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Wittgenstein's use of the word "form", seems a tad inconsistent.
The first time he attempts to define it (2.0251), "Space, Time, and Colour (colourdness) are forms of objects.", and if we combine this with what he has already established in (2.0131), "A spatial object must lie in infinite space. ... A visual speck need not be red, but it must have a colour. It has, so to speak, a colour-space around it. A tone must have a pitch..." , and in (2.02331), "Either a thing has properties which no others have, and then one can distinguish it from the others straight away, from the others... (or it doesn't).", then the meaning becomes obvious.
Every object has certain attributes/properties. Every object is defined by its properties, and the total of all the properties of an object is the "form". Fair enough.

However, he then proceeds to say, in (2.033), that "The form is the possibility of the structure.", structure having been already defined as "The way in which the objects hang together in the atomic fact.", with the atomic fact being "The configuration of the objects, (presumably in relation to one another)". So, by this definition, the "form" of the object(s), is "The possibility of the way in which objects hang together in the configuration of the objects." Rearranging that to be less tautological, and more readable, we get "A possible way in which the objects are configured, in relation to each other." Again, fair enough.

However, you will have noticed that "The totality of the qualities that define an object, and differentiate it from other objects." is not the same thing, as "A possible way in which the objects are configured, in relation to each other.". So, in the philosophy of Ludwig Wittgenstein, what exacty is "form", and what is the relation between these two concepts?

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What is /lit/'s opinion on Donna Tartt? Let's talk about her novels.

>The Secret History
Read it 12 or 13 years ago. Very impressive novel, but a bit too long, hence it's losing its purpose in the second part.
Also it's extremely "American"--you get a lot of paper for your money. But although I enjoyed it much, I'm not sure it was useful for me in any way (like a Dostoevsky novel, or even like a Houellebecq novel, can be useful).

>The Little Friend
Boring as heck. Impossible to finish. What happened? Am I missing something?

>The Goldfinch
Didn't read yet. Is it more like TSH or like TLF?

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“Yes, yes, well done, Slytherin,” said Dumbledore. “However, recent events must be taken into account.”

The room went very still. The Slytherins’ smiles faded a little.

“Ahem,” said Dumbledore. “I have a few last-minute points to dish out. Let me see. Yes…

"First–to Mr. Ronald Weasley…”

Ron went purple in the face; he looked like a radish with a bad sunburn.

“…for the best-played game of chess Hogwarts has seen in many years, I award Gryffindor house fifty points.”

Gryffindor cheers nearly raised the bewitched ceiling; the stars overhead seemed to quiver. Percy could be heard telling the other prefects, “My brother, you know! My youngest brother! Got past McGonagall’s giant chess set!”

At last there was silence again.

“Second–to Miss Hermione Granger…for the use of cool logic in the face of fire, I award Gryffindor house fifty points.”

Hermione buried her face in her arms; Harry strongly suspected she had burst into tears. Gryffindors up and down the table were beside themselves–they were a hundred points up.

“Third–to Mr. Harry Potter…” said Dumbledore. The room went deadly quiet. “…for pure nerve and outstanding courage, I award Gryffindor house sixty points.”

The din was deafening. Those who could add up while yelling themselves hoarse knew that Gryffindor now had four hundred and seventy-two points–exactly the same as Slytherin. They had tied for the house cup–if only Dumbledore had given Harry just one more point.

Dumbledore raised his hand. The room gradually fell silent.

“There are all kinds of courage,” said Dumbledore, smiling. “It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to stand up to our friends. I therefore award ten points to Mr. Neville Longbottom.”

Someone standing outside the Great Hall might well have thought some sort of explosion had taken place, so loud was the noise that erupted from the Gryffindor table. Harry, Ron, and Hermione stood up to yell and cheer as Neville, white with shock, disappeared under a pile of people hugging him. He had never won so much as a point for Gryffindor before. Harry, still cheering, nudged Ron in the ribs and pointed at Malfoy, who couldn’t have looked more stunned and horrified if he’d just had the Body-Bind Curse put on him.

“Which means,” Dumbledore called over the storm of applause, for even Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff were celebrating the downfall of Slytherin, “we need a little change of decoration.”

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what book should i get my dad for fathers day?

he recently liked Hard Rain Falling and some Raymond Chandler books.

Did you buy a book for your dad?

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What would you do if some sick fucks got together and tried to trap you in a nightmare realm ruled by Stephen King? Would you be mad?

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>you're with a guy like picrelated
>an attractive woman is nearby, out of hearing range
>the guys says something like, "Anon, look at the tits on her, phwoar!"

How are you meant to respond? Be srs. Are you seriously telling me that DFW in that situation would be "sincere"?

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I saw "You, Me and Everyone We Know" in 2009. It was okay, I guess. I'd never before considered reading one of her books, but a few months a ago my girlfriend bought collection of July's short stories. And just now I saw July under the female authors heading in the /lit/ recommended reading document: http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading/Literature_by_type#Female_Authors

Is she worth reading? I value /lit/'s opinion more than I value my own life. If she is worth reading, recommend me something other than the short stories.

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https://youtu.be/3SUWK_pWrbw

He's right, you know.

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What is the method to write a story without having it lasting for hundreds of pages ?

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How the fuck did I finish and enjoy a book with no plot whatsoever?
Is this part of the message of this book?

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I became an avid reader like three months ago and I can't stop. I stopped watching tv and I don't spend much time on 4chan anymore.

Here's how I did it.

-Remember the average person reads like zero books a year. If you read 5 pages a day, you are 5 pages above the average person

-Don't force yourself to read. Commit to read 5 pages a day. I swear after three days you'll feel like reading more and after a month or so you should be reading 50-100 pages a day for pleasure

-Read various books at the same time. When I grab a difficult book or one that makes me sleepy I grab another and switch. This should refresh your head. Keep them thematically different. I read economics and fiction.

-It isn't a race. Reading slowly won't make you sleepy that fast. Try to acknowledge what books are for you to read fast and which aren't.

-Buy the physical copies. When you get the books from your own money you'll feel the need to read them to avoid the feel of wasting your money.

-Start with books highly discussed here so you feel motivated to discuss.

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Here's a story for you guys.

/sci/ liked it overall... I don't know if that's good or bad...

http://pastebin.com/EE3iJjFa

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What is the literary equivalent of Meshuggah?

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Represent a 4chan board with a major author

>/tv/