/hpg/ - Headphone General

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What's the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>61717475
Should I get the HD600?

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nth for dt990

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>>61717494
>>61717475
Dumb HD 600 poster

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>>61717500
Obviously. They're the most neutral full-sized headphones available.

>>61717500
If you like n shaped sound signatures, go for it

>>61717509
To be fair Op probably isn't always the same, >>61676749 for example had Beyers on the pic.

>>61717494
I have borrowed a ton of headphones from work and I think the ATH-R70x and SRH1840 deserve more discussion. I would easily put both ahead of or right behind the HD600.

>>61717503
how do you like those dt990s?

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>>61717538
How can we know you own HD 600s?
>>61703579
Any not just blindly shilling frequency response graphs?

>>61717538
>GoldenEars

>>61717538
>Weak bass
>Recessed treble
>No soundstage
At least they're flat

>>61717558
interesting. what's the most overrated ones you've tried?

>>61717558
Agreed, i think the reason people don't talk more often of other headphones is simply because they haven't tested that many. I doubt most posters have even tested the Big Three they like to shill and shitpost about so much.

>>61717571
This argument has been debunked.
>>61717584
>Weak bass
>Recessed treble
These have been debunked. A narrow soundstage is not a drawback.

>>61717605
>The big three
Is the third AKG or HiFiMan?

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>>61717613
>Debunked
Is this some kind of new meme?

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>>61717635
This graph has been debunked by this image.

>>61717619
AKG, Big three is how people reffered to HD650, DT880 and K701 when they were some of the best headphones out there, of course later came HD600 and the many versiong of the K701, so you can debate which one fits better i suppose.

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>>61717561
I like them alot more now than I know how to pick an amp for any given headphone(ohms law is hard lol). I drove them off the dragonfly there and they sounded fucking horrible and screechy and I imagine they would sound the same way on the E10k(best selling amp with them on amazon) because it can't do 25mw at 250ohm.
On the DAC-X6 they're awesome for what I listen to which is mostly electronically made garbage. All the songs in pic related sound wonderful on them.
They're so polarizing though, some people react with blind hate and disgust at their mention. Advise buying from somewhere with easy returns if you do get them. Seriously, some people have said the treble causes them actual pain but I haven't had that experience at all.

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>>61717647
Woah mama! Are you going to say I can't read graphs either? Has this graph been debunked too?

>>61717668
>I can't read

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>>61717668
How about this "poorly sealed" graph such as this one?

>>61717680
If you have to ask, you can't read.

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>>61717677
>>61717680
>>61717689
Then let's learn! You and me, how about that? Let's start with this graph!

If I like the SHP9500 would I like the HD600?

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>>61717701
How about this, has it been debunked too?

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How do I know if I need a DAC for the hd600

>>61717710
Yup; similar FR. Noticeably less soundstage on the HD 600 though.

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>>61717716
How about these?

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>>61717753
Wrong pic

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>>61717753
ALL DEBUNKED

HD600 IS PERFECT I SAY

>>61717768
Any graphs not showing the same consistent pattern demonstrated by the five well-sealed graphs in >>61717647 are poorly-sealed and thus invalid. You would understand this by now if you knew how to read.

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>>61717768
>>61717790
>Poorly sealed
Ahhh, back to the poorly sealed meme, eh anon?

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>>61717800
How poorly sealed are these headphones?

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>>61717821
If you look closely, you can almost see it resemble the Sennheiser logo.

>pretending not to understand simple logic while spamming poorly sealed measurements
Now this is shitposting.

>>61717738
What is soundstage?

>>61717738
I want to upgrade from my ATH-AD900X, how does HD600's soundstage feel like during movies? I want to buy them with a schiit stack but all the comments about the narrow soundstage make me a bit more sceptical.

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:^) friendly reminder that all dynamic driver meme cans have highly audible thd in the bass/midbass regions.

>>61717845
Thank you! I sure hope you can "debunk" my "poorly sealed" measurements more.

>>61717853
They should still be fine; they're just a bit narrow, and not that deep in general. If you get what i'm saying. Everything else is similar though.

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Looking for wireless buds, what would be best for the price? Airpods or the schatzii bullet 2.0 stereo earbuds? Or neither? Budget can be up to about 300 bucks, so not too concerned about pricing. Was also looking at the $130 rowkin buds but they have a lot of bad reviews saying the right bud losses signal rather often, what would you guys recommend? Not an applefag btw, just looking for good wireless buds and the airpods seem to hold up.

Here's links:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KPG6BLK

https://www.schatzii.com/bullet-series/the-bullet-2-detail

https://www.apple.com/airpods/

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>>61717844
From Massdrop and Sennheiser. Is this a poorly sealed set too?

>>61717860
If I do it'll be the thousandth time they've been debunked. Have fun not being able to read.

>>61717585
In our threads? IEMs as a whole really. They're very rarely suggested or discussed and while yeah big over ears can be more comfortable you can get equal (sometimes superior) SQ at the same price and get mobility.
Also I think BA drivers are some of the best suited ones for modern music because of how fast it is at times

>>61717883
Thanks, I hope the schiit stack will be good enough, from what I've read they are easier to drive than HD650.

This is a reminder that DiPolarDisorder is a shitposting troll who intentionally spreads factually incorrect misinformation such as "hrtf graphs have an inverse relationship with how a headphone should measure," refuses to back up his claims with credible evidence because he cannot and tells anyone who proves him wrong they "can't read." His HRTF claim has been thoroughly debunked by:
https://rinchoi.blogspot.com/2010/05/headphone-equalization.html
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-frequency-response-part-one
http://hauptmikrofon.de/theile/1986-3_Standardization-of-studio-headphones_JAES-1986.pdf
http://vbn.aau.dk/files/227876689/2008_Hammersh_i_and_M_ller_AAA.pdf
Do not take anything he says seriously, especially headphone recommendations.
>in b4 he falsely claims he has debunked these links while refusing to link to said "debunking"

>>61717945
Kek. Thanks for the laugh.

You sure you own the HD 600s?

>>61717965
Daily reminder:
>>61703579
Beware the shill

>>61717857
THD measurements are a poor indicator of audibility. Measurements which separate harmonic distortion by 2nd, 3rd, etc. harmonic are far more useful, as it's the odd order harmonics which will be the nasty sounding ones. One shouldn't read too much into THD measurements.
Harmonic distortion is also extremely difficult to hear in the bass region. It's not audible on any of those headphones.

https://soundcloud.com/durandalmusic/speaker-test

Test your niggerbass levels

>>61718035
>Soundcloud
A shit

>>61718035
ASMR

>>61717857
>>61718019
http://gedlee.azurewebsites.net/Papers/Distortion_AES_I.pdf
http://gedlee.azurewebsites.net/Papers/Distortion_AES_II.pdf
> In our next paper we will show that .01% THD of one type of nonlinear system can be perceived as unacceptable while 10% THD in another example is perceived as inaudible. Even one of these simple examples is sufficient to invalidate THD as a viable metric for discussion of the perception of distortion. Furthermore, 1% THD is not at all the same as 1% IM, but we will show that neither correlates with subjective perception.
>These results supported the skepticism that THD and IMD metrics were poor predictor of subjective perception of sound quality ratings.
tl;dr: You wasted your time making the image in >>61717857 because THD measurements are fairly useless in terms of representing audibility.

>>61717965
>MOOOOMMM MOOOMMMM THW TRIPFAG MADE A POST I DONT AGREE WITH IM GONNA PWN HIM WITH THIS POST!!!
>i don't care son, please take your risperdal and leave me alone

>>61717965
>HE THINKS THE HD600S ARE BAD RED ALERT RED ALERT! CONTACT THE THOUGHT POLICE! INVALIDATE ALL OF HIS CLAIMS BY MISINTERPRETING A BUNCH OF SOURCES! CHERRY PICK GRAPHS! MAKE THE SAME POST EVERY THREAD! RED ALERT!!!

>>61717965
So can you seriously fuck off? No one cares. You're worse than the fucking tripfag.

>>61718223
>shitty retard tripfag gets BTFO by peer-reviewed scientific study for the umpteenth time
This never gets old.

>>61717965
>Calls tripfag a shitposting troll
>Has made the same useless shitpost every thread
>Suggests hd600s regardless of requested form factor, sound signature and source
>Literally spams BUY HD600S no matter what an anon asks for

Literally cancer.

>>61717965
He is the lesser of two evils, the other evil being you who only shitposts without any real contribution to the thread...

>>61718312
Fucking shill doesn't even own HD 600s.

>>61718223
does anyone online measure what nonlinearity is? not that I even know what it is since I just skipped to the last paragraph.

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>>61718193
Had to google this. It's very interesting.

It's not possible that a dollar store $1 USB 2.0 extender could negatively affect my dac or is it?
I'm thinking digital means it works or it doesn't and the point of the dac is to take the digital and turn it into analog so it's impossible for it to matter. Kind of like HDMI cables, it works or it doesn't.

>>61718312
Why are you making assumptions about the posting behavior of an anonymous poster, anon? That's pretty paranoid and shitposty of you.

>>61718513
Asmr is one of the most interesting things I've heard of in recent memory relating to hearing for sure.

Kinda wish I had it, sounds like a blast.

>>61718659
>t. the anonymous poster himself

>>61717821
Not at all. The headphone just looks defective or broken.

>>61718223
You don't have to look to the self-aggrandizing Geddes to find a paper trying to "do THD better". Every few years for the last 80 or so years someone put out a paper trying to do a better job.
You don't even need to look to the journals if you understood the issue properly. There is a colossal amount of evidence against it.

>>61718371
They do. It (non-linear time-invariant distortion) is listed under harmonic distortion.
Characterizing such systems is easy via power series, but still not too realistic other than possible exceptions of certain digital operations.
Most people seem content with this level of modeling though.

You guys ever throw on a secondary pair of headphones that you almost never use and just get totally blown away by them?
I really suggest having a few pairs of headphones if you can afford it.
Using my IEMs that I almost never use on a dac/amp I almost never use and jamming the fuck out.
Just gonna buy out all the mid-fi cans

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>>61718938
Yeah, I have HD600s and JVC SZ2000s. Moving between them, even with EQ on the SZ, organic sounds /acoustic music sounds much more life-like with the HD600.

Then I listen to some electronic tracks with a bass drop and remember why I have the S2K, its night and day, getting gently caressed with a feather or hit with a sledgehammer of bass.

>>61719111
>JVC SZ2000
Do they do bass well, have a shit load of bass, or both?
I'm currently looking into the fostex thx00 because I heard its really great for electronic music

>>61719142
TH-X00 got dat bass

>>61719100
Kek. Sennheiser shills could have done that way back before they started shitting up the thread with their spam

>>61719100
Than why don't you do it already and stop bugging us with your shitposting?

>>61719100
How to have a more enjoyable /hpg/ experience.
1. Realize that /hpg/ is a cancerous thread where the same 2-3 Sennheiser shills suggest the same veiled and hard to drive headphones for everyone and gang up on anyone who says otherwise
2. Stop going on /hpg/
3. Enjoy whatever you buy.

>>61719100
S-stop you're hurting my Fifi's :^(
I'm sorry the hd600s suck it's not my fault.

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>>61719100
>Cancer free

But that doesn't get rid of the shillheiser shitposters.

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>>61719142
>do they do bass well
yeah, look they're not the most accurate, but accurate enough, and make up for it in other ways

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>>61719277
Nor the cancer in the headphones

>Budget
$100 hard limit
>Location
US
>Source
desktop PC
>Type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
comfortable for hours with glasses on
>Past headphones
DT 770 Pro (I don't like the cord, I need something longer and lighter or wireless)

>>61719294
Audio Technica M40X
Status Audio CB-1

Day 2, the HE400i are still a disappointment with no sub-bass, very weak bass, spike at 9k and right pad slightly thicker than left pad. The HD600 are better in every way except I prefer the shorter cable of the HE400i and their more open design and soundstage.

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/hpg/ + /mkg/ collaboration, post your headphone with your mechanical keyboard.

>>61719314
You clearly have a defective pair

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>>61719314
>No sub-bass
>Planars
Man, if you were going to shill HD 600s, at least be more subtle...

>>61719329
C-can /spg/ join in too?

>>61719314
Pic + time stamp.

>>61718938
KSC75, especially considering their cost. They have an amazing way of making audiophiles reconsider the hundreds/thousands they've spent.

>>61719314
What is your amp/source? Also I'm 90% sure something is defective with the drivers. Planars have amazing sub-bass and mid-bass reproduction

>>61719314
Did you really expect better from Chinkshit?

>>61717965
>post this
>get multiple samefag damage control responses
Every time.

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>>61719384

>>61719474
>No sub-bass
Are you sure you don't have a defective headphone?

>>61719445
Fulla 2
Vali 2
Marantz SR5001

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>>61719329
Okay
I spent 10 minutes trying to pick a keyboard.

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>>61719346
Sure, the more the merrier.

>>61719469
>Also believes the "Sennheiser troll" is on person
>Unironically believe the "Sennheiser troll" is the tripfag
Why am I not surprised?

>>61719469
>Gets mad that his shitposts gets returned shitposts
>"It's someone samefagging!"
>It's too hard to accept the fact that you're more hated than the tripfag.

any decent bluetoooth headphones with no or little exposed wireing and at least 14 hours battery life on max volume must be compact enough to work in

>>61719512
>>61719474
>>61719329
How do you guys have such good cameras, damn

>>61717475
>look into M1060
>earpads are glued on
what the fuck??

every single headphone just has to have a big glaring flaw

>>61719502
It's gotta be a defective pair then.

>>61719574
or you're wrong.

>>61719580
>Planars
>No Sub-bass
>HiFiMan
>HE400i not defective
Or you're retarded

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>>61719580
No not really.

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>>61719329
Elear anon reporting

>>61719574
Shit I just don't see trying to return something for no bass going well but I will try, bought them from hifiman on ebay.

>>61718513
>>61718665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDTlvagjJA
soundstage test

>>61719700
>HiFiMan
>Ebay
Those two shouldn't mix. But... Why buy them off of ebay?

>>61719606
Not even the same model.

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>>61719564
That's not the M1060's biggest flaw.

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>>61719755
Here's one from InnerFidelity
>No sub bass

>>61719700
Say that the driver is distorting and that you are getting no bass output. If you get a second pair that doesn't work well, then just return them and look elsewhere for planar magnetics. I didn't have any complaints about my pair of 400s but maybe things have changed since then who knows.

Your sources are powerful enough, they're not being underdriven. Something is obviously defective. I'm not bamboozling you either, every reviewer and every graph point to these headphones having incredible bass.

>>61719641
burning-hot-envy.jpg

>>61719767
>>61719737

>>61719641
Noice

>>61719767
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/HiFiMANHE4002014.pdf
>doesn't say HE-400i in upper right
Can't be sure that's an HE-400i.

>>61719523
What do you think about the form factor of the LG neckband headsets?

>>61719445
It's not that it is a flat diaphragm, it's that planar dynamics are often designed to minimize leak rather than deliberately introduce it as most conventional coil dynamics do. It's not inherent.

>>61719755
You still don't have any clue what that means, do you?

>>61719790
Dude...

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>>61719841
Forgot pic and link https://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-measurements

>>61719855
They are before the switch to 2.5mm jacks which supposedly sound different

>>61719870
Source?

>>61719855
I'm aware that the link says HE-400i. The .pdf itself does not say HE-400i. We cannot assume that the link nor the .pdf is mistaken. We cannot assume it is an HE-400 and we cannot assume it is an HE-400i.

>>61720106
In addition, we cannot assume that anon's pair is faulty even if that's an HE400i measurement. A headphone with flat bass response will sound lighter in the bass than an HD600, which has literally boosted bass from 30 Hz and up. It's entirely reasonable that anon might perceive a headphone with flat bass response as less bassy than an HD600.

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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>>61720148
Fuck off, we have a special guest
>>61719329
Post your headphones there. You'd be the first of your headphones in line.

>>61719921
I don't have an official source but the general consensus seems to be that when they switched to 2.5mm connectors they also removed a back plate from the driver.

>>61720106
Tyll's typo-word ratio is fairly high for someone who has to serve as editor. It shows the significantly reduced midrange distortion compared to the 400, and significant changes to its design.

>>61720132
Serious question: do you think the HD 600 is bassy?

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>>61719329
Does a cheap mk counts? Picked the closest headphone.

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>>61720148 >>61719329
Idol trash here, /hpg/ + /mkg/ edition.
What's your setup like, Anon?

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Is there a point to investing in a sound card if you're going to use an external DAC and amplifier?

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>>61720597
kool you kit

>>61720623
The external amp and DAC will replace the soundcard.

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r8

>>61720623
No

>>61720652

I asked this question on le reddit too and they said that in this scenario certain soundcards can still add EQ/DSP/Surround options. True or false? I'm with you at the moment, my initial googling led me to believe that when you output to a DAC, you are just transmitting the raw 1s and 0s of the content unaltered.

>>61720717
kys/10

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Anyone else can't wait for mrspeakers ether e to BTFO 8k+ electrostatic system for under 3k

Im getting the Magni 2 and HD600..

Am I going to need a DAC?

>>61720791
U first

>>61720807
No

>>61720812
I'll join in if anon does it too

>>61720823
You sure?

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I have a kwestion -- at one point do you need to pay attention to the cable your are connecting to your headphones? I know normally in the digital world they say "get whatever is cheapest it's just 1s and 0s" but when you're dealing in an analog signal is there a difference?

Bonus: Does a more powerful amp allow you to transmit over a longer cord? What is the typical "max length" a patch cable can be before you start to have degradation?

>>61720837
You don't 'need' it more than amp. Amp is required to power your headphones, get a dac if you need to get rid of electric noise or to get a clearer sound.

>>61720851
Cables is arguably the most important part in an audio setup. I say drop the most money on the most quality wires you can find.

>>61720807
FFS PEOPLE. YOU ALREADY HAVE A DAC. YOU LITERALLY CANNOT LISTEN TO MUSIC WITHOUT A DAC. OH YOU MEAN AN _EXTERNAL_ DAC??????

>>61720597
Lower the brightness of your keyboard indication LEDs and schiit LEDs. Both of them are blindingly bright.

>>61720890
No shit

>>61720903
>hurr do I need a DAC?

Apparently it's not no shit.

>>61720916
When some one says dac, it's a fair assumption that they are going to mean an external one

>>61720717
Nice dap, is that a fiio x5?

>>61720851
>>61720851
This. Think of 1s and 0s as people, and when people are unhappy, much like in real life, they refuse to work. The higher the quality the cable, the better the 1s and 0s. Simple as that. The more expensive the product, the higher quality it is; this is always the rule of thumb.

>>61720851
you pay attention to them when you can objectively prove they are the source of an issue

>tfw fell for DAC meme
well how else was I going to know beforehand there was no difference to my mobo audio

>>61721077
Probably because you have poorfag headphones or listen to shit source material.

>>61721088
All dacs measure objectively the same, and in double blind listening tests are indistinguishable.

>>61721088
DAC is a digital signal like the name applies. It only works or it doesn't. Looks like you got scammed.

>>61721148
That because the dacs weren't properly sealed

>>61721148
Sauce on this faggot . You can't really expect my chord Dave sounding the same as an onboard dac

>>61721180
>Chord Dave
He... Really fell for it...

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back to this meme after running HD800s for a year
i forgot how small the soundstage is

>>61721196
Fell for what? Having the most reference dac ever created

>>61721180
>>61721196
Fuck, I can't find the price. How much did it cost? Sounds expensive, anon.

>>61721214
>being a stagelet

>>61721220
I don't really care to be honest. What you buy is what you buy and who am I to say otherwise. What headphones do you use and how much did the DAC cost?

>>61721148
You're full of shit. Maybe past ODAC/Modi but sub $100 there's definitely some trash out there. Besides it's 100 bucks. Why not just go ahead and eliminate any possibility?

>>61721180
Lmao

>>61720902
They are. Thankfully they do come at an angle where they do not bother me.
A 470Ω resistor should be standard for these things. I wonder when the bright AF led trend will go away.

>>61718938
I do it all the time, i'm particularly found of my V6, but enjoy all the others as well, still, i'm going to sell at least two of them, don't really see the point of having several options anymore, i always endup listening to the same ones.

>>61721180
I don't believe you. Pic (+ timestamp) please.

>>61721289
What would anon gain for timestamping?

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>>61719329
You can't get a normal (not razer gayming bullshit) mechanical keyboard here without paying up the ass for shipping so I went with the least bullshit Cherry switch keyboard that I could get here
it's not as pretty but it works, so consider me utilitarian

>>61721304
People here would take him a tiny bit more seriously.

>>61721214
wrong or no amp

>>61721266
I use lightdims on mine. Any bright LED can fuck right off.

>>61721325
>On an anonymous board
OK, if you insist..

>>61721346
Stop trying to downplay yourself you liar.

>>61721341
NFB-11

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>>61721376
What the fuck, nigga? Get that shit outta my face!

>>61721406
Time stamp or you don't have it

>>61721258
you underestimate motherboards nowadays. Sound cards haven't even been a thing for at least a decade.

>>61721426
>>61721341
You're fucking autistic

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my headphones are see through

>>61721431
isnt that normal for electrostatic

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>>61721426
I have NFB-1

>>61721415
Nice photoshop

>>61721448
yes

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>>61721406
>audio-gd
built by frosty chinks

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>>61721453
I'll prove my innocence any way you want, anon. All I want in return is an apology afterwards, you jealous kike

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>>61721430
only one (you)

>>61721484
Send nudes with time stamp then I'll believe you, you weeb slut

>>61721465
don't knock audio-gd until you try them, great for the money
im sure >>61721451 can confirm

>>61721501
I'm a dude, anon. That's gay, dude!

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>>61721506
Another sale and I'll be able to pick up some more scarves.

>>61721506
Yeah, it's definitely good, lots of detail and the sound signature isn't bright like other sabre dacs are. It sounds better than what you'd usually get for $600.

I also have a modded R2R Parasound DAC. I want a Soekris DAC. I won't sell the NFB-1.

>>61721529
Well don't get caught lying friendo.

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>>61721620
baka

>>61721567
Nigga you've spent enough on snake oil. Donate your shekels to Israel or something.

>>61720799
won't be <3k when that fat fuck zeos reviews them

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>>61721567
>>61721180
So on a scale of 1 to absolute degeneracy, how mad would you be to learn that I have my tube integrated amp plugged directly through my TV's built in dac and rca outputs?

>>61721258
I'm not. Terrible dacs on motherboards are a meme and have been a non-issue since 2010. Nowadays, most Mobo manufacturers integrate totl dac chips and discrete output stages, sometimes even high impedence headphone amps

>>61721744
I don't get mad just wish I could be satisfied the same with your ignorance.

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>>61721744
yeah that's some heresy there

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>>61721744
>he actually uses a tube amp
>he's fat

>>61721744
>>>/fit/

Maybe you should improve your life instead of shitposting on a headphone thread.

>>61721768
>Only sees legs
>Somehow determines I'm fat.

I'm a healthy weight anon, don't worry.

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>>61721744
Your feet aren't cute, but Sennshills BTFO!

>>61721790
Those are definitely fatman feet.

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>All these buttmad replies to the tripfag

>>61721820
>cankles
Fat as fuck.

>>61721766
What model amp?

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>>61721820
>Pic related
I love you, you fucking tripfag

I wonder what the Sennshill have..

can someone recommend an equalizer app for android?

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>>61721829
>>61721787
>Shitheiser posters resort to unfounded claims of me being overweight based on my feet
>>61721829
>This is a kankle

Are you sure you're not just mad it's not a pair of stockings?

>>61721820
Ugh, trim those nails...

>>61721884
Ok, dude. Enough feet. Nice amp though

>>61721893
At least you pointed out something reasonable <3 I definitely need a trim

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>>61721906
Thank you! Here's moar amp.

>>61721820
>>61721884
This a tech board foot degenerates get out

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>>61721869
I seriously wonder how the trapfags pose to not make their feet look like lumps.

>>61721935
... and that's why i don't buy used headphones!

>>61721935
Seriously good taste in headphones. And nice feet, unlike the tripfag.

>>61721935
>being this fat

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>>61721935
Post AMP your instead of showing your shilled-to-death headphones, anon. Your fucking toes look like mini twinkies

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>>61721957
>not wanting cummies preloaded in your headphones
>>61721965
Thanks anon
>>61721969
>>61721984
I'm not fat. This is my amp.

>>61722016
>I'm not fat.
Your fucking ankles are gone. You don't have wrists either, do you ?
What about your neck, is that still there ?

>>61722016
¿are you trolling or can the xbone controller really power the meme600s?

New tale of shit chapter.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up.701900/page-1542#post-13636532

>>61722025
I'm not posting any more pics for you to fap to.
>>61722026
It's a little known fact but the Xbone controller actually has an ES9018K2M DAC and an amp which provides 7W at 32 ohm.

>>61721820
>>61721884
>>61721935
Posting feet online gets you bullied. Surprise!

>>61722059
Honestly that's absolutely insane and if you're not trolling that makes the xbone controller the best budget dac/amp combo available

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>>61722078
I'm just memeing here's my real amp. Ferrero rocher stickers have a better effect than brilliant pebbles and it makes my amp look premium.

>>61722110
I'm sure it adds plenty of hazelnut to the midrange

>>61717494
braindead

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>>61722110
These sound more refreshing though.

>>61719502
How is Vali 2 with HD600, HOW IS IT I MUST KNOW PLEASE. Also, try alfa pads, masdrop version comes with them afaik. Is it me or HiFiMemes is getting rid of HD4xx series for a new ones? Sub 200 is too cheap even for a chinaman, profit margins must be real low. I hope that they improve the build quality and stock pads on a potential refresh.

>>61721744
Does it really makes a difference with speakers? It's very noticeable with headphones but I hears once tube amp vs SS on a pair of speakers and change was very, very small to my ears and could have been easily just a confusion and conformation bias.

>>61722538
https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/sennheiser/hd-600/with/schiit/vali-2

Power-wise, it does more than suffice. Can't say about sound, but schiit tube amps try for transparency, so it should be the same as solid state.

>>61717494
HD580

Just got some in-ear headphones.

How long does it take to adjust to having something stuck in your ear? I like them for convenience and use during workouts, but it just feels weird.

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Budget
~$350
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone and computer
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
Neutral

Also what's your opinion on noise cancelling headphones? I was wanting wireless headphones and I was looking at Bose quietcumfart 35 headphones. Anyone else have any better bang for buck suggestions?

>>61722951
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/04/19/bose-headphones-have-been-spying-on-their-customers-lawsuit-claims/

>>61723136
What the fuck

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>>61723146
BOSE is botnet.

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>>61717475
guys what's up with those hd600? should I get it

>>61723365
If you want an 'n' shaped headphone with narrow soundstage and good imaging, sure. You'll need an amp for it though.

>>61723365
Post nudes then we can talk

>>61723365
Yes, the hd600 is a safe pick.
There's plenty of reviews of it on the internet, and they're favorable.
>>61723377
It's fine plugged to anything, in my experience.

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Oh man, look what I have here.

I hate the HD 600 memers who are shitposting the whole time in these threads, but I truly find the Sennheisers to be better than the DT 880.

I used to have tinnitus after using the DT 880, no jokes. The "distant" sound of the mids made me raise the volume far too much, and after long listening sessions I had hearing fatigue. But I loved the HD 600 since the day I bought them. I feel that the veil is just a meme.

>>61723284
I would enjoy taking a shit on that

>>61723504
Isn't the Sennheiser veil more associated with the 650s than anything else?

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>>61723605
It looks comfy if anything.

>>61723605
Have fun with the piss stains on the leather

>>61718665
>https://soundcloud.com/durandalmusic/speaker-test
After a few years of videos you lose the feeling. I also would get headaches after 15+ mins anyway.

>>61718035
Put a fresh battery in my skullcandy crushers, cranked the bass on them, and smashed the EQ for maximum bass response.

Boy was that a mistake! The crushers almost shook themselves off my head.

>>61723504
I own them too and think they are very good. I just hate the /hpg/ shitposting surrounding them.

They aren't endgame for me though as I like niggerbass

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hey /hpg/ - I've had my Sennheiser HD558's for almost 5 years now. They still sound amazing but I'm considering upgrading. Ideally ~$200 but I'd be willing to go up to $300. Opinions?
Would use for everyday listening and DAW playback.

>>61723716
HD600

I read a review saying that the part that connects the Beyerdynamic Custom Studio's cups to the headband is weak and breaks easy.

That's not true, is it?

I ordered a pair of them yesterday.

>>61723809
Just don't twist the cups around like they lay flat a lot or treat your headphones like shit. They'll be fine.

>>61723716
The natural upgrade path is HD600.
Do not go for any HD5xx, as they'd be a sidegrade at best (except the HD580, of course, but the HD600 are likely cheaper at this point).

>>61723844
Thanks, I generally take pretty good care of my shit, I was just worried for a moment that it they were made of some particularly brittle plastic.

>Budget
up to£80
>Location
UK
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Over ear, Closed back preferably with leather type earpads and a lot of passive noise cancelling.
>Comfort level
yes please
>Sound signature
As flat and neutral as possible
>Past headphones
DT 990, just looking for something more closed and a little more comfortable to listen to, sometimes it's a bit harsh on the bass/treble to enjoy when I'm not in the mood for it

Currently spotted the HM5 and mx40

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>>61724224
Bythe Sony mae 10000xt

I bought the 1more triple driver
How did I do

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>Budget
~100€
>Location
Deutschland
>Source
phone, laptop
>Type of headphone
over
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
comfy max
>Sound signature
neutral/warm? i hear everything. from chopin(classic) to neophyte(hardstyle).
>Past headphones
audeo phonak pfe 012 and audeo phonak 112 on green/black filter.

looking for an allrouder with good noise isolation for office work.
i know the basic rec from a few years ago.
>ath m50x
>beyer custom one pro
>dt770pro 32ohm
dt770pro was/is on my top spot. but has literally nothing changed since 2014? 770 still rules surpreme on this price range?

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So I've got a Dragonfly Black in the mail, since I saw loads of good reviews for it, but now I'm seeing a few reviews saying it really didn't sound all that much better than their phone/computer's built in audio.

Did I get meme'd on?
Please tell me the Dragonfly black at least sounds better than pic related.

>>61725300
You got the fuck meme'd out of you.

>>61725317
So then what's the best portable DAC then?
I'd like something that sounds better than the included lightening adapter.

My headphones are Beyerdynamics Custom Studios.

why does this come up first when you search 'csg'?

>>61725398
because 'csg' is in the pasta

>>61725398
Because OP's post says buy poorfag headphones from csg? I don't know why.

>>61725355
>Sounds better
Is the current setup too quiet?

>>61725490
It sounds flat compared to my iPhone 6.
I'd do an a/b test, but I can't since the only reason I got a 7 was that my 6 got fried.

Give me 3 reasons I shouldn't buy this right now, other than

>eey goy buy this item now that it's totally legitimately 92% off

relogio masculino GUANQIN Mens Watches Top Brand Luxury Sport Quartz Watch Men Business Stainless Steel Waterproof Wristwatch
http://s.aliexpress.com/EnyIvaM3

>>61725572
>>61725398
I've been rused as well, but anyway would love opinions

Are the ATH MSR7 worth it? Or is there something better in the same price range?

>>61725398
>>61725588
Make a new thread

>>61725572
1. Water can easily get into the watch case back
2. It looks like a fake IWC pilot chrono watch which is a luxury wristwatch and your fake isn't
3. It's not automatic or mechanical so use your phone instead

I have three good reasons
1. Solid bracelet links not folded crap
2. Sapphire crystal
3. Well at that price point its a bargain for a chronograph if it works. Shit if the functions don't work.

>>61725802
For closed back? Nah they're about the best under $200 I'd say

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>>61717475
Aye what's good my African American descendants

>>61722595
I made this amp back in college. I think tubes make a bigger difference for speakers than headphones, but if the tube amp is well designed that difference is minimal but noticeable. The even order distortion is the main reason, it makes things sound warmer, creates a mid-range "bloom" that can make a stereo image sound full. Some tube amps take this to an absolute extreme basically being mid-centric and having distortion over 2-3%, and in my experience is kind of counterproductive because you lose too much accuracy and it gets muddy fast.

The one I made is a classic push/pull circuit design with el84s. It maxes out at 1% thd at full volume and puts out 15 watts. I was trying to make an amp that had a tinge of tube warmth but not become muddy. To be completely honest I still like my pioneer sx-650 for this little setup on occasions which is solid state, but having the ability to switch it up is nice.

>>61725300
An amp will typically matter far more than a dac. Generally, we recommend people start with a dac+amp like the fulla2, so that they're good on both fronts.

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is this ass for $200

>>61726632
>we recommend people start with a dac+amp like the fulla2
lol fuck off schiit shill
nobody wants your product with worst quality control ever and when 50% of the price is paying shills on reddit

>>61726668
Such schiit-hate. My fulla2 is fine, my friends' (2 friends got it too) are fine, most reviews are positive, and so on.
No matter the product and no matter how nice the QC, there's gonna be duds.

My new motherboard has considerable noise coming from the built in jack. I have a receiver I'm using as an amplifier, so I do not need an amp/dac combo. Are there any super cheap but reasonably good external DACs out there (sub-$50)? I just need something to reduce the noise, nothing fancy.

>>61726687
get a normal job

>>61726767
hifimediy 9018
consider the optical version if your motherboard has support

>>61726687
The bigger problem with the fulla 2 is that there are no measurements, and as such you cannot claim it is audibly transparent. A known quantity like the SMSL idea or ODAC which has been measured to be transparent will be a better choice until the fulla 2 is measured.

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I want to buy Koss Porta Pro, but its 60 OHMs and i want to plug it to Samsung ATIV S GT-i8750. Could they play too quiet or it will be allright? which ones if not them?

>>61727933
You'll be fine, these are efficient.
https://www.audiobot9000.com/koss/h/porta-pro

>>61725259
If you want the 770 Pro 80 ohm, get the Beyer Custom Studios as it's the same as the 770 Pro with a detatchable cable.

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>>61728145
>80ohm
i am looking at the 32 ohm version
>Beyer Custom Studio
costs ~40€ more. not worth the money for just the cable.

thanks.

>>61726417

Can we get more like this? instead of endless HD600 discussion

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Just bought an amp while drunk
then I realized my current headphone is using usb and my HD6xx will take 4 more months to arrive
what do I do with it meanwhile lads

Is there any real difference in sound between some chink amp/dac like DAC X6 and "audiophile" gear like NFB-11? Because I think there is not.

>>61728501
That's a lot of stuff for 59 ameriburgers.

i've been thinking about buying the ath ls200's to upgrade from my se215's but i can't find media or reviews for them anywhere. any anon's have them?

>>61728534
They just add tons of related words to make products show up on searches more

Is the HE4XX the cheapest we'll ever find a planar headphone right now?

>>61723716
Buy the HD600 from amazon. if you dont like it return it for a refund.

>>61723716
>DAW playback
Automatic HD600 recommendation.
Closest to harman target, this is the open "monitor" go-to for audio work.

>>61728516
>chink amp/dac like DAC X6
Probably, because that specific chink amp is known to have high Zout, and so it should audibly affect FR with low Z headphones.

>>61728835
Fostex t50rp is good but you need to do some modding to clean up the sound.

>>61727933
I plug them into my phone just fine. They're really efficient.

>>61730082 new thread

>>61729753
The aeons are closer to the harman target.

>>61730101
What model?

>>61721431
your monitor is shit tier

>>61730133
That a TN? Ouch.

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>>61730126

>>61730203
That's not flat. That's niggerbass.
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/MrSpeakersAeonBook.pdf

>>61730236
Harman is a niggerbass curve, the fuck is your point?

>>61730242
Harman is just a little bassy. It's not niggerbass like that.
That headphone is niggerbassy even against rtings's niggerbass target.

>>61730266
You're fucking retarded. That graph is compensated to the harman curve. You clearly have no understanding of what the harman curve actually is.

>>61730293
Oh right. The HD600 measurement confused me into thinking otherwise, then I noticed the channel mismatch.
Bass is poor due to obvious poor seal there, which also explains the channel mismatch.

>>61730334
>poor seal as an excuse for not knowing what the fuck you're talking about

W H A T T H E F U C K

>>61730203
https://www.mrspeakers.com/aeon/on-closed-back-headphone.html
$800
OK, not these.

Schiit Fulla/2

vs

AudioQuest Dragonfly/Red

vs

CEntrance DACPort HD/Slim

which one is best, do you like any of them?

I have the original (first) Fulla and Dragonfly Red, Fulla seems to be worse so far - too much energy, less detail. The most noticeable difference is in soundstage (Dragonfly is amazingly wide). Also, Dragonfly's sound is much more controlled.

//btw, how does Roland Mobile UA (UA-M10) sound? some reviewers seem to love it while others hate it.