/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RVLKkT

FIRST

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/R4WMm8

I'll be overclocking, but nothing crazy.

>>58742806
Let me guess.

>I'm scared of overclocking
>I love nvidia
>Dude Z motherboards are so EXPENSIVE XDDD

>>58742806
Swap the Roswill for a EVGA or SeaSonic and you'Re good to go, i don't trust Roswill, at all.
Maybe add a Cryorig M9i for $19 so that you don't have to listen to the Intel™ F-35 breaking the sonic barrier.

>>58742847
Looks good.

>>58742312
>>58742324
>>58742397

Thanks for the suggestions, lads. Incorporating the proper RAM into by build. I'll think more about the MoBo, I'm personally having trouble finding one that doesn't annoy me with all it's LED GAMER BS.

>>58742539
I don't know, I'm starting to think he may be in the right. I've been out of building for a while (coming off an 8 year budget med-tier build). I'd certainly get more out of the 1080, but if I'm not going to max 144hz for new AAA, will it be worth it to me?
Since I played many years at Ethiopian-tier 1600x900 before being gifted a 1080p that my hardware wasn't quite ready for, I'd probably shit my pants no matter an 1080 or 1070.

My best course of action may be to get the 1070 and then upgrade later.
Betheshit is my guilty pleasure, and a 1070 should be more than enough for ENB + High Texture.

Tough decisions all around though, so I'll probably ponder about it for hours on end.

Can someone help me build a pc to play games on for a friend of mine. I don't know much so help would be appreciated.

He said he wants to spend between 800-900. I'm from germany

>>58742881

Rosewill Capstone series is Superflower which is good shit, don't knock /everything/ by them.

repostan from old thread

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7ZMP9W

Any comments?

I'm not from the US so some of the picks might look weird, eg. those ASUS 1070s are the cheapest ones here.
6800K just doesn't seem worth it since it's $80+ more than the 5820K here and UV400 SSD because I don't need anything faster.

Also, I will be using Windows 7 so DX12 is irrelevant.

Reposting from last thread.

>>58742397
>For my next build I'm going to to set up a GNU/Linux machine with a Windows VM (hardware passthrough), so I'll need a second gfx card or integrated gfx.

Well I plan to be using Windows. I'm not Tech Savy enough to run Linux yet. Also, since I won't be the only the person using that computer, I don't want to go to the hassle of having to install missing drivers or fixing whatever's wrong cause I was too much of a noob to properly configure something. And I don't think I'm the only case of an integrated graphics being of no use. Why isn't there an option on the market for people in similar situation to mine?

>>58742910
nope, wrong.

I try to fucking educate you 1070lets and instead you just breed more of your kind.

YOU NEED A 1080 TO STAY VIABLE IN 1440p.

Are you really so poor you can't afford a 1080 over a 1070?
1070 is DED for 1440p. Get 1080 or live in regret for the rest of your life

>>58742974
I should probably add that I'm an avid overclocking enthusiast and will fuck around with the BIOS for hours and hours until I find the highest 24/7 clock, and will go upwards of 1.6v for a validation.

>>58742910
>having trouble finding one that doesn't annoy me with all it's LED GAMER BS
Welcome to the world of Kelvin Lake and Union Point. There has never before a generation of mobos with such a disgustingly cancerous (((gaming))) marketing.
MSI PRO mobos have the least LED/trash in them at the moment. They aren't the best but should be enough for the standard consumer.

>>58742931
Didn't know, but that one PSU isn't the Capstone. Speaking of Super Flower, EVGA G3 and Super Flower Leadex II make me wet.
I'll get one for my new build in march/april.

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What should I upgrade first?

how many of you fags use your custom PCs for serious programming and compiling? Do you need anything more than a 4c/8t processor?

>>58742929

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/4T2qWX

>>58743047
6c12t is optimized multithreaded CPU choice

>>58743076
amazing thank you for doing this for me

>>58742999

Can you go be retarded somewhere else?

>>58742999
>Are you really so poor you can't afford a 1080 over a 1070?

I can afford dual 1080s with all the bells and whistles and not feel the pain, but that's not the point.

I'm trying to be a smart consumer and play to what the market is giving me to get the maximum value out of my $.

>>58743144

Don't bother replying who LOL
UPOOR idiots.

>>58742878
>scared of overclocking
would require more expensive motherboard and cooler, I'll upgrade a few years from now if the CPU becomes a bottleneck.
>I love nvidia
The 1060 is as good if not better than the 480
>Z motherboards are expensive
I'm on a budget

>>58743144
Feel free to gimp yourself for no logical reason

btw you won't stay above 60fps on Skyrim ENB you fucking dense motherfucker

You 1070lets are behind. It should be "1080 and upgrade", not "1070 and upgrade"
You are falling behind

>>58742999
>YOU NEED A 1080 TO STAY VIABLE IN 1440p.

No, you don't. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>58743318
0 refutes: the post

>>58743330
Post some comparison graphs and cite your sources you mongoloid. How does a gtx1070 not handle 1440p?

>>58743330

There's nothing to refute. 1070 is capable of hitting over 100fps at 1440 for any modern game when overclocking. If not you'll always be above 60 for any game.

1080 is overkill for now, you're better off waiting for 12gb cards.

I bought an intel xeon

am i a moron?

>>58743394

This, I use a 1070 for 3440x1440.

>>58742999

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf__ZGD9SUQ

my nigga tech deals gonna rip you apart

>>58743418
What are you going to use it for?

>>58743394
Mines sitting at base clocks and I get over 100 on plenty of shooters and warthunder on max settings.

>>58743454
gaming

it's a 1230 e3 I think

>>58743469
base clock of 1596 I believe.

>>58743469

well there you go

the guy's just a fucking retard and mostl ikely trying to justify buying a 1080 and realizing he didn't have to

>>58743473
Yes you are.

>>58743473
Should've gone with an i5 if your only gaming. Xeon is great for servers/workstations.

>>58743518
fuck

well it works fine and I only play 1080p max so I can't be too annoyed

>>58742974
bump

>>58743518
>your
You're*

>>58742999
>YOU NEED A 1080 TO STAY VIABLE IN 1440p

You only need it if you wanna stay over 120fps, but even then you'll probably need 2 to stick to 144.

1070 is perfectly fine for staying over 60fps in 1440p.

>>58742974
Why 3 individual 8gb ram sticks instead of a two pack for 16gb? What are you doing to warrant 24gb of ram?

>>58743705
Because I've got 24GB now (6x4GB) and it'd feel dumb to downgrade.
I very rarely turn off my pc and my ram usage usually hovers around 12~14GB.

>>58742847

get an i7 instead and you're good

i5 is shit

>>58743777
Triple sevens justify the i7.

>>58742847

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xxY6yf

Fixed

>>58743898

>$488

fucc

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PNqLf8

Preliminary part list before I refine it. Budget is $1500. Any obvious problems or tips for someone new to this?

>>58744086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8igq1ffLY0

>>58742539
Not every game has to be played on Ultra. Turn down a couple settings, see no graphical difference, and enjoy your massive FPS boost.

Anyway the 1070 is the second best graphics card on the market, so of course it's going to be great for 1440p. It's not like the 20% increase in performance by moving to the 1080 actually means much. If the 1070 can't do 1440p, nothing can.

Is the Kaby Lake pentium meme legit? Can it play skyrim in 60fps?

>>58744086
Try to get windows free from school or just an inactivated version.

Remember to enable xmp to utilize that 3200mhz ram.

You shouldn't have any issue with using kaby lake on a z170.

Try getting a gpu that's "used-like new" from amazon. It'll be new but open box or just have an ugly box, nothing wrong with the gpu itself. Got myself a gtx 1070 for $350 that way in early December. Also try to see if evga or seasonic have a sale on any of their psus. Never buy a used psu though. And test it before using it with a paper clip to see if it'll power your system before installing everything in a case.

>>58743045
Haswell i3 clocked at 3.5 or higher
RX470
240GB SSD
In that order

>>58744488

but i want to play it at ultra. i'll gladly drop down an extra $200 to play every game at ultra at 80fps at 1440p.

>second best
you mean third
1070
1080
titan x

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so i'm just beyond the point of no return for my build

bought the case, filled it with a phemon x4 980 and a gtx660ti, now it's on to bigger things. bought the 1080, it's working beautifully, and i have a few fans to complement the 3 fans that came with the case.

next will be the mobo/cpu/cooler/RAM, then the monitor/mouse/keyboard, then some LED fans to make it interesting.

then i can finally switch from Xbox one to PC gaming for good.

>>58744599
You still won't get 80FPS in every game on Ultra. The 1070 would be getting 65FPS if that were true

Have fun pissing your money away

>>58744581
All I can get through my school is Win10 Mobile and Server 2016 (Does server support Kaby Lake?), so I will probably have to buy it.

>>58744642
excellent blog post my dude

>>58743898

Actually I was thinking about staying with Skylake..

>>58744732

go fuck yourself, bro

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/jrtmQV

hit me

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BKkGVY
Would this work as a dedicated server?

>>58744947
rated, commented, subscribed

>>58744642
>i5
>for good

toppu kekku

>>58745049

unless you can name 5 AAA games that utilize hyperthreading, it's going to be an i5

>>58745065
I'll be able to name 15 this time next year.

>>58745077

then do 5 now

>>58745015
looks fine

>>58745015
>$140 case has no top cover or dust filter
just dust my shit up

find a case with a more open front intake and has a top dust filter and or cover.

>>58745149

It does though.

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>>58743158
>The 1060 is as good if not better than the 480

>>58745192

He's not wrong. It's much better than the 480.

>>58745065

>>>/v/366009995

what's a reasonable amount to spend on a cpu fan/heatsink?

>>58745177
I'm just talking about the top vent, it is very open from every image I've seen.

>>58745207
Depends on your cpu. The 212 EVO is good, >$30. If you want to oc an i7 to hell, maybe dump $100 to watercooling

>>58745220

it has a dust tray, and I'll be putting two fans there anyway.

>>58745221

It's an i7 920 on a dell 0X501H. I don't plan on overclocking it because it's 8 years old and might have to last another year or a bit more.

>>58743745
>12~14GB

Do you constantly have 500 Firefox tabs open or something?

>>58745198
If he wants 5% more performance right now then that's his choice but that doesn't justify the drop in driver support in the long term. (see 7870 vs 660ti)

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Need thoughts as this is my first build. CPU comes with stock cooler, I don't know if I should buy additional coolers. Also comes with integrated graphics, so I don't know if I'm going to want to get a video card because this is for light gaming like TF2 and CS:GO. If I will need a video card, can I have some reccomendations? Thanks. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WwZ4JV

Hello /g/ I venture forth from the board of chinese girl cartoons in need of your help in building a new gaymen PC from the ground up that will make my wallet blush.

I've been hanging around logical increments, the install gentoo wiki, pc-part picker, and every odds and ends review site but it's time to stop lying to myself that I know what I'm doing. Especially since my current computer is a used medical computer with faulty RAM busses, scavenged GTX 980 TI from a friend’s upgrade, side door taped on, and 400 gig harddrive hanging out the side.

I live in Murrica and my budget is ±2000$. On the most basic level I’d like to finally be able to play videogames with all their fanciest bells and whistles and hopefully future proof a little bit as vidya seem to be taking up more space and resources every damn month. If it’s feasible I’d want to keep the 980 TI, have two monitors in the finished product, and some amount of SSD storage.
I'm sorry if asking all this is frowned upon.

Should I buy a sata M.2 ssd or a regular ssd, I can't afford any of the pci-e ones (at least none that don't have bad user reviews). What a the drawbacks of m.2?

>>58745569
>What a the drawbacks of m.2?
You lose TWO SATA ports, even if it's just a SATA M.2
The PCIe/NVMe M.2 take away four lanes of PCIe 3.0 from either your southbridge (B150 and higher Skylake or later) or the CPU's lanes.

>>58745599
Sata ports probably won't be an issue since my mobo has 6, but what will losing pci-e lanes do?

>>58745077
>next year

>>58745698
>I build PCs so they only play current games

>>58745515
Updated list: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Daubb/saved/HD3gsY

>>58745685
Nothing if you're not doing sli
Also my mobo disables SATA express poets, not sata

So I just found out my display driver was not updated or something of the sort, because I was getting a terrible framerate in the new resident evil with the Rx 480 8 gb

I reinstalled the driver and I got a smooth 60, but why didn't the Crimson relive software update that for me to begin with? The software is meant for that purpose right? How do I know whether I need more driver updates for my build? I don't want to accidentally be running old drivers for the stuff, I just wonder if the mobo manufacturer (msi) has a driver auto detect tool

>>58745705
>I build PCs thinking parts can't be upgraded at a later time
Future proofing is a gamble and the nice thing about PCs is that one can add upgrades at a later time. You sound as if people build a PC once then never again until they build a completely new one.

>>58745721
Alright, thank you. I'll probably stick with regular kssd for now and wait untill the prices for pcie m.2s to drop.

>>58745782
Depends on the parts.

>>58745721
>Also my mobo disables SATA express poets
That includes two SATA ports, dumbass. That's what SATA Express is.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/sWvw8K

Ausfag here, can someone find me a nice monitor?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v2ww8K
Hows this looking? Any suggestions on improvements?

>>58743394
With Sapphire's Fury Nitro at $280, even the 1070 looks overpriced. It handles DX12 better, and is about 10% slower than a reference 1070 in DX11 titles.

>>58745198
The reference 1060 is a lot better than the reference 480. If we're talking about aftermarket cards, the good ones are close enough now that it barely matters. Overall, the 1060 is still slightly faster in more titles than the 480 is, but most users in the market for cards at the price are going to be playing at a resolution where it doesn't matter anyway. Basically, what it boils down to is that the 480 is a better card if you will use Freesync, and the 1060 is a better card otherwise. A year from now, the 480 will probably be faster, but there will be faster cards than either by then for less, so that doesn't really matter. Neither card really handles 1440p well, and playable 4k is out of the question in anything demanding.

I have
>Ivy i7 K
>390x
>4x4 1600mhz
>64gb ssd
>2x 256 ssd R0
>1tb wd black
>30" 2560x1600 6ms TN
>Denon AVR 987
>Kenwood 5.1 HT speakers

Should I even bother upgrading anything?

>>58745515
>>58745709
If you're looking for light gaming, you'll still benefit from a GPU.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4DgdvV
I went ahead and modified your list slightly to be more current, and added a mid-range GPU that should be relevant for a few years.

Tip: Don't buy Windows. Especially Windows 7. It's piss easy to pirate and there's literally no downside.
Compare the checkums on the wiki page here
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Windows_7#SHA1_Checksums
with the torrent downloads here
http://mirror.corenoc.de/digitalrivercontent.net/
to download your preferred version of Windows. I recommend Professional 64-bit.

Activate using this information
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Windows_7#Activation

Since Microsoft really shit the bed and changed the update server a few years ago, you'll need to use the info here to acquire updates on a new install
http://www.howtogeek.com/255435/how-to-update-windows-7-all-at-once-with-microsofts-convenience-rollup/

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nice video game console assembly thread

>>58746212
What did you expect? This is pretty much the /v/ containment thread.

>>58745990
Looks really good.
The Seagate drive you chose is about $10 more expensive than a higher quality Hitachi drive, so changing that out saved some money.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cYDbcc

>>58746163
Not a complete upgrade, but get a new SSD and grab another HDD for more storage.

Wait for Intel's next CPUs and AMD's next GPUs to upgrade anything else.

You guys don't JUST play games on your computers right?
Of the ~10 hours a day I'm on my desktop, at least like 6 of them are spent in a web browser, the rest is a toss up between a game or misc. tasks.

Be me with no job no allowance and only $300

> AMD A10-7870K
> 2x4 2133 mhz DDR3 ram
> a68x msi motherboard
> 320 gb WD Blue 7200 rpm
> 24" LG Ips display (gifted cuz making digital art)

I'm pretty sure I'm ready to get shittied on. But hey I worked with what I had. Way better than a core two duo with 2 gb of ram. At the very least I'd be waiting on at least a gpu upgrade to replace the igpu (probably shoot for an rx 460) and then if push comes to shove just sell the mobo and apu to buy a decent Intel cpu and mobo.

Anyone wanna tell me anything else I could do.

>>58746370
>Anyone wanna tell me anything else I could do.
Get a job instead of spending your last $300 on a computer.

>>58746370
wait until you get a job

>>58746370
Do you ABSOLUTELY have to build a pc now? Can't you wait?

Get a part time job you bum.

Would anyone recommend a reference "blower" 1070 for a mATX build, or should I go with a different cooler style?

So ordered a kabby 7500 with a b250 motherboard.
They dont need a bios update to work with a kabby right they work out of the box tight?

>>58744086

You actually may have an issue with many on 170s, where I work we've had many not post without a BIOS update, and what do you need to post to flash? A skylake chip which is a pain in the arse if you are a diy builder from home. As you're buying multiple components from the same place ask them if they can flash it for you if the board needs it

>>58746579
Yes

>>58746586
Thanks sweetie

>>58746496
Different style
MATX still has plenty of GPU airflow

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>>58746619
*smacks your ass*

>>58746370
Really sucks. You need a flashed B150 and a Pentium G4560 (2c / 4t). That 7870K is way worse, and doesn't really have four cores. The DDR3 will be a waste if you upgrade later to a modern platform.

G4560
B150
4GB 2400MHz DDR4
320GB HDD
400-500W PSU
Case

That's less than 300

You can add more RAM later

>>58742806
>16GB of RAM
>1060 instead of 480

>>58742974
What are you planning on using this PC for?

>>58742974
If you're an "avid overclocking enthusiast", why aren't you going Kaby Lake?

>>58746583

I have an MSI board and they have a BIOS Flashback feature where you can update the BIOS without even needing to turn the system on.

You will need 1 USB formatted with a FAT32 file system, you will need to dump the ROM on it, and you will need to connect the motherboard to the power supply and use the USB drive in a specific USB slot. You press a button on the notherboard and you can flash your BIOS without needing to turn on the PC.

I have this motherboard: http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_z170a_gaming_m7/4.htm and the flashback feature is a fucking lifesaver.

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>put brand new PC together
>RAM doesnt pass Windows memory diagnostics

>>58742806
Don't go 7th generation, Unless you plan on maxing out your PCIE Lanes and OC .
Save a few bucks and go 6th generation.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/DD6cNN

the case excites me

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>>58747003
Send back the ram then. Defects happen

>>58747298
Do you sexually identify as a computer case?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/y8h6yf

Will I need a better HSF? Should I go liquid? It'll sit nicely in this little case actually..

>Buy parts to build a new computer
>Get all the parts and assamble, hyped
>turn it on after I finish
>starts for at least 15 seconds, no display at all but all fans are going
>shuts off
>boots back up and stays on, still no display
>try different psu, same results
>video card runs fine, pretty sure ram does to
>either Cpu or motherboard, cant figure it out
>nothing useful online
I just wanted to make a Pc for my uncle

>>58747444
The H7 is probably the best budget air cooler you can get right now, and should at least get you stable at 4.5GHz.
You'll get much better overclocking potential if you get the 7700K and a Z270 board instead. It costs about the same.

>>58747545
Read your motherboard manual.

>>58747557
I did, was pretty stright forward, all compatible. Bit worried it is a faulty motherboard.

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>loud
>can't even play GTA V on super ultra
>too old for vidya

Worse meme I fell for. Should've stuck with the iMac

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>>58747601

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXQo_nWDVFI

Thoughts?

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>>58742773

Thoughts?

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Thoughts?

>>58746179
Thanks man. I didn't think anybody was actually gonna help me there.

I know this is a very noob question but this is my first build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qnQ33F
Are there any incompatibilities? The keyboard was a gift from a friend so I can't change that.

>>58746851
4K gaming, encoding and rendering.

>>58746921
Becase I need more cores.

>>58743745
20ish tabs in Chromium with half of them being youtube, Tor browser, Photoshop, Steam, I also rarely close CS:GO.

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>>58747601
>iMac
>anything from Apple

>>58748111
Decent start but how about this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n9GBxY
It's generally more balanced.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YDxZGf

The PSU i already have.

inb4 needs more ram

No, i don't.

inb4 why Kaby Lake

for HEVC 10 bit.

Thoughts?

>>58748233
It seems I can't find most of the pieces where I live (Switzerland). Is it worth it to only switch out the motherboard and the PSU you suggested? Or should I stick with what I already have? I mean there aren't any incompatibilities right?

>>58748303

If you're shelling out for a 1080, you might as well get an i7.

>>58748303
>>58748346

also storage units help

>>58748346

Don't really need hyperthreading. The most intense task would be gaming.


>>58748358

I got storage.

>>58748305
Yes, H170 is basically only for SLI, PSU is overkill since you won't OC.
Since you're a mountain jew, can't you simply order from Mindfactory, Caseking or any other german site? I believe they ship to Switzerland and they should have most of the components.
Your build lools fine, but your parts don't have the best value and your GPU is underpowered, change it.

Maybe look at Geizhals.at, they should cover your shops.

>>58748391
>The most intense task would be gaming

so you need hyperthreading in 2017

>>58748405
I switched out the motherboard and PSU as you suggested. What about a GTX 1060 WindForce? Or perhaps another 1060?

>>58748303
Your build is stupid. It's just random shit thrown together in hope it will work..

>>58748427

>hyperthreading in 2017

Can you elaborate? I can't find any relevant sources.

>>58748445

>It's just random shit thrown together in hope it will work

That's why this thread exists. Please elaborate.

>>58748443
Tbh i wouldn't buy GPUs from Gigabyte, their RX480 is shit and the same guy who tested it also tested the 1080 Xtreme who also had some wierd issues, i guess?
For Nvidia stick with Asus, MSI, PNY, Zotac, Palit and Gainward.
Also, why no RX480?

>>58748391

a lot more games nowadays utilize it

Battlefield 1
Ashes of the singularity
Deus Ex Mankind divided
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Hitman
Watch Dogs 2

just recent games off the top of my head

>>58748470
That's why the OP and sites like Logicalincrements exist. We are here to help, not to spoon-feed lazy people.
I tell you one thing you won't read at most sites, single radiator AIOs are overpriced trash and get BTFO by air coolers.

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How is this for someone who won't be overclocking to intensely?

Don't see many reviews of it.

>>58748506
Standard 1070, nothing special, it's ok. Will probably run a little louder and hotter than other custom designs.

>>58748474
I don't have anything against the 480 per se, it's just that I can't afford the 8GB one yet, so I thought a GTX 1060 might be better. How about the MSI 4GB RX480 one?

>>58748592
How comes? RX480 8G and 1060 6G usually cost the same, or are the prices in Switzerland so fucked up?

>>58748495

You seriously think recommendations on a build that actually works without any blatant incompatibilities or imbalances is... spoon-feeding?

Give me one reason this build is objectively stupid, or goes against anything in the OP.

>single radiator AIOs are overpriced trash and get BTFO by air coolers.

I'm only going for a moderate OC, so i'd rather not have a giant heatsink in my case.

>>58748659
Nah I mean, I wouldn't be able to get a 1060 6G either, I was looking at the 3G one. Or should I sacrifice something else in the build? I could go for a cheaper monitor but I'm not sure it's worth it.

>>58748673
>not a giant heatsink
Noctua NH-U14S isn't giant and BTFOs single radiator AIOs, it's also cheaper and doesn't come witu toothpaste preapplied thermal compound, it comes with the excellent NT-H1.

>hurr spoon feed me durr
No. There are some obvious, althougj not dramatic issues with your build which can easily be corrected by reading a few pages on the internet.
This is not your personal tech support.

>>58748673
>Give me one reason this build is objectively stupid


>liquid cooling for a fucking i5
>skimping on CPU for overpriced GPU
>that shit mobo/ram
>that hideous gaymur case
>Bronze 750w PSU

>>58748698
Well, the build i made you is cheaper than your original and incorporates the RX480 which is why i made it in the first place.
Do you have some Switzerland prices comparison tool or specific website you buy from?
Can't believe that's all you mountain jews can chose from.

>>58748673
>i'd rather not have a giant heatsink in my case

just get a C7 then faggot

I currently have an i5 3570k with a non-overclocking motherboard. Are a Z77 board and a 212 Evo a worthwhile upgrade for $100? How much benefit would I see from overclocking?

>>58748725
Yeah I'd like to buy from http://www.steg-electronics.ch or digitec.ch. The reason why I'd like to buy in Switzerland is that I can go take the components myself, I'd like to avoid shipping fees + taxes.
That being said, if it's still cheaper to buy in Germany/France or somewhere close, that would be fine too I guess?

>>58748725
Nevermind looks like I might find everything if I buy from the two different websites separately. Let me see what might be missing.

>>58748725
>>58748775
What about this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WcMfD8
I can find everything in Switzerland and it's cheap enough to incorporate the RX480. Is the RAM alright? Should I change it? I can't find the NT series.

>>58748303

>can't build a PC
>can't even greentext

>>58748711

>obvious not dramatic

An obvious issue would be choosing a Z motherboard for a locked CPU, or a 1000 PSU for a gtx1060.

A build that actually works without major imbalances can't objectively have "obvious issues"

What is obvious is that you're not here to actually help.

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Looking to get a another mini-ITX case as this Raidmax Atomic is too "short" for my GPU (pic related). Currently looking at the NCASE M1, but is there anything similar that's "easier" to buy /g/?

>>58748852
It's fine, Fury Black is good RAM but usually mote expensive which is why i chose G.Skill NT.

>>58748716

>liquid cooling for a fucking i5
It's a cheap and compact AIO, meant to maintain a moderate OC. What's the problem?
>skimping on CPU for overpriced GPU
An 7700 / 1070 would give me less performance than 7600 / 1080. Your argument is invalid.
>that shit mobo/ram
How is a Z mobo by ASUS shit exactly? I had a previous TUF series and it was decent as fuck.
>Bronze 750w PSU
The power is enough, why would i need a gold one?

>>58748916
Yes it can have obvious issues and you are a retard for not recognizing them.

Also Z170 BCLK still works, so your argument is shit.

You're also obviously a lazy tech illiterate fuck who gets triggered easily. I suggest you go back.
>>>/v/

>>58749019
Thanks for your help! I was thinking of switching the RX480 for a GTX1060 6GB Turbo, the price is the same here. Do you think one is better than the other? From what I've seen the GTX1060 looks a bit better in general, but I haven't seen particular benchmarks for these two particular models.

>>58749020
>Your argument is invalid

Cryorig H7 is much cheaper and actually less hassle to install/clean. It's $ cheaper.


GPUs on average need to be upgraded/changed more frequently. CPUs are more inconvenient to mess around with.

You can get a much better mobo for less.

I'm not that guy, but I think your PSU is fine. Although when I go 750 and above, my autism prefers gold.

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>some cunt from /v/ comes in asking for opinions then gets mad when he gets them and pretends he knows what he's talking about

>>58749020
>An 7700 / 1070 would give me less performance than 7600 / 1080

This isn't necessarily true. Ideally you'd go i7/1080, but any sane person would go i-7/1070 over i-5/1080.

Especially where I'm from, the fucking 1080 is over $1000, and a top tier 1070 is like $600. I'd rather wait for a new line of cards than blow my load on the mediocre 1080.

>>58749064
They perform virtually the same. In EU the cheaper card is probably the better choice, which can be the 1060 quiet often.

Anyone >>58749015? I was also interested in the Dan Case A4-SFX, but that costs twice as much as the NCASE M1, shit's rare like unicorns too.

>>58749149
What about the GTX1060 Strix edition? It's on sale and the price is only about $40 more.

>>58749020

>$93
>cheap

Didn't you say you wouldn't be doing much OC'ing? You don't need a liquid cooler. You can just get an air cooler for much cheaper that do a better job.

Also TUF series is shit.

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>>58749132
>1080 is over $1000
>and a top tier 1070 is like $600

jesus christ

>>58748303

you can save a lot of money by not buying literal shit

>>58749097
Stop spoon-feeding that vtard. He won't take your advice anyways.

>>58749164
Good card but i wouldn't pay 40 more for it. If you wan't a 1060 look for chesper options. Maybe you find a EVGA, Zotac, Gainward or Palit. Wouldn't buy a standard "Aktiv" cooled card, though. Those are usually louder and hotter than stuff like MSI TwinFrozr or Palit JetStream.

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>>58749203

If he becomes more defiant, I'll definitely stop,

>>58749097

>GPUs on average need to be upgraded/changed more frequently. CPUs are more inconvenient to mess around with.

I understand that, but considering the fact that i'm probably not going to upgrade anything on this build for at least 3 years, and that i'm going to be running games at 1440p, does it not make more sense to go with the best current combination for the budget that i have?

>You can get a much better mobo for less.

I previously owned a TUF mobo that was perfect for the job. Stable moderate OC, never had any issues. I move my desktop between houses more often than the average person, so supposedly being durable is an argument that works for me.

Can you recommend a better choice?

Thanks for actually trying to help.

>>58749217
Just making sure but I was referring to this card: https://www.steg-electronics.ch/article/Asus-ROG-Strix-GeForce-GTX-1060-O6G-Gaming-20005111.aspx

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A few questions regarding molex connector for the HDDs.
1. Since both of the black wires are ground, can it be substitute for a single common ground wire?
2. Is the cable direction specific? I mean can the red wire switch places with yellow wire?

>>58749217
https://www.steg-electronics.ch/de/article/GeForce-GTX-1060-Gaming--20004761.aspx
Something like this?

>>58749242
Told you it's a good card but it's questionable to pay the 40 bucks premium compared to the STRIX 480.

>>58749298
Alright, I was just making sure because there are two cards named GTX1060 Strix, except one has the ROG tag too.

>>58749286
Mini cards should only be used for "mini" builds imo, your card also has the worse Intel stock cooler like radial topblow heatsink, there's another version (SC??) which has an upgraded heatsink.
But if you ask me, get the 480 and call it a day.

OY VEY DON'T FALL FOR THE 1060 MEME

RX 480 IS LITERALLY CHEAPER AND BETTER WTF I ALMOST BOUGHT A 1060 3GB

What's up with prices these days

>>58749132

>This isn't necessarily true

Is there any scenario in gaming where a 7600k / 1070 outperforms a 6600k / 1080?

I honestly not trying to be a cunt here. If i'm wrong i'll admit it, thank you for your insight and get the fuck out.

>>58749320
Alright, I got you. There's also a GTX1060 ARMOR on sale for 20-30$ less than the 480 Strix.

>>58749336

I meant 6700k / 1070 outperforming a 6600k / 1080

>>58749226

I don't recall 100%, but I'm pretty sure you said you wouldn't be going overboard with overclocking, so this should suit you.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vPv8zM

>>58749336
>Is there any scenario in gaming where a 7600k / 1070 outperforms a 6600k / 1080?

strangely a lot of new open-world games are getting more out of hyperthreading so even with a 1080 you'll get a lot of frame-pacing issues from time to time if you have an i5

>>58749365

oh silly me, you won't need a 750w PSU either if you're not planning on manually overclocking a lot, so you'll be saving even more money

>>58749354
Armor is shit, if you want MSI stick with Gaming X or what it's called.
Personally i will go with that card in march if priced don't change, it goes for 250 in germany.

>>58743158
Jet has i5-6400 for $153.
You can buy Z170 mobo for $90-100. Roughly $250. + $30 Hyper212 CPU = $280.

Your CPU + Mobo costs ~$275.

3.4Ghz is what you get with i5-7500. Meanwhile with i5-6400, you can push it to 4.5Ghz @ 1.3v stable and <50-60C on full load with Hyper212.

That's ~34% increase in CPU clock for virtually same price, with better motherboard.

>MY MOM TOLD ME YOU CAN'T OVERCLOCK LOCKED SKYLAKE

RX 480 edges over 1060 these days due to driver efficiency, hardware power and transition towards more DX12/Vulkan titles.

$250 on 1060 is wasted compared to same priced or cheaper RX 480 8GB. Not just in price but also in performance.

Fractal case is pure meme.

There are cheaper RAM

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Okay, I haven't built a PC in over a decade. Case fans are confusing me a bit. I know this cute fucker comes with a 140 in the front for intake, and a 120mm at the back for exhaust.

My question is, if I plan on putting two 140s in the front, should I put twin 120mm ones up top?

Would be nice if someone chose the fans/speeds for me. I seem to recall people saying the intakes should be more powerful.

>>58749412
Alright, thanks for helping me.

Is there any RX 480 that's less than 9inches length?

I have a mid tower but it has a drive bay in the way and only has space for like 10inches. I'm not 100% sure if anything close to it would fit

>>58749365

>shaved enough money for the i-7 with no compromise

nice

>>58749399

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8M6njc

I added a PSU. EVGA are okay, they're all made by Seasonic anyway.

>>58749453

I'm sure someone could improve on it, but the main point I was trying to get across is shaving away dollars on needless shit so he could get an i7 without any real compromise. Some people might argue the H7 isn't enough, but he said he wouldn't be going hard on the overclocking, so it's perfectly fine for mild jobs.

>>58749431
Sweet spot is 2 intake 1 exhaust, good fans are Noctua and Be Quiets.

>>58749446
Shortest is something like 9.4in

>>58749523

ah so I'll just leave it how it is but just add one intake?

cheers

>>58749515
Your PSU is absolute shit desu senpai

>>58749539

could you suggest a better one for a lower price?

not being smart, psu's are my weak point to be honest

>>58749412
Here's the final build, I ended up going for Palit: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/phd8zM

>>58749226
>>58749365
>>58749399
>>58749515
>>58749539
>>58749555

just stick with that 750w

>>58749555
Don't skip on the PSU, especially not if you want to OC. Get the EVGA G2 or Seasonic G 650 W.

>>58749539

Why exactly?

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>>58749664

>>58749365

Thanks for the build. I honestly appreciate the help.

Are there any drawbacks of the mobo being micro ATX?

>>58749380

>strangely a lot of new open-world games are getting more out of hyperthreading so even with a 1080 you'll get a lot of frame-pacing issues from time to time if you have an i5

There is a considerable gain on multiplayer games like BF1 that i was not aware of, so you're right on the i7 actually making a difference. Could you elaborate on the "frame pacing" issues? Is it something that can't be fixed with Riva Tuner or anything software-wise?

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>>58749795
>Are there any drawbacks of the mobo being micro ATX?

If you're not overclocking heavily or opting for SLI, not really. Go ATX if you want to though, doesn't hurt. I just thought you preferred mATX.

Also no problem. Don't know why everyone was so harsh towards you.

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I posted on /sqt/ >>58749177
But I thought I might get better answers here.
Any small compact PSU to use to power HDD?

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Is he right?

>>58749850
Yes. The 1070 offers far better value, the 1080 is only this expensive because there's no competition and Nvidia knows it.

>>58749795
>>58749832

fuck my eyes - I thought your initial choice was an mATX

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HBJzCy

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What is bettter for gayming:
My friends used pc with 960 and i7 4770k for $550
or
https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/jnFfrH/entry-level-gaming-build
(could change gpu for 1060)
something like this, is it worth to get 2nd brandnew over used pc?

>>58749850

I love this guy, he's an excellent salesmen.

>>58749933

Yeah that makes more sense. Considering there's not much of a price difference though, why did you choose the GA-Z270XP over the ASUS?

Also, is the TUF claim not legitimate?

>>58750201

just trying to keep is as close to your initial total cost as possible

it's just a template for you

you can up the mobo if you want, but if you're not going nuts with the overclcoking ,I wouldn't bother spending too much more on a mobo unless sound quality is a big deal to you

>>58750239

>just trying to keep is as close to your initial total cost as possible

I see. So my options are either to get the i7 (and slightly faster ram?) and keep my original build as it is having the option to OC a bit more, or cut the budget down on mobo / cooler / case, get the i7 and go for a small OC?

>>58749993
>>58749993
Friends pc. This i7 will be much more futureproof so you'll save even more money in the end and will be able to upgrade to vega if needed.

>>58750377

yeah you don't need that more expensive case, liquid cooling, or mobo meant for heavy OCing

save price on those randoms factors to get an i7 because newer games have really been taking advantage of it

does anyone here have a pentium g4560? How often does it reach 100% usage in games

>>58750377

putting cpu ahead of gpu is always a better train of thought

think of it this way

you can't SLI cpus

>>58749850

when he says the 2 fan version of the gaming 1 does he mean the windforce?

>>58749993
Friends PC. The build sucks ass and the i3-6100 has becomes obsolete with the G4560.

>>58750502

yeah but it isn't factory overclocked, and the price difference is so negligible you might as well go with Gaming 1

$200 dollar difference between an RX480 and GTX 1070.

Which one should I go for?

>>58750627
~50% performance difference in synthetics
~30-40% difference in game benchmarks

~100% difference in pricing

Not efficient if you're looking for bang/buck

>>58750627
Stupid question, those cards play in different leagues and serve different purposes.

>>58750659

elaborate

>>58750627

1070

would a GTX 1050 Ti paired with a G4560 ever consume more than 150/160W of power at a gaming load? I know Intel's specified 54W TDP isn't exactly the maximum it will go, so I'm accounting for some extra 10W on the processor here despite the odds of it going over 54W being slim; however the 1050 Ti will most likely always stay around the promised 75W.

So 75+65 = 140
ITX motherboard + 5W
m.2 SSD +5W
RAM +3W
a couple of usb 3 devices +5W
Total: 158W

is this a reasonable estimate? Just curious if a system like this would hold up with a picopsu

>>58750627

As a fellow Ausfag, definitely. That's damn near $200 you can put towards a Freesync monitor. I recommend AOC for a bargain.

>>58750852

Okay, how's this?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/sBCpFd

>>58750757
>picopsu
No. You have to account for spikes and those PSU's aren't anywhere close to efficient. Why do you want a PicoPSU anyways?

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got a 6 years old mid-range GPU in my prebuilt Dell from 2011 which has a nice CPU but that's it. Should I get a cheap rx460 (170$) to last a few years and then get a whole new rig or should I drop more money now to get rx480 and a new psu+case 450$+? It seems like a nobrainer to pay not even 70$ (CAD) more to go from 460 to rx480 but then I have to change my PSU, so why not get a new case and an SSD while I'm at it.

I only play in 1080p and I dont mind not getting top ultra on everything but would like to do high settings for a bit. I'm used to disable shadows and AA anyway.

>>58750757
>ITX motherboard + 5W
No. More like 20 W. I'm pretty sure the CPU will stay under 54 W though. And you won't be seeing a situation where your GPU and CPU both draw their maximum power, unless you're running intelburntest and furmark at the same time. It might be okay with a 160 W picopsu, but I wouldn't count on it.

>>58750012
I'm only looking to upgrade my GPU and he almost sold me on that 700$ prebuilt video you see on his frontpage of the channel.

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Hey guys, I'm looking for a 990 chipset board for my AM3+. I've got the Gigabyte 970a-ds3p (pic) right now and overclocking is a bitch on this thing. I think the VRM's are limiting me from going past 4.5 GHz as my multipliers get throttled down to x7 (from x20) as my peak temps on my CPU are 47c. As you can see, the CPU is only being supplied with a 4+1 phase connection, so if I get a mobo with beefier VRM's and 8 pin will I be able to achieve more out of my overclock? Any recommendations?

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>>58749844
Anyone?
The only things I found are these http://a.co/8WFgui5
My greatest concern is the molex plug, since I can't tell which rail is the 12V and which is the 5V.

The same goes for the Molex to SATA adapter http://a.co/128SSzN is there a way to test it?

>>58750888
>those PSU's aren't anywhere close to efficient
what are you talking about? PicoPSUs are known for having remarkable efficiency
like 96%+

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AYYMD board partner with the best warranty?

>>58750880

stick with the 1070

you'll never reach 144 fps with an RX

Will future games be better optimised for 4c/8t?

For 60+ FPS

1080p budget = RX480

1440p budget = GTX1070

There, everyone shut up now.

>>58751305
/thread
Unless of course muh 1080p 144 fps and muh futurebroofing maymay.

>>58751305
is it better to wait though? People say the 480 is a great leap from past gens for the price but with all the new resolutions and higher framerates available will we see new similar arrrivals in the next year/s?

>>58751305
Could use 470 or 1060 for 1080p

>>58751215
Yes, but an i5 is plenty right now. By the time an i7 is worth it, they'll be a lot cheaper

>>58750932
>recommendations
Save yourself the trouble and buy Intel or wait for Ryzen

>>58750897
Upgrade gfx, PSU, SSD

>>58750627
If you're at 1080p, the 480.

>>58750426
It will reach nearly 100% in a lot of games. Doesn't mean it's bad if you need a budget CPU

>>58749993
You'll have to sell the 960 if you want good gaming perf. And you'll want an SSD

Do I upgrade my intake fans first or my exhaust fan?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HtJ7Z8

Any known issues with these parts? Every youtube reviewer wanks off phanteks and corsair, but I've heard corsair PSUs are iffy

Building for a friend, his is old and dying, so waiting for zen/vega isn't really an option

>>58751783
Thanks.

>>58751896
Intake, though I doubt it will really matter.
>>58751928
Looks good to me. You may want to go with a quad core processor though.

>>58742773
Would it be worthwhile to replace a stock cooler with an evo or something if I just can't stand the noise when playing cpu intensive games?

>>58752059
Yep.

>>58752090
My other thought was maybe to get a different case or something to muffle the noise a bit better.

>>58745065
Oh you're that faggot from the /v/ thread who got proven wrong multiple times with benchmarks and 5 games being listen and still didn't fucking listen becuase you're poor
Have fun with your kabylake housefire you faggot

>>58751928
Looks good, but if you can figure out how to have the board flashed with the Kaby Lake update, you can get the G4560 for 50 bucks less

>>58751928
The i3-6100 has become obsolete, either get the G4560 or upgrade to at least the i5-6500.

Is there any reason to not get an Amp! Extreme 1070? It's one of the cheaper 1070s right now and it seems to have the best cooler if size is any indicator

>>58752548
It's heavy.

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is this a good build? I want to be able to play the newest games.

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>>58751928
>>58752031
>>58752359
>>58752498

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GmWGHN

found a fractal case on sale, just placed the order. I must be getting old, most new pc cases and cars look like shit

Flashing the mobo isn't really available, I live in the boondocks of Delaware. The i3 6100 shows faster than i5 6500 single core as well.

>>58753641
Consider getting 2x8gb 2400mhz, you could do with only 500w psu, everything else looks fine

>>58753678
>The i3 6100 shows faster than i5 6500 single core as well.
quad core > dual core, all decent builds are i5 for a reason

>>58753678
>gets useful advice
>ignores it
You could have saved about $50-60 bucks by getting the G4560.

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>>58753703
the 600 is actually cheaper than most of the 500w ones on that site.

Is this build much better?

Should I get a GTX 1080 (upgrade from a 970) or a ultrawide monitor?

>>58753864
>two GPUs
You can send me either one, thanks senpai.

>>58753900
i forgot to remove it. take the 1060 out

>>58753893
Ultrawide

>>58753905
No, you buy it and give it to me.

>>58753934
deal but only if you tell me if that build is ok :3

>>58753678
>I must be getting old, most new pc cases and cars look like shit

Kek. I'm glad we moved on from that plastic ricer tier looking shit.

>>58753967
It is, but PSU is overpriced imho and for 66€ you can get the Nanoxia DS3 case which is an excellent budget silent case that already comes with 3x120mm silent fans.
And do yourself a favour and add a <30€ cooler, Intel stock coolers aren't fun. Personally i'd get a different 1070:
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-Gainward-GeForce-GTX-1070-Phoenix-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1094868.html
I don't trust Gigabyte with GPUs anymore. The RX480 G1 is shit and the GTX1060 Xtreme, which is the top model of Gigabyte's 1060 line-up, has some weirdness to it, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKDwRcjsZns
For PSU:
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/520-Watt-Seasonic-S12II-Bronze-Non-Modular-80--Bronze_640838.html
OR
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/550-Watt-Corsair-Vengeance-550M-Modular-80--Bronze_1031392.html

>inb4 Corsair
Vengeance is actually very good as a budget PSU, the others suck ass.

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>>58742773
I currently have dual 480s with a 975x.
Would upgrading to dual 680s for $150 worth it? I can probably talk him down to maybe $120.
I have a 650watt CPU that has no issue running the 480.

Which gen of Intel CPUs is the best to build using used components?
Which supports M.2?

Trying to build a Mini ITX to take with me to friend's houses, conventions, tournaments, etc. Preferably able to run games and stream at the same time. Not going for anything crazy, 1080p60 max.

This is what I have so far. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hxRssJ

My friend keeps trying to convince me that the G4620 has performance on the same level as the 4th gen i5 I have in my current home build. Is that true, or is he full of shit? If it is true, is that per-core, or overall? I would assume if I want to stream that I should be springing for 4 cores over 2, but then again I haven't paid much attention. Budget hopefully around $600-700, but up to $800 is okay.

>>58754510
Haswell are the oldest with m.2 support I think. It's not a great idea though because Intel core i* chips don't really drop in value, even used.

>>58754239
>SLI meme
Worthless

>>58754510
Ivy Bridge i7 3770K
Haswell H97 or Z97 support m.2

>>58754530
2x 8GB RAM
240GB SSD
1060

>>58754667
>>SLI meme
>Worthless
well I have it now, and it works great. I can up my generation for around $100. I feel like that's worth it.

>>58754667
>Ivy Bridge i7 3770K
Should I look for the 2011 socket? The extreme editions are not that much more expensive used than the 3770.

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Tech illiterate here. So if I buy a card like the evga gtx 1060 ssc which requires an 8 pin. These two 6 pins (these are two separate 6 pins, right?) just plug into a converter that takes 2 6 pins and make sure them 8, right?

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What's the best CPU I can get for the 1366 socket? 990X or is there a Xeon that will perform better?

>>58754798
That's like saying a CRT "works great"
An i7 7700K + r9 270 "works great"
A GTX 1080 at 720p "works great"
A 480p video "works great"

Get fucked. Also SLI does not work great. Most of the time profiles aren't even ready at launch and have horrible 20% scaling boosts and a whopping 2GB of VRAM in your case.

A single 1050Ti will be better.

How often do you guys replace video cards?

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Will the 1060 3gb be good for future titles with that little Vram? I am debating between a 130$ for a 1050 ti and 195$ for a 1060.

>>58755175
RX470 4G it is.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gjtt4C

Will this all fit in this case? Me and my friend are about to start ordering parts soon, and everything will be compatible, but I'm not sure about the actual space. Is it too big? Too small? Just right? I don't wanna order shit until I know.

>>58755263
>i can't read
This is you right now.

Crucial MX300: reasonably fast?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xG4X3F

I got some advice the other day for this build, so now I'd like to know if this machine could be any better or perhaps cheaper. I can't really go any higher than the price it is now, I really just am wondering if I could go cheaper without any major differences in performance. I'm planning on gaming in 1080p with this.

>>58755175
games use vram more and more. mostly due to shitty programming but still.

get the 6gb version

My fans plug into a wire which connects to a molex connector but the molex/peripheral connector on my PSU won't go into the back of the fan molex.
Why not? Does it not work that way? What other kind of connector does it need?

>>58755324
So is that a yes or a no. Spoonfeed me.

Reminder: the 1070 is NOT a real 1440p/144hz card.

You are NOT going to max games.

The "muh 60fps on high" will NOT allow you to mod any texture packs or graphic mods.

All 1070lets must admit they are part of the peasant class. Your card is NOT VIABLE FOR 1440p.

You need a 1080, or better yet, a 1080ti in March.

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>>58755833

>>58750932
There aren't that many new 990X or 990FX boards left. Just look for boards that are stated to be compatible with the FX-9370/9590. Those have beefed up VRMs and power delivery to support a 125W+ CPU.

>>58755835
There isn't a single game I own that can push my budget 1070 below 70fps at 1440p maxed settings
But that's never an issue because I average 90fps on maxed settings

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>>58755835
>he bought a 1080 for 1440p and regrets it

>>58754667
>2x 8GB RAM
>240GB SSD
>1060

This isn't exactly helpful. I get that a 1060 may be better for gaming overall, but I'm not sure I'll need it. The 1050 Ti is supposed to be above the 960's level of performance, which should be more than enough for my needs.

Can you give me an answer about the CPU?

Is the 1060 still the best bang for your buck at the moment? I'm running a GTX 645 which is basically hot garbage at this point.

I'm not looking for 4k or anything insane, I'd just like to be able to run games well at 1080.

Suggestions? The rest of my specs are decent at best.

Intel Core i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GH

16 gigs DDR3

Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Mobo

Anything you all would recommend instead?

>>58756137
The RX 480 4GB is currently the budget king
There's a model on Newegg going for $175 ($155 after MIR)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qejWBgM0ppE
Just stay away from the 1060 3GB. 3GB on a card these days is retarded. The 1060 6GB is also pretty good, but the 480 8GB has been starting to perform toe to toe with it. If you're going for the latter two, just get whatever's cheapest.
Your setup looks pretty decent still. The 3770 should still be pushing along fine.

>>58756472
Fuck wrong link
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137049&cm_re=rx_480-_-14-137-049-_-Product

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How should I go about upgrading this?

Would a heavy overclock and an SSD be a good start?

>>58742773
I want to sell some pc components so that I could start a new build once Rysen and/or Vega comes out. The thing is, I don't know how much money I should sell my pc parts for individually or all together and start a fresh new build. Anyways, here are the parts:

>CPU: AMD FX 8320 (Never Overclocked)

>Motherboard: M5A78L-M/USB3

>GPU: ASUS Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition DirectX 11 HD7870-DC2-2GD

>RAM: Patriot Viper 3 Series DDR3 8GB 1600MHz (2x4)

>PSU: Thermaltake 500W

>CASE: Antec Three Hundred Two + Disk Drive

I have a build with the following specs;

i7 960
Cooler master hyper 212
Asus p6x58d
18 gigs of ddr3 2666
Samsung evo 850 250GB
Seagate barracuda 3tb 7200rpm
Evga geforce gtx 970
Evga g2 650W 80+

Should I sell this build as is before it gets too obsolete, which would make me purchase something new, or should i just keep it? i7 960 is almost trash tier, but there's still a huge market for 1366 boards. The price of DDR3 is pretty high right now, however I am not sure if people are still purchasing it. Should I sell the parts individually? I am just not sure what to do with the situation. Any and all advice is welcomed, thanks.

Best 1070 brand?

Zotac AMP?
MSI Gaming?
EVGA Black?

What is best value?

>>58756734
Best value is the $370 gigabyte card

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fQxy8K

I'm looking to build a PC for HTPC use.

Running Windows 7, I also want to be able to emulate PS2 and below and play older titles like New Vegas.

Can I build something cheaper than this?

>>58756537
How much do you want for it? I'll offer a fair price without the SSD, GPU, and hard drive

>>58756849
Right in the OP
>Subsitute a G4560 with 2400MHz RAM for the i3-6100 in any build; same performance, half the price.

>>58755099
I play two games, and SLI works great on my end.
I am not gonna buy some low tier video card. I like to have flagship components of the proper generation.

>>58756849
>HTPC
In what world is the N200 HTPC?

>>58756849
I managed to get an RX 480 4GB, and a 240GB SSD in there for you, anon~
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K76hBP
The G4560 is basically an i3-6100 but cheaper. Note that the motherboard may not have a BIOS that supports those kaby lake chips.

>>58756916
SSD isn't a huge issue since I have a home server built. Just need enough for the OS tbqh

>>58756937
You can spend the extra $10 for a 120GB one compared to that 32GB one. Might as well.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m34NnQ/sandisk-ssd-plus-120gb-25-solid-state-drive-sdssda-120g-g26

>>58756948
I noticed that SSD prices are kinda funky

With that build will I be able to run modern games?

I think the only AAA title I want to play are GTA and Alien Isolation

>>58756978
The build I linked should be able to demolish the latest titles. The CPU might fall a bit behind in more CPU intensive titles like GTA5, but should still be solid regardless.

>>58757010
What about emulation? Can the new Pentiums handle PS2/Wii/GC emulation? That's about as CPU heavy as you get.

>>58757041
I'm running an i3-6100, and it ran Dolphin no problem. Like I said, the G4560 is pretty much an i3-6100.
Haven't tested PS2 emulators, CEMU, or Citra on it, though. I assume they'll be fine.

Best value 2TB harddrive?

>>58756865
I just purchased the new CPU fan and PSU for 120 or so(they're not even open yet) and the MOBO for 180. 50 bucks for the i7 960, 100 or so for the RAM. Call it 300?

>>58757275
450*

>>58757215
HGST 7K2000/3000, but those are ancient drives, i prefer the new Toshiba P300.

>>58757215
Toshiba P300
It's the fastest of the 2TB non-SSHD drives

new thread?

>>58742773
I fell for the liquid cooling meme and bought a h100i v2 and the pump failed within three fucking months.

What's a solid fan to stick on this? I'm using an i5 6600k and a Corsair 500R chassis.

I've heard of Cryorig H7, 212 EVO and Noctua fans in particular. Is there something that comes out on top for any particular reason?

Would really appreciate any help on this cause I don't trust stock coolers which is what I'm forced to use for now.