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Reminder that SteIIaris has its own general and discussion of the game doesn't go here. Thank you.

We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, June 29th:
226 – Cao Pi dies after an illness; his son Cao Rui succeeds him as emperor of the Kingdom of Wei.
1807 – Russo-Turkish War: Admiral Dmitry Senyavin destroys the Ottoman fleet in the Battle of Athos.
1880 – France annexes Tahiti.
1922 – France grants 1 km2 at Vimy Ridge "freely, and for all time, to the Government of Canada, the free use of the land exempt from all taxes".
1972 – The United States Supreme Court rules in the case Furman v. Georgia that arbitrary and inconsistent imposition of the death penalty violates the Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments, and constitutes cruel and unusual punishment.


>News
HOI4 DD17/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-june-17th-patch-1-1-red-ball-express.949237/

CK2 DD 11 - The End of Days
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-developer-diary-11-the-end-of-days.950847

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[CK2 - 2.5.2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.1 - 20/06/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

Old Thread >>146912898
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>146968749
YES LADS

HE'S BACK

STEAMGROUP GETTING BTFO ONCE AGAIN
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lmaoing @ r&i
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>>146968749
This
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5th for Best Russian borders
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>>146968749
WTF, I hate r&i now
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>getting ready to make a new thread, waiting for the old one to hit at least 740 posts
>r&i, desperate to not get cucked like he did last night, makes his own nearly 20 posts early
bravo
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>a real flag

Wouldn't even know where to find that desu
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>>146968939
I bet 5 finest kongolese slaves he just posts his hurr rebord and ignur with his phone
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>>146968939
Fuck off.

>>146968749
Everyone please read and understand this post.
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>>146968929
explain this meme
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>>146969036
i bet he has 5 kongolese slaves to make threads for him 24/7
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>>146968939
The shitposting thread that got deleted? I'm sure that would work our again. :^)
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>>146968749
This so much

steamgroup please get the fuck out
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>>146968923
>"greater" belorussia
>controls hardly any of greater belarus
>"greater" ukraine
>controls hardly any of greater ukraine
epic
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Nothing beats getting 5% warscore for a battle with more than 75,000 soldiers.
I know it's because I'm defending against the entire Islamic world.
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>>146968997
If you're the Jap Navy dude from the last flag, I'm sure you can get a normal version of that flag of the net. Though I don't know what normal flags are made of, maybe some sort of cotton mix
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>>146969225
Just convert to sunni
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>>146969740
Why would I do that?
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>he isn't a fascist revolutionary
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>>146969781
Because it's the best religion
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>>146969818
WTF i hate johan now
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>>146969865
>not shia
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>>146969818
>inb4 that mouthbreather starts the whole fascism debate again
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>>146969724
yeah I fucked up the quote

I'm looking at flags right now and almost all of the real antique ones are the red dot on white with inscriptions or the one I want but really tiny

And they're all 100+ sheckels

I think the synthetic will do until I graduate desu
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>>146970102
>Incapable of a successful uprising
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>>146969818
>not being anarcho-capitalist
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>HE WAS A CONSOLE OF ROME
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Imagine... a perfect world.

My goal for this game is creating the best world to live in for the white man. Step one is creating a Gross Germaniums through diplomacy, because focuses = free land. Step two is avoiding WW2, obviously. Step three is dismantling the USSR peacefully. Step four is colonizing China.
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>>146970204
Maybe try pressing it with heavy books then. If the folds aren't too bad that might solve the problem. Also remember to get a matching headband.
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>>146970505
Don't trust the brits.
Remember, you can't spell "allies" without "lies"
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>>146970505
>34 % world tension
Getting all the way to Fate of Greece may be hard now
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>>146970712
You mean they're... All lies?
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>>146970768
Wasn't planning to go for Greece. I like my roughly square Germany.
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>>146969219
Well it's the same way post-war Polish borders were just shifted to the west, along with the entire populations.
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>>146971202
Remember, you must unite ALL the germanic people under one banner. Anschluss soon fellow Greeks.
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>>146971202
It looks more like a reichtangle.
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>>146971331
>Greeks
>Germanic
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>>146971331
It would be wrong to force our brothers in Greece into a union that they don't desire.

Democracy is the right of all white people.

Better to focus on creating some overseas territories in China.

>>146971341
Ja baby let's do this thing.
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>>146971464
how did you get danzig without the allies throwing a fit
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>>146971818
Danzig for Slovakia.

You have to complete the Fate of Czechoslovakia with total annexation, then you trade Slovakia for Danzig.
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Are they honorary Anglos?
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>>146971464
>the Germanic warrior peoples in a European alliance led by the cunning Britons
It's like the EU done right
At last I truly see
The Germans should be a warrior caste in a greater European society rather than leading themselves to destruction as they always do
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>>146971464
>He fell for the democracy meme
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Dump a list of good Germanic names for EU IV colonies.
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>>146972023
>.svg.png
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>>146972034
>WW2 never happened, British empire and Raj still exist
>China has been crushed by decades of colonial management, the yellow menace will be forever quashed by Africa-tier mismanagement
>Japan will still be our yellow brothers because WW1.5 still happens between Allies and Japan
>Cold War happens with a vastly reduced USSR - it's both less drastic, and shorter.
What we do, we do for the world entire.
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>>146972156
Just do it like the people who make anime, look at a map of Germany, zoom in here and there and pick shit that sounds neat

Translating random words also works, in Legend of the Galactic heroes there's a system and man named "pocket change" and his daughter is called "four"
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>>146972023
woops wrong pic
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>>146970505
>not taking Carniola
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how do i get rid of socialist niggers in my liquor simulator
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>>146972280
In the last thread, people were giving me names like 'Auschwitz', and 'Belzec'.
Yes. I named colonies after these.
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>>146972459
nice
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>>146972446
>take
We don't "take" from our European brothers, anon.
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>>146971464
>Soviets in Brussels
Je ne comprends pas/Ik begrijp het niet.
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>>146972498
>tfw your only African colony is named 'Treblinka'
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>>146972525
then you should rightfully obtain it, by force
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>>146972459
Post Brazil pls
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>>146972626
No no, thatś not how you say that. You should claim to protect their interest from foreign opressors by establishing a protectorate.
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>>146972794

Hello Cobra
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>>146972628
I'm still keking at this.
Read the province names from top to bottom.
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>>146972940
cobra is based
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Where am I supposed to get the South Indian portraits DLC for CK2, CPR indian portraits are fucked up without it and it's not in the archive?
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>>146972940
Cobra is based
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>>146972965
>Read the province names from top to bottom.

did you really need to point that out?
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>>146972940
cobra is based
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Anyone got a link to the 1.1 beta patch?

>>146973023
yes it is
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MEIOU for EU3 still doesnt work for me.
I reinstalled it, installed in desktop, applied al fixes evdn the 4gb shit and still doesnt work. Crashes at startup.
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>>146973001
>>146973030
>>146973230
>lost to report and ignore guy again
kek """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""based""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>146971452
When it comes to uniting the German people under one (Prussian) banner, everyone can be seen as Germanic.
Remember, Germaniums must be ______
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>>146973371
Cobra is based
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>>146973371
cobra is based
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>>146973001
>>146973030
>>146973230
>>146973485
>>146973507

COBRAAAAA
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>>146973443
>everyone can be seen as Germanic
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>>146973253
???
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>>146973674
???
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>>146973674
>sword of islam
>songs of the caliph
>turkish portraits

cuck
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Playing as Iran with persian rising mod in hoi4
Appearently my people are worth 10 times more than the usual infidel but I have way more casualties than everyone in any war.
Currently at war with Iraq, 31k persian casulaties and 7k Iraqi.
Is this because I have shit equipment? I still haven't produced enough submachine guns so there's that
what do
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I posted this in the last thread as well, but it was early as fuck and I doubt most people saw it:

I've effectively just beaten B&W, which was what was holding me up on beginning the AAR. I've got some final quests to do and some more areas to explore, but after that I should be starting immediately. Even if I start by Friday (which isn't inconceivable) I might not be posting until Sunday/Monday, though, as I want to get at least a decade or two in before I start posting, just to make sure I don't get immediately steamrolled by a Jihad and lose the game. I won't rule out losing the game in the course of the AAR, but if I do lose I'd ideally like to last at least a century first.

Anyway, in other good news, my planned trip in July has been unexpectedly shifted back to August. That means I should have plenty of time to do the AAR without significant interruptions.

Also, because an anon asked me in the last thread, I'm going to be trying to play at around the same time I did the Napoleon AAR, from about 1:00 EST to about 7:30 EST every day. That's subject to change, of course, but it's what I'll be shooting for.
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>>146973978
t. /pol/ falseflagging as reddit falseflagging as /pol/ falseflagging as reddit falseflagging as /pol/
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is there a reason why my Machine Part factory only buy half of the required amount for maintenance despite every other factories working fine?
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>>146974197
Play DD:DA too sometime
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>>146974212
t. butthurt leftypol faggot
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>>146974212
you got me
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>>146972965
Stale memes /10
Apply yourself a little more

>>146973639
>not using even the flimsiest claims and justifications to establish protectorates and Reichskommissariate everywhere
Up your Reichgame, lad.
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>>146974283
I don't know what that is
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>>146974212
Sounds about right. I wonder if they still know what exactly they're doing themselves.
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>>146974462
I'm assuming it's Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen
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>>146973870
Well I just checked and the DLC-only pack in the archive only goes up to dlc64.zip, but according to the wiki, south indian portraits is dlc65.zip. Do you mind uploading that one up somewhere?
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>be vic 2 player
>don't touch ck2 because of le casual leddit game meem
>bored of building liquor factories one day
>boot up ck2
>play it all night
Holy shit, there's so many mechanics in this game that are both complex and interactive with the player, unlike vic 2's "conquer warri, encourage bureaucrats, build liquor factories" every single fucking game. How will I ever go back to vic 2 after this?
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>>146974197
are you a spambot?
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wtf i hate johan now
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>>146974812
You'll pretty quickly learn all the tricks to CK2. Then you'll be back in the same boat.
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>>146974812
By recognizing they are different games attempting to simulate different time frames and conditions.

I wish I was able to discover GS for the first time again.
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things that make you go hmm...
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>>146975185
How did you discover them for the first time anon?
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>>146975293
wtf i hate johan now
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>>146975395
Some faggots shitposting about how complex and superior pdox games were over on twcenter
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How do I annex/puppet in HOI3 with HPP if I'm playing as Italy? The only casus belly I can seem to use are "concede defeat", "cut down to size" and "force ideology".
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>>146975395
Someone posted an image in /GoT/ years ago.
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When the fleet on point.
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>>146975712
Meanwhile, the war reaches Europe.

My efforts to ensure a harmonious union of whites gently assfucking the rest of the world are shattered.
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>>146975395
I was a huge ass total war fan but i always you could convert your save to the next game (RTW-M2TW-ETW-NTW) and then i found paradox games where you could do that. Still play TW for the battles and occasional epic campaign moment though.
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>>146975909
Be super jewish. Stage a fascist coup in poland so they join the axis and you can invade them.
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There must always be an Axis.

>>146976030
Now that is Jewish.

Alas, such activity would be at odds with the sovereign rights of the Polish people. I could never live with the guilt.

But my Chinese colonies are coming along nicely so far, and I'm sure Italy, Romania, and Bulgaria could learn from some... "hands-on" governing from here out.
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The world has run out of iron and i've been waiting decades for those factories to be expanded
What the fuck do i do HPM?
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>>146976030
wew never thought of this tactic

why hasn't the CIA done this IRL to all oil rich nations
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>>146976320
Research Metallurgy, Power, Infrastructure, and Market Functionality techs
Germany should be producing enough iron for its needs unless you have a massive steel industry, I can't see anything in that screenshot
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>>146976320
>complaining about iron AS GERMANY
wew check ur fuckin privilege
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wew Venice
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>Balkanised China
I'm not sure how I feel about this.
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This image is genuinely trash tier
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why is this happening
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>>146976320
>>146976549
>>146976635

It's really strange,I restarted the game and now it works like normal,it must have been a bug
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>>146976808
gluttonous capitalists
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>>146976802
i base every vicky 2 game off this

was it an epic troll the whole time
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>>146976854
I get weird bugs that are fixed by restarting sometimes. IE allies doing nothing at all during a war, not even to defend their own waters or land
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1-3: play EU4
4-6: play HOI4
7-9: play Stellaris
0: watch Big Bang Theory
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>>146977058
please buy Stellaris
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>>146976952
how do you even do that
everything in that image is the same colour
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>>146977058
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>shit
>shit
>shit
>complete shit
kys
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>>146976952
Yes.
You should know what you need to research. Also the artillery techs are way more important than infantry techs. Artillery does all the real damage; infantry just protects the artillery.
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>>146976952
Economics techs, especially output, are good. What the image does right is show the most important techs that you should rush IE medicine
Basically, the only unimportant tech tree is Aesthetics, and that is important if you're trying to form certain unions
Even the naval techs are important if you have a navy that you actually use
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>>146977058
>tuberculosis
>ebola
>AIDS
>cancer
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>>146976808
pls help
some factories are bugged to only buy half of the needed maintenance
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>>146974686
http://tempsend.com/5B9D38BB77

http://tempsend.com/F4C16FA56F
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where's HPM when you need him

war bugs, economy bugs, spain bugs, central/south america bugs, rebel bugs too if you ask me
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xth for kaiserlich und koniglich
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>>14697757
edit defines.lua so factories buy all their maitenence goods
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>>146978037
is there a point to making it buy less maintenance good
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>>146978007

I love it when that happens.
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>>146976363
>why hasn't the CIA done this IRL to all oil rich nations
>Kuwait
>Iran (failed)
>Saudis
>Syria (ongoing)
>every single petrodollar haven
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>>146975395
I was in 8th Grade and I found EU2 in a bargain bin.

I didn't pay it too much mind and fucked off for awhile, but then I started being really interested in the War of the Roses and liked playing the Civ III scenarios.

My interest in the War of the Roses went on to me being interested in the early modern period, and so I returned to EU2.
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>>146969982
>now
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>>146977656
Thanks senpai
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BELIEVABLE WORLDS.
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>>146975185
>>146975038
le blog ahead
It's definitely rekindling the enthusiasm for Paradox games that I used to have. I didn't play it mostly because it seemed the strangest concept of any of their games, but now I see how even the normies can like it so much.
I think I had the most fun war in any grand strat I played in this game. I'm playing as the king of Wessex, on the Old Gods start. The Dutch became independent and formed Frisia, and I allied them through marriage ties. But for some reason later on, they decide to put a prentender on my throne and land a 10k doomstack on my capital, partially capturing it and taking my daughters hostage. Luckily I barely managed to defeat it in battle with the help of some mercenaries, who defected later on and attacked me with zero casualties on my side. I killed the king in the battle, and chased down the retreating army with the new king.. and killed him. By this point my 1 year old daughter had died in the newest king's dungeon who was 13, and I was pissed. I landed the rest of my 5k stack in Holland to enforce my demands and end the war. The kid pissed his pants and called in West and East Francia into the war, but they did jack shit. I captured the little shit and some other random chick who was part of the dynasty, slaughtered them both, and ended the war. The heir for the newest king on the throne of Frisia is my cousin, so that might be a fourth king dead here.

Le blog aside, I'm sure I'll get tired of it after I get used to it like all other Paradox games, but the sheer amount of interactive mechanics and dynamism makes it different for me.
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Im still mad about East vs. West. I've been playing NWO for darkest hour, and its only made me want a Cold War game with appropriate mechanics even more. The Cold War DLC that comes out for HoI 4 will definitely be shit.
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>>146975682
Please respond.
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>UK AI is bugged again
>Station all their troops in Canada and spice islands
>France is literally winning a war with 300 military strength vs. 1300
This is awful in so many ways. Does this happen more often in mp? Because I've not seen this level of stupidity in single player.
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>>146979946
Just buy the DLC
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>>146979578
>East vs. West

why you gotta keep reminding me
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>>146979578
you can play the leaked version of EvW, it's complete but buggy as hell
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>>146979946
You playing HPM?
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>>146979946
>bugged

You say that like the Brit AI is actually going against their best interest.
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>>146979946
>le wiz straight
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>>146980139
>le EU is there for you goy
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>>146979946
wew what happened to their navy, how many warships do they have
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>>146979946
fuck off back to your steamgroup
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Should King of Sweden or the Isles be my primary title?
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Am I losing my mind if I tried to get to this thread by just typing HPM into google?
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>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01 <- (Download this to make R&I mad)
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.5 <- (Download this to make Alex & the Grandi Youth extremely mad)
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - 7 Years v4.1 <- (Download this to make R&I mad)
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.5 <- (Download this to make the whole thread mad)
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2 <- (Download this if you're a retro memer)
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t

>>[V2] Liquor and Bureaucrats Mod 1.2 <-(Download this if you like to encourage and partake in shitposting)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ r1s3v3z0d17ctya/liquornbureaucrats.rar

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin <- (Browse this to make R&I and the Grandi Youth extremely mad)
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB
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>>146980545
Danke Kobra
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>>146980257
They still have a large navy. Parked in India and doing nothing.

>>146980343
What? Are you trying to meme on me lad?
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>>146980545
Based Cobra
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>>146980601
go back to your fucking steamgroup multiplayer playing piece of shit
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>>146980545
based cobra
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Spore >>> Stellaris
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>>146977058
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>>146981239
Final Frontier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stellaris
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>>146975395
I found EU in the games isle of an office supply store. It looked interesting, and it was around $20. Probably less than a year later, I picked up EU2, and could actually annex France.
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Holy shit, Arumba is a piece of shit and got blown the fuck out here:
https://youtu.be/c_jhI-YuhiE?t=423

Marco Antonio is our boy.
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>>146975395
Got piss near blackout drunk and bought EU4 with all DLC's for full price before steam refunds were a thing, and then passed out, and it snowballed from there
>>
is mare nostrum worth it? haven't played eu4 in like 6 months
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>>146982098
t. marco antonio
fuck off
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>>146982213
Why haven't you played it for that long
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>>146981407
t. Marco Cheesetonio
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>>146980764
I was just playing multiplayer with a friend ;_;
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>>146982267
>t. doesn't know marco antonio
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>>146982275
Don't know, haven't really felt like playing it.
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>>146982356
>t. IS marco antonio
stop posting marco isn't it bedtime in whatever third world hovel country you lvie in
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Would you recomend playing For the Glory?
Is it filled with "believable worlds"?
What mechanics does it have that makes it better than EU3 or MEIOU?
>>
Someone should mod in the music for the really old Paradox games into EU4 or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=illqsErOSmg
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>>146982446
Don't return to it imo, do what you've been doing for the last 6 months. Improve your life, meet new people, try to fix things, etc. There are like millions of things you can do which would be better than spending time on EU4
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>>146982459
Stop insulting the King of Grand Strategy.

Come back when you managed a Luxembourg World Conquest in DH, HOI3 and HOI4:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/luxembourg-world-conquest-by-1947.951920/
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>>146968749
t. Grandi
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Should i?
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>>146983242
>4x space strategy
"no"
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>He unironically plays CK2 without the HIP mod
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>>146983409
>he unironically plays meneth's cultural marxism simulator
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>>146983458
Meneth stopped working on that mod like years ago
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>>146968939
wew what's the point, doesn't really stop anyone from shiposting, all it does is make him look autistic
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>>146977967
Shut up my mod is perfect.
>>
how do you activate the CKII dlc that is in the archive{/spoiler]
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>>146984309
shove it up your butt
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>>146983242
>>146983395
please buy Stellaris
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>>146984309
You buy the DLC through legitimate means.
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>>146983242
...torrent it for free? yes
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>>146984489
>being literal pedophile
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>>146982754
>Improve your life, meet new people, try to fix things, etc.
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>>146975682
PLEASE FUCKING RESPOND.
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>>146984758
>announcing your reports

lad
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Don't know who to play as in EUIV. Maybe Italy? Or something else around the Mediterranean? Greece?
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hey guys which one of the species portraits is your favorite? ive been fond of this one since the game came out, and ive used it several times. it has a nice feel to it.
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am i the next tupac?
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Guys I pirated HOI4 and got this. What do?
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whats the optimal % of capitalists??

no memes pls
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>>146986304
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>>146986450
100%

I fixed poverty for you, you're welcome ;x
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>>146986304
buy the DLC
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>>146986304
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>>146986450
0
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>>146984309
you pay for it on the steam sale
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CK2 mods that I download thru the workshop downloader dont work, whys that?
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>>146986941
Because you're a filthy pirate who should just buy the game.
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>>146986304
>>
How do you make America interesting in Victoria 2?
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>>146987296
Blob
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>>146986450
0% comrade
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>>146987296
Conquer all of America and destroy Europe for the sweet migration.
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>>146986613
>>146986858
ebin
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>>146987543
Filtered
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>>146987678
:^) having a hard time waggling your willy?
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>>146987543
>Conquer all of America

I always wanted to do this but the UK is actually really fucking strong and will push your shit in.
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>>146984309
You just shove them in, but you have to have horse lords bought legit else it won'y work.
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>>146987631
>The Führer will never pinch your cheek after strapping an iron Cross to your chest
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>>146987543
>>146987791

Here's your (You) you attention starved dickless twink
>>
So what DLC is actually worth getting if I were to get CKII and EUIV?

Right now the only games I have are Vicky 2 and HoIIV.

Will Vicky 3 be the next game Paradox makes? Please?
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>>146987997
buy all of the DLC now, friend

every big CK2 DLC is worthwhile except Sunset Invasion
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>>146987997
>So what DLC is actually worth getting
All of it. Seriously
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>>146987792
>have 200 brigade army
>decide it's time to free Canada from English opression
>suddenly English, Australian, Irish, South African and Indian armies all pouring in from every coast
>end up like this
>>
>declare war to british raj without my allies
>take it
>when they capitulate everything I didn't have is given t peoples republic of japan
ebpin
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>>146988179
>>146988258
You mean like the major DLC right? Not like the portrait or unit packs or anything right?

If I could only get one, should it be CK or EU?
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>>146988458
EU, you'll play it the longest because we're going to get CK3 before EU5.
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>>146988458
Steam summer sale has both of them along with HoI3 and Victoria 2 for just 25 shekels.

Fucking kek at buying DLC though. Just pirate that shit. Link is in the OP.
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>>146983409
>play ck2
>play mainly as sweden
>install HIP
>uninstall it
If they fucked up Sweden this badly, I can imagine the rest of Europe getting fucked up too
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>>146988949
What is HIP and what does it do?
>>
>2016
>playing child care simulator
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>>146989129
It's several mods combined to one.
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What happens if I press a concubine's claim?
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>>146989343
Then your concubine becomes a ruler. Seems like it would be pretty tits but she wouldn't be on hand to gibe de pusi.
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>>146988769
Is it really that easy to pirate?

I already bought all the DLC for Vicky 2 and HoI3 in like 2014, because my "friend" convinced me I need all of it.
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>>146989343
you become a cuck
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>>146989526
>she wouldn't be on hand to gibe de pusi
Not worth it at all then.
>>
>>146983242
>>146983395
It's a better 4x than stellaris or civ. Buy galciv 2 before trying galciv 3. 2 is a lot better than 3 if you enjoy micro management then you'll excel at and enjoy the series.
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>>146989536
Extremely easy bro. Like I said the link is right fucking there. The activator comes with a readme file.
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>>146989343
Your wifes son will inherit it. Literally.
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>>146988949
You can still use the vanilla map with HIP
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>>146989536
You do need the Vic2 dlc game is utter trash without it.
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>>146980545
Please remove my mod from this hall of shame, I don't want 7years associated with waggles, Liquor and Bureaucrats and literal meme mods.
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>>146987997
just get it from the archive you retard, it works with legit copies
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>>146989707
>Your wifes son
>>
Why do you start in EUIV with no markets or churches? That makes no sense tat you have to unlock them and build them. What was everyone doing before you built them then? Sitting in their own shit? Markets and churces have been around for millennia
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>>146990013
not an argument
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>>146990083
>not an argument
not an argument
>>
>>146990013
>finally we have reached the tech level where we can build a harbour my king
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>>146977058
Le ebin Sheldon autism
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>>146990083
>>146990156
>/pol/ meme
you have to go back >>>/pol/79195838
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>>146990013
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>>146990013
DUDE

ABSTRACTION

LMAO
>>
Alright, I finished Witcher 3 unexpectedly early. That means I'm going to be starting on the CK2 AAR as of right now.

As I mentioned before, I'm going to be playing in about 10-20 years before I start posting anything, just to make sure I don't get an extremely early game-over. So long as I make good time today and tomorrow, I expect I may be able to post as early as Friday, although no promises especially if I get memed on.
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>>146990013
tech is convoluted
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>>146990360
What's your campaign goal and how hard will you powergame?
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>>146990360
dude no one fucking cares, you've been posting updates and reminders about how you're going to post content in a week or so, for weeks.

Stop being so desperate for attention.
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>>146990360
nobody cares about your gay fanfiction, meme man
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>>146990301
>/pol/ meme

I thought it stemmed from the whole "realism isn't a meaningful argument" thing.

I don't go to /pol/, lad.
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>>146990360
You got memed on fampai
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>>146983409
every time I try it the game just crashes after 10 minutes
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>>146990301
t, someone in pic related
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>gf has foreign parents
>play as their country
>conquer tons of land
>show gf
>calls me a fucking child for playing video games
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>>146990786
Only a fucking child plays video games
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>>146990515
No powergaming at all, if I can avoid it. I have house rules which prevent me from doing most of that, you can see them here: http://pastebin.com/Gpi85HZt

General goal is a Christian Levant, but that's a lot more vague and subject to change than the Napoleon AAR. In that AAR, I was creating characters which weren't represented at all in the game and using them to tell the story I wanted; in this case, I'm going to be bound to behave, in general, as my character traits dictate.

Technically speaking, although it's unlikely, I could be Sunni before this game is done.
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>>146990786
>>146990836
fucking child?
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>>146990301
you have to go back to cripple chan
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>>146990786
kill the bitch in her sleep
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>>146990762
Considering two of those three posts are mine, I doubt it :^)
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>>146990786
>trying to reason with a female human

laddie..
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>>146969818
Fascist Revolutionary here.
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>>146990786
She didn't call you a child because you play games anon. She called you one because the game you played was EUIV
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>>146990989
then fuck off back there
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>>146990786
>marrying an immigrant
kill yourself human trash.
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>>146991098
Considering I've probably been here long than you, I think I'll stay ;^)
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>>146973443
Groß must they be Großer.
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>>146990786
>gf

suspense of disbelief shattered
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>>146991189
you're gross
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>>146991150
back the fuck off!!!!??!?
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>>146991150
>GF has foreign parents
>you take this to mean 1)he will marry his girlfriend and 2)his girlfriend was not born in his country
lmao it's 2016 dude get your head out of your ass.
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>>146991150
Anyone that browses 4chan is human trash
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>>146990786
some much bait in one post
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>>146991281
>if I'm a paki born in the UK i'm an english man xD

die
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>146991281
>and 2)his girlfriend was not born in his country

end yourself right there and right now
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>>146991379
Yes. That's how it works. Now go back masturbating to wehrmacht images, you stormcuck!
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>>146991435
t. leftypol raider
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>>146991281
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>>146991528
This isn't /pol/.
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>>146991563
this isn't leftypol (the only board proven to raid /gsg/)
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>>146991563
t. leftypol
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>>146991563
>/gsg/
>not /pol/
lad. . . . .
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>>146991150
>marrying

I haven't planned on married anyone you cunt
>>
>>146991741
Are you kidding me? Have you ever seen any wehrmacht images, grossgermanias, HoI-posts or autism map painting here? No, you haven't
>>
Can someone explain to me what leftypol is?
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>>146991563
t. leftypol raider
if you dont stop we're gonna have to waggle you again
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>>146991435
>hehe because the laws of naturalization were changed 20 years ago, it's the absolute truth
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>>146990762
>>146990929
How did you procure those images, tovarisch?
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>>146991682
>>146991738
>>146991886
I don't even know what that is. I don't care about inter-chan bullshit.
>>
>>146991842
>>146991981
a board on cripplechan that raids /gsg/
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>>146991842
a board on 4+4 chan
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>>146991981
Your kind isn't welcome here, outsider
>>
/gsg/ I have just wrapped the civil war as Republican Spain, what's a good next step in my Darkest Hour journey?

Is there any value to continuing or is there another country I should start? Something South or Central American perhaps or will USA intervene in everything I try to do?
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>>146991981
pls an hero
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>>146991682
That's bullshit there was an /int/ raid just last night from /brit/ and /lat/
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>>146991842
see
>>146968846
>>146990762
>>146990929

They are a board on cripple chan that has launched organized raids on /gsg/.
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>>146992114
Reclaim the rightful Spanish clay in America regardless of what the Monroe Doctrine says
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>>146992083
I've been coming to /gsg/ longer than you son.

I remember when people were laughed at for posting grosspreussensdeutchesgermaniumsreichs in EU3.
>>
What's the /gsg/ approved endgame for Armenia on ck2?
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>>146992083
>>146992150
>if you don't care about some reddit off shoot chan that means you're an outsider
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>>146992393
turkish genocide
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>>146992393
all of india
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>>146992357
they still are laughed at faggot

nobody here is a /pol/ infiltrator part of the grand scheme to turn /gsg/ into the 3rd reich now fuck off back to leftypol delusional retard

t.someone who's been on /gsg/ before /vg/ even existed
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>>146992114
Nah you'll just get steamrolled by Germany after France falls.
>>
>>146992393
Conquer every holy site of every religion in the game
>>
Adding "NDefines.NDiplomacy.START_COALITION_INTERACTION_ENABLED = 0" to defines is sufficient to completely disable coalitions, right? I think I've got shattered retreat disabled, but I'm not sure if the above line is all that's necessary to completely rip out the infamy mechanic.
>>
>>146992792
Just play on 2.4.5
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>>146992960
Nah, I want Conclave (its council mechanics are actually quite good) and I want the newest version of HIP, as well. Everything is already set up to go, anyway, aside from ensuring I've got coalitions shut off.
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>>146992310
>>146992672
So what should I start instead to learn the mechanics?
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>>146992792
As the other guy said >>146992960
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>>146993094
how did you turn off shattered retrat?
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Someone give me a fun start, start and objective for a CK2 game. No meme answers.
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r8
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Johan is an Autist.

He does not like how Paradox is dealing with their games. He doesn't like the DLC policy, he doesn't like the casualization, he doesn't like the SWEDEN YES-tier intrusions to his historical simulators.

And yes, he privately laments on not making the games more like simulators and less like platforms for easy fun and DLC.

He's a sub-par male specimen due to his physical health, but he likes his games. He just can't do anything but go with the company's flow, he is silenced and basically acts as a lunch-time bug-tester and balancer, a face of Paradox PR and a testemant to past age of Paradox GS games.

He still occasionally plays EU2 and his earlier games, that is more we can say about the newer, more 'progressive' employees at the company.

Johan is an Autist.

He was the creative designer on Stellaris, nothing more. He had a more prominent role in EU4 as the lead for Game Design, but was heavily constrained by release schedule and Wester (CEO) influencing the development to create a more profitable platform for DLC and easy fun. Johan had an even bigger role in the development of CK2 as it's Producer for it's initial development back in 2012, and less constrained by a still transient Wester who had not discovered the perfect formula for profit. CK2, at the time, was an 'okay' game that many people could have seen being improved to be better than CK1, and more.

CK2's DLC was not developed in any way by Johan, and look at the game now.

Games previous to CK2 are either acceptable or more high up there in autistry, while Paradox was still a small (sub-40 employees) yet growing company and Johan still had a voice that was listened to.

Johan is an Autist.
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>>146993229
Define fun.
If you want a bunch of conquering, try Norse pagans.
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>>146993265
>Not loyal to the Emperor
Were you fortunate that the Byzzies attacked the Abbasid blob?
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>>146993229
Count of Aargau in 1066
Form the Austro-Hungarian empire
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>>146993302
>mocking Johan

Lad... you do realise this is a STRONGLY pro-Johan general right?
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>>146987792
Just build a strong Navy and smash the small fleets they send your way.
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>>146993462
Where was he mocking him?
>>
>>146993143
And as I said: >>146993094

>>146993191
"NDefines.NMilitary.SHATTERED_RETREAT_ENABLED_COMBAT = 0"
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>>146992357
>turkslayer is a trump supporter
>/pol/ memes in all the avatars of people part of kojak's and turkslayer's steamgroups
>rangerage is a /pol/ack
>literally the only well known leftist in this entire general's history was meneth
>somehow /gsg/ wasn't already /pol/ or going to turn into /pol/ anyways
>>
We have an official steam and discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a legitimate group known for organizing multiplayer sessions and posting insightful comments in the thread. They are known for their sense of honor.

Read and enjoy it.
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>>146993439
Abbasid's got fucked by civil wars and I just started eating chunks of them. Also can a character hold more than one emperor title?
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>>146993129
I just learned by playing Germany and other major countries.
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atleast i finished it
>emu empire as puppet

someone at paradox is lurking on /int
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>>146993680
That was nice. It took 600 years for them to break apart in my game, but now they've strong alliances with all the splintered Abbasid duchies.

You can hold more than one emperor title, but you'll have to deal with vassals starting more factions for that title, and you don't get de jure drift.
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>>146993609
>/pol/lacks are the menace destroying quality /gsg/ discussion
Not surprising
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>>146993229
>No meme answers.
What the fuck does this even mean?
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>>146992664
The grand scheme is on the part of the regulars to constantly shit up this general with retarded external drama that only a minority of posters even know about.

Nobody cares about the steamgroup, nobody cares about people posting stellaris here, nobody cares about leftypol, why don't you losers add that to the OP, just make the whole OP into circlejerking drama.
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>>146993876
>/gsg/
>quality
>discussion
lad......
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>>146993962
t. /b/tard
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>>146992357
>>
>you will never post in a nazi-free /gsg/ again

Thanks for ruining my board you /pol/ kids, it's nothing but literal nazism and inane shitposting now

>inb4 le leftypol raiding us XDDD
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>>146993876
>quality /gsg/ discussion
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>>146993229
>fun start
>No meme
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>>146994057
You have to go back
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>>146994057
see
>>146993609
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Anybody want to play a game of Vicky 2 in Multiplayer?
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>>146994057
i will repeat
>turkslayer is a trump supporter
>/pol/ memes in all the avatars of people part of kojak's and turkslayer's steamgroups
>rangerage is a /pol/ack
>literally the only well known leftist in this entire general's history was meneth
>somehow /gsg/ wasn't already /pol/ or going to turn into /pol/ anyways
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>>146993609
>implying /gsg/ hasn't been shitposting and drama since 2012

this is how i know you're actually an /r/paradoxplaza immigrant
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>>146994134
>>146994163
>>146994297

If I wanted to, I'd post pictures of the first /gsg/ threads on /vg/ back in 2012 with everyone pretty much shitting on /pol/, as oldfags probably already remember.

But I really dont give a fuck about your opinion, as you're probably unironically as retarded as half of /pol/. I bet that more than half of that board quite literally denies the holocaust, memes aside. That's literal mental illness if you ask me, worse than denying the moon landing. I remember when that and nazism was barely memes, but pretending to be retarded really did attract retards to the group..
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>>146994297
not only was meneth the only well known leftist in this general's history he was also banished to reddit when we found out he was a leftist
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>>146993265
>>146993840
>blobbing

seriously why do people do this and not go for realistic/historical aims?
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What's a good Infantry Division template for a Poland survival run? Should I get AT guns?
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>>146993962
>>146994064
>Implying there wasn't a sizable community of modders in /gsg/ before turk started his autistic crusade
>Implying people didn't used to actually post screenshots of their games instead of autistic shitposts and made-up 4chan drama
>Implying we couldn't even have generally calm, rational discussions about politics
I want the old /gsg/ back
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>>146994295
fuck off to your steamgroup
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>>146994553
>we
Kill yourself
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Mods please
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>>146994515
lots of assumptions you're making there lad

>>146994601
there still are modders
there still are people posting screenshots of their games
we still have "calm and rational discussions about politics" from time to time
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>>146994581
Stack artillery and nothing else. Get the support AT but beyond that you don't need anything. Just push up your soft attack as much as possible.
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>>146994515
>posting the posts of 1 retard sperging out because /pol/ was supposedly invading

The kind of people who would browse /pol/ were always here, /pol/ just wasn't popular enough back them to spout noticeable memes so you never knew someone like rangerage was from there.
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>>146994575
the game ends after the peace conferance and you cant not blob in a world war since you have to occupy nebraska to defeat the US of A etc

i had 50% participation while the reich had 25 or something so really high memepoints to spend
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>>146994656
/gsg/ is a lost cause the only thing mods can do for us is autosage all /gsg/ threads and release us from this hell
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>>146994575
>hurr durr big empires dint really exiitst

It's fun taking an underdog nobody like Georgia and turning it into a major regional power you sperg.
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>>146994575
Realism is not a meaningful argument.
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>>146994515
i can tell you've never been on /pol/ and are probably a /qa/tard because otherwise you would know how much /pol/'s opinions have changed since 2012.
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>>146993824
Oh I assumed that starting mid-teir and heading up would make the most since managing large fronts is difficult. I suppose having lots of IC to play with is good for newer players like me. On that note is it ever worth building IC?

Is this general always this fighty or have I come at a bad time?
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>>146994602
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>>146994515
neither the moon landing nor the holocaust happened, tho
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>>146994892
they didnt have ugly ass borders
take over a region like russia or the middle east instead of invading whoever just lost a war
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>>146994515
i was around back then too, you were probably that one autist who went into a sperg rage about /pol/ whenever someone made a joke about the jews
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>>146994740

Is it worth getting AA? I normally don't bother but Poland hasn't a prayer of getting air supremacy.
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>>146994515
Half of /pol/ are Russian shills tho
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>>146994909
All of my experience about /pol/ comes from when /new/ was deleted, and all the idiot stormfags spilled out into other boards to shitpost and complain.

Then /pol/ was created, deleted, and that happened again.

So I don't care about /pol/'s opinions. It's a fountain of shit and I wish they would just keep to their board.
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>>146995156
I'm planning on granting independence to all that ugly useless steppe land I acknowledge that the borders are hideous.
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>>146995383
Why are you pretending to know about a boad you've never been too? If you had any knowledge about /pol/ you would've known all those people fucked off to cripple chan in 2014 and /pol/ is just old /b/ today.
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>>146995156
Also all those ugly northern borders were bulgarias, I put my grandson on the throne after creating glorious Georgian empire.
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>>146995383
/pol/ today is just /b/ with a political facade, it's not 2012 anymore /qa/tard
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>>146995543
I'm browsing /b/ since 2007 and /pol/ since it was /new/ and /pol/ is closer to reddit than it is to old /b/. Everyone who posts that fucking cancerous frog is reddit-tier, and /pol/ is full of it. It's a good indicator of the reddit percentage of a board to be frankly honest with you lad, much like that cancerous d*ge shit was some time ago
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>>146994932
>On that note is it ever worth building IC?

Yeah, IC takes up too much time and industrial capacity to build during the war, so stack it in the rearmament phase. You should be building nothing but IC for the first two years. Don't start building units, planes or ships until you get your tech up to date.

You have to take advantage of the gearing bonus (each time a unit gets produced, the next one will be produced faster). So the most efficient path is

>build IC while teching up
>as soon as you get modern infantry, tanks, ships, etc., start a serial production of 99

This way you'll have a bigger industry base, and be building the most modern equipment possible at the fastest possible speed. Generally it's not worth it to cancel production lines for higher tech, because you lose the gearing bonus. It's best to produce outdated units fast and let them be upgraded than to slow down your production, mostly because higher tech doesn't change the stats that much.
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>>146995383
the only thing worse than a /pol/tard is a paranoid anti-/pol/tard
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>>146994932
Yes just keep in mind that it takes around 5 years for a new factory to "pay" for itself. Also you get a research slot every 20 IC up to 100 so if you're close it's worth it.
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>>146995181
AA will never be enough to kill the 2000 CAS germany would deploy so no
get AT if you see them fielding medium tank or if you're using the AI tweak mod
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>he doesn't play MP
>he will never experience this
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>>146995807
/pol/ was closer to old /b/ in late 2014-2015 because all the oldfags moved there after they saw /pol/'s work in the independence day raid and GG. Eventually just like /b/, /pol/ became the face of 4chan and thus attracted all the ledditors who think 4chan is epic anonymous hackers.
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>all these leftist cucks want to get rid of /pol/
When will you ṛedditors learn that these aren't subṛeddits. /pol/ is the political culture for 4chan. The board is just where we specifically talk politics. If you don't like it, go back to ṛeddit.
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>>146996000
>he will never know this feel
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>>146994740
I just annexed Sovjet and Germany before 1941 as Poland without building a single plane.
Go roughly 50/50 artillery and infantry template with engineers/recons/supp artillery when you are able to get them. You don't even need to care about air supremacy. Go full soft attack. Artillery inside your template gives fucktons of soft attack.
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>>146996179
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>>146996179
>Anarchist spain
There was a chance that this could've happen in real life
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>>146996000
>>146996179
>>146996365
fuck off back to your steamgroup
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>>146996049
False. GG is what killed /pol/, since it dragged all the /v/edditors to /pol/ by having the entire board tell them to ">>>/pol/"
And /v/ is literally r.eddit. I've done a lot of experiments on shitting subtly on reddit there to see how they react and it's full of unironical "what's wrong with reddit you edgy kid??" responses. It's mindblowing how radically can a board's culture change for some 3 years. That includes generals too

/pol/ was closest to retro/b/ during 2012, until the entire unironical cancer of 4chan started getting redirected there
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>>146996162
/pol/ is literally r.eddit
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>>146996516
The easiest way to identify a redditor is when they start replying "muh secret club"

At that point you know all hope is lose
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>>146996681
lets see what the ledditor in pic related has to say about that
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>>146996162
Why don't you stay there and stop offtopic posting in a video game thread then? Noone is taking your precious containment board away.
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>>146996681
literally any popular board on 4chan has been taken over by reddit (/v/ and /b/) or has enough redditors that you can notice them (/pol/ and /tv/)
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>>146995850
>>146995948
Thanks, another thing on IC I'm kind of confused about the rules on where it can go. I've felt out a nation or two just by playing it for a few months and I think it's tied to infrastructure but sometimes there's IC there already when it couldn't be built else where with the same Infrastructure value.

What's the deal with that and is there ever an IC cap in the capitol because I seemed to be able to create a serial run that went on for miles?
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>>146995383
we probably get more immigrants from /r/paradoxplaza than /pol/
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Hello is this the way to comfyland
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t. me
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>>146996516
>I've done a lot of experiments on shitting subtly on reddit there to see how they react and it's full of unironical "what's wrong with reddit you edgy kid??" responses.

You're really over exaggerating.
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>>146997097
I wonder why
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>>146996727
>>146996774

I'm new in 4chan (3 years in here) I didn't use reddit tho.
I've adapted myself to the special culture in here and I hope we can all be friends :^)
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>>146996727
I remember when people complained about people not following rule 1 & 2
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>>146997248
really makes you think
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What is being "reddit" exactly?
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>>146996681
recently /pol/ has been getting a lot redditfags from right wing subreddits who hate reddit because its left wing but because /pol/ isn't apolitical it will never be taken over by reddit like /b/ and /v/
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>>146997328
Whatever I don't like desu
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>>146997328
liking the frog meme
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>>146997451
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>>146997402
A right-wing redditor is still a redditor lad
>>
avjkl;
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>>146997418
This.
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>>146996936
It requires 40% infrastructure and there is no cap.
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>>146997521
yeah but /pol/ will never be invaded on the scale of /b/ and /v/ because right wing subreddits don't have the population of left wing ones. Reddit is, always has been and probably will always be majority left wing.
>>
HPM
pls fix Spain/American continent rebellions
pls fix economy/war bugs
pls fix Russia/China/Ottomans being invariably useless 100% of the time
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>/gsg/ talks about how 4chan """"culture"""" is being taken over by outsiders and changed for the worse
>spergs out the moment someone posts an anime reaction image


The irony here is really fucking outstanding.
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>>146997682
So is 4skin, outside of /pol/
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>>146997834
lmao no it isn't
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>>146997834
"no"
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>>146997694
Thanks for visiting us today!
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why is memeth trying to fuck up my nice borders?
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>>146997834
Only /pol/ hates anime because "muh degenerate" argument
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>>146997796
>implying
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>>146997834
4chan was never really political, we just laugh at whatever side is being dumbasses at the time and currently it's the left wing
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>>146997248
>>146998007
thank you based reddit spy
>>
>/gsg/, a random /vg/ general, is way closer to old/b/ than either /pol/, /tv/, /int/ or any other board

really makes you think...
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>>146998046
i can tell you've never been on /pol/ otherwise you'd know there's a shit ton of weebs there
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>>146997890
>>146997932
>thinking 4chan is Stormfront
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>>146998248
the only one thinking 4chan is stormfront is you
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>>146980545
please fix los
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>>146998007
you're the one posting your adventures on reddit faggot
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>>146998141
That's because victoria 2 is too autistic for reddit
And most of the people here enjoy that game, except for a few ck2 sister-fuckers
>>146998239
I have been in /pol/ for 2 years, stopped going in when it was filled with Russian chills and thread baits 24/7
There's only one anime that's "muh redpill space nazis"
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>>146998397
You literally got that backwards.
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>>146998248
>just because 4chan isn't fiscally left wing anymore means we're stormfront

even /pol/ laughs at those retards
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>>146997590
Thanks for the help I'm really enjoying getting into an older Paradox title warts and all.
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Fuckin hell you mongs are still going on about reddit and /pol/
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>/vg/ - Video Game Generals
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>>146997248
That's a rob false flag
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>>146998141
It makes sense actually. We're one of the oldest generals on /vg/ (maybe even the oldest) and we haven't had much outside influence on our culture since the recent /r/paradoxplaza invasion.
>>
Did HPM fix the economy yet?
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>>146998945
he fucked it up
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>>146998708
Getting your tendies from your mom doesn't mean you're independent and self sufficient, anon.
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>>146998882
talex
>>
>>146999007
trob
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>>146996365
can i join?
>>
redpill me on /r/paradoxplaza
>>
The two most common reactions of the HPM Internet Defense Force:
>>146998486
>its a reddit false flag!
>>146998882
>its a steamgroup false flag!
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>>146986858
What's the optimal number of commissars and bureaucrats?
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>>146999307
HPM attracts them to this general which is why he has to go
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>>146999307
It's cancer
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>>146999307
better than this shithole that's for sure
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>>146990301
stfu fascists are native to /gsg/ foreigner.
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>>146999234
You are 2 years late
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how do i resist the urge to purge every one of my vassals who strays out of their de jure territory?
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>>146999436
This

I like the guy's dedication and him listening to our feedback, but he's trying way too hard to maintain his "reputation" as a tripfag and to sound as mature and serious as possible. That's a reddit behavior and has to go there.
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>>146999648
The biggest issue is his pastebin. Its linked there and they know where to find him. He needs to step up and force reddit to remove it from the site. But he is too much pussy to do that.
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Rate pham
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>>146999864
better they go to his pastebin than to here where they can shit up the general
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Which african states are suitable for a believable Russia?
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>>146990013
Realism is not a vlaid argument
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>>146999971
None
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>>146999971
any part of africa is believable for any nation in europe
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i want to escape this hell
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>>147000134
Good post
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>>147000134
>frog meme
off yourself
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>>147000120
dont dew yourself in just yet kid

>>147000134
this
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>>147000134
treddit
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>>147000134
Bavaria belongs with Austria
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>>147000069
>>147000106
I mean states with useful resources and pretty, believable borders.

Maybe I should just sphere the SP that gets the Congo.
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>>146999971
Muscovy
>>
How do Great Wars unlock in HPM? It's 1918, and a crisis over Slovakia went hot, with Russia/UK/Italy vs Germany/Netherlands, but it's just a crisis war, not a great war. I've researched Mass Politics, and I assume the other countries have too since they're slightly ahead of me.
>>
>>147000224
>>147000290
>implying pepe hasn't been taken back from the normies after being associated with white supremacists
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>>146999971
Russia is literally the only European nation that would never blob into Africa desu
Well, except for the Suez cannal if they were on par with West Europe's technology and the rest of the Sinai if they took the Palestine as a colony from the Ottomans.
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>>147000134
dude EPIC frog hehe mind if i save it ;)
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>>147000452
Russia did have a colony in Djibouti tho.
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>>147000439
>implying alt-right isn't reddit as fuck

gb2 reddit
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I think I managed to fix LOS myself so now to continue with this

Legacy of Slovenia - grobgermaniums
Rules-
>government can only intervene in economy to build, expand, and subsidize liquor industry
>nfs must be only on encourage bureaucrats at all times
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Hey Lads, been away for.a long ass time, is HOI4 as horrible we thought it would be? Is it still a map arrow painting simulator or is it a proper GS game?
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>>147000452
What about the WARM WATER PORTS?
>>
Don't forget to report and ignore, folks.
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>>147000679
I wouldn't even know what's Reddit because I don't browse there faggot. But you apparently do.
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Hey guys I have a problem.

I pirated all of the EU4 DLC and have used it for over a year. The problem is that the DLC is no longer showing up and the Activator doesn't seem to be working.

Any help?
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>>147000679
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>>147000793
Yes
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>>147000793
Yes
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>>147000793
No
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>>147000793
yes pls buy
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>>147000793
yes
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>>147000856

Anyone???
>>
>>147000793
Yes
>>
>>147000856
>I pirated all of the EU4 DLC
Scum

Go buy it
>>
>>147001041
I was told a few threads ago that you need to crack the entire thing now. So >>147001098
>>
>>147001098

fuck off johan
>>
IS HPM AROUND?
I found a bug in the Russian events.
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>>147000624
>the colony got blasted to shit by french ships because the leader misunderstood the surrender ultimatum
>to distance itself from it all colonists were disavowed by the russian empire and arrested

wew
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>>147000624
Those were Cossack separatists and it lasted one month before the Russian government itself bombed the place down.
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>>147000883
>>147000910
>>147000939
>>147000971
>>147001041
>>147001052

Desu lads, please restrain your urge to shitpost for just a second and give me a coherent answer.

I'll pirate it anyway.
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>>147000134
LOL Poland and France are sooo cool i

HAHA ETERANEL KRAUT BTFO

no lets go and become a real country like belgium or the netherlands
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time for sea access
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>>146994057
>you will never post in a commie-free /gsg/ again
Nah commies can post im not a fag.
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>>147001290
Wouldn't even bother pirating it, come back in 3 years when they release 100 DLCs that should have been in the game at launch
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>>147001320
that's a big file size
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>>147001290
Neo-ottoman empire and the empire of platypus are legit ingame country names.

Draw your own conclusions.
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What's the best way of getting Romania to join the Intermarrium?

It should be really easy because Romania and Poland were already allies since 1921.
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>>147000812
They wanted Indian/Pacific ocean warm water ports that were connected to the Russian mainland.
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>>147001290
It's unironically a good game. Buy it
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>>147001367
i dont care if commies post just as long as they dont spam pig memes from leddit
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>>147001548
>Kaliningrad is connected to the Russian mainland
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>>147001421
I like that they apparently decided to add a total casualty counter so you know exactly how many bolsheviks you've slaughtered.
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:DDDD
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why can't we all just hug eachother
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>>147001778
gay
>>>/fit/
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>>147001483
I thought that was some retarded country shen made up to have one of his retarded playthroughs, I guess johan really did fuck everything up, which isn't at all a surprise I suppose.
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>>147001778
Because that's gay and being gay is degenerate?
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>>147001635
>it was an exclave when the Soviets annexed it
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>>147001320
>>147001678
>png
Literally fuck you Cobra
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mecklenburg is now liberated from the tyrannical hands of a non-liquor-building government
>>
Why aren't you faggots worshiping this man? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLqJip3XFWo
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>>147001778
You can hug my dick with your mouth, anon.
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>>147001912
cobra is based
>>
>>147001912
see >>147002095
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>>147001912
*hands you a vegemite sandwich*
>>
I WANT A GRILFRIEND
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>>147002054
because we've moved on to superior steel memes
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>>147002196
"no"
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grob deutsches indioniums
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>>147002196
how do you get a gf tho
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>>147002365
Do you have a hand?
>>
Ok so I don't really get how production works in terms of trade in EU4

If I build loads of production buildings upstream from where I collect, will I collect more money there?

And would the Production Efficiency buildings ever be better than Goods Produced buildings?
>>
>>147001826
>>147001863
>not enjoying strong masculine sweaty arms touching you while his hands meet on your back
lmoa faggots
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>>147002365
Why would you ever want 3D trash? 2D is the only way to go.
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>>146999934
>not starving your atisans
0/0
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>>147002657
BOXES MAKE MY DICK HARD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHC7-bbe_qQ
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there isn't much of a navy but everything will be okay
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>check /r/4chan
>this pic is deemed as incredibly funny and has 4.5k upvotes
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>>147000380
pls respond
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>>147002986
>USA
>shit tier
USA is based
>>
>>147002598
this, fucking another strong man is literally the least gay thing imaginable

what a bunch of pussies you guys are
>>
>>147002986
what does this have to do with GS

more importantly why the fuck are you on reddit
>>
>>147002986
thank you based reddit spy
>>
>>147003150
>what does this have to do with GS

What does 90% of this thread have to do with GS 2bh lad
>>
Will you buy my video game?
>>
>>147002986
Isn't like 80% of reddit's userbase American?
>>
>>147003274
I've read somewhere that it's in the top 30 websites in the USA, compared to the 100th or something globally.
>>
>>147003150
Why aren't you on reddit?
>>
>>147003273
"no"
>>
>>147003274
millennials hate america though
>>
im going on a road trip with some friends

only vicky 2, Darkest Hour and Stellaris will run on my shitty laptop

I`m not driving and it's gonna take hours to get to each city for the next week

give me some goals for any of those 3 games
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>>147003150
/gsg/ is just a grand strategy themed /pol/, which is itself just a politics themed old /b/, which itself is just a random themed /a/nime image board
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almost there cum on lad you can do it
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>>147002986
This one is the second most funny pic with 4k upvotes

note: everything else has an average of 300 upvotes
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>>147003451
im sorry lad ive been away a long time please explain this meme to me
>>
>>147003490
>vicky 2, Darkest Hour
groβgermaniums
>Stellaris
uninstall.exe
>>
>>147002986
>>147003274
>>147003381
No wonder it's so shit then
>>147003481
Literally all Americans get defensive over anything, even calling Mississipi less developed than Spain gets on their nerves.
>>
>>147003578
I can stand commie posters if they RESPECT FASCIST POSTERS, if they don't they deserve the shit they get.
>>
>>147003682
"no"
>>
>>147003772
and both need to respect monarch posters who are the primary culture of /gsg/
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>>147003729
>Mississipi less developed than Spain
that's over the line 3rd worlder
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FUg DDD: it said they had no military
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>>147003856
lad desu, lad.
>>
>>147003772
wut does that have to do with the post you were replying to
>>
>>147003578
Shut the fuck up.
>>
>>147003642
>Redditors are too scared to come to le edgy hacker stronghold that is 4chan so they have to make subreddits about it
>>
>>147000793
Yes
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>>147003942
rip g*rman india
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>>147003729
Mississippi has a higher GPD per capita than spain
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what an embarrassment

oh well just send more ships
>>
>>147004243
damn... he's so cute...
>>
>>147004243
is he hoarding his shekels
>>
>>147004489
any popular board is reddit

even a niche general like /gsg/ can't get away from the grubbing hands of leddit
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>>147004118
Can you blame them? I have to steel my nerves with alcohol before coming here.
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on the positive side look at all this delgasious liquor
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>>147004646
00 GET
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the naval base was finally built

>>147004646
pls 00
>>
>>147004489
>>147004646
what does this have to do with video games

why are you so desperate to start another argument about 4chan
>>
>>147004646
96-99 get

Our Final Invention by James Barrat sounds fine af to be honest with you
>>
>>147004646
rollan
>>
>>147004646

hit me doc
>>
>>147004646
re
fuckin
roll
>>
>>147004646
oh man
>>
>units spawning and moving to merge up
>rebel decides to pop right then
every single time
fuck you jacobins
>>
>>147004717
>>147004859
>accidentally sent his post before finishing it

spotted the redditor
>>
>>147005048
oh fuck me, why did I do this?
>>
>>147005052
>>147004646
>/pol/
it's like I never left
>>
>>147004489
it is old /b/ though, both got overran by reddit (it was 10x worse on /b/ though because most of reddit is left wing and thus dislikes /pol/)
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okay THIS time
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>>147005184
52 is paper and origami senpai, not pol
>>
>>147004646
Gotta be better than this shit
>>
>>147005254
weak encouragement mana lad
>>
>>147005219
redditors are already starting to push /pol/ more left wing, today you can even find people there that support israel and think the holocaust happened
>>
>>147005254
what the fuck is Denmark doing
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>>147004646
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>>147004646
JANNIES

>>147005336
that's great then
>>
>every single thing right now is off topic except for legacy of slovenia

lmoa sorry r&i
>>
>>147004646
JANNIES
A
N
N
I
E
S
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>>147005351
>>>/out/
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>>147005425
based cobra
>>
>>147005254
>3.21%
>3.21%
nice lad
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>>147005425
i want paradox office drama talk
>>
I CAME HERE LOOKING FOR HPMguy AND ALL I GOT WERE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT SOME ALEX GRANDI GUY WHO THE FUCK IS HE

FUCK ALL YOU RIGHT WING RACISTS, IM GOING BACK TO /R/PARADOXPLAZA WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY HELP EACH OTHER
>>
>>147005683
t. Rob
>>
>>147005683
goodbye nigger
>>
>>147005683
t. reddit
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>mfw I finally figured out how to blitzkrieg properly in HOI4
>>147002657
>putting hats on the Excell girls
over the line
>>
>>147005683
t. steamgruppe
>>
>>147005683
talex
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all the clippers got lost at sea
these poor 21k brave soldaten are stranded here until I build new ships and send reinforcements

once bureaucrats get to 4% in both states I'll encourage them somewhere else
>>
>>147006068
Oh it's you. Fuck off soldat.
>>
>>147006190
How do you know my name?
>>
>two or three lefties post here for a day
>/gsg/ gets triggered to oblivion and shits on their board

>/r/paradoxplaza has hundreds of regular crossposters since forever
>/gsg/ does absolutely nothing

?
>>
>playing as tribal
>subjugate another kingdom
>+75 "subjugated" opinion modifier missing for some reason
>get assassinated within months
nice game
>>
>>147006068
>they can just survive in some hills with literally no infrastructure and economy based on agriculture of a single good while they're encircled by the warring nation
good game
>>
>>147005812
>>147005842
>>147005870
>>147005907
>>147005975
WHO THE FUCK IS ALEX WHO THE FUCK IS ROB ARE THOSE JUST RACIAL SLURS AGAINST HISPANICS OR SOME SHIT YOU FUCKING RIGHT WING RACISTS JUST TELL ME WHERE THE FUCK HPM IS THATS ALL I WANT TO FUCKING KNOW I DONT GIVE A FUCKING SHIT ABOUT LIQUOR
>>
>>147006256
lefties and /r/paradoxplaza immigrants are one and the same
>>
>>147006356
Here I am son, what do you need?
>>
>>147006356
t. rob aka alex aka finnbro aka cobra aka turkslayer aka memeth aka kojak aka bobo aka turdslayer
>>
>>147006496
where can i download your mod? also how do you deal with these right wing racists everyday? why don't you just post on reddit?
>>
>>147006256
>Implying I haven't been here since before /vg/ existed
>>
There's more backlash towards Paradox on their forums than there's ever been. We need to mount an operation to save Paradox at least until the point they can release Vicky3
>>
>>147004646
ok
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>>147006350
the natives are teaching them how toi grow corn and fish

this war has gone on for too long
>>
>>147006721
we used to raid the forums and /r/paradoxplaza till newfags associated that with actually being members of those communities
>>
Going for my first Ironman run ever - Wanna go Muscovy

I should expand east and get big before going after the Kiev trade node provinces in Lithuania, right?

And is going after Finland for the fur provinces a good idea at all?

Also, any tips/tricks?
>>
>>147007234
you type like a redditor
you smell like a redditor
you look like a redditor
>>
>>147007234
>eu4
uninstall.exe
>>
>>147007494
Should i play liquoria 2 instead?
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more lads to india
capitalists are ruining my liquor based economy
>>
>>147007234
>going after fur
topkek
>>
>>147007713
Why are you not splitting your doomstacks and sieging the other provinces?
>>
>>147007647
No play a good game like stellaris
>>
>>147007928
>21k
>doomstack
>>
Is this mod any good or is it a meme like unHPM?

http://www.moddb.com/mods/blood-and-iron-mod

I feel like I've played all countries that should be played in HPM, and I'm now kinda bored of vic2.
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much better
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aahhhh... relief
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>>147008217
any mod that adds new start dates is automatically a meme mod
>>
>>147008217
Try an alt history mod
>>
>>147007647
>>147007713
When did this liquor meme came to existence? Liquor has been the most profitable and easy to build factory in victoria II ever since the release of the base game. Yet I don't remember people spouting memes all the time back then.
>>
>>147008706
the discord group
>>
>>147007354
autism
>>
How do we solve the reddit problem?
>>
>>147008706
Because people stopped circle jerking over the vicky economy long enough to realize just this, the entire economy is based on liquor. Thus it became a meme.
>>
>>147007893
That jumped out at me as well.
>>
>>147008885
Banish Alex Grandi to reddit.

Most redditors come here for his mod.
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>>147008706
When shitposters needed a new "meme" to force
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>>147009354
the holocaust actually happened
>>
>>147009354
We don't need to pretend :^)
>>
>>147000779
Holy shit someone still plays that mad?

If you're still here, what was wrong with it? I didn't realize people actually wanted me to work on it still. I'll definitely push out a new patch, just tell me the bugs.

t. Cobra
>>
>>147009512
Well...shit. Good point.
>>
>>147009535
based cobra
>>
>>147009354
HOI IV is a masterpiece.
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we are obviously way under the liquor quota
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Get wrecked, Vandal scum
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>>147009535
the demand concession cb, when you moused over it in the justification menu the game would crash

all I did was replace it in cb_types with the vanilla one, works fine now. I wanted grob deutsches raj.
>>
Is there a mod that adds more torture events and stuff that works with HIP? I don't see why I can't just fuck women I imprison in raids
>>
>>147009354
Generalplan Ost was a legitimate plan to exterminate the Slavic race
>>
>>147010114
that is the most retarded and Jewish shit I have ever heard more than the masurbation machines of death and the human lampshade.
>>
>>147009354
i must unite the germanic people under one banner
>>
>>147009895
there is a torture mod
i don't think it's supported anymore
>>
Post wiz pics
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>>147010370
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>>147010370
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>>147000380
PLEASE RESPOND
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>>147010370
wiz :3
>>
>>147009831
Must have been an issue from when I went in the to mess with the Chinese unification casus belli, I'll look into it.
>>
>>147000380
>>147010550
>playing steelmod
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>>147009829
>I tried so hard
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time to go again
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>>147011079
you tried so hard not to be a faggot and ended up sucking 100 big black cocks because you played a meme mod for a meme game
>>
>>147010634
>>147010531
>>147010423
lol he looks so autistic it's hilarious
>>
>>147011137
Are you even going to bother forming Germania?
>>
>>147011227
It's being worked on
just a slow sphereing battle
>>
>>147011172
I'm sorry I triggered you anon
>>
GS newfag here. What does "look at my Germanyblob!" mean in the OP pic? Are there a bunch of edgy stormfags trying to be the best Hitler?
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>>147011418
Forgot pic
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>>147011418
go back 2 reddit or lurk before you post
>>
>>147011418
germany is one of the most used blobs in the game, the OP pic was made at a time when german blobs were really popular and nobody really cares if you post them anymore, they'll probably just meme at you

it has nothing to do with stormfront/hitler most are actually the 2nd reich
>>
>>147009831
>>147010664
Could you tell me what your checksum is? The crash isn't happening for me.
>>
>>147011502
I didn't come from Reddit, I came from /b/

checkem
>>
>>147010550
>>147000380
You need 3 GPs fighting, with two allied and you need revolution and counterrevolution.
>>
>>147012194
how the fuck did you get here from /b/? anyways fuck off back there
>>
>>147012194
>there's a difference
>>
do warring countries in Victoria 2 embargo each other? If I produce like 80% of the world liquor and go to war with some large country like Russia, would Russia cease to function since they wouldn't be getting enough liquor?
>>
>>147012438
if you dont have liquor you basically lose the game
>>
>>146991405
I totally forgot about the skype chat

Those were weird times, I remember LoR just came out for CK2 and some guy posted this weird clip from Big Brother where the "nerdy man" they have every season was speaking in green text.
>>
>>147012438
No, they don't. You always sell everything in the global market.
>>
>>147012249
Two allied as in two are you allies? GP's won't ally with you if you already have a GP ally until Great Wars. If "two allied" you mean two GP's on one side, I had that. I had 3 GP's on one side, vs 2 GP's, and I had Mass Politics
>>
>>147012929
Yeah, two GPs in one side.
It's an event so there's a really small chance it won't fire.
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Swedes are adept at deep penetrations in the enemy rear.
>>
>>147011418
German blobs and blurple blobs where a thing in EU3. It was the meme that was spouted back then. Basically the player formed Germany as quickly as possible and tried to conquer as much of the world. It might be fun the first time you manage to pull it off when you learn the mechanics of the game but everyone has seen this a million times. EU3 was much more fun If you became the international border police and war everyone to create pretty borders all over the world.
>>
>>147014043
>not using the console/save-edits to make pretty borders and imagining it as a congress between the countries exchanging land
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>>147014292
>cheating
>>
smtfu
>>
pls buy stellaris
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The Great War of our time.
>>
just bought stellaris ama
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>>147015296
When are you going to unistall it?
>>
>>147015296
What does Johans dick taste like?
>>
>>147015296
How do you like it so far?
>>
>>147009829
what mod
>>
>>147015274
what mod
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>>147015353
>>147015529
>>147015839
LOL I didn't actually buy it! I cannot believe you all fell for my ruse!
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>>147013427

France fell but I'm just going to continue chilling here in Berlin.

SWEDEN YES
>>
>>147011472
what mod
>>
>>147016030
>That map
Pretty sure that's HPM.
>>
>>147016160
Savage.
>>
>>147016160
>i was only pretending to be retarded
>>
>>147016160
FICKING NIGGER WHY DID YOU LIE TO US!!!!!!KILL URSELF U WASTE OF HUMAN SPACE!!!!!!
>>
>>147016181
what mod?
>>
>>146994057
>leftists invade the only existing sanctuary for anyone not holding leftist ideologies
>whine and complain that people don't follow their ideology there
>demand that everyone not following their ideology be kicked out because they're "invaders"

leftists; delusional hypocrites: the ideology
>>
>>147016520
what mod
>>
>>147016520
what mod????
>>
>>147016520
HPM is an ideology?
>>
>>147016847
what mean
>>
>>147016520
Well most people are liberal, yeah.
>>
>>147016910
lurk moar
>>
>>147016954
what mean
>>
>>147016936
>most people are liberal
Most people are apathetic
>>
>>147017036
gentoo
>>
>>147016520
>>147016880
>>147016936
>>147017073
what
>>
>>147016936
Actually if you count the world population I'm fairly sure the liberal-conservative ratio should be something like 80 or 90% in favour of the latter
>>
>>146974947
>now
>>
>>147017132
mod
>>
>>147017475
mean
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>>147016519

No mod. The AI is just easily exploited.
>>
>>147016030
>>147016193
Yes it's HPM with BigSquareFrame and CaptRobau Map Font minimod
>>
New Thread
>>147017676
>>147017676
>>147017676
>>147017676
>>
Where's the new patch
>>
>>147017516
HoI4 is pretty shit.
>>
>>147015274
Austria with South Tirol looks like shit
>>
>>147017512
standard deviation
>>
>>147018343
in what
>>
>>147017516
>one year
>already one million lost
>>
>>147018414
My iq
3
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>>147018542
figures
>>
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R8 my plan for my Groß Yugoslavia

Red is definite borders, yellow I'm not sure about.
>>
>>147018679
It's 3 standard deviations
>>
>>147018706
There's no reason not to take the whole of Constantinople/Stargrad.
>>
>>147018719
Nah it's 3.
>>
>>147018719
>Memeslavia

Delete this.
>>
>>147018803
I meant in the negative
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>>147018802
That's blobbing.
>>
>>147018936
This
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>>147018936
>>147019060
What makes you say this? Or at least, what makes you say it as if it's a bad thing? What anon suggested isn't reckless pointless expansion. It makes sense.
>>
>>147019662
It doesn't, especially from an economical point of sense. The region is useless, you have no claims or pops there.
>>
>>147019813
I should have qualified that by saying I'm a newfag to the game. It seems to make sense geographically but I get your point.
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>>147018236
When I dismantled Italy, it went to Austria. I agree it looks like shit, but the Italians can't catch a break now, they just got dismantled again.


Is that peace deal enough ? It seem no one will get back from this for a long time, and all the major powers will become fascist.
>>
>>147019813
If he takes all the rest of the land he's targeted, it'd make sense to take over Tsargrad for complete Balkan dominance. It's a strategic interest, and symbolic.
>>
>>147024149
No it doesn't, you didn't dominate anything as greece is still free.
>>
>>147024364
I don't see why a Balkan regional power wouldn't want to take Tsargrad if they could
Bulgaria wanted it
>>
>>147025059
Because it's useless and they have no claim over it.
>>
>>147025206
>no claim on it
Neither did the Ottomans
>useless
?????
Hard to manage at first maybe, but that region strategically incredibly important, it controls access to the black sea.
Whole reason for the battle of the Dardanelles in WWI

No worse than Russia taking Vladivostok in my eyes, I unno
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>>147025605
>Neither did the Ottomans
They did, it's full of turks and its theirs for 300 years.

>Hard to manage at first maybe, but that region strategically incredibly important, it controls access to the black sea.
The region alone doesn't control access to the black sea, the other side also controls it. It's useless without holding both sides and two hostile powers holding would just make the dardanelles a no-go zone.
Which is the reason the GPs never let anyone take it, they just forced turkey to sign some deals over the dardanelles.

>No worse than Russia taking Vladivostok in my eyes, I unno
You do know Russia took the whole region beyond the Amur to protect Russian settlers there. You know, the whole argument of having a sizable amount your nationals living there.
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