How can "introduce name of company" even compete!
http://archive.is/ow3Od#selection-689.0-709.4
>Neither are out yet.
>Champions #1 is meant to have a 400,000 print run (though a certain chunk of that is exclusive to Scholastic Book Fairs).
But all stock at Diamond Comic Distributors has been allocated for. And so Marvel is going for a second printing on both Champions #1 and the first print of the new Spider-Man event series, Clone Conspiracy #1.
>Champions #1 second printing will be out on the 2nd November and the second print of the new Spider-Man event series, Clone Conspiracy #1 will be out on the 9th November.
>>86686225
>the new Spider-Man event series, Clone Conspiracy #1.
No. I don't want this.
>>86686225
That is some fucked art, or can everyone float now?
>>86686293
It's Ramos. What did you expect?
Civil War could have been worse (or better depending on your point of view. Here is Mark Millar's original outline for the event, with notes from Quesada and Brevoort.
>INTRO:
>Okay, this is the skeleton structure, but I need to see the bones before I can hang the meat. This is a tight breakdown of where I see this going, the characters I’d like to use and some suggestions about where we go from here as a company. Any comments would not only be welcome, but very much appreciated. If anything doesn’t smell right let me know because you guys know all the smaller characters much more than I do. I’d rather hear about an inconsistency or a repeated idea here than on a message-board ten months down the line. Be as picky as you like.
>THE PLOT:
>The issue opens, as discussed, with a small-scale superhero involved into a big action set-piece where all the jokes and the acrobatics get punctured by a stray bullet going right through a little kid. At the moment I’d like the hero to be Speedball and the kid in question, if such a kid exists, should be the son of Tony’s buddy Happy Hogan. [JQ - You sly BASTARD, that’s brilliant. You just made Tony’s point justified. BRILLIANT. Mark, what you do need in the opening is something that recaps the world and tells us of the building tensions so that this can have impact. Perhaps a panel by panel recap of events as a news cast only to pull out to see happy Hogan and his son at some sort of theme café in Time’s Square, perhaps the ESPN Café since they would have a thousands screens and possibly the news. They go for a cheerful father and son outing all the while you’re intercutting between them and a simple bankrobbery about to be foiled by Speedball. Cripes this kid is your Sue Dibny except his insignificance in Marvel continuity and his connection to Tony is that tiny hole in the dike that starts the flood. Did Tom B give you this, because no way you’re that smart.]
>>86686154
>[TB - It’s a nice thought, but it’s been pretty clearly established that Happy and Pepper don’t have any kids. They do feel like the right characters, though, so maybe there’s some way to do this. Having them have adopted a kid that we’re only going to kill a minute later seems crass. Would it work if we killed Happy himself, or maybe Pepper?.] Cap’s argument for civil liberties is very compelling, but I wanted to beef up Tony’s involvement on the other side and a superhero’s carelessness causing the death of his Godson seems like the perfect emotional turning point for him. The reader can absolutely empathize with why he wants his friends registered and licensed after this.
>Anyway, the big opener is followed by a double page title spread and we move quickly into the reaction from the media and the politicians. This is the straw that broke the camel’s back and we quickly follow up all the recommendations about the registration act as the kid’s mother camps outside the White House asking for justice. [JQ - YES!] Villains are on a register and cops are on a register. They’re accountable for their deeds. Why should so-called good-guys be anonymous when they can do anything they like, etc, etc? The first issue, which is filled with set-pieces, ends with the surprising revelation that the heroes have 28 days to unmask and register themselves or else they’re going to be hunted down and imprisoned. [TB - I think I’d avoid saying “imprisoned” at this point. They’re going to be hunted down as criminals—that should be enough. More evokes concentration camps more than is good this early in the game, I think.] Public safety is suddenly a number one priority.
>>86686180
>Second issue kicks off with a lot of these guys stepping up and unmasking. They aren’t being punished and in some ways life looks better for them now. They’re registered and, providing they work for the government, they’re receiving a salary and a pension plan. They’re no longer rogue vigilantes. They’re respectable. The only thing is that many of the heroes aren’t coming forward and SHIELD is becoming very concerned. Nick calls Cap to the heli-carrier and we get a great scene where we have one of those lovely big Marvel view-screens with all the heroes up there, most of whom haven’t registered yet. Nick wants Cap to assemble a team and track these guys down once the 28 days are up and Cap surprises everyone by saying no. The registration act, he insists, endangers superheroes and their families. That’s why they need to wear masks. Nick says the IDs will be kept secret, but Cap still refuses. Guns are raises, tense moment, but Cap takes everyone out with superhuman accuracy and leaps off a bridge within the heli-carrier, landing on a jet as it comes through. In a single movement, he cracks open the glass, ejects the pilot and nicks the jet, flying it out the other side of the heli-carrier. Cap is loose. The most dangerous man alive is now undercover and helping the superheroes who are refusing to come forward. This leaves Nick Fury in a weird spot because the superhero community is split right down the middle with nobody to lead the guys who back the registration. Step forward Tony Stark. It’s basically Iron Man Vs Captain America as the Marvel Civil War begins. [JQ - Mark, to give Cap’s argument weight, I say that one of the heroes that registered has his family killed by a villain. This way when Fury tells Cap it’s all going to be confidential, Cap calls him on it, anything can be leaked.]
>>86686198
> [TB - I agree. My feeling when I got to this part of the outline was that there didn’t seem to be enough of a reason for Cap to suddenly go rogue otherwise.]
>Issue Three is where they start to assemble their own teams. Tony is putting his guys together and their objective is very simple. They want to bring in all the unlicensed super-people, give them a chance to register and, if they insist they’re staying rogue, they’re getting locked up in a new maximum-security prison beside Speedball. [TB - What’s the deal with Speedball? Was he arrested, or did he turn himself in? Either way, it’s a bit hypocritical for Tony & Co to condemn him for innocents getting caught in the crossfire when it’s happened to Iron man multiple times. Something to think about and finesse—each character can have a slightly different shading on the events.] The other side, led by Cap, have formed a new team and they’re all wearing new stealth costumes (resigns of their original costumes that can’t be picked up by satellite or radar) and their objective is equally simple; they want to perform their superhero duties without being captured by the first time. They’re a secret society. An underground movement. And they’re being led by Captain America which means that nobody can touch them. The teams have broken down with Tony having Spidey [TB - Does Spidey unmask to the government? If not, how is he part of Tony’s guys?] , Reed Richards and all the guys we discussed on their side. Dr Strange, Black Panther and the X-Men are staying neutral, but Wolverine comes over to help because it’s the right thing to do and both Ben Grimm and Sue Storm come over with Namor to Cap’s side.
Hey bunchmuchs, why'd we get canceled again
Why were you were all too busy watching wuss shit like Steven Universe and The Loud House huhuh
>>86685767
You were outdated and no longer relevant.
>bunchmuch
it's buttmunch you dumbass, uhhhhuhuhuh
>>86685767
Because Steven Universe is actually good.
And you're outdated af.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxrngeEuYh8
That's not Superman.
Superman would never throw away a tie.
He's poor as fuck.
>>86685811
Superman isn't poor. If he wanted a tie he could just save someone's life and ask them to buy him a 5 dollar tie as a reward.
>>86685811
what are you on about.
Thoughts so far?
Anyone hype?
BTW, this guy has a pretty convincing theory on who is playing who based on instagram posts by the actors involved, including Roku, XO Manowar, Liverwire, Eternal Warrior and others.
http://www.outrightgeekery.com/2016/10/01/conspiracy-theories-connecting-dots-valiants-secret-project/
>>86685449
Costumes look pretty damn awesome, no idea whether it would actually kick off in popularity with the mainstream crowd in the same way Marvel and DC have. I think it could potentially be the next hit when Infinity War is winding down and everyone has grown incredibly tired of Marvel's repetitiveness, Valiant will be something which will be new and refreshing. Will be good seeing them get the recognition they deserve considering they've been top tier since their relaunch.
>Tfw no Jeffery Dean Morgan as Armstrong
>Tfw no Ken Watanabe as Toyo Harada
I'm interested to see how they do X-O. Thatll be difficult on a budget
Why was domestic abuse played for laughs in this show?
>>86685383
Because it was before the triggered decade.
so prissy little faggots like you could make threads on /co/ about it
>>86685383
Because it wasn't against a woman.
>publishes supposedly kid-centric comics
>fills every title with gay characters and gender related issues
Why is this allowed?
>>86685270
boom is pretty much soft-R content
not even remotely close to kid-friendly
They are trying to appeal to a non-existent market
>>86685270
>Why is this allowed?
because it sells
How the fuck can DC consistently fuck up this pairing despite trying to push it for ages? They've tried it since the early 70's.
Here's a challenge for you, /co/, try to come up with a story or just a general idea where this couple works in an enjoyable fashion.
It can't be that hard.
I'd write them having a date and realizing throughout the night that they don't really have anything in common and dating would be a mistake.
They remain amiable co-workers.
It's a stupid pairing and only exists because of 2 reasons:
1) Superman is by far the most famous super-powered DC hero, and WW is the only powered heroine that casuals know, so they're paired up.
2) they have similar costume design aesthetics.
It's constantly fucked up because it's a terrible pairing.
It just doesn't work. They are not compatible.
The tagline on your image clearly outlines the problem. Wonder Woman knows a hundred different super men. Superman isn't exciting or new to her.
Why isn't Nintendo investing in cartoons (uh, animes?) for their main franchises anymore?
>>86685253
Because they haven all been fucked.
Because they can tell stories in games now, so what's the point?
What was the last Nintendo anime they even did?
Why Betty doesn't want to eat her HASENPFEFFER?
So she was the daughter of German immigrants?
>>86685256
Yes and no.
>>86685189
It kills flowers, man.
That stuff can't be healthy
Daredevil season 1 > Luke Cage > Daredevil season 2 > Jessica Jones
Thoughts?
>>86685024
Daredevil season 2 at the bottom because it gets so shitty that it ruins the entire series.
All of them are pretty bad and are ultimately massive wastes of potential. Such short sighted, thin thrown together stories for what was an opportunity to put out the absolute best superhero stories put on screen to date.
>>86685056
The Punisher parts were GOAT though. It was like two seasons in one where one season was fantastic and the other was mediocre.
He'll die in "Infinity War", won't he?
Based on recent comments by the Russos, that's what I'm betting.
Cap dies, Stark retires, the others go their own ways but leaving a door open to return for more adventures and the torch is officially passed to the "new" generation.
It looks like they want Doc Strange to be the headliner of phase 4
Which isstrangebecause they haven't marketed the movie as much as you would expect
Meanwhile i seriously think Spiderman will be their first flop. The cast looks horrible.
>>86685385
>The cast looks horrible
Not really.
>never read a comic
>Doesn't know anything about them
>interested in reading one
What would you recommend?
>>86684506
I'd recommend one based on a genre you already like. Same as if someone said "I've never watched tv/read a book/seen a movie, where should I start?"
>>86684506
A comic.
>>86684506
Read everything by bendis. And civil war 1. Greg lands art is pretty good too
>still no Mastermen ongoing
Who's fault is this?
>>86684478
>Johns letting anyone who isnt him having creative input and influence
kek
>still no superdemon ongoing
>>86684478
The failure of convergence pretty much killed any chance of DC doing more alternate universe shit.
ITT: Western cartoons that go full harem anime.
The Lewd House
inb4 the loud house.