Looking for a book where the entire book is like one long digression into really weird thoughts, of wherever the author's mind seems to lead.
Totalitarianism in a Tundra
>>8262628
I really enjoyed my time with this book.
Portnoy's Complaint
anyone have recommendations for books by scientists?
pic related
>>8264026
This. Changed my life.
>>8264029
sam harris is chomsky's bitch
Which one of these are the darkest or most abstract?
>>8262525
Didn't you just make this thread last month?
The same answer I gave the last anon with this exact question: The Passive Vampire and Edition 69 for abstract. Dogra Magra, The Blind Owl and Dark Spring are darkest.
Is there any way to find out when a /lit/ suggestion chart was first made?
>>8262525
Kangaroo Notebook is pretty dark but also straight forward, nice imagery of the scenes in hell that really stand out. Valerie and her Week of Wonders is also pretty good but the movie is more popular. Invitation to a Beheading is pretty abstract, I recommend that.
After rereading Oedipus the King it finally dawned on me that there might not be free will. I'm so psyched to continue working my way up the canon. I can't wait to get to Dosto and re-read C&P. It went over my head on the first read, and I thought Ralashnikov was testing law.
>>8262434
>Ralashnikov
kek
have fun reading anon
Now read the Anti-Oedipus to understand how psychology actually works.
Many of the Greek stories had this element. For example, it was prophesied to Priam that his son Paris would cause the destruction of Troy. He was abandoned as a child like Oedipus, but later returned to Troy and... I guess you know the rest. It was a common idea in Greece, a part of their mentality. It's not really the focal point of the play.
Looking for more books like Kafka, Camus, Ryu Mirakami, Ian Banks. Someone recommended me a couple books in another thread, the devil in the white city, the immoralist, and ritual. celine. I have those on my reading list, but I am looking for a longer reading list, I want to have a larger selection of possible books that I can get into. It seems really difficult to find books I actually like, which is ironic because you'd think that not having read many books, I'd actually be open to a lot of possibilities of something good. It just doesn't feel that way, I guess.
I really like dark, esoteric, surreal stuff. I like stuff like Akira, the band Coil, A clockwork Orange, Eraserhead, I'm a huge death metal, black metal, noise, power electronics, industrial, slowcore (and basically anything else that feels real and raw and sad) appreciator. I don't like stuff that feels flowery, I like stuff that feels really raw, like drinking straight scotch. Idk if I should try to find a different forum to ask these questions, if anyone knows another book forum besides reddit, I'd love to go use it. The people on this forum aren't very nice.
Nice bait
>>8262504
man, don't do that please. I don't want a shit fest.
lurk more dude. And read widely.
Anyone read biographies?
Pic related, best biography of all time.
what will this teach me
I'm a big fan of biographies, especially when they're more about what the person stood for instead of the minutiae of life
Some favs:
- The Invention of Nature (Alexander von Humboldt and how his image of a connected nature was a major shift in how mankind saw nature)
- Endgame (Bobby Fisher, chess)
- The Price of Altruism (George Price, altruism/evo biology)
- The Man Who Loved Only Numbers (Erdos, mathematics)
- The Duty of Genius (Wittgenstein and his philosophy)
- A Life Inside The Center (Oppenheimer, atomic bomb project, communist scare)
I've been looking for a while for Power Broker - Aaron Swartz wrote a long article about how it's the best book ever - but the only online version is a shitty converted OCR...
>>8262431
Reading Caro's bio of Lyndon Johnson. It's good, but for fuck sake it's long.
You're approached by this dangerous looking man on the street and he asks you:
>Hey holmes, Plata O PoMo?
How do you respond?
I lick his bandana and run
ooo le epin bandalabamba nachos la geyo faggoto hehehe ;)
>>8262375
As Zombie Harold Bloom I stick my rusted santoku into his chest and twist it once for every sin against literature he ever committed.
Anyone knows if this science fiction novel is any good?
I heard fucking Gordon Freeman (yes the actor) that when he was given the script for RAMA (which never was made, at least yet) he thought it was the best space science novel he have ever read. Also the book was made into a game in the 90's by a software called company called Sierra. So it should be popular I suppose.
>>8262370
Its amazing. But you should be really into scifi, because its heavy and slow
>>8262377
You mean is being into heavy scifi a prerequisite to enjoy it?
I'm biased because I love anything that deals with first contact of aliens, but I think Rama is the finest work of science fiction ever made. I'm sceptical about a movie though, given how terribly inept directors can be when adapting science fiction classics to the big screen (*cough* Lynch).
>7. Consider when, on a voyage, your ship is anchored; if you go on shore to get water you may along the way amuse yourself with picking up a shellish, or an onion. However, your thoughts and continual attention ought to be bent towards the ship, waiting for the captain to call on board; you must then immediately leave all these things, otherwise you will be thrown into the ship, bound neck and feet like a sheep. So it is with life. If, instead of an onion or a shellfish, you are given a wife or child, that is fine. But if the captain calls, you must run to the ship, leaving them, and regarding none of them. But if you are old, never go far from the ship: lest, when you are called, you should be unable to come in time.
What did he mean by this?
He meant this
life is like breath. If you let go of breath it comes back to you, if you hold onto your breath you lose it. The only way to live is to let go of life and accept your death.
>>8262344
Thank you.
What am I in for?
Besides the cover spoiling the plot.
Good prose, boring as hell nonfiction chapters, and a slog of a middle section.
Beginning and ending are both A+ literature, though.
>>8262286
Just fucking read it, for christ's sake. We get these threads about Moby Dick and Ulysses fucking daily. Reading is about as simple a task as there fucking is. One fucking word after another. Children not only could do it, but routinely do. So you're in for a series of words, ideally read sequentially, but if you're like this faggot >>8262291 you'll probably skip half the good parts because they're "boring slog."
Curse this damned interdependence. I would be as free as air and I'm down in the whole internet's asshole.
a lot of unnecessary details about whale biology
Just read this. What did you guys think?
I understand the point he's trying to make about the nature of man and his destruction, but it's very black and white image he paints.
As in, the neanderthals are loving, non-malicious, non-killing scavengers and the humans are destructive, chaotic creatures who perform weird rituals and sacrifice to their gods.
I suppose he had to exaggerate to make his point but still its a bit OTT.
I also likes the neanderthal POV, even though a few paragraphs he goes a bit too far and they make no sense at all, in general well done however.
I also liked the ending of the peuniltimate chapter with the "red creature" and the final chapter is very jarring and finishes off the book well. (Interestingly the again, one of the humans plans to murder the other and take his role as leader. Another example of humans evil nature)
Thoughts? (If anyone here has even read it that is)
I get the feeling either no one has read this or no one can be arsed to discuss a 50 year old book lol
>>8262276
>>8262303
Well thanks OP for the heads up on this book. I'm actually pretty interested in reading this now. Never read any Golding and the only thing I knew of his was Lord of the Flies.
Recently watched Quest for Fire which is about neanderthals and cro magnon. Kind of dated but interesting.
>>8262698
Yeah I would recommend it. At some points the narrative is really hard to follow but i'd suggest trudging through it, its worth it.
Never heard of that till now, worth watching?
You have a budget of £ 50 million and a time limit of 3 years to create something that captures the imagination of the public as much as picrelated. But it must be PATRICIAN and CANON WORTHY and contain SERIOUS PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSION.
Is it even possible? Will you admit defeat and admit that Serious Literature is on par with poetry in terms of being a completely fucking dead medium?
European Extreme mode: It can only be a book.
I know man... this Pokemon shit is really throwing me for a loop especially because I've read and written almost nothing for two days now playing it
>>8262229
I waked for 3 hours yesterday with it, have to travel to take an exam today, so I can't roam around. Doesn't take up my reading time tho.
I admit defeat.
I've updated the Hungary section of wiki's Recommended Reading. The essential works and a list of authors were given, I filled in the list with concrete titles. What's your opinion?
Nem magyarul nem az igazi.
Ábel trilógia? Rejtő?
>>8262179
My opinion is that Hungary gave us a lot of good stuff, but literature isn't one of them.
>>8262234
>literature isn't one of them
what else then?
I've recently want to read the most influential books ever created by man!
ANY SUGGESTIONS?
>>8262014
>Tolkien
>Lee
>Orwell
>THREE L Ron Hubbards
>FOUR Ayn Rands
>no Bible
embarrassing
>"""""""""""""""objectiv"""""""""""""""ism
Why was she allowed to get away with this?
>>8262013
What's up with all these Rand threads lately?
It's the third or fourth I've seen today.
Chill out, pal.
6 million.
She wanted to call it existentialism but it was already taken.