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>The thought of right is originally my thought; or, it has its origin in me. But, when it has sprung from me, when the "Word" is out, then it has "become flesh," it is a fixed idea. Now I no longer get rid of the thought; however I turn, it stands before me. Thus men have not become masters again of the thought "right," which they themselves created; their creature is running away with them. This is absolute right, that which is absolved or unfastened from me. We, revering it as absolute, cannot devour it again, and it takes from us the creative power: the creature is more than the creator, it is "in and for itself."

>memes propagate themselves in the meme pool by leaping from brain to brain [...] memes should be regarded as living structures [...] When you plant a fertile meme in my mind you literally parasitize my brain [...] memes have ensured their own survival by virtue of those same qualities of pseudo-ruthlessness that successful genes display. The idea of hell fire is, quite simply, self perpetuating [...] We have the power to defy the selfish memes of our indoctrination

Stirner's "fixed idea" and Dawkins's "meme" are basically the same thing, aren't they? Has anyone commented on Stirner's work from an evolutionary perspective, i.e. fixed ideas/spooks as replicators? And if they are replicators, then couldn't you say that their success is enough to justify them?
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the meme is not just a thought, it is the "proto-information" it could be so insignificant that you can't even describe it

but yes they are close enough

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What is the opinion of Vonnegut around here? I don't hear much about his works, especially outside slaughterhouse 5
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he is good as an introduction to post modern literature

>inb4 people use reddit as an excuse not to read him
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Then fucking lurk more
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>>7670797
only read Mother Night and it was meh

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You do know, that you are utter trash pleb tier, if you do not have academic background in literature, right?

So let's talk academics.

What's your point of view on comparative literature?
Favourite scholars?
Favourite essays?

Is it more poetics, literature theory, poetics or cultural studies for you?
Do you think it's future of literature studies?
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>>7670786
>You do know, that you are utter trash pleb tier, if you do not have academic background in literature, right?
As opposed to trash patrician tier, when you dumpster dive out of necessity due to poor choice in degree.
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>>7670793
kek keep delusional.
im studying what I love
im working as a gallery curator, which helps me develop myself even broader.

keep your shitty 9-5 job and absolutely zero knowledge about any form of art. (btw sorry for my english, i'm not from these dumpsters, I mean US/UK)
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>>7670786
lol i guess only plebs on this board

>Talking about Finnegans Wake all the time
>They know shit about literature
>They don't even know why is it really good

Fuck this board

hello /lit/. do any of you have any recommendations for Slavic history? i'm looking for beginner texts
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Read Byzantium: The Surprising Life of a Medieval Empire by Judith Herrin. Slavs often think of themselves as inheritors of the Byzantine empire.

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I picked these up recently. Any thoughts in your opinion. Could you suggest me any books?

The Mystery of Chimney Rock (Choose Your Own Adventure #5)

Space And Beyond: Choose Your Own Adventure (4)

The Forbidden Castle (Choose Your Own Adventure, 14)

Dragons of Autumn Twilight (Dragonlance Chronicles, Volume I)
Weis, Margaret

The Eye of the World (The Wheel of Time, Book 1)

Beyond the Blue Event Horizon (Heechee)

Gateway (Heechee Saga)
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favorite book related scene. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyObQH1RmLo
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>>7670742
I've never heard of any of these! You fucking hipster!

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How do women feel about him?
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Women don't feel, anon.
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/thread
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im reading Whatever right now...why didn't anyone tell me this was so funny?

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So I recently read a few of Arthut C. Clarke books. Childhood's end, Imperial Earth, Rendezvous with Rama.

I really like his books. They sit well with me for some reason. Not too overly complicated yet not simple and boring.

Can anyone recommend more SciFi books if you like Arthur C. Clarke?(preferably hard SciFi)
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Earthlight is the only Clarke’s book I’ve read, but I liked it.
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>>7670773
Thanks. Sounds like a good book. Unfortunately I can't find an audiobook(I have long commute).

Sorry if I wasn't too clear in the OP but it doesn't have to be Clarke, any writer is okay. I was looking if someone can recommend me other writers with maybe similar style and feel to Clarke's books.
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>>7670710
I think that The Fifth Head of Cerberus strikes a good balance between readability and depth and it earns you patrician because it's by Gene Wolfe.

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>Brave New World is dated
Finished reading this book, and it was so surreal couldn't get imersed in it.
First of all the "science" in the book doesn't make any sense and is often wrong. The author frequently mentions sciencey words along with banal things to make them seem futuristic.
Also the book propagates the ideia that premarital sex is bad. Really, the author talks about divorces in his prologue and says they are the beggining of the decline of moral. How can people take someone this nuts seriously in the current year?
The only good part of the book was when Mustapha and John discussed about civilization.
I rate this book 3/10.
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Pretty poor bait desu.
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>>7670707
Until you remember that is the average opinion on this book today.
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That's what we call 'get memed' on /lit/
Don't read shit books son

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is anyone here able to speed read?do you recommend learning it? do you really read the books or do you just flip through the text? and most importantly do you understand everything when you read really fast?
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you cant, unless its ya, then you should back to rebbit. For example would you speed read Dante or Goethe?
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>>7670657
well if i could understand everything just as much as i would while slow reading of course i'd read dante and goethe fast
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1 yes
2 no
3 you read the important parts on every page
4 since you skip the descriptions and pointless expose you read the "point"

good only for genre fiction and some non-fiction

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Can anyone recommend some good rise-and-fall type of stories? I'm not sure where to start looking. Pic somewhat related.
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>>7670641
Brief History of Seven Killings is basically a Jamaican Scarface with aspects of Latin American novel structure.

One of my new fav books.
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Watch Spartacus Season 1-2 but backwards. Prequel first.
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>>7670691
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks anon.

>Upon waking next morning about daylight, I found Queequeg's arm thrown over me in the most loving and affectionate manner. You had almost thought I had been his wife.

Was it Rape?
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I hope
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>>7670632
They were best bros
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>>7670632
It, and that whole part of the book, was cute as hell

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V A L I S
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>>7670584
W H A T
A B O U T
I T
O P
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>>7670584
I just finished Ubik. Is there any particular stuff by Dick that's considered prior reading before VALIS or can you just go in anytime and not miss anything?
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>>7670584

It was pretty interesting, helped me understand how people come up with wacky personal religions and shit like that. Not sure how much of that stuff PKD actually believed but I don't really care, he's still a great author. VALIS isn't my favorite work of his of course (that'd have to be A Scanner Darkly) but if you're already a fan of Dick it's worth a read.

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Don't lie to us, we'll know.

About a dozen for me. Mostly back a few years ago. Some really good stuff, like Underworld, JS & MN, and Gone With the Wind. Doorstoppers are great.
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none.
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none
brothers karamazov is the longest i've read
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>>7670492
Sanderson, Malazan, black company, and some other authors I can't recall. I've recorded that I read at least 600 books, in there I'm sure I read more than a dozen.

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>an advert plays on your mobile game
BRADBBURY WAS RIGHT

>a CCTV camera goes up in your neighbourhood
ORWELL WAS RIGHT

>parents are allowed to choose their child's' physical appearance before it's born
HUXLEY WAS RIGHT

>letting your fears of dystopian futures hold you back from progress, and deifying the texts they derive from like a bible

Why do people do this, /lit/?
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>>7670331
>BRADBURY WAS RIGHT
But Bradbury himself though he was right when he saw people with iPods. He purportedly resisted the digitization of his books saying shit like "N-No! No more computers! No more screens! U--UWAAA!" on his deathbed.
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>>7670331
>unskippable adverts and violation of privacy
>"progress"

ok
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>>7670331
>read this thread, OP is a faggot
ANON WAS RIGHT

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"I unlocked my subconscious your turn" volume IV

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=FxVk7gDo8dIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=inauthor:%22Todd+Andrew+Rohrer%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiw6aDc0uXKAhXImJQKHXfZAkIQ6AEILzAC#v=onepage&q&f=false

"You are perfect as long as your definition of perfect is perfect."

he reminds me a little of L.Ron Hubbard. or a tweaker who can't let go of the keyboard.
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>>7670220
Is that an overlord?
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>>7670456
jesus, just try to stick to the topic, okay? no, it isn't. THIS is an overlord.
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He's bought into the "your thoughts change your environment" thing
There is nothing wrong with him, but he does skew his perception to conform to his individuality. It's a kind of imaginary psychosis, happens to more people than meets the eye.

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