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[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

Historical hooning edition.

>Motorcycle Questions & Answers
>Motorcycle Routes & Meetups
>Motorcycle Gear & Accessories
>Motorcycle Adventures & Blog Posts
>Motorcycle Pictures & Fun Webm

VOTE SEM LOCATION (UP TILL 30/12/2016)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdYldJ_b_Ef-i81_w_iisNgS3LVnJIT_5Lu86ddiez8olTZHQ/viewform

>/dbt/ map
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?msa=0&mid=z7CKLSFiJH_M.kMZoQpBOKipI

>Motorcycle Ergonomics Simulator
http://cycle-ergo.com/

>Noob? Read this:
>>10361928

>Webms with sound
>>>/wsg/1407025

>Previously on /dbt/
>>16382890
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what do you ride and how many miles are on your bike?
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YAMAHA A SHIT
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repostan

Honda CB600 F PC36 (carbed) or PC 41 (EFI)?
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>>16385822
No worries man I did the same after a lowside at the track (I was scraping pegs but so I wanted more clearance anywho) just letting you know they'll be far smaller than your stock footpegs so you need to work way harder to use them and extract stability and grip from them with your feetsies
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xth for Grom a shit
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reminder that you don't need ear protection if you ride a single cylinder bike
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DT 125 R

best

125
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>>16385831
BMW F650
12k kms
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>>16385831
>AT
1300 miles
>dr650
12k
>xr400
1200 and some change
>klx 125
unknown
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>>16385831
SV650S

57,000 kms
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>>16385831
Your mom, she has no odometer.
All of us ride her erryday so it would be high milage.
She did get resleeved last year.
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>>16385818
Do the map niggers actually update anything anymore?
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>>16385831
FZ-09 with 4500 miles on it
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>>16385855
the KTM dude died in the Berlin attacks
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>>16385831
DL1000
250000km
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>>16385855
did they ever?

who cares nobody uses it to find other riders and such anyway
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>>16385831
13 cbr600rr 1200 miles only had for 3 months
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>>16385855
Just make a new one and post it here.
That usually motivates him to add people.
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>>16385859
proof nigga
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i see ze germans are rigging the SEM poll again.
just like they tried to do last year.

>50% of the options are germany
>poll results not visible
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>>16385831
Honda NT650, 55k miles
FZ8, 20k miles

>>16385836
Noted. I got big feet so I took up room on the stock pegs as well as my other bikes aftermarket pegs. I'm used to it.

>>16385766
Whats wrong with aftermarket signals you pleb? especially ones with daytime running white LEDs, they're better.

>>16385813
Muh radius.
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>>16385862
>less than 100 miles a week
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>>16385831
VTX1300, 28755mi but only the last 7k are my own.
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I posted this in the last thread and subsequently forgot I posted so I'll post again.

I went to the dealer again today and I sat on some bikes
Compared to my CB250, they were all so much bigger. Even the CB500f seemed gargantuan compared to it

Are these bikes actually that much bigger, or is the CB250 just a really small bike?

>>16384222
>>Cycle ergo.com m8. But most new begginer bikes are made bigger so that cucks buy them and tell other cucks that they ride a 600.

I meant more in terms of actual physical size. My CB250 feels very small and light. It's not that I can't flat-foot a CB500F, but compared to what I'm used to, it feels like I'm sitting on a damn harley and it's only a 500CC engine

>>16384224
>The CB500F is small and very easy to ride.
see above regarding size. I hope it's easy to ride, but it seems like it'd be a bit cumbersome compared to my CB250. It's still my #1 contender for my next bike
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>>16385876
Even less than that had 250 on it when I bought at the start of winter so it's been cold and rainy most of the time. Will.rack up miles once spring rolls around and I can just ride it all the time to work and for funzies
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>>16385861
>nobody uses it to find other riders and such anyway
I have, got an excellent rimjob and a blowjob from that guy on the gold coast.
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speaking of the CB500F, can I get rid of these things?

or would that be a bad idea
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>>16385895
CTA pls
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>>16385866
You must be new. He posted the two clusters ages ago. The gen1 v-strom odo only went to 199999 and doesnt tick over any further.
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>>16385831
About 9,000 miles.

>it's a Russian piece of swag
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>>16385901
If only. I would be honored to have tributed that sexy mumma.
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>>16385898
better off just getting rid of the whole thing mate.
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>>16385877
Vtx you say? Got pics
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>>16385831
05 drz400sm
22000 miles
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>>16385910
What year is that Ural?
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on second thought maybe the cb500f isn't a good fit for me
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>>16385939
help I can't breathe
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>>16385929
2006.
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>>16385961
Give it to me straight Doc, do Urals break all the fucking time or not? Because I really want a sidecar rig.
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Why's everyone so autistic about putting an HID in anyways? Do you guys not like superior lighting?

http://www.bkmoto.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=148&search=fz8
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>>16385971
It cost money and dbt is poor
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>>16385966
Mine has been fine. If you buy one, either buy brand new and ride the shit out of it for two years (during factory warranty) to work out all the kinks on their dime, or buy a used with decent mileage so that all the kinks have been worked out. A 3 year old bike wth low miles and a great price screams problem.

Ultimately I think it boils down to preventative maintenance, and this requires more of that than a jap bike. Sometimes nuts wriggle loose and, if not caught, can lead to problems. Be prepared to learn how to do some wrenching yourself because it's unlikely that a local bike shop will know how to work on a Ural.
It's a fucking blast to drive, I get smiles and thumbs up from soccer moms, Somali immigrants, black guys white guys old guys...
everyone loves a sidecar. Plus you can ride it in the snow
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>>16385881
250's are fucking TINY, that feeling you're having is normal. My first bike was a 440lb 500cc cruiser which I thought was small but one time I sat on a Ninjette for giggles and the thing legit felt like a Power Wheels toy.

>>16385957
Neither can I, my fucking sides are gone after seeing this image m8

>>16385922
Pic related, gotta get some better ones or at least the ones my friend took a while back and maybe see about webm-ing a time lapse he made of that same ride. Are you a fellow VTXfag, perhaps the guy here with the silver one?
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>>16386005
Yep
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nice donorcycles all y'all have there
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I think the forks may be bent on my CBR. I finally got the top triple clamp to break free of its corrosion but things still don't want to line up right. If I find out my frame is bent I'll have to ride off a cliff.

>>16385831
>2003 KLX400
About 20k miles
>2001 CBR600F4i
About 30k miles
>2004 450EXC
Unknown total miles but I've put about 1200 on it myself
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>>16385905
a few years have gone by..
it does a bit, theres a guy who is over 400k miles now on his. original dash died at 205k not sure if hes on his third yet or not. but he also isnt a dbt anon
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>>16385834
FI is always the correct answer.
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>>16386027
dat F4i

:,(
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>>16386073
why is everyone on those bike's nuts. They look like every other old 600
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>>16385986
That's awesome man, more pics please
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>>16386073
That seat looks nice and comfy.

>>16386083
It's just a good bike.
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I want to get rid of the ugly fender/license plate/turn signals/brake light on my bike.

The aftermarket fender eliminator/tail tidy kits are like $100-150.

It seems like I could fab the simple brackets and source my own turn turn signals and brake light for a total cost of ~$20.

Anyone have a legit reason why I shouldn't do this?
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>>16385971
Put in the proper reflector and autoleveling. It's fine.

But slapping in a HID to a standard refector is for shitcunts.
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>>16386027
also how often do sportbike frames actually bend? Is there any way to tell when it does? I don't see any indications of frame damage other than a couple wear marks where cables have been rubbing it.

Also do triple clamps ever bend?
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>>16386021
Nice saddlebags. Any thoughts on getting a 5 gallon jerry can for spare gas on longer trips and strapping it to the sissy bar/passenger backrest or something? On the very back or more securely sitting on the seat itself like a passenger would be fine since I wouldn't be 2-up on the kind of trip I'm thinking of; I've never used one and my main concerns would be tightly securing the weight when full and not leaking/sloshing like some of the shitty plastic cans do.

Eyeballing a few cans around here since if I did go for a road trip in the coming spring/summer it would be nice to more than double my range from any one fuel stop.
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>>16386098
Keine abe
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>>16386061
y?
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>>16386098
The cheap chinkshit lights you find online are so dull they are barely visible. They also generally don't last long or hold up to impact, vibrations, or water very well.
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>>16386083
Honda took the 600F4, an already fast and bulletproof bike of the time, and added fuel injection, more power, and made it look better.

I remember when I first saw it on the cover of my dad's Motorcyclist magazine in 1999 fell in love with that bike. It was my first bike about 5 years later.

They are fantastic bikes. Motors and transmissions are bulletproof, guys have taken them north of 300,000 miles on the stock motor with normal recomended maintenence. And they still pump out right around 100whp which is still competitive with bikes in the same class today.

The frames are near unbreakable and they are sought after bikes by the stunting community because of this. Pretty much every major stunter has a F4i practice bike or just flat stunts an F4i.

They are super cheap now.

They were sold at the same tim as the 600RR until 2006 and were still the better option to buy unless you planned on tracking the bike.
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>>16386109
when you crash hard.
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>>16386124
>t. honda shill
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>>16385831
05' CBR600rr
Roughly 28k miles on it. It had around 20k when I bought it 6ish months ago.
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>>16386124
>100whp
That's not quite true tho. They put about 90 to the wheel. Maybe 100 at the crank.

But yeah it's a very sought after bike. It seems like most people preferred them to the RR.
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>>16386119
>thinks china made products are inferior
>90% of his trailer is made in china

I had ebay led blinkers on my previous bikes and they held up just fine in cold and rainy weather.

>impact
>thinks oem blinkers will hold up in a crash
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>>16386139
I've tried various ebay lights and none of them have been near as good as OEM in terms of visibility, fit, or durability. If you must both cheap out and get rid of your stock fender assembly then just remove the plastic piece, glue the original tail light to the bottom of your blue fender, and move the turn signals up to the number plates.
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>>16386111
Thanks man. They've held up pretty good. That would def be a good idea. I usually hit around 145 miles before I gotta switch to reserve. But when I do longer road trips I hop on my other bike. More miles to a tank and a gas gauge.
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>>16386118
No fucking with a carb, it always works no matter the weather or temperature or altitude, no fucking with a carb, generally better performance in all conditions, no fucking with a carb, bike fires up first try regardless of conditions.

>>16386134
Saying good things about a good bike is shilling a manufacturer.

You are the cancer that is killing /dbt/

>>16386136
F4's put out over 90whp. F4i's put out even more. 95-100whp.
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>>16386164
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>>16386119
I've never had any issue with chinkshit LED blinkers I've bought off ebay. Typically as bright or brighter than OEM and quality enough to survive on my bike for years without issue wet or dry.

I dont see any reaon why you couldn't build your own tail tiddy.
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What would be a good bike I could gift to my wife's son? I ride a harley, but he said he isn't into that
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>>16386172
please post a link because I've never gotten any very bright chinkshit other than this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GJGCR9U
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>>16386164
but there's like a 2000€ price difference between the two :( fml
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>>16386177
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>>16386169
pic related.

blurry but 97whp from the F4i
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>>16386169
714 area code == California model
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>>16386187
lol is that the XB9 making only 70hp? pls tell me it's not the 12
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>>16386187
>has even less power down low than an r6
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What oil and brand oil filter do you guy use? I get false neutrals with t6 and want to switch to a different brand.
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>>16386187
are these all stock?
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taught my buddy to ride today and he popped some babby wheelies
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>>16386202
OE or purolator for filters
castrol actevo for oil
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>>16386202
You sure it's the oil brand causing that? Make sure your lever is adjusted right and you are pressing it all the way.

I use the Quicksilver synthetic oil I find at WalMart.
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>>16386202
Odd, T6 made my false neutrals go away. Also cured the clutch lifter noise on my Copcycle
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>>16386202
it's not the brand, it's the actual oil you put in
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>>16386200
>dyno graphs are the end all be all for the quality and merit of a motorcycle.

Who cares. the F4i is a fantastic all around motorcycle. And they last forever.

>>16386206
Yes, that's the middleweight streetbike comparo from the October 2006 issue of Sport Rider.


Also of note is that was a 2006 version of the F4i which was supposed to have a more restrictive exhaust than the earlier (pre banana seat) versions.
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So when do the manufacturers generally announce their new/next bikes
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>>16386202
Yamalube 10-40
Yamalube filters.
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>>16386221
I read that the euro models with a split seat had a different cam than the banana seat models. Is that true for the US as well?
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>>16386202
>false neutrals having anything to do with the oil you use

you can't make this shit up
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>>16386225
At the Intermot and EICMA shows
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>>16386233
I'm not sure.
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>>16386236
>oil has nothing to do with how your oil bathed transmission works
you cant make this shit up
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>>16386236
if he's a cheap american and uses car oil then that may very well be the case
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https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1oj47bRZbrx_S90yYhJbFvVxC-xQ&usp=sharing


NEW

MAP

LADS


Get yourselves added to find other anons for bike fun


https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1oj47bRZbrx_S90yYhJbFvVxC-xQ&usp=sharing
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>>16386202
Maybe try shifting your bike right
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>>16386251
You are just gonna make that australian ktm fag have a spergfest.
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>>16386263
Should have been on top of adding people to the map then hey
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>>16386202

I used to get false neutrals with my 02 and 06 R6 when I used T6. I'm currently using an oem ducati filter and shell t4 15w50
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>>16386251
you the one doing the adding?
delete the WR400 in washington
that bike is gone and been replaced a while ago
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is this a good beginner bike?
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>>16386274
>non radially mounted brake calipers

sorry no
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>>16386274
mileage sucks but its very smooth
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>>16386219
>>16386271
>>16386202

Ok I'm an idiot, it was T4 that cured my clutch/shifting. I've never tried the t-6, which is full synth and therefor far too expensive for my tender wallet

On your advise, I won't be trying T6
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>>16386272
Yeah, figured it'd be nice to sort again

It's gone
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>>16386288
but t6 is like $15 per gallon or something.
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>>16386200
That's not an R6, it's an R6S.

The R6s was tuned for a more livable low-midrange than the R6. Those year R6's were gutless below 6000rpm, that's why they added the YCCI to the 2008 R6.

The R6S was a completely different bike based on the previous generation.
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>>16386277
Radially mounted calipers only matter if you ever intend on changing brake rotor diameter, Which no one but racers do to tune brakes for specific tracks.

Radial mounted calipers are useless "racer tech" which has no actual impact on performance.

Try again.
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>>16385843
Just bought a beat up 1999 rt180 for a winter project. Pretty excited.
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>>16386297
>tuned for more livable low-midrange
>still more power than Honduh
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>>16386291
sweet, and can you add the Africa twin, ive got an xr400 and dr650 as well to renton WA?
i can post pics if you want for the other bikes too
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>>16386294
t4 is $14, t6 is more like $30
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>>16386304
same with inverted forks. They're just a marketable feature that normies eat up
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>>16386304
>he doesn't have radial brake calipers

how does it feel knowing you will never brake as hard as me?
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>>16386313
Yeah sure, post the other bikes and I'll get them on
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>>16385862
Christ, I got my bike brand new 3 weeks ago and I've almost done more than that
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>>16386326
danke m8
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>>16386317
How are USD forks worse than standard forks.
And even if that's the case, you can bet your ass any actually good suspension will come as USD for the reason you described, so there is still no reason to buy a bike with conventional forks.
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>>16386326
>>16386336
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>>16386322
[citation needed]

Radial only helps with caliper distortion
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>>16385831
2016 GSXS-1000, 6000miles. Had a back injury and haven't ridden in almost 2 months
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>JDM bro
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mcd/5931405785.html
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>>16386322
Damn you are dumb. The only difference between radial and standard are the mounting points.
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>>16386344
not him, but all USD forks I've ridden have far more sticktion than conventional.
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>>16386346
Want any contact info on there?
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I see all these new motorcycles with dials on the front brake, obviously to adjust how it feels, but what does it actually do/feel like?

I've fucked around with them (haven't actually ridden with one yet) but it just seems like iit makes the brake very sensitive and t'd make it very easy to accidentally a stoppie
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>>16386358
i suppose that might be helpful to put there
[email protected]
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>>16386358
Just add the local glory hole, please.
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>>16386348
>>16386355
as your calipers distort I will continue on pressing harder and harder, sailing past you up the inside of the braking zones, my superior upside down forks flexing less under the extreme braking forces allowing me to nail the apex within a millimeter of the paint, within 3 corners I am a speck in your vision, within 3 minutes I have lapped you.
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>>16386364
It adjust the lever distance from the bar.
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>>16386149
>145mi before hitting reserve

On how many gallons? I ask because the absolute max I ever fit in the bike (from so empty it was trying to stall out in motion while on reserve) was ~3.8 gallons despite the tank being rated at about 4.8 gallons. Depending on various factors (revving, windshield, tire pressure, city or highway riding, etc) I get between 36-41mpg so in theory even on that my range should be about 150miles but I generally consider 140 to be the "be ready to get off and push beyond this" line to safely account for the variance. It would be nice to get that much and THEN hit reserve rather than running on reserve by default and watching the miles carefully after 110.

The only obvious work done to the bike that I can think would affect the mileage/range is that it does have Vance&Hines exhaust pipes, no clue about any carb work or rejetting/adjustment or if it was even necessary for those pipes. Thinking of copying a DIY airbox cover mod that will look neat if nothing else but the intent would be to improve air intake (still going through the air filter, naturally), when I changed the spark plugs a thousand miles ago or so the old ones looked like it might have been running a bit rich so maybe extra air/leaning it out a bit will improve the mileage.

If it matters I tend to cruise at ~70-80 when I'm on the interstate.
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>>16386364
You mean on the lever? That just changes how close the lever is to the grip when the brakes come on.
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>>16386370
No. You are bumb as fuck.

They are still juice brakes and conventional performs exactly the same as radial.
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>>16386344
Not saying USD forks are worse but being upside down alone has little to no benefit.
Well basically the only "benefit" of USD forks is being more rigid. That's not even really a benefit for most people. I can understand why racers would want a rigid fork so they can feel the road better but the flexiness (if any) can make the ride a lot less harsh.

And USD forks, especially the early ones, had a lot of trouble actually dampening and absorbing bumps as well as late model right side up cartridge forks. Basically having the outer tube on the bottom allowed the fluids to gather where it would work best for absorbing shocks.
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>>16386378
>>16386374
Wouldn't that change how hard it actuates the brake though? Or is it completely independent of that?
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>>16386379
>conventional performs exactly the same as radial.

then why do the fastest bikes in the world all have radial brake calipers?

could it be? that you are totally full of fucking shit?
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>>16386385
No. It just moves the lever in or out.

You may find that you are able to squeeze better/easier at whatever position and as such it seems like it makes them actuate harder.
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Daily reminder that any linear improvement to the motorcycle with no downsides is bullshit because /dbt/ can't afford them, this is as good as motorcycles ever got.

Everything is a meme but this.
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>>16386390
because the fastest bikes in the world are funded by manufacturer race teams. They put all their gimmicky technology on the track bikes in order to trick sheep like you into buying it.

Braking potential of superbikes is only limited by weight transfer making the bike flip to the front. The only way to make them capable of braking harder is to move more weight lower or to the rear.
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How do you find fellow bros to ride with? I've seen 2 other people out riding dual sports but I can never catch anybody when I'm actually out riding. Feels bad :(
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>>16386390
Holy fuck you are retarded.

Radial and axial perform exactly the same. Radial will have more even pad wear due to less flex. Thus giving longer pad life.
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>>16386406
expansion chambers are a meme bruh
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>>16386409
>>16386407
>I know more than motorcycle engineers because I can't afford nice brakes
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>>16386406
What bike?
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>>16386406
that expansion chamber is a gimmick. They provide no benefit yet weigh more than a straight pipe
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>>16386408
find local riding groups.
facebook, advrider or thumpertalk are all good places to look

where you located?
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>>16386413
>im a retard who hasnt even researched shit.
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>>16386408
Where are you?
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>>16386413
Show us where the difference between axial and radial is except for the mounting points.
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>>16386421
>radial brake calipers wear pads more evenly and have a far stiffer and superior feel but it doesn't REALLY matter because I don't have them.

Let me guess, fuel injection is a meme and carbs are better because so easy to fix amirite?
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>>16385817
But that's a 458, which has an engine that is a piece of art and makes noises that excite me sexually, not a goddamn cheaply-built, obscenely overpriced shitcycle that just goes BLAKKA BLAKKA BLUGA BLAKKA and makes 15HP and 10 torks at 2000RPM with a 3000RPM redline.

>South Beach
Nah, I'm visiting Pensacola because my senpai lives there.

>realize I could've ridden V-Stronk here from Iowa
The first couple hundred miles would've sucked because cold, but I should've bought heated gloves and warmer boots months ago. I'd be scared that there would be a blizzard all the way down to St. Louis, MO as I was on my way home, though.
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>>16386408
San Angelo Tx
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>>16386375
The owner before me did a bit of work to the carbs. Can't remember what all he did cuz I'm old and forgetful, but I know the bitch had been covers in ice and didn't have to the choke on it. I ride it kinda cunt like in traffic but usually don't haul ass on the highway. Usually do 65-70ish. I'm boring and have only takin it up to about 120 ish. I don't think there was much after that lol
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>>16386384
I don't know man, what about all those ZRX1200 owners that fitted fork braces because their stock forks are complete spaghetti?
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>>16386417
>>16386411
>4 stroke fags
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>>16386434
>San Angelo
Pipeliner detected.

>>16386432
>senpai
Meant my f a m i l y.
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>>16386251
Sent an email if you actually the anon who adds people
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>>16386414
TM125
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>>16386442
there are good conventional forks made for performance and there are bad conventional forks made just to be cheap. (some people still swap 98 RM250 forks onto modern enduros for example, also pic related)

There are good usd forks made for performance and there are bad usd forks made to be cheap while still having the "USD fork!" marketing point
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>>16386429
And they have the same performance.

Meme away
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>>16386457
>there are good conventional forks made for performance
On new bikes? I'd be surprised.
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are torque wrenches really necessary
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>>16386390
Radial allows for easy swapping of brake disks, as was covered earlier.

Also, try not being such a sucker for marketing
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>>16386460
good to see my prediction is 100% accurate

gs500 owners baka
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ITT: idiots with radial calipers that still have axial master cylinders.
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>>16386474
For engine reconstruction, yes.

Personally I am a stickler for torque specs because its been drilled into my head at school.
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>>16386479
Good to see you memed away like I predicted.

Please show us these massive differences in performance you claim.
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>>16386474
yes.
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>>16386485
alright that I can understand

does replacing a clutch count as engine rebuilding
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best place to buy oil cheap? i need 20w50 synth, dont really care about brand. ebay has a quart of castrol power for $10. should i start buying in gallons?
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>>16386494
Snap off a clutch cover bolt and you might think so.
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>>16386488
take a good look /dbt/

this is what somebody who thinks radial calipers aren't worth it thinks like.

What else is a meme, o great one, liquid cooling? 6 speed gearboxes, non damper rod forks? monoshock?
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>>16386466
no, because USD forks sell better. But good conventional forks still exist.
People just act like all right side up forks are spagheti-tier shit used only by plebs when that's not true. There is realistically little difference in ride quality based solely upon which side of the fork is up top. The REAL difference is sales. Manufacturers found USD forks sell better even in cases where they fucked them up and they ride worse than the rsu forks.
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>>16386504
LMAO

Nice proof. Oh wait you have none.
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>>16386483
>mfw using a radial master cyl with axial calipers
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>>16386504
Are you a motoGP racer?
That's about where you will only notice the difference between axial and radial.
But please continue to display your ignorance.
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>>16386494
I'd follow the torque specifications in the manual when handling the clutch. That's an important part of your bike.
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>>16386474
Craftsman 47713, 2% accuracy, US made by Western Forge. $17.45

No excuse not to have one
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>>16386504
We are all looking at you and waiting for you to produce proof of your claim.
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>>16386518
>2% accuracy
piece of shit
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ITT: boiracer wannabe ATGANFI
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>>16386505
>People just act like all right side up forks are spagheti-tier shit used only by plebs when that's not true.
It is kind of true on new bikes. I acknowledge that there isn't much inherently better about USD forks but no way will I buy a recent bike with conventional forks, because they sure as hell won't be good ones.
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>>16386494
The clutch cover on SOME bikes will leak if the screws aren't torqued to similar values. Others, it does not seem to matter. And some bikes strip the threads easy.
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Hey guys I dont know anything about motorcycles but I always wanted one since I was a kid. Is there any links or websites I should visit? Any pro tips?
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>>16386529
new bikes can also come with garbage usd forks, pic related
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>There is no increase in braking power with a radial setup versus a conventional rig. Rather, the lack of torsional flexing (lateral movement) means crisper-feeling brakes at the lever.
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>>16386536
Ask this guy >>16386504
He knows everything.
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>>16386518
alright that's not a bad deal. Better safe than sorry.
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>>16386542
(RSU => shit forks) <=/=> (USD => good forks)
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>>16386536
>>10361928
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>>16386552
english motherfucker
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>>16386523
Perhaps you prefer Snap-on, at 4% (when it's not 6%, or maybe 20%)
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>>16385831
KLR 650
110,000 kms
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>>16386553
tldr don't start on a literbike. now pls post something more useful
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>>16386504
What? He asked you to show the differences.
Why can't you?

Have a good look at this guy /dbt/. He memes away when he knows he has dun goofed.
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>>16386556
Saying that new RSU forks are shit is not necessarily equivalent to saying that new USD forks are good.
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>>16386558
Nice cherry picking. Clickers arent the best thing to compare a deflection beam against.
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>>16386564
it was memeposting all along you fuckheads.

>>16386274
>>16386277

there is nothing /dbt/ will not respond to.
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>>16386563
>>10361928
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>>16386576
>I was only pretending to be retarded
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>>16386553
Thanks mate
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>tfw your semi-obscure shitbike has no real tutorials for any common maintenance tasks

come on man I just wanna clean my carb
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Who can guess what it is
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>>16386600
a motorcycle
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>>16386594
>remove whatever it takes to get to carb, probably fuel tank
>remove throttle cables
>remove carb clamps
>remove carb
>remove float bowl
>spray carb cleaner through jets
>reassemble
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>>16386600
If 4chan would let me view the fucking image I'd make a guess.
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>>16386594
What bike, m8?
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>>16386600
strap on bracket
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>>16386612
cb250 nighthawk.
I'm looking for tutorials on the Rebel since they use the same engine but the pickings are still slim

>>16386607
well, I at least know the basic process
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>>16386573
Snap-on's dials are 2%, which matches the Craftsman. Their "techwrench" is 2%clockwise and 3% counterclockwise. These are in the $500-$1100 range. Or you could spend $18 on a 2% wrench for infrequent use.
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>>16386164
Fucking with the carb is usually far cheaper and less of a hassle than and EFI issue, albeit more commonplace. Carbed bikes are also a bit more forgiving for straight line wheelies and are a bit easier to keep up. EFI is generally better for stunting in the long run since you can pick the bike back up right away and don't have to worry about fuel starvation with turns; however, old cbrs like the f2 and f3 have the steel frame and subframe built in so you can easily get a damned near bullet proof street fighter for dirt cheap. It really depends on what kind of money you want to spend, how much time you have on your hands, what you want to do with your bike. Turbos can be fun too.
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>>16386622
No

>>16386603
Well, it's a motorcycle part, and sitting on a motorcycle, so partially right
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>>16386600
it's a Dunlop Motionpro Connection
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>>16386623
It looks like Honda doesn't publish much carb info? The manual just suggests you take it in to a Honda shop. Just make your way to the carb using common sense. Remember the way it came apart .

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/784221/Honda-Cb250-Nighthawk.html?page=102#manual
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>>16386663
I will take that as a compliment to my craftsmanship that you liken it to Dunlop and Motion Pro
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>>16386600

Something having to do with brake?
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>>16386600
axially mounted calipers
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>>16386600
daddy's cummies?
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>>16386681
>>16386689
Nah

Blinker relocator since the stock location is dum as fuq
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>>16386594
If you have never done it before take pictures at every step that the other guy posted so you can remember how yo put it back together if you forget. Cleaning/rebuilding a carb is one of the easiest things to do on a bike
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>>16386669
I'm just worried I'll take it apart and put it back together, not realizing it needs to go in a specific order or something and then I'll be stuck on the bus
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>>16386600
rear aperture sight for more accurate willies
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>>16386623
you shouldn't need a tutorial for the removal
take pics of each thing you do so you know where things go when you put it back together.

when you open up the carbs just do one at a time and pull the bowl off, slide the float pivot pin out and the float and need will come out.
take the brass jets out with a good screw driver, hold them to a light and look for corrosion and clogs.
use brake or carb cleaner and spray through the passages in the carb body and through the jets.
once you get everything cleaned out just put it back the same way it came out.
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>>16386694
nigga u better run that wire through the forks n shiet
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>>16386600
Do people honestly like the look of these fenders and brake lights? Imo they make the bike look like a shit
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>>16386705
>>16386695
looks like once I get the hang of it I'm gonna be the one making a tutorial.
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>>16386709
I did, that was just a mock up
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>>16386740
>angry birb
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>>16386740
>>16386747
lel
Seriously, your lights and the ones on my V-Stronk are in the worst places.
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>>16386759
Yeah such a stupid spot for the offroad oriented version of the Tiger
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>>16386759
though the stroms have have fantastic road illumination from the factory
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>>16386777
>that yawning chasm between the luggage rack and the bike
you need a tool tube or box there
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>>16386705
>>16386695
alright so the idle/air screws need a tachometer to be properly reset. The CB250 doesn't have a tachometer.

what do
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>>16386789
Mine's an 06; the lighting is pretty good. I have thought about getting some small LED lights for more side illumination from 50 to 35 degrees (off the main axis of the bike, if that makes any sense).

>>16386777
I figure they want to get $60-90 per light when they inevitably get broken.

>>16386826
A timing light that has an RPM readout will work.
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>>16386807
I need to get the parts list from you again, or just go foraging at the hardware store
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>>16386826
run it by ear or get a digital tach from trail tech and stick it on
1.5 is the starting point for most, just make your adjustments till it idles smooth and not too fast.

>>16386841
2'x 4" abs tube
1 4" cap
1 4" cleanout
1 4" plug
you can skip the cleanout and plug if you use an econoseal plug but they might cost more.
then whatever you want to strap it down with
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>>16386309
>bench racing this hard
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>>16386833
If you have like $1k to spend the Clearwater lights are bitchin

If not this guy makes good stuff, if you don't want to get cheapo chinesium lights anyway
http://ledrider.com/shop/?model_number=LR4
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drz 400 ran crank shaft bearing

replace or rebuild ?
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>>16386322
Actually I do have radial mount calipers and a radial mount master cylinder. Try again nobike.
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>>16386881
>$1k
Nah, not after buy the NC and running up my cards going to NM and FL for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Bookmarked the other one, though. Thanks m8.
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>>16386826
nah, you guess. The screws are set at idle, and you know what idle SHOULD sound like
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>>16386883
trash
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>>16386390
Because changing brake rotor size is trivial with radial mount calipers, like I said before retard. In terms of brake performance there is no difference. Racers change brake rotor size to tune brakes for different circuits. That is why race bikes run radial mount calipers.
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>>16386429
>radial calipers have a far stiffer and superior feel

Citation needed nobike.
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>>16386322
>>16386892
Jeebus, even the poo bike has USD forks and radial mount calipers
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>>16386908
why would anyone change the brake rotor size? If you want to brake less you just squeeze it less
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>>16386879
Did you just use hose clamps to attach it?

>>16386897
Damn you went all the way to FL? Sounds like a bitchin holiday road trip
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>>16386917
The WR has axial master cylinder and conventional mount caliper. I wish it had radial mount because switching between SM rotor and offroad rotor would be much easier.

>USD forks
blown seal, fucking have to take them apart and rebuild. going to probably install RT gold valves while I'm in there and respring it.
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>>16386931
Yeah, my mom's in north FL. Pretty nice except she smokes like a chimney. I'll have to wash everything twice when I get home.
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>>16386931
plumbers strapping and bolts for now, might switch to stainless hose clamps later on.
banding it keeps it from getting a single exploding stress point like your tool tube in moab
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>>16386920
Changing rotor size changes the lever pressure to brake force ratio which is beneficial for racers looking for fractions of second off their time.

A smaller rotor provides a finer brake modulation range that allows ou to consistently hit your brake markers on tighter tracks taht need more nuanced braking.

A larger rotor provides more braking force for a given lever pressure and a larger thermal mass, both of which are beneficial on faster tracks that require a lot more peak brake force to haul down from speed and less emphasis on fine brake modulation.

There is a reason bikes don't just have the largest possible rotors that can fit on the wheel. Brake rotor size is a means of tuning brake performance and feel. Radial mount calipers allow this tuning to happen much easier than having to have a specific bracket for every rotor size.
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>>16386961
Also, changing master cylinder piston size does something similar but is much more difficult because you have to drain/fill/bleed the system each time and swap the entire MC/lever assembly out. It also doesn't allow you to tune the thermal mass of your rotors to your track and desired brake heat range.
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>>16386920
KTM, being KTM, has a 320 floating wave kit for the poo bike, including the spacers. I might get it, or one of the aftermarket kits. The spacers are sold separately for something like $6
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>>16386979
probably cheaper to just source the rotors yourself and make the spacers.

$6 for what amounts to $0.50 worth of metal bushing is ridiculous.
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>>16386961
>There is a reason bikes don't just have the largest possible rotors that can fit on the wheel.
but they do
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>>16386990
Mine doesn't. See >>16386979
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>>16386979
yes it is understandable to swap up to a higher diameter rotor for more mechanical advantage but I don't ever see any bike with large diameter rotors swapping to smaller ones.
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>>16386990
No The don't.

Even Buells who had the largest rotors mounted to the rim of the wheel went with a single rotor/caliper combo to compensate for the additional swept area.

Modern sportbikes have varying sizes of 298/300mm-to 320mm rotors. This is no where near the largest rotor you can fit on a 17" wheel accounting for caliper-rim clearance.
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>>16386999
because yours isn't a race bike.

Also dirt bikes don't because of ground clearance issues and brakes can be too sensitive for low traction
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>>16387002
Most times people swap rotors is for looks.

Racers swap between 300, 310, and 320mm rotors based on the track all the time. It literally is the reason radial mount calipers exist.
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>want to get a standard bike
>the only standards I like that are available in the US (so far) are the CB500F, XSR900, CB1100 EX, and the SV650
>CB500F is hardly any faster than my CB250 apparently
>XSR900 is 10k, looks nice af though
>CB1100 EX looks great but is probably gonna be super expensive, if it's even brought to the US at all
>SV650 is $7k and is still a beginner bike
>triumph bonerville is $10k and looks like malted ass

just FUCK me up tbqfwyftbhrn
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>>16387003
looks to me like they're using the biggest rotor possible while still maintaining minimum clearance between wheel and caliper
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>>16387022
clearly your only option left is a hardley
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>>16387028
>forgot pic
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>>16387028
Not at all.
My bike runs 310mm rotors and there is significant clearance to run larger. Pic related.
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>>16387047
There's not a whole lot of clearance there. One of my bikes had 320mm rotors and I had to take the pads out and push the pistons in to get enough room to take the caliper on and off
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>>16387037
please no
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>>16387042
https://www.yamaha-racing.com/motogp/bike

>Brakes: Brembo, two 320 mm or 340 mm carbon front discs, two four piston calipers. Single stainless steel rear disc, twin-piston caliper

Two different sizes for rotors.

>>16387051
There is space for an easy 50mm more rotor without mechanically preventing caliper removal there.

Yet on MotoGP bikes the biggest they run is right around 340mm. And they swap down to 300 and 320mm for some tracks for the above mentioned tuning advantages.

Radial mount calipers were created to allow easy rotor size changes in racing. Period.
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Soon...

Saturday even. Booked my test ride today, hopefully the two brothers exhaust on it doesn't sound too bad.
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>>16387061
no they were designed for less caliper deflection
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>>16386529
regular forks will be cheaper but proven and reliable.

If you buy a mid/low-range bike with USD forks its almost guaranteed they will suck ass.
>>
>buy arai and rev'it gloves yesterday
>carb repair kit comes in the mail today
>decide it would be a fucking tragedy if i bought this dank ass helmet and gloves with a non-running bike
>get home from job at Cycle GearTM
>swear at my carb trying to take the fucker off
>swear at my carb when i stab myself with the needle reaching into the bag
>swear at my carb trying to put it back on
truly i am an italian mechanic
>fuel now flows into the carb
>too late to start it right now with my neighbors being so god damn old
tomorrow i'll have to give it a test run, i will probably never know why fuel wasn't flowing into the carb but the new needle seemed to do the trick
how did all y'all days go?
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>>16387074
Wrong.

You have no idea what yo are talking about. You didn't even know rotor sizes were changed to tune brake performance. You thought bikes just had the biggest rotors possible mounted to the wheels. Shut up, you have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>16387085
woke up at like 12 and sat in my underpants playing chivalry medieval warfare all day
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>>16387086
http://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/why-things-are-radial-brakes

What does this mean? Well, as you can see in the illustration above, the braking forces transmitted are all in line with the direction of wheel rotation. There is no opportunity for deflection because the braking forces are on the exact same plane as the rotational forces.

There is no increase in braking power with a radial setup versus a conventional rig. Rather, the lack of torsional flexing (lateral movement) means crisper-feeling brakes at the lever. Although it may seem nearly imperceptible, that tenth of a millimeter or so that the calipers are allowed to deflect simply feels to the rider like a mushy brake lever.

The other benefit to these systems is that larger rotors can typically be fitted simply by spacing the caliper farther from its mounts. A traditional setup requires a custom mounting bracket, at a bare minimum, to make such a change. Larger rotors increase the mechanical advantage the caliper has on the rotor, which typically yields (you guessed it!) better braking feedback.
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>>16387119
>citing revzilla for technical information

Didn't real, loled hardily.
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>>16387085
worked all day, with a little luck ill get time to go for a ride this week.
>tfw go to work in the dark come home in the dark.
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>>16387123
>he doesn't watch decide and riiiiiiiiiiide
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>>16386384
What is sprung vs unsprung weight.
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>>16387119
it means racing teams catering to their riders prima-donna needs and ideas try to make a couple more bucks by throwing esoteric bullshit technology on the free market.
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>>16387159
Something not worth mentioning in this discussion.
The inner fork tube is much longer than the outer tube. So in a USD fork you have the long inner tube as unsprung weight vs the short outer tube of a rsu fork. This amounts to about the same or more unsprung weight as the conventional rsu fork.
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>>16387159
the actual weight difference being what exactly? half a kilo?
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>>16386407
>They put all their gimmicky technology on the track bikes in order to trick sheep like you into buying it.

Fuck winning races, we have memes to push
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Please tell me you guys own cars too? How do you get around in the rain and what the fuck do you do when you have friends and want to go somewhere? How do you even pick girls up to go on a date or drive them home?
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>>16387216
I have two bikes, two cars, and one truck.
>date
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>16387216
I have cars too, but riding in the rain is really not a big deal
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>>16387216
Of course you own a car too. I hate the guys who go "lol you don't ride in the rain your not a real biker". Translation is "I can't afford to own a bike and a car, I wish I could drive to work in the rain instead of getting soaked and riding cautiously in the rain"
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>>16387216
>r-rain is scary guys
wew
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>>16387085
>Old neighbours
My garage is next too an elderly couple, literally stopped me from putting a loud can on it
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I lowsided my ice skates.

I think I'm forever doomed to be a crasher
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what bike is this?
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>>16387248

>go around a corner in the rain
>die
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>>16387187
Riders are just as easy to influence as you and if it gives them a little psychological boost to have new "super feedback" brake designs why fight it?

Seriously its a fucking spinning disk! The force is exactly the same at every point and it doesnt matter where you grab it!
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>>16387256
Not if you have decent wet tires.

The ones in that picture, however, are not. Q3s are dogshit in the wet.

Riding in the rain is still easy though and riding through corners is also p easy in the rain.

A week after I got the damn thing I rode it 70mph home through a torrential downpour.
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>>16386087
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>>16387269

have you ever watched a wet moto gp race?

>easy

lol
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>>16387252
GpZ900r
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>>16387252
GPZ900
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>>16387270
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>>16387278
>He thinks he's street rossi
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>>16387278
They lean over further in the wet than you do in the dry and have 280
Hp
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>>16387278
>I always have to be going 10000mph in the rain
Riding in the rain isn't that bad and neither is spooling up the rear. Just don't be a retard.

It's not difficult.
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>>16387281
i just fucking want one
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>>16387216
I have two bikes and a company car.

I still ride rain or shine.

People terrified of the wet are pussies. Bikes have plenty of grip for wet weather riding.
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>>16387302
They are runny dogshit to ride.

If you want a bike with that kind of styling get a ZRX
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>>16387331
wet riding isnt half bad, not sure where you are but here near seattle people turn into absolute fucktards at the first sight of water so i opt not to ride much in the rain so i dont get killed
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>>16387249
when we first moved in, my roommate rolled in with his 955i and my nextdoor neighbor (who happens to be the HOA president) leans over to me and says "I hope that thing doesn't have LOUD pipes!"
>mfw my bike just has straight pipes
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>>16386087
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>>16386931
you suck at willies boi!
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>>16387335

its not like you cant fix that
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>>16387399
dem
>>16387399
dubs
>>16387399
doe
>>16387399
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>>16387014
[citation needed]
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