/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Time to remove all commies from the thread
>>57255969
hey you, get the f*ck out of here!!!

how to install Arch Linux (the easy way)

REMINDER: This is a friendly thread.

everyone here is my friend.

stallman is not a philosophically pure person. he follows his ideals when convenient, and ignores them or slightly alters them when the conflict isn't worth it.

stallman is an egoist in denial, afraid of admitting that he just wants some fucking source code instead of a world where he has to rely on other people because he knows he wouldn't get it that way.

his system has some practical merits but his attempts at creating moral justifications are completely pathetic and nonsensical. how low do you have to be to have to make up bullshit "oughts" when you can just say "it would be fucking better"?

REMINDER: Install Gentoo.

REMINDER: No arch babies allowed in friendly threads.

alright my dudes i need some input

i need a pdf reader that has the following features:

1. continue reading where left off
2. table of contents
3. tabs support (preferably)
4. actually renders the documents properly (chromium's pdf.js fails for some)
5. i don't want to install 500 gnome/kde dependencies

i've only tried mupdf, chromium's builtin and firefox's builtin. help

What would be the most efficient method to encrypt my partitions AFTER a complete installation?

Fedora 23, if it matters.

I would like to do so without having to re-install, if at all possible.

REMINDER: Never use "NetworkManager"(tm) and purge it if it's taking up 1's and 0's on your system.

Should I stop using android because of the dirty cow exploit?

>>57256066
You should top using android anyway.

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>57256047
have you looked at https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evince

>>57256047
The only ones I know that have all those features are Evince and Okular but as you've mentioned they pull a lot of dependencies.

Free software has a lot of good things to offer, proprietary software has the highest performing drivers, and makes hardware interactions faster than free software. Fuck philosophy, we live in a world of pure bloat and uneeded and redundant features. Everything sucks. If you want a system that runs fast, stable, and secure you need to use both free and proprietary software.

>>57256085
The lightweight Ubuntu variants.

>>57256104
I don't *need* to do anything.
Now fuck off.

>>57256109
Nonfree pig disgusting.

>>57256104
I strongly approve of FLOSS, but I also believe in using what's best for the job. I don't see a problem with developers being able to sell software, and it can create many awesome things. It's not required to only have things one way. While I think FLOSS for everything sounds great, I don't like the idea of disposing of some of the great stuff I've seen developers do. It just doesn't seem right.

100% agreed.

I downloaded a game in zip format and it keeps complaining about missing libraries. I have to start the game, check terminal output for what it's missing and install the 32bit version of that package and repeat untill it doesn't complain any more. Is there an easy way to install these packages in one go?

>>57256126
You're using proprietary imageboard software.
You NEED to use it to post
:^)

>>57256139
How can proprietary software ever be good? It actually stopps you being productive when you are only allowed to use a program in the way the developer designed it.

So is anyone using Snaps? There do in fact appear to be updated snap packages for many applications, making them viable for, say, Ubuntu LTS.

>>57256192
snaps is cancer, invented for normalfags who miss downloading random .msi installers

>>57256172
What else do you expect to achieve using this proprietary imageboard software, other then posting?

>>57256172
It's worked for MS, but that's mostly because they where really good sales people by flooding the market with their products.

>>57256172
When you want to do something in that way and it's vastly more efficient than what you already have, it can be good. You have the choice to get it or not — that's the entire point.

>>57256172
Non-free software doesn't need hours of configuring and workarounds to get a network connection with ethernet.

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I just installed Mint18, a few teething problems from being on Xenial but otherwise bretty gud.

I went with Cinnamon but it was a coin flip since I didn't really know much about Cinnamon and MATE.

What are the pros and cons of them both?

>>57256203
But that makes no sense. For one, they're contained, unlike random malware you install on Windows.

>>57256047
there are no good PDF readers for linux

Don't you miss hunting for malware? I miss it. It's like playing a hacking wargame. Searching the registry for bad entries, virus scanners, ccleaner. :D I guess I should get a Windows VM, just for the fun.

>>57256192
I haven't used them but they seem interesting, especially for lazy devs like valve and vmware.

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>>57256156
Hello?

>>57256104
>highest performing drivers, and makes hardware interactions faster than free software
And why is this, you goddamn retard? AMD drivers not performing well on Linux nor FOSS alternatives isn't due to FOSS, it's do to AMD and proprietary licensing. Look at Intel graphic drivers - they support open source, and their drivers just work.

>>57256255
Do you remember sasser? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasser_%28computer_worm%29

>QUICK
>CTRL+R shutdown -a
I guess literally everyone was infected that days.

>>57256244
>Cinnamon and MATE
they where both born from gnome 2 transforming to gnome 3 but both went a little different paths

Cinnamon has traces of the GNOME 3 look to it.

The Mate desktop environment is more menu-centric.

>>57256304
>>57256255
>>>/friendly windows thread/

>>57256253
>no good PDF readers for linux
I quite like Okulus, it's got the core functionality.

I don't think there's a middle-ground between light-weight only reads PDFs and PDFbotnetOS-AlsoCanOrderPizzas-bloatware.


Foxit used to be the goto pdf reader in windows to avoid bloat but those days are long gone and it's almost as bad as adobe now.

I just reinstalled windows for gaming and I'm probably going to try and find a port of Okulus for it.

>>57256156
>>57256288
If you know the name of the packages, the yes. Check the games documentation. It should list the prerequisites needed. If it doesn't, then they are shit devs.

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>>57256253
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>57256335
the latest adobe reader for windows is actually pretty good

>>57256255
the day i uninstalled realplayer it forever gave me odc about leftover files/registry keys.

>>57256352
pedantic af, we all know

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>>57256297
>He uses amd
Well, for those of us on real hardware, the FOSS alternatives are shit as well. Try making money selling a totally free and open source GPU, without being outclassed by your billionair competitors. It's over son, FOSS lost, and there's nothing anyone can do.

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>>57256054
Anyone have suggestions? I've found some ideas searching, but I wanted the /fglt/ version.

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>>57256352

>>57256156
>I have to start the game, check terminal output for what it's missing and install the 32bit version of that package and repeat untill it doesn't complain any more. Is there an easy way to install these packages in one go?
Yeah, sort of. You could adapt a script I saved to do that for steam.

#!/bin/bash

#
# Script that creates a directory with symlinks to a set of 32bits libraries for Steam
#
# Remember to run this script from ~/.local/share/Steam
# Tempora mutantur...
# Remember to run this script from ~/.steam
DIR="$HOME/.steam"
pushd $DIR
mkdir -p $PWD/myLibrariesLinks

echo "Created Libraries directory. Remember to execute \"export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$PWD/myLibrariesLinks:\$LD_LIBRARY_PATH" before start steam!

dependencies=$(ldd ubuntu12_32/*.so | grep "not found" | sed "s|\s\(lib.*\) => not found|\1 |" | sort | uniq)

echo "Creating symlinks for: $dependencies"

for i in $dependencies
do
object=$(locate $i | grep "$i\$" | grep "i386\|ubuntu12_32" | grep -v "x86_64")
object=($object)
if [ -z ${object[0]} ]; then
echo "Could not locate $i!"
else
echo "Linking $i to ${object[0]} "
ln -s ${object[0]} $PWD/myLibrariesLinks/$i
fi
done

popd

>>57256381
None.
reinstall if you want FDE

>>57256402
>steam
what is wrong with you, just run the games without that cuck client

>>57256373
I don't think that's the case, the GPU drivers have been (very slowly) getting better.

>>57256416
>drm

>>57256402
Whoever wrote this should learn shell scripting.

>>57256381
Can you even encrypt after install if it's not just the /home folder

can we be civil this thread pretty please

>>57256054
The easiest method would be reinstalling, since the installer would do all the work for you.

There is no efficient method, that I know. All you can do is move everything off, wipe, encrypt, move back etc, or similar plans. I've done this before.

I have all my other partitions encrypted, but root is too much work.

>>57256373
>He uses amd
I never said I did.
>real hardware
>current x86 platform
Enjoy your hardware-level rootkits via UEFI and anti-theft modules, as well as hardware-level backdoors operating above user-level thanks to Intel ME and AMD AMT. You're a fucking retard.

How do I make a synchronized, encrypted file storage with support for untrusted nodes?

>>57256457
I'm sure theres a package in the AUR.

>>57256477
is this the new meme

>>57256455
>UEFI
What do you take me for? I'm not one for getting my asshole fucked either. My x58 motherboard doesn't even support that shit.

>>57256455
>>57256507
What's wrong with UEFI?

>>57256530
nothing, they have autism. ignore them.

>>57256530
NSA can literally upload files from your machine while it's unplugged.

>>57256544
source?

>>57256555
His ass

>>57256560
I'm serious. That's spooky if they can do it. I only even just turn off my power source. Now i'm questioning if that's even worth it.

>>57256416
>what is wrong with you, just run the games without that cuck client
Because half the games I play are only available on steam and even the rest are (usually) easier to run on steam.

Steam on windows is great, on linux...not so much.

>>57256567
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface

Read "Criticism" and look at the source links from there, it will lead you to what devs are saying about UEFI backdoors and capabilities.

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>>57256409
>>57256434
Thanks, anons.

>>57256444
>root is too much work.
This. Figure I'll just back my shit up, encrypt during the re-install, then restore.

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>>57255969
What is this applet to receive notifications on the panel?

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>>57256884
xfce4-notifyd ?

>>57256884
It's a notification daemon, most DE have their own, here's a bunch of them:
https://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-notifyd
https://github.com/GNOME/notification-daemon
https://launchpad.net/notify-osd
https://github.com/lxde/lxqt-notificationd
https://github.com/linuxdeepin/deepin-notifications
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-notification-daemon/
http://www.knopwob.org/dunst/

I'm using Fedora. How do I only show available packages(not installed) with dnf search

>>57257100
Which one is used on Fedora LXDE?

>>57256585
>Steam on windows is great, on linux...not so much.
On this note, any else have issues running Steam on Xenial based distros?

LOOK AT ME
I NEED HELP

I'm trying to run a ruby script by using a shebang instead of manually calling the ruby interpreter and using the script file as an argument.

Anyways, the shebang that I am using is

#!/usr/bin/env ruby

I have verified that this path points to the ruby interpreter. I have changed the file permissions to make the script executable. The problem is that when the ruby script is run, it throws many errors.
After fighting this for a while, I started to get a feeling that it was calling the bash interpreter instead of the ruby interpreter. So I wrote this as a test:

#!/usr/bin/env ruby

echo "If this works, I'll scream"
ls

This script runs fine, meaning that the shebang is referring the script to the bash interpreter instead of the ruby interpreter. I'm so confused. Does anyone here know what's going on?

>>57257189
Probably the GNOME one.

It's just called "notification-daemon".

>>57257189
probably lxqt-notificationd

>>57257239
or >>57257233

>>57257229
Are you using Arch Linux?

>>57257286
lol

>>57257286
No, I'm actually using a minimal install of Ubuntu. Have you heard of something like this before in regards to Arch?

>>57257228
>Xenial based distros
What is this?
>>57257316
I guess he's just trolling.

>>57257316
arch is pretty much retarded; they point sh to bash, python to python3 and I wouldn't be surprised if they also fuck around with ruby lol

>>57257316
ruby is symlinked to perl which is symlinked to sh which is symlinked to bash on arch

>>57257357
>sh to bash

No way that's right.

>>57257229
Just download any example ruby script and run it.

>>57257329
>Xenial based distros
>What is this?
Xenial is Ubuntu 16. It seems to have a few teething problems. I think 14.04 was broken at first too.

>>57257229
>#!/usr/bin/env ruby
Step 1 in debugging, simplify the code.
Evaluate the path for ruby manually and use that, if that works, continue with other options.

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>>57257379
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/bash

>>57257405
>If Bash is invoked with the name sh, it tries to mimic the startup behavior of historical versions of sh, including POSIX compability.

At least it uses bash with the --posix flag but that's still pretty dumb though.

>>57257381
>>57257400

Yeah, I did those things beforehand. Just for an example:

#!/usr/bin/env ruby

puts 'Thanks for helping!'

def incredibly_simple_func
end

returns the errors:

./admin.rb:4: puts: command not found
./admin.rb:6: def: command not found
./admin.rb:8: end: command not found

This shows that it is not just an error with the standard library, but even the keywords of the language are undefined.

Meanwhile, typing

env ruby test.rb

executes the script perfectly, outputting

Thanks for helping!

This is weird, right?

>>57257483
What says:

type -a ruby

?

>>57257483
That's not what I'm talking about.
I mean run the script using /usr/bin/ruby or whatever first.

Personally, I think it's something with env doing something weird when run in that context.

>>57257530
Supplying the script the full path via

#!/usr/bin/ruby

yields the same errors as using the shebang with env.

>>57257528

type -a ruby

returns

/usr/bin/ruby

.

>>57257379
>>57257446
Please show me were you can download sh. On every distro I know it's a symlink to bash, dash etc. sh isn't an implementation.

I'd be interested in what your distro uses.

Am I participating in the libertarian socialist revolution if I install Linux?

>>57257690
That's the point, dash (or any alquimist shell) is superior to bash with --posix. All BSDs use alquimist shells as well. Fedora, for example, uses bash but they don't market themselves as a lightweight distribution.

>>57256002
Architect

What's the best filesystem for an SD card on a RaspPi? I see people using vfat a lot, no idea if that's right

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I just realized my router has ssh functionality.

But it doesn't look like they trust me to do anything. Any fun things to do?

>>57257722
Remove yourself from this thread or you will be shot. This is the first and final warning.
>libertarian
>socialist
nice meme you've got there btw

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>>57258103
busybox looks the most interesting since it's one of two that is actually an executable and not just a link.

But that's just boring.

I guess I can just install one program after another, using curl and gzip. And it might be a bit fun to browse internet via my router.

But honestly that sounds like a lot of work

>GNU/Linux
it's just linux

>>57258376
this.
g*u/linux is a c*mmunist meme

>>57258376
In nomalfag land yeah, normies also believe the cloud is an actual cloud and deleting the internet icon will kill the internet.

>>57258413
ur mom is a meme

>>57258414
but that would mean i'm a normie which certainly isn't the case since you can't be an autistic neet and a normie at the same time so I have to conclude that your logic is deeply flawed. It might be that the communist "literature" you've been reading has had a negative effect on your mind

Lowercase posters please leave, thanks.

at 57258454
can't be assed to hit shift every single time i decide to write something that needs to be capitalized so nah, i'll stay

>>57258484
>at
That's the most annoying cancer i've ever seen. 10/10, will annoy some speccy threads with that.

at 57258500
really? why is that? i don't think you deserve a proper response and that would needlessly inflate the currency of yous, not that a communist like yourself would even know what inflation is

Why does Xfce need vsync enabled manually in Xfwm or "TearFree" enabled in X under Intel to disable tearing? Why doesn't this piece of shit ship default with tearing disabled/fixed?

<< 57258599
because xfeces sucks

>>57256002
Antergos

It's bretty gud.

>>57256085
Lubuntu, Xubuntu (if you use vanilla Ubuntu, then install them as lubuntu-desktop / xubuntu-desktop).

You can install the original lxde and xfce DEs on many distros, like Debian, Ubuntu, Arch Linux, Linux Mint, etc.

>>57256244
MATE is lighter and more traditional.

>>57258650
>desktop
Bloated shit. Most distros now offer "Core" packages.

>>57258666
>MATE is lighter and more traditional
Lighter in that it has less gloss?

What does more traditional mean?

Before moving to Cinnamon, I used KDE so my tolerance for heavy desktop environments is probably pretty high. I moved from KDE because I was sick of shit crashing all the time. Even Unity gave me exceptions on every third boot on a clean install
.

>>57258709
I'm not that anon, but MATE is the continuation of Gnome2, before gnome went full retard with with the UI in 3.

>>57258709
Meanwhile, there are thousands of users who don't have such problems.

>>57258749
>MATE is the continuation of Gnome2
Whereas Cinnamon is a tamed Unity?
I guess I can see the Cinnamon start menu as being something like the dash, it does support the instant search stuff.

>>57258827
MATE, Cinnamon and Unity were all born from the GNOME 2 to GNOME 3 transition, they just took different approaches.

MATE forked GNOME 2 and keep working on it, Cinnamon forked GNOME 3 but made it more like GNOME 2 and Unity, which was something that Canonical was already working on at the time for the Ubuntu Netbook Edition, replaced GNOME Shell in Ubuntu. At around the same time Xfce and some WM (Openbox for example) also gained some popularity.

How do I only display available packages (not installed) with DNF package manager?

>>57259283
https://dnf.readthedocs.io/en/latest/command_ref.html#list-command-label

>>57259307
there isn't anything there about displaying only installed packages with the search command.

>>57259334
>dnf list --installed

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muh poll landed in archive.
The results.

>>57259363
>TempleOS higher than *BSD

kek

>>57256059

I use it, didn't purge it and it's taking up 1s and 0s on my system. In fact, it was responsible for the transmission of this post.

>>57259363
>TempleOS
>4
>BSD
>2
LMFAO

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how to dual boot arch and win10? I just installed it using arch anywhere but can't boot it.

I'm trying to set up a dev box so I can play around with Elixir. Elixir's website recommends adding the Erlang Solutions repo and installing Erlang from there, but there's also an Erlang package just on the default Ubuntu repo. I'm not super familiar with how linux works, would there be a difference between these different Erlang packages?

>>57259429

If you need someone to spoonfeed you a simple, internet-searchable question like that, then you should stop using your computer.

>arch anywhere
Nice functional installer, which apparently doesn't cover one of the most common use cases (despite it being retarded).

>>57256085
I decided to install kde neon today because you can rick roll users now. Its pretty good

https://youtu.be/LgH1Clgr-uE

(Skip to 1:20 for rick roll)

In the terminal I know you can put a command to the back ground by ending it with "&" but can this be done once I've already started a job?

>>57259540
CTRL + Z

>>57259540
CTRL+Z to stop the task then bg to put it in the background or fg to bring it to the foreground.

>>57259555
>>57259561

that works thanks

>>57259540

Took me 3 seconds to search the internet for ways how to do it.

>>57259566

I tried searching maybe my wording was wrong but I never got a working solution.

>>57259579

I just entered your question.

https://lmsptfy.com/?q=terminal%20%26%20for%20already%20started%20job

>>57259429
Typical arch user

hey guys what kleenex distro do you recommend for a manlet that poops themselves and wears diapers it needs to be as cool as possible with all the bells and whistles

>>57255969
Windows doesn't have thumbnails for WEBMs.

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>thoughts on my le super sophisticated distro? XD

>>57259806
KDE has it

>>57260238
why doesn't /g/ make its own linux distro

Is there any reason to use i3blocks over i3status?

>>57260308
Is there any reason not to?

>>57260246

Every file manager which supports the freedesktop thumbnail specification supports it when you install ffmpegthumbnailer.

>>57256387
/flgt/ - Friendly Linux/GNU Thread

>>57260304

Why would any sane person use that and not one of the established core distributions which are actually distinct and worth using?

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>>57260450

>>57260304
/g/ already made 3 operating systems
>>57260455
confirmed newfag

>>57259429
>arch
topkek

Running nixos on my x220, the screen is so fucking bright, googling how it's fixed, apparently I have to add some lines to /etc/default/grub, which does not exist.
Should I just create it or is nixos hiding it somewhere else?

>>57260477

>confirmed newfag
How does that answer my question?

Will I probably run into less issues in Xfce, Cinnamon, or MATE? Debian unstable with dual monitors, if it matters.

>>57256059
>Never use "NetworkManager"
What should I replace it with?

How to manage dotfiles, is git repository with all of them in /home good idea?

I need a xml editor on loonix but everithing I've tried is too basic (no autocompleate on xs namespace stuff, no colour codong).
What should I use?

What's the best Linux distro?

>>57261603
The one you prefer

>>57261570
>I need a xml editor on loonix
It's not FOSS but sublime is the standard answer. I haven't found a something FOSSy that is as good.

>>57261613
What kind of defeatist answer is that? Do you enjoy living your life in shame, too afraid to speak the name of your favorite Linux distro because you might upset somebody?

>>57261342
put your dotfiles in one place, make that a git repo and link your files to the proper locations

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Get in here faggots:
>>>/wg/6743571
>>>/wg/6743571
>>>/wg/6743571

>>57261716
I can tell you my favorite but what's the point? Some prefer Chinese food, others Italian food. Both are great, it's only a matter of taste

>>57261821
>tfw no good walpapers

>>57261603
>>57261716
no. It just means that there is no good distribution. Each one have its purpose, its "philosophy" call it as you want.

>>57261289
What kind of question is that?

if windows can run linux apps why can't linux run windows apps

>>57262073
what

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>>57262073
>create opensource win32 for linux
>get sued

>>57260565
I have almost no doubt that this is real

>>57262073
>windows can run linux apps
Not always true. Try running KVM/QEMU on windows

>>57261821
Dump over. Feel free to cont.

>>57262023
One raised by seeing /g/s constant bitching about how every DE is shit and you should only use i3 before ever giving modern Linux a solid chance. Those three I don't hear many complaints about and also look like ones I'd like, but if I'm seeking out complaints to know what to avoid, this is the place.

Should I use ext4 or something else?

It's deepin any good?

>>57262450
It's chinese

>>57262485
So are 90% of the things I own

>>57257389
Does steam give any error messages when run through the terminal? I had a problem that a couple of libs didn't have .bak suffix

>>57262655
>Does steam give any error messages when run through the terminal? I had a problem that a couple of libs didn't have .bak suffix
None, it 'just dies' after updating.
syslog shows a segfault though.

It's this bug exactly: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/4665

unrelated: Can anyone remember what package leave is in?

>>57262355

>modern linux
i3 is modern. It's developed in the same "era" as the other window managers.
I also think that i3 (and definitely other window managers) run on other kernels too, so I don't see how it's Linux related.

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>tfw testing out a wayland based environment
>tfw it's not mature yet and you have to use either hacks or ways which aren't accepted as THE preferred way to do them

Why can't this mature faster? I've seen the light and now X doesn't do it for me any more. ;_;

>>57263207
No one is going to change how their code works just for some "new" "better" program.
You still need xorg to run any program that runs xorg only,which i 99% of the install base

Wayland is meme
Its like HURD

>>57263247
The only programs that will have to change their code are gtk and qt tbqf

>>57263282
No.
xorg-server-xwayland

>>57263308
What would be the point of wayland if everything runs inside a compatibility layer?

>>57263324
You might want to ask the developers.It wont be adapted any time soon, hell, not within the next 20 years either. There is no reason to move from xorg
:^)

>>57263324
Obviously not everything will run in a compatibility layer.

>>57263247

>99% of install base
GTK3 and QT5 programs run natively. CLI stuff will also run with no problems. I wouldn't call the rest 99%. More like that those programs that run are 99%.

>is a meme
Yeah, I don't even know why I'm arguing with someone who claims ridiculous and retarded things like that.
Kill yourself.

>>57263379
There is nothing wayland can do that xorg isnt already doing better.
There are what like 5 de/wm's that support native wayland? Last i checked they were all a shit(yes i know gnome/kde).

Wayland is unneeded.Its a snowflake dev wanting to be a snowflake cause "muh xorg goliath for 30 years".

could we have a script like something to create a usb that unlocks your linux(ubuntu here), like incase your forget password or maybe cant share the password with someone but could tell them to insert usb?

Also, general cool scripts.

>>57263392

>There is nothing wayland can do that xorg isnt already doing better.
Except for drawing perfect frames and offering a smooth window experience. That's just one of the most noticeable things for an user. I'm pretty sure there are other technical benefits.

>There are what like 5 de/wm's that support native wayland
Yes, a handful developed since the past few years once it hit a stable version. For how many years has X11 been around?

>Wayland is unneeded.Its a snowflake dev wanting to be a snowflake cause "muh xorg goliath for 30 years"
You're offering no real technical arguments against it. All you're doing is parrotting some edgy opinions you saw others say, thinking it will make you seem smart for doing so.
You're a pretentious and exceptionally retarded version of a luddite.

>>57263431

https://possiblelossofprecision.net/?p=300

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Device_encryption#With_a_keyfile_stored_on_an_external_media

>>57263439
I'm not the guy you're responding to but I once said that Wayland was shit and you called me a Luddite as well so I guess your the resident Wayland shill?

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So uhm.. y'all got any idea on why I can't boot into shitbuntu?

Pic related is what it just hangs on. Won't do anything after that

>inb4 not your tech support
Well I tried looking for a solution online and found jack shit, so yeah..

>>57263282
no, there are a lot of programs that interface with xlib/xcb directly, those wont work on wayland natively unless explicitly ported

>>57263475
alright thanks!

>>57261340
>What should I replace it with?
dhcpcd and wpa_supplicant for wifi

>>57263483

No, that wasn't me, but you have to ask yourself if there's something to it when 2 people call you something.

>one who is opposed to especially technological change
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Luddite

It's a perfectly fitting adjective.

>>57263525

>no ability to conveniently assign different firewall profiles depending on the network
Awful replacement for certain situations (all portable computers).

>>57263545
>iptables rules

>>57263529
So far only one person has called me that and I don't consider myself a Luddite, since you're on 4chan I assume you've been called a retard many times, do you believe yourself to be a retard?

Anyway my original argument was that while X is shit and obviously needs to be replaced and Wayland is a great opportunity to replace X with something good, the Wayland developers simply refuse to add functionality to the core protocol that is absolutely essential, like global hotkeys, global color change (things like redshift or stuff for color-blind people), etc. This will basically mean that, just like X, there will need to be additions to the protocol later on, so Wayland will be X v2.0 with a lack-luster core protocol and a bunch of shit patched up together to get the functionality that it requires.

So, my Arch broke again.
I need nonfree NVIDIA on my laptop for thesis purposes so I have it installed, but the latest pacman -Syu broke it.
logs show NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. I'm at my wits' end because I need to program on the go tomorrow. Help?

>>57263614

Indeed, you just have to create a wrapper script for dhcpcd and wpa_supplicant which will reload iptables rules depending on the network you're connecting to.

>>57263843
/var/log/Xorg.0.conf

>>57263887
you mean Xorg.0.log?

(EE) NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the
(EE) system's kernel log for additional error messages and
(EE) consult the NVIDIA README for details
(EE) No devices detected.
(EE) No screens found(EE)

>>57263936
That is not the entire log.
Post your nvidia config
pacman -Syyu nvidia nvidia-utils

>>57263491
Never mind, I actually ended up fixing it myself

>>57263979
sorry for asking a dumb question but how do I post and where is my config?
ive done reinstalling nvidia and nvidia-utils though

>>57264121
go to pastebin and post your log contents.

>config
check /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d for config files
check /etc/X11/ for xorg.conf

>>57264168
log
http://pastebin.com/3Dpxubzd
here's the config
http://pastebin.com/0HvqMjqv

>>57264241
Delete your config and use this

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

logout of all tty's and xsession's and as root do modprobe nvidia
then run startx and check logs

>arch
>-Syu breaking Xorg
pottery

>>57264353
user misconfiguration is no means the system breaking things

>>57264401
Some systems are easier to break than others though.

>>57264353
Does this actually happen?
I used arch anywhere to install arch like a month ago and it's been a pretty painless experience so far. How common is it for an update to break the os? If that happens how do you go about fixing it?

>>57264492
I'm not seeing any bug reports upstream at X11.

>>57264523
>Does this actually happen?
See >>57263843

>>57264353

works on my machine(tm)

>>57264523
>using arch 9 years
>only one issue with x11 1.8
>it only happened on the testing repo
>it was fixed within minutes
>main repo's never knew anything about it

99% breakage is users inability to maintain conf files as things are updated.

>>57264338
modprobe returns

modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

here's the log
http://pastebin.com/g6WUae8C

>>57264523
I use Arch on both my desktop and laptop.
Desktop experience has been painless, it's just that NVIDIA's drivers keep fucking up somehow on laptops

>>57264638
Have you updated the kernel and not have rebooted since?

>>57264685
I've done reboots several times, but I noticed that uname -a gives 4.7.2-1-ARCH while pacman -Q gives 4.8.4-1
how do I update this?

>>57264754

pacman -Syyu pacman-mirrorlist
pacman -R linux linux-headers nvidia nvidia-utils
pacman -Syyu linux linux-headers
pacman -Syyu nvidia nvidia-utils
reboot

What's the best Linux distro?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10990789

>>57265366
You know it's a meme poll when Gentoo has 10% of the votes.

>>57265366
Why do newfags always add bsd crap?

>>57265514
As usual, a gentoobabby getting salty because his shitty meme is visibly dying.
>>57265572
BSDs are okay you winshit. There's no reason for people who like Linux to hate on BSD. It's got its own place and they mostly leave us alone and sometimes contribute good shit like OpenSSH. So fuck off and don't stir shit up.

>>57265857
>What's the best Linux distro?
adds BSD
do you even read macfag

>>57265857
>As usual, a gentoobabby getting salty because his shitty meme is visibly dying.

I don't use Gentoo... I'm saying Gentoo having 10% is retarded.

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>>57266044
It was already part of the strawpoll, fuckwit. P.S. I'm on Ubuntu

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>>57266167
>google chrome
>ubuntu
>stock unity
>tab hell

>>57266602
>tab hell
It's more like productive use of RAM and wanting to learn more and broadening my horizons.
The fuck is the point of having more than 8GB of RAM and *not* having this many tabs open? Nothing except vidyashit and videomixingshit needs more than 2-3GB.

>>57264611

Most of the time you don't even need conf file any more. I know that Intel and the free Nvidia drivers don't need them (unless you want to specifically enable some options).

Would it be hard to write a script that goes through a directory and runs ffmpeg on all the mp4 files and converts them to x265 + opus while retaining the filename?

I already have a ffmpeg command I'm using for single files but I don't want to run it manually like a faggot

>>57264611
pacman doesn't overwrite .conf files IF they've been modded.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Pacnew_and_Pacsave
>pacman notifies you when a .pac* file is generated
>you must merge in changes you're self.
I used to use meld when I ran Arch.

>>57266893
>Would it be hard to write a script
Why don't you start writing said script, and find out?

>>57266893
here is an example of how i did it to compress png files with ffmpeg. just edit it to work on mp4 files with whatever command you want

    shopt -s globstar
    SEARCH_FOLDER="$1"
    find $SEARCH_FOLDER -type f -name '*.png' -print0 | while IFS= read -r -d '' f; do
        yes y | ffmpeg -i $f -vframes 1 -compression_level 100 ${f%.png}.png
    done

>>57266893
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/syntax/ccmd/classic_for

>>57266954
Paceman just makes a .pacnew. It does not force you to merge anything.

>>57266893
You can do it with a one-liner.

for i in *.mp4; do ffmpeg -i "$i" "$i" -y; done

Just change the ffmpeg command to match what you want to do, don't forget the -y flag.

>>57266964
Rude.

>>57267063
Quote your variables, use lowercase variables, stop looping and do it completly with find (-exec).

>>57267063
>all this unnecessary bloat
Jesus christ

>>57267101
I forgot to mention, although it should be obvious, that this will overwrite the files and you will lose some quality.

>>57267126
>Quote your variables
good point
> use lowercase variables
that just sounds like personal preference
>do it completly with find (-exec)
didnt know rhar was a thing

>>57267063
Try this. find . -maxdepth 1 -iname '*.png' -exec 'echo ffmpeg -i {} -vframes 1 -compression_level 100 compressed_{}.png -y' \;

>>57266964
I did try actually but it kept complaining with these errors about file names

Trailing options were found on the commandline.
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'VID_20160806_131619.mp4':
  Metadata:
    major_brand     : mp42
    minor_version   : 0
    compatible_brands: isommp42
    creation_time   : 2016-08-06 12:16:29
  Duration: 00:00:08.09, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 17096 kb/s
    Stream #0:0(eng): Video: h264 (Baseline) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p(tv, bt709), 1920x1080, 16881 kb/s, SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9, 29.81 fps, 30 tbr, 90k tbn, 180k tbc (default)
    Metadata:
      rotate          : 90
      creation_time   : 2016-08-06 12:16:29
      handler_name    : VideoHandle
    Side data:
      displaymatrix: rotation of -90.00 degrees
    Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 48000 Hz, mono, fltp, 96 kb/s (default)
    Metadata:
      creation_time   : 2016-08-06 12:16:29
      handler_name    : SoundHandle
At least one output file must be specified

>>57267238
By convention variables are lowercase because environment variables are uppercase, it makes it easier to distinguish between them and also means you will never overwrite an environment variable.

>>57267238
Uppercase variables are mostly used by the environment (type env for example to see which variables are currently set). To make sure you don't accidently overwrite such vars, it's a good idea to make lowercase variables a good habit.

>>57267249
srsly why dont i ever find answer like this when i use my favorite internet search engine.

Am I the only guy who keeps typing /flgt/ in the catalog search after all this time?
>>57256002 How to install Arch the no fun way.
>ftfy

>>57267315
i just search for friendly

>>57267347
>>57267315

just bookmark
>>>/g/fglt
or
http://boards.4chan.org/g/fglt

>>57267315
>he doesn't have the thread open 24/7 for emergency help
do you even /kind/ anon

>>57267404
>he does it for free

>>57267315
>using the catalog
Why don't people use 4chan the classic way? You miss so much stuff when you only see OP posts.

what distro is

>mtn dew Code Red
>mtn dew Baja Blast
>mtn dew Voltage

etc

>>57267492
What?

>>57267492
Ubuntu on Windows 10

>>57267492
>mtn dew Code Red
debian
>mtn dew Baja Blast
gentoo
>mtn dew Voltage
worst flavor

what distro is

>radler
>weißbier
>export
>pils

etc

>>57255969
I want to put two hard drives on my desktop, one for linux and one for Windows. But I don't want to choose which one to use in GRUB, I just want to choose which one I will be using by choosing which one to boot from BIOS. Is this doable?

>>57267608
Use both for Linux.

>>57267608
yes but you will still need a bootloader unless you use efistub

Could I install linux on chromebook with 16gb ssd

>>57255969
Convince me to switch from Debian to Gentoo

>>57267680
I don't understand, what is efistub and why would I need it?

>>57256335
>>57256357
I've switched back to Adobe.

>>57267744
No. Gentoo is a meme. If you want a custom package, compile it on Debian.

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>>57267347

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>>57267749

>>57266602
>Chrome is a fine browser
>Ubuntu is a fine operating system
>Unity is a fine desktop environment
>Who gives a shit how many tabs are open

>>57267608
some bios support it; some don't. (Samsung Foxcon uefi often does)
if your main focus is not damaging windows bootloader and bios doesn't support

>physically move windows harddrive to sata slot 2 (sdb) on mobo
>put linux drive in sata slot 1 (sda)
>install grub on /dev/sda mbr
>grub chainload /dev/sdb

i used to do this in windows 7 but maybe it doesn't work anymore

>>57267786
I meant after reading the wiki I still do not understand. Why can I boot livecd directly while I cannot boot any linux on a separate hard drive?

>>57267887
Then you didnt read well enough, you didnt google your problems and found a result to them, to then move on to the next stage.

>>57267869
>if your main focus is not damaging windows bootloader
This is exactly why I want to set it up this way. But I guess I just need to try it as it seems like it's not a very popular configuration.

>>57267913
Ok.

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>>57267776
I'm obviously out of the loop

I have Elementary on my desktop and I like it for the most part.

My 4 y/o Latitude + ssd is sitting here waiting for an install. Any reason I shouldn't just use Elementary?

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I need help to kill

I wanted to know the free space on one of my pi, so I used the df command
for an unknow reason, df got stuck. ctrl+c didn't stop the process, so I just closed the bash. and tried again, same shit.

Now, I have two immortal df process running, eating two wholes CPU cores. Pic related is htop.

'sudo kill 28240 28479' did nothing
sudo kill -9 ... neither.

plz halp, I dont want to reboot (this is on a orange pee """""server""""" that sometime don't success boot, and i'm not at home this week)

>>57268001
pkill df

>>57268001
I'd have more worries than a failed reboot

Guys I'm trying to build something on Arch but I'm getting this error and I have no idea how to fix it. I don't think I'm missing any dependencies

/usr/bin/ld: CMakeFiles/nheqminer.dir/main.cpp.o: undefined reference to symbol 'pthread_rwlock_wrlock@@GLIBC_2.2.5'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line

>>57268024
df is still here
no error message printed

>>57268110
I thinks it's because I mounted a FTP that don't exist anymore
now I cant umount the FTP folder because "target is busy", probably because of df :(

>>57268168
Knowing what program it is, would help.
Did you check if the package is available?
Why are you doing this outside of pacman?

>>57268192
Outside of pacman, it's a miner.
https://github.com/nicehash/nheqminer/

>>57268186
pkill -9 -i jus
or
skill -KILL -u jus

Debian or Fedora?

>>57268375
Debian || Fedora

>>57268375
Fedora or course

>>57268375
stable, though sometimes outdated? Debian.
up-to-day, but sometimes using experimental patches that break stuff? Fedora.

>>57268375
fedora

>>57265366
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10990789
>BSD: 2
Clockwork

>>57268375
debian

>>57268411
>sometimes using experimental patches that break stuff? Fedora.
you sure? they've been keeping things in the testing branch a little longer than they used to.

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>>57268432
one of them is a mactoddler that pretends to use OpenBSD (only for occasional web browsing). Having no packages don't bother him that way. (pic rel)
the other one is a cuckpad autist who pretends that FreeBSD has better support for the hardware of his laptop than Linux and windows combined

can I use AUR on debian?

>>57268477
Yup I recognize the OpenBSD guy.

>>57268491
No.

>>57268491
Only on Arch and Arch based distros

>>57267979
if you like the de go for it, i guess
to be honest i cant remember why i left it for xubuntu. i think it might have been just cause things felt clunky/obtuse

New thread: >>57268643