/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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Kaby Lake has been released! Skylake is depreciated if corresponding chips are similarly priced (e.g., i5 7600K vs i5 6600K)!
>Some motherboards will have a one-click, 5GHz on air OC button that works for 80% of i5 7600Ks
>100 series chipsets (Z170, B150, ect) don't work out of the box with Kaby Lake
>Z series chipsets have an "Enhanced Turbo", which allows all cores to run at the highest single core boost clockspeed (works for Skylake CPUs as well)
>Pentiums now have hyperthreading, and are thus the new default budget / entry level gaming CPUs
>Pentium G4560 is the best price / perf four thread CPU on a modern platform
>All Kaby Lake CPUs work natively with 2400MHz DDR4 memory
>Do not underestimate the impact of fast (>2400, e.g, 3000MHz) RAM in conjunction with a Z series chipset, which often provides as much of a performance boost as a CPU overclock

>To install Win7 on a Kaby Lake system, use a board with a 100 series chipset that has been flashed with the Kaby Lake update. All the normal caveats for 100 series / Skylake Win7 installation apply.

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>have 7.5 year old monitor and 3.5 year old monitor
>7.5 year old monitor croaks 2 days after 3.5 year old monitor starts acting up for the 4th time

Thankfully the 3.5 one always manages to fix itself after a few days, but damn I was starting to think the old Gateway 1680x1050 was gonna last forever. Poor thing.

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Good build for 120hz gayming in cs ?
AMD Athlon X4 860K
XFX Radeon R7 360
Gigabyte A68H
Rosewill R363
8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport
120GB ADATA SP550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj2o5xaJJoI

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How do I improve my computer if I have no desire to play games?

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>>58729763
Should have got a 480 anon!
Should have waited for vega anon!
Should have _______ anon!

>>58729925
Zen, look at all those threads/cores

>>58729834
Fortunately for you 1080p 60Hz monitors are $50 used.

>>58729904
I would say no.
Find a comparable G4560 build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=Jhyf7P

>>58729925
Don't you mean why instead of how?

>>58729972
people say that duel core is dog shit for vidya

>>58729801
>5GHz on air button
LITERALLY ANY COOLER

Con't from last thread
Anon thinks i3's will hold worth. So they are worth using for a new build instead of anything with more cores. As you'd be able to reclaim some cash from the secondhand market.
>>58724182
i3's are around $30 used(if they're selling at all). Fast forward a year do you really think you're going to be able to get anywhere near that?

>>58729925
to watch animu better

>>58729935
I don't think anyone is waiting for Vega except people who just really want a Team Red gfx card.

New i3-6100 owners got BTFO'd though.

At this point I'd wait for Ryzen if I were buying a new platform. Having said that, buying the G4560 and expecting a decently priced LGA1151 upgrade path is reasonable.

>>58729985
It's a 2c / 4t CPU, which is fine. The only ones you don't want are 2c / 2t, but even that would be fine for CSGO.

>>58730001
It's a fairly low wattage chip, retard. A cheap 212 EVO or Cryorg h7 will be fine

>>58730019
>$30
I don't know what the fuck you're smoking. A Haswell i3 4330 sells for $75 shipped, which makes fucking sense because the the $75 Pentium G4560 will currently beat it.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_ItemCondition=4&_nkw=i3%204330&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

So yes, any Kaby Lake i3 will hold 2/3s of its value. But if you buy the i3 7100 the used market may laugh at you and ask why you didn't get a G4560, which will hold most of its value.

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>>58729985
not for light games like csgo, here's a more modern build,

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>>58729972
I like working and tinkering with things.
>>58730020
It's already loli-sized with good storage potential and I'm thinking about throwing some Nocutas in there for absurdly silent animu watching conditions.

>>58730019
>$30
Here are the i3 6100s, going for an average of $95
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=i3+4330&LH_Complete=1&LH_ItemCondition=4&LH_Sold=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR8.TRC2.A0.H0.Xi3+6100.TRS0&_nkw=i3+6100&_sacat=0

>>58730230
The fuck. But there's brand new ones going for $100
Seems to be a mini stock market. Hope it crashes hard.

>>58729763
Eyo, need a cheap gpu. I don't do any intense gaming. ~$180. Canada.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487114 was looking at this.

Odd question but I need velcro for desk cable management, anyone got a brand\link to one you reccommend

>>58730290
For 25CAD more you can get a GTX1050, which is far superior

>>58730279
>mini stock market
Something's clouding your judgement.

>>58730357
danke

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>>58730310
I like the Monoprice "Hook & Loop Fastening Cable Ties". Don't be afraid to chop them up into shorter lengths if you need to. I got the 9-inch length.

>>58730290
gtx 1050, check it out.

>>58730202
720p? you must hate yourself

>>58730357
Happens often on ebay. People see a product they can snap up cheaply then jack the price.
Get a load of this guy. He thought there was profit in these until he figures that the figurine is worthless (time it'll take to flog off). Now he's pulling a lambo in my library tactic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYPrqbJAb8M

>>58730400
>blah blah blah downloading upscaled rips is meaningless

>>58730418
That's definitely not what's happen to the CPU market. Anyone smart is trying to offload what they have.

>>58730310
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001E1Y5O6/
These are pretty good

>>58729763
This is a very inefficient space heater

>>58730569
it doubles as a bitcoin miner

why the FUCK isn't there a mini-itx case with 2 low profile pci slots

>>58730773
Because low profile is dead. Just go for standard PCIe sized cards like everyone else, anon.

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>>58730808
but muh tiny pc

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>>58730825
These days you can get neat tiny cases with full PCIe support. Nobody needs low profile anymore.

>>58730870
where the fuck do you even buy that

>>58730892
Their site says they'll start selling it in "early 2017" and even then only through two european stores.

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>>58730921
so it's vaporware
nice meme

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>>58730941
There's also tiny ITX cases with the same general design idea that aren't a complete meme like dancases

Any cheaper alternative to Samsung SSD 850
that's not significantly slower?

Best card for a system with 8gb ddr3 and a I5 4690?

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>>58731091
And there's also more slim cases with a 90° PCIe bracket for your gay men

>>58731113

If the A4-SFX or Sentry was available to general consumers, I would abandon everything and start an ITX build.
Why are the "limited run" meme cases always the sexiest ones?

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Rate my budget 1080p meme machine (prices in CAD)

>>58731107
quick, think of the best card you could ever ask for, there, chances are that's it.

>>58731104
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IAGSD68/?tag=thewire06-20&linkCode=xm2&ascsubtag=WC24023

>>58731137
Slim ITX cases with GPU support have been around a long time, look harder
As for something similar to the dancase, I'd just say look for the smallest black box and what reviewers say it's competition is, the Ncase M1 I posted is a good place to start

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>>58731137
General consumers don't really spend much over $70 to $150 on a case nowadays. As much I would like an ultra-premium aluminum case, I don't really see the point in spending that much on a case that doesn't have easy-access dust filters or easy expandability.

>>58731151
>buying a gpu with only one fan
>Deepcool GAMMAXX 400
>cooler not having an all copper covered base

you have shit tier taste in coolers anon, and you stop.

>>58731151
Budget builds generally don't use K-series processors and Z-series chipsets. Unless you plan to overclock, go with a B-series chipset and a non-K processor.

Your SSD isn't available, and isn't added to the final price. You should avoid 120GB drives anyway, as 240GB are cheap enough to compete with them.
WD drives have some pretty appalling failure rates after three years of use. And you can get a 2TB drive for like $5-$10 more.

Stop paying for Windows. Instructions on pirating Windows 10 are literally on the installgentoo wiki.

If you're going with Z270, get 3000MHz RAM. The small to non-existent price difference is worth it.

>>58731107
Depends on your resolution / refresh rate. If 1080p 60Hz then 470/480/1060. CPU is still good.

>>58731151
Get a 240GB SSD

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>>58731227
>not OC'ing my GPU
>it will get the job done for a while
>???

>>58731232
>Budget builds generally don't use K-series processors and Z-series chipsets. Unless you plan to overclock, go with a B-series chipset and a non-K processor.

It's a budget build in the sense that I want to future proof the CPU. Overclocking can overcome bottlenecks, hopefully lasting me for the next 5-7 years. Do you think I might be better served by an 7500? I play CPU intensive games rather than GPU intensive games. I wouldn't go for a huge overclock since I need this to last (probably aim for under 75c under load) so maybe I should save some money and go locked?

>Your SSD isn't available, and isn't added to the final price. You should avoid 120GB drives anyway, as 240GB are cheap enough to compete with them.
WD drives have some pretty appalling failure rates after three years of use. And you can get a 2TB drive for like $5-$10 more.

As for the SSD, yes it's available. Check newegg. The difference between a 120gb and 250gb is about 50CAD. That's a lot for me, but I am considering stepping it up. What alternative to WD do you recommend? My current rig has run a 500gb WD for 7 years, no issues so they're alright in my books.

>Stop paying for Windows. Instructions on pirating Windows 10 are literally on the installgentoo wiki.

I live in a police state and if I pirate Windows the gubmint might come get me. Maybe not. I'm mulling it over.

>If you're going with Z270, get 3000MHz RAM. The small to non-existent price difference is worth it.

CAS timings on 3000 RAM are usually 16, I can get 2400 dirty cheap with 14 CAS. I don't know if I want to fuss with RAM overclocking, it seems like a pain in the ass. I'll look into it though.

>>58731317
3000 is way better, and it's as easy as ticking one setting in BIOS

>>58731317
If you're actually intending to overclock, go with the K. There's just a lot of builds where people assume that the unlocked processors are the starting point and end up spending much more than they have to.

The best alternative to WD would be Hitachi. Ironically, Seagate is also pretty good as long as you stay below 3TB.
If you're trying to save money, go with either WD or Seagate, but know that you may have to replace it in a few years.

CAS timings don't mean as much as they used to with such high frequencies. You're going to see a much bigger performance increase with the frequency than the hit with two ticks in CAS.
With the Z270 boards, there's almost no overclocking to deal with. Just pop in a processor that supports XMP (the 7500k does this), and enable it in the BIOS.

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>>58731405
>>58731408

Ten-four, i'll start looking for some cheap 3000. The only reason i'm going K is because this CPU needs to be top boss for the next 5 years at least. I can replace the GPU later but the CPU needs to last. Hitachi is way outside my price range, i'll have to take a chance on WD or Seagate, although I was under the impression that Seagate is worse than WD?

>>58731493
Seagate used to be worse than WD, but they really stepped up their game. I still wouldn't trust either brand with anything over 2TB though, the potential for failure is too high for me.

>>58730020
Kek

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>>58729763

This is my first real build and i could really use some constructive criticism. please point out anything you see that is not compatible or will be a problem in the future. thank you so much.

PS: I already own the ram, power supply and graphics card from my original computer and i'm using them to make this new build

>>58731516
I only need 1TB. I have an external for extra storage if needed (doubt it). Assuming the Barracuda is fine, i'll just pick up one of them.

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Is there any good z170/z270 motherboards under 150 usd? I want a simple and reliable board without all that flashy and glittery gaming bullshit.

>>58731593
Yeah, anything 2TB or below should be just fine for standard use.

>>58731602
Of course. You just need to look for them.

Anybody got experience OCing a 6600K on air to 4.5 on a Z170X UD3? How easy is it? Can it be done on stock voltage?

>>58731602
Check the pcbg partpicker in OP

>>58731577
It's fine, but I would sell the old RAM and get LGA1151 (Skylake or Kaby Lake)

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>>58731604
Thanks friendo.

>>58731633
That's exactly what I have experience with.
It's easy.
1.32 volts.
It could run 4.3 at stock voltage though.

>>58731656
212 evo?

Also 1.320 I assume?

>>58731656
Whats even the performance difference between 4.3 and 4.5? IS the performance difference even worth it?

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>>58731672
yes yes

>>58731645
why the ram is still perfectly good. is there something about ram i don't know about or are you just saying get faster ram?

>>58731680
It's significant. Not incredibly, but still significant.

>>58731680
It not breaking so I'm gonna say it's worth it, I don't know how big the difference is but at 4.5GHz I get a score of 748 on cinebench, which is awesome for a quad core with no hyperthreading (at stock clocks I think I got high 600's, maybe 680 or something).
It definitely feels a lot better than stock, and in some CPU-heavy games like BeamNG I got a 10-20fps increase

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>still shilling Kelvin Lake
Intel must be paying good for your shitposts OP. Maybe i stop going to college and start shilling for them, too.

>>58731686
I'm saying get a modern platform. Don't limit yourself because you have $50 worth of RAM. You'll be able to use the DDR4 for a long time. May as well sell the DDR3 while you can

>Buy RX470
>Pleasantly surprised with performance for price
>Go watch some Youtube
>Think something went horribly wrong
>GPU totally silent
TIL that MSI RX470s can stream 4K on YouTube in a 0R-PM silent mode

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Budget is $1500. My build is gaming at 1440p, I plan on overclocking. Still iffy on the motherboard. Any swaps suggested to lower the price while maintaining similar power or capacity?

>>58732181
if you can afford to, waaaaait.

After march and intel cuts prices, go ahead and do as you please.

>>58732189
This. Wait till the prices come down.

>>58730656
>>>/biz/

>>58729763
that pic >>>/biz/

Alright, this is my first build.

I mostly play 4x game, like CIV VI and Stellaris. Might look into the next Mass Effect if it's any good. I'm planning on doing some OC somewhere down the line, so I'll probably buy a I5 7600k or the AMD equivalent at the end of march depending on stock availability and prices.
Planning on finding a 1080p 144hz monitor.
Should I buy a R9 Fury tri-x for 400$ cad or stick with a RX 480 for 300$.

>>58732181
>1440p gaming
>1080p monitor

>>58732293
480

>>58732354

Why the 480 over the R9?

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Already ordered these parts quite a while back before kaby lake but no dosh to complete my build hopefully find a 1080 for around $500

>>58732375
So you where using integrated graphics or an old gpu?
>1000w
What where you planing with all that juice, SLI?

I've done a lot of fiddling with my parts list recently. Was wondering if I should go for a better motherboard?

May seem familiar:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mmyvNN

>>58732293
>fury tri-x
God they actually sell those things?
Avoid the fury at all costs. $400 isn't so bad though, you could take the $400 and use it to buy liquor so you can drown away the reality of now having a fury tri-x.
Oh wait, you actually have to PAY to get a fury? kek

Get the 480

>>58732367
The Fury is a 4K card. At 1080p the bus width etc is wasted. It's also an old gen and too hot
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Quick_Silver_OC/29.html
The 480 is plenty for 1080p

>>58732403
850w psu should do fine for sli?

>>58732403
>>58732437
Yeah I've had issues with SLI but I'm going to probably purchase another 1080 down the line anyway. Yeah 850 is more than enough but for this PSU I got it for a good price so why not get the extra wattage.

>>58732429

So if I managed to find a good priced used 1440p monitor, would it be worthwhile?

Do you have any sources talking about it running too hot? All the review I read only talked about how much it's eat up energy and is a bit on the noisy side depending on the luck of the draw.

>>58732493
"Hot" means that it eats 300W. But no, still not a good deal. Too little VRAM for 1440p. The only good 1440p card is the GTX1070

>>58732534

Alright, thank you.

>>58732544
Also there was a deal for a 480 for around $137 albeit with a rebate too so if you can find snag one for around that $150-160 that'll save you quite a bit but I wouldn't pay more than that.

I'm saving up to build a new computer since my current one is ~5 years old and has had multiple hardware failures. I know everything that I plan on getting except for the case. I was hoping /g/ would give me some recommendations.

Here's what I'm looking for.
-As dust/cat hair free as possible.
-As quiet as possible using multiple additional air fans.
-Mid to full tower.
-No doors/panels to move on the front to turn it on or to access the optical drive/front IO
-Has no tempered glass panel, those are a meme and just a gimmick to increase the price.
-Cable management is a plus but not required, I'll be getting a modular PSU.

I give zero shits about how it looks. I want a functional, quiet, cool machine. Thanks for any input.

Should I get two or three GTX 1080s for playing League of Legends on my 1440×900 TN monitor?

>>58732622
Neither. Get 4.

>>58732622
Three 1080s obviously so you can get that nice smooth 60 fps.

>>58732622
Wait for the gtx 1080 ti and get 3 of thoses

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should i kill myself

>>58732605
He is from Canada, retard. The aftermarket 480 4GB isn't going to be that cheap, even considering exchange rates

"Also" don't pretend to be me

>>58732675
Yep

Hello /pcbg/
Please, help me choose a decent budget motherboard for moderate overclocking.
Which one should I buy?
Asus Z170-P
Asrcok Z170 Pro4
Asrcok Z270 Pro4
MSI Z170A TOMAHAWK
MSI Z170A-G43 PLUS

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Did I do gud?

I'd like to build a pc, got a budget of around 600, where I start?

>>58731317
>CAS timings on 3000 RAM are usually 16, I can get 2400 dirty cheap with 14 CAS.
16/3000MHz =5.3ns 14/2400MHz=5.8ns
3000MHz RAM with 16 CAS actually has lower latency than 2400MHz RAM with 14 CAS.

>>58733201
Depends what you need.
Gaming: Spend majority on good GPU, mediocre other stuff
General: I'd recommend putting money into good CPU

Evaluate what you'll be using it for then you can start asking what kind of parts you'll need.

>>58733165
>Corsair CX500
Enjoy your housefire.

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what 480 brand should I get?
I want a 4gigs version but it seems those are heavily gimped compared to 8 gig ones

Brand I can choose from are XFX, Saphire, MSI and Asus
but it seems every brand has a lot of problems (shit pcb, jet engine noise, overheating, toothpaste tier of thermal paste) and army of negative comments on shop sites

>>58733201
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=ZhnQ7P

Hey people, I'm bit off the loop on the latest news on CPUs/GPUs. I'm thinking of throwing a build together to run some virtual machines(nothing existing, 2 or 3 KVM guest OSes for school purposes) and I'd think I'd be willing to spend roughly 500 - 700 euros(ballpark estimate) to it. Only another requirement is that I'd like to be able to run two monitors(nothing major, just 1920x1050). Could I get away with latest-gen i5, or should I spring for i7? Can I get away with using Intel Integrated graphics, or should I just get cheap GPU for that?

Suck my dick

>>58733068
>Asrcok
You either really have cock on the mind, or you are shit at spelling.

>>58733347
All four brands make good RX480s and all have their pros and cons, prioritize on your most important aspects or simply get the cheapest. Also get the 8GB version.

>>58733324
why
whats wrong with it

>>58733424
im not sure I will use that 4 more gigs of vram
I play on 1080p on Fx6300 cpu

>>58733438
Cheap chink shit, don't buy Corsair unless it's their higher-end like the RMx.

>>58733458
Lel no, FX6300 is shit, but if you'll upgrade you'll use it.

https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/647986/Yeh

Opinions, asking for a friend. I'm thinking he should get cheaper cpu and mobo.

>>58733478
and what would be best option to that cpu? I only need new gpu

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/tBj33F

Is this too many case fans?

>>58733503
Depends on usage and budget. Personally i'd say RX470 4G.

>>58732675

you literally just buildt a ps3

>>58733526
well I want to play games on 1080p/60fps/High
I found Asus 470 Strix for 212€, my budget is for around 250€, prices here are crazy -bottom barrel of EU countries

>>58733562
Yeah EU prices suck ass, RX480 or GTX1060, take what's cheaper.

>>58733516

It's not, but I'd change the fans I'm guessing you're planning to put up top.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/FcHkzM

>>58733619

why do you have two fans up top bring in air? they should be outputting

>>58733589
im tight on money so those few saved euros would be nice and it seems 470 lags only 6 frames or so behind 480
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNNRGH3gMvg
btw is factory OC worth it or not?

>>58733553
gonna get an i5 6500 soon if that makes any difference

>>58733438
The CX and VS series of Corsair PSUs are the worst you could buy. Cheap shit. Anything from half a dozen other brands is better.

>>58733724
Difference between 470 and 480 in fact isnt that huge, but EU prices suck, if you can get a RX470 for say 200 bucks and a RX480 for 210, which is the case where i live, then always chose the later.
Factory OC is worth it, but don't overpay for it. 200MHz aren't worth 20 bucks imho.

>>58733786
>The CX and VS series of Corsair PSUs are the worst you could buy
why?
is this just another meme like fermi housefire?

>>58733516

Yes, that's too many. Just stick to the stock case fans for a case that small. It should be fine.

>>58733791
they sell factoryOC with +43Mhz for 10€ more, that seems like a scam

>>58733877
Lol yes that's scam..

how safe is it to buy a factory oc gpu?
the only one I bought that was oc was faulty (the oc was too high so i had to underclock it), so now I am worried about it.
>in before "y u buy oc then" just because it is surprisingly cheaper than the non oc one

>>58733915
>buy a strix 750 TI OC EPICCC EDITION
>not because GAYMER branding but literally because it had the best core clock per dollar in my price range
>apart from some amd gpu but i've swallowed the greenpill
working pretty gud so far

>>58733915
First time I've heard of someone having that problem. So I'm going to take a wild guess and say that it's quite safe as long as you're buying from a reputable manufacturer.

>>58733915
You had bad luck m8.

>>58733946
yea, same for me. even google doesn't return anything when I search for that faulty gpu + brand name.
still, is PNY a reputable brand?

g4560 + 1060 or i5 and 1050 ti?

With all those faster DDR speeds is a cpu bottleneck as painfully noticeable as it used to be with old i5s like 2500 and 3570 and slower ram speeds?

>>58731137
https://www.dan-cases.com

>>58733970
It isn't that noticeable anymore, only in CPU limited games. Why not i5 + RX480?

>>58734065
Cuz I'm poor and with UK prices in mind i5 + 480 RX would consume 80% of my budget.

>>58734087
So you want a gaymen machine for ca 600 GBP in UK? I'd go for G4560 + some RX470 or 480 or GTX 1060, ijvest the rest in non shit parts and be done with it.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xxbFHN

just wanna play games at 1080 / 60fps - is this good enough?

>>58733978
i5 + 1050Ti is nonsensical
Either G4560 + 1060 or i5 + 1060
If you want to reinforce the Pentium and have a nice upgrade path, get a Z270 + 3000MHz RAM

>>58733724
>>58733791
>>58733877
>factory OC
You're getting a binned chip and a better cooler

>>58733516
Crappy monitor. Get 144Hz at least, if not Gsync

>>58733407
Integrated graphics
i5 is fine if you're not running the VMs at the same time or running intensive processes

>>58733458
You will definitely be able to get away with 4GB of VRAM at 1080p for a long time, but for instance Resident Evil 7 has a shadow cache (which allows a slight performance boost) that needs more than 4GB.

>>58733478
Nothing wrong with the FX6300. Most of the time it's great

>>58734156
Yes, but note that you need DDRfour. If you're reusing RAM you have DDR3

>>58734157

>144hz monitor

No thanks, don't feel like paying over $800.

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>>58734180

I don't understand. The ram I've got is DDR4.

>>58734204
Oh, well maybe it is.

>>58734134
Let me elaborate. I already have a good rig with i5 and 1070. This one is for my younger brother for his birthday. I ain't shitting money and he is too young to have his own cash so I wanted to buy him a gift since all he has right now is some ancient i3 and 760 gtx.

It was supposed to be a mini itx rig (that's why I opt for mini EVGA or Zotac Pascal cards, as far as I know AMD has nothing like that). 470 RX cost literally as much as 480RX and 1060 4gb/3gb versions in here so buying them just feels wrong. Good 480 rx non ref cards are more expensive so if I had to choose between 480 rx and 1060 mini I will go for mini simply because of the specific build. I sure as heck won't buy a reference 480 in such confined space. As for DDR4 - z270 are twice as expensive as most expensive b150/h110 mobo. I've heard you can also oc ddram with b150 although I need to read more about it.

Would It be better to go rx 470 8gb than 480 4gb in the long run?
I play 1080/60ghz

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>>58734228
>I've heard you can also oc ddram with b150 although I need to read more about it.
Nope. I did extensive research

>>58734231
Probably nothing major, but there will be some benefits to the 8GB model

>>58734244
http://www.eteknix.com/asrock-introduces-memory-overclocking-for-non-z-skylake-motherboards/

?

>Assrock

I know.

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>>58734275
I personally contacted Asrock support. It's fucking nothing, because you're playing the lottery. Even DRAM modules with the same P/N cannot be guaranteed by Asrock to be overclockable. Basically, if it so happens that the board can overclock the RAM, it will tell you so. To quote support, it's an "Easter Egg feature"

The follow up email read:

Hi Matt,

I got replied form HQ as below.

 

This feature is belonging to “Easter egg feature”, and it’s not guaranteed on all Samsung and Kingston.

It depends on the chip inside the DRAM.

If our BIOS detect the chip is able to support, it would automatically show the option up.

 

Because the DRAM vendor may not use the same chip on all same P/N DRAM, we may not provide the detailed P/N for reference.

Thanks for your understanding.

>>58734311
Haha okay then. Thanks. How about z170 instead of z270? they seem to be cheaper. Only problem is finding a mobo with already updated BIOS - otherwise I might not be even able to boot it with a Kaby Lake CPU like g4560.

do G4560s still perform decently without an OC?
i would like to save money and not buy an expensive motherboard if i dont have to

>>58734322
You can get a Gigabyte board and use Q Flash to update the BIOS without a Skylake CPU

Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3
One the cheapest highly user rated boards

>>58734344
Yes. The G4560 isn't officially overclockable.

IIRC the Haswell Pentiums are

>>58734228
G4560 + 1060 EVGA or Zotac mini it is, maybe even 1050Ti, depends on your budget and afterall it's for a kid, he won't need much.

>>58734344
You can't OC Kaby Pntiums, only Skylake. Intel finally perfected their jewery.

>>58734344
It's pretty much cheaper i3 6100 in terms of games. Also supports faster 2400 Mhz memory when compared to 2133 of Skylake.

>>58734352
Can't really find that board in UK. Also don't you need Q-flash Plus if you want to update your bios without actually having a cpu? I have a Kaby Lake myself so it might be annoying to find a skylake one.

>>58734384
>>58734352
Forget about it I will just opt for z270.

>>58734266
I thinking this baby
http://sapphirenitro.sapphiretech.com/en/470-8.html
its the cheapest 470 8gb in my cunt 240 euro bucks

>bought cpu
>watching it on post tracking
>gets sent to some postage warehouse 5km from my address
>later it gets scanned 50k down the coast in a different warehouse
any other ausfags experience this postie shit?

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Okay, so I know that Zen is coming out in less than 2 months and all, but would I really eb a moron for building a new computer around the 8350, then in a year or more building the next computer around zen after it has had time on the market?

>>58734157
>You're getting a binned chip and a better cooler
that cooler looks really same and like its only 40Mhz more.

>>58734526
Just wait for Zen, AM3+ is dead.

Looking to buy Whether a 470 or 480 (prices are almost similar). But when to buy?
Will prices drop til End of the month? If so, will 470s be like 460s?

>>58734536

Goddamn it. My current system desperately needs to be retired and I was all set to build a new one in feb, I don;t want to wait one more month for something that could potentially be a let down and also have a bunch of out of the gate driver issues.

>>58734726
if you dont plan to run W10 go with 8350, zen will be from the ground up only for w10 while it may run older os it will with problems

>>58734726
Then buy it, it's your money. But if you're skipping Zen you should've built that computer months ago.

Is there any point in upgrading a 6-year-old i5 2500K at this point? Heavier use of the computer is mostly for gaymang.

>>58734750
Thats what I was thinking. Hate Win10

>>58734763
life stuff, but you're not wrong.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3TnYbj

>almost there

A friend of mine needs a completly new Pc he wants to use it to play video games.

http://www.mindfactory.de/ he wants to order from there and has told me he is willing to spend about 800-900 euros. Can anybody help?

>>58734526
>would I be a moron?
Yes.

>>58734726
You can get a G4560 that will perform as well as an FX8350 in most games. You'll have a nice upgrade path on LGA1151. If you need more threads for rendering or something, you should wait for Ryzen because it's already known that the CPU will be monstrous in tasks like Blender.

>>58734806
Not right now

>>58734885
Ew

>>58734976
G4560
Z270
3000MHz RAM
240GB SSD

Pick a form factor. I'd recommend microATX

>>58729763
Where do I get windows license keys from? For free. I saw a site posted here a week or so ago but didn't save it like a retard

I bought mobo but the crate wasnt wrapped in plastic, is this how its supposed to be?

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Help.

My Asus M7 has a secondary 8 pin ATX power connection (top left under peripheral connections).

My Corsair RM650x has a few 8 pin 6+2 PCI-E connections but none of them fit the socket shape.

6 of the pins fit but 2 don't

>>58735703
Top right*

>>58729925

Get into AI and neural networks.

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https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-benchmark-stats-2016/

HDD reliability statistics out for 2016.

>>58736206
poor seagate

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>>58736206
Remarkable trend is, higher the HDD space, the less likely it will die soon.

>>58734244
You have the same incorrect pic you made as 4 months ago you didn't look into shit

>>58735431
the crate itself doesnt have to be wrapped but the mobo has to. If it wasnt it was most likely already opened by someone else

>>58736332
mobo si in anti static bag

>>58736353
yeah that's what i meant

>>58736253
>>58736206
That's kind of fucked. The information doesn't at all indicate a direct correlation between capacity and reliability. Seagate and Hitachi HDDs larger than 6TB use SMR, which is probably the worst possible kind of drive for data center operations due to its nature. With proper use (as a write-once/read-many drive), they can last quite a while but they still have worse endurance than regular PMR drives. I'm guessing the reason why the 8TB drives' unreliability plummeted was because BB realized this and stopped using them for write-heavy applications. Same goes with the 5TB Seagates which are also SMR drives (6TB are still PMR, as far as I can tell).
There is also no differentiation between 5900rpm drives and 7200rpm drives. 5900rpm drives are inherently longer lasting due to less wear on the platter bearings and heat up far less than 7200rpm drives.

What's the point in getting a really good PC these days, all the games are console ports and/or shit

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Hey, planning on upgrading my cpu and gpu. Will I need to do anything else or buy anything else (like is my current mobo gonna be okay with these?)

>>58737174
ps2 emulation and future WiiU one

>>58735384
bumperino

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Building a new gaming PC, the one I am running now has got to be around 7 years old or so, but she has served me so well.

$1400 is about as high as I can go, I don't think I can give my wife enough sex to justify $1500.

What do you guys think?

>>58737287
Build is fine, personally I would swap the 1tb ssd into a 250/500gb 850 and get a 2tb hdd but it depends on whether you need the storage or not.
> I don't think I can give my wife enough sex to justify $1500
nobody gives a fuck faggot

>>58737237
Might as well get a WiiU it'll be cheaper

>>58737232
Why do you need to upgrade them

>>58737400

My i5 causes micro stutter in one certain game. I also have the cash to throw around.

>>58735384
Just google key reseller

>>58735703
CPU power? Should be 4+4. Consult mobo manual

>>58736206
Seagate getting rekt / anally ravaging its customers again. My Seagates have all fucking died. The 1.5TB was the worst; went through four (4) replacements

>>58736261
It's MSI's website, retard. You're quite the fucking moron if you think anything besides a Z series can use fast RAM at its top speed.

Why do you think Asrock would make such a big deal out of a non-Z OC if any old B150 could OC RAM? If you're too stupid to figure it out I can answer for you

>>58737174
PC gaming has options. You aren't stuck with PSVR or the DS4 for instance.

>>58737232
No need to upgrade. Next step is GTX1070 + 1440p monitor

>>58737287
If you don't have a 1440p monitor the 1070 is a waste

>>58737514
>CPU causes microstutter
No

>>58737362
you cant scale resolution and other fancy stuff on it

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My motherboard has a back-mounted M.2 SSD slot. Would it be a good idea to utilize that slot or will the SSD cook?

>>58737875
Why is that even a thing, what if you need access to it? You'll need to take everything apart.

>>58737967
Not really. Every decent case provides access to it through the CPU cooler backplate cutout.

I really have a hard time deciding if I want to upgrade my laptop with
>small SSD and large external drive
>large SSD
>very large HDD
External drives are cheaper than internal, any recommendations which are easy to crack open to get to the drive? I wish the 4TB Samsung 850evo wasn't this FUCKING expensive.

>>58737967
>Why is that even a thing
I don't know if you're just tech illiterate unable to recognize a mITX board if you see one, or simply a retard being unable to read file names and associate them with the picture. There is no fucking place left for it at the front.

What's a great little mini itx case that has room enough for a 1050 and at least 2 3.5" HDDs?

Looking at the Fractal Design Core 500 currently but is there anything smaller?

>>58738320
A 2U case

I'm in a market for squirrel cage blower for my mini itx build. I want it to be 120mm by 20mm or slimmer. I can't seem to find one pls help?

>>58738320
Cooler master 110.

But the 500 is an exceptionally well reviewed case.

>>58738340
https://www.digikey.com/products/en/fans-thermal-management/dc-fans/217

anyone know's what the deal with the underperforming msi gaymen x?

i just got a 480 and after benchmarking it's giving me some real low fps

i remember other guy posting here about the same problem and for what i've searched it's happened to a few more people with the same edition wethee it's amd or nvidia

i've found a fix now but i'd like to know what causes the problem

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hTxDhq

what do you guys think of this? would this be able to play anything at ultra?

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I give up, I bought this PC but I read somewhere that the pump is supposed to be plugged into the cha fan and that the pump will break otherwise. As pic related shows, nothing is plugged into it. It works but it makes a weird roaring noise even at idle, and it gets slightly louder when I do shit. This is my first watercooling thing (I think it's a h75).

Please someone help me, where are you supposed to plug in the pump?

>>58738441
highest cfm is 8.2
REEEEEEEEEEEEE wtf is this pitiful shit!

but thanks for the link man, I guess I have to buy 2 of shitty fans

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>>58738473
>Phenom

Wait...
hold up...
here's my reaction image I was looking for.


Dude, that processor is going to bottleneck the GPU so fucking hard man.

Just wait dude, wait for AMD to release Ryzen, I promise you it'll be a better deal than what you're trying to get.

Jeeesus.

I'm considering buying a i5-7600k or the Ryzen equivalent depending on prices and etc.
But I'm wondering if I souldn't also consider a Xeon since I'd be getting the performance of of an i7 for cheaper while only sacrificing support for OC.

>>58738473
The phenom is ancient.

Just get a i3 6100 if you don't want to pay much for a CPU.

>>58738561

but dude i can't afford ryzen

>>58738584
>>58738561

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mVQ8zM

jk, this is the build i'm working towards

>>58738585
Even though the Phenom is a lot stronger these first world richfags give it credit for, forget "everything at ultra".

I want to replace my GPU.
is PNY a good brand or is it chinese-knockoff tier?

>>58738579

A little precision, I plan on playing mostly 4X (Civ VI, Stellaris, etc.) and doing some music related stuff once I buy a good enough graphic card in a couple of months.

>>58738652
not getting gainward

>>58738559
Blowers always have lower CFM compared to similiarly-sized axial fans - it's just an inherent attribute of the design. They partly make up for it by having much higher static pressure ratings, which makes them ideal for pushing air through long/dense fin stacks, where axial fans would choke.

Should I get the standard RX480 8gb or Nitro+ RX480 4gb? They're going for about the same price now but I've heard a few negative things about the standard RX480.

>>58738552
bump, PLEASE where am I supposed to plug the fans/pump. What goes where?

>>58738066
>4TB
Dummy. It's a laptop, get cheap small storage. I got a $40 SSD for my laptop and with my desktop being used for games and production files and stuff, I don't expect to fill up the 128GB SSD anytime soon

>>58738454
Whatever you fixed is what caused the problem.

Are there any resources for building a PC with Linux support? I'd like to try installing gentoo on a powerful machine as opposed to a laptop

>>58739168
A lot of high power hardware goes unutilized on Linux
Power isn't what drives your choices, system support is

>>58739181
Hence the end of my first sentence. Just powerful compared to an old laptop

>>58734526
Don't do it anon. The 8350 is taking up a lot of energy and takes 8 useless cores.
When Ryzen drops, it will have atleast 60 percent higher performance.

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>building my pc
>want msi gtx 1070 as gpu
>red color will clash with my stylish black/white combo
>have to shill out extra 10 dollarinos for quicksilver edition
First time I'm paying extra for aesthetics, am I gay?

>>58739571
nah, red shit is horrible color

/v/ sent me, told me you guys are smart when it comes to computer building.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D6d4JV

I've got this list here, looking to get a new computer since the one I've had for 6 years is utter shit at running most newer games, and the water cooler is dying.

Looking to spend $700 or less if possible, it's going to be for gaming, mostly newer titles.

>>58739634
/g/ will tear you a new one for this list, fair warning

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>>58739571
>>58739581
>pay extra to have gaming red paint
>pay extra to not have gaming red paint

>>58739653
He needs a new motherboard, a better GPU and maybe a cheapo SSD, but it's not horrible

>>58739690
Oh and a case that correctly fits the motherboard size would be nice

>>58730656
Maybe in 2012

So my girlfriend is moving in with me, and I'm begrudgingly going to have to deal with 2 cats shedding fur fucking everywhere.

I'm upgrading soon and I need THE ABSOLUTE MOST DUST PROOF CASE EVER

Is an i5-K and a gtx1080 the best combo for gaming @ 1440p?

>>58739738

You can run filters over the fans with positive case pressure to give you what you're looking for.

>>58739784
No 1070

>>58739809
I would prefer it be built into the case as a removable filter so I can just clean it once a month without breaking out a screwdriver

>>58739844
People just set HEPA filters in front of their cases too

So I've never overclocked/underclocked anything and I was thinking of getting a 7700K and underclocking to a max of 45/50W TDP
Is this possible and what should I do? Do I need a Z270 motherboard for that or will my H270 do?

I got an extra 970 from a local sale. My setup is already a 970, but my motherboard is an h170 and not compatible for SLI.

What kind of motherboard do I need? I know the ram I have now is ddr4 and my case can fit a full atx form case.

Already have the sli bridge and my PSU can handle the extra pull.

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Just built a rig and my cat keeps chewing on the wires, scratching the tower, and I'm really worried she could damage something and/or hurt herself. Any people with curious cats here that have any tips? It's driving me insane having to shoo her away every 5 minutes while I'm working.

>>58739168
>Choose hardware like normal
>Install necessary firmware from repos

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>>58739738
Define C or any other modern case. Read reviews.

Apparently I don't need to pay to use the vast majority of the features of Win10, is this true?

>>58731602
Asus B250M-C

>>58739690
So I need a different case, different motherboard, and another SSD? Rest is fine though?

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Thoughts on?

>>58740429
You've posted it the last thread, we answered and it's still mediocore, at best.

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looking to upgrade, this seems alright, anything i could change for the better?

>>58740476
I didn't see later comments, what would you change personally? I don't really give a fuck about gimmicky features on motherboards etc. As long as it is stable and consistent in performance then that's my priority. I was going to go with something 2011-3 based but with the virtualisation and storage being offloaded elsewhere, I don't see where there's (significant) room for performance improvements for what I'm using it for.

>>58740429
You may as well just spring the extra 30 bucks and get the i7 7700k

>>58740527
First of all, why no 7700K or Xeon? Even if you don't plan on insane OC, use auto OC.
Mobo and RAM are standard, nothing special to see there, you could go for 2400 RAM.
GPU.. personally i'd get the 8GB version. Your coolers/fans are good, but absolutely overkill since you won't OC.
M.2 is good but expensive, which is why i don't understand why you don't go with a better build in general since you can afford that 500GB M.2.
Now, i think this has been said a million times before and you should take this advice or don't but stop spamming this.

>>58740486
H100i is overkill, no SSD is masochrism and RX480 8G > 1060 6G, should also be cheaper, also switch the Seagate for a Toshiba P300, costs like 61 bucks on amazon.uk.
Rest looks solid, imo the case is an overpriced meme, but that's subjective.

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Got a 1060 atm but I'm going to upgrade it to a 1080 once I get the rest of the parts. Any advice would be welcome

>>58737287
get a decent air cooler instead, 512gb SSD and a 1TB HDD, and 8GB of RAM (you can always buy more later) to bring down the price

>>58739996
If you're not using integrated graphics it probably already is 50-60w

>>58740324
Yeah just download Windows 10 from Microsoft website and don't activate it, the only thing you lose is the ability to change your taskbar color

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nZ298K

Will I regret it?

>>58740354
And gpu, a regular 1050 won't cut it in new games

>>58740672
3TB drives have a higher failure rate. Spend it on a 2TB or 4TB WD Red/Black drive instead

>>58740672
Case looks like stupid meme shit and your choice of storage is horrible.

>>58740745
This build is absolutely retarded and you're a retard for buying a WD blue SSD in the first place.

How good is this $1000 gaymen PC build for my first one? Any improvements I could put on it?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bTnkzM

>>58740617
The storage is there because I'll actually benefit a hell of a lot from the stupendously high input/output performance. As for the RAM, what benefit would I see in programs like Photoshop and Lightroom? Am I right in thinking that with higher rated memory comes increased latency?

>no 7700k
I'm not really bothered about overclocking and I don't see the benefit for £45. I had a 4600k way back when and that overclocked to 4.5GHz (didn't seem all too significant, from what I remember)
>no xeon
No new rendition, more expensive than the 7700, and no support for ECC on non-2011 as far as I am aware - what's the purpose of xeon on non-2011?

>8Gb RX 480
I can see why you'd say that... as far as gaming is concerned I doubt I will go over 4Gb of VRAM, by the time I do, I will have a new card. Although... I should question how much I can make use of VRAM in Lightroom, I'd not thought of that up until now.

>>58740784
I agree with you on the HDD I wanted a Hitachi, but that's besides the point.

>>58740763
Thank you, I'll keep that in mind.

>>58740767
I decided to cut corners with the case, but what did you mean by my "choice of storage"? Were you referring to my HHD or the m.2?

What am I going to need to power the performance to get the most out of a 1440p/144Hz monitor not only now, but 5 years from now?

Would I be okay with a 1080 +i7?

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>>58740862
Perfect

>>58740876
(I can't tell by your choice of image if you are mocking me for being a silly goyim or if you are giving me the okay that my instincts are correct).

>>58740648
nice one, thank you very much, changes saved me quite a bit of money, i'm really greatful

>>58740892
The former

>>58740797
>what benefit would I see in programs like Photoshop and Lightroom?
No idea, i don't use those programms, but in general if the task is CPU intensive you profit overproportionally from faster RAM and the price difference between 2133 and 2400 is virtually non existent.
>Am I right in thinking that with higher rated memory comes increased latency?
Yes but speed > latency, nowadays it's more or less irrelevant.

>>58740808
M.2 is very likely to be ridiculously overpriced. 5400 RPM HDDs are.. slow? I hope you don't plan on putting programms or any relevant data on it.

>>58740852
Both. M.2 is shit and the 5400RPM (5 4 0 0) 3TB is bad as well.

>>58740904
Can you please educate me on why I am both wrong and stupid?

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>>58740862
Graphics cards don't age well. A Kabylake i7 should last at least that long though, unless we manage to overcome the silicon limits.

Unrelated, there's no /guts/ up at the moment. How'd I do?

>>58740923
>Both. M.2 is shit and the 5400RPM (5 4 0 0) 3TB is bad as well
I've established that I should get a faster HDD but are M.2s shit in general or just my choice?

My dad said he would spend as much as I wanted on my computer, so I put this together and tried to save him some money on a couple things, do you guys think it will work, I have a couple other things already, like Beats and the Magic Mouse and a keyboard. Here it is.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27w9yf

>>58740993
>beats
your father likes overpaying doesn't he?

>>58740993
He got them for me for christmas, and they seem pretty good, I like the bass, will they not work with this computer? Should I get another pair that will work?

>>58741063
woops, this was meant for
>>58741037

>>58740973
Just your choice, imho the only worthwile M.2s are Samsung, the rest is either too expensive or shit.

>>58740993
>Beats
>giving away the shitpost this easily
Fucking pleb, you're embarrassing.

I bought the most basic motherboard (h110m-a)
Did I fucked up?

>>58741073
Thanks.

>>58741073
any future recommendations for another shitposter?

>>58740862
No. Your best bet would be a 1080Ti/2080Ti + i5 7600K. Or a 1070 and upgrade later

>>58740796
Need B250 mobo
2400MHz RAM
23-24" monitor

>>58740745
What's your use case?

>>58740672
Make sure your mobo is Z270 or can be flashed without a Skylake CPU
256GB SSD
GTX1070 only if you have a1440p monitor

>>58740429
Need 2400MHz RAM
Can drop to i5 7500

>>58740287
Put her in the closet or better yet intentionally electrocute that little shit

>>58740137
H170 IS for SLI. Could also use Z170

>>58739996
>H270
No

>>58739634
Drop cooler
Make sure you can flash the H110 with the Kaby Lake update

i5 + 1050 is a bad combo. CPU is wasted on the gfx card. A better combo would be G4560 + 1050 or G4560 + 1050Ti or G4560 + RX470. If you keep the i5 you need a 1060/470/480

The best advice is to save up for an RX470 and 240GB SSD

>>58739087
Aftermarket

>>58738652
It's fine

>>58738579
Xeon is unnecessary. Also there's no iGP

>>58738552
Sorry, don't know

>>58738066
480GB SSD

>>58741063
nah, there fine, just overpriced

>>58740761
What type would you suggest? I'm not looking for top of the line, my friends are all casuals, they just play shit like Overwatch.

>>58739829
Why?

What is the point of the 1080?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/TCgYbj

how well will this run GTA V @ 1080p

>>58741365

to waste people's money

>>58741151
H170 is Crossfire only from every source I've seen, and obviously I tried it myself with the 970's.
I'll look into a z170 maybe

what games are even good ?

I've been out of the pc gaming thing for so long, I come back and it just seems like nothing happened

ppl talking about upgrading, but what games currently don't run on mid range hardware?

the industry seems frozen, especially the games... AAA games have been dogshit for too long

>>58741390
Maybe get a cheaper SSD, other than that it's decent.

>>58741483

oh okay cool - will look into that

>>58739571
>am I gay

you are now

next you'll be going nuts about RGB ram

>>58741419
Replying to myself but, would this motherboard be good? https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Solution-Z170A-Motherboard-SLI/dp/B019EYYNP0/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485906414

I'll have the 2 970's, an SSD and HDD. Psu is like 900w so I should be good on power.

>>58741515
PNY CS1311, ADATA SU800 and SanDisk Ultra II are good budget SSDs and usually reasonably priced.

>>58741419
Huh, works for CF but not SLI. News to me.

>>58741480
I liked For Honor (played in the closed beta) but I'm not sure that it's worth $60 for basically a few maps in a multiplayer only game. (Basically only two modes as well.) Pretty easy to run. A RX480/GTX1060 can max it

>>58741390
What's up with all the people posting lists with "purchased" parts? If your build is half done, I'm not going to bother trying to work around the parts you already bought, at least not without some explanation like, "I was gifted them"

>>58741390
good, pirate windows

>>58741403

O rly

>>58741603

it's not like they are important parts anyway you autist

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/49BQhq

my autistm can't into cases

don't really want to spend a lot, and don't want a flimsy case

are the msi rx 480s extra faulty or is it in reasonable numbers?

>>58741682

>buying a 1070 for 600 dollars when vega is right around the corner

son... do you hate money or something?

>>58741700

msi is a shit

avoid

>>58741682
Fractal Design Define, Be Quiet Silent or Nanoxia Deep Silence, Thermaltake Supressor, everything else isn't worth it.

>>58741718
that sucks, only other option for me is wind turbine saphire

>>58741705
>vega

That will cost well over $600 when it hits Australia, and I don't care for AMD. Have had bad experiences with their products several times in the past.

>>58741772

>Australia

oh well that explains alot. sorry

>>58741725

okay thanks

>>58741776

maybe try opening your fucking eyes next time cunt

>>58741782

you alright buddy? I apologized, no need to act like a total dick

>>58741347
At LEAST a 1050ti, but the RX470 is a better price/performance, the 470 can also play most anything at 1080p/60hz and be found at $200 flat if I remember right
>>58741365
1070 does 1440p 60-144fps, 1080 does 1440p 80-144fps
Basically just exists to waste people's money

>>58741789
Cunt is a term of endearment

>>58741812

damn you're right again

im gonna stop posting now

have a good day people

>>58741799
>1070 does 1440p 60-144fps

uh no

try 60-80 max

>>58741849
Works on my machine
Only 2 games I own have troubles getting to 120hz, the rest hit 144 or 120 easily with a setting or two turned down

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>>>/b/720929412

32" 4K ULTRASHARP 144HZ OLED WHEN?

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>>58741903
Probably not before they fix the burn in of your favourite 32" chinese adult cartoon animated pictures.

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>>58741899
>Gay porn at top and bottom of thread
Seems suitable

>>58741951
Please don't tell me you actually wasted money on this retarded build.

>>58741979

it's from /b/

>>58741226

So I'm pretty much stuck waiting for Ryzen to see if someone puts out a high end CPU w/o integrated graphic cards.
I mean if you're already gonna spend a third to half of your money on a graphic cards, why do you also have to spend money on "hd graphics" you'll most probably will never use ...

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Budget is around 450-500 USD. I mostly emulate games and play niche JRPGs, but being able to run most modern games at 60fps medium-high would be a nice bonus.Here's a build one of my friends made that likely sucks. Any help appreciated.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yR6vNN

I feel like i'm pretty comfortable with these parts, but what do I know? I'd like to know if it's worth going cheaper on the video card and the cpu since I'd like to buy a monitor as well, but I haven't decided on how much I want to drop on one. Also, I'm not sure if the case I have is worth the price. Looks nice though.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/pgxhGf

just

>>58742031

I'd add a C7 cooler just to be safe.

>>58742113

pointless

>>58742028
SSD is shit, replace with PNY CS1311 or ADATA SU800, replace HDD with Toshiba P300, replace R4 case with R5 or S or C, the rest is decent.

>>58742015
Please don't buy this, that build is atrocious. Take a look at this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rN4X3F
Had to cut some corners, but for $499 it's still a decent build with good value, G4560 + 8GB 2400 + 1050Ti should give you enough power for modern games.

>>58742031
>just
Describes the build perfectly.

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Red pill me on my $1310.59 build because you love computers:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xnJFHN

I'm looking for high performance 1440p/144Hz gaming without overspending on shit I don't need.
Please alert me if I am being a massive assbucket for failing to generate performance or paying too much.

>>58742234
>Describes the build perfectly.

What's wrong with it?

>>58742251
Mobo needs BIOS flash to work with Kelvin Lake, get 3000/3200 RAM, HGST is fine but 7K2000 is fucking ancient, switch to Toshiba P300, EVGA 1080 is housefire, rest is fine.

>>58742260
SSD is shit, there are better HDDs out there, case is overpriced, 450W is a bad decision and check the prices, seems to expensive, even for australia.