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ITT:

Your 5 favourite writers
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>>5491573

you :)
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>>5491577
xD and you
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>>5491580
and you :3

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Let's stop discussing David Foster Wallace and Stirner for a sec.

What are some great history books you'd recommend?

Any period and region.
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>>5479495
I don't know much about history, but a great book I've read recently is called "The Ego and It's Own" by maxwell stirner. I'd totally recommend it!
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I'll start with Righteous Victims: the history of the Zionist-Arab Conflict, 1881-2001. It's hard to be so fucking balanced and complete on such a subject.
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inb4 germs guns and steel

The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire is still very readable, but it's a very different kind of history to what we're used to nowadays.

Charles C. Mann's 1491 is some good pop history.

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The highest peaks of philosophy in buddhism are so profound that they should never be compared to the bible or any christian philosopher. They are completely free of semitic influence, not a trace of theism remains. Even the self is abandoned as a concept. Buddhism is a deep decentralizing, deconstructing, deprogramming, derealizing, depersonalizing, detaching process and practice. It's easy to abandon the thought of god, but how many atheists today are really just naive duelists clinging to Cartesian nonsense like "I think therefore I am" without realizing their sense of self is empty and illusory.

Buddhism goes deep into no-self philosophy until your sense of self is entirely erased. It's monastic nihilism because it encourages a meditative disciplined way of living without any concept of god or soul as a support. Other religions have monks but they're always after something (eternal life for self). Buddha and his monks were meditating to go extinct, to extinguish the seeds of rebirth, to prevent any birth at all into life. If that isn't antinatalism, what is? Buddhism is the most intense antinatalistic tradition ever, yet few seem to realize or discuss it from this angle.

So why has buddha become a friendly figure to society when he was a radical teaching a form of psychological suicide to an otherwise healthy normal group of young people? He was seducing them into a monastic way of life with the ultimate goal of disillusionment, detachment, nirvana. For one whose desires have faded, who has become disillusioned with life, there is nothing left to do except become a monk meditating. It's the buddha on the vulture peak meditating in a cave in profound silence instead of being home banging his wife. It's that decision to detach completely. Birth is nothing to celebrate, it just means a new heap of suffering has arisen and will suffer through all the same sickness and decay as the rest of us, all for nothing. Why keep this continuity of suffering going again and again? You don't even need to believe buddhist rebirth theory, some say the buddha didn't either. You can think of antinatalism in a simple scientific sense of no more procreation. Why should a species go on and on, killing and being killed in this cycle of life?
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many people confuse buddha the model to buddha the wish granting spirit
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very interesting post OP

I think people just need to dumb things down/'domesticate' foreign ideas in order to be able to feel like they understand them. Most westerners obviously don't actually know what you were talking about and in fact most buddhists I bet don't even see it that way. They just see it as their familiar culture, a series of rituals and so forth with not much deeper just like how most christians treat christianity.
In other words I'm betting that very few buddhists have the extremely nihilistic views that your post expressed, even if that was the original point of the religion, simply because that's how things tend to go - religions get coopted by the mainstream. You know what I mean.
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This and OP are both examples of what make this the best board on one of the best websites.

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Post a quote that particularly struck you as significant or relevant, one you've taken the liberty to underline.

From The Republic:

>Let me loaf and daydream the way lazy-minded people do when they're walking by themselves. They think of something they want and put off planning how to get it so they don't wear themselves out deciding whether or not it's attainable. They pretend they already have it and entertain themselves by arranging the details and imagining what they'll do, and so make an already lazy soul even lazier.
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"But it is preposterous to imagine that we ourselves are determinate, and hence susceptible both to correct and to incorrect descriptions, while supposing that the ascription of determinacy to anything else has been exposed as a mistake. As conscious being, we exist only in response to other things, and we cannot know ourselves at all without knowing them. Moreover, there is nothing in theory, and certainly nothing in experience, to support the extraordinary judgement that it is the truth about himself that is the easiest for a person to know. Facts about ourselves are not peculiarly solid and resistant to skeptical dissolution–notoriously less stable and less inherent than the natures of other things. And insofar as this is the case, sincerity itself is bullshit."
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"Man, I want to die, is all," cried Ploy.
"Don't you know," said Dahoud, "that life is the most precious possession you have?"
"Ho, ho," said Ploy through his tears. "Why?"
"Because," said Dahoud, "without it, you'd be dead."
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>>5448407

Forgot: this is from a neat, little book called On Bullshit by Princeton professor Harry G. Frankfurt. Worth the read.

>5448408

And nice one. Incredible nugget of a quote.

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Am I the only one who thinks there should be more insight into this?
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>muh Beatrice
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>tryhard novelist tries so hard it breaks the speed of tryhard
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Well, the general idea Handler was going for included mysteries without answers, loads of obscured connections, unresolved plot lines... The idea that a story can never truly having an ending. Although I think the thematic experiment was lost on the target audience.

What was the sugar bowl?

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>Taking some 'Writing Preparation' or whatnot in college (one of my courses).
>I am assigned some letter of introduction.
>I type it up, and I send it in.
>Instructor replies, goes on about there being an issue with my writing.
>Apparently, I have a 'problem' with writing/typing in a style of Old/Middle English.
>Mfw that may lead to me failing the course.

Tip-top kek! I never assumed that this was possible, but I guess it is.
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>>5352074
post some of your writing. it could be genuinely bad and he doesn't know how to describe it
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Old/Middle English? What the fuck are you saying? Old English and modern aren't even mutually intelligible, are you saying you speak Old English?
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>>5352079
Nah, he likes my 'style', but I apparently have to use the 'Standard Modern English'.

>>5352086
I'm saying my 'style' of writing seems to have a flair of Old English. That's what the Instructor stated, believe me, I was pretty confused by the whole thing as well.

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Post your poems in here. Comment, discuss, and (contstructively) critique other's work. Try to avoid flaming, this should be a learning experience for everyone.

A man walked up to a gallows pole
With his hands pulled tight round his back
His heart was a knot and his hands were a tremblin'
He feared the void's cold burning black

The spectators shuffled below him
The crowd, like a cancer cell, grew
A sharp wicked wind started blowin'
And a war horn heard only by few

And the man couldn't see, for the hair in his face
From the wind all around him that blew
He was no longer aware of his place
But he knew that all sight was untrue.

The hangman bestowed him his necklace of thorns,
Boards creaked from the trapdoor below

And the wind shrieked his swan song,
His soon-to-be-gone song
The floor dropped from under his toes

His fall was a timeless adventure
From above, he saw life's forking paths
Time to him was a child's illusion
That men's minds outreached couldn't grasp

A horseman rode up to the gallows pole
With a presence that stifled the crowd
And out of his mouth came a roaring of waters,
And the trumpets cut clean through the clouds

A muffled crack signaled the death of the man
Veins burst in the whites of his eyes
And the now stoic horseman, like a surgeon began
To strip the man's worldly disguise

Slung 'cross the haunches of the lone horseman's steed,
The criminal's body was placed
The horseman's spurs thrust them away from the gallows
And ascended the steep path to grace.
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a haiku

spiderman shot web
it squirted upwards with glee
how do ~I~ shot web?
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C'mon, no one has anything they'd like to contribute?

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The result of our polls leave us with Thomas Mann's Death In Venice. It's only 42 pages long (in the pdf), so I suppose we can finish it in 5 days to a week. It's a very comfortable timeframe for such a short read. Now, Im aware there's another up-and-coming /lit/ book club, but they're direction is different from this one's. We hope that at least one of us can last longer than all the failed attempts at a /lit/ book club. We hope for in-depth discussion concerning the lit we read, but let's be realistic -- this is only an excuse to read among "friends" and share resources concening our chosen lit. Let's hope for the best.

Pdf: http://www.24grammata.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Mann-death-in-venice-24grammata.com_.pdf
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Lets do it.
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I just finished reading this and my e-book said mine was 70 pages long and I have seen other versions that are 160 pages long. Anybody know why this may be?
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>>5276375
Their*

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Sup. So, I figured out a thing about words and I want to give it away to anyone that will listen. If you're interested in learning a method of analysis that you can use to establish authorial style at the level of individual creative choice and thus be able to spot an author's particular presence in a document then stick around.

The topic of discussion is a thing called narramemes, a topic of semiotics and in particular the role of an author in constructing a narrative (I focused on narratives since I'm trying to be a better writer and am super autistic, but technically it is in any document that is constructed in a creative way.)

Replies are cool, it'd be nice to know people are reading but I'm also going to type the whole lesson even if I'm talking to an empty thread. I can (or at least should be able to) field any questions, there isn't a higher authority to appeal to unfortunately, I've looked. Technically, one of my purposes here is to fish for unanswerable questions.
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Let's do it
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>>5253469
To start, some definitions:

Narramame - A distinct unit of narratological measurement. Functional concept: Changes in world state.

Working glossary - the edition of the narrameme glossary being utilized
(the very nature of the ongoing identification of narramemes requires frequent editions, keep track of whichever one is in use or risk data contamination)

Sequential lines - Charted documents usually excel files, jpgs or handwritten, that show through either type of glossary term identifier (there's a method for display in both colour and numerics.)

Style - Patterns of narramemes that an author defaults to when presented with creative choice.

Creative choice (I don't mean to assume you don't know how art works, but I don't know who is in the class) - Points in creation of a work where the creator recognizes differing solutions to given creative problems.
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>>5253512
There are two types of people in the world when examining a document in this manner: speakers and performers.

Speakers are humans that have not begun to see their work as something that is received by an audience. They're called this for their method of writing, essentially they try to create a document that, to them, most immediately reflects their own inner voice. In a speaker, tracking narramemes allows us to almost read the mind as it's consciously understood by the person.

Performers are far more interesting since a performer is a person who self edits due to the knowledge that communication dictates that there's someone on the receiving end that will interpret your words due to their own life biases.

Narramame usage varies between the two types and before working it helps to know which you're dealing with to cut back on work later.

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despite everything, 4chan remains a unique online presence
/lit/ is commonly cited as the best topic board on 4chan
let's start a literary movement
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>>5251444
who's she?
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>/lit/
>best anything
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>>5251444
>/lit/ is commonly cited as the best topic board on 4chan
gonna need a source on that

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Why is Stephen King is so controversial here on /lit/?
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nabokov hates him
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>>5228279
Because he sucks but people are idiots so they like him.
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Because of his stupid ugly unsettling face.

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What are the top three Hemingway books? I'm interested in reading some of them. Tell me, /lit/
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>>5225706

1. The Complete Short Stories (especially if you include The Old Man and the Sea)
2. The Sun Also Rises
3. A Farewell to Arms
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go away
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>>5225748
I dislike "power ranks" in general, but I'm surprised by how much I agree with this.

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/lit/erati, share with us your top 5:
>Books
>Films
>Music

and recommend literature and other works to posters along the way.
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>>>/soc/
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Leo Strauss "Rebirth of Classical Political Rationalism"
Anton Zildjerveld "On Cliches"
Friedrich Engels "Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State."
Andrea Dworkin "Pornography"
Shere Hite "Hite Report on the Male Sexuality"

Spring Breakers
Domino
The Siege at Ruby Ridge
Blue Sky
The Place Beyond the Pines

Waka Flocka Flame
Aqua
Van Morrison
The Allman Brothers
Madonna
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>>5200440
>Waka Flocka Flame

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Why can't science fiction and fantasy authors write realistic female characters? I'm a girl (relevant to the topic hurr durr) and this problem often makes books in those genres unreadable for me.

For example, earlier today I was trying to read Ready, Player One and had to stop because the protagonist's love interest was portrayed in such a study way.
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Because most of them are manchildren who never lost their virginity. Do you seriously expect some basement dwelling neckbeard loser to know how women think? Why do you even read that trash? Do you have psychological issues?
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>>5203656
>I was trying to read Ready, Player One

Well that's your problem right there.

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Anyone here read sports literature? Particularly auto/biographies about sporting icons?

"Straight Shooter" by Matthew Lloyd is probably my favourite. I'll admit that I'm biased because I'm a big fan of the man himself, but his work is surprisingly erudite.

This book is the story of a kid driven by a fear of failure to climb the highest peaks in football. A young man who taught himself how to achieve a zen-like state of mind when kicking for goal, to become an astonishingly accurate full forward.

It is a personal account of how he had to come to terms with a new coach, who as a previous player himself, envied Lloyd and dismantled his career in a clandestine fashion. Yet as the established captain of the Essendon Football Club, he continued to be a loyal servant to a club plagued by political scheming.

It contains an brutally honest account of how he nearly, but fairly almost made an opposition player a paraplegic. Society's hatred towards him as a direct result of the incident forced him into early retirement.

Above all, it is a fascinating read about an astonishing career from a man who is a Straight Shooter in more ways than one.
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>>5171876
u wot m8
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>>5171876
I don't understand. You post this every day, and nobody ever understands or cares what you're on about. Is this a meta troll? Some kind of smear campaign by the Indo spy agency to turn literate 4channers against Australians?
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>>5172264
I am as buffled as you

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