/hpg/ - Headphone General

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

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>>61698656
>>61698675
>OP is a dumb HD 600 poster

>>61697194
>>61697246
>>61698173
plz answer, stuff which handles orchestra nicely is preferred

Do extension cords damage the audio quality?

>>61698841
No.

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Fifth for old /g/ memes and vaporwave.

Are you guys buying the hifiman he4xx from massdrop?

>>61698881
Already have my headphones. Don't need to.

>>61698881
I'd rather save up for an LCD-2 or something.

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Quit wastin' your time and go end game.

>>61699302
>treble cannons
HD600 are better.

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Can anyone here help? Looking for a specific pair of earphones to use at work.

Must haves:
>in-line remote (with volume control if possible)
>over-ear hooks
>good build quality

Added bonus:
>Long, braided cable
>Decent enough sound quality

>>61699324
Then grab the 800S, you big baby!

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Currently using MDRv6s, should I pick these up?

>>61699435
>inadequate upper midrange response
HD600 are still better.

>>61699457
>hifiman build quality and customer service
Nah.

>>61699469
Easy, then grab the LCD-1s.

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Anyone got the newer Piston Hybrids? Any decent or should I leave em

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My last earphone purchases were pistons and KZ-ED9s, and ROCK-something (aliX) which have done my very well over the last few years.

Let my dad take a pair, so now I'd like to get another cheap good-tier chink earphone for listening to music on the way to work and back.

>any personal recommendations bros?

>>61699302
they look like shit

>>61699515
I just ordered some, havent arrived yet

>>61699536
KZ ZS5

>>61699594
>three page review you didn't read
>awesome aesthetics
>mindblowing sound

My spinfit tips fit fine but then after like 20 seconds come out a slight bit, not enough to fall out easily but enough to have a noticeable negative impact.

At this point do people typically get a smaller tip to fit further in the ear or something bigger to fit further out but be a bit tighter?

I'd just try the other size tips that came with my iems but can't find them so need to buy new ones.

>>61699302
>go end game
You mean skipping headphones and going straight for monitors and speakers?

>>61699660
bigger, smaller won't fit deeper since the earphone won't be able to go deeper, and even if it had a really long nozzle, it still wouldn't seal at all since it's too small.

>>61699652
awesome aesthetics?
um, no, sweetie

>>61699603
How much did you get them for?

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50$ well spent, they are very comfortable

>>61699652
im going to agree with anon, I wouldn't buy the HD800 because I'd be embarassed that I spent $1000 on a sci-fi looking toy.

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suck my meme

>>61699893
but it is a crime to make permanent earpads that are sweat magnets

why would someone mod their TH-X00 to be detachable with MMCX connectors

>>61699938
Werks on my ears :^)

>>61699938
yeah i noticed i didn't see how to remove them.
is there really no way to remove them ? how did they put them on when they were assembled ?

>>61699457
Enjoy your sub-par quality build chifi headphones

>>61699959
Not anon, but the pads are clipped on, at least on the 9500(non-S)

>>61699987
But the clips are clued onto the pad.

>>61699987
>>61700010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiNIauJJQZ8

this guy didn't seem to have trouble .

i don't want to replace mine , i just like being able to clean my earpads with soap and water once in a while .

If I wanted to increase the volume of my microphone what would I need to use? Do I need an amp or something else?

>>61699959
I looked at some pics online, and it looks like they are glued on. Basically you'll have to DIY molest your pair if you want to replace the earpads

or just buy a new pair. It's a really silly design when they gave it detachable cables, so all I see is blatant planned obsolescence. Dunno why Philipis would do that since people would sooner just upgrade instead of buy a 2nd SHP9500.

>>61700021
No problem here either. Pads are still clean after around a year later. Not sweating probably helped.

>>61700021
The fabric near the inner earpad is glued on; not sure how that'll react to water.

headfi
>Shure SRH1540s with stock cables pair beautifully with Lotoo Paw Gold Diana. My Moon Audio Silver Dragon MMXC Shure cables made things way too bright with this DAP; I am selling the cables. Sometimes this hobby is trail and error.

should I even continue using headfi for headphone reviews/comments? This sounds silly, what kind of cables would be making the music audibly "too bright".

Best Headphone/Amp-Dac combo for less than 1K?

>>61700079
Those fuckers believe in headphone burn-in and shit like that, so you decide.

>>61700079
>>61700103
The headphone market is so insanely oversaturated that you will read positive nonsense comments anywhere online about any pair of headphones.

>>61700098
fulla 2, buy btc with the change

>>61699783
$16AU

Best cheap in-ear earphones?


Is it possible to upgrade from my soundmagic e10's without spending 100 quid?

>>61700221
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Headphones-Earphones/Etymotic-Research-ERMK-5-mk5-Isolator-Isolating-Black/B00OQG7IC2

>>61700189
That's cheap af, I've been looking at double that

>>61700297
Not him but anything a bit below that pricepoint?

>>61700379
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Etymotic-Research-Limiting-Isolating-Headphones/dp/B005TOV0OM

>>61700098
Modi multibit + Jotunheim

>>61700098
NFB-28.38

>>61700397
a..anon plz

>>61700788
It's an honest suggestion, it might look silly because it's volume limiting for kids, but I've heard a lot of good things about it. All they do is just put a resistor in the wire so that it doesn't get very loud.

>>61700838
The reviews aren't the best, supposedly the audio is very limiting. I'd rather not have a gimped product that's advertised for kids 2bh

>>61700379
https://gearbest.app.link/OBpVTykoiF

>>61699611
>KZ ZS5
Bit pricey for me still.

>>61700668
earpads change after 150 hours, yes so of course the sound will change

>>61699457
MDRv6 is a closed monitoring heaphone, he-400 is an open hifi heaphone.

No. The two are not even somewhat similar.

>>61700079
No. It's full of people invested in the "art" of headphone ownership and not actually listening to music with the fucking things.

Take what you read anywhere other than pro music websites with a tiny tiny grain of salt, and try the headphones for yourself before buying. Most reviewers and pundits just spout stream of consciousness bullshit and pat themselves on the back for their overpriced snake oil purchases.

I'm looking for headphones for general use (Games and Music) specifically. I don't want to spend more than 200 USD any ideas?

cheap wireless iems for back to school?

>>61701264
ZS5/ZS3/ZST with KZ Bluetooth cord.

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>>61698656
HD600 here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>>61698797
bump

>>61701240
Save yourself some $$$ and get the Phillips shp9500s

>>61699681
10000000% this.

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Anybody here try the HD 600 for awhile and then use the HD 650? What were your immediate thoughts when using them or A/B testing? I'm not able to try them myself, but I'm getting a little sick of neutral cans but still want that signature. The 650s sound perfect, but I want to know exactly how far off neutral they are. I know they allegedly sound mostly the same, I just want something that's a little more fun but still accurate.

Is the he4xx based on the he400i? That band looks awful, why would they change it

>He400i
>HD600
>DT880
>AKG

Fuck, what do I choose?

>>61701607
He-400i, or if you wanna wait and save $$$ join the he-4xx drop. Second choice would be the dt-880.
>>61701596
Considering you could just do a mild bass bump and get the same sound signature that seems redundant. Id invest in a different can like the dt880, Fidelio x2, or he-400i.

>>61701607
AKG what

>>61701638
The he4xx drop is today isn't it

>>61701607
HD600. It's the less flawed choice among those, and also the one closest to harman target,

>>61701658
Starts August 3rd, but you have to wait a long time to get your headphones most of the time it's a few months. This is the case with all massdrop made stuff. You save a lot of $$$ but it's a long wait.

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ITT: Ety EarDildo and Snapheiser MudCannon shills.

>>61701771
Cute cat

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>>61701638
>Second choice would be the dt-880.

>>61701658
Tomorrow August 3, 6am Pacific.

My HD600s came today! I'm powering them using a Magni/Modi 2 Uber stack. These are truly glorious! Hahaha, I can stab my eyes out now. I'll never need a thing now that I have the blessed HD600s!

>>61701803
put your trip back on

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>>61701791
>Industrial standard quality
>Chink plastic

Even the hifiman headband is made of steel that's padded.

>>61701812
You fool! I've been here since the great migration from SA in the 2000s! You dare accuse me of being a tripfag? I will find where you live, and I will hurt you. You son of bitch! You have no idea what a can of worms you've opened.

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>>61701803
I'm so conflicted. What if this is what really happens if I replace my 990 with a hd600.
Years of hd600 shills has eroded my sanity.

>>61701791
>No bass
>Recessed treble
>Chink shit plastic
Go back to being a faggot, OP.

>>61701845
You'll probably think "wow that's dark and there's no bass." And then feel unimaginable regret that you spent $300 on headphones that sound like a tabletop radio.

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>>61701803
First high is always the best, then you'll cry out for more.

>>61701908
Suddenly I feel so much better?

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>>61701859

>>61701607
avoid AKG and Hifiman if you care about the build of the headphone at all

this isn't just about the cheap construction on the exterior of the headphones (the AKGs are shit btw). There are reports of shitty soldering inside the AKG K7XX for example.

They're all made in china, but that gives them no excuse to skimp on QC. Fiio and Shure for example have consistent quality despite being chink made.

honestly, AKG should be avoided at all costs now. Their HQ isn't even in Austria anymore.

Does ultrasone or grado even make anything worth buying these days

>>61701978
So Beyerdynamic is the only way to roll?

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>>61701922

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>>61701970
>Innerfidelity
Heh

>>61701970
Tyll also said the he-400i sounded better than the meme600s .

>>61701607
HD600 for neutral
DT880 for V-shaped
AKG for bright
HE400i for shit build quality and shittier customer service

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>>61702049
so rtings posting is now accepted on /hpg/?

>>61702077
no

>>61702077

No.

>>61702077
>DT990 over HD 600
Sure, no harm done

>>61702091
>>61702092
fuck off tyll

>>61702002
if you can get past the shitty attached cable. The cables will die first, and it'd be silly to ruin $200+ headphones because a $5 cable unless you're into DIY and soldering shit yourself.

Easily replaceable earpads and cables are an absolute minimum to me on anything more expensive than $200.

This is a reminder that DiPolarDisorder is a shitposting troll who intentionally spreads factually incorrect misinformation such as "hrtf graphs have an inverse relationship with how a headphone should measure" and refuses to back up his claims with credible evidence because he cannot. His HRTF claim has been thoroughly debunked by:
https://rinchoi.blogspot.com/2010/05/headphone-equalization.html
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-frequency-response-part-one
http://hauptmikrofon.de/theile/1986-3_Standardization-of-studio-headphones_JAES-1986.pdf
http://vbn.aau.dk/files/227876689/2008_Hammersh_i_and_M_ller_AAA.pdf
Do not take anything he says seriously, especially headphone recommendations.
>in b4 he falsely claims he has debunked these links while refusing to link to said "debunking"

What is the equivalent of the HD600 but with better build quality?

>>61702115
Beyer are putting detachable cables in their newer products

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>>61702121
>This again
Dude, you're not getting paid for not shilling the HD 600s

>>61702129
>equivalent
HD600 has no full-sized equivalent.

>MOM LOOK IM TOTALLY OWNING THIS TRIPFAG

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>hd6xx is all you need
>hd6xx to the moon
pic related

>>61702147
Forgot your trip.

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>>61702129
Anything with chink shit plastic that doesn't snap should work

>>61702121
I'm sorry but this is just sad at this point.

PSA: HD600 will never snap if you follow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxK-NwSR5U as soon as you get them.

>>61702152
>No bass
>Recessed treble
Anything with either should be fine. I'd recommend LCD-1s to Sennshills if they weren't so poorfag for living off of shill money.

>>61702159
>1 grand just for a bit of coiled wire and some plastic

>>61702129
Sony Z1R

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>>61702181
PSA: Literally putting them on your head has a risk of them snapping

>>61702141
I'm aware but those are in a completely different budget range ($599 for the DT1990). If we're doubling the budget, then yes, it better have detachable cables.

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>>61702244
More like:
>>61698478

>>61702121
Ah, I see you still can't read and misinterpret your own sources? That's cute.

Don't worry, with enough therapy autism is less noticeable to the average person.

>>61701908
Here tripfag finally mistakenly posted his no bass garbage with his trip on.
Now we know who you are, literally no bass troll.

>>61702319
What the fuck, nigga? Are you fucking autistic? The no bass troll is not one anon. You've been screeching that for months before the damn tripfag came onto the scene.

niggabass > nobass

>>61702319
>Starts attacking random anons thinking they're me because I agree that the hd600s have no bass and no highs

Wow good detective work there.

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>>61702380
Don't worry, anon. You'll eventually convince then with your Asian cartoons eventually!

>>61702380
>If I keep posting these anime girls holding signs up that express my personal, subjective opinion on a set of chink plastic, veiled $300 headphones somehow it will convince random anons to buy them.

>>61702121
>MOM. MOOOMMMM THE TRIPFAG IS POSTING AGAIN, LOOK! HE'S EVIL AND HE DOESN'T AGREE WITH MY SUBJECTIVE OPINION ON AUDIO QUALITY!

>"son get a job or I'm evicting you in a month."

Rock Zircon's or Xiaomi Hybrids

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https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ShureSRH1840.pdf
Am I reading the measurements right? How the fuck is that distortion even possible? The no-frills but high quality build of the 1840 looks so nice, it's a pity the sound itself is apparently dogshit off measurements.

what the hell does that even sound like?

>>61702512
They've been known to destroy easily for quite awhile now. What I want to know is how comfy those earpads are.

>>61702539
Distort. Sorry, phoneposting.

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>>61702512
Even the 3 big meme phones have massive harmonic distortion in the bass region. This is a result of having a very small driver attempt to make large excursions for bass.

Another reason why most loudspeakers perform and sound much better than headphones. Thd is higher for the mids and highs, but most well designed speakers never go past 2%, most hover around 1% for the entire frequency band.

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Anybody here swear by the 650s over the 600s? Why?

My left and right ears are very imba between 5 and 10kHz.

Why and wat do?

>>61699324
>no sub bass
>veiled compared to HD800 sound
>dat impulse responce
Kek.
>>61701570
Reminder that speakers don't offer the same amount of detail retrieval, the higher frequency is the more it will loose energy traveling through air, and you will have to deal speakers interacting your room, and no DSP and even bass traps won't completely solve it if you have anything but large space.
>>61701607
>AKG
Muh soundstage and airy treble with a decent bass (K712). Cheap feeling.
>DT880
Cleanest bass of all 3 dynamic headphones, middle finger of treble. Non detachable wire, not as horrid if you can visit someone to sort that shit out for you but quite disappointing anyway.
>HD600
MUH MIDS, sexselent female vocals, no soundstage and weak sub bass, also least rapey treble, really good for prolonged listening sessions. SNAPPETY SNAP :D, but in reality unless you purposely try bending the headband backwards it won't snap. Real issue is that pads are not as roomy as HD5xx offerings.
>He400i
Listened them the least. Really good bass and subbass, both in quality and quantity. Clean mids but biggest dip in lower treble/upper midrange of all mentioned headphones, female vocals are a bit kill. Also due to the mentioned drop spike in treble stands out, nowhere as bad as DT880 tho. Pads are ok but were the least comfortable out of all for me, not as bad as He400 tho, can be replaced but will influence the sound.

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>>61702641
>sexselent female vocals
:^)

i live far in the suburbs and there is no such thing as a high-end headphone shop (at most it's just the ATH headphones in a music store).

what's the big deal about planar headphones? I feel like it's 90% audiophile bullshit again and I won't actually hear a difference. I'm asking because I think I will make be making a mistake if I join the drop for the HE4XX tomorrow. That $169 price tag is more worrying than enticing.

>>61702711
A lot of the time they have very linear bass extension like LCD2 or M1060.

>>61702711
Nice c l e a n bass

>>61702711
Much more linear bass extension. It's the one type of headphone that overall avoids the distortion problems dynamic driver headphones have with bass and mid-bass.

What full size are closest to Etymotic HF5?

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>Budget
£300
>Location
UK
>Source
Desktop
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
don't mind
>Comfort level
don't mind
>Sound signature
don't mind
>Past headphones
Had some shure 940's but they broke, were a bit too 'clinical' sounding

Is there a current king of heaphones?

>>61702771
>>61702779
>>61702802
that certainly tempts me towards the HE4XX.

All I'm wondering now is what the catch is with the $169 price tag.

>>61702900
>what the catch is with the $169 price tag.
The catch is Hifiman build quality and customer service.

I'm in the market for some headphones /g/, here's my template:

>Budget: Around £250 but could possibly stretch to £300

>Location: UK

>Source: To be plugged into desktop

>Type of headphone: Full

>Open or closed: Closed

>Comfort level: Preferably something comfortable enough for 7-8 hour sessions.

Been reading a lot about the HD600s lately but not sure, I'm open to more suggestions.

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>>61702870
>Is there a current king of heaphones?
HD600, obviously.

>>61702900
The catch is the wait. Every massdrop made item (the akg and Sennheiser xx models) take months to get after ordering them. So you're basically paying upfront, and the reward is saving $80-100 on the equivalent headphone.

>>61702900
Quality control can be a bit iffy with HiFiMan, but they're pretty comfy headphones once you find a decent pair.

>>61702932
Aren't HD600's like 50 years old?

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>>61702932
*Cough*

>>61702927
Hifiman he-400i
Ad-ath1000x
Dt880
Audio Technica msr7 (these are god tier closed back)

Just mentioning too the hd600s are hard as fuck to drive and open back.

>>61702870
>Is there a current king of heaphones?
hd600
>>61702927
hd600 are not closed

>>61702932
That graph has been debunked.

>>61702870
Audio Technica msr7.

>>61702870
>>61702932
>>61702955
>>61702968
>Too 'clinical' sounding
Kek. If he didn't like the Shures, then why would he like the HD 600s?

>>61702919
>>61702938
>quality issues
is it too much to hope that maybe a limited run of 2500 units would actually have QC? Am I gambling too much to hope that maybe a limited run might be loss leaders to turn around the growing stigma with their brand?

fuck I think I'll bite anyways then I'll just have to baby the damn things.

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>>61702955
There is a well established pattern with properly-sealed measurements of the HD600: 30 Hz response even with 1 kHz, 20 Hz response -2.5 dB relative to 1 kHz. Any measurements showing less bass than this, as yours does, were not properly sealed and are thus invalid measurements. You will now, as always, come up with a rhetorically ineffective reply such as "this excuse again?"

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>>61702990
Pic related

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>>61702990
SRH-990 measure significantly brighter than HD600, hence significantly more "clinical" sounding.
>>61702977
>>61702955 has been debunked. >>61702932 has not.

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>>61702997
>Well sealed again
Nigga, I sure hope you aren't the anon who were shilling the HD 600s with this >>61701970
>>61702049

>>61702956
Just had a butchers at the recommendations, the Dt880's seem really nice, but you've sold me on the Audio Technica's I think. Thank you.

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>>61703013
>Inb4 debunking spam

>>61702990
Because shillheiser faggots just recommend the hd600s regardless of application

>I'm looking for a portable set of closed hea-
>HD600s!
>I'm looking for decent quality wireless earbu-
>HD600s!
>Trying to find a pair of v-shaped hea-
>Hd600s!!!
>My budget is $150 max for someth-
>HD600S!!!?!?!!?!

>>61703004
Yes, as you can see, the HD600 has a couple more dB of bass response and 2.5 to 5 dB less treble response, hence they are considerably less "clinical" sounding. The SRH-940 are bright headphones whereas the HD600 are balanced sounding.

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>>61703025

>>61703020
No problem, hope you enjoy them!

>>61703029
Kek. Some poor anon asked for portable headphones a couple months ago. All he got were HD 600s as a recommendation.

What's the best reasonably priced DAC? (sub 300 dollah)

Also can you use a DAC for speakers or only headphones

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>>61703046

>>61702870

>Is there a current king of heaphones?

Sennheiser HD600.

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>>61703095

>Inb4 debunked and not sealed well

>>61702870
Try the AD1000X

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>>61703182
>£700

>>61703195
Oops. Europoor. Forgot.

>>61703216
What difference does that make

>>61703233
$300 here in America. How fucked is your country there? How much does the SHP9500S or HD 600 cost there?

>>61703258
HD600 are £300

>>61703293
Nice. Bass is pretty light, the treble is sort of recessed, and the soundstage is pretty narrow, but they are n shaped headphones afterall. Hope you like 'em.

>>61703314
>>61703293
Mids are its main focus.

I was thinking of the HD 600 but holy shit they are just so ugly looking. Should I just get the 650? I like bass anyway.

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What's your portable setup like, anons?

>>61703339
Go ahead. The 600s are pretty light on bass. The 650s are the darker of the two headphones.

>>61703314
>Bass is pretty light
Incorrect. Midbass is slightly boosted and 30 Hz response, which is lower than the fundamentals of most music, is neutral. This means that the bass, overall, is slightly louder than the midrange. This is objectively the truth as demonstrated by >>61702932
>the treble is sort of recessed
Technically, in relation to the bright-sounding diffuse field curve, yes, but the treble will be perceived as neutral. Etymotic's ER-4B, the most accurate diffuse field earphones available, were met with large-scale criticism for being too bright. The ER-4S was the response to this criticism and most users felt its treble sounded perfect. The HD600's treble response is similar to that of the ER-4S.
>>61703328
Incorrect, as verified through objective measurement. Its bass and midbass will be perceived as very slightly louder than its midrange or treble.

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Fell for the ortho meme with the HE400i and they are 100% nobass.

>>61703339
Do you want a balanced sound signature or do you want a slightly dark sound signature? If the former, HD600, if the latter, HD650.

>>61703410
Its bass is pretty light dude... Have you compared it to other headphones inside your home? It's pretty light...

>>61702605
I do, they sound better.

If you want to test your bass, listen to the track: "What Is Fight Club?" by the Dust Brothers.

>>61703461
Personal preference regarding bass response varies widely and you have a right to your own opinion. However, HD600 bass is objectively slightly boosted in relation to the diffuse field curve. I have heard but do not own HD600. If I did own it I would actually EQ the majority of its bass response down a tad. My subjective preference is for ruler-flat bass response.

>>61701607
Tested all but the HD400i, can confirm >>61702641 impressions.
Imho you will be getting a headphone regardless, it's more a matter of picking your poison.

>>61703503
You don't actually own HD 600s? Ahh, good to know.

>>61703511
*getting a good heapdhone regardless

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>>61703503
>Shillheisers confirmed for not actually owning their precious memephone
>People who can't afford the hd600s unironically shill this particular model and brand overall.

>>61703503
Daily remind that some Sennheiser shills do NOT actually own Sennheiser HD 600s.

>>61703579
An endorsement from someone who has experience with it but does not own it is more valuable than an endorsement from someone who owns it because said endorsement is not subject to post-purchase rationalization.

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>>61703604
A-are you at least getting paid?

>>61703604
>"Hi welcome to my Porsche dealer, how can I help you?"
>"I'm looking at the 911, how does it handle? What's your favorite Porsche to drive?"
>"Well to be completely honest sir I have never owned a Porsche or driven one for that matter!"
>...
>:^)

How do you connect a DAC to speakers that use an optical connection?

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I miss the old times.

>>61703701
The speakers use an optical connection or the dac does?

>>61703701
If your powered speakers accept a digital signal there there is not need for a digital to analog converter

>>61703718
speakers are plugged into my PC using an optical cable Logitech z906

>>61703722
Wait so the speakers/console already has a DAC?

Would it be pointless buying an external one?

>>61703734
Yeah most powered speakers have their own DAC

>>61703734
Those speakers already have a dac built in. The optical cable is feeding them a digital signal.

>>61703440
>Shillheiser shitposters this desperate.

>>61703772
>>61703440
>Planars
>No bass
>ThinkingManEmoji.gif

>>61703714
>high end headphones
>dac with dc power supply
>tube amp
>cardas clear cables
>power conditioner
That pic has it all.

>>61703339
Can't go wrong with either one. Sounds to me that you'd likely prefer the 650.

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>>61703816
I thought they would have better bass reproduction than my HD600s but it's the opposite. I actually wonder if they're defective. Also the pads have unequal thickness in some areas.

>>61703914
We keep telling you HD600 is never upgrade status. You didn't listen.

>>61703914
Put some pleather brainwavz and see the difference.

>>61703914
Told ya HiFiMan's quality control was iffy, but I still wouldn't listen to Sennheiser shill such as >>61703951 especially after >>61703579

>>61703914
I'm going to take a wild guess that they aren't fitting properly, either because of the uneven pads or head shape.

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>>61703951
>Never upgrade status
Try being more subtle next time, Rajeesh

>>61703754
>>61703759
oh

alri then

Probably a really shitty DAC though right

>>61704020
>Shitty dac

The only shitty dacs are broken dacs. Unless you're experiencing EMI or static it's a non issue.

>>61704037
Why are there fucking $10,000 dacs then

>>61704048
Why are there $1,000 cables then?

>>61704069
Retards?

>>61704048
Because some people will pay 10000 for a DAC.

>>61704073
There ya go

>>61704048
Because incredibly stupid but rich audiophools enjoy spending $$$$ on esoteric circuit designs that measure in almost every parameter identically to their $50-100 counterpart.

The devices your listening to and even the amplification for those devices matter a lot more.

>>61704101
>your

>>61704218
>your'rer'

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https://track3.mixtape.moe/tjjsvu.webm

So I just bought a pair of HE560's, however I do not have any amplification. I come to you today looking for advice for a DAC and amp for desktop use, and then a separate DAC/amp combo for portable use. I am currently on vacation, and won't be at my desktop for a few weeks... I can't wait that long to try these out ;)
Budget: $250 max for the desktop pair (I was thinking a Schiit stack, unless you guys have any recommendations), and $150 max (preferably something closer to $100) for the portable one.
Source: iPhone for the portable, MacBook and PC for the desktop.
The guys at the shop said they would recommend not going with FiiO for portable amplification... any idea why?

>>61701978
>honestly, AKG should be avoided at all costs now
Even the K712?

>>61704425
Their headphones are now made in China, which is a shame; I quite like my Austrian made Q701s. They still hold up after 4 years.

K7xx > hd6xx
Fact

>>61704462
that sucks. Guess I'll roll with 600, 650, AD1000x, or X2s. I know the headband can snap on Senns, but I'd rather not have something go wrong internally

>>61704597
>HD600
Neutral.
>HD650
Dark.
>AD1000x
Nobass.
>X2
Melanin-enhanced bass.

>>61704597
The wires connecting the cables to the drivers are pretty thin, and they have been know to break when dropped, but as long as you're not that clumsy, then you should be fine.

Hi /g/!

>Budget
100$
>Location
Poland
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
does not matter
>Comfort level
very important, i use headphones 8h a day in job and play a lot games
>Past headphones
Siberia V2

>>61704597
>>61704693
Talking about Sennheiser. Not sure about the Audio-Technicas. The AD's headband may not work well with smaller heads, and the Fidelios are built like tanks. They're pretty heavy, but that headband distributing the weight is a charm. Seriously the comfiest headphone i've if you don't mind its bass focused sound sig.

>>61704705
SHP9500S

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>>61704372
That's awesome @ HD600.

>>61704619
Memes aside, the HD 600's bass are already pretty weak to some, but the AD1000X takes the cake of no bass headphones.

>>61704619
>>61704693
>>61704748
Guess I'll save up for the 600s and X2s to complement each other. Already have 558s, so no need for dark HD650s, and I don't want to have to do the retarded rubber band mod on the ADs. thanks

>>61704811
Not available in Europe, not even shipping from ebay, amazon, etc.

>>61704838
>ad1000x
literally no bass!!

>>61704854
HD558 (not 559)

>>61704865
Yup. The 600s are pretty no bass too if you want to compare them side-by-side.

>>61704705
HD558

>>61704705
>>61704882
>>61704929
These. The 559s are downgrade. Don't buy

>>61704918
>The 600s are pretty no bass
This has been objectively debunked by >>61702997

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>>61704882
>>61704929
>>61704949
These are nearly 200$ in my country

>>61704952
>Debunk
Why can I not trust Sennheiser shills anymore after calling 650s nigger bass and now recently >>61703503

>>61704952
Do you know how I know you only own HD 600s?

>>61704975
You're a silly goose if you don't evaluate posts and images on their own individual merit.

>>61704990
Such as
>>61701970
>>61702049
? Or are you going to call them "poorly sealed"? Silly goose :^)

>>61704975
you could never trust Sennheiser shills, sennheiser was founded by nazi war criminals

>>61705014
>using Nazi as an insult
>on 4chan

>>61704965
wtf?
https://cenowarka.pl/sennheiser-hd-558-504631-a566856.html
Then maybe look at the HD579:
https://cenowarka.pl/sennheiser-hd-579-506830-a1515524.html

>>61705095
I guess I will have to wait for another salary to buy them.

>>61705125
Yeah... but considering the price difference, just go for the HD579, which are absurdly high value. The HD558 are a rip-off at those prices.

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>akg wires are small
Why would people gomon the internet and just lie?

>>61705148
Akg k7xx vs a hd6xx on the left if anyone was wondering

>>61705135
Okay, I will take this in mind. Thanks

>>61705034
>Implying it's an insult
>Not the truth

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The smallest wires I've seen personally are in the atx-ad series

>>61705095
+1 to that, every review I've seen considers HD579 better than HD599.
At that price, it's a steal.

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Hmmm bottom trim off or on?

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Good as new

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Pretty solid. All solder connections are well done and secure

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Honestly all connections are serviceable just by taking off the slide locking cap.

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And all good as new

HD600s BTFO and forever REKT

>I gushed in my HE400S review, in some ways I preferred it over the HD 600. Comparing the HE4XX to the HD 600 again today I've got to say I still think it's better in some ways. The HD 600 is smoother and more liquid sounding, but it's got that veil, and the long hump in the bass/lower-mids response does give it a thick coloration compared to the HE4XX. Treble is a bit more strident in the HE4XX, and the presence area is a little more withdrawn, but bass extension and midrange neutrality are better than the HD 600. Bottom line: both are very good cans. But that price difference! People should be yelling, "Take my money!"

https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/massdrop-x-hifiman-he4xx-planar-magnetic-headphones#64FStg3iyg2mvOiv.99

>>61705807
Looks like InnerFidelity is out of the list with rting. I wonder which site is next.
>>61701970

I love my MDR V6 but the cable is way too long and the telephone style makes it stupid. Has anybody had success modifying the cable to make it shorter and straight?

Do I need an AMP/DAC whatever to go with HD6xx or would it sound the same if I just chuck it in my motherboard audio jack?

redpill me on aftermarket ear tips, what are the best types?

>>61705931
JVC Spiraldots, Spinfits and Comply tips are pretty popular for aftermarket shit. For shit like Monks, Yurbud tips look pretty neat and Comply's earbud cover seems interesting.

>>61699302

This thing has a confirmed resonance around 6khz in the cup.

With the 800s' they increased harmonic distortion in the low frequencies in order to create at least some bass presence. Moreover they generated a 6khz resonance coming from the driver to destructively interfere with the cup resonance, rather than tackling the real problem.

If sennheiser is meme'ing with the 800s', what must we think of the 800's which it is supposed to improve on?

>>61700584

How do you like the amp section on this one?

What's the benefit of having two amps for a pair of speakers? Why do audiophile speaker setups have two boxes that look like amps?

>>61706247
>Why do audiophile speaker setups have two boxes that look like amps?
Amp and preamp I believe. Might also be monoblocks, one entire amp for each speaker

>>61705807
>The HD 600 is smoother and more liquid sounding, but it's got that veil
>veil
No it doesn't. Tyll adjusted the headphones to his ears wrong. You have to align it to your ears properly and no more veil. In my experience is if the drivers are adjusted too high on your ears it sounds kinda muddy.

>>61698656
What are the best 100~ euro poorfag headphones? Still ATH-M40x?

>>61706378
>Needing to exactly adjust your headphones to not sound veiled or muddy
Why even bother?

>>61702641
Caring about autistic details instead of it just sounding good. Sounds like someone has only used shitty speakers.

>>61706389
theyre not a bad bet. also look at status audio CB-1s

>>61706716
CB-1 looks interesting, what's the /hpg/ consensus on it?

Looking for an okay-ish amp with 3.5mm output

Recommendations?

>>61706831
good value for the money

What should my budget for an external DAC (as a user that wants good sound but isn't an audio editor) be?

>>61707269
$0

>>61707390
let's say your on-board audio is made of a literal potato, then $50

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>autistic question

is there any difference between the dt880's different ohm versions besides being harder to drive?

>>61705807
Till's getting old.
A shame, his ears used to be good.

>>61704419
The guys at the shop said not to go with FiiO because it's probably the cheapest solution on the market and they hope you will buy some >$200 audiophool amp instead. It's also a chink company so some people are skeptical of the build quality, though I've never had any problems.
You could probably buy only the E10K and use it at home and as a portable amp for your iPhone if you can figure it out. I'm not sure how hard it is to drive the HE560 and I can't be arsed to check, but I'm fairly sure something like the Fulla 2 is more than enough for your volume needs. And that's the only thing that matters.

>>61708123
Higher impedance = more refined treble

>>61704419
>The guys at the shop said they would recommend not going with FiiO for portable amplification... any idea why?
I know it's not portable amplifcation, but have an E10K and it's pretty damn solid. I might even get an X3 soon after taking a look at a friend's X1 and X3. Specs aside of whatever you're looking into, it's going to solid quality from FiiO in my experience. Completely different from experiences of people who never learn and buy multiple products from Hifiman and get burned each time.

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>>61701455
I went with these (Parasom A1). THe Bluetooth cord + ZS3 was gonan cost me 40-60 $

>>61700033
I was tempted at one point to buy a pair, went fuck it and bought fidelio X2 instead.
Ear cups were still glued in to the pinholes, ended up slightly ripping the inner lining on one of the velour earpads while gently trying to remove them.

Frustrating as hell, I didn't like the feel of velour anyways a bit irritating on the skin and absolute lint magnets a pain to maintain, so I ended up using a pair of HM5 sheepskin pads I had lying around and stretched the ever loving fuck out of them to fit around the rim without even bothering to snap the pins, they are thick enough don't really feel them.

Sound signature still sounds the same to my ears, couldn't pickup an obvious difference in sound quality.

>>61708527
The old X3 serves me well, it probably won't be enough for demanding headphones but I'm still comfortable even after EQ. I'm not so sure about the newer ones because I have an aversion to those clicky wheels, but aside from that it's basically the same thing.

>>61704372
That effect made me uncomfortable. I really feel it's outside the headphones.

my meme50x finally died

what do i do now

Same budget range, basically

>>61709087
M40X
Status Audio CB-1

Are those 50k seinheiser headphones, like, the best of the best?

>>61709393
no. if you spend any more than 3k total you're just an audiofool gear collector

is the FiiO A1 amp any good? I'm looking for portability over anything else. Traveling by airplane I can't ever hear my devices. I plan to use it with my phone and N3DS.

>>61709496
>FiiO A1
Only a little. Gain setting is low, less than 4dB. E6 would be a bit more useful (6-7 dB).
What seems more appropriate is getting something with superior isolation and a half decent sensitivity. What are you using now?

What are the best cheap shitty earbuds? I'm talking something I can go and buy in a store right now; no time to order VE Monks.

>>61709692
HJE120 / HJE125

>>61709785
Thanks bud, gonna check them out. I'm going to a music festival tommorow, and dont wanna take my HD25s

>>61709630
It would be my first amp. The primary cans I use on plans are DT 770 80ohm. I really just need to be able to hear my 3DS with decent quality and maximum portability since I'm using it on a portable.

>>61699652
They look like a washing machine flipped inside out.

I wouldn't wear them in my own home.

whats the best around the ear fitting iem for 100-200 USD?

>>61701791
Neutral and balanced are different things. I know it's a troll chart, but damn, put effort in.

>>61709393
HD600 are the best they make, sound-wise, without EQ.

>>61710193
Isn't that why the chart says "neutral with a balanced sound" and not "balanced or neutral sound".
It acknowledges them as separate things.

New thread:
>>61710272
>>61710272
>>61710272
>>61710272
>>61710272

headphone cable wont stay straight and keeps getting tangled. how do i fix this? 3m cable was a mistake

>>61709785
>>61709857
I'd assume the HJE125 is just the TCM125 without a mic, which would mean the HJE120 sounds better.

>Budget
around $200
>Location
USA
>Source
PC with dedicated soundcard (600w headphone amp)
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Definitely closed, these will also be used to play games with so I can't have sound bleeding into the open mic
>Comfort level
Give me the sound quality
>Sound signature
Probably neutral though it's because I don't really care as long as it sounds good
>Past headphones
JVC Harx900s