Does reading, and more specifically reading philosophy turn you into an autist?
No, but it can cause anomie.
If you have a tremendous amount of knowledge in your head, but no power to put it to use, you'll be depressed.
Kind of destroys the age-old saying that knowledge is power.
>>8255226
can you explain more in depth?
Because it seems as if most philosophy cant be put to use. So by what you're saying, any philosopher is bound to get depressed eventually. Unless putting to use can mean writing papers or books etc...
>>8255234
>any philosopher is bound to get depressed eventually.
Yes.
I'm gonna have some free time this weekend and I was thinking about reading some book after some time I haven't read nothing.
I was thinking about for what kind of book I'm in mood right now and figured out that I'd read something that'd be like bizarro Kerouac. Not fantasy though. Maybe something like a mash up of Kerouac and McCarthy. A story about traveler that wanders around america stumbling on weird places, fucked up people getting himself into bad situations...
Does a book like that exists or am I gonna have to write it myself?
Kerouac isn't even that good, and I think you made this thread before so I doubt you'll read it, but what you want is A Confederate General from Big Sur by Brautigan.
>>8255150
Yeah I made this thread yesterday, I got some Suttree recommended but I was looking for more. Theres never too much of books to have on your list.
>>8255220
If you don't read any, one is too much.
>I am so simple of mind that I find reading a imaginary tale titillating
This is just lazy.
hehe you said titillating hehehehehehe
>>8255162
http://culture.vg/features/art-theory/on-the-genealogy-of-art-games.html
This is the best essay on art I have read. If you've ever wondered why pomo faggotry has such a good reputation then you must read it.
I won't read your shitty essay.
Agamben's Man without Content is probably much better at explaining the current state of art than this.
"Such was the blanket dominance of pseudo-intellectual hipsterism and bullshit manufacturing in the twentieth century"
I'm definitely not wasting my time.
Your'e supposed to spell "fagot" with only one "g", OP.
What is the most sadistic, brutal book that you know which is not a porno? I consider books like story of the eye, 120 days of Sodom, and hogg are pornos (for however much I respect and admire these books, I've only read a little bit of them, sufficiently so to feel that I know that I can say that).
Not Wanted on the Voyage by Timothy Findley, or some Kathy Acker.
Blood Meme by Corcncob McCrusty
I'm writing a Pynchonesque pomo detective novel and I'd like to hear what you guys think of the plot
So the main character is a writer, a journalist actually so he does some detective work, and he gets put on a zany burglary case where a conspiracy is revealed when the burglars in a wacky pomo moment reveal right up front they have CIA connections, so the writer starts to investigate and it turns out these CIA thugs work for an organization called Committee To ReElect the President (the joke is this is an acronym for CREEP) who is spying on American citizens and political opponents to try and rig a reelection of a greaseball Republican caricature literally named Dick (lmao)
In the end, to illustrate the absurdity of political beauracracy, the case comes to a close when Dick himself blunders the conspiracy by recording himself talking about it
Of course there are many open ended plot threads, and the lingering question WHY?
What do you think? Too far fetched?
Thomas Pynchon here, not bad kid.
don't know man, the theme seems beaten to death
Writer as protagonist is 18thC level pomo and your acronym doesn't work
>tfw normies don't understand how just hilarious and devastatingly sad this book can be and just write it off as "pedo shit"
These 'normies' you speak of are just you right? ~The desperate normie, prick in hand, reading with dazed disappointment as you hold out a little longer for a sex scene. But sore willy and reader superiority complex slowly transforming the disappointment into enlightened mental masturbation.
This book has a beautiful prose but I still can't continue reading it just because of the protagonist.
Great book, definitely a classic. But not for me.
>>8255232
Humbert's cool except for the fucking kids part but even then he explains himself so articulately and gives you so many emotional and historical justifications for his slimy ways. His smugness and callousness towards everyone except Lolita is fine by me.
How do you deal with the fact that you are of average intelligence (in western world standards)?
If you're able to write a coherent sentence you're above average.
>>8255009
i loathe my existence every day
Well the average of 4chan is skewed towards 110 if not 120 if we're going by IQ, but at the same time a lot of us are held back by pessimism and self loathing.
I think a better question would be, knowing that you aren't going to just fart your way into the literary limelight or crush puss straight to tenure, what are you going to dedicate your life to while being capable of more than the average human. Western humans included now.
What works have complete "acid trip" endings?What works do it well?
>>8254945
DUDE
>>8254949
TRIPPIN
Finnegans Wake, it even mentions LSD at one point
>Chilcot Inquiry
>The Inquiry's final report was published on 6 July 2016. Comprising 2.6 million words in 12 volumes, plus an executive summary, a physical copy was priced at £767.[36] It was also published online.
Is this, dare I say it, a modern classic?
>>8254902
Chilcot Inquiry is the pinnacle of the liberal and libertarian society.
plenty of paper used [because liberals love books and not reading books is outrageous >muh gutenberg >muh enlightenment by reading somebody's prose] that nobody cares about and that will not have any consequences thanks to the liberal fantasy of the free thinker illustrating the glorification of the impotence of a phony reflexivity of anybody in the liberal society to get out of hedonism.
the goal of the liberals and libertarians is the make hedonism as moral and legal as possible. They thrive on the transition private->public that they consolidated, so that they can appear as worthy and dignified in one realm, in order to feel more debased in the other realm. This transition is the best means to counter boredom.
This disdain for the explicit love of hedonism in liberal societies appeared already centuries ago, when the liberalism started to become trendy.
Most people are hedonists, especially through the body, and they love to think of themselves as less materialistic hedonist than they are [while still being total hedonist), typically in turning to prayers, meditations 15 minutes a day, or in the societies designed by the liberals and libertarians, in turning towards the common good, through the normative reason since the modern rationalists where every schmuck should strive to embody the free thinker....
The fantasy of the free thinker is either the one that elucidates the role of the society on the people, like the academics in literary fields, or the one who masters the nature, like the academics int he scientific fields... Both fields serve and a financed explicitly to ease the life of the people, with some myths about ''explaining the world'', because the liberals and libertarians cling to their fantasy that if people's materialistic desire are fed, then they would at last behave according to their Human rights.
This faith in some structure to make people better (aka make people think like they think) is the most defining fantasy of the europeans. The more they fail to exhumate this structure, the more they turn to asian doctrines and try to find the structure in those philosophies. They whine that they discover that these doctrines lack the structure that they fantasize and they hardly admit that they look at them only by pure exoticism, which would feed their hedonism.
Is Tony Blair the greatest villain in all of literature?
Yes, since telephone directories became obsolete people have sought other meaningless doorstops to use literature as an excuse to parrot their political views.
Well, /lit/?
I look at the book itself. I find Moby Dick so tangential and frustrating to read, even with its historical context and relevance, I can barely stomach when he spends a full paragraph describing a ladder for no reason.
Is Goldeneye 64 still a good game? Not anymore, but I'm able to appreciate that it once was amazing at its time. The same I can say objectively for Moby Dick, maybe.
>>8254854
questions for someone who has fallen out of love
>>8254854
context matters little when considering the objective value of a book, that is, what it contributed to humanity.
we know value when we see it, because it is self-evident. the people who can't discern value often do not have any business reading in the first place, nor have a say in the matter.
historical context is for sophists trying to make a point.
Hi, guys.
I really need to get a book "The discovery of subatomic particles" by S. Weinberg in English. But I live in Russia and don't know, how to buy a book from your Amazon etc.
So, could you recommend me torrents web-site, where I can find a book and download it with out registration and paying money?
Thank you in advance.
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hey guys what do you think of this theory i came up with
ok so
the earth is part of the solar system
inside the galaxy
inside galaxy cluster
etcetcetc
we
and everything else
is made up of molecules
then some other stuff
inside each other
in layers
like an onion
we are
no where
there is not telling what part of the layers we are on
from our viewpoint we see ourselves as small but still bigger than small stuff
so lower end of the middle
on the smallness scale
but really
we could be no where in a pile of layers that go on forever
right now the smallest thing weve ever discovered
has to be made of something else
and that something else
is made of other stuff
etc
we are unique
as humans
we are able to peer into the other layers
and identify that they exist
humans may not be big
but they are very significant
they are created from a very special combination of everything around them and every other layer behind and ahead of them coming together imperfectly to be able to create a living organism
this organism was able to reproduce
probably asexually
and it kept growing
and eventually it split up
and that split up
etcetc
some found a way of surviving
they were plants
they used photosynthesis
harnessing their surroundings
using wood as their shield and leafs as their collectors
animals grew into something that uses blood and air and such to survive
they use energy from foods
foods are simply things that have the ability to give u energy
that u can use
by breaking it down and picking out the parts u want
and excreting the waste you dont need
everything
every animal plant etc
anything living
was from one single mutation
and they all grew their own unique ways to live
which nothing else that we know of has found a way to do it the same as we do
maybe our laws like gravity and such
laws we cannot break
only exist within our cluster of layers
maybe past our layers there are whole new roules
rules we cannot understand ever
maybe the layers go in an infinite loop
maybe the layer after atoms is another galaxt cluster
etc
eyesight is just a function that we have evolved to see the way we do
we have grown our eyes so that they recieve light waves around us and process it through our brain
WAIT DUDE
i thought of sonething less existential
ok so
you know how there those spinny things powered by a battery right
that if u power them they rotate
like on a planes propellor or some shit
bumpppp
I feel sorry for both of you. I feel sorry for all of us.
ITT: pages you read today or yesterday and what it was.
70, near the end. Broom of the System by DFW.
Got slightly rustled by thecheatingaspect, which is annoying considering how prevalent it is in every form of media."The time last night when [hot wife] cried in front of [bull] was the first time she had ever cried in front of anybody else, at all.
[Cuck] has cried in front of lots of people."
Rick Vigorous has cried in front of lots of people.
0, i dont read
About 50, I think.
>>8254791
Twenty-two, then I dropped the kindle on my face and swiftly fell into death-like sleep. I woke up as if in a different world. The kindle was placed neatly next to my bed and aligned with it, face up. It showed the main menu. I checked the last open page, I have no recollection of it.
how do i get into reading?
>inb4 start with the greeks
i want to start reading more often because i feel like it's the most productive thing i can do while still being lazy at home. i really do enjoy reading (although i haven't read very many books), but the problem is, every time i have some free time to sit down and read, i find myself going online/watching tv/listening to music/doing some other brain-dead task instead.
are there any good ways to help motivate myself to read more often? what did you do to help foster your hobby /lit/?
pic unrelated
>>8254739
finnegans wake
>>8254739
If you really, truly liked reading, the solution would be a lot more simple than you are letting on...pull the trigger
>>8254766
as i said in my original post, i'm not trying to get into reading BECAUSE i like it. i'm trying to get into it so i can stop wasting my life doing pointless shit like posting on 4chan.
even if i don't really, truly like it, i'd still like to do it more often