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>>1207237
I'm a retard who's interested in Mesoamerica (and studied pre-Columbian North America, as a Mohawk Tribe member), and I only know about the Aztec conquest and the stuff from M2TW.

So, after the Aztecs, how did the Spaniards subjugate the other cities, the ones that allied with the Spanish, the farther away ones, especially the Tarascans, whom it seems, as an AH writer, could've united Mexico following an Aztec collapse in the absence of European contact. Was it more or the same, did they do it through diplomacy as well, did they encounter any organized resistance, and how long did the whole thing take?

>>1207237
how important was Spanish Calvary in the conquest of mexico?

>>1207237
I realize I should probably explain the picture, it is a Tlaxcalan account of the Massacre at Cholula (I have a UN hearing next year to determine if this should be classified as a genocide or not, I am of the opinion it was, with reasons I will explain).


Basically, when Cortés had secured the cooperation of Tlaxcala, Tenochtitlan's rival altepetl (like a city-state but closer to the Sumerian version than the Greek type, having different relatively important differences from each other and each having their own identity rather than seeing themselves as all being Nahua), they stopped at Cholula on the way to Tenochtitlan (thereby forcing Cortes to stay with them) as they saw the support of Caxtilan (the nahua saw Castile as just another altepetl from far away) as the ally they needed to tip the balance of regional hegemony out of the Aztecs' favor. Cholula was a vassal/ally altepetl to Tenochtitlan, so the Tlaxcalans wisely decided to take the city before moving further, lest they have an enemy city at their backs. They blockaded the city, and rather than wait for a long protracted siege, the Tlaxcalans stormed the city, killing every man they could find. Not to be left out, the Spaniards followed suit. The tlaxcalans, however, did what the Spanish would *not* do, which was to round up the women and children in the sacred ball court and set them on fire. Around 30,000 lived were lost in total.

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>>1207032
>Why does China suck at war?
yeah burger, that's the right way to go. just piss'em off.

>>1207048

Is that CIA?

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>>1207032
>muh art of war

easy access

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>implying you need pants to be a man

Barbarian shits please leave

>>1206827
t. scotsman trying to disguise himself as a roman

>>1205766
This is a scholarly board based on reasonable discussion where we focus on humanities. If you want to talk about the paranormal, there's a board for that.

Basically, Satan despises humans because we are gods creation, and god loves us more than him. Satan then starts sinning because of the hatred and disobeying god, so God sent him to hell. Satan then uses hell in order to torture those who get out of the true path and all of that.

He just really hates us. A LOT.

>>1205816
The bible is a very common topic on this board
>>1205849
I have heard from theologists that Hell is punishment for Satan too, and this implies that he is not in control of hell at all and is suffering just like anyone else there. This would make his ability to tempt us to sin very inrealistic in my mind. I have also heard that hell does not punish anyone including Satan until judgement day comes.

>China said on Friday that Japan’s World War II violence is more worthy of remembrance than the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, ahead of a historic visit by U.S. President Barack Obama.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/china-says-nanjing-more-worthy-of-remembrance-than-hiroshima

I don't understand Chinese people sometimes. There's a time and place for everyting.

It probably wasn't necessary, but it was practical.

hiroshimmie sure. they were trying out a weapon that maybe wouldn't have worked. and revenge isn't the worst ideoology
nagasaki is imo an act of cruelty and 1 bomb was enough

>inb4 le 2 bombs weren't enough maymay

>>1203570
Also, any rebuttal to his "Why I am not a Christian"?

> The whole conception of God is a conception derived from the ancient Oriental despotisms. It is a conception quite unworthy of free men. When you hear people in church debasing themselves and saying that they are miserable sinners, and all the rest of it, it seems contemptible and not worthy of self-respecting human beings.

>There are a great many ways in which, at the present moment, the church, by its insistence upon what it chooses to call morality, inflicts upon all sorts of people undeserved and unnecessary suffering. And of course, as we know, it is in its major part an opponent still of progress and improvement in all the ways that diminish suffering in the world, because it has chosen to label as morality a certain narrow set of rules of conduct which have nothing to do with human happiness; and when you say that this or that ought to be done because it would make for human happiness, they think that has nothing to do with the matter at all. "What has human happiness to do with morals? The object of morals is not to make people happy."

>>1203570
kukolding is truly the thinking man's fetish.

really makes you think....

>>1203571
if you want repressive moralism- Jesus was the very man. This is the man who equated lustful thoughts with adultery.

None?

Stalingrad, just to see the plume of smoke that formed a cross over the city.

Or Verdun just to see the destruction.

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Heraclea, as a war elephant

They should.

The best thing I ever did in my life was reading the Classics.

If there is anything that would improve the lives of people via education is this.

>>1193807
Because modernity offers an adequate canon?

>>1193845
Learning philosophy and reading classic literature would only enrich their education.

>>1208692
Very very short answer: the mainstream national narrative is one of continuity from Vercingetorix to François Hollande. Plenty of variations exist, obviously, but still the 'official' story is that each period and regime put something new into the big edifice that was France. Even Louis Bonaparte is remembered for his important economic reforms and the way he reconstructed Paris and other major cities and all that.

If anything, the narrative is harsh on losers: Louis XVI, Robespierre, Charles X... all get a fairly cold treatment not because of their respective agenda but rather because they failed in what they were trying to achieve (if they have had such goals). I think it goes to show that what the French worship more than anything is grandeur nationale.

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>>1208789
>Very very short answer: the mainstream national narrative is one of continuity from Vercingetorix to François Hollande.
Somehow I find this relieving. Part of me feared French attempts to erase their own history. Vercingetorix being included is pretty weird though, didn't the French traditionally consider Clovis their first king?

>France is only country to overthrow monarchy
You speak English but you don't even know English history, get back in your mine pleb

>>1208481
Slovenians are descended from Slavs who migrated into the Balkans during the dark ages

The name is from Proto-Slavic *slověninъ, which basically meant 'people who can speak', as opposed to the unintelligble foreigners, *němьcь

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/slov%C4%9Bnin%D1%8A

>>1208495
Funny thing, we still to this day call germans "Nemci", wich means "mutes"

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>>1208481
HOL UP
*smacks potica*
YOU BE SAYING
*evades taxes*
SO HOL UP
*builds house without a license*
YOU SAYING
*builds kozolc*
WE WUZ HYPERBOREA N SHIEEEET

>>1208408

>diversity

Daily reminder that egalitarians can't actually believe in diversity.

>>1208408
diversity
participation
equality
education
technological advancement
peace (external)
peace (internal)
individualism
prosperity (economic)
spirituality
homogeneity

>>1208408
Phoneposting so apologies for format

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>>prosperity (economic)
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>>spirituality
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>>technological advancement
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>>1208280
You probably couldn't handle it tbqh.

>armies don't reward you with land loot slaves and the virginal women of the conquered any more and haven't for quite some time
Why even wage war any more? For cheap medals?

>>1208333
Pretty sure ISIS still does this.

I only respect the hellenic ones that actually read up upon all the stuff believers like cicero or ancient philosophers wrote about gods in a way that results in a modernity-compatible religion that doesnt get btfo by the first abrahamic theologician that pokes holes in it.

half nazis half stupid nerds
actually they're all stupid nerds but half of them are nazis

>>1208091
Well, you could argue that other legit ethnocentric religions like yazidis are nazis too them because they are ethnocentric.

& humanities was a mistake

Some americans are retarded in a very special way?

HP is like 600 pages a book.

Aint no class in america that got time fo that

yeah

>Not changing the trajectory you're rolling

baka desu senpai

>>1208197
>he isn't woke
>>1207705

that book was so lightly written yet still very difficult to understand