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/pcbg/ - Video Game Console Assembly General

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Post your component list, rate other anons', and ask questions in general.

Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.

Assemble your parts list; built-in price comparisons by vendor and a compatibility filter.
https://pcpartpicker.com

Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
>Subsitute a G4560 with 2400MHz RAM for the i3-6100 in any build; same performance, half the price.
>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build without a Z mobo
>Consider a B150 or H110 mobo for any i3 build
>Add a 240GB SSD to the "Great" tier build

General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.
http://pastebin.com/9Pbm4nHL
>Outdated, does not including info about 200 series chipsets

Information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc.
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with >>>/g/pcbg

Previous thread: >>58691213
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Is 1.32 volts a lot of voltage to get a 6600k to 4.5GHz? I've read that 1.3v was already pretty high
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>>58709037
I want to cum inside Nanami-chan!
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>>58709091

Thats a shitload of volts for an Intel chip - possibly dangerously so.
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>>58709091
You're too high.
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>>58709172
Online people are regularly posting over (and under) 1.3v for their skylake overclocks, I had mine at 1.25v/4.3GHz but I saw a video of some guy using 1.45v so I assumed 1.32v couldn't be that bad
>>58709187
Is temperature the only danger or can high voltage damage my CPU even at normal temps?
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>>58709037
Aren't electrostatic bags supposed to be very dangerous on the outside?
I thought the whole point was that the inside of the bag was electrically isolated from the outside
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Any recommendations on a z270 mobo? 7700k going in it, but from what I've read all z series will overclock, so not sure what the point of a $300 mobo would be. I have no m.2 drive yet, but plan and getting one, I use it for gaming, specifically single threaded games that need strong cores, and music creation.
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>>58709385
MSI z270 SLI seems to be working fine.
No ugly LED's on the motherboard either, like gigabyte garbage
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>>58709420
This one? All of the Gigabyte midrange have no led's, but the initial reviews seem to be they run hot out of the box, like 10C above asus and msi.
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>>58709272

1.45v is absolutely insane for Intel chips - hell most of AMD's 8 core fx chips run below 1.45v. You don't pump that through a chip without knowing what you are doing.
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>>58709499
Gigabyte ultra durable is the go-to lineup for /pcbg/
MSI used to be complete trash, worse reputation than asrock for a while, I don't know if the new ones still are now, I never wanted to find out
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>>58709499
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144004&cm_re=MSI_z270_sli-_-13-144-004-_-Product

This one.


I don't know what the "plus version" adds, besides being uglier.
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>>58709533
What was trash about them exactly? (not him btw)
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>>58709528
The spec sheet apparently says the limit for skylake is 1.53v if I stay below that and within safe temps it shouldn't hurt the CPU right?
What is the worst that could happen from 1.33v of high voltage? (I guess the voltage limit is higher than I thought too)
I don't know at all myself, I'm just seeing half the people online say 1.3+ is too high and half the people online run 1.4v saying it's fine
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>>58709565
Quality control
Same problem with basically any and every motherboard.
Features aren't a big deal now, it's all built into the chipset, motherboards basically come down to which chipset it uses, what slots it has, and build quality
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>>58709528
What do I need to know? I don't know what I'm doing, all I've changed is the multiplier and the vcore
Do I need to adjust other things to keep it running cool and stable?
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>>58709626
Yeah but I mean... do they just suddenly stop working or come DOA.

I have a MSI z270 board so I'm worried now.
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>>58709533
I've always used gigabyte, and love the dual bios and they do last when running 24/7, but hate the io panel it ships with.
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>>58709611
>>58709653

http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/skylake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics
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>>58709761
This makes me feel better, seeing so many people ranging up to 1.4v and above. Interesting that 4.5GHz is achievable at lower voltages, but 4.6GHz and above generally needs well over 1.3v
I'll see if I can get it stable at 4.6 without bumping the voltage too high (maybe 1.35 should be my max?)
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>>58709499
>150 for this shitpile of a board
>Z170 UD3 and has better VRM
Union Point boards are so ridiculously stupid priced. Fuck Kaby Lake and fuck Intel for this.
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>>58709904

If you can cool it, clock it.

This does mean keeping an eye on your motherboard as well at high(er) voltages.
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>video game console assembly general.

Damn, for a second I thought there was a general here for shit like NES ASM programming. Got my hopes up.
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>>58709921
>Z170 UD3
>better VRMs
No it doesn't. Just compare the number of power phases and the chokes they used.
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>>58709921
t. gigabyte shill
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>>58709953
No, we just assemble parts for Windows-based video game consoles here
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>>58709971
Number of phases isn't everything, by that logic ASRock would be the best choice for everything.
>the chokes they used
Source?

>>58710005
t. MSI shill
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I bought an ASRock mobo. Am I fucked?
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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hcnfD8

What's a good monitor for this build?
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>>58710053
Gigabyte UD and mid-tier MSI boards use the same exact chokes from the same factory.
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I'm thinking of getting a GPU.
Due to size and power restrictions I was looking at Zotac's GTX 1050 Ti
Am I correct in assuming I'll be able to play all current games at a stable 30fps?

The processor is an i7-7700t
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>>58710274
no, solid mobos despite what /g/ says
in fact I'd argue they're the best mobo manufactorers in the world at the moment
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Purpose- Gaming
Budget- 800$ not including processor
I have a hard drive, power supply, tower, and an optical drive
i don't know a lot about computer parts so I've been asking friend what to get but i don't know what is the best brands for quality and performance wise
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>>58710836
For a processor i was thinking an AMD
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>>58710540
Great source, you mind if I quote you in this email I'm writing to gigabyte and MSI?
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>>58710274
You're not fucked until it breaks.
Until that day, enjoy it, as it will work properly until it doesn't
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>>58709148
She is not for lewding!
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>>58710836
assuming you won't overclock

get a z270 motherboard and an i7-7700k

for the GPU get a gtx 1080
then 16gb of DDR4 ram 2400
what is your power supply? you might need a new one, looking at that pic it seems your parts are quite old
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>>58711019
They are a few years old
the power supply is a 100-240v
the hard drive is 1 terabyte
It is very simular to the one in the pic
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>>58711096
>the power supply is a 100-240v
kek that's good to know but what about the wattage?
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>>58710540
>source = my ass
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>>58711150
Just shows how much i know, it is a 550
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>>58711019
>assuming you won't overclock
>suggests OC mobo and unlocked CPU
Are you retarded?
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>>58711019
>get a gtx 1080
Thats already pushing >>58710836 $800 budget
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>>58711281
I'd just prefer to stay under $1,000
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>>58710877
Anything but a 8350 is ultra shit, and even an 8350 is shit, just get an i3 and a RX480, a tiny SSD and a cheap HDD, plus the rest of the computer
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Is it true that i7 is just a meme and that you're better off sticking with i5 even with high end GPU?
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>>58711415
I've heard that but couldn't find out which is truly the best
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>>58711415
Hyperthreading is not a meme, it's just that many applications (mostly games) can't use it to it's full potential
But when you can use hyperthreading fully, you get some immense gains, similar to adding extra cores
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>>58711363
What monitor are you playing games on? Would you consider a monitor upgrade later on?
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>>58711436
So I guess the next question is would games be able to utilize hyper-threading anytime soon?

Even though I'm trying to 'futureproof' as much as I can (big budget), I don't want to spend extra on hardware that isn't going to benefit me anytime soon.
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>>58711514
With DX12 taking off and Vulkan so widely praised it would look that way. But even last year that wasn't the case and only some games were using plenty of threads (battlefield1 for example)
While I do think a quad core i5 will be enough to handle future games (I'm using a 6600k now), an i7 wouldn't be a bad choice, especially if you do more than just play games.
But as it stands now, speed is still more important than threads and i5's are just as fast as i7's thread vs thread
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>>58711465
The monitor is an Asus, couldn't tell you any more about it
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What CPU cooler do you guys recommend?
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>>58709091
Not on Skylake.

>pic related
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>>58711758
Budget and CPU?
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>>58711773
>Nearly 1.6v at 5GHz
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>>58711793
$50 intel Core i5-6600K
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>>58711875
Hyper 212 evo and $25 of weed
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>>58711875
Cryorig H7 or H5. Don't listen to this >>58711898 degenerate. Weed is for niggers and loser NEETs and the H7 is better than the 212.
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How retarded is this build? Mainly want an HTPC.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sjmw8K
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>>58711938
>HTPC
>ATX
You might as well get a standard tower, why bother with HPTC if you don't want to save space?
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>>58711936
Hyper 212 evo and $25 of meth to rice your desktop all night
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>>58711688
Interesting, thanks for the insight.

This will be a tough decision for me. My history indicates that when I create a new build I hang on to it for a long time. [spoiler]Although I make a lot more money now so I will probably be LOL to that because that's eventually what this hobby turns you into.[/spoiler]
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>>58711994
>taking any drugs
>ever
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>>58711957
I can't seem to find a smaller board with an M.2 and built-in Bluetooth and WiFi. Either that or I suck at finding them. Also forgot the Power supply.
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>>58712070
>Either that or I suck at finding them
You suck at finding them. There are many mATX Union Point boards with M.2 support, i guess a fair portion also supports WiFi, no idea about ITX though.
Also, if you want to OC then imho you shouldn't get a HTPC build, cooling on those is almost always an issue unless you want to spend stupid money on a capable ITX board, case and AIO.
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Hello, Printed Circuit Board General.
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What is a Graphics Card that you guys would recommend? stay under $500
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>>58712418
Idk how much a GTX1080 costs in US, if it's over $500 then the only logical choice is a 1070.
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>have country set as australia on pcpartpicker
>550 bucks for a new motherboard and stuff
>set country to usa
>380 dollerydoos
just fuck me up
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how many of you unashamedly have ricer LED builds?
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>>58712600
well it's adjusted to your higher wages
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Has anyone here built their own case? What do I need to know? I'm going to be building an itx aluminium case for a mini pc
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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824106004

Is this a meme or worth it?
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>>58712418
>>58712473
1080 is $600 minimum. 1070 is $400
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Guys my pc keeps shutting down while gaming, this can be 5 mins into opening the game or 5 hours.

Something's wrong with the PSU right?
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Gaming at 1080p/144hz

GTX 1060 or GTX 1070
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>>58712918
if you have a system that can both pull the frames and resolution for the games you want to play, then I guess go for it, if not, don't waste your money.
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Any gripes?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2HyCgL
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>>58712968
i got a 1080 with a 6700k
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>>58712929
Then get a good 1070, there's no other reasonable choice with a budget of $500.

>>58712992
The fans are trash, rest looks decent.
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>>58713067
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>>58713039
ok, what do you play? witcher 3 or cs:go level demanding games, something in the middle?
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>>58713058
>The fans are trash, rest looks decent.
What do you recommend for fans?
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>>58713067
lol not even a button on the case to change the color, fucking shite
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>>58713108
lol i got like 400 hours on witcher 3
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>>58713117
Noctua NF-A or Be Quiet! Pure/Silent Wings 2/3.
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>>58713128
well in that case, the monitor is a big meme, save yourself a couple hundred dollars and go with a 1440p 60hz monitor.
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>>58713194
im thinking 1080p 144 though
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>>58712962

bump
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>>58713226
1070 if you want to keep the card for some time.
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>>58713199
for AAA games, you're still not going to be pulling those kinds of framerates, with the 1080, you can play at play a locked 60 at 1440 and very playable 4k. you can forget about playing at 144hz without lowering the settings by a lot or playing less demanding games.
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>>58713299
Is there a way to force my graphics card to draw 1440p even if i only have a 1080p monitor?
I want to run some tests and see if it would be worth it with my own hardware
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How does this look? I'm going to point out now that in the long run I 40% of the total cost will be returned/reimbursed and so with this cart, it effectively costs around £570.

What would you add/replace? Main storage will be backed off the a Synology DS1515+ or DS1815+

OS/Lightroom Catalog/Games to be stored on the main SSD. Only thing I'm really unsure on is the configuration of local storage and possible caching in lightroom etc. A part of me wants a PCIe SSD, would it make a significant enough difference?
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>>58713333
I've never heard of that being done or even possible, my best bet is to just continue with looking at the benchmarks, and drawing conclusions from there. I'm sure someone here can give more input on the matter. also, nice quads.
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>>58713360
8gb rx480
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>>58712962
>1080p/144hz

1070 plus an i7 overclocked out the ass to keep a constant 144fps

that shit is a meme

you're better off going 1440p/60hz
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>>58713624
>1070 plus an i7 overclocked out the ass to keep a constant 144fps
>that shit is a meme
>you're better off going 1440p/60hz

Not the person you replied to but is a 1080p 144hz monitor not worth the price at all if you cant keep a constant 144 fps? Does the higher hz have any benefit at all if there is not a constant 144 fps?
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how are silverstone power supplies?
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>>58713809
Mediocore at best. Stick to EVGA G/P, Seasonic, Super Flower, XFX XT, and higher end Be Quiets and Enermaxes.
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>>58713874
how about corsair?
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>>58713954
Only high end stuff, the rest is exploding chinkshit.
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>>58713874

>tfw these are impossible to find in australia
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>>58713874
>>58714001

how is this model
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>>58714221
Probably overpriced but quality wise it's good.
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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/W7HP9W

trying again

need help picking a Z720 mobo for 7600k, or a Z710 with BIOS flashback
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>>58714386

>H7

Good fucking luck. They've been pushing back the date for months.
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if i have no other choice but to go kabylake, what are the odds i'll be able to install W7
i cannot tolerate 10. i've used it at work and it's fucking abysmal
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>>58713714
I can get 144fps on my 1070 and i5, even at 1440p in some games or at some settings
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KRc9yf

I was gifted the RAM, but is there a way i can change the color? I'd prefer just flat black.
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>>58715200
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wWk2BP

Forgot to update that I already have the hard drive too.
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does it really matter that much whether i get a MB with a 4pin cpu power rather than an 8pin?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qbXcRG

The pc is completed, I just wanted to know how to overclock safely.
Where in the bios do I go?
About how many volts and how far can I go
Example: 4.0ghz and bolts? 1.42v?
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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/rurikki/saved/jNrRBm
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>>58715341
If you go TO MSIs website, you can find their manual for tbat motherboard and it'll give you all of that info
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>>58709037

I'm glad we got rid of the kaby lake shilling pcbg pcpartpicker lisr
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how well does a pentium G4560 perform with no overclocking? i dont want to cheap out on the processor only to find i need to spend more on a MB that supports OCing
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>>58715418
Depends on what you want to do
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>>58709037
Can someone tell me the exact difference between these two motherboards? The only difference I can find is on the cheaper one a couple of the fan headers are labeled "water cooling/ fan headers" Does it make a difference? Is the UD3 just $10 more for the plastic cover? If so I'm getting the cheaper one.

Z270X-UD3
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128971

and

Z270XP-SLI
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813128972
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>>58715424
i want to jack off all day and play CSS inbetween
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>everyone having a shit fit about 7th gen intel and zen not working on W7
>only because microsoft said they wouldnt update anything to cope with the new processors
correct me if i'm wrong but since when has anyone ever had to run windows update because their processor didnt work? i'm pretty sure this kind of stuff literally cant happen
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>>58715418
bretty gud for the price point it's sold at

(7350k buyers literally hanging themselves)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnCT1C_H3qY
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>>58715469
It looks like you're paying for the shrouds
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My mother bought this thing years ago but apparently has no use for it now. Being half computer illiterate I need some help in deciding what to do with it. If I want to do anything with games I obviously need a new graphics card, and if I want to power and house it I'll likely need a new power supply and case since this thing is pretty small. The CPU seems much better than my current PC's i7 920, but I don't know by how much.

What kind of video card could I get away with without bottlenecking? I don't know much about ram, is what is in there okay? I know 12 is more than enough for now, I just don't know the specifics of speeds and ddr3 vs 4, etc. Is the motherboard sufficient for rebranding this thing into a gaming PC? Anything else I may be overlooking?
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>>58715469
If you look at the manuals you can see the fan headers are just arranged different (and there are more on the cheaper board actually)
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>>58715643
So why would Gigabyte make two boards that are so similiar?
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>>58715653
Well there is a difference in the PCIe setup too...but you'll only give the slightest of shits if you're planning on using SLI
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>>58715687
I'm going to get 1 1070 card to start, possibly upgrade later. It looks like the cheaper one still has the better set up since according to what it says the x8 doesn't share bandwidth, meaning the x16 slot will always run at x16, right?
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>>58715730
*possibly a second one
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>>58711806

How does AMD compete!? The 9590 only needs 1.5v on twice the core count for 5ghz.
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So I built my puter a while ago, but the bitfenix neos case has this retarded light on the headphone and microphone jack, and the headphone one just blinks intermittently, is there a reason for it? My sound is fine through there, so I just taped over both leds with black tape, so I guess that fixes the problem
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>>58713714
1440p is going to look a lot better than 1080p.
Not as drastic as 720p to 1080p, but you'll notice.

120fps and 144fps look pretty similar. Definitely not as big of a difference as 30fps to 60fps or 60fps to 120fps

If you can manage 1440p at 120fps, you're going to get a better experience than 85% of people, but 1440p at 60fps is also pretty great.
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>>58715200
>>58715211

>I'd prefer just flat black.
The PCBs are black, so if you removed the heat spreader, it would be black but I wouldn't recommend it.
If you absolutely must get autismo over it, just cut a matte black sticker to fit over the spreader.
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>>58716392

It's not fucking autism, it's an aesthetics preference. But after looking at some other builds, I don't think it would be necessary.
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>>58711407
>>58710877
>i3 and a RX480,
That's retarded. You're gonna need cores very soon. i3 is almost obsolete.
You want an i5 min. Or an 8320. Not sure about the 6600. Look hows that compares to an i3 in full performance. Not core by core.
Or wait a little bit for Ryzen.
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>>58713333
Yes, it's called Virtual Super Resolution or Digital Super Resolution (AMD vs NVIDIA)
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>>58716660
Shut the fuck up, idiot. i3 + RX480 is a good pair (although now the G4560 has taken the budget gaming crown).

No one in his right mind would consider an FX 8320 right now.
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Tell me what I can change without sacrificing too much performance.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wm3Lf8
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>>58716809
Fucking tard. There's games that need more than an i3. Stop being a cocksucker.
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>>58716824
First of all, ditch the NEX power supply and get a G2.
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>>58716824
Everything looks fine, if you want to save a little more money, go with the cheapest 3000Mhz ram there is at whatever place you're ordering, get an air cpu cooler, get a smaller hdd and ssd and get a supernova 550w. You could also go with a cheaper z270 mobo and 1070 gpu.

I don't think it's worth the 100$ to 300$ savings if you're happy with what you picked
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>>58716832
Boom done. But can you explain why?
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>>58716913
I want to keep the cooler cause I want to overclock. I'd like to keep the storage the same and I don't want to go down on wattage in case I upgrade and go SLI and shit. I'd go cheaper on the mobo and gpu.
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>>58715624

Anyone got any advice?

I figure a 1070 won't be bottlenecked too much if at all by the i7 3770. The 460 W power supply that's already there will apparently already suffice, and a 1070 would fit inside the provided case, but I'm still looking to get a new one to help airflow a bit since it seems like it'd be cramped for both a hot processor and video card. My biggest question is how reliable the motherboard is going to be.
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>>58716919
Well recommending a part that are almost useless in this day and age is just wrong. That's why I called you a cocksucker, because you're either a marketer or have fallen for it.
People keep saying that multi threading is a meme, but it's becoming more and more relevant. You can only shove so much data through two cores. Realistically an i3 is no more than a processor for browsing bloated social media these days. It's time to stop with i3's espcially when pairing it with a higher end card, that's meant for large scale rendering. Moar cores or go home.
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>>58716974
Oh shit dude. I actually didn't even mean to quote you that was meant for someone else. Lol I'm not the guy you were talking to.
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>>58716974
Look up benchmarks, most games don't use more than 2 cores with hyperthreading
We tried saying this is 2016 with new APIs and cores matter, and they still didn't use more than 2 cores with hyperthreading
Most games aren't the calculative, easily-predicted board games that multicores excel at, speed and 2 cores with HT is all you need right now for the vast majority of new releases
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>>58716995
Jesus. Stop thinking here and now. With 4+ cores you can keep your PC for longer (gaming). A good example are things like Arma. They keep expanding.
Sure 2cores are fine for board games. But why pair an RX480 if that's all you want.
Or even have things running in the background while you're gaming, there's so much more that can be done when you have the headroom to do so. Two cores is just throttling yourself, so in near future you'll be forced to upgrade again.
>>58716992
No worries. Least you see the clear reality's of the points I'm making, unlike some faggot.
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how do i update a gigabyte bios without using windows?
>want to put a babylake cpu in an older MB
>need to update bios
>pc wont even output a signal to my screen unless i have a functioning cpu in
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>>58715624
>>58716954
The cpu is good enough, as far as the psu and motherboard goes, i'm no pro but i've heard before that the way dell components are made they're not meant to be reusable, as in the mobo won't fit in any commercially available case and no commercially available mobo will fit in a dell case. Again, i don't know how true this is but thats what i've been told years ago by a computer tech.

As for a graphics card, a 1070 would bottleneck no doubt, i wouldn't spend to much money on a gpu, not really knowledgeable enough to recommended something that would compliment the system with being too op. Maybe a rx 470?
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>>58717064
I'm saying extra cores are only relevant for board games like arma
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im gonna regret this arent i
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>>58717100
Ausbro here. You done goofed.
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>>58717100
>im gonna regret this arent i
Yes, why would you waste a dollar on parcel protection? What are you, fucking gay?
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>>58717141
auspost are fuckheads mate
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>>58715358 here

so hype I finally got my hands on an H7 cooler
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>>58717077

That's good to know, thanks. I guess I might as well add a motherboard and power supply to the list. I was hoping to reuse a lot of these parts but I guess just saving on the processor is still a big deal. Maybe I'll try fitting a gpu in the dell and see how it handles the heat. I don't have high expectations for it, though.
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>>58713874
I just want to let people know that although none of those brands had a failure/return rate of higher than 4% last year, memesonic had the highest failure rate of them all.

It's a meme.

EVGA had the lowest failure rate, oddly enough.
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>>58717230
>I guess I might as well add a motherboard and power supply to the list.
At this point you're better off saving you're money and building a new computer, motherboards with lga 1155 sockets (which the i7 3770 uses) aren't manufactured anymore i do believe, and they're getting scarce.
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how often do you clean your rigs?

once a month?
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>>58717259
whenever someone fucking touches it
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>>58717259
Once a year, use an air compressor, probably not the best thing to do however.
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http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=6126#kf
gud? cant find any reviews online
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>>58717230
So i did some quick research on what i said earlier, it depends on the models, you could maybe reuse the mobo from the dell and use it in a new case but it sounds like it could be more trouble then it's worth it.
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>>58716832
Not really. A few can't hit 60FPS but most people aren't playing Total War.

>>58717064
>Least you see the clear reality's of the points I'm making,
You are a literal fucking moron, as evidenced by "reality's"
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>>58717898
Enjoy tossing your i3's and mobo's in a year.
For want of $100 You could have kept it for almost five years. But no. you'd rather tight ass it now to pay more later.
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>>58717259

every fortnight I'll open it up, but I clean the area around it quite frequently
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Hello /pcbg/
I already got i5 6600 (non k one) and pair of 8 gig hyper x furry @2133.
What good motherboard for that kind of cpu I can buy with ~130 USD?
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So the K seires of CPUs are for heavy overclocking right? If I'm just a mild overclocker, can I stick with a base 7700?
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What kind of case is that?
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>>58717239
Source = your ass?
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>>58717239
>emesonic had the highest failure rate of them all

what?
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>>58718212
130 is way too much, get a cheap B150 mobo.

>>58718273
Do more research, your question is stupid.

>>58718528
A black one. :^)
Looks like ATX midi.
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>>58718650
>Do more research, your question is stupid.

guess I should goto /sqt/

didn't know a new one was up already

my apologies
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>>58718712
Either that or read the links of OP or Google it in 30 seconds.
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>>58718273

Ks are the only ones that are able to overclock. Based do not at all.

>>58718910

don't be a dick
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Do you guys really have to spend $1600 just to play games on 1440p/144Hz?

How can you justify such cost on a manchild activity?
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>>58719331
>How can you justify such cost on a manchild activity?
By having enough money for it, just as you justify any other type of expensive recreational activity.
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>>58719350
So basically you all have poor impulse control and go through crippling waves of buyer's remourse but you can't stop because you think your next PC will finally make you happy?
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>>58719462
You realise some people just have the money and can buy all the nice things they want?

>buyers remorse
Nice projection.

Why is it so hard for some poorfags to understand there are others who have money and like to spend it?
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>>58719485
But you spent $1600 and you still don't have a gf?
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>>58718650
>130 is way too much, get a cheap B150 mobo.
I'd like to, but there's no cheap ATX mainboard with PCi slots and heatsink covered VRM.
So what is the best motherboard I can get for 130?
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>>58719498
>and you still don't have a gf?
Nice projection again. Why are you so jealous of other peoples lifes, are you really such a sour loser?
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>>58719331

because 6700k/7700k + GTX 1080 + 16Gb DDR4 combo gives you a known good amount of computing power for your money.
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Vegaaaaaaaaa wheeeeeeeeeennnnnnn
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r8 my $800 build for my first gaymen desktop guys. did I do well?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mT6GVY
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>>58719673
Corsair is a mediocre case manufacturer that has failed to keep up with the quality that Phanteks and Fractal Design offers while failing to provide quality at their own undoing. for FD, Consider the Arc Mini R2, Define C and or Define R5, for Phanteks, consider the Enthoo Pro M or Eclipse P400S.
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Lads, I need help.

Britbong here and a friend of mine is intent on buying all his parts from Amazon. This is his build so far but he needs a new Motherboard and PSU at around the same pricepoint from Amazon. The Motherboard is out of stock and I can't seem to find a decent one around the same price. Anyone have any suggestions?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zcJhGf
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zjY33F
Improvements? Think I need a new PSU if I upgrade to RX480 or GTX 1060/70?
Also the PSU, Hard Drive are pretty old.
Budget ~400-600€ and I have 2 screens, one is 768p and the other 1080p
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>>58720222
Asus H110M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard, it's nothing fancy but that's what you get for being a cheap piece of shit.
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I have this here PSU (Coolermaster GX650) and while it hasn't given me any problems for these 5 or so years, it was always a fucking turbine when it's on load. What is a relatively silent PSU I can replace it with?
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>>58720649
how's the rest of your system? calculate your wattage and get a PSU that runs on 70-80% load with your other components.
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>>58720532
your PSU is fine, but for overclocking, you might want to put another 150 watts on there and go 80+ gold

http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

if you want to be stubborn, you can run the numbers through there
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>>58720665
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>>58719331
Why not?
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>>58719485
try to forget your poorness and think of it from the perspective of a human who owns two things; money, and free time. Perhaps some enjoyment in life too.

This kind of a human is free to spend their money, and no, there won't be buyers remorse because they have money after spending it. And free time. It's all about the perspective into life.
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y'all wanna see a dead body?

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/rurikki/saved/jNrRBm
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>I spend $1600 on a PC to prove I'm not poor
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Finally upgrading CPU after almost 6 years. It's just for general use/future proofing, not much gaymen. Any thoughts/recommendations? I already have the i7 and the 1060.

I honestly am not sure whether I'm picking an ok mobo, it's either this or the ASUS Z170 Pro, unless there's a better one in the same price range that I'm missing out on.

Also it's my first AIO cooler, is it actually worth buying these or should I stick with a Noctua or be quiet air cooler? (some OC but I never really push it too far)
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Recommend me an ATX case that's fairly elegant-looking, white or light metallic in color and not Fractal Design.
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The purpose of this PC build is to play video games, and compile code faster than a race between lava and toffee

Budget is £600 - £1100, country is England, and I've no idea if this is a good build or not

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NfkVbj

Not looking for overclocking or anything like that, but whatever works. I've got a spare DVD drive and floppy drive, keyboard, etc. and a bit of a questionable monitor but it should do the trick.

Any suggestions besides off myself?
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>>58721579
I have the Silverstone PS11B-Q which is pretty neat, but if you can get the other version it also has airflow
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>>58722161

For the love of god don't buy a 770.
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>>58718528
It's probably a cooler master cm690 ii windowed, have the same case without the window
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>>58722486
What would you recommend instead?
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>>58722161
That build is absolutely stupid... What on earth did you smoke?
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>>58722573

At £300 you can buy some serious hardware that murders a 770. The 770 loses to its AMD equivalent BADLY right now (the 7070/280x) and there is no way thats a £300 card.

The Fury cards are floating around the £300 mark while stocks last (they are being phased out). The 6gb 1060 and 8gb 480 cards are also in this price bracket (I prefer the 480 myself). Other options include sourcing a hawaii based card (290/390/290x/390x) which will sit around this price point - if not less since the 480 basically invalidates hawaii.
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>>58722161
If you want to overclock get a k series processor like a 6600k, you'll need a better cpu cooler then the stock one, also you don't need 750w, get a 550w psu, if you want to cheap out on the gpu get a rx 470 or gtx 1060.

As for an internal floppy drive, they require a special socket that most modern mobos don't have, this comes from a guy that bought a used floppy dirve and realized his 5 year old mobo didn't have the connection required.
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>>58722161
>>58722704
Sorry i misread, you don't want to overclock, then you don't need a z170 mobo, go with whatever cheapest mobo there is with all the features you need then.
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i upgraded from a phenom ii x4 970 to a e3 1231v3 (not the i5 6500 so i could use my ddr3 ram) so that i could do muh video editing / rendering and that sorta stuff

did i do good
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What do you do about LEDs that you can't turn off?

There's an LED on my motherboard that's BRIGHT red, which is supposed to indicate "hey bro, there's power running through this computer". I'm wondering if I should just leave that one on or go full-blow gaymer and turn on the dumb audio separation LEDs too.
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>>58723271
sharpie
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>inb4 heat rises

isn't this the best way to set up fans? positive pressure, plus you're actually evacuating the heat from the gpu and CPU instead of -retardedly- allowing the GPU fan to pull heat through the fins, then pulling it back up with the top case fans
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>>58723447
As far as I know, there's no way to get a GPU to pull air through the fins, and you're better off doing a wind tunnel thing with no top fans. The thing with top fans too is that all the dust that would have landed on top of your computer is now inside your case.
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>>58723508

so the GPU fans blow upwards?
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>>58723555
Yeah.
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>>58723555

Look at this picture and then look closer. Oversized it maybe but this is how 99% of gpu coolers work (lol coaxial fans).
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>>58723604

in that case, where does the air escape?

is it just through the small vents?
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>>58723604
When will GPU manufacturers make use of those unused expansion card slots and make a fucchueg cooler?
>>58723631
The air comes out the sides.
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>>58723649
Probably because it's a smaller niche market and most people don't want fuckhuge GPUs
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>>58713360
Nothing?
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What's the main benefit of an isolated water CPU cooler? Just the saving of space by attaching it to the case's top or back exhaust?
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>>58723687
Aesthetics
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>>58709333
I assembled the guts of my system on the outside of the mobo's electrostatic bag prior to putting it into the case because I had no other work surface, and it had no issues. Either I was lucky or the answer is no. I would kind of like a definitive answer myself now.

Pic related, btw.
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>>58723753
Depends on if the bag is electrically conductive on the outside. There should be no problem if there's zero power in the board but if the bag's conductive and the board's hot, there could be a short. I always put the board on the box itself, not the bag.
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[rant]

>Look trough Z270 mobos
>Gigabyte (((AORUS)))
>LEDs everywhere, worse VRM than Z170 boards, more LEDs, basically HD series for stupid money.
>Only HD series is non cancer
>ASUS
>PCB designed by a 13 year old, -P and -K mobos are the same shit as always
>LEDs almost everywhere, Z270-A is the only non-retarded mobo
>MSI
>(((GAMING))) LED cancer across the board paired with chink VRM
>Same as Gigabyte, only standard Z270 mobos aren't cancerous
>ASRock
>PCB design by a 12 year old autistic kid
>Muh KILLER FATAL1TY professional hardware
>Biostar
>
Anyone else sick and tired of this? Not saying it's the companies fault, they only do what companies do, make profit off of retards.
Imho problem is the cancerous gaming community and media in general and the parents who are to busy larping their cuck phantasies than educating their children.

[/rant]

Sorry for the autistic outbreak, but this infuriates me more than it should.
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>>58723649

>When will GPU manufacturers make use of those unused expansion card slots and make a fucchueg cooler?

Plenty of aftermarket coolers exist that are xbox hueg. The one in the pic (raijintek morpheus) is rated for something silly like 400w TDP with your typical 120mm fan. Since I do infact own a morpheus bolted to a 290x for laughs once I strapped two 3900rpm delta fans to it (naturally powered off my psu as they are 3 amp fans!) and let them runn full speed while I overclocked the 290x to the fucking limit.

It was amusing pushing nearly 1250mhz core on air but even in a define R4 the fans could be heard in the next room through a solid brick wall and a closed door. They were that loud. Totally worth the experiment as I slammed 1.4v through the chip and the fans kept it all below 80c despite guzzling at least 375w.
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>>58723818

I just hope the AM4 boards don't suffer from this cancer - most of the AM3+ range is quite understated asthetically.
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>>58723873
Most AM4 boards revealed at CES 2017 already suffer the same fate with the same cancerous gayming marketing and LEDs + PCB """artwork""" everywhere.
I like to play games myself but this is just pure cancer. I want good VRM, features and general quality, no a board that glows to me masturbating in the dark, wtf.
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>>58723753

You were lucky. The answer is "no."

Definitively.

Better off using a sheet of clean, unpainted cardboard.

The exterior of the anti-static bags can easily build up a charge ... they are designed to protect what's inside of them from dust/debris & static ... the outside is meant to absorb the charge & discharge it away from it's contents.

Possibly if one were to attach a grounding strap to such a bag and ground it properly it might be better than assembling a system on shag carpet during winter. Grounding straps are a Thing, and they are Real, and they Work. They are not a meme.

Anyway. Static is often not a problem in about 90% of situations, unless you're in an unusual environment (SEE: shag carpet above). But, that remaining 10% will suck hard if it bites you with your hands in the middle of $1000 worth of tech while wrestling a cooling block or RAM into place.

And, to be clear, I've definitely done stupid, risky shit myself and just counted on being careful plus gambling on a lucky day. I just try not to do that too often. Got three or four grounding straps tucked about the house so one is always at hand.
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>>58717977
>Enjoy tossing your i3's and mobo's in a year.
Who the fuck would toss the mobo or the CPU? The CPU can be sold for most of its value, and the mobo has a socket (LGA1151) with a still unreleased CPU line coming out. Plenty of options for upgrades.

Anyway the 2c / 4t Intel CPUs will be decent until the PS5 comes out
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>>58723927

> I want good VRM

AM4 crosshair formula Z when!? I want (nay, need) such a board as i've got an air cooler capable of taming a 9590 and 8c/16t zen is calling me dearly.
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>>58719331
But not jusitidyig my actions to others
I also own a plushie that once sold for $6000
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>>58723447
GPU don't blow, they suck
Also >heat rises, turn around the top fans
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>>58723753
If it's metal just put your feet on the case siding.
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>>58709037
Is that dumb Anime character putting ram on a motherboard that's sitting on top of an anti static bag? Fucking retard
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>>58723271
Electrical tape
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FUCK YOU MANLETS
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first time making a pc, is this shit or good?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jtg2BP
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>>58724660
Why that motherboard and not the 6th gen equivalent for your 6th gen processor? You just want fast ram or what
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>>58724660
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yXkFHN
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>>58724700
So I should aim to get a cheaper motherboard?
how about this? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3Zwqqs/msi-motherboard-h110mprod
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>>58723818
Pretty sure that represents a fair amount of people. LEDs sell more than clean aesthetics though and the people who hate LEDs like me probably have a windowless case anyway.
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>>58713360
Somewhat updated, any suggestions?
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>>58725070
>170mm CPU cooler clearance
>110mm high CPU cooler
Why though? You gotta take advantage of that clearance.
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>>58724991

>want dark base 900 pro
>fucking window
>woe is me, sticks with existing god tier R4
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>>58725070

>£42 for a cooler on a locked sub 100w cpu

NYET COMRADE.
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What monitor do you guys recommend between 23"-25"?
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>>58712026
>Not taking drugs
faggot
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Had this G4400 in my Z170X-UD3 for too long.
Finally picking up a 6600K and Hyper 212 Evo tomorrow afternoon and gonna OC that badboy to 4.5. Anything I should know? Anyone else OC a 6600K on this setup?
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>>58725133
I was just about to get an Enthoo Evolv ATX and put a vinyl wrap over the window until I decided to go SFF instead. Phanteks wouldn't sell me a windowless side panel when I asked, and there's clearly a demand since there's a thread on their forum asking for one.
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>>58725158
>£42 for a cooler on a locked sub 100w cpu
Fair point, I'll effectively only be paying £25 for it in the long run so the difference between that and another is negligible.
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>>58725070
>>58725109
>>58725158
Removed the case as I'll be getting my mates Define Mini, so that's knocked a few £ off.

Out of interest, has anyone had much experience with a decent NVMe SSD compared to a regular SATA SSD? Curious as I'm debating between the MX300/850Pro/960Evo/960Pro.

>Stored on SSD:
>OS
>Lightroom
>Lightroom SQLite catalog
>Lightroom Cache (25Gb - 100Gb)
>muh games (they don't matter though)
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I don't think I'm ever going to let go of my Cooler Master HAF 912
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Which brand of the rx 480 should I get? In general I have no idea about what's different from card to card.
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>>58725795
Pretty much any aftermarket card with a 3yr is fine

>>58725608
Eh, have to pull the whole goddamned mobo out to change the CPU or cooler, no?

>>58725203
Any $50 used 1080p 60Hz. No use in spending more quite yet. 27" 1440p 100Hz is the next upgrade

>>58725070
Kinda sucks, get a Z270 mobo and 3000MHz RAM. You can use Enhanced Turbo by selecting XMP in BIOS.

But for gaming you should get an i5 7500 and a Z270. Almost no benefit in buying an i7, unless you are trying to avoid the upgrade hassle for as long as possible.

>>58724660
Consider Kaby Lake
240GB SSD
Can drop cooler and use stock

>>58715415
You're a fucking moron, quit posting. Kaby Lake is better for the same price as Skylake, retard.
>>
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cLgvNN

Thoughts on this?
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>>58725966
This could potentially kill you if you build it.
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>>58725966
Monitor sucks
1060 is a little weak for 1440p going forward
Consider Kaby Lake
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Missing an extra 200€:
>Dell power brick to go with the picoPSU
>Zotac GTX 1050 Ti OC Edition

Should I pull the trigger or is there any chance prices will drop after Ryzen (maybe mobo)? Also, the processor might be overkill and I was also looking at a i3-7100T which would PROBABLY be good enough, but I really wanted to make this as future-proof as possible while maintaining that sweet high power-efficiency.

Thoughts?
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>>58726199
I doubt mobo price will drop
i7 7700T may drop, doubtful. i7 8700T will probably be cheap
Could go for the i3 in hope of a later, cheap i7
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>>58726199
>7700T
>366€
Mucho autismo mi amigo.
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>>58725966
weren't you here yesterday or maybe the day before?
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>>58726239
>i7 8700T will probably be cheap
well, when it launched, the 6700T cost the same as the 7700T does now and has gone down in price some 20€ at most, which leads me to believe the 8700T will be similarly priced. It's not a big market, unfortunately, so the prices tend to stay in that range I think
unless you're saying that with the hopes AMD releases a good 35W competitor, which I doubt

also will Cannon Lake even be compatible with the current sockets?

>>58726241
yeah it's making me cringe looking at the price
I think I'll go for the i3 for 250€ less, it can't be that bad and I don't really think I need the i7
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>>58726416
>I'll go for the i3 for 250€ less
Only worthwile i3 is the 6100, the 7350K is trash and even the 6100 is questionable after the release of the G4560.
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>>58726611
I'm looking for 35W only, so G4560 is out of the question, but I'll probably go for the i3-7100T
same price as the skylake version and slightly better
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>>58726649
>I'm looking for 35W only
For what purpose? You're crippling yourself with this shit..
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>>58715624

This guy here again. I'm about to order an RX 480 to replace that gtx 620, but I'm concerned about the PSU. Is the default dell 460 watt power supply going to be enough?
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>>58726685
>default dell 460 watt power supply
>default random chink shit PSU
I suggest you buy a fire extinguisher along with your GPU.
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>>58726683
power efficiency and size are important to me
That picoPSU wouldn't be able to handle a 35+W processor
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>>58726738
Then get a different PSU, there are some good SFF 80+ Gold PSUs out there.
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>>58709037
What up /g/ooks, I'm going for a 1440p/144Hz gaming build that's gonna be fucking sick. I'm going with AMD because Intel is made up of a bunch of fucking jews that just want to steal my money because I'm German (Live in USA though). I will not stand for it, and neither should you. So anyway, how long will this build last me?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c6VJTH
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>>58723447
You don't want more intake than exhaust.
The air stays in the case longer and has more time to heat up.

Ideally you want 1.5-2:1 exhaust to intake ratio.
In a fan setup like yours, flip the top fans to exhaust.
As another anon mentioned, the GPUs don't blow, they'll suck air from the bottom of the case upward, and out of the case with top exhaust.

Another note, you case is going to be loud as fuck with all of those fans.
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>>58726757
like I said, size is important to me and that's why I specifically chose a picoPSU instead of a regular sff PSU which wouldn't even fit in my case
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>>58726760
>2017
>Vishera
Enjoy your obsolete technology.

>>58726805
If that's your choice you'll have to live with a crippled T CPU and shit prices, although i fail to see the reasoning behind this.
Do you want an AIO PC? Imho you should buy a prebuilt Lenovo or Dell AIO, those are rather expensive but generally good, my college has some Dell AIOs.
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>>58726361
Yes. I've been trying to learn as much as I need to know before buying parts. I'm trying not to be an ignorant consumer if possible.
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>>58726009
>This could potentially kill you if you build it.
Can you elaborate?
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>>58726865
Enjoy Intel fucking your asshole with your money
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>>58726173
Any better alternatives you recommend for the monitor and gpu? I am open to suggestions.
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>>58726896
Topkek. Pajeet, calm your poo or shit's going to hit the fan.
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>>58726760
Get this instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MM7zCy
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>>58726760
it's going to last you 10 minutes, you have no upgrade path, even with your "muh amd, fuk duh jewz" mentality, am4 and vega are right around the corner #wait. plus, unless you're playing cs:go or WoW at 1440p, you're not going to pull those kinds of framerates on AAA games.

>>58726879
ok, you might want to go with the non windowed version of that case, because with these parts, it's going to look horrible.
>>
Is the itx x99 mobo that asrock makes any good?
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>>58726865
>crippled T CPU
The only difference between the T and non-T version is the lower clock speeds which don't matter that much (the 7100T is still clocked at 3.4GHz) and the most demanding tasks I'll be throwing at it are playing FIFA and Street Fighter and playing with photoshop. It really isn't as crippled as you think

>shit prices
At least where I'm from it costs about the same as the regular non-T version and I'll be able to save a few euros on power at the end of the year. Same thing with the i7-7700T I was talking about earlier, it's even slightly cheaper than the 7700K.

What I'm aiming for is a tiny all-purpose PC I can take with me on my backpack because I travel a lot between places and always have access to monitors or TVs. Right now I own a NUC which I love but I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of space in order to get a dedicated GPU I can play some casual games with
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>>58726760
I've been using an 8350 for around 4 years now. Today, it's not really anything special. Either wait for the new chips or go with a 9590 and prepare to upgrade in 18 months.

Terabyte SSD? No. Not yet. Stick with a 240GB for your OS and a few games/programs you want to reliably access quickly.
For everything else, spend the money on a 2TB 7200RPM drive. It's fast enough for games and it's good, cheap storage.

Most other things are you just paying for aesthetics, which is a common first-build mistake.

Try this.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hpvTtJ
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>>58727040
The real question is why would you want one?
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>>58726173
Specifically do you recommend a 1070 for 1440p? And which 1070 would be ideal?
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>>58726734

fugg I'm already nervous as shit that this is going to be a big hassle/waste of money
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>>58726416
>unless you're saying that with the hopes AMD releases a good 35W competitor, which I doubt
I was. In general, CPU prices will fall somewhat. Exactly how much remains to be seen

>>58726760
It's fucking shit. Do not buy the AM3+ platform, unless you get it used with CPU+mobo+RAM

Crossfire and SLI suck. Don't even try. Most of the time there are no profiles on launch.

Literally retarded build

>>58726921
>>58727189
You're looking for a 1440p HDR >100Hz Gsync/Freesync monitor.
Right now the only good 1440p gfx card is the GTX 1070
If that's out of your price range, just buy a cheap 1080p monitor and the GTX1060 and do 1440p next time around

>>58727070
>9590
Fuck no. A housefire with shitty performance
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>>58727308
>Right now the only good 1440p gfx card is the GTX 1070
Any preference between Gigabyte and EVGA 1070s?
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>>58727450
Gigabyte tends to have better cooling, and EVGA is shitting the bed with build quality lately.
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>>58727464
Alright thank you.
>>
Hey chavs posting from Britbongistan.

My dad who is living alone is very tech illiterate but I've managed to get him into video games. For the last 10 years we've been playing many games from WoW to coop crap together as a way to keep our bound while fighting his loneliness. However his old laptop starts to show its age and it's us when it comes to the games we can play. I wanted to help him out and build a 600 quid budget pc in a mini itx case (especially I keep hearing him criticizing full atx towers for taking too much space).

I came up with something like this: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/t2dsjc

Right now I'm not happy with few things:

- PSU (I simply don't know about Corsair but it's the cheapest semi-modular option which would help me with cable management in such confined space)

- GPU (3 GB is truly a meme - I was thinking about 480 RX but those cards are very hot and noisy from what I heard so if somebody knows what's the best 4GB 480 let me know - 470 seems to be too expensive in UK to justify weaker performance)

- DDRam, although those cheap H110 mobos support X.M.P. I've read about some limitations even with XMP enabled that will bring the clocks to 2133 mhz anyway. Anyone actually got any experience with these?

Thank you in advance, please help me out.
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>>58727591
I ate few words in there, please forgive me, it's 1 AM and I'm knackered.
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>>58727464
>EVGA is shitting the bed with build quality lately
Lol what? They fucked up by not properly cooling the VRM, but other than that i never heard or read anything negative. Care to elaborate?
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>>58727450
It sounds like almost every 1070 is overclocking the same regardless of better cooling, I'd get the cheaper one (I have a Gigabyte Windforce OC 1070 at 2.15GHz)
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>>58727591
Consider a Kaby Lake Pentium and the RX470.
If you're using an H mobo, you're limited to 2133 for Skylake and 2400 for Kaby Lake
Get a 240GB SSD
You don't need a cooler
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RVLKkT

Will it work? any suggestions?
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>>58727704
It's fine, the ADATA SSD might be better value right now.
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>>58727591
That build is shit. You should also consider G4560 + B250 (no ITX!) or BIOS updated H110 (ITX) for such a budget build.
For PSU, XFX XT is usually cheap in bongland, for GPU the Zotac and EVGA 1060 6G mini cards are good and should fit into a G4560 600 GBP build.
Concerning RAM, get the cheapest 2x4 or 2x8 kit of the speed of choice. For H110 2133 and B250 2400, shouldn't cost more than 55 bucks.
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>>58727704
Looks good, i'd change the PSU to EVGA 500 B or SeaSonic and get the $19.99 Cryorig M9i, the stock cooler is dogshit. Also maybe add a second front fan for 2 intake 1 exhaust setup.
>>
>>58727450
Go with Asus my dude
>>
>>58728056
I was comparing only the Gigabyte and EVGA 1070s and leaning towards the Gigabyte 1070 8GB Windforce OC but I'm am curious about the benefit of the Asus over the other cards?
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>>58725905
>Kaby Lake is better

oh yeah I love restrictions
>>
>>58728215
The only thing restricted is your mental capacity
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>>58728215
Ignore that retard, he's a paid Intel shill. Kelcin Lake is trash, the only good 7th gen CPU is the G4560.
>>
>>58728333

okay shill
>>
>>58728366
>he's a paid Intel shill

I know, there have been a fuckload of them since the kaby dropped.
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>>58728419
True, Intel should have invested it into better TIM for K Kaby's instead into autistic shills to controll the damage. They could have prevented this.
>>
>>58725905
>Kaby Lake is better for the same price as Skylake

More expensive, barely any noticeable improvements, forced to use Win 10. It's trash, and you're a faggot.
>>
Ok, think I finally settled on my first PC build. How does this look? Anything that I could do to make this more cost-effective?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pn86yf
>>
Where can I find a copy of Windows 7 for sale for cheap? everywhere is still selling it at 100+. Is that normal? Should I just get 10 when I build my new pc?
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>>58728988
Just get 10
Life is ez
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>>58728988
>paying for windows
>>
>>58728755
>More expensive
No

>barely any noticeable improvements
No

>forced to use Win 10
Yeah, if you're retarded. Learn GNU/Linux fagtron. If you really wanted to figure it out, you avoid Win10 in multiple ways, even without running GNU/Linux

>>58728366
>>58728385
>>58728419
>>58728450
>shil
Thanks to you the word is meaningless. Here is your (you); now shut the fuck up.

>>58728844
It's fine; consider Kaby Lake.

>>58728988
I don't pay for Windoze
>>
>>58729108
>>58729155
So there are no downsides to pirating it?
>>
>>58729179
You're illegally joining the botnet.
>>
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DMYCgL
Is this overkill? I want to play skyrim in 60 or more fps with high graphic mods, and play For Honor in the highest settings
the resolution will be 144 hz 1080p
but everything else i want 250-300 fps
>>
>>58729179
No, why would there be?
>>
>>58729257
Do you plan on overclocking at all?
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>>58729257
no the 1070 cannot pull 144 fps at 1080p on modern AAA games, maybe if for honor does not run like ass, maybe your wish will come true.
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>>58729322
I do, but i have no experience in it
Do you recommend any changes or parts that allow me to overclock without fucking myself over?
>>58729337
Would the 1080 do it then?
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>>58729355
Do you have some kind of a budget?
You're probably not getting 144Hz at 1080p with $1300.
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>>58729394
For the pc itself, I would like to keep it under 1500 leaf bucks
or at least get good parts off the bat then upgrade along the way
I already have a monitor so, that concern was going to take place after getting the pc
I make around 700/800 a paycheck per 2 weeks, with 450 in bills and rent in total once a month
>>
>>58729394
>>58729431
If I add a moniter in, for example the (Acer GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor)
The price would add up to a total of 1497.83$
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I have a budget of $1000 USD

I came up with attached; thoughts?
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>>58729355
no, 144hz is a refresh rate for the low demanding games, if you had two Titan XP's, lowered a few settings, then you could pull 1440p and 144hz. framerate and resolution/pretty graphics is difficult, you can have either one or the other, but for modern AAA games, to have both, you really got to break out your wallet.
>>
Is this a good build for light gayming ? Live in Australia so its gonna be closer to 650$ here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj2o5xaJJoI
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>>58729487
Ahh, i see
Well, I don't mind sacrificing eye candy for smooth fps
I still play quake 3 cpma, and cod4 nowadays
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>>58729431
>under 1500 leaf bucks
Canadian?

That's gonna be tough.
>>
>>58729539
Yeah, I might go talk to a guy at a computer place store and get his input on alternatives
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>>58729300
I dont know, I was just wondering desu
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>>58729467
>am3+
what?
>16gb ddr3
stop
>FX-8320
NO

go Intel or wait for Ryzen, and get a better case, Corsair is mediocre.
>>
>>58729636

Wyn Ryzen?
>>
Is there really any point in buying a 240mm AIO cooler over like a 120mm? Does the performance increase warrant double the price?

Planning on overclocking a 6700K
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>>58729257
You can get away with the 1060 6GB in For Honor. My 470 ran it at locked 60FPS on the extreme preset except when rain or lots of fire was onscreen. Even then, it only dipped to the 50s. If you go to a lower preset I'm sure you could get a huge FPS increase, considering the difference huge quality difference between Low and Extreme.

Not sure about modded Skyrim, but probably the 1060 as well, unless you're modding the Special Edition. That runs like ass considering what it looks like, so I'm sure modding it makes performance tank.

1070 is fine but it is expensive.

>>58729467
Fuck. no.

Do not buy AM3+ unless you're getting a used combo. In gaming a G4560 has similar performance, and you actually have an upgrade path.

If you really want AMD you have to wait for Ryzen

>>58729500
Yeah, not going to both watching that. Post the PCPartpicker
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>>58729763
>>58729763
>>58729763
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>>58729712
you can just go into the description m8 for the video\

AMD Athlon X4 860K
XFX Radeon R7 360
Gigabyte A68H
Rosewill R363
8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport
120GB ADATA SP550
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>>58724182
i3's are around $30 used(if they're selling at all). Fast forward a year do you really think you're going to be able to get anywhere near that?
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>>58729155
>More expensive
>No

It's $20 more where I'm from. Heats up a lot more too.
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