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Nuns with guns edition

>Proper Duncan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEjaR_-lCxw [Embed]

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android.
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!z4wmmJyR!jTfwLczhdFjV0q6nowtGag!qgZhmAhK

>40k rules reference in wiki format.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQs.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>8th edition FAQ:
https://warhammer40000.gw-hub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/New-Edition-of-40K-FAQ.pdf2

previous thread >>53148091
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my dudes > your dudes
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second for actual plastic sisters
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Make Carnifexes Great again
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>>53150274
Guaranteed replies
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>>53150274

5th for Guilliman!
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>>53150274
Yes, we can!
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>>53150303
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Enough /d/ posting please. /d/ posters are worse than /pol/ posters.
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I wish they'd just release the rules already
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>>53150358
Just over a month to go.
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>>53150274
...where that sister comes from?
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Nuns with guns! Nuns with guns! Nuns with guns!
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Reminder that chaos deserves to be bullied

Especially abbadin
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>>53150319
I want Robooty to write another big book of war
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>>53150358
Gives me time to paint.

speaking of which:
https://strawpoll.com/2d9aya3
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>>53150387
>he hasnt seen the FW front page yet
hoh boy
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>>53150399
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>>53150431
The first part of the title is misleading
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>>53150334
I take offense to that.
>tfw eager to explore new Ocean World for the Emperor
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>>53150274
Oooh, some jimmies are getting rustled today, anon.
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>>53150429
Oh man that's some powerful bait, I almost hate to point it out.
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>>53150429
>being this cruel with poor anon
Sorry >>53150387 but it's third party russian stuff.
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>>53150487
https://youtube.com/watch?v=S6syMB7CQpE
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Ultramarine codex when?!

>inb4 codex space marines

Ultras need a book that reflects their, power, glory and superiority across the stars
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>>53150488
source? google just give me "ANIME"
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>>53150508
Thanks anon, different anon here, just opened the thread and was very confused.
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>>53150494
Saint Celestine a cute, A CUTE !
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Has anyone actually tried to order these? And what's the pice tag?
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>>53150541
Boku no pornfish
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>>53150334
> /d/ posting
Spotted the imperial ! Point your fingers at him and laugh ! LAUGH !
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>>53150529
>implying that the space marine codex doesnt already show their superiority
Come on Anon they literally are chosen to be the base for all other chapters in that book. For real we should probably just squat all the other marines in the book.
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>>53150593
Just go back to /d/ please. Your memes are shit, your fetishes are shit and I hope you die from AIDS contracted from one of your sexual misadventures.
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>>53150541
check "Filename" in /tg/ archive and RTFT
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>>53150556
That was last year. No idea now
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>>53150424
Crimson fists should be winning that emperor damn poll

t. Black Templar player
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Fingers crossed for a Hive Tyrant to be 10 wounds only
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>>53150608
>not knowing that /tg/ and /d/ are practically sister boards, since /x/ dumped us years ago
You must be new around here.
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>reposting from last thread
I made a house rule for a special character I'm working on converting. Give me your thoughts, /40kg/,
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>>53150637
That's actually not too bad. Might try and place an order and report back.
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>>53150608
>your fetishes are shit
amongst others, yes....
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>>53150659
>muh 1d4chan /d/ maymay xd
Good christ

>>53150672
Please fuck off. I'd rather hear retards shitfling about female space marines than this garbage,
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>>53150488
>half of it is horse pussy
>the rest is barely animated
Enough with the disappointments
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>>53150659

no, your posting off topic and acting like a huge faggot
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>>53150684
yeah, female space marines and adepta sororitas are also on the list of fetishes, which begs the question, what, do you not want an amazon woman and prime subject of humanity to drain your balls then crush your skull for heresy? what are you fuckin gay?
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>>53150714
>>>/d/
I came here to discuss plastic toys, not your fucking degeneracy. That 6 gorillion gaunts shitfling was more related to /tg/ than this.
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>>53150662
Seems fine. Probably pretty fair all things considered. Just a master-crafted power sword with extra strength, a Stormshield, and a minor buff bubble for friendly units.

She seems kitted out for close combat, so not going to be OP in a sisters army by any stretch. You may need to clarify if that Feel no pain boost stacks though, because that could be quite good with a Hospitaller or with Repentia.

Or just wait until 8th
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>>53150694
>>53150728
>slaanesh
>off-topic
newfags
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>>53150728
i wonder if there are any pictures of gaunt ovipostion
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>>53150728
>came to discuss toys
>>>/toy/
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>>53150739
>i-it counts b-b-because muh shitty chaos god that's 1 step away from being squatted!
>>>/d/

>>53150768
>>>/b/
>>>/h/
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/out/
>>>/trash/
>>>/anywherebuthere/
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I, for one, welcome the new commissars of 8th edition.
Do you think they will be able to multitask by diminishing battleshock for all units in a radius of X inches around them, or will this only work for one unit of guardsmen per turn ?
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>>53150780
>1 step away from being squatted
when will this meme die?
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>>53150809
When you do, you fucking degenerate faggot.

Which is pretty soon, considering all the STDs you have.
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>>53150809
when GW stops getting rid of slaanesh stuff
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>>53150561
>>53150631
>it's porn
I don't know what i expected
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I'm getting to old for this level of shitposting.
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>>53150780
Anon, seriously, you are so shit at this. If you had ignored them they'd already be gone and now they're being talked about even more.
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>>53150819
>No slaanesh stuff has been removed yet
>Even from AoS

Sooooo ... never ?
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>>53150832
>t. didn't see the previous thread, and the thread before, and the thread before, and the thread before
/d/ posters are 10x of a bigger problem than /pol/ posters could ever dream of being.
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>>53150747
do you need the gaunt in the act of laying eggs or are other types of gaunt birthing techniques enough?
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>>53150859
I dont need either but being in the act would probably be better. i need it for a friend.
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>>53150817
damn nigga, I just got here. Why so hostile?
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>>53150834
>start collecting demon kits for nurgle, khorne, and tzeench
>slaanesh hasn't gotten new models or boxes in years
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>>53150321
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>>53150887
>cancer admits he's a newfag
You literally can't make this shit up.

Go and stay go. Burn all your minis. Bin all your reaction images. Maybe even ask for some CP on /b/ so that you never ever touch this site again with your filthy grasp.

All degenerate porn on /trash/ and /b/ could never compare to the amount of cancer you alone create.
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>>53150641
plz explain
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>>53150909
it is time to take a break, my dude
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>>53150933
why would he take a brake, his bait is working.
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>>53150933
Said the obnoxious cancer who's been spamming and shitting up /40kg/ for the last few weeks while everyone was too busy blaming /pol/ and shitposting about 8e to notice.
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>>53150802
It will be all units within a certain range most likely. Maybe they execute a model of your choice rather than roll the test, idk.
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/Leftypol/ pls go
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>>53150826
>tfw 28 and feeling like this

I'm not sure if 4chins has changed or I have....
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>>53150854
>t. /pol/ poster
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>>53150975
both.

for the worse, if your curious
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>>53150488
Oh shit they actually made a hentai out of that doujin?
Please tell me it's good, my dick needs this
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>>53150909
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>>53151009
nope. the one for boku to misaki sensei is pretty great though
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>>53150968
/Rightypol/ is the real cancer
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>>53151025
>nope
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>53151074
There's no such thing as rightypol. That's just /pol/. And no, they might be cancer, but they're not as cancerous as /leftypol/
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40K Salamander models when?
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Holy shit, 40kg fucking sucks now.
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>>53150684
/tg/ was /d/ with dice long before 1d4chan was a thing.
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>>53151117
Give it a week we will be back to normal.
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>>53151074
>>53150949
>>53150909
>>53150817
>>53150608
>he says cancer, AIDS, and STD's
in general, are a bad thing

As Nurgle, I am deeply offended.
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>>53150891
Not getting new stuff =/= getting stuff removed
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>>53151117
>now
where the fuck have you been?
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>>53151102
t. Rightypol
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>>53151117
Unfortunately people refuse to stop taking easy bait at the moment, so yeah it's pretty fucked.
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>>53151117
>Implying it didn't suck at some point in time
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1) Be excellent to each other
2) Party on, dudes
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>>53150662
Shield seems too good with the 3+ invulnerable. The sword is almost as good as the ardent blade but the str difference is acceptable.
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>>53151192
what if someone likes a thing I don't like?
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>>53151134
It'll all go to shit for good when 8th edition drops. The thread is going to be split between people who are in favour of and those against the AoS'ed rules.
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>>53151206
Call them a stupid faggot
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>>53151192
Yay ! Hwee wheel partay, for Kayhoss !
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>>53151206
I don't know. That's literally never happened on /tg/
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>>53151135
i dont get the whole isha nurgle thing
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>>53151206
Oh I mean if that happens you should probably just fucking kill them, it's really the only reasonable course of action.
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>>53151252
Great, so we'll make /40k8eg/ and enjoy the game while bitter grognards keep crying in these threads
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So FRFSRF now makes lasguns a huge threat?
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>>53151252
Till the fucks who are anti-8th go and create their own 7th ed wh40k threads.
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Best 40k model!
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>>53151252
You mean it's going to be a bunch of grognards screeching REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AGE OF EMPEROR WE TOLD YOU XDDDDD and the rest of us saying "for the last god dam time we don't care you fuckng losers holy shit"
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>>53151302
It's great but it needs to be plastic
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I'm totally out of the loop - did sisters get plastics? Or are those surprisingly close third party models?
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>>53151117
it always sucked
>>53151154
nignog there are 3+ /pol/s
/leftypol/ is an actual board on a different chon.
/pol/ here
/pol/ on the same chon as lefty chon.
all 3 are cancer
but i hate me some commies.
modernist ideas need to die
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>>53151278
>>53151303
You seem extremely defensive, despite trying to paint yourself as the mature and reasonable side of the argument.
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Since it's the day of the guard I wanted to get some critique on the color schemes I'm toying with for my guard, obviously the detail isn't top but I'm trying to mass produce about 130 before the end of summer and
Openions?
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I hope Eldar get buffed even harder in 8th. At some point we have to reach peak Eldar and then we get to watch it all collapse gloriously.

>All those "fluffy" SaimHann players
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>>53150880
there's actually very little oviposition specifically performed by gaunts, some fluid here and there, but otherwise I'd need to look for higher biomorphs
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>>53151318
Nah, they're russian models. Look pretty good though.
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>>53151303
They are not wrong either. 8th looks like AoS 2nd edition.

Since GW stop making good enough rules after 3rd it will be shit like always, no idea why people are so trigger about 8th.
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>>53151270
He kidnapped her and forced her to be his wife. She's the goddess of healing so she's immune to his plagues, he tests them on her since she can't be hurt by them.

Their relationship was likely inspired from Greek mythology when hades stole persephone.
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>>53151293
It doubles their threat, which i wouldn't say was much to begin with.
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>>53151270
Nurgle captured the goddess Isha, so that she could not help the galaxy against his plagues.

And since nurgle is such a big dick, he tests his plagues on Isha (who always instantly heals of them), before sending them into realspace once they are potent enough.

Hence, the artist depiciting Isha eating nurgle's soup of plagues (but here, they are all lovey dovey, so that's cute).
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>>53151318
GW is blue balling constantly for the past six months, teasing our cocks like a good mistress
Plastic sisters will be coming out for eighth
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>>53150429
KILL YOURSELF
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>>53151345
They have no point. They say it's an AoS copy and that's the end of their statement. Oblivious to the fact that not everyone dislikes age of sigmar
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>>53151341
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>>53151349
False, she is not kidnapped. She just has a BDSM life style with Nurgle.
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>>53151366
>plastic sisters are coming this february
>I meant march
>clearly I meant this spring
>they'll come out for 8th ed for sure this time!
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>>53151252
Are there really that many people defending 7th?
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>>53151366
>GW rolls out plastic BDSM nuns by roleplaying BDSM nuns, complete with tease and denial
I just hope we don't get ruined orgasm
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>>53151423
I think it's just more people hating AoS-styled rules than defending 7th.
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>>53151331
I like the one on the right the best, but I feel like the red trim on the base is really distracting
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>>53151432
Thats my fetish so id be down
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>>53151349
>she can't be hurt by them.
Can't be killed by them, you mean. They cause her unbearable agony, which she eventually heals from only to suffer again like a 40k version of Prometheus.
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>>53151418
We had Celestine : it means that this is only the beggining ! They are comming soon, I say !

>p-please ? Oh Emperor, can you hear us ?
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>>53151440
It's people who have no point at all just shit posting. None of their comments are on the actual rules since none of them actually know the rules or play AoS. So their entire point is that AoS is bad just because
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>>53151446
Not in this situation. It'd be "GW Announces New Finecast Sisters of Battle Models!"
>>53151470
And Veridyan, and immolator/exorcist re-releases. And SoS which, while not part of the SoB, are definitely thematically related
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were do not dick souls go when they die? Obviously they think that the emperor protects them but he's not actually a god so...?
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>>53151432
Knowing GW they'll drop ballbusting on us at the last minute.

I assume the safeword is 'we'll give you our wallets.'
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>>53151486
>tfw GW no longer makes new models in finecast
>tfw they do this anyway
I wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry.
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>>53151105
2021
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So anyways how bout those promises that ratlings are going to be good.
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>>53151387
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>>53151497
Everyone burns in hell and is devoured by demons.
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>be kinda switch with sub or dom rolls
>GF wants to try orgasm denial
>hot.jpg
>jerks me off basically all night
>does standard dom stuff and keeps me from nutting
>dick is diamonds
>at the end of the night she stops and heads out after edging me multiple times
>we think it'll be hot af making me wait until the next night to actually have sex
>blueballs.jpg
>lay in unbelievable ball pain until a couple hours later when she gets back and we have to do an emergency evacuation
Now imagine that story, but it's GW with teasing sisters, and right now I'm at the point of absolute bliss because I know the satisfaction is going to be great, but I bet those final couple months of waiting will be hell
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>>53151508
Why haven't you said so sooner ? TAKE MY WALLET, GW ! JUST TAKE IT !
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>>53151497
The Emperor's gotta be something to give Celestine and the rest of the Sisters their divine powers, especially when you consider that the Cadian pylons fucked her over as hard as it did Chaos. The Emperor may actually be absorbing the souls of slain humans, or at the very least getting juiced up by his daily psyker meal.
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>>53151508
Honestly I wasn't even an sob fan but when GW started doing this little teases it intrigued me, now I have like $100 out aside to buy some seriphim and a squad of sisters to ally with my guard to add a little assault and increase the fluff of my inquisition army
>tfw GW's Jewish schemes are working
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>>53151596
So AoS plot 40k version?
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>>53151544
It has been confirmed that Snipers (ratling being the exemple given) can now shoot at characters which are hidden beyond other units.
So Ratling became good.
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>>53151626
Or usefull at least.
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>>53151617
No, stop.
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>>53151626
Yup, ratlings will be the cheapest IC assassins in the game

>Tfw robot arm creed uses his tactical brilliance to position ratlings to do a decapitation strike on the enemy, then moves in with the brunt on his army while the enemy chain of command is in disarray
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>>53151651
He started it!
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What's the cheapest way to get Celestine and that relic that stops deep striking into a Marine Battle Company? I've got about 300 points to spare, but the woman herself is 200 of them.
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>>53151617
>So AoS plot 40k version?

That's already what the new fluff is. Chaos takes over the Galaxy/Mortal Realms, so Sigmar/Robute forges a new army of super-soldiers to go take it back, and everyone else just kind of sits around on the sidelines being irrelevant.
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I don't know about you guys, but I for one am glad that no black people play Warhammer
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>>53151668
For the record, I was going to bring a full SoB list, but my third Immolator won't be here until the day after the tourney and I can't hit 1850 without going stupid on Veteran upgrades and shit without it.
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>>53150494
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/09/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-astra-militarum/

>Even Ratlings – with their sniper weapons allowing them to pick out and target Characters – will now be reaping a tally on your enemy’s leaders in the name of the Emperor!

Are you prepared for sniper spam 8th Ed?
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>>53151690
>mfw my favorite guy to play at my LGS is a black ork player who doesn't even run bikes
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>>53151387

To the tune of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NFBm_brx4Q

Don't have sex with a Carnifex
No you can't get sexy with a Carnifex
Not to be too crass but don't tap that ass
He's imagining assimilating biomass

Don't have sex with a Carnifex
Oh it's really simple not at all complex
Turn around, sound retreat
Use your head, move your feet
Bang your ex but don't have sex with Mr Carnifex
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>>53151750
That probably still happens on a 6 to hit
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>>53151750
>what is metagaming
>tfw Most big ICs won't give a fuck about snipers
>tfw if they do become a problem then people just won't bring many ICs and make snipers useless
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>>53151797
So it becomes the Ceramite Armour problem from 30k.
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Ok, we know that sisterfags are few in numbers but just vocal.

What would make you convert into a sisterfag?

Ever since the whole ally chart thing, I've never seen the point of sororitas

If you want power armour and bolters, why aren't you playing marines and if you want bodies, why aren't you playing guard?
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>>53151764
is he a [black] ork player or a [black ork] player?
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>GW talks about how ratlings will be good
>instantly sell out
GW memed us out of our shekels goys
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>>53151797
I mean at best they will pick off a commissar or a captain. nothing to strong will even sneeze at being hit by the rifle.
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>>53151823
I wouldn't mind running an inquisitorial thing, but I'm not going to bother getting worked up about sisters until they have models that aren't horrific trash to look at.
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>>53151750
>Are you prepared for sniper spam 8th Ed?
If lictors won't suck as hard as they do right now, I think that I could manage.
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>>53151823
Good plastic models
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How'd I do?
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>>53151838
He is a black skin gentleman who plays green blood axe orks, like most black nerds he's the whitest person in the shop
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>>53151878
Autism/10
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>>53151878
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>>53150975
i'm 19 and feeling like this
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>>53151878
Is that ... a Skaven?
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>>53151878
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So how many other Guard players are ready to switch armies now that GW has officially announced stats proving that the Leman Russ is going to be complete shit? I'm not interested in being dicked over by eldar and tau AGAIN.
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>>53151823

I've wanted a Sisters army forever. They're the most 40k aesthetically of any faction in the game. I just need plastics.
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>>53151878
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>>53151823
Plastic models. GW's kinda in a catch-22 with Sisters. They don't support them because they don't sell, but they don't sell because they aren't supported. I'd happily start an army of them if they had updated plastic models, but I hate working with metal and resin even moreso, and their sculpts are frankly severely outdated so I don't bother.
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>>53151878
Fine, here.
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>>53151878
Nurgle would be proud
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Check my math:

6.17 Lascannon Hits*5/6 Unsaved Lascannon hits*2/3 of hits wound*3.5 average damage on a D6=12 Wounds

So a pair of Devestator Squads with some reroll buffs could wreck your Tank Commander, and a spare autocannon or pulse rifle squad or whatever to finish it off.

Fair?
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>>53151878
could always be worse
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>>53151930
>Vehicles finally get similiar stats to monsterous creatures
>This suddenly means they're even more fragile than before somehow

Shitposter logic really is something special
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>>53151930
>T8 W12 3+
>probably cheap as fuck, deployable in squadrons capable of split firing, with long range high penetration weapons
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>>53151878
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>>53151878
THIN
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>>53151965
>deploy 20000 ratlings
>deploy like, so many guardsmen
>use command to fire 4 times each
:^^^^^^^^^^^^)
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>>53151950

They need the 5th Ed. Deldar treatment.
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>>53151965
>letting your precious tank HQ get caught in the open with no cover against several hundred points of dedicated anti tank and dying
Well yeah that makes sense to me, that's what happens in 7th already
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>>53151823
Their main battle tank is the guitar dude from Mad Max, but with Organ piano that shoot missile.

I don't care about rules I just want plastic models so I can stop buying ther parties.
Because I'm too old to be dealing with metal models
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>>53151972
good fucking god what
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>>53151982
YOUR
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>>53151965
Perfectly fair. Two devastators squads should absolutely be able to take out a single Leman Russ. No doubt they'll cost more points than one too.
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>>53151823
>good new models
>the point is to play an army of zealous pyromaniac nuns with guns, all 300% devoted to the Emperor
>Marines are boring, and joining a lone priest to some guards just won't do
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>>53150975
>Also 28 and feel like this.
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>Ordinatus will get 8th edition rules
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>>53151823
Because I want both and like the religious theme of the army, duh.
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>>53152019
KANGZ
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>>53152014
She honestly looks a bit like Beethoven, and now all I can see is Beethoven wrecking heretics while laying down his symphony.
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>>53151994
Quick someone get a meme guard list of a maxed out CAD of ratlings and then fill the rest of the points with leman russes, infantry platoons, and company command squads
>mfw I realize this is already my army with a few less ratlings
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>>53151823
Most 40k players I've ever met would collect Sisters if they had new plastics though. It's only the mass of old expensive metal models that put them off.
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>>53152016
Veteran trooper smik. He was legend back in the day
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>>53150975
Its both, I remember when meme-posters were mocked, now its nothing but retarded memes.
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>>53151994
>>53152010
>>53152023
I should clarify that I'm not being sarcastic. I'm just number crunchy then grabbing opinions.

>Letting your precious TC get caught out
We can only increase the save by one, and if we move we lose a BS. Not as much a problem for the TC to be sure but BS2 Leman Russes are a waste of points. Unless you have a lot of chest-high walls or an Aegis, they'll HAVE to sit in the open sooner or later if they want to be effective.
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>>53150826
Is there anyone left on 4chan who isn't jaded as fuck? What happened guys? Why can't we just go back to the old days of spamming dickbutt
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>>53151823
Plastic models, I actually started with Sisters but stopped buying them to wait for new models and because marines are easier to start with compared to SoB.
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>>53151973
>heavy bolters wound Russes on a 5+
>heavy bolters
>the single most ubiquitous weapon in 40k
>the weapon every faction has access to or an equivalent of en masse
>doesn't even need a 6+ to wound former AV14
Yeah nah, you're a fuckin' moron if you think that's more durable than before.

>>53151974
>no blasts so everything is to-hit
>5+ to hit if you move
>not moving means you die to the twenty heavy bolters everyone has
Could not possibly be cheap enough to be good now.
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>>53152058
This desu

I bought some metal characters like the inquisitors and brother captain stern and hated it, the awkwardness of pinning and gluing metal along with the weight just put me off getting any others
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>>53151965
>8 Lascannons
>Around 300 points worth of anti-tank
>With some slight buffs from whatever is giving them re-rolls
>Just barely manages to get a Leman Russ in the open, and you might want another squad with a little extra just in case

Yeah, that seems fair. You'll need the same thing against any Russ, not just a commander, and at that point you're probably spending 300-400 points taking out a 150 point tank that's out of position in one turn.
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>>53152108
It's a lot better than a single nigger with a melta gun getting six inches away and popping it wide open from full health
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>>53151930
All will be forgiven if they release Steel Legion plastics.
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>>53152108
No, 8 Lascannons will do it fine. 7 is "Just enough"
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>>53151878
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>>53152092
>20 heavy bolters
>60 shots
>40 hits
>13 wounds
>assuming -1 AP, 6-7 wounds at the end of it

That's pretty good, considering that's 200 points worth of Heavy Bolters alone, not even counting the points you pay for the BS 4 people carrying them.
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>>53150859
What's the sauce of this pic?

Also, is Instinctive Behaviour still in? It's still in, right?
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>>53152134
>tfw just realised Scions are even more useless that before

I regret choosing my army based entirely on which models I liked ;__;
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>>53151930
>slightly tougher against lascannons (the only AT weapon we have stats for) from the front
>significantly better on the sides and rear
>no longer able to be one-shotted except by ridiculously powerful weapons
>will be able to fight in melee, crushing the enemy beneath it's tracks
>complete shit
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>>53152171

>asking for pic sauce

Welcome to 4chan. You must be new.
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>>53152139
Fuck your Faggot Legion. I just wanted my stuff to be decent, and instead GW has fucked us in the ass once more.
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>>53152179
A pair of Meltaguns is still going to do hefty damage to a tank, and the Hotshots might be able to peel of an extra wound as well.

It really depends more on if Meltaguns get any sort of bonus while being in half range.
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>>53152179
>scions get 4 shots each with hotshots with orders that autopass
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>>53152183
No anon you are thinking to optimistic, Always consider the worse case
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>>53152183
...Sorta? It took 3 Lascannons average to glance/pen, so 9 in 7E to the current 6 lascannons in 8E but with a (1/6+1/6) chance to explode before you lost the last hullpoint.

We've basically gotten weaker, but lost the stun-lock mechanic that made the blast weapons a real gamble.
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With splitfire now being a thing, why would you ever take heavy weapons squad by themselves?

>5 Lascannons teams hidden inside the better part of 50 bodies buffed by commissar and orders

Holy fuck I'm hype.
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>>53152183
>lascannons
Don't you get it? Anti-tank weapons are dead. A couple dozen heavy bolters are enough to kill anything and much easier to fill an army with.

Russes are complete shit now, yes. And GW won't bother giving it melee, either.
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>>53152092
it takes 108 heavy bolter shots to kill a leman russ in one go, assuming wounds on 5+ and -1ap
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>>53151878
Very good!

Would you like to paint mine?
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>>53152248
>guardsman moves an inch
>suddenly 5+ to hit on your precious lascannons
Yeah, that's real fuckin' great.
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>>53152171
I found it browsing wh40kart, my guess it's from some fantasy flight game stuff

I doubt instinctive behaviour will be in, I believe they are going to fold it in fluffy reasons for losing tyranids to battleshock
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>>53152212
>Scions being useful
>Ogryns/bullgryns being useful
>Snipers being useful
>Splitfire buff
>Russ buff

It's a fucking good edition to be a guard player.
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>>53152249
See >>53152166

24 Heavy Bolters won't even kill a Land Raider in one turn, and that's assuming you had 6 full Devastator teams to take them and they were all in range and had a clear shot.
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>>53152262
Because size matters... :3
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>>53151352

>so that she could not help the galaxy against his plagues

I thought she whispered the cures to them to the Mortal races (kind of benevolent if that includes all races such as Humans, Tau, Orks and a lot of the other ones)?

The fact that she can do that makes me wonder if she draws power from other races aside from the Eldar (not that it does her much good for escaping Nurgle).
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>>53152272
*Leman Russ, not Land Raider
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>>53152268
>Not rushing your squads onto good cover/objectives and camping there for the rest of the game

Do you even play the game?
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>>53152268
LOL! We got an order for that already! Fire and Advance: Shoot and Scoot, baby!

Well, might not be in next edition BUT we can just conga line the guardsmen: Move the riflemen 6 inches, but a couple guys stay back to maintain coherence with the lascannon gunners sitting still.
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>>53152268
I mean, it's still a good improvement over full on snap-shotting last edition if you needed to reposition them.

Plus, we don't even know if it's going to count for if a model moves or the unit. You might be able to just have those 50 guys run laps around the lascannon team and have them fire normally.
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oh shit!
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>>53151823
>What would make you convert into a sisterfag?
pretty much nothing

Give me plastic arbites instead, please. We've got genestealer cults, now we need the jackboot to kick them back into line.
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>>53151930
>tfw want to take a bunch of Lemans with as many Lascannons possible with artillery and Vendetta support

I'm making a mech/armored regiment because I like tanks, so I'm staying. I'm looking forward to seeing what weapon profiles Wyverns and Manticores will have, with the changes to blast and all.
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>>53152314
Spoilers: they count as moving even if the guns don't move. Have fun with that.

>>53152304
More than you do if you're delusional enough to think these changes benefit vehicles.
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>>53152349
Allow me to be the Tie Breaker:

Mexican Marines!

They were my first opponent, so I like them.
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Since vehicles and walkers will have more wounds now, does that mean tech priests, meks, big meks and tech marines will be able to repair multiple wounds?

Likewise, does this mean Tau might get something to repair their battlesuits, tanks and fliers?
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>snipers can now actually reliably snipe characters

This is both great to hear and terrifying all the same.

They better make unique characters costing 120+ points resilient enough to not die to a single round of shooting by a unit of 5 Ratlings.
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>>53152314
As far as orders go the article said there were seven orders for eight edition. Right now IG has nine, and two of them (the split fire and get back in the fight ones) will be irrelevant in 8th. I expect the seven orders will just be a refresh of the seven now that are still relevant
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>>53152353
Arbites really have no point existing in the main game.

Also we are already drowning in factions, those already low in support
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>>53152376
You do not know that. But a link would be nice if you do.
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>>53152376
>Vehicles now have MC profiles
>This is bad

I guess you think that this edition will suck because my conscripts will run around exploding land raiders?
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>>53152385
has this been confirmed anywhere?
there are so many people just suggesting stuff and people are rolling with it as fact.
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IF player here. Any reason to bring Lysander back out yet for 8th?
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>>53152392
The long arm of imperial law reaches far beyond your feeble minded expectations.
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>>53152413
You'll get assfucked by mass scatbikes and riptides just like in 7e. GW is too greedy to risk alienating their biggest markets by nerfing the cheese factions.
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>>53152382
I'm pretty sure if your Riptide's leg was busted like a Tank's Drive Wheel, the latter would fall over and suffer catastrophic hull damage like an Elephant tripping on a rock.

So yes. I expect a halfling-sized Earth Caste model in the near-future. GW will never let reality get in the way of Tau love.
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>>53152349
Now you have to paint a Declates Crusade force!.
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>>53152416
>Even Ratlings – with their sniper weapons allowing them to pick out and target Characters – will now be reaping a tally on your enemy’s leaders in the name of the Emperor!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/09/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-astra-militarum/
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>>53150826
>>53152089

You know what ?
For almost 3 years, I've been depressed as hell. I've seen all, felt all, and even /tg/ became strangely painful to browse for me, for some obscure reason.

But then, quite recently, I realized what was going on.

It was all /pol/'s fault.
Everything had always been /pol/'s fucking fault.

Gamergate on /v/ ? /pol/
Getting those dumb SJW's out of the woods ? /pol/
Trump-posting with 40k memes everywhere ? /pol/
Blowing this retarded ghostbusters reboot out of proportions ? /pol/
Fucking keks and frogs everywhere ? /pol/ !
Cheetah poster on /tg/ right now ? /pol/ !

It has always been /pol/ ! Fuck them ! Screw them in the ass ! May they go to hell and burn forever, those assholes !

I hated them at first for all of this. And then, I started to feel only contempt towards them.

Nowadays, I don't care so much about it anymore. But at least, I started to enjoy myself just as much, if not even more, lurking and sometimes posting again on /tg/, as I did when I discovered 4chan and /tg/ years ago.

tldr : sometimes, you have to be mad before going better. But it takes effort, and it ask of you to understand what is exactly getting on your nerves to do so.

Sorry for the blogpost.
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>>53152349
The only solution is to paint Celestial Lions.

>Imperial Fists descendant, like those two
>Total bros with Black Templars
>Hate Orks and were almost destroyed by them, like Crimson Fists
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>>53152416
Yes, it has. Check the Astra Militarum spotlight. Mentions Ratlings taking out characters from afar, Commisars reducing Battleshock losses, Orders being changed up and hitting several units (FRFSRF making Lasguns Rapid Fire 2 for example) and Leman Russes having T8 W12 3+.

Also, no more "tank dies because of a bush", which probably was obvious but was also confirmed.
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>>53152349
Crimson Fist.

Black templarfags are fags

>>53152385
I'm guessing honorguard type of units will be reassigned to have some kind of "look out sir" kind of things.

Also killing sniper units shouldn't be that difficult to achieve.
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>>53152470
Shit, wrong pic
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>>53152385
It makes me feel bad for armies that don't have snipers though. A lot of the major ones have at least one squad somewhere, but the forces that have more limited ranges don't have that options.

Orks and Tyranids in particular stand out. Tyranids I feel could be fixed by simply making some weapon behave as a sniper for that purpose, such as those weird Homing Spike cannons that Hive Guard have.

Orks though are probably gonna be stuck with melee to try and pick off characters unless they introduce Grot Snipers or something.
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>>53152183
>slightly tougher from the front
Currently lascannons need to roll at least a 5 to glance, in 8th they need a 3 to wound. Only thing that's improved is no more exploding.
>>
>should I do x?
>w8 4 8
Suffering
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>>53152478
>killing sniper units shouldn't be difficult
>48"+ range
Getting in killing range is hard.
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>>53152470
>Almost destroyed by Orks

Anon, no. The Orks might have almost killed the survivors, but the Inquisition killed a lot of them, then left them to die to the Orks.
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>>53152134
Isn't that what melta guns are meant to do in fluff?
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>>53152376

Well, I won't say the change to vehicles is entirely bad.

I will say it was a lazy fix however as Toughness and Wounds are nothing that I will every associate with Vehicles or Walkers.

Getting rid of super-heavy units and having them degrade in capability also kind of sucks as only a few factions can actually spam repair their large units unless they plan to add that ability for all factions.

Might also be open to cheese in some ways now that I think about it.
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>>53152491
Lions are cool if you want black dudes.
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>>53152349
crimson fists are less ass to paint
like, significantly so

black+white is the assiest colourscheme to paint
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>>53152503
Most snipers don't have that sort of range on their guns. A lot of them are closer to 36
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>>53152493
Orks should get buffed Kommandos for that kind of shit and Tyranids the same with the Lictor.

Honestly, I'm not that scared for snipers. All sniper units can't survive the counterpunch
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>>53152466
Top kek, cuck detected.
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>>53152493

>unless they introduce Grot Snipers or something.

I'm thinking that would just be the Grot equivalent of a heavy weapon squad.
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>>53152508
The report says it was Ork Snipers.
Don't you trust the Inquisition?
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>>53152493
I'm hoping Orks and Tyranids will use their stealth units as dedicated anti-character units. Komandos popping in next to the enemy leader and peppering him in shotgun shells and machine gun fire until he's mince meat sounds fun and more orkish than actual sniping.
Same goes for Tyranids, just replace "shooting" with "slicing".
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>>53152466
>It has always been /pol/ !
What we call /pol/-posting these days has been part of 4chan since times primordial spread pretty much evenly across all the boards. We just didn't have a label for it. And things need to be labeled before they can be properly hated.
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>>53152508
I think you'll find the inquisition did no such thing. It was those pesky Ork snipers.
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>>53152533
People should also consider sniper units' damage output.

There's a good reason nobody is using them right now.
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>>53152533
>>53152545
That's true. Kommandos could be a good option for Orks to do that sort of thing.
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>>53152470
>>53152491
Seconding this. Celestial Lions are total bros. Wanted to make a custom conversion of their new Chapter Master for a while now but never got around to it.
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>>53152544
No. Corpse Emperor lapdogs.
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>>53152552
well at least the vindicare might be worth taking now that characters don't get a 2+ before-armour-saves save against any of his shots
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>>53152494
Why do people always forget the stun-lock?

Am I the only one here who had trouble with crew stunned and crew shaken ruining the Eradicator, Executioner, Battle Tank, and Demolisher?
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>>53152466
Were you always this much of a loser or do you really need a boobeyman to blame because people are assholes? Honestly, the scum of the community to me are the ones who won't shut the fuck up about /pol/ every time they don't like a joke. The shit they connect to /pol/ isn't limited to them at all. Maybe you should just leave if you're too much of a bitch to participate in a thread.
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>>53152528
I look forward to using my 60" anti-tank rifles.
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Since IC don't attach anymore, what will happen with transports and deepstrikes?
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>>53152552
Sniper Scouts can be decent against high Toughness units, like Kastelans and Tau suits.

The main issue with Sniper squads is that they have pretty terrible aim, considering they're supposed to be the best shots their army has to offer.
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>>53152600
I think their "best shot" was the ability to get a specific unit on a 6.

maybe their new thing will be on a 6 you get mortal wound HEADSHOT
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>>53152586
I think people are really underestimating how big of a deal not having the damage table around is.

Yeah, Lascannons will still whittle down the woudns quickly enough, but you won't get situations where one shot manages to blow it up, or just leaves it immobilized or missing its gun.

At worst, you'll be dealing with it moving more slowly and possibly getting a drop in BS once it's at half wounds, but at that point it should have done some work.
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>>53152570
You passed the test.
Join us, and we'll take Badab for ourself, away from the Imperium.

What could go wrong?
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>>53152586
Because it doesn't aid their argument ?

>>53152598
GW promised that they'll explain that in the transport article, coming soon(tm)
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>>53152491
so are celestial lions actual niggers or are they just african tribal themed
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>>53152620
That will probably be when you roll a 6 to wound, sorta like the ap2 on a 6 to wound we have now.
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ITT: Let's judge what will and won't be good when we don't know points and are still missing most of the mechanics


Standard /tg/
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>>53152622
Also, with Leman Russ' and Morkanaut having appearantly damage tables worked into the profile, I think it is very safe to assume the following :

A Dreadnought just keeps on wrecking shit at full capacity untill its last wound is gone.

>erect.jpeg
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>>53152600
>>53152620
If they make it so Snipers can more easily pick out specific characters or models like that without relying on rolls, it will certainly help make them feel like they're better shots without just being volume fire against MCs.

I wouldn't even be mad if the rule for Snipers was that the firing player got to select which models from a squad were removed, especially since characters are separate anyway.

Then have them fishing for 6s to get past armor with headshots as usual and you've got units that can pick out their targets from a crowd and strike them fairly reliably.
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>>53152620
They should definitely do something like that. Snipers wounding everything on a 4+ is nice and all on paper but is effectively rolling a 50/50 if your sniper rifle can damage a dude in a leather trenchcoat and a leather hat or just graze him with nothing happening. Even if it did hit, it was most of the time not even deadly.

They honestly have to rework snipers from the core. Maybe we'll get a sniper statblock in tomorrow's update, since they already teased them a bit. Either that or melee weapons, I guess.
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>>53152656
eh, you can judge certain things without experience.

Now this really isn't one of them.
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>>53152648
Both.
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>>53152672
>wearing a helm on your leader reduces that headshot roll to a 5+

MODELING FOR ADVANTAGE HERE I COME.
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>>53151823
Plastic models duh. the old 40k audience was old nerds and children, well those children grew up and now they want badass sexy warrior nuns.
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>>53152648
They have dark skin, yes, but no african theme.
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>>53152648
I think they're described as being proper black yes. But their lore is cool, they do have a tribal/hunters thing going on.
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>>53152677
Well, with the fact anything can wound anything else now, they could probably just give Sniper weapons a middling strength score and have them function properly.

That would remove some of their anti-MC potential, but you'd still be having them get lucky shots on 5s and 6s towards the weak spots. Then against lighter infantry, they'd be more prone to wounding on a 3+, showing how even a bodyshot would kill lesser targets.
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>>53152622
It's fairly simple to get around shaken/stunned with potms or extra armor.
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>>53152575
Doesn't he have a special rule which fucks up Look Out Sir anyway?

>>53152598
According to rumours from a source who got a few things right, transports can hold multiple units and reserve rolls are no longer a thing, so just assign character and squad to the same wave and deep-strike them next to each other.
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>>53152692
In this game? HA! Never happening. That said, I find the FW Gulliman with his helmet on Capital-A Awesome.
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>>53152726
And now Extra armor might just end up doing something else entirely, like giving your tank extra wounds or something.
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>>53151839
It's smart of them though. It works. Plus, if they decide to push out a new Rough riders and Ratling kits, they would want to ginish the stocks firsts.
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>>53152730
All the assassins give -2 to the LoS roll. He's still bad at killing IC's due to his single shot.
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>>53152716
>they're described as being proper black
that doesn't really make any sense

Salamanders and raven guard have the busted melanchromic organ that fucks their skin pigmentation up, but literally every other kind of space marine has their skin tone decided by the amount of radiation in the current area.

Is this a black library thing? Did whoever wrote the book just forget about it?
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>>53152730
I like that idea. Marines already had tac squads splitting as soon as they came out of the drop pod, or bolter marines eating assaults for the devastators in their squads. If having reserves in your army isn't a risk to fuck yourself over as bad as it is now I'd be excited.

Poor necron-bro from that one game where his tranport failed until turn 4. I felt like a dick for blowing up his robots.
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>>53152666
I wonder if the threshold for getting degraded by damage is the same as the one for not being able to hide behind units? If so, going from 10 to 11 wounds is going to be a serious downgrade and the way they are talking in the character preview makes me doubt that the writers are aware of that (Magnus is totally as survivable as Roboute, even though the latter is immune to most shooting! He's got three more wounds to keep him going!)
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>>53150424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaUi8Dv73hA
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>>53152772
It's made by ADB so make that what you will. I guess ADB meant African typed. Who cares anyway?
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>>53152730
I wonder if the term dedicated transport become bit of a misinformation if they can take whatever eligible, willy nilly.

Then again, it never made sense to me that Ork Trukks needed a photo ID verification before entering a car.
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>>53152392
10 years in the iso-cubes.
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>>53152199
t. Butthurt mechguard

I'm fine, I play blob.
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>>53152817
Hopefully GW has thought about this, and wasn't a dick by giving some things 11 wounds but either went 10 or lower or substantially more, at least for characters. Like Magnus having over a dozen wounds, not a dozen.
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>>53152836
It can make sense in things like Dropzone commander since the dropship could need to be adapted to each type of transport thingy.

Even old Turn signal on a Landraider webcomics made fun of the exclusive transports when it was a thing
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Okay /tg/ how do I avoid being THAT Eldar player?

I already avoid Wraith units like the plague.
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>>53150672
>your fetishes are shit
>amongst others, yes....
there go my sides.
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>>53152457
You, you are my nigga.
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>>53152869
Use every Aspect in one list.
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>>53152869
Currently, you can't outside of purposefully playing like an idiot.

Eldar Codex is just ridiculously efficient
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>>53152869
You can have Wraith units only if you paint them yellow and blue, by your own hand
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>>53151823
The only thing stopping me of going full melta with SoBs as part of my IG force is price of their metal shit.
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>>53152869
Hopefully liking Eldar won't automatically mean you're a dickhole after next month.

Until then, guardians, falcons, not more than a single squad of each type of aspect seems to be the most friendly you can be.
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>>53152863
I fully expect to see a bunch of units getting adjusted once the first updates start rolling out.
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>>53152836
>Then again, it never made sense to me that Ork Trukks needed a photo ID verification before entering a car.

Really? That seems like one of the more believable instances of a transport being truly dedicated to it's unit. They aren't a squad in an army riding something drawn from the motor pool, they are a tribal war-band and their trukk is literally theirs, paid for with their teef. Another mob climbing on board is practically declaring their intention to loot it.
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>>53152869
Anon all the rules change in one month
Who gives a shit
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>>53152466
Now you know how we feel about them.
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>>53152922
But that's what Deathskulls are all about ! After painting it blue ofcourse.
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I'm going to Florida.
Near of Aventura

Any recommendation of LFGS that sells GW shit and looks cool?
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if I were to get spess mereens, what chapters would I have to go to for gold
I want my guys golden
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I'm gonna make metallic purple necrons.
Is this patrician? [y/n]
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>>53152988
Don't go to Florida, it's full of fucking niggers and old people.
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>>53153013
Your toys. If you want to shove them up your ass and I would not care.

That said purple and gold would look pimping
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>>53153006
Celestial Lions, but as previous stated they're the token nigger chapter. Probably best just making up your own.
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>>53153024
I have a meeting there with the business partners. I'm traveling from SA so the fat fucks will move a bit
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>>53153006
Golden Gryphons? You could always just make up your own.
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>>53153013
I wouldn't go full purple, but they're your dudes.
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>>53151839
Jokes on them I just convert lasguns into sniper rifles with scope bits and extended barrels from my FLGS bits bin and or use the snipers from my command squads.
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>>53153006
Minotaurs
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>>53153033
Yeah, I was going to go for gold scale cloaks and the like.

>>53153085
It might end up being too rich, but I gotta try.
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>>53151878
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>>53153006
Auric Patricians. Even their name is gold
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>>53153006
like fully gold or with bits of gold?
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>>53153006
Auric Patricians, anything else is literally pleb tier.
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>>53153024
Fuck off our state is awesome!
>Who do you think stole all of California's rain the past decade?
>Our forests are full of Giant Lizards fighting boa constrictors.
>Our Phosphate literally feeds the nation and half the flyover states would be fucked without it.
>Disney World (But Busch Gardens is infinitely better than Animal Kingdom).
>Orange Fucking Juice!
>Still out of North Korea's best projected rocket range.

More relevantly to this thread, make sure you assemble your miniatures in the fall, prime them in the dry, cool winter, paint them in the spring, and play them in the summer.
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>>53153183
So any decent Store for shopping and sight seen?
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>>53152448
>Inplying GW won't just make more cheese to increase sales.
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>>53153013
We have an army just like that in our store, based in glitter no less!

I call them the Fabcrons. They fight with the Purple-and-Green Eldar over who's is the better shade of purple.
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>>53152913
> Alaitoc and Iyanden colors
Kill me now.

>>53152920
<3 falcons
I already run 2 and 2 Crimson hunters as my primary AT in my 1850 list. I wonder how they'll stand up to Annihilator Predators this coming edition.
>No more than one squad of each aspect
I already do that.

>>53152929
People who have games to play between now and 1+ months from now maybe? Like even if I'm just going to my LGS weekly that's at least 4 weeks and 4 games.
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>>53153225
GW has been notoriously bad about that in the past. Remember when they made all those new Tyranid formations and had PDFs for Maleceptors and the like, but it was all garbage?

Besides, odds are good that even if they do that, it'll be for new units and get banned within a couple months since rules aren't gonna be strictly tied to books.
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I fucking love the White Scars colour scheme and logo. Shame they're so fucking gay or I'd play them 100%

>Bikes are gay and retarded
>Gay space Mongols, retarded
>Some of them have fucking falcons and shit, gayest thing ever
>Just so fucking retarded in every conceivable way

Why couldn't they have given the colour scheme, name and logo to a decent legion/chapter? Sigh.
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>>53152270
they haven't said what they are doing to scions, ogryns, or rough riders yet. They just teased us "wouldn't you love it if these models to be useful?"
"You can trust us we are the new Games Workshop TM"

but the ratlings are cool.
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>>53153257
Shit taste, tbqh familam
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>>53153211
Unfortunately I live in the Tampa-bay area so I don't really know, but a quick google search is pretty promising, at least two Games workshops within 30 minutes of you and even more third party game stores than that. Much better than up here in the subtropics.
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>>53153257
White Scars are best when they use mechanized troops, anyways. The bike thing is just one aspect blown completely out of proportion by the fanbase, like Raven Guard with jump troops.

>not playing storm lords
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>>53153257
Why don't you just make your own successor chapter of them? Slightly alter the logo, say a blue fill on the box instead of yellow, then make them whatever you want. No bikes, no mongols, no falcons. Have them on bad terms with their parent chapter if you like.
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>>53153257
>shit taste detected.
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>>53152628
Absolutely nothing!
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How the fuck does chaos eat? Where do they build spaceships? Who makes the bullets? What kind of economy do they have?
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>>53153268
I've been playing this shit for long enough that till the big 3 are back I know it will be bad and unbalanced.

That does not mean I will not still enjoy dicking around with my models
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>>53153307
it's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit.
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>>53153307
Dark Mechanicus and Warp Shenanigans
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>>53153328
Make it real for me how does this society work?
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>>53153307
Anything, everything.

Dark Mechanicum Forgeworlds.

Depends on the group.
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>>53153307
Gaunts ghosts presents the ruinous powers in the most 'making sense' sort of way
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>>53153350
Where can I find a summary?
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>>53153347
What do chaos women do? Who is making the babes? What is their health care like?
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>>53153333
Demons and Meat Slaves work their lives away on Dark Mechanicus forge worlds.

So pretty much the same thing as the regular Imperium, except everything is extra spooky.
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>>53153380
What regular women do, which includes reproducing.

Depends on the group.
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>>53153257
>Some of them have fucking falcons and shit, gayest thing ever

Heard you were talkin' shit
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>>53153333
Whoever has the most power rules.
Typically those who have power

>>53153380
>What do chaos women do?

Whatever they can.

>Who is making the babes?

People. Sometimes the Gods, but mostly people.

>What is their health care like?

I doubt most would have any.
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>>53153393
>>53153393
So they have bankers with skulls and spikes on their brief cases making deals with plastisteel tycoons who have nipple rings and bands of chaos on their faces?
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>>53150334
You are aware that /d/ and /tg/ have some of the most overlap of any two boards, right? /d/ is basically where /tg/ puts their NSFW stuff.
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>>53153333
Say you have a typical Imperial colony, but it gets taken over by Chaos worship. This causes some turmoil as any loyalist elements are torn apart by Daemons. But say that the Imperium is too busy to respond, and some existing Heretics get there to stabalize things.

Odds are you'll end up with something similar, in function, but just twisted. Whoever rules the world is almost certainly going to be constantly competing with other Tzeentch politicians for power, with the occasional use of sorcery to get it, but aside from the constant paranoia they do want to still appeal to the public so they can have power. Other nobility simply want to relax in pleaure and excess, but excess requires surplus, so their focus is on maintaining their wealth with as little work as possible. So business as usual for them, except they're more likely to go for slavery and flaying those who disobey rather than just paying some workers to go into the mines.

Anyone particularly Khornate is going to sign up for the police or military. Brutality is going to be common there, but since most of them aren't great warriors, they won't go as crazy as berserkers and will generally live a slow day to day occasionally getting a skull for the skull throne.

And generally you'll just have more undivided people filling things out, who worship all four gods as a whole, and are relatively mentally stable. There might be the occasional mass killing or horrific thing in the streets, bt after the fun is done everyone goes back to work to make sure they can do it again next week.
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>>53153425
pretty much yeah
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>>53153425
Yep
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>>53150508

These are from Grishnak but it smells a little bit so caveat emptor and all that: https://spikeybits.com/2016/05/grishnaks-new-plastic-sister-models-we-update.html
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https://strawpoll.com/2d9aya3

Last call for votes. I'm going to get some food and call it when I get back.
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>>53152466
Lierally replace every "/pol/" with "The Jews" and you're onto something
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>>53153425
They don't have a use for bankers.
Basically powerful people just enslave the plebs by force and work on crazy pet projects.
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>>53153440
I... Um... ok. I guess. Its just hard to imagine a weird fuck up society were everything is kind of wonky and yet they are still able to compete with the imperium of man.

Its like the USSR. They could hold it together for awhile but the US pulled so far ahead by out producing them they imploded. How is Chaos going to compete for 10,000 years by being just a fucked up copy of the original?

Every other race kind of makes sense but Chaos. You can't build a society based on a heavy metal album cover.
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>>53153333
The dark mechanicus are anarcho capitalists. Everything is bought and sold.
Including people.
Especially people.
The various dark mechanicus factions build hab blocks and nutrient paste dispensers to attract cultist. By agreeing to the terms and conditions on the lease the cultists body and soul are forfeit to the Dark mechanicus assuming they can't prove more useful.
Any cultists that die early due to warp fuckery is just a projected loss and or free nutrient paste for more cultists.
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>>53153522
I am the man who arranges the blocks
That are building a highly secret base.
Hip hip hurrah for the USSR!
We are sending our men to outer space.
I work so hard in arranging the blocks
But each night I go home to my wife in tears –
What’s the point of it all, when you’re building a wall
And in front of your eyes it disappears?
Pointless work for pointless pay
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>>53153522
>How is Chaos going to compete for 10,000 years by being just a fucked up copy of the original?

Magic.
Like, gods can just decide to give you shit.
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>>53153522
The Norscans from WHFB made it work. The reality is that the marines are just what you see on the surface and that there's a decent enough network of slave labor, Dark Mechanicus favor trading and Chaos god bonuses to make it work out. The CSM also raid Imperial worlds frequently and take what they need that way.
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>>53152287
I'm not imagining an ork hearing Isha whisper the current to super space aids in his ear and being confused as fuck
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>>53153560
That makes more sense but how? How is the magic used? What kind of magic? Can they just magic up an army? What are the limits?
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>>53153560
Also time has no meaning in the Warp and for some CSM they could have literally just flown into the Eye of Terror after the Heresy and be spat out a few thousand years later with their shit intact because it's only been a few hours for them.
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>>53153411
My friend, that is an eagle.
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>>53153522
The modern Imperium is not the picture of efficiency.
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>>53153522
Chaos has thousands of worlds controlled by local chaos warlords/daemons in the warp, some even in realspace, they have socities and instead of worshiping the emperor they worship whoever their leaders want them to.

Just like the imperium they have a variety of world types and a host of options at their disposal.

The main thing that keeps the imperium from directly attacking the eye of terror is that its hard to fight hell itself, and to navigate around in.
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>>53153575
So they are like the Mongolians after the great expansion?
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>>53153560
Following chaos is retarded just like communism but even more since it adds the chance to turn into a demon cumdumpster and you won't even enjoy it

So yah Chaos is like the USSR doomed to fail. But that does not mean the Imperium is better
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>>53153543
>tfw you will never be transformed into semen cattle by a QT dark mechanicum techpriest
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>>53153285
>The bike thing is just one aspect blown completely out of proportion by the fanbase, like Raven Guard with jump troops.
And the Space Wolves and wolves, only GW are the ones who blew it out of proportion.
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>>53153582
You can summon demons, but it takes time to get a critical mass going.
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>>53153582
>How is the magic used? What kind of magic?

Any and all ways.

>Can they just magic up an army?

Yes.

>What are the limits?

Poor force projection.
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>>53153582
Physkers, Daemons, Daemon infused contrsucts, all that shit. There are pretty obvious examples in the game itself.

Plus the fact that Chaos effectively unassailable home bases and staging areas in the warp is pretty helpful. Prior to 8th you could say that Chaos has largely been fighting a guerrilla war since the Heresy.
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>>53153582
Anything from superpowers to supernatural luck to conjuring up and army.

>what are the limits
The first two require favor, how you earn it depends on the God but it's never easy. The last one only needs sacrifices, but it's uncontrollable to all but the most favored of champions.
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>>53153681
Abaddon made an entire crusade just to be allowed to suck tzeench cocks.

Chaos it is pretty resource intensive if you take that into consideration
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>>53153575
>there's a decent enough network
technically not, otherwise they wouldn't have constant supply/maintenance problems and an everpresent need to raid other societies for slaves just to scrape by

Chaos societies always kind of crutch on the whole "can't be threatened by external forces" thing. Short of other chaos factions raiding the planet and enslaving them, they're pretty much untouchable.
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>>53153606
It's not going to fit neatly into an historical Earth equivalent. There is all kinds of shit in the Eye we don't know about.

Hell Krieg seems to produce effectively unlimited from their "Vitae Womb" and we have no idea how it works, and that thing is Imperial. For all we know they could be producing gruel from the anguish or tortured puppies or some shit. The laws of physics and reality break down in the warp.
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>>53153732
There is frequent internecine conflict, it just is basically invisible to those outside in realspace.
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>>53153722
It is called chaos for a reason, the gods aren't playing a logical game.
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So, actual question.

With the currently confirmed changes, how will tyranids fare?
It seems they can't suffer more than in 7th, but do the new rules for combat, AP, shooting etc. benefit them?
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>>53153806
We don't know enough yet, but generally better than 7th.
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>>53153806
Theres so much we don't know nobody here could reliably tell ya.
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>>53153806
Hopefully warriors get the same rule as characters in that they can't be shot at if they aren't the closest thing. That in itself would damn near make nids viable. Other than that it looks like nid MCs will be getting tougher which is great.
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>>53153806
probably still shit. Can't have an npc race be better than the epic numarines anon.
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>>53153806
BATTLE SHOCKED
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>>53153722
>Abaddon made an entire crusade just to be allowed to suck tzeench cocks.
You put so much effort into making it sound ridiculous that your post lost it's meaning entirely.
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>>53153845
It's fairly obvious that horde armies are going to have some kind of compensation for battleshock. IE commissars for IG. Synapse creatures will probably perform a similar function for nids.

Plus you don't have to run hordes. Nidzilla lists could end up being great, who knows.
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>>53153845
>Implying synapse won't render tyranids largely immune to the effects of battleshock
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>>53153849
It was that thou. Not my fault.

It was tzeench favour. Not dick sucking but it is basically the same thing
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>>53151331
Personally, I like the middle the best.
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Do you guys think I will be able to safely field dreadnoughts in 8th?

They are my favorite SM unit
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>>53153257
I dunno, but it kinda sounds like you might be projecting a bit.

Also White Scars are also about dudes in Rhinos doing driveby's. Hop out, shoot the fuck out of something untill it stops moving, hop back in, move to next target.

WS being born with a bike between their legs is just a meme because WAACfaggots used WS to spam grav on bikes.
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>>53150423

So if Guillyman is Zap, yvraine is lela, who is kif?
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>>53153982
Cawl.
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So if a Leman Russ is T8 W12 3+, how durable do we predict Riptides to be? I'm guessing T10 W15 2+, with some kind of invuln at 3+ or 4+.
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>>53153982
Nah. Papa Smurf is Fry since he ends up with Leela.
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>>53150403
I always think of pic related when I think of Abbadon
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>>53150334
>Anything worse than /pol/ crossposters.
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>>53153901
In the new edition, Dreadnought have the same stats as everybody else, just like Monsterous Creatures now.
That, in combination with the new To Wound chart, means a Dreadnought could now potentially take a wound from any weapon. Though when you consider it has T7, 8 wounds, and a 3+ armoursave, it is unlikely to die to a guarsmen holding a laspistol. Or even 10 guardsmen holding a laspistol.
The new To Wound chart also means that unless the Dreadnought is hit by something with Str 14 (stats can go above 10 now btw) the best to wound roll your opponent can get is a 3+.
Weapon Skill is also just like BS now, just a fixed to hit value, which is 3+ for a Dreadnought. This means that, outside of modifiers, a Dreadnought will now hit almost anything on a 3+ in CC, just like with its shooting attacks.

And maybe the best bit : in 8th edition, large models each have their own 'damage table' worked into their profile. This is a list with which stats degrade how much, depending on how many wounds the model has remaining. HOWEVER, this is entirely absent from the Dreadnoughts profile, which means that it will keep on trucking at full potential untill it's last wound is gone.
No more Shaken. No more Stunned. No more Immobilized.
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>>53150403
delete this abbadon is cool
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>>53154069
>Breadnought

>53154071
>53154071
>53154071
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>>53154069
>No more Shaken. No more Stunned. No more Immobilized.
It just clicked with me that penitent engines won't get stunlocked anymore

glory be
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>>53154017

That surprisingly fits.

After all, Zoidberg is the best character
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>>53152730
Source?
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>>53154069
>No more Shaken. No more Stunned. No more Immobilized.
So what benefits will daemonic possession have on vehicles now, if they even have it anymore?
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>>53151930
I mean I've always been partial to hordes of dudes over tanks (and also I'm new) so I'm not overly rustled.
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Eldar will always be stronger than SM. That's what they get for being a minority.

Also, no more hitting vehicles in the flank/rear? So much for tactics.
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>>53154129
Besides eating the passengers you mean ? Who knows ? Maybe some daemon-related benefits, like causing Fear or having an Invulnerable save ?
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>>53154129
Daemonic possession now grants the fearless special rule
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>>53154069

no they havent shown the full dreadnought profile yet.

It will degrade like all the others.

Only the Morkanaught damage table has been shown.
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>>53154014
> implying riptides won't be BTFO
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>>53154129
Invuln save. Doy.
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my most recent game kharn managed to tear through a skitarii squad of 20 men, a dunecrawler and an inquisitor before being obliterated

love him
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>>53154200
But then why does the Morkanaut profile have * instead of numbers for the profile values that degrade as it takes damage, hmmm ?
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>>53154226

because they didnt want to reveal the full profile?

I dunno. Its a bold assumption to make that it wont be affected like the rest of the vehicles.
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>>53153522
They're not building a society - they're a bunch of invididual petty empires and planets in the Warp that are constantly competing with each other. Fleets of raiders raid each other as much as the Imperium.

The thing that makes them so dangerous is that they're nearly impossible to extinguish. The rare times that the Imperium tries to crusade into the Eye of Terror never works out, with whole chapters getting lost. Whatever the Imperium has can be corrupted and turned against them as well, which only makes the raiding all the more destabilizing.

It's not a matter of competition like in the sense of modern countries - you have an Imperium that is disorganized and constantly under threat from all sides, which can never gather the strength necessary to destroy the far more fractured forces of Chaos - just keep them at bay when they do unite.
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>>53151839
They've been sold out for a few weeks.
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>>53154226
Erring on the side of caution is usually better than making wild assumptions.

For all we know Dreadnauts lose weapons as they take damage, since they have so little attacks and movement to begin with.
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>>53154251
>because they didnt want to reveal the full profile?
They talked about vehicles losing movement and attacks in that same article IIRC. They had no reason NOT to include the full Dreadnought profile if it had that mechanic.
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If terminator armor only existed in the cataphractii and tartaros patterns during the heresy, why do CSMs only have access to the indomitus pattern, which is supposedly only held by Mars?
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>>53154325
tech-priests go bad too
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>>53154325
Because there have been traitors beyond those that defected during heresy, as well as the theft and corruption of Imperial equipment over the millennia.

The real reason is that the cataphractii and tartaros are more recent miniatures
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>>53154325
because idomitus pattern was also around in the heresy. all the varieties coexisted
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>>53154325
Because terminator armour wasn't only cataphractii and tartaros during the heresy. Indomitus has always been the most common and numerous type of terminator armour, by virtue of being the easiest type to produce. Which is why everybody is still wearing it 10k years later, unlike the difficult to maintain and to produce cataphractii and tartaros.

Sadly the 30k rules for indomitus are way worse than the other two, so now everybody thinks that indomitus didn't exist. Just like ppl now think that White Scars have bikes instead of hair growing on their ass.
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>>53154351
>>53154352
>>53154369
>>53154372
Okay thanks.
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Can't remember if I already shared this here, so bear with me.
Standard Bearer for my squat guard command squad. People at my local GW named him Lieutenant Dan and it stuck.
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>>53154421
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>>53154071
migrate
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>>53153183
>Still out of North Korea's best projected rocket range.
So is South Korea.
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