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Honestly, I've put a lot of thought into this, and I think the answer is they did not put a lot of thought into it.

It's only afterwards that we realized the implications of the bomb. Sure some people involved in the project, for years, who were great and broad thinkers, distant from the day to day grind of the war, had some idea of what they were getting into.

But the A-Bomb was dropped because it was a bomb, and we were deploying every weapon we had at the Japanese at that point. For most involved, there was not a question of 'why' anymore than why we deployed the B-29, or napalm, or radar against the Japanese.

For the same reason we'd been using thousand bomber raids to do the same thing to every other city in Japan.

Plus, maybe to avoid an invasion.

The planned invasion of Kyushu also involved atomic bombs, but it made sense to use a couple as part of the strategic bombing campaign while you were mustering forces for the land invasion, on the off chance it got the high command to see sense.

Invasion. If it took months to dislodge a few thousand soldiers from a 5km island in the pacific, imagine fighting tens of thousands of them on their home turf and dealing with the millions of civilians becoming guirella fighters and suicide bombers. The easiest way was to use the brand new city annihilator to intimidate them into surrender.

>>1042624
ALEINS COME DOWN AND MAKE MY OC SONIC CHARACTER EMPORER

alt history is fucking dumb

Woah, I thought the sticky was unstickied for a moment there

>>1042624
>Romans having technology to cross the ocean
They probably wouldn't bother with overseas colonization that far due to MUH ROADS

Hercules would of course be /fit/

>>1042516
>"hercules"
>greek
triggered and rustled

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/b/

McCarthy did nothing wrong

seriously

>>1042415
>define Europe during the Cold War?
Titos Yugoslavia and his break from Stalin

Francos reflective isolationism of Spain from the rest of Europe

The Troubles and the British recession.

De Gaulles France desperately trying to stay relevant post WWII.

As general topics at least.

>>1042415
Communist Europe:
Starvation of Holland 1944 (by the allies) & Indonesian independence

"Stop" order on the French Revolution
"Stop" order on the Italian Revolution
"Stop" order on the Greek Revolution

Defeat of French, Italian and Greek communist movements.

Czechoslovak coup
Rajk Trial (1949)
1949 purges (Anti-"titoist")
Anti-NATO campaign
Stalin's death
Berlin ultraleft riots (1953)
New Course in Hungary, Old Course in Poland
Polish revolution 1956
Hungarian revolution 1956
Czechoslovak movement for workers councils 1968
West German ultraleft including anarchists 1968-1980s
French revolution 1968
Italian revolution 1968-1982
CND / Anti-bases / Anti-bomb campaign 1950s-1990s

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>Great
>Proletarian
>Cultural
>Revolution

Mao did nothing wrong.

>>1042409
Recover what? How?

He was a supersoldier sent back in time by the late-21st century neo-Soviet revolutionaries to ensure the collapse of the Russian Empire.

>>1042234
Autist.

Magical man who just went along with the flow.

>controlling the Caribbean and therefor the lines of communication to Central America is worthless

lolno

>>1042148

This. Coastal forts were essential.

But why settlers spread out into the swamps and plains of the Turd Peninsula is puzzling.

Florida and Alabama (west florida) were Spanish colonies. And for the most part played a major economic strategic point for the rest of the other spanish colonies and former Spanish colonies. There were transportation treaties set up using these areas as no-man's land. Basically anglo-americans promised the spanish-americans a cheaper trade to europe and asia. However the didn't keep their word and instead it ravaged their trade. The legend is that at night the anglos would go around dressed as the spanish during festivities and kill the spanish colonialists. Many spanish colonialists either left or anglicized their names and changed their faith. The name supposedly means what goes around comes around clan. or a corruption of quoi/que clue clan. They would go around burning evidence and testimony.

>>1041942
bump

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memes

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>tfw can't be a self-taught lawyer

>>1041899
Well I think no more than one year should be fully dedicated to your own country's history. There's way too much ancient and world history to cover.

You know you can tell a poster is still pupae or larvae when they post about high school

It's a completely irrelevant and forgettable time in most peoples' lives, psychology babble about a "developmental phase" be damned.

>>1041938
I'm 23 and doing history at university.

High School will be most peoples only foray into history. So it's important that they get taught the right things, lest they will have no idea of the progress or human, or where they stand in relation to it. I have met people who think we've had cars for 1000 years, and someone once said the Romans existed 20,000 years ago. Basic shit like this can't be excused.

>>1041869
>people still believe historical estimates

>>1041869

it's odd, really. the irish are so close to the bongs, yet they did not seem to develop a "salty loser gene" or an "incapability for combat" gene like their inbred, crooked tooth bongfriends did.

>7000 dead
No, it's AT LEAST 7000 dead.

>HAHA BRO YOU DONT EVEN NEED JESUS JUST DON'T BE MEAN TO PEOPLE AND YOU'LL GO TO HEAVEN
t. Pelagius "Scotorum pultibus praegravatus" Britannicus

>>1041772
t. Pelagius

>>1041776
>God creates people just to send the to hell

Where are the Holy Roman Emperors?

>>1041711
Who was that Lucius Verus fella?

>>1041749
Just stop

some ways better, some ways worse

Under the shah, despite the heavy investment from the west and the industrialization, many Iranians remained poor. Following the revolution, despite the fact that political and personal liberties freedoms were just as much if not more severely restricted as before, iran has surprisingly been able to build up its industries and economy to be on par or even better than what the shah was. more people are educated now then under the Shah and despite western embargoes, Iran doesn't really seem to slow down, unlike cuba or north korea.

While not all Iranians at the time of the revolution wanted an Islamic republic, most wanted the shah out. the revolution included marxist and pro democratic forces, but when it was clear that the islamists were the most powerful, their rivals either folded or were purged. Also the invasion by iraq served as an experience to bind the new the government and its people together against a foreign invader, whether they were had supported khomeini earlier or not

If the Shah had stayed in power, he would have died within the next decade or two and his son would probably liberalize the regime under international pressure, and through various spats of corruption and progress would probably be in a similar economic state to today. But the iran of today is what the revolution set out to achieve: a prosperous Islamically ruled nation with the power to project itself in order to fulfill its aims of supporting Shi'a islam as we have seen with its support for Syria or Hezbollah.

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>>1042397
Good reply

>>1041695

>Iranian
>Islamic
>Revolution

I've read the first 50 pages, my copy is about 10 feet away from me, it's pretty good stuff. What's Meredith's background, beyond living in Africa?

>2016
>needing a book to tell you that Africa is a shitty place

>>1041693
>forum
where the fuck do you people come from

cringe thread?

>>1041368
You should join whichever you agree with theologically you fucking idiot. What are you asking 4chan?

OP here
I'm inclined to go with Baptist but I get the impression that they're a bit lightweight. Some traditions should be followed, like fasting for instance.
I basically want a denomination that believes in scripture alone but also follows the traditions taught in the Bible and does not take the Bible 100% literally