[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

What's the best starter bike cc range(i don''t know if this is the way you guys speak)?

100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400 or 500?

>>16387478
It varies wildly
There are 250s that have the power of some 450s
Plus weight is a huge factor
Usually just research before you buy and know youll outgrow it in a season

>>16387478
200-300 is a good beginners area.

>>16387478
>>16387488
>>16387507
I would argue it depends on what kind of bike you're buying. For sport bikes a lower size is better, shit like that

>>16387478
600-750

>>16387543
But a 250 dirtbike would be faster than a 250 sport bike

>>16387478
Displacement doesn't matter that much. Just avoid liters.

Buy a bike based on it's 0-60, 60-0, presence of shit like ABS and a slipper clutch, torque curve, wheelbase, and riding posture. Also make sure you know how to ride before buying a bike.

In other words, don't buy a straight up sport bike. Standard, yeah, sport-standard (ninja 250-650), yeah, sub-liter sport tourer, yeah, GSXR250, no.

And always fucking test ride for at least 30 minutes

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>>16387478

reminder that honda a shit

>>16387478
DR-Z400

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haven't posted in a couple months, how is everyone doing nobody is kill?

>>16390080
How is that wrong?
XR650 is already 10x better stock for stock

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>>16390075

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>>16390083

>>16390040
>You mean engines that make power?
>You mean engines that bmw uses?
Yes, exactly those

>>16390048
Comes a horse into a bar
barkeeper: why the long face?

>>16390083
Just me, on the inside as always.

>>16387478
Ez m8

650 Twin (SV650, ER6) and everything below that isn't i4 sportbike.

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>>16390092
Kek. Pic is how riding a honduh feels like

>>16390084
the only flaws of DR650 no mods, stock and only dirt-related

>ground clearance
>weight

that's it, hard enduro mod and it blows the XR650 away in any way

>>16387478
125

on a bike you want a high COG you idiots

>>16390143
lol no

>>16390120
It has significantly less power and more weight than the XR.
The XR responds better to mods
Youre delusional

>>16390143
The only one who wants a cock here is you, faggot

>>16390147
>more weight than the XR
literally said that

>>16390147
>XR responds better to mods
not much difference fully modded
also can include performance mods
it has all been done, you don't know anything about the DR

>>16387478
Sport: Sub-1000 staying off 600 and 1000 R/RR classes.
Standard: Sub-1000
Cruiser: literally anything that isn't too heavy for you to pick up if you drop it like a twat

Of course all this is relative to your own ability to respect your machine and learn it responsibly; I started on a 500cc cruiser and am now on a 1300cc that's also 50% heavier and in hindsight would have been able to handle the bigger bike from day one. I also would have probably died or crippled myself in a very expensive, embarrassing way if I'd started on a 1000cc sportbike, however, so keep your own sensibilities in mind.

I kind of want an SV650 because muh torques, but I don't want to have a meme bike. What do I do?

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Hi, I know nothing about bikes.
Parents were staunchly against dirt bikes and motorsports when I was growing up, never got to be around them.
Planning to get a license or permit for motorcycles this summer, and to buy a nice dual-sport for riding around the city and just in general.
The bike I was looking at was the Suzuki DR-400. They're pretty easy to find around where I live and I think it's a pretty cool setup.

Good idea? Bad idea? 400 too much? Suzuki a shit?

>>16390163
Everything's a meme here. Except Harley's; those are just for fags, by fags, nothing memetic about it just hard fa[g]ct.

>>16390171
Suzuki DR-400 is an excellent choice

>>16390154
Delusions run high with suzuki fags around here.

>>16390171
If you like slow, heavy bikes.
Go for it

>>16390171
Are you American?

>>16390171
Get the bandit 400
>cheap as shit
>small i4 revving to infinity and beyond
>unbreakable

>>16390171
Dual sports and supermotos are literal god tier learner bikes. itll do ya good.

>>16390204
>no lean angle
>high as fuck seating position

Frigg off Randy

>>16390198
Yes.

>>16390163
get a drz

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>>16390216
>>no lean angle
wrong
>>high as fuck seating position
lol manlet

>>16390216
I mean if you're a manlet then high seat is an issue lol

The reason they're good for learners is that they're light, fun and can take a beating. I didn't give a shit about lean angles when I started on my first bike.

>>16390219
But they're expensive as shit here and I don't need a dirt bike

>>16390163
FZ6
FZ07
FZ1
FZ09
All faster and lighter than sv650 shitbike

>>16390175
So when did the harley guys steal your boyfriend away?

>>16387466
>tfw own both pw and DRZ

>>16390269
Get a DRZ400SM

>>16390311
>tfw the pw is the better bike

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>>16390294
>doesnt mention fz8

the forgotten motorcycle

>>16390320
It is for playing around in the yard like a 12 year old retard

>>16390163
Acquire shiver

>>16390327
disregard memes

>>16390171
Get a DRZ400. Don't listen to regretful yamaha owners

>>16390171
Go for it! Drz400 great choice, handful of people here own one after owning many different bikes.

>>16390171
To avoid any regrets or toldyasos
Drz is a meme bike get something newer like (dare i say) a WR250 or a beta, husky or ktm

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>>16390224

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ignore my trip from /out/
ive got a 2007 klr 650 and after a pretty good crash during a log hop (went straight in to a tree, bent my bars broke a mirror, broke a wrist, dented my tank, and cracked my cowling, have since replaced the forks, and bars, am satisfied with one mirror)
im going to be buying an IMS tank and a new cowling, but i know the new cowling wont match my other plastics so i have two ideas
>rip off all the plastics, including the cowling, clean and sand them
>take them to a shop
>candy apple red with a good clear coat
>let the tank be black
oooor
>rip off all the plastics, including the cowling and tank (this time get it in the "natural" colour
>put a strip of tape along each side of the tank vertically
>get everything done in a nice candy apple red, no clear coat yet
>put the tank on the bike
>go to gas station, peel tape, start filling up
>every gallon, put a little black line
>once its full carefully go home
>take everything back to the shop
>clear coat
>now have fuel level indicator
inputs or advice
>pic related, bike after i got new forks

>>16390204
seconded
my regret is starting on a 1983 kawasaki ltd550 instead of buying a crf250 or dr-z400
but now ive got my klr650 and regret not getting a dr650
>>16390224
seat height doesnt matter if youre smart
>getting on
>kickstand down
>left foot on left peg
>use it as a stepping stool
>throw leg over and tip the bike, catch it on your right foot
>kickstand up
>from one foot down start rolling
but skiddums how do i stop?
>put your left foot down when youre down to first and about to stop, only have one foot down
its not hard to ride a tall bike unless you insist on flatfooting constantly, which is stupid
some of the top dirt bike and enduro riders are under 5'6'', but they dont complain about their high seats on their 300-450cc full size dirt bikes
>>16390175
i'd agree, you either have a shitbike, memebike, or fagbike, no getting around it, ever
sometimes you have all 3 at once

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>>16390311
>>16390320
>>16390325
>tfw when you had a pw when you were 6

>>16390294
But they're i4s, and I don't want to rev to 15000 to start from a red light

And the FZ6 is said to have an on off kinda throttle

>>16390432
I don't think a solid black tank would look good with red plastics.
option 2.

>>16390432
You should go where you came from

>>16390514
All of those engines are tuned for low end power you pleb. They're sport nakeds/tourers they arent supersports.

>>16390514
The fz07 is 2cyl and the fz09 is 3cyl

>>16390494
>candy Apple red
Ameriboo detected

>>16390509
seth meyers is a faggot

>>16390527
The shitty klr basically gave It away

>>16390528
But he voiced shrek

>>16390527
yeah
>>16390534
it is a POS but its my POS

>dbt use to be ruined by gs500 meme
>Now it's dr meme
Can't we have 1 proper thread?

>>16390562
>proper
start with adding a Z

tfw bent triple clamps

>>16390562
wr 125

>>16390526
wow gj correct.

>>16390729
lol ktm

>>16390729
ouch
im lucky i only bent my forks (to my knowledge, they might be bent, but i cant tell, id need someone else to ride my bike)

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>new tripfaggot

>>16390751
honduh

>>16390762
well I've attempted to bend them back and they seem pretty close to straight now. I'm going to finish putting the bike back together tonight.

A used triple tree assembly itself isn't that expensive. It will be a pain in the ass tho because I will have to change the bearing again if I buy a new one.

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>>16390787
>muh build quality
>muh reliability

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Who else /shop/ here

>>16390729
KTM has the best front brakes on the market

>>16390866
by shop, do you mean, huge faggot? i work on my own bike.

>>16390873
brembo*

>>16390873
>breaks
Ftfy

>>16390873
Do you mean front breaks?


I didn't like the front brakes on my KTM. They were mushy no matter what I did. I swapped on a master cylinder from my DRZ and it worked perfectly.

>>16390880
>SUZUKI
What do you think he meant

I've got a 2003 ZX-6R and as I've learned body positioning, countersteering, etc. my corner speed has started to increase. Is a steering damper necessary or recommended? I haven't found a consensus online on how susceptible to headshakes the 636 is. I've never noticed one but I've never really pushed the limits.

>>16390947
>>>/wsg/1407032

>>16390973
Question answered. How the fuck did he recover that?

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>>16390947

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>mfw I see people posting bike threads on /o/ instead of just asking their questions in /dbt/

>>16391270
Becuase dbt is a containment board.

Recommendation needed. So in the spring I'm considering getting an enduro. What's the best bike for under $3k? Just want basically a dirt bike that's road legal. I've been riding for a while so I don't need a baby starter bike.

>>16391329
R1150GS

>>16391348
Not really what I was going for. More along the lines of a straight up dirt bike that can have a license plate

>>16391363
DRZ400E

>>16391329
Have lots of money? Ktm
If not, drz

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how does /o/ transport doggo?

>>16391484
Oh shit it's macklemore

>>16391523
No, it's his socially retard cousin.

>>16391329
Wr450

Bent my triple clamps back. The front end seems pretty straight now but I haven't ridden it since to make sure it's 100%.

>>16391484
car

>>16391329
KTM EXC.

>>16391484
in a car because im not irresponsible.

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>>16391532

>>16391484
You got a cute doggo

>>16390415
>filename
Jesus christ anon you nearly killed my sides with that.

>>16391579
What has this goddess to do with my post?

>>16391329
WR450, unless you plan on doing a lot of road riding, then DRZ.

>>16391484
I killed my dog like 4 years ago.

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>>16391596

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>>16391654
What is your deal?

Is AAA Motorcycle worth it? It's like $35 bucks a month and they will tow =<100 miles, bring you gas if you run out, and other shit. I don't really see a reason NOT to... am I missing something?

>>16390866
>doesn't work on his own bike

>>16391736
That's a fuckload considering AAA is 70 a year for a car

>>16391739
I'm sorry, I meant $35 a year. I'm drunk don't mind me.

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Not quite weldporn, but it's fixed

>>16391738
I don't because I'm not poor

>>16391767
im not poor and i still work on my own bikes

>>16391736
>$35 PER FUCKING MONTH

Take the same money and with 2 month's worth you could buy and fill a spare gas can to lash on the bike if you're that worried/incompetent so you're never truly out and also cover the one bike tow/pickup you might ever need in your entire life. How is this even a question?

>i don't see a reason NOT to

You're retarded and retarded with money and should feel retarded for it.

>>16391784
read the correction o' triggered one.
its $35 annually

>>16391736
Get a better insurance company with roadside, costs me about 20 a year more in my premium.

>>16391329
KDX220

>>16391484
Cats>dogs

>>16391736
I have the AAA premium and use it when I get to drunk to drive home.

Just call AA and they deliver you and your bike/car home for free. It's like Uber that brings your bike home too.

>>16391774
Sure thing buddy

>>16391767
>Not dedicated enough to riding he's willing to wait days while some fat Fuck diddle dicks with his baby

>>16391842
>not having at least five motorcycles so you have to worry about one being worked on
Wew!!

I'm looking at replacing the stock muffler on my 2017 gsxr750. Most aftermarket (I'm ignoring the big brands, m4 two brothers etc) use springs to attach as well as a clamp. There's nowhere to attach the springs. Muffler runs nearly straight off the cat converter with just a short pipe coming off. Do I need to weld spring holders on? Seems counter productive to weld spring holders on instead of just welding the muffler on?

>>16390947
If you don't know if you need it or not you probably don't.

I've had no difficulties that could require a steering damper on my bike and I'm sure I go harder than you right now. (It's probably a tiny bit more relaxed geometrically than a zx-6r but still.)

I just don't want you to get into the habit of becoming a bikeochondriac and thinking something always needs changing on the bike because it's usually just you that's the problem, those tankslappers that occur in a straight line usually only happen from retards with terrible front tyres that needed to be replaced months ago or putting down high speed wheelies all wrong.

But I mean it can't hurt to put one on.

>>16391270
We really need our own board. Then you drz fags can have your meme thread and everyone else can have serious discussions

>>16391862
What about gs500, grom, ninjatuufiddy, and so on...fags

>>16390947
I would just do it, it doesn't hurt anything and while not likely, it might save your ass one day.

>>16391855
>replacing just the can without getting rid of cat
Why?
Also you can probably go without springs and just clamp it on. And no you don't want to just weld the whole thing on because sometimes you need to remove it for maintenance

>>16391830
>using AAA to take your bike and drunk ass home
That's genius, do they give a shit or are they cool with it?

>>16391880
Tell them the bike wont start. Tow truck drivers aren't mechanics and they don't do roadside repairs other than flat tires and dead batteries. They just strap it up and drive you home.

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>>16391840
different anon, but also not poor and i still wrench on my own shit.
what would you do if you're in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and your bike quits?
sit on your thumbs and wait for a tow?
is it below you to have a fundamental knowledge of how your shit works?

>>16391897
>also not poor
That's what poor people say m8

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>>16391877
Only 3 weeks old. I the long run I might replace with full system. But It would hold its value better if I could revert everything to stock if I sell it in 2 years

Muffler is one of the things that doesn't look tidy on it so I'm going to get something smaller, not expecting performance or sound gains.

It will be relying solely on the clamp since the smaller ones won't be able to be braced by the back mount

>>16391911
ok bruh

>>16391830
This is one of the best things I've read on /dbt/ in a long time. Local tow company never questioned towing me home when I needed it, they get paid by insurance company per customer so it's not like they'll reject your business

>>16391932
Stay poor bruh, stay poor

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>>16391830
holy fuck it's genius

>>16391948
stay mechanically retard bro. its ok ill charge you $200/hr to fix it for you later

>>16391968
That's fine. Enjoy your nigger job, nigger

>>16391968
>he can't afford $200/hr

wil girls finally take me seriously if I get a bike?

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Waddup faggots

>>16391984
why would i pay someone money to do something i can do while enjoying a beer in the evening?

>>16392008
no.

>>16391923
Any good can should also come with a hanger to support it where the stock one is bolted on.

>not expecting sound gains
Well guess what- It's going to be fucking loud. All aftermarket pipes, especially the small ones, are much much louder than stock.

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where did YOU ride today?

>>16392008
Only if it's a Harley. That way bitches know you're not a poorfag

>>16387466
How do I stop autistically shaking my head at bad drivers? It's becoming a problem

>>16392088
Like noticeably shaking your head?
Do it.
Dont forget to throw your hands up and/or flip them off

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>>16392066
no where, it was rainy and shitty so it didn't seem like a good time. I did get two days before today to go ride though so that was fun.

>>16392066
>tfw no good placed to ride around my town

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>>16391736
yes if you need it towed. Motorcycle tows for AAA are stupid fucking expensive if you don't have coverage. If you don't need a tow or can get a buddy to come get it for you then no its not worth

source I drive a AAA tow truck.

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>>16392088
There's two guys I regularly ride with and they both do this. I understand why they do it, but eh, just move past them and move on

>>16392093
Yes, I just feel like a complete tosser doing it. I guess if I ramp up the reaction I'll look more normie

>still doing that thing where I chop the throttle as if I'm rev matching while learning wheelies

Man old habits die really fucking hard aaaa

>>16392113
Always makes me feel good to make someone else feel like a tard

>>16390163

Shiver/striple/etc

The '650'ish middleweight class is a meme no matter what you get

>>16392120
you still can do that and keep the front up

>>16392109
does this really work:

>>16391830
>>16391888

?

>>16392133
Oh yeah, can't just hold the throttle full open, but I'm so used to just blipping for a downshift, I'm near completely closing the throttle the second the wheel starts to come up.

I need to find a good empty place to practice and drill the motion in my head

>>16392144
thats just practice, you'll learn to soften your throttle adjustments

speaking of willys, why are they so hard to learn on fucking supersports.

I know why but jesus its annoying. i want to buy a grom or a shitbike to practice on before I do them on my 600.

>>16392137
All depends on what kind of mood I'm in. if its a nice day and I'm not super busy ill fuck with it for a bit if its something simple. Easier and faster to start it and have you drive to a shop if the car can do it. I've have smacked a ton of starters and told people that was the last time its gonna start be happy where you are at when you turn it off. Here's the magic words to get a tow for AAA. "it overheated" if you say it overheated company policy is tow no matter what.

Truth is it comes down to the driver who shows up. some guys just hook and book. I have zip tied shift linkages together and all other kinds of ghetto fixes.

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>>16392175
choppy throttles, cant see past the fairing, heavy

>>16391809
faggot

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>>16392153
I'll get it down eventually, I've been on a 250 with highway gearing for a year and a half, so my first wheelie practice comes after a year of nothing but throttle blipping, just gotta practice and get the hang of wheelie throttle.

Meanwhile my brother hops on my dizzer and is doing wheelies/backing it in around the Mulholland snake, terrifying our family who took the drive to see the scenery.

>>16392175
Just bought a rt180 specifically to learn to willy. It should also be a pretty mellow winter project.

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>>16392189
ur bro sux at willys too and ur fag

>>16392187
FIGHT ME IRL BITCHASSNIGGA

>>16392211
fat*

>>16392211
Don't you bully me mister

>>16392183
also
>geared too high in first/second
>low torque peaky powerband
>front heavy
>relatively heavy overall (compared to a smaller startbike or a shitbike that most people learn to willy on)

>>16390039
>GSXR250
>no
why do you hate the best 4t 250

>>16392230
"best 250" is like saying youre going to eat the most delicious turd in the toilet.

>>16392211
>>16392220
Post superior male physique or stfu

>>16392244
>t. american with no interesting 250s

having fun on that mt07?

>>16392244
>his 250 doesn't rev to the moon and have more than 1 cylinder
Lolling at your life

>>16392247
kys fagget

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>>16392253
>interesting 250
That's like saying the most intersting herpes lump on your dads ballsack.

>having fun on that mt07?
MT07 is a pretty sweet starter bike, but no. I ride a real bike and actually have a 250 for fucking around in the dirt and in the city.

>>16392261
No, my 600 has more than one cylinder and revs to the moon. And isn't a slow pile of shit like a 250...

checkmate eurocuck.

>>16392270
MT07 is a sweet all around bike imo.

>>16392268
Excellent rebuttal, fat boy

>>16392270
>he plays the drums
I can just assume that you have zero skill when it comes to riding too then

>>16392270
I bet you like cold cocks

>>16392286
Those are a friend's.

I don't play any instruments. I have better things to do like make mad dosh bruh.

>>16392297
I bet you kiss girls don't you

>>16392297
>not grabbing dicks and dropping bricks (of money) on the reg.

Get on my level.

>>16392270

a WR is reallly the only 250 wohi buying though. The ninja/cbr/yami 250/300's are wannabe sport bikes that are terrible for learinging on and shit all around for performance.

Least with a WR you get some utility out of it, dont fuck it royally if you drop it, and can take it in the dirt.

>>16392302
I kiss ur mum on her pussay cuz i fuck her, fagget!

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Scoot scoot
Poot poot

>>16392384
>>16392384
Pffft. Like I don't let her peg me after dinner every night while looking at my drz on reddit

>>16390987
See my post here
>>>/wsg/1415103

Pretty much just put more weight on the front wheel without putting any more input on the bars.

>>16392395
Post more chink femboi boipucci

>>16390432
just pour a gallon of gas in at home

>>16392399
I know cuz when she covers your eyes im the one doing tha pounding on that boipucci, fagget!

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>>16390154
Depends entirely on which XR we are talking about

>>16392412
That's probably why I'm not sore the next day, bby dick

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>>16392404
No u

>>16390154
XR650R makes around 60whp once uncorked.

No one cares about the 650L. It's garbage.

XRR BTFO's the DR650 in every way other than electric start.

>>16392413
>look up XRR prices
>$3000
>look up CRF forks
>$400
>look up price of RT rebuild front and rear
>$1000

$4500 and you can have one of the best offroad bikes ever. Someone talk me out of this.

other than >kickstart

>>16392442
Ktm530

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>>16392442
they have auto decomp, a 3 foot chinese midget could kickstart an XR650R with their hands so long as they had the right technique.

They are unbelievably easy to kick.

Can someone red pill me on enduro bike handlebars (all the different sizes and options) and give me a good cheap place to buy them?

Thanks in advance.

>>16392442
>Someone talk me out of this
the DRZ400S exists

>>16392452
>dat (lack of) reliability
>dem service intervals

nope.pdf

>>16392458
>30 hp vs 60hp

nope.xlsx

>>16392462
Mines reliable as fug. 65,000 miles and counting. Only 4 sets of rings including the stock set. Nothing else needed.
Bike never fails

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>>16392442
A little heavy for hardcore singletrack but well suited for pretty much anything else. The CRF forks aren't even a must

>>16392474
I live in a desert state an my brother has a YZ250 i could borrow if I wanted.

>>16392472
more like 40 vs 45 hp

>>16392473
Consider an XRR could hit 65,000 miles without opening it up for anything other than valve adjustments if taken care of, and you'll understand the difference.

>>16392488
Holt fuck suzuki fags are stupid and annoying

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>all good honduhs arent being built anymore
lmaoing at their business plan

>>16392474
How fast was that and how was the ride?

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>>16392488
>DRZ
>40hp.

LOL no. Pic related.

XRR is an easy 50+whp bike.

>>16392490
Meh. Rings dont take long. KTM a beast bike and light as fug

>>16392494
>tfw have a good honda
God damn honda, can't we go back to the 90s when you made decent shit?

>>16392499
For a bike I would ride on the street i would never buy a KTM.

if I did nothing but race and spend time tearing my bike down between racing, a KTM would probably be the bike for me.


I can deal with the added weight and less overall performance for substantially more reliability. I'm not trying to win a championship, I'm just trying to have some fun in the dirt.

>>16392455
I haven't tried the XR specifically but I've had other kickstart thumpers. Even without any compression the valve springs alone made it pretty much impossible to even crank the engine by hand with the kickstarter.

>>16392457
plz halp me

>>16392496
That's stock. With the amount he was spending on the XR you could easily build a 40-45whp DRZ as well as have the suspension professionally rebuilt, revalved, and resprung.

And the XR stock isn't 50whp. It takes some mawdz to get that.

>>16392523
Fucking retard. Shut the fuck up

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>>16392513
I may or may not have been using the literary technique of "exaggeration" by saying a 3 foot chinese midget could hand start the bike.

>>16392517
no one here is going to be much help. read up online, ask on thumpertalk or just go to a shop and feel them out.
once you find one you like look at rmcatv or bikebandit or revzilla for pricing

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>>16392495
85 indicated so right at 100. It's super stable at speed even on sand.

>>16392484
Go for it dood. I back mine up with a KDX200

>>16392523
so spend about 900 on suspension and another thousand on engine mods easy ,you can have a bike that may marginally outperform an older cheaper bike that will have reliability and tractor like torque over the drz?

>>16392523
>With the amount he was spending on the XR you could easily build a 40-45whp DRZ as well as have the suspension professionally rebuilt, revalved, and resprung.

That price included revalve/spring from RT for $1000.

Uncorking them is pretty much free.

I'm pretty sure an uncorked XRR with CRF fork swap and RT tuned suspension would be a much better bike than a heavily modded DRZ with tuned suspension.

>>16392457
Basically there's 2 sizes. There's "fat bars" which are 1,1/8 inches in the middle where they clamp on then taper down at the bend to 7/8" at the grip area. Then there's normal bars which are 7/8" all the way across.
Just figure out what size your clamps are and buy a bar.

Also there's different curves/heights of bars available. That comes down to preference.

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/t/3094/Handlebars

>>16392553
What's the point/difference between normal and fat bars? Is it just a bike specific mounting consideration?

How do I determine what curve/height I like without buying out the catalog and trying them all?

What's the difference between a $30 set of bars and a $70-90 set of Protaper bars if any?

Aluminum or steel?

>>16392548
>Uncorking them is pretty much free.
99% of the XRR's you'll be able to buy will already be uncorked and typically have an aftermarket pipe.

>>16392565
Fat bars are stronger
Aluminum wont flex as much as steel
$30 bars will bend on the first crash
$100 bars will last nearly forever.
Height and curve are dependant on riding style and your height.

>>16392565
>on the street i would never bu
The cheap bars will usually be steel and the more expensive ones most likely aluminum.

The 7/8" bars usually have a cross brace to provide more rigidity and the fat bars are strong enough alone to not need them while still allowing a bit more flex which some people like.

Can't really help with the bend. What's your bike and how did you like the stock bars?

>>16392565
for most riding youll probably like a 7/8" aluminum bar without a brace, steel works too.
braced bars will transfer more shock and vibration into your arms and wear you out faster.
1-1/8 bats are generally tougher since the highest stress part is so much thicker

>>16392577
oops didn't mean to have that green stuff in there. apparently i had something highlighted when i clicked your number

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Finally, the time has come

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>>16392616
Boutta fuck this rounded out bolt up

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>>16392617
Well, at least I can get vise grips on it now

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>>16392620
jk the welded nut gave out first

>>16392017
Incorrect. Not with the big as cat converter on this thing.

>>16392624
>>16392620
why is your drz so rusty and shitty?

>>16392617
Dat marketing hype tho

>>16392640
This is a Ninja 250.

>>16392641
?
I just bought the first Dewalt on amazon prime that was brushless.

>>16392640
It got stolen by niggers

Also baird is a nigger

>>16392553
>>16392574
>>16392577
>>16392585

Cheers guys.

I'll probably go with a taller set of tapered aluminum bars. The bars on my bike are steel with a cross brace and all scratched up.

>>16392616
go sit on your dildo

>>16390562
We need a DR with a GS 500 engine for maximeme riding.

>>16392617
>Dewalt
do you hate quality or something?

>>16392648
>removed my charcoal canister and other emissions cancer
>$10k fine here in Commiefornia

>>16392656
You think I should have got a Milwaukee or something?

>>16392655
and a gsxr exhaust.. maybe a ninja shock too?

>>16392649
Fat bars are top tier if your gonna be dropping it and doing enduro stuff

>>16392660
milwaukee for sure for the brushless gear.
makita if brushed

>>16392660
>implying anyone has evere been actually charged and fined for this that wasn't a business.

Cops give zero fucks about the legality of the emissions equipment on a motorcycle. As long as it has a plate, mirror, and lights they think it's legal.

>>16387478
1000-1500

>>16392678
I know. I have heard of it happening to car people though when they go to get smogged.

>>16392109
>source I drive a AAA tow truck.

You might enjoy this forum. Amazing info lives here along with some epic recovery pics.

http://tow411.yuku.com/

>>16392685
They were retards for taking a car with emissions equipment removed to a legit smog shop.

If you're going to try to pass a car with completely buggered smog equipment, you have to know a guy or know a guy who knows a guy and have a couple hundred in cash in your pocket.

>>16392384
>I kiss ur mum on her pussay cuz i fuck her, fagget!

Congratulations! You just fellated a ghetto by proxy.

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>>16392112
stop making webms about nothing

>>16392620
Drench with penetrant and shock the bolt with a few hammer taps to vibe it so penetrant penetrates.

Use anti-seize on any fastener that doesn't get Loctite. Dry threads a worse shit than Hyosung.

>>16392731
is wd40 good for this

>>16392731
I'm just going to not fix the nut, not use antisieze or loctite, zip tie the back side of the bolt so you can't tell the nut is missing from a cursory inspection and sell the bike to some stupid kid.

>>16392660
I have Milwaukee, Makita and DeWalt and ran toolrooms with all the above. All of them work fine for hobby/light commercial use. Model is more important than brand.

If you kill a DeWalt, then get a bigger one or another brand.

>>16392748
No, but it's better than water.

Use something like Liquid Wrench penetrant. Couple squirts and let it sit a couple hours then give it a few more squirts then let it sit overnight.

>>16392751
That works too but you should fix it for practice if you don't care about it because that is far from the last fucked fastener you will encounter. Once you get gud most such tasks are easy.

If you have a straight shot through the welded fitting that bolt goes into and room on the other side you can drill the threads if they are fucked and use a longer bolt with a locknut on the inboard side.

>>16392748
Liquid Wrench, CRC or similar penetrant preferred.

The ATF and acetone mix trick works very well for people who have spare ATF laying about. Acetone is cheap at hardware stores.

I use 'em all. WD-40 is poor penetrant but wonderful for drilling, cutting and machining aluminum. Many machinists use it for that.

>>16392760
so you wait an entire day to touch every bolt?

>>16392773
I don't have a welder. I have a shoebox half garage in San Francisco, so I'm not going to buy a welder. Someday.

>>16392788
If you come across some seized or rusted bolts. You soak them a few times and let it sit overnight then attack them.

You could do it the same day but I prefer to wait and let the penetrant do it's thing instead of risking stripping or twisting the head off a bolt.

Also, don't use wrenches, don't use 12 point sockets. Use (quality) 6 point sockets of the appropriate size to break these stuck nuts/bolts loose.

>>16392795
I thought you were a big man with a high paying job.

>>16392795
How much is your rent?
>Looking at a place on 4 acres

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>>16392814
>high paying job
>rides DRZ shitbike.

>>16392795
I didn't say you needed a welder,

If you have a straight shot through that welded mount you could drill out the threads IF required AND there is room for a nut behind it.

If it's a blind hole mount and it was just a corrosion issue the threads may be good.

If they are not, post pic of fitting so I can see into the hole, and ask advice.

>>16392800
what would you do when you get the bolt out the threads on the bike are all crusty? penetrant and try to brush them?

>>16392800
Even Harbor Freight impact six pointers will do. Main thing is the six point engagement to avoid rounding soft bolt heads.

>>16392839
Yes, then finger tighten bolt to check feels. A dab of grease or engine oil or vaseline will work if you don't have anti-seize, but I suggest getting a bottle since one jug can last years and it can be used to protect futurebikes.

>>16392839
>Clean the surface with a steel or brass wire wheel (depending on material)
>Spray down with penetrant
>Blow it out until dry with air compressor nozzle
>Respray with penetrant
>Run appropriate tap through threads
>Blow it out again with air compressor.
>Run new bolt in and out of the hole a few times with finder pressure to make sure everything is kosher
>Apply anti-seize
>Reassemble and torque to spec

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>>16392849
>futurebikes.
>tfw no futurebike

>>16392859
>finder pressure
finger pressure*

so many bolt threads on my subframe are stripped thanks to the retard PO. i need to get them drilled properly, i hate all these stupid locknuts that are hard to put on.

>>16392814
Well, I do have a a high paying job.

>>16392827
$1400

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>>16392868
God damn

Makes me love the desert even more

>>16392868
damn son, i pay less for a house with two yards near seattle
>still renting though

>>16392866
>buy caliper
>buy quality drill bit
>buy tap set

>Caliper the holes to find the stock hole size.
>Caliper a few of them if they're stripped pretty bad and use the smallest measurements to determine size.
>Select the next larger size drill bit that you have a tap for
>Buy new bolts for this new size in the appropriate lengths, refer to stock bolt lengths for reference.
>Drill all the holes out to the new drill size.
>Tap the holes carefully and make sure you are true to the hole while taping
>Clean threaded holes and reassemble with new bolts

Make sure you are using metric taps of the appropriate pitch if on a metric bike. One thing i can't stand is retards who tap metric bikes/cars with "close enough" SAE thread and bolts. Most of the time it's just jamming an SAE bolt into a metric threaded hole in aluminum and cranking on it until the threads "match".

>>16392868
I pay $2600 for a house.

I was paying $1600 for a 2 bedroom apartment last year. When i lived in San Diego I was paying $1900 for a two bedroom apartment.

Sometimes i think it would be cool to live in a cheaper flyover state. But then I think of how bored I would be and how shit life is for those mudpeople and it sets me straight.

>>16392862
>radial engine
>exposed front sprocket
>meme wheels
>meme proprietary tires
>failed bobber
I'll pass.

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Looking at cbr 250r tomorrow. Who knows might have a new addition to the family.

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>>16392907
There are so many awesome "flyover states" though

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>>16392911
>beginner bike
>honduh beginner bike
>weakest honduh beginner bike
holy fuck it even has a slip on hahahaha

>>16392892
>Make sure you are using metric taps of the appropriate pitch if on a metric bike. One thing i can't stand is retards who tap metric bikes/cars with "close enough" SAE thread and bolts. Most of the time it's just jamming an SAE bolt into a metric threaded hole in aluminum and cranking on it until the threads "match"

People who do that shit should be blinded with their own severed, burning penis.

>>16392888
It has its perks. I have a dozen places to eat or get coffee within 4 blocks walking distance, and hundreds within a 10 minute bus ride that comes every 15 minutes or so.

>>16392907
This. I used to pay $375(times four) for a big two story house with a two car garage and and like an acre of yard in my old city. Was boring as hell.

>>16392917
Everything in between the Rocky Mountains and the Appalachian Mountains is shit for the most part.

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>>16392917
Now if only there was a huge state with some of the most beautiful scenery in the world, one of the worlds largest economies, a high standard of living, and a hugely diverse number of environments and climates...

>>16392942
Now if only it didn't have niggers, spics, liberals, jews and cuck tier gun laws.

>>16392951
>gun laws
everytime. literally who fucking cares?

>>16392955
I care. I own guns and I don't really care for my rights being infringed.

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>>16392934
Wow you are so right its must be a shit bike. Ill definitely go there now and buy it.
>look at me does this look like the face of fucks given

>>16392951
dont forget crippling debt, drought, corrupt politicians, insane cost of living and sky high taxes

>>16392955
anyone who understands what human rights are

>>16392966
>human rights

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>>16392942
If only that state wasn't filled with a bunch of shit people and shit laws. Then it would be a really great place to live.

With everything going on in the non-coastal west paying that kind of money to live in California isn't high on my personal list. Unless I get a job with SpaceX or something.

>>16392939
There is a lot of boring shit in the middle parts.

And honestly I can get pretty much anywhere in town in 15 minutes, in a car or on a bike, because the traffic isn't shit here.

>>16392951
>niggers
Stay out of LA and Oakland. Crisis averted.

>spics
Cheap labor and good food. What's the issue?

>liberals
The majority of the state area wise is pretty conservative. It's only the Bay area, Sacramento, and LA that is predominantly Liberal.
San Diego and Orange county are pretty conservative counties, urbanized, and have huge earning potential and economies.

>jews
I can't remember the last time i actually met a jew in the wild.

>cuck tier gun laws
>actually following retarded gun laws.
I own and regularly shoot 49 state AR's with 30 round magazines and evil pistol grips all the time. I even own some undisclosed NFA items via trust. Carry laws are actually pretty good in most of the state too.

>>16392991
>traffic
you know you're on dbt right? there is lane splitting in california

>>16392991
>traffic

Traffic doesn't exist for bikers in California.

>>16393000
Lane splitting in heavy traffic is still slower than driving/riding in free flow.

>>16392991
SpaceX doesn't even pay that well though

every gun owner i've ever met is a fucking imbecile trying to play army and always talking about muh rights. going shooting is a dumb fucking hobby and you can still get a pistol in ca if youre a home invasion bitch. i know a gun owner who shot a hole through his tv and a shared wall into his neighbor's bedroom. yes, please stay out of california, retards.

>>16393016
the point is you brought up no traffic and everything 15 minutes away. the same can be said about ca for bikers.

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>>16393032
But there is still traffic. Filtering through traffic is better than sitting in traffic, but still slower than if there were no traffic.

>>16393017
The job satisfaction might be worth it.

>>16393017
SpaceX pays pretty decent and offers (forces) you pretty much unlimited overtime.

They have a huge turnover rate though due to the work conditions. People get burned out.

Even their entry sheetmetal worker technicians make like 60,000 starting. And then they work like 30 + hours a week in overtime.

>>16393016
But it's not like you can get rid of heavy traffic

Every faggot in the world has a four door sedan with enough boot space to fit a decent TV even when they're a single person who maybe has one passenger at a time at most, and most of them accelerate very slowly

Those people are not going to be replaced with drivers of compact cars that floor it when possible. Ever.

klx250 sumo. how would it fare on the highway? better, worse or the same as a road 250?

>>16393042
I have heard that as well, although I hear that about most of the big corps, especially Amazon.

>>16393043
I have sat in traffic once in the almost two years I've been here, and that was because a truck with a big camper rolled and blocked the entire highway. Even rush hour here is like down time in most "big cities"

new
>>16393059
>>16393059
>>16393059
>>16393059
>>16393059

>>16393057
Yeah, Amazon, Apple and Google all get shit on here. Startups are where it's at, shit's amazing.

>>16393037
I filter through traffic every day at 65-70mph.
I would otherwise cruise on the same freeway without traffic at ~70mph.

It takes me the same time to get to work on the weekend without traffic as it does during the week with traffic on my bike. (~20 minute commute on the 210)

In CA we have nearly an entire dedicated lane for bike splitting in the #1 carpool lane divider which is a double yellow. And most cager commuters know bikes are coming through so they hug the far left of the #1 lane, you could drive a car through the space left.

All you typically have to worry about is the occasional idiot sitting on the divider and the opening where cars can go in/out of the carpool lane.

>>16393057
My little brother is a warehouse division supervisor for Amazon. He works 7 days a week most weeks.

>>16393021
The problem is that you're talking to people who are obsessed with guns who are also californians. That's at the intersection of dumb and retarded.

Just owning a gun isn't a black mark on anyone. You have your "hunting is a sport" faggots who go on and on about their well kept winchester, you have your "teh man is after meh" faggots with their collection of slavshit, and then you have the other 99% that just owns guns because they come in handy, usually whatever guns they ended up with, sometimes the nicest shit they could get when in the mood to buy a gun (aka AR15s)

So, anyways, about the guns california doesn't allow. A deer tag is like $20. A whitetail buck is around 150lbs, maybe 110lbs of edible meat (including choice organs) after preparation. Tell me, where can you get 110lbs of meat for $20? Retail pork costs $4 a pound. Now tell me, why would you cripple yourself with a "sporting" rifle when you could use an "assault" rifle that makes it easier to collect your food and complete the pest control task assigned to you by the state when you were issued your tag? Let me guess because killing animals is a "sport" to be enjoyed and made difficult and not a grisly job done to ensure the prosperity of yourself and the ecosystem as it is with humans filling in for all the wolves we can't get along with? Tell me about your gold plated winchester 30-ayt-six.

>>16393021
>some retard on the internet trys to dictate what is a "dumb" sport for everyone else.

You're an idiot. just because you want to abandon your rights and don't like guns doesn't mean other people aren't so quick (or so stupid) to abandon their own rights.

>>16393037
Yeah but they work your ass into the dirt.

>>16393042
That's interesting because I've heard from my instructors that people who have graduated from my school are only making around 22 an hour there. (A&P tech)

>>16393114
>only making around 22 an hour there
>tfw make more than that here
Welp there goes the pipe dream, back to hoping for a Northrup, Lockheed, or Boeing job after I eventually go to school

>>16393114
>That's interesting because I've heard from my instructors that people who have graduated from my school are only making around 22 an hour there. (A&P tech)

The place to work on aircraft for a career is the Air Force, then do a second career in contract maintenance, AFETS, or work for a manufacturer. You can just retire young and never have to work again. I did and I don't have to though I've done work and school for fun. If you get a degree, become a maintenance officer who actually knows how to work on aircraft. I retired enlisted but of course officers make more money. I worked avionics, engines, was a crew chief and got my AMT ticket while I was in. Would do again in a fucking heartbeat. I haven't felt a Recession since 1981 which is also nice.

>>16392649
make sure your clamps will fit a fat bar

>>16391830
>just call alcoholics anonymous