>>172357821
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>>172357821
>Rise 2.0
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>>172357616
Sweaty anal with Goro!
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Some people were wondering how they'd handle stuff like this
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>>172358195
[In English] in English!
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>>172358195
It's [IN ENGLISH!]
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>>172358195
How do they tackle the "OKAY OKAY I AM JAPANESE" scene?
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>>172358195
This is about Medjed's messages, by the way, they didn't force an [IN ENGLISH].
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ONII-CHAN PLEASE PORT PERSONA 5 TO PC
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>>172358491
The streamer hasn't gotten that far, I'm just posting shit.
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>>172358842
You can buy a PS3 for like $30, rent P5, then sell the PS3 for what you paid for it.
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Seriously, how did Meguro drop the ball so hard?
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can't wait for dual audio to be confirmed to only be battle voices tbqh
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>>172359407
Want it just for the shitstorm. Even the normalfags that don't care can tell the dub is awful.
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>http://www.themysticdistance.com/persona-5-review/
do you agree, /pg/?
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>Atlus finally decides to pay attention to the west and looks for feedback
>everybody hates the butchered, barely recognizable version of P5
>Atlus goes back to making all their games P4 again
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>>172359403
maybe I am not qualified to speak on this, since I don't have any nostalgia for p3 and p4, but I always found the soundtracks of them incredibly unremarkable. I only genuinely thought the music in p3 wasn't garbage for the final months, and for p4 I thought it was pretty damn garbage the whole way through.
p5 having an inoffensive soundtrack was already a step up, and meguro deciding not to do "unconventional" shit like p3 and p4 and just making groovy shit was far more up my alley
but I know nothing
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>>172358195
I'm guessing they'll just assume the players are smart enough to guess the context of the Hawaii scene like with this scene here. That is the best outcome for me.
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>>172359654
>Nier Automata is better
god we are so fucked
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>>172359805
>But I know nothing
Can't tell if you're being passive-aggressive or self-effacing.
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>>172359654
>Persona 5 features a special forum of which you can see at the start of each day. It allows you to take a look at random forum posts that appear similar to 2ch and 4chan.

WE DID IT REDDIT!
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>>172360106
both honestly
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>>172360038
Nier Automata is the greatest game ever created
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>>172359654
no score out of 10 so it won't affect the metacritic, shit review
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>>172360565
Metacritic is going to be in the high 80s, below P4G, P4, and P3P
Nier will be higher even with its 5/10 sabotage score
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>>172358942
That's way too formal-sounding. The translation here is more or less fine, but the tone is way too polite/formal compared to the original line (which, yet again, is pretty casual). I guess this really is going to be a consistent problem with how Atlus USA is handling his dialogue pre-reveal. Great.

I'm guessing the rest of his dialogue in that scene was similar? In the JP version, he only briefly lapses into polite speech when he's introducing himself to Yusuke and two lines where he explains that he's been added to the PT investigation team and asks if the group's seen Medjed's declaration of war toward the PT, for the rest of the scene he speaks fairly casually. If he's polite throughout the whole scene again, someone on the localization team is definitely mishandling his dialogue.
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Nier Automata is another groundbreaking, mindbending experience from Yoko Taro with good gameplay now, and Persona 5 is just going through the motions for the third time, and you honestly expect the latter to score higher?
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>>172361289
>I'm guessing the rest of his dialogue in that scene was similar?
Yeah, pretty much. If you wanna check it out, twitch tv / videos / 131461542 @ like 2 hr 38 mins in.
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>>172360038
the review says nothing about nier being better
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>Atlus dropped Dingo
>1 game latter they go bankrupt

Why is this allowed?

http://gematsu.com/2017/03/photo-kano-developer-dingo-rumored-gone-bankrupt
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>>172361609
Forgot image
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>>172361289
>someone on the localization team is definitely mishandling his dialogue.
Yes. Someone.
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>>172361807
maybe it's because i'm used to the imgur translations but compared to that i don't really like the way he speaks in the official translation
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>>172362063
he sounds more pretentious imo
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>>172362063
even ignoring the translation aspect, the english is just stiffer and doesn't flow as well (typical atlus usa)
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>>172362063
he talks like a god damn grandpa
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>>172362063
the imgur translation was done by a male
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>>172361609
That's what I feared. Thanks for the link, I'll see if I can do a proper comparison again soon, I just need to get a few things done for the day first.

>>172361807
>その冷静さは僕には無いよ。でも、僕の推理も面白かったろ?
>I don't have that kind of composure. But my reasoning is interesting too, right?

Atlus USA, stop that.
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>>172362450
(you)
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>>172362450
:^)
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>>172362450
what would you do if they turned out not to be
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>>172362450
weren't most of them Goro's and Yusuke's scenes? it was most likely done by a fujo
the difference is that the fujo did it out of passion while whoever translated P5 probably had no interest in analyzing the scenes or anything
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>>172362643
i know they aren't because they did a competent job
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>Atlus USA will get away with it
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>>172362496
nigga do you have photos of every line in the game or something
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>>172362791
The longer /pg/ just sits here moping about it instead of actually waking up, getting up, and getting out there and informing the world about how much of a disaster this is, the more they're going to get away with
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>>172362791
>an 85 metascore is 'getting away with it'
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>>172362689
They were watching streams and just did the ones that were most requested back then, like Yusuke and Yuki. Goro also got more because he's past of the main story, probably.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTXGS3cf9Ow

Looking good so far

I'm pretty sure that by the summer we will already have it running at 4k/60fps

Future sure is bright for us PC gamers
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>>172363004
it took them months to get to the goro stuff so probably not a fujo
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If you've never had a hemorrhoid, consider yourself lucky, because these things--even the little guys--can itch like you wouldn't believe. I woke up randomly in the middle of the night with such an itch happening; fortunately, this is why they make Preparation H, which actually works extremely well. I stumbled into my bathroom which ordinarily has a nightlight turned on, but the bulb burned out a couple of days ago and I haven't had a chance to get a replacement yet. Not wanting to blind myself, I fumbled around for the tube of ointment in the dark, but it wasn't in the spot I typically leave it--then I remembered that it was in my travel toiletries bag from a recent overnight trip. I keep that under the sink. Still averse to turning on the overhead lights, I opted instead to fumble around in the dark and find the tube by feel. It only took a moment, but the second I applied it to the "affected area" I realized something was very wrong--the consistency wasn't correct, and there was a powerful wintergreen smell. Lights be damned--I threw them on and realized that yes, indeed, I had actually grabbed the little tube of toothpaste from my bag... and let me tell you, I immediately understood why "the ring of fire" is an anal-relevant phrase. Following a liberal wad of toilet paper and some self-cursing, I did manage to find and apply the correct substance and get back to bed. I wouldn't encourage anyone to repeat this; while having a minty-fresh anus might sound appealing, it is not, in fact, a good thing.
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>>172363024
Bad news Umaru, it's a bad game!
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>>172363146
>months
What? It took them a week or two at best. I remember seeing the translation up pretty soon after tofudan finished his boss fights.
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>>172362496
maybe someone switched my autism switch on, but atluses translation seem to convey the same thing yours does
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>>172363268
didn't they also gush about how much they liked yusuke or am i mixing them up with someone else posting translations
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>>172363159
>turn the light on in the room that leads to bathroom
>don't close doors
problem averted
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>>172363432
yeah you're thinking of the right person.
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>>172363432
yusuke is imgur anon's guy waifu!
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>>172362450
>>>/b/
>>>/r9k/
>>>/pol/

seriously you're getting annoying
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>>172363402
the tone is different
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>>172363392
>Persona 4 is still king
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>>172363402
he sounds way more stuffy in the localization
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>>172362831
Not every line, but a decent amount of the text starting from June. I was planning on looking into that rumor regarding some lines changing on a NG+ run (though I think that's been debunked by now already), so I ended up grabbing a lot of lines for easier comparison since going purely off of memory for a 80-100h game isn't all that reliable.

>>172362063
p5anon's translations have some minor issues here and there too, but they handled his speech mannerisms a lot better, yeah. Atlus USA's version of how he talks sounds like he's permanently speaking really politely/formally, when he's actually using casual speech most of the time (except for his TV show appearances or when around people like Sae and Shidou, except for a very small number of lines).

>>172362301
>>172362389
The way he talks in the localization sounds like the type of speech I'd expect in business letters. That's definitely not how he should sound in these scenes.

>>172363402
I guess that's kind of the problem. Meaning-wise, the translations are fine. The issue's HOW he talks - he's supposed to use casual, friendly speech when talking to the PT (except for the lines I specified, in this scene), but the localization has him speak in a much more formal way. The meaning stays intact, but the change in tone makes him come across as differently in a way that's guaranteed to be an issue down the line.
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>>172363624
>>172363708
>>172363774

I don't see it, maybe in other lines but not this one

I guess that someone really did flip my autism switch on
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>>172363392
genuinely starting to wonder if P5 actually is better than P4. everybody outside of here seems to think otherwise and this place is a tiny echo chamber
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>>172363925
she thinks yosuke is a great character
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>>172363925
>everybody outside of here seems to think otherwise and this place is a tiny echo chamber

About 10% of the general actually played the game. We don't know jack shit.
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>>172364026
that's exactly my point, barely anybody here played the game but still parrot it being better than P5.
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>>172363774
i love pictures of goro drinking coffee at leblanc
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>>172363870
its not the most egregious example tobe fair
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>>172363925
She said Junpei was shit and Yosuke was amazing. I'd rather believe the Mystic guy.
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>>172363925
>everybody outside of here seems to think otherwise

who is everybody?
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>>172364078
better than P4*, fuck
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>>172364218
dantis and that yosukefag chick
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>>172363392
I can't look at that profile picture without legitimately getting sick to my stomach
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>>172364218
people on /v/
twitter
neogaf
tumblr
yeah they're all shit communities but so is this.
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Sonyggers will be BTFO next year when P5 gets an official PC/STEAM port. It'll run 60 fps because PC is simply the superior platform. The PS4 Pro is weaker than an RX 470, for you plebs that's a $150 GPU. Absolutely pathetic. I can't wait to max out my 1080 ti with this beautiful game.
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>>172364380
>swallowed the red pill
welcome
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>>172361998
Brad Shoemaker?
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>>172364078
eh, gameplay and graphics are definitely better
so far the translation seems worse than P4's which might hurt the overall narrative but ideas and scenarios P5 explores are interesting enough to carry it even through something like that
either way we still judge all games based on their butchered versions with incredibly shallow knowledge of the culture and society so who actually gives a shit
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>>172364420
i'll be your firend even if you are insane
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Did the girls get their dialogue fucked up or did only Ryuji, Yusuke and Goro receive that honor
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>>172364161

You don't have friends
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>>172364537
Not every localization is bad, there is a world outside of Atlus USA.
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>>172364420
Playing console games with Umaru-chan!
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>>172363925
a lotta people have mad nostalgia goggles when it comes to 4, just them preferring it doesn't mean anything if they can't actually articulate why
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>>172364161
desu after reading his tweets before P5 was released I'm having a hard time taking anything he says seriously. He's such a bitch ass faggot.
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>>172364904
>better characters
>better atmosphere
>better music
>better story
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>>172364729
They definitely deviated from scrip some times with OOC shit like A2 saying "Peachy" stand out so much.
They also fucked up and didn't sub that part where your delete Pascal's memories and that pissed me off.
Still miles better than what I've seen of P5, though.
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>>172364537
man, there's a huge problem with reviewing a new installment of a game through the lens of one you played like 8 years ago. you know, on top of an anime and spin-offs games, culminating in this nostalgic and romantic feeling toward p4. especially when people say the characters are better? no, you've just had a lot more time to get familiar with them.
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>>172364956
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>>172364830
Playing PC games with Umaru-chan!
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>>172364956
yeah, articulate
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>>172364904
it tackled important issues like being trans* and has a strong, confident gay character that needs all the men he can take while P5 outright ridicules said groups
0/10, would not play past first dungeon
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>>172365051
>especially when people say the characters are better? no, you've just had a lot more time to get familiar with them.
maybe you only prefer P5 because you like being contrarian and can't look at things more objectively
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>>172364569
Haven't seen enough of the localization to give a final verdict yet, but so far Goro's the only one with a serious issue in the localization (he's too formal). Ryuji's dialogue sounds like they had trouble getting his voice across, and things like "effing" and "d-bag" are odd choices, but overall he doesn't come across as too different. Yusuke has a few wonky lines (which was expected; some of his dialogue is hard to translate, like the poem during his awakening), but so far doesn't seem too bad. Anne's and Morgana's dialogue has been more or less fine for the most part, outside of a few lines that could've been worded better or suffered from the omnipresent stiff translation issue.

Haven't seen Makoto's, Futaba's and Haru's dialogue yet, so I can't comment on them yet.
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>>172365146
this triggers me because i just know someone's going to try and go for that angle. for a game that outright mocks gay people in several scenes, it's still not as bad as p4 about it.
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>>172365146
teddie's transgenderism was treated as a joke and nobody even knew yosuke was gay till way after the game came out
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>>172365427
yosuke's homophobic comments are him hiding his own lust for yu's ass
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>>172365371
Yosuke literally only pokes fun at Kanji in a few scenes in the entire game and Chie outright tells him to stop at one point
Tumblr has brainwashed people into thinking Yosuke screams "FUCKING IRONIC YOUR ELEMENT IS ELECTRICITY HUH KANJI ZAP ZAP YOU FUCKING FAGGOT" in every single scene
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>>172365463
Persona 4 is just gay
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>>172365285
nice b8 m8
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>>172364830
>>172365086
Nail gunning Umaru!
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>>172365505
>ZAP ZAP YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
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>>172363392
>Dantis already in the replies
kek
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>>172365505
>reading it yosukes voice
kek
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>>172365463
>teddie lives in his closet in arena
deepest symbolism
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>Some people still think Kanji is gay
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>>172365505
yosuke's comments about kanji are so much more insidious and happen when kanji isn't even doing anything to be threatening. hell, even after kanji's befriended them, he keeps at it. homophobia is a constant undercurrent with yosuke's character. it's SPECIFICALLY about kanji being gay. in persona 5, ryuji just runs away because they're harassing him.

then there's kanji's entire dungeon, too. while kanji's arc is about how it's okay to like girly things and how it doesn't make him any less of a man (a good sentiment) it's still at the expense of homophobic shit, like the usual portrayal of gay men as predatory and creepy.
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>>172365934
are you retarded or can you genuinely not tell that that post was a joke
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>>172365505
Yosuke "like the cock get the shock" Hanamura
Yosuke "Electric Feel" Hanamura
Yosuke "one million volts" Hanamura
Yosuke "AC/DC for LGBT" Hanamura
Yosuke "There's a Gay Over There, Give Him the Chair" Hanamura
Yosuke "Suck the cock, get the glock" Hanamura
Yosuke "Deus Volt" Hanamura
Yosuke "By the power of Thor, faggot no more" Hanamura
Yosuke "faggot zapper" Hanamura

such a shame his element is actually wind
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>>172365948
I'm almost certain Yosuke was just dicking about with his gay jokes.
>>172366028
I'm not referring to any post. I was just reminded that I find a lot of people who talk about P4 think Kanji is actually gay and it's really triggering.
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>>172365505
The irony is Yosuke is the gay one
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>>172365948
>one of the biggest comic relief characters cracks a couple jokes about Kanji being gay, when this comic relief character also makes jokes about every other character in the game because that's what he does, and him being an insecure homo is one of the most popular/supported theories about the game
meanwhile
>like the usual portrayal of gay men as predatory and creepy.
P5 literally does this with real people, not shadows
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>>172366145
dude was being an asshole
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>>172366145
there's nothing that points toward him just dicking about with his gay jokes.

to clarify, though, i know kanji isn't actually gay. it's more about yosuke's own perception of kanji.
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oh look some very insightful opinions of dantis's
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>>172366391
why does he have a P5 avatar if he hates it so much
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>>172365948
>the accurate portrayal of gay men as predatory and creepy.
fixed
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>>172366391
This is the same fag that doesn't know Japanese, right?
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>>172366535
correct
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>>172366535
yep
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>>172366391
>every problem in the fucking game being solved with magic powers
yeah like how people just ordinarily confront a physical manifestation of their repressed thoughts and feelings and are able to solve these deeply rooted problems that have been around for years by talking to themselves for 30 seconds
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>>172366391
>there's no self realization
>Goro is meme bait
>Ryuji is trash
>Morgana, who is garbage
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>>172366302
him being an "insecure homo" is just that. a fan theory. doesn't add anything to this discussion.

i'm not saying what they did was okay in p5. i'm just saying in p5, there weren't as many instances of it because there were no gender/sexuality related arcs in the game. this is why i'm also wary about the idea of current atlus team ever trying to handle an actual gay character.
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>>172366391
>there's no self realization
what is ryuji, anne, yusuke, makoto, futaba, haru, and goro for 500
>goro is memebait
wew
>ryuji is trash, and like kanji, yosuke and junpei combined
WEW
>yusuke's great tho
ded

so this.. is the power... of eop p4fags
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>>172366309
Oh I know you know
But a loooot of people don't, somehow.
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>>172366391
>calls Morgana garbage
>probably likes Teddie
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>172366557
>>172366568
Then may I ask why is he making such statements unironically unlike people here who do so to shitpost? What's his gain?
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>>172365948
>hell, even after kanji's befriended them, he keeps at it
when does he do it before they befriended him?
>constant
night of the field trip where he dropped the subject the moment he saw Kanji is freaking out, Teddie's first day in human world where he asked a single question
were there any other situations?
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>>172366836
he's in his own world
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>>172366391
>the only character a P4fag likes is someone that brings frequent and consistent comedic relief
wew
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>>172366391
damn this bitch is salty
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>>172366836
attention
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>>172366836
Ego
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>>172365934
Kanji is gay and Naoto wants to be the little boy and is flat.
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>>172366635
>jokes aren't okay anymore

it does hold weight though since there's audio out there of him confessing to Yu, they had at some point considered a homosexual route, and it was with yosuke a normal guy, and not some faggy caricature like shadow Kanji.
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>>172366896
that image became funnier when i found out a nip drew it
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>>172366535
yes
just think about that when he says there is "no self realization". this guy knows zero japanese, he had to ask for help for every single puzzle in the game and completely misinterpreted virtually everything with goro's backstory.
he says there is no self-realization because he didn't see a scene where a character faced a clone of them with yellow eyes and talked in a somber tone, that's the only way he'd be able to tell what's going on
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>>172366986
>jokes aren't okay anymore

The discussion is Atlus' homophobic jokes. If you condone them when it's Yosuke, why are you even arguing they're bad in Persona 5?
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>>172367203
which is funny since futaba exists
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>>172367203
>he didn't see a scene where a character faced a clone of them with yellow eyes and talked in a somber tone
shadow futaba
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>>172367248
>>172367284
true, and notice how he didn't complain about futaba
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why do you guys keep bringing up this faggot dantis
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>Dantis triggering /pg/
Loving it
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>>172367354
memes
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Yosuke is my waifu.
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>>172367230
i'm not, i'm commenting on the other anon's dislike of it, though I recognize that was unclear
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>>172367421
Sogabe's artstyle is so cute, it's a shame the guy can't write for shit
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>>172366391
>Morgana is garbage
holy shit
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>>172367354
/pg/ is panicking because he's not blinded by hype or convincing himself that he has to hate P4 to fit in, and he's speaking bluntly and honestly about P5.
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>>172367451
>comparing homosexuals to christmas cakes
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>>172367660
t. dantis
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>>172366391
>Morgana is trash
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>And no Dantis, this is not an opportunity for you to say, "I told you so,"
Also, no, Dantis, this isn't where you stick your opinion in and try to preemptively ruin something for someone else.
kek even neogaf hates him
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I like Makoto's English voice a lot
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>あんな連中のファンなんて、やめたほうがいいと思うけどな?
>"Don't you think it'd be better to stop being fans of a group like that?"

No comment.

>>172367451
>You can literally walk in a Gay Bar (even the OST of the place is called it)

It's an okama bar (hosted by an okama, not a gathering place for them), and the BGM for that place is just titled BAR にゅーカマ/Newkama on the OST. Were they going by that early game rip that mistranslated オカマバー as "gay bar" instead of "okama bar" somehow?
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>>172367893
It's going to score worse than P4 and P4G and P3P and you're all going to be sitting here screaming and shitposting and Dantis's avatar is going to get spammed.
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>>172367894
I dislike Makoto's English voice a lot
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>>172368037
Do you really or do you think disagreeing makes you sound smart
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>>172367968
or just willfully misunderstanding the cultural gap between an okama bar and a drag place in the castro or something
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games media follow narratives
nier already scooped up the "little niche japanese game that could" of the season
no reason for them to inflate P5's scores
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>>172368110
I really do think that it's bad
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I'm not gay but I'd fuck Yusuke and marry him and adopt a chinese baby with him.
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>Reviews tomorrow
This general is gonna crash and burn
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>>172363392
>dantis asks what she meant
>she intentionally dodges the question
what did they mean by this
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>>172368285
>I'm not gay
anon is autisticfoxsexual.
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>>172368551
COOL VIBRATIONS
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>>172368551
87
Yes, it's only going to score better than vanilla P3.
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>>172366391
I have the same complaint.
The Persona games feel like they are trying to be deep in some way but when you look at all the symbolism, religion references, and all the jungian psychology thing, they don't make too much sense in the game's universe.

It's like how Hideki Anno shoves religious symbolism into Evangelion and pretended there was a meaning within the story, while there is none or is a mess.
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>>172368650
>wasn't even a hard question or something that could fire her over
lol?
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>>172362496
when is AtlusUSA gonna hire you anon? they were probably working against the clock and something as subtle as polite v casual mannerism was lost on them.
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>>172368252
An improvement over Rina "nails on a chalkboard" Sato
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>>172368285
i want to meet up with shinya at the arcade and molest him while he tries to play shoot em ups like j wong and that little girl
in a straight way
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>>172368650
>his art
Is he another one of Soejima's copycats?
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>>172368767
anno never pretended the religious symbolism meant anything, he said he added it because it sounded cool
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>>172368818
They have no money to hire anon, he's too competent. I really appreciate all his efforts in clearing things up for us
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>>172368890
(you)
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>>172368903
If he's the one I'm thinking of, he imitates Soejima's style pretty badly, and only ever draws Naoto or Makoto

That one anon was right about Makotofags being Naotofags 2.0
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>>172368818
Atlus USA only hires proud and competent womyn to do their translations now
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>>172368767
>Core events being really dumb
Every time he talks like he knows what was happening in the scene my blood boils. I detest stupid people like this
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>>172366391
I hate this fanbase more than I hate Persona 4 itself.
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>>172369275
Must be hard living with yourself.
>Drops mic
>360 walks off the stage
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>>172369239
50% of his art (this is not an exaggeration, even if he's drawing protagonist group shots he includes Naoto) is of Naoto in sexualized outfits while he complains about how the games need to get more mature and serious and fervently denies that he is part of the waifu culture
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>>172369375
Damn anon you roasted me
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It's time to rank the palaces based solely on their theme songs.

If your ranks don't have the museum and lunar base dead last and casino near the top, it is wrong.
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>>172369193
>i don't understand japanese but i know for a fact it's inherently better

There's a good goddamn reason she's never been a main character for anything of note before despite being in the industry for 15 years
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>>172365370
>stiff translation issue
I wonder if their intention was that they wanted the translation to match up with the Japanese better? When I played 3 and 4 undubbed it was a little awkward sometimes when the English and Japanese very obviously didn't match, but that's just the tradeoff you have to make to get the original performances but also get natural sounding English.
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>>172369483
What is Railgun.
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>>172369479
Cruise > Pyramid > Bank > Bottom of Mementos > Casino > Castle > Lunar Base > Art Gallery
desu the art gallery and lunar base still have great music even if the rest of the dungeon music is better
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>>172368767
I don't really think they tried to be deep, at least before P5.
P3's obsession with death was borderline ridiculous, to the point I doubt P-Team couldn't see that while P4's references to shintosim were just surface stuff you could've find out about by just looking up the names on wikipedia (except for maybe Ameno and Kunino since they're really low in shinto hierarchy, pretty much "literally who" tier and I still think it would've been better if they just translated their names to English) and it's entire message was basically "holy shit you are a blind retard how about you take a moment to look how much you are fucking up"
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>>172369387
>even if he's drawing protagonist group shots he includes Naoto
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>>172369762
Some shitty show that was inexplicably popular despite the quality for about a year.
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>>172369387
wait, that's him? holy shit I had no idea
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>>172369075
it isn't even related to the visual language of the series at all, its just there to add flavor (much like persona tbqh)
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>>172369483
Great argument. I'm afraid I do speak Japanese, and she is miles better.
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>>172369479
Casino > Cruise > Bank > Castle > Art Gallery > Pyramid > Mementos > Moon Base
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>>172369865
maybe that's how he draws MC
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>>172369969
So you're some mega weeb who probably signed up for the JET program who gives a fuck about your opinion
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>>172369865
that art is kinda trash
other than yu, everyone looks awful
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>>172369865
>mfw i thought that was a shittily drawn piercy at first
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>>172370105
Yu has a lazy eye and a dilated pupil
that arm looks wonky too
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>>172370104
Holy kek someone sure is mad I called their dub shit
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>worst dungeon
>worst dungeon theme
>worst dungeon boss
>Her dad literally did nothing wrong yet is the only Palace owner to die in the game

Haru didn't deserve this
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>>172369865
Where the fuck is Speedy?
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>>172370104
>gets destroyed
>"y-y-y-y-y-y-yeah well your opinion doesn't matter!"
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>>172370310
wwwwwwwwwwwwww
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>>172370306
>you're right so you're mad
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>>172370310
>fanbase denies the only lover she ever has
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>>172370310
>when you get her out of the velvet jail she says she was almost glad when she thought she would die because then she could apologize to her father in heaven

haru....had a hard life...
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>my_great_capture anon shitopsting again
what a surprise
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This shitposting is just a taste of what's to come when the game is released.
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>>172370310
Her dad did many wrong things.., Anyway, I feel sorry for her. Haru is cute and I really like her, but I can't help but prefer the others over her because she joins so late.
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>>172370614
just imagine someone was dumping fanart in between the shitposts and you can get the full experience
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>>172370310
>worst dungeon
Eh, that belongs to Mementos. Her dungeon's not bad by any means, and in terms of visuals it's possibly the best one of the lot.
>worst dungeon theme
No, that also belongs to Mementos. Her dungeon theme isn't bad anyway, even if it's not as good as the rest.
>worst dungeon boss
No, that's Kaneshiro. Okumura was great.

She also has the best thief outfit and a cute as fuck voice.
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>>172370551
I only just got home what the fuck did I apparently do now
>>
>>172369865
I lost interest in Naoto after realizing I'd never bust a nut inside shadow Naoto's ftm pussy
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>>172370740
you will never bust a nut into any pussy
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>>172370518
Haru contemplating suicide!
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>>172370813
I know, I hate how your mom wont let me go in raw
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>>172368650
>Dantis is that shitty Soejima copycat who draws Naoto all the time
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>僕らが手を組んだら、いいコンビになりそう。…なんてね、ははは。
>"If we joined forces, we'd be a great duo. ...Just kidding, hahaha."

Translation's fine even tonally for once here, but that なんてね to try to handwave his comment as a joke went missing somehow.

>>172368818
I don't think Atlus USA hires out of country, unfortunately.

As far as the polite vs. casual mannerisms thing goes, it's actually not too difficult to pick out here. When Goro speaks politely in the TV shows for example, he usually ends his sentences with variants of ~ます/~です and uses politer versions of phrases that mean the same thing (すみません over ごめん for apologizing, for example). When he's speaking casually, he tends to either not use specific sentence endings or sticks to variants of ~(だ)よ(ね), ~だろう, ~だな and the like, along with using less formal phrases when those are available (like ごめん over すみません as an apology). It's pretty easy to recognize, and not especially hard to keep in translation as long as you have practice with writing formal speech that's distinct enough to differentiate from casual speech (which the translators involved here actually seem to be, since characters like Ryuji who sound consistently casual still do).

The bigger issue is differentiating between casual but friendly speech, and casual but rough speech (let's say, how Goro talks toward the PT in early scenes versus how he talks during his breakdown after the first boss fight), especially if you don't want to depend on excessive swearing, because the difference between those speech mannerisms isn't as distinct in English. I suspect that's why they're handling Goro the way they are so far (to make how he talks pre-reveal more distinct from post-reveal), but that's actually a problem in this case since outside of when he's angry, his actual speech mannerisms don't change much at all beyond the 僕/俺 shift.
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>>172371252
please explain yusukes awakening to me
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>>172371252
maybe they thought that joking but not joking tone would make more sense being carried by intonation in english? to play devil's advocate of sorts
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>>172371523
なんてね is nante ne so they'd just have to add "just kidding" or something
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>>172371619
That Japanese "just kidding" thing doesn't translate well at all if they're trying to come off as natural. At least I've never seen a good example of it.
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>>172371835
So just put a TL's note along with the line
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Is this the canon pairing in Persona 5?
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>>172371835
Things not translating well is the least of Atlus USA's concerns looking at some of the writing on display here. But the line leaves a pretty different impression in English to in Japanese without the disclaimer at the end.
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>>172371938
>TL's note in a game
no
>>172371835
i think >>172371252 wrote the line pretty well and it doesn't come off as unnatural to me, but, to each their own i guess
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>>172371953
Sluts!
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>>172371938
[IN JAPANESE] just joking
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>>172371953
Wrong.jpg
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>>172371938
That doesn't solve the problem

"...just kidding!" or a pause and laughter works fine enough

It's kind of a cultural issue too. If someone said "just kidding" at the end of a sentence in the US at least it'd be questionable if they were kidding or not regardless of their tone.

It comes off as someone who is trying to talk to people they don't really know or is having difficulty reading the room and are afraid they might offend someone or come off poorly.

I prefer Atlus doing their semi-hard translations for things rather than trying to make it sound like they're not Japanese.
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>>172371953
No. Anne is for Joker.
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>>172329610
But getting some bucks by using the Switch
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>>172372605
>>172372605
>>172372605

NEW THREAD
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>悪い話じゃないと思うんだけど。
>"I don't think that's a bad deal."

Mostly just too formal, but it's one of Goro's phrases that gets mirrored by Joker's choices at one point. I'm not sure if the localization's version of that line can be mirrored the same way due to the context, but it's possible that that's a detail they missed entirely since it's pretty easy to overlook.

>>172371523
Possible, but it's not a good idea to depend on intonation in a dub only when a game offers dual audio.

>>172371619
>>172371835
They don't need to keep the なんてね as a literal "just kidding," but they probably shouldn't toss it out entirely. Doing that will lead to some people missing the attempt to backpedal on it, instead of it coming across as a sincere comment he tries to frame as a joke afterward.

>172371405
It's been a while since I saw it and it's one of the scenes I don't have on hand, so I'd have to dig up a video first. I'm guessing the poem's what's unclear?
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