/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>56199746
GNOME if you have a decent computer and liked it from when you were using Kali.

Cinammon if you prefer a more Windows-like look out of the box

LXDE if you want a very light DE that works very well

>>56199770
Where can I get additional info on how to not fuck up a Gentoo install. I printed the wiki handbook already.

i remember this sort of trolling, takes me back a bit

>>56199800
Went for Gnome, i'm moving away from everything Windows atm.


I make normal user, then a root user.


My install list so far when this gets up and running.

>PIA VPN "Private internet access" (Bought a year so...)

>Sqlmap
Will adding the Kali repo to my debian work?
Or does the Debian repo actually contain stuff like this.

>Firefox

>>56199770
I just flashed libreboot on my t500. This is the release from a couple of days ago, it added support for high res panels and it made the integrated GPU faster than the stock bios by moving from 32MB vram to 256MB.

The flash worked, but networking is not working. I have tried multiple wireless cards and OSs. Ethernet does not work, even though I injected the MAC address. I can see SSIDs for all of the wireless networks near me, and I can enter a password, but it fails to connect. I have been messing around with it for a while, so I decided to ask to see if anyone has run into something similar.

I flashed my x200 ~1 year ago, and that is still working great. After I am finished with the t500 I will liberate my t400.

What are the /fglt/ approved nonmeme distros?

>>56199858
Debian.

>>56199858
Slackware

Thoughts on Void?

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>>56199858

What is the least dep,resources file manage GUI?

So between Xfce and LxQT, what do you folks prefer?

Is there some sort of guide to use that will help me choose which OS is best for me?

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Ok team, i'm inside.

>>56199871
stable, testing or unstable?

>update system
>shit still won't print correctly

You would think that after 20 years they would have this figured out by now.

>>56199925
Have you tried using your brain as a guide?

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>>56199850
>Firefox
i hope you got esr

>>56199919
ranger

>>56199850
It will come with Firefox out of the box.

When you first boot, open up a terminal and do this:

-su (enter your admin password)
-visudo (this will open up sudo configuration)
-Go down in the text file and look for where it says "User privilege specification". Right below root, add your username, and ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL like it says in the root user.
-su yourusername (this will take you back to the non-root terminal)
-you can now use 'sudo' to execute commands with temporary root privileges (which is what you should do)
-sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade
-sudo aptitude install apt-listbugs ufw debian-goodies

And there you go.

If you want to upgrade from Stable branch to Testing or Unstable, then you can do so by doing

-sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and changing the instances of 'jessie' for 'testing'.
-save
-sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (you should use apt-get when upgrading between branches, but aptitude in literally every other situation)
-you are now using Debian Testing

>>56199933
yes

>>56199811
Free up 48 hours of your life, have spare system handy for troubleshooting.

>>56199858
Arch Linux

>>56199959
>aptitude
bloat

>>56199950
*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread. ***

>>56199977
Get outta here with your memes

>>56199959
su worked.

Visudo command not found.

Also can i get this terminal black? Because it's kinda hurting my eyes to look at this.

>>56199976
He said nonmeme.

>>56199988
learn2use apt newfag

>>56199929
Well that was fast.

You might want to go to the Debian site and read up on a few things. First off, how to switch between Stable/Testing/Sid, unless you like ancient packages. Most of all, if you don't want to get memed on, google your questions before asking here.

Since you said you were studying sysadmin stuff, maybe you should give the Debian Administrator's Handbook a read. I'm doing it right, and it's pretty alright.

>>56199992
If su worked, your terminal should now have a # at the end of the line, indicating you are root.
When you run visudo there, does it not work? Are you sure you're not running it from a user terminal? (which has a $ dollar sign)

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>>56200012
Please avoid using the term “google” as a verb, meaning to search for something on the internet. “Google” is just the name of one particular search engine among others. We suggest to use the term “search the web” or (in some contexts) just “search”. Try to use a search engine that respects your privacy.

>>56200026
Huh. Maybe sudo is not installed?

As root, type: aptitude update && aptitude install sudo

>>56200026

While in root, use the command:

apt-get install sudo

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What's the best image viewer for gifs? Using feh but it doesn't show animations.

>>56200046
imagemagic's animate

>>56200046
mpv

>>56199958
>What is the least dep,resources file manage GUI?

>>56200062
>ranger

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>>56200044
You were absolutely right

>>56200046
>>56200059
mpv

>>56199858
Debian
Arch Linux
Fedora
Gentoo

>>56199992
And yes, you can. It's in the preferences menu of the terminal. Edit > Preferences > Theme variant > Dark. You can install more later.

>>56200033
DuckDuckPlzGo, Stallman.

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>>56200081

>>56200071
>ranger is a text-based file manager written in Python. Directories are displayed in one pane with three columns. Moving between them is accomplished with keystrokes, bookmarks, the mouse or the command history. File previews and directory contents show automatically for the current selection.
Features include: vi-style key bindings, bookmarks, selections, tagging, tabs, command history, the ability to make symbolic links, several console modes, and a task view. ranger has customization commands and key bindings, including bindings to external scripts. The closest competitor is Vifm, which has two panes and vi-style key bindings, but fewer features overall.

>>56200059
>>56200076
seems like mpv only plays the gif once and closes. looking for something that loops.

>>56200094
graphical user interface is graphical

>>56200092
Well done. Now exit with CTRL+X. If prompted to save, say yes
Now continue

If done right, when you're in the $ user terminal, 'sudo' should work for you.

>>56200096
[media.loop]
#loop-file="inf"

[extension.gif]
profile="media.loop"

>>56200106
So you use invisible file managers that you cannot see since it isnt a gui?

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>>56200108
Worked great my friend!

>>56199858
RedStar OS

>>56200136
Awesome.

Assuming you've installed apt-listbugs, ufw, and debian-goodies

Now do

sudo ufw enable
sudo ufw status

And now you got yourself a basic firewall setup. Neat, huh?

>>56200136
Glad it worked for you, but I'm not your friend or anything.

Because.

>mpv with image/gif/webm viewer skillz

mpv.conf:

[media.image]
pause

[extension.bmp]
profile="media.image"

[extension.jpg]
profile="media.image"

[extension.png]
profile="media.image"

[media.loop]
loop-file="inf"

[extension.gif]
profile="media.loop"

[extension.webm]
profile="media.loop"

input.conf:

# Moving around.
CTRL+LEFT        add video-pan-x -0.01
CTRL+DOWN        add video-pan-y +0.01
CTRL+UP          add video-pan-y -0.01
CTRL+RIGHT       add video-pan-x +0.01
# Zooming around.
CTRL+MOUSE_BTN3  add video-zoom +0.1
CTRL+MOUSE_BTN4  add video-zoom -0.1
CTRL++           add video-zoom +0.1
CTRL+-           add video-zoom -0.1
# Cycle original/scaled.
CTRL+0           cycle video-unscaled

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>>56200154
I'm currently going to testing.

>>56200172
Copy paste this

It looks cleaner and makes it nicer if you want to add more repos later.

# OFFICIAL DEBIAN REPOS

## Debian Main Repos

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian testing-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian testing-updates main contrib non-free

Leaving the comments in and stuff doesn't hurt you or anything, but it just pleases my autism to have it like this.

>>56200189
>

contrib non-free

So I'm currently using Windows 7, tried using Manjaro but I went in blind and was overwhelmed with all the stuff I had to learn. Can I partition my hard drive, install a distro, get settled down in it, then transfer files from Windows to Linux from Linux or Windows? Or do I have to put the files on Windows on my externall hdd then transfer it

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>>56200154
Oups?

>put Ubuntu on a flash drive with Rufus
>it boots correctly
>mouse doesn't respond, no cursor or anything
>figure I need USB drivers
>okay, I'll just use my keyboard, maybe tabbing around will work so I can...
>keyboard doesn't respond either
>it's USB because it was made after 1995
>i have zero working IO devices
>sensiblechuckle.webm

Did I do something wrong or is that expected for a live CD/flash drive situation?

>>56200189
>>56200172
Oh and 'httpredir' tells your package manager to look for the nearest and most complete mirror, so you'll always have fast downloads.

>>56200109
>>56200162
thanks anons, that worked. cheers.

>>56200154

>>And now you got yourself a basic firewall setup. Neat, huh?
lel, it need to be configured too faggot

>>56200197
Yeah. I'm not gonna miss out on some software I need just because Stallman disagrees anon.

>>56200200
When you're in an user terminal ($) you need to use 'sudo' before your command when trying to do something only an admin has rights to do.

For example, to open a normal file, you can just use 'gedit file', and if you want to modify it you can.
If you want to open a system file, you can use 'gedit file' to see it, but you don't have the rights to modify and save it.

If you want to open AND modify a system file, you need 'sudo gedit file'

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>>56200189
Fixed, and also realised i had to do sudo apt-get then i got the debian goodies and apt listbugs. But ufw enable didnt work.

>>56200235
For what do you need security holes and botnet?

>>56200226
Thank you captain Obvious. What part of basic didn't you understand?

>>56200239
That's because you haven't installed ufw.
Do 'sudo aptitude install ufw'

>>56200254
>aptitude
is this the new meme?

>>56200200
You'll probably want to get used to using 'aptitude' instead of 'apt-get' anon, specially if you're new. It's nicer at resolving dependency issues for a newbie.

Just don't use it for jumping to testing. You use apt-get for that. And aptitude for everything else

>>56200269
You're the old meme

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>>56200275
Hmm, did i forget something?

>>56200275
>>56200287
aptitude is completly useless bloat guys, you can do everything perfectly fine with apt, please stop this meme

>>56200303
Question. Did you already save the new sources.list?

Because if you did, then before doing anything else you must do this:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

This will upgrade your system to testing. You can't install anything else until you upgrade

>>56200275

Actually, using aptitude next to apt-get can cause serious problems, since aptitude doesn't track what apt does. This may result in dependencies hell.

>>56200334
>>56200303
If you get any dependency questions while doing this, feel free to screenshot and ask. Don't just blindly say yes or no to something without knowing what it is

>>56200334
This was the case, and it's updating like crazy now.

>>56200200
you have to be root so use sudo
you can skip typing all that again by doing

sudo !!

>>56200345
If you can provide evidence for this claim, I will be happy to change my mind. As far as I know, aptitude and apt are both front ends to dpkg. They are aware of packages you install on either.

What I know for a fact is that using aptitude while upgrading branches causes it to flip its shit. So you're never supposed to use it for that. For everything else, it's great.

Run

apt-get moo

, post results.

>>56200352
Cool. When everything is done, restart your computer.

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>>56200371
>>56200364

Debian is very snappy, and i even get greater speeds here than on my Windows for some reason.

What is moo?

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Am i sure?

>>56200396
I see you have open the kali repos in another tab.

Be wary of adding them to your sources.list file. You don't want to create a Frankendebian.

Read this:
https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

>>56200412
Yes, that's from apt-listbugs. It's telling you current bugs that are being worked on. Just say yes for that right now.

>>56200396
now install mpv, youtube-dl and this addon: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-with/

>>56200423
I understand, so i have to download tar files and learn that then.

>>56200434
youtube-dl is a dependency of mpv, so he doesn't have to install it. It just automatically installs it when you get mpv.

>>56200443
perfect

>>56200443
What is mpv?

Should i get that also before restart?

>>56200440
No no, you don't *have* to. Just saying, be cautious. For the most part you should be okay, but if you install some package specifically made for Kali, remember that that is based on Debian 7 (Wheezy). You're on Debian 9 (Stretch). So that may cause problems.

>>56200463
mpv is a nice video player.

No, get it AFTER you have restarted.

>>56200469
Man i really appreciate you, i'd like you to know that.

>>56200482
No problem anon, that's what we're here for

not >>56200469

but just a quick reminder that you can also use "apt" instead of "apt-get" for a generally simpler usage and nicer terminal output

>>56200493
Will you guys help me rice this bitch afterwards? So i can post screenfetch in threads without being ashamed?

>>56200443
No it isn't dumbass.

This almost makes me feel bad for memeing on the newfriend earlier.

>>56200509
Get the fuck out of here tripfag. It is on debian, not on your system.

>>56200509
God damn, would you finally leave this thread? Reddit on other threads, this is /kind/ zone, faggot.

>>56200508
Can't help you with that bit. I can however recommend you some gnome-shell-extensions though. And make you aware that gnome-tweak-tool is installed by default on Debian, so you can mess around with that too if you want.

https://extensions.gnome.org/

>>56200547
Will this work for me?

https://kishorer.in/2015/07/05/installing-sqlmap-in-ubuntu-any-linux-distro-for-sql-injection/

>>56200582
Yes.

>>56200508
You can try out some tools listed here:
https://rizonrice.github.io/

You may want to try out differend window managers and use a wallpaper that fits to your theme colors. That's basically 90% of all rice.

>>56200590
Because he made me install it, and that's pretty much the only thing that has been posted in this thread is me setting this up and people assisting me.

>>56200590
Can we get a mod to ban this guy, for fuck's sake? He clearly is either mentally handicapped or is not able to read english. Another idiot to filter out I guess.

>>56200605
just fyi, you're using Debian Testing (Stretch), not Unstable (Sid)
small difference, but still

>>56200620
lol

>>56200396
So how did it go friendo? Did it finish yet?

>>56200630
lolin @ ur life rn desu fami

When i boot, there's a terminal that says KVM disabled by bios and it hangs there for a bit. But it always gets past, anyone know what that is?

>>56200647
Just your kvm module letting you know that it isn't going to run. Harmless error.

>>56200647
Are you sure it says KVM and not LVM? Because if it's LVM then it happens to me too. I don't really know how to configure my lvmetad so it doesn't show the warning.

>>56200636
>reboot
sudo reboot for debian

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And now, what the hell

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>>56200663
>LVM disabled by bios

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Trouble alarm

What WM has the best balance between being customizable while being easy to customize?

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my computer keeps freezing, uing Xubuntu 16.04 on a computer with AMD

:(

what do?

>>56200691
>>56200698

What the fuck?

Please tell me your source.list file doesn't have the kali repos in them yet
And please tell me you didn't try removing all those packages just to install ufw

>>56200742
No i didnt add the kali repo ever, where i find this source file again?

>>56200736
Agreed. Just filter them. If you don't know how, just get 4chan-X.

>>56200736
You are ignoring your own advice by posting that image dumbass.

Have some self control for fucks sake.

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>>56200742
I did sudo apt-get install ufw and that seems to have worked, but did i just lose a lot of important files?

>>56200758
It's in /etc/apt/source.list but don't touch it yet

Try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade && sudo aptitude install ufw

See what happens then. Does it hit you with that dependency hell again?

Can you guys recommend a book for learning more about linux. I've been using it for about a year as a general user but I'd like to delve deeper. I'm thinking that a Sysadmin book would be a nice start.

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>>56200776
Your command put me here

>>56200797
Exit with CTRL+C and show the output of the command after you executed it and aptitude GUI came up. It's probably some dependency hell stuff from earlier that you showed.

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>>56200823

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It was the other open terminal that fucked it, i closed all terminals ran again and this came

Before I get started with linux, what basics should I know as far as programming, command line, etc.

>>56200837
The dpkg process from before is still going and was left hanging.

You can't do those commands until dpkg stops being used.

>>56200853
Yeah, there you go.

>>56200863
I did a reboot, let's see if i can enable this firewall now.

>>56200854
Just follow instructions for installing it and go from there.

Im sure a few anons would gladly walk you through it, just start a new thread or ask at our >>>/g/sqt

>>56200854

>programming

kekko.
Just start with a friendly distro with a lot of GUI elements like ubuntu or mind or something. This way you can tackle every problem managably as they come and learn naturally.

>>56200853
>>56200876

Ok.

sudo ufw status

Enabled?

If yes, then we are victorious

Btw another nice thing to have is htop. It's a process viewer. top is installed by default but I personally prefer htop due to ease of use. Check it out if you want

And btw you normally won't have to restart for installing stuff again, it's just this once when you're setting up your new system and upgrading to testing and all that.

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>>56200901
Ayy

>>56200792
Seconding this, in a similar situation myself.

Ok, so I'm currently using dd to wipe a hard drive. Single pass of zeros, nothing fancy. The disk is 500 gb, probably 5400 rpm. I've never used anything other than dban to wipe before, and I recall it having a progress bar (if I'm not mistaken). With command line dd, there's nothing but the flashing cursor. How long do you figure it will take? It's been about 3 hr 45 mins. Feels like it should wrap up soon......

>>56200792
>>56200910
Debian Admin Handbook is a great place to get started

>>56200909
Nice!

Some extra advice to get you started:

-Look into gnome shell extensions
>>56200547
-Create a .bash_aliases file in your home directory to make your life easier. Here are some of my basic ones. Once done, save the file

alias sau='sudo aptitude update'
alias sai='sudo aptitude install'
alias sar='sudo aptitude remove'
alias sap='sudo aptitude purge'
alias sac='sudo aptitude autoclean'
alias safe='sudo aptitude safe-upgrade'
alias full='sudo aptitude full-upgrade'

alias off='sudo shutdown -h now'

alias sup='sau && safe'
alias eyy='sau && full && sac'

-Either close and reopen your terminal or just type source .bash_aliases

Now with that you just type 'sup' or whatever you want into your terminal everyday to update stuff, and 'eyy' once a week. That's my rule of thumb, at least.

>>56200981
>-Create a .bash_aliases file in your home directory to make your life easier. Here are some of my basic ones. Once done, save the file


H-h-how?

>>56201017
nirkeh@debian:~$ gedit .bash_aliases

Why? Because by default when you open the terminal you're already in ~ (/home/nirkeh/). Gedit opens the gedit text editor and .bash_aliases is the name of the file it will have by default when you save it.

You can also use other text editors this way, like nano, vim, emacs, etc.

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>>56201

Cant just drag it in, access denied

>>56200927
Thanks. Will take a look.

>>56201154
You have no folder called computer, or documents. In Linux, lower case matters, so it's Documents, not documents. You can type Doc and then press tab to autocomplete to Documents.

You're already in /home/nirkeh by default. You don't need to move .bash_aliases, it's in the correct place.

However lets say for example you want to move 'textfile' from /home/nirkeh to /home/nirkeh/Documents

Then you would do

mv textfile ~/Documents

You don't need sudo to manipulate files within your home directory.

Babbys first unbound DNS instance

Can someone help clarify details about the config:

Looking at this config and with my retard level knowledge I'm trying to understand why you still need forward zones specified.
I thought the main point was to query root servers every time and then go down to avoid having to query third party DNS servers that can not be trusted.

Why is there still a local zone entry in the config files specified here?

I must be missing something big here in my understanding.
https://calomel.org/unbound_dns.html

>>56199770
Any fellow Kali users here? How are you finding it? I ditched Ubuntu after a year and a half for it, I love it.

>>56201206
Please, not again

>>56200792
All books I've read on system administration are really bad so I can't recommend any. Books on the subject of computers are mostly bad.

>>56201217
Hahah!

Well guy thanks a lot, now i just need to get the mac thing in the bottom for my applications and i'm set.

>>56199972
>Free up 48 hours of your life
if it takes you that much time to install a simple GNU/Linux system you should consider not using a computer ever again

Gentoo takes 30 min to install with a custom kernel and even that is stretching it.

>>56201206
>>>/b/

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>upgrade kernel using

genkernel all

>wifi breaks
How can I fix this, /g/?

>>56199882
garbage
you can do better if you're trying to be a special snowflake
go for *BSD

>>56201217
>>56201262
What? I'm being dead serious here. Is this some sort of meme I don't know about?

>>56199858
Devuan

>>56201263
firmware issue, maybe? try reinstalling the wifi firmware and see if that works.

>>56201285
Go look at last thread. We had a newfriend that was using Kali as his main OS for daily use and we explained to him why that was a terrible idea. Which led us to him recommending Debian Testing to him instead, which he managed to install and set up thanks to the people in the thread helping him

Thus, the "Pls not again"

>>56201311
>>56201285
*which led us to recommend Debian Testing to him
sorry, typo

>>56201323
Oh, i just use kali because there's no suitable firmware for debian jessie compatible with my laptop.

What current/future Linux package managers are being worked on that claim to be immune to dependency problems?

>>56201346
Um

You do know Kali is based on Debian right. If it's available for Kali, it's available for Debian. Maybe you didn't add the contrib non-free repos.

>>56199856
never had this problem with my X200

Chances are you didn't inject the right mac address. Double check and reflash your SPI internally from your OS.
Libreboot only works with certain wireless cards that have been freed, make sure you are using an approved one

Ask on freenode otherwise

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One last thing guys.

>>56201361
pacman

>>56199770
where are these rare RMS pics coming from?

>>56201374
Are you trying to ruse me?

>>56201370
I know this may seem silly but make sure you didn't add any spaces before the 'gedit' bit.

Is there a difference between OS when it comes to multimedia playback?

>>56201361
portage

>>56201398
I've never seen any one looking for help with dep hell on arch or its derivatives .I always seen apt pretty much daily

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>>56201405
I think the terminal is broken now.

>>56201428
did you install sudo?

>>56201428
did you install sudo?

I heard mint has some security problem right now. Should I just go to ubuntu

>>56201428
try this, show output

echo $PATH

>>56201437
>>56201441
Yes he did

>>56201437
Yes, but whatever i type now it says BASH infront of. I think because i added 3 lines to the bash when it worked first time

#sqlmap path
export SQLMAP_HOME=’/opt/sqlmap’
export PATH=$PATH:$SQLMAP_HOME

>>56201428
what did you even do?

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>>56201449
>what did you even do?

>>56201454
Remove those lines from .bashrc

You'll have to add them differently, then open and close the terminal

But before you do that, check out

echo $PATH

Just to see what happened

>>56201472
Where is the bashrc?

>>56201468
There's your problem. You told .bashrc to only take commands from sqlmap. Just remove them for now

>>56201420
Well I'm really asking from more of an autistic perspective than a practical one.

I know some can come close, like portage too, which I'm currently using.

But is it not possible to completely solve the problem 100%? Even if say 2 packages require different versions of the same library without requiring the user to do anything special?

>>56201479
in your home directory.

/home/nirkeh
also known as
~/

Is there a GNU/Linux program that will let me stream youtube videos without youtube knowing it was me? Trying to keep disconnected from the botnet, but there are no replacements for youtube.

>>56201497
Just don't log in with your youtube account. And use a VPN or Tor if you want to hide your location as well

You can always use mpv too, so you don't even have to enter your web browser.

>>56201497
use yourepeat. literally a copy of youtube. al youtube videos uploaded are added to it's servers.

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Ok phew. I thought i broke my entire distro shit.

How would i even start sqlmap now?

>>56201543
Ignore what the website told you about .bashrc.

Add ONLY this line to the end of .bashrc
Save it
Close and open terminal

Does it work?
Try this again:
echo $PATH

>>56201574
What line mate?

>>56201574
>>56201586
export PATH="/opt/sqlmap:$PATH"

lol, forgot line

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>>56201590

>>56201505
If I used livestreamer + mpv, how much info could youtube collect on me?

>>56201515
I'll look into a youtube mirror of some sorts, thank anon.

1. What should I use for reading my Picard-organized music off of my SFTP server and synching through my Debian box to my Android phone...

2. How do you stream music from your Debian home server to your Android phone?

>>56201604
>>56201617
Hmm. Looks like it's not picking it up

Don't know what to tell ya, just google it from now on m80. Seems like something easy to solve anyway

>>56201631
>>56201604
Oh shit wait. Did you close and open your terminal before trying the PATH thing?

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>>56201631

lol i just tried some shit and it werks

>>56201656
well, alrighty then mang, I'm glad it's all good

>>56201656
Now just remember to do safe-upgrades everyday and full-upgrades once a week. Feel free to use the .bash_aliases here for that. >>56200981

>>56189834
>>56191080

bumping my post from two threads ago

mpd --version

shows I have ffmpeg and .m4a support but mpd won't play some .m4a files of mine. mpv plays them so I know the files are okay. ncmpcpp scrolls through them all after a second as if the files aren't there. I tried deleting and re-adding to the list in case I did something stupid like add .part files while the album was still downloading. Wasn't the case. Still doesn't work.

How is fluxbox related to openbox? I have used openbox for many years and occasionally I hear of fluxbox, but haven't really looked into it. Is one of them a fork of the other? Are either of them dead?

>>56200129
it uses ncurses so it is practically a gui

not him but I generally install thunar and ranger, then mostly use thunar because I haven't learned ranger that well yet

I often use ranger over ssh to 'watch' a folder to make sure files I'm rsyncing are going to the right place

>>56201702
openbox is more configurable. that's really the main difference.

>>56199925
If you install Arch with Architect you'll avoid the tough install but end up with the great OS which should stop you from falling for the distro-hopping meme as long as you are patient and learn the basics after the install.

>>56201702
fluxbox is lighter and easier to modify. the config files are pretty much plain text. the themes are generally flatter than openbox.

>>56200204
I haven't used Rufus in ages, nor Ubuntu, so I hesitate to say you did something wrong, however that's definitely NOT normal.

I kinda miss Kali linux already :(

>>56201782
then why not reinstall it?

happy kali user here

>>56200854
command line course on codecademy and also linuxjourney.com are good resources for learning cli

programming not needed

>>56201805
Because i've spent eight hours changing distros now.

And i'm not sure if anyone would even help me make Kali safe to use.

>>56201377
I was wondering the same thing

>>56201782
Dude. Install the Kali iso on a USB. Boot from the USB whenever you want to do actual pen-testing. That's what Kali is for. It's a tool.

You use Debian for normal day to day use.

>>56201444
If those are the only choices, yes. Mint is kind of a meme. (So is Ubuntu, but a derivative of a derivative is just a bad joke)

Keep in mind that you can change your desktop environment, so differences between distros are not graphical at all.

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I just installed LXLE from the suggestion of some anon yesterday. When my computer falls asleep, the screen becomes blurry and frozen when I wake it up. Any ideas?

>>56201515
Oh shit. Does it also have copied of videos that were deleted or made private then?

>>56201858
>Mint is kind of a meme.
Mint is garbage run by incompetents. See the recent compromise. At least Ubuntu has a community to care for in terms of sec.

>>56201849
But i bought this Lenovo yoga 500 just for pentesting really, i have another more powerful computer i use for other stuff.
And if i will spend 2 hours to install every tool i need in the future, it will take me months to get this debian install on par.

>>56201860
Do you have xscreensaver installed? Maybe it's a screensaver doing that. Although if you can't make it look normal again, then maybe it's something more serious.

>>56201833
just add an everyday user, then it's perfectly safe

>>56201849
kali has all the non-free firmware included on the iso, hence why some people prefer it.

>>56201899
So does this
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.5.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/

>>56201888
You don't want your pentesting install to be a permanent one on your hard drive. Also, check out BlackArch. It's just a live thing you boot and it has a TON of tools. Very cool.

The user and password to login after booting it is on the site, don't forget to look for it before popping it in if you don't have another device around.

>>56201871
No, sorry man. It's an exact copy of videos currently on youtube, constantly refreshing and updating. There would be legal issues if everything uploaded stayed. There could be cp and shit.

>>56201899
>kali has all the non-free firmware included on the iso, hence why some people prefer it.
This sounds like a really specific and flawed reason based on a misunderstand. As the other anon just replied to you with, there are debian images with the non-free firmware included.

Also, speaking honestly, if you _need_ non-free stuff, maybe look somewhere besides Debian.

>>56201911
Is this actual arch?

If so no thank you, arch made me spend eight hours today changing distros and now it might've all been only a learning experience instead of being able to settle in with a perma distro.

>>56201888
Still. Like >>56201911 said, it's bad practice to have your pentesting tool be installed on your hard drive. You want your pentesting on your USB, and literally any other OS on your hard drive for daily use. It doesn't matter if you're not gonna use it much.

If what you want is to pentest, then stop configuring Debian and just install Kali on an USB. Not your hard drive. It will be ready out of the box

>>56201921
Ah, alright. I'm not even looking for anything wild (I don't think.. who knows why it was removed), but I have a really long Watch Later list I just chuck every video I come across in and then work through slowly later. Every now and then some videos get deleted or marked private and I don't even remember what video they were. Kinda makes me curious forever.

>>56201910
yeah, but it doesnt come with a de.

>>56201944
Actual arch? Not vanilla, no. It just runs Arch at the core. It comes pre-installed with all the pentesting tools you need. Why not just look it up instead of dismissing it..?

>>56201959
YES IT DOES
IT ASKS YOU WHICH ONE YOU WANT OUT OF LIKE 5 DESKTOP ENVIRONMENTS WHILE INSTALLING.

>>56201893
thanks for the tip, I am still new with the system so i don't know if that is installed.

When I pressed escape a circle popped up in the center and when I continued pressing esc a part of the circle was highlighted in red, almost like it needed some password... hmm..

>>56201959
You choose one during the install. What do you mean it doesn't come with one?

>>56201959
>being this misinformed
Yeah, no wonder you picked Kali as your daily driver

>>56201966
Because i looked at it earlier and it was like CIA cyber got to make a distro on demand.

I don't really want people to walk behind me at a cafe and be like, hey this guy is hacking NASA when i'm perhaps just trying to sniff some networks.

>>56201975
Ah, yes. I would try typing in your login password. Still, if it's not a clear login box popping up when you go to type, it does sound like there's an issue. With xscreensaver installed and running, a lot of the random screensavers it cycles through involve distorting whatever was last on your screen, or maybe just your wallpaper. However, when you go to interact with it, that should disappear and just show a login.

There might be similar programs to xscreensaver that I don't know about. I guess I'd look up what sort of screensaver software could come with your distro/DE.

>>56201959
I literally tried to install this last week, man. It doesn't give the usual de selection screen.

>>56201734
>more configurable
They are eq ually customizable.
They both originate from blackbox, they hae changed, but they equally hackable.
Also
With fluxbox you dont have to program a website to use the config file, as it is just plain text.
So
One up for fluxbox

>>56201998
netinstall asks you what DE and basic software you want a bit after the partitions phase. I should know, I installed it on like 10 computers this past Debian Day like a week ago at a local gathering

>>56201944
> 8 hours
NIgga what the fuck were you doing?
Lets say you read slow, 2 hours top.
If you're not a reatard, tops 15 minutes unless you have dialup

>>56201996
Thanks man, yeah makes sense that it would be a login screen. Just weird there was no prompt. Will look into that.

>>56202028
If you have someone spoonfeeding you, everything takes a LOT longer because there is waiting added to every single step. If he's the guy who was getting tons of help at the beginning of this thread, I'm not even surprised it took that long.

I helped a friend install Arch with Architect the other day. This is a process that should take like 10 minutes or less. I think it took us nearly an hour because I had to keep walking over and telling him what to pick instead of him doing it himself or letting me do it.

If people were more open to learning it wouldn't be this bad. It's a real shame. I just hope they get their act together later on.

>>56202028
Well, my adventure spans over two threads now so you can look yourself.

>>56199977
I wouldn't call aptitude bloat, but it is completely unnecessary. It also uses slightly more resources and takes more processing power than apt-get/apt-cache. Although the average low-end computer is probably good enough that it doesn't matter.

>>56202042
You literally copy paste commands from a wiki.
That
Is
It

>>56202042
I learned a lot thanks to a helpful anon that held my hand along the way today. And i'm truly grateful for the friendliness in this thread.

>>56202072
Just returning the favor. Some anon did the same for me a few months ago and figured it was time for me to step it up

Glad it worked out mang

>>56200248
My drivers

>>56201690
mpd has a log (if you set it), look in there for why it failed.

>>56202101
I'ma sleep on if i'm keeping Debian or rolling my ass back to skid town tomorrow. When i think about my education i could use debian probably more often for the tasks than kali.

>>56202069
What? There's no install you do that for.

>>56202135
I assume you use ubuntu from that response.
Think out side of the box for a moment.

>>56202151
Sorry I was trying to be passive-aggressive toward you for recommending anyone copy paste commands from a wiki. I use Arch GNU/Linux.

In my post I said specifically I was using Architect to help a friend install Arch. This uses an ncurses interface during the whole install. Nothing to copy/paste. If you were talking about the anon installing Debian, it's a similar situation.

Anyway you shouldn't be copy/pasting stuff from the wiki for any install. Your hardware might mean you need to make changes to the commands, and you probably won't know what you're doing this way.

Should i sell my macbookpro 2015 and buy a Thinkpad cause im kinda gtting sick of this shit

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I'm trying to learn vim. How to copy a text from it and paste somewhere else?

I'm entering visual mode, selecting the text I want and using

"+y"

. Vim says "x lines yanked" but I can't paste the text I have on pastebin, for example.

>>56200199
You can mount your NTFS Windows partition within Linux to access your files. See https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mount#Mounting_a_file_system (mounting manually) and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fstab (mounting automatically at startup)

And you simply use the same syntax for the mount command in fstab, minus the "mount" at the beginning. Typically this is set-up by the installer of your distro, or can be set in the "mount point" option during the partition managing phase.

I've done this for years and it works fine.

Im having problems with qemu vm.
I have the distro installed and im setting it up, the package manager is updating and works fine, however when i go to use firefox for example it just sits there loading any page.
What could cause this?

>>56202231
You have to compile vim with clipboard support. Distros include this in the gvim package, but not the 'vim' package.

Do

vim --version | grep clipboard

if there is a + beside clipboard it is enabled.

>>56202257
Can you ping anything?

>>56202335
No.But it resolves the domain with ping, drill also works
Host can ping it, and guest cant ping host

>>56202303

It's -clipboard. How the fuck do I enable it?

>>56202366
Either download gvim or compile vim yourself. You can still use normal vim in a terminal even with gvim

>>56202350
Can root ping it? If so it's probably something in /etc/hosts or resolv.conf. Or their permissions.

>>56202466
root cannot
Also, i have attempted to run firefox both as root and as user.
/etc/hosts
127.0.0.1 localhost
127.0.0.1 vm
/etc/resolv 10.10.1.1
That is my router, which everything else is pointed to outside of the host/guest setup

Does anyone actually use Devuan? Is it stable? Does it offer non-free/contrib like Debian? How is GNOME affected?

I just wanna know what the current state is or if anyone even uses it before I consider/try it.

>>56200046
sxiv

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>tfw youtube-dl works with porn

>>56202945
>downloading porn
i'll never understand why people still do this

what are you fags using as a calendar?

preferably would want caldav support

>>56202945
Jdownloader is even better.

>>56203002

I download my favorites but

mpv --ytdl url

works too

>>56203002
Why indeed.

% du -shc ero videos 
522G    ero-manga
951G    videos
1.5T    total

>>56203002
>why download porn?
convenience, persistence, and performance

One, it's more convenient to access files locally. Two, your files are less likely to disappear than ones on the internet. And three, playing media locally typically uses less resources, which is good for people with slow/old hardware or just to preserve battery life.

>>56203120
Maybe it's just me, but I rarely watch the same porn twice. There's too much porn to be explored to backtrack. The only time I save it is when I'm expecting to be without an internet connection for while and need to stock up. Otherwise, I watch it once and never look back. This isn't 1997 where you only have to watch the same 3 vhs tapes over and over. There's like a billion pornos that I have yet to seen, why would I want to watch the same old crusty used up videos.

>>56203120
have spent way too much time looking for old videos i liked.

given up a few times, so yeah i agree with you that youtube-dl'ing it is fucking awesome.

first time using awesome WM. Is it possible to configure the status bar so you can launch applications from it (sort of like the task bar for windows?) If so, can someone point me to a source that teaches you how to do this?

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Ok, so I installed Arch today. When I boot, I enter my username and password, enter my DE... but there's nothing else in here. I grabbed standard gnome just for the hell of it, but there are no programs, no terminal emulator.... nothing. Just the time and "activities" at the top, and the drop-down menu on the right. Even using that to try to view settings results in nothing happening. Can't even get a terminal to probe around. Something's fucky...

>>56203637
Congratulations, you feel for the Arch meme.

>>56203637
you missed something during the install. need more info to help.

Before now, when I used Debian + Xfce I have never noticed the screen tearing.

But now with Xubuntu it's horrendous when I play videos. Any way to fix this?

>>56203762
>Any way to fix this?
yea go back to debian

>>56203675

Yeah I'm just trying to go over things in my head. It seemed to be fine all the way along.

Thing is, I can't even supply more info. Can't access terminal or anything. Shit is sideways. Maybe I'll just start over.

>>56203762
>>56203784
But I thought every distro was the same?

>>56203762

I get screen tearing on Debian Xfce, same severity as xubuntu.

>>56203791
How did you install Arch? Like manually or did you use an installer? What base programs did you install? You're able to load into Gnome so you did something right.

>>56203797
no that is simply not true on so many levels.

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>>56203829

I'm going to reinstall right now. At the speed of light.

>>56203800

So this is an xfce thing? Might switch to Debian Gnome or cinnamon.

>>56203895
it's an xfce thing. why not just use a WM instead of DE?

>>56203895

Truth be told, I've used xfce for many years, so I assumed it was just the way things are. If it's a DE specific problem I'll switch to something else. Trying some new DEs this week I suppose.

What would the hardware requirements be if I wanted to use Windows 10 flawlessly in a VM on Linux? Media consumption, occasional vidyas, and access to certain programs that aren't Linux compatible.

Thanks in advance.

>>56203925

At one point I tried to use i3wm 2 years ago after jumping from Ubuntu to Debian. Needless to say, it was a bad time. Haven't used just a window manager since.

>>56203931

I've used it for a year with Debian. But on Xubuntu, this is the first time it's noticeably visible to me. At most it's a minor annoyance.

>>56204059
I wouldn't recommend i3, I could see how that would ruin your WM experience. Try out Openbox or Fluxbox. Fluxbox is more beginner friendly.

>>56199770
Are the links in >>>/t/707928 trustable?

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If anyone has experience using stylish for firefox, that would be great.

So I'm trying to move the menu icon (leftmost of the search bar) so it goes beside the downloads button (bottom right). The downloads button is on the bookmarks toolbar and I would like to move the menu
icon there aswell.

Can anyone help?

>>56204334
I've downloaded a couple of games from there and had no issues. Most of them come from GOG anyways and you should have no problem as long as you don't run the scripts as root.

>>56204384
>and you should have no problem as long as you don't run the scripts as root.

Ok, that was what I thought, but I've never tried linux pirated software so I was kind of scary, I guess I'll try a couple, thanks!

>>56204059
>>56203925
>>56203895
>>56203800
>>56203762
>Everyone being this clueless

Google Compton XFCE Setup. You'll find a handy guide to get screen-tearing free settings in Ubuntu or Debian or any distro using XFCE.

yea sprinkle some more sugar on that turd instead of using something that isn't inherently broken

>>56200854
Depends on what you want to do. Really you won't need to know any command line stuff if you use a distro like ubuntu and use it for browsing the internet or something. Knowing how to navigate folders with cd and ls, install/remove/update software with your package manager, and edit a file with nano in the command line would be helpful though.

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Can I get feh to auto-zoom the image so it fits the window? I was using Okular as a quick image viewer previously but I decided to try feh out.

>>56205188
The way I got feh to do that was to right click, "select freeze window size" and then press "auto zoom". I don't know of a faster alternative.

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>>56205213
Viewnior seems to fit my needs better. Thanks anyway.

Can anyone help me to use or rather make me understand pkg-config?
I don't seem to understand what exactly it does.
As a whole, I want to compile mpv but for that I need libass. But for libass, I need fribidi.
After I installed the latter and want to configure libass, it tells me that fribidi cannot be found.
It suggests to adjust $PKG_CONFIG_PATH if installed in an unusual path and I did that (even though

$ echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH
/home/user/mpv/fribidi

That's the path to look for fribidi.pc just like pkg-config(1) suggests.
So, what exactly am I doing (probably horribly) wrong?
I know that I could just install mpv through my package manager but that won't help me really since I could get this problem another time and won't really know how to fix it.

>>56205259
>(even though
(even though, I installed it normally without messing with the configure script)*

Is there any reason to use Slackware over Gentoo in the current year?

>>56205339
No

>>56205339
>Ultimate Stability
>KISS
vs
>Ultimate Configuration Tools
>Portage/Emerge

>>56205339
No. Slackware was obsoleted by the introduction of dependency resolution in Debian.

It's still around because there are still people maintaining it (occasionally). That doesn't mean it still serves a purpose.

>>56205339
Well, not really. But there is no reason to use Gentoo over Ubuntu too.
There is no reason to use any distro over another besides personal preference.
Everything you can do on Slackware, you can do on Ubuntu or Fedora or whatever there is.
It's just that one distro has it more convenient than others (and Slackware is the total opposite of convenience).

>>56205339
Absolutely not.

>>56205382
It's stable and simple cause it never changes and doesn't do anything.

>>56205388
>But there is no reason to use Gentoo over Ubuntu too.
ebin

GNU/Thread

>>56205429

>>56205429

>>56205429

>>56205433
The truth hurts, right?

>>56205361
>>56205382
>>56205384
>>56205388
>>56205406
Gentoo it is.

If I make a linux bootable USB flash drive, and I work and browse on that. Will there be any traces left on my main harddrive?