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Who was the greatest philosopher of the 20th century?
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All philosophers post bronce age were losers
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Why does he wear the bandana
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>>7671647
it's a do-rag and it's to maintain his cornrows

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What books can I read to learn about cultural Marxism?
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Gramsci is a good intro. Dialectic of Enlightenment is needlessly difficult to read but the first essay is good for understanding the basic idea of critiquing "capitalist culture," instrumentalization e.g. Some kind of intro to Gramsci would be your best bet though.

The interesting thing is that a lot of cultural Marxist critiques dovetail with the most incisive (and much less read) right wing critiques of modernity, industrial and mechanical man, mass man, capitalist culture, etc. Not uncommon to see people smushing Gehlen together with a bunch of leftist wieners.

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What's the best version of this book?
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read it in original greek or don't bother at all
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I've liked Fagles a lot.
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Fitzgerald

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Hello /lit/. What are some recommended stoic pieces?
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http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/stoicism/
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>>7671593
seneca's letters from a stoic is pretty great
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>>7671593

on my to read list is "Meditations" by Marc Aurel which is apparently to develops and introduces some ideas of stoicism

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Can someone suggest some contemporary French writers like Houellebecq? I read most of Soumission in French before it came out here and found the prose pretty readable. Please do not recommend the Stranger, Bonjour Tristesse, etc. I prefer novels published since at least the 90's.
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Nonexistent. Don't try it or you'll be very disappointed if you're familiar with the XXth century French authors.
Stick to pre-2000 writers.
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>>7671731
I'm under that impression too. Most of it seems to be terrible "autofiction." I'm curious mostly because Soumission was fairly easy to read and was curious to find out if there were any other writers in French worth reading now.
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2084 by Sansal is literally just a better version of Submission.

Echenoz, Michon and Quignard are the best living French writers.

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What's the difference between genre fiction and literary fiction?
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>>7671551
pedantry
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arbitrary
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lit fic makes you think about lit, gen fic makes you think about that gen.

>have roughly a fiver left on my watersones gift card
>thinking of getting this

is it a good edition lads or should I wait and save up for another?
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>a fiver
kill yourself
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>>7671542
Get Oxford World's Classics, has a nice layout, introduction, and annotations.

You can also get the Norton Critical Edition, but I wouldn't recommend it because the editors changed the punctuation, making it "easier" to understand, but taking away some of the ambiguity that created poetic force in some passages (e.g. they put in parenthesis some parts of Satan's first monologue).
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>>7671616
What?

>>7671644
Nice, I'll check that out man, thanks.

I imagine most of you guys have had this experience before: You start with a nice novel or poetry collection and about 10% in realize you'd be enjoying yourself far more if you waited until the proper season. For me it's mostly really bleak or oppressive books, which I like to read in summer, and Victorian novels, which are strictly winter fare.

Examples:
>Pale King and Remainder are strong spring books
>Jude The Obscure should be read in winter
>Sabbath's Theater and Bell Jar are for summer only

Are summer books a thing that exists or is it just in my head? Do you have any examples of your own?
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>>7671522
It's more of a retroactive realization for me, but yes, it's not just in your head.

Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man benefits greatly from being read in late Winter or early Spring.

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Has anyone read Suzanne Berne?

What do you all think of her work? I haven't read it yet and would like some opinions before I pick something up.
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>>7671503
Redpilled /r9k/ browser here.

Here's a piece of advice: Don't pick up women writers. They're not as good as men
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>>7671520
THE FIRST BLOW OF THE "IRONICALLY MAD ABOUT MISOGYNISTS BUT IF I CLOAK IT IN SATIRE IT MEANS I'M NOT MAD AND JUST SUPERIOR TO THE PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH ME (FUCK I HATE THEM SO MUCH!!)" CRUSADE HAS BEEN STRUCK

WE JUST NEED TO KEEP IRONYPOSTING AS IRONIC /R9K/ SATIRES UNTIL THE BOARD IS NOTHING BUT ASSPAIN

THEN /R9K/ WILL LEAVE

THE SOLUTION IS SO CLEAR

DEA VULT
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>>7671520
Care to pill my on women?

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What's the best translation of the Phenomenology of Spirit?
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The one Zizek uses.
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>>7671483
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>>7671606
fuck, meant to reply to >>7671529
what a meal i have made of this

Recommended non-fiction audiobooks/podcasts?
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Hardcore History

I get the sort of get the feeling of this book, like more than 20 pages in [Spoiler] it's just constant love making, every single aspect of the book revolving around being arousing (and I enjoyed it, to be honest). It just sort of feels like a lulling story that is only meant to be pornography. I was sort of expecting something deeper.[/Spoiler] Can you explain without spoiling the book, simply if there's anything deep about this story at all?
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This is how it ends when reading Bataille's prose works and knowing nothing about his theory.

No it isn't 'just pornography', somewhat key word would be 'transgression'. I'm sure someone will explain it further, I'm just too lazy to do so.

And, at the end there should be a note where Battaile explains why some elements of the story are like that and so on.
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>>7671354
I dunno, it is very relaxing to read though. It feels like it lifts me out of the pressures of every day life, into a new state of mind.
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>>7671275
This book was garbage, it read like something a horny 15 year old wrote and tried his hardest to be as /b/ as possible

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TAO LIN CHARGES HIS iPHONE
a short story by Anon Anonoevsky
>1/2

Tao’s phone is dead. His coffee is going cold but not so cold it makes him frown when he sips it quite yet. He’s got ten minutes on that. His MacBook sits on a little round table in front, the table is too small and the corners of his computer hang off. On his MacBook screen is a folder. In the folder are eight documents with various one word titles, and five of them are blank .docs. The sixth contains five instances of bad poetry all separated by three line breaks with a single hyphen in the middle. Tao’s stomach growls. He squints past the vase in the center of his table to where there’s a chalkboard on the counter that prices out the daily kale variety product. Tao opens one of the blank files. He stares at it for a minute. Tao decides he still likes the title even if it doesn't mean anything yet.

“I can’t do this.” the Gmail tab at the top of Tao’s screen is flashing

‘Willia—‘

“Apparently you can make muffins with kale.” Tao says.

“We’re shit.”

There is no outlet at the wall near his table, but he can see one near a girl to his left.

“Is it weird for me to ask some random girl if I can charge my phone at the outlet under her legs? That’s weird isn’t it?” Tao says.

“Democracy is a sham.” William says. “I love the idea that this isn’t what happens when you have a Democracy”

“I’m going to ask her.”

“You know what happens when you have a free market?”

“Hang on”

“People use money to make it not a free market because free markets are bad for profit.”

“She nodded but didn’t look up.”

“I am lying on the floor.” William says.

“How’s your book?” Tao asks.

“It’s shit. We’re shit.”

“Did anyone retweet your link?” Tao asks.
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>>7671041

TAO LIN CHARGES HIS iPHONE
a short story by Anon Anonoevsky
>2/2

“My mother, my ex-girlfriend, and this woman who writes a column for some nobody blog but she didn’t read it, she jut retweeted it because I retweet her links when she posts them because we’re both prostitutes.”

“How many followers does she have, is it that Shannon woman?”

“Over a thousand.”

“From the genre blog?” Tao asks.

“Oh shit” Tao says.

“Yeah that was cool.”

“Did you hear back?

“Rejected”

“She didn’t look up and didn’t see me holding the charger, and didn’t know it was under her feet”

“Form rejected.” William says.

“So I had to just sort of start moving in toward the area, slow enough to give her a chance to figure the whole situation out”

“I sat on my fire escape last night in the snow until I couldn’t feel my hands”

“And eventually she realized what was happening and flinched away from the outlet so I got there.”

“Are you serious?” William says.

“Who does that”

There’s a thing on the table next to the vase and Tao picks it up. He turns it over. He can’t write a poem about it, so it puts it back down.

“I was at a gallery last night.” William is saying. Tao orders a kale product. “It was filled with hookers who smelled like starbucks and critical acclaim.”

“What was there?” Tao says.

“Some Russian idiot wearing lipstick and a blazer with no shirt on.”

“Hah”

“You were allowed to smoke in the gallery, and he was collecting cigarette butts and hot-gluing them onto blank canvases and then hanging them on the walls.”

“Did that actually happen?” Tao says. The girl is packing up her things.

“Yeah, that actually happened.”

“Have you written it into your book yet?”

"Wouldn't that be a trite insertion?"

"Trite is old." Tao says. "Now it's honesty."

“That’s why I’m lying on the floor.” William says.

She leaves. Tao puts his hands on his laptop screen like he’s making to shut it but stops.

“I can’t even afford to buy her a drink.” He says.

“Who?”

“The charger girl.”

“I can’t do this.” William is saying again.

“We're Americans, aren't we?” Tao says.

“We’re shit.”

“We’re doing things.”

“We’re shit”

“We’re shit.”

“We’re shit.”

“We’re the now.”

“Shit”

“Shit”

“We write like shit”

“We’re shit.”

“But that’s what makes us honest.”

“You don’t think anyone will buy that?”

“Of course they will, they’re shit.”
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It was alright until the end. It's facile and overdone.
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>>7671041

you should have written it in his style. he wouldn't use dialogue tags after questions. i don't think he's ever used present-tense, either. too many adverbs.

cunt Kant can't count
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cont. ?
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why are you quoting schoppy with a stirner pic?
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>>7671044
I quoted myself who is schoppy?

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What is a good book to read about Japan and its cultural history? I'm really intrigued by it, especially after reading about based Mishima and skimming Wikipedia pages. I would love to learn more.
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Shogun by James Clavel
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>>7670849
Watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh5LY4Mz15o
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Hideo Okuda reflects the society nice in Lala Pipo. Taichi Yamada gives a look into the soul and deep wishes. Akira Kudo about the youth culture. Kenzaburo Oe´s stuff for the past-war time, very interesting.

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