Ultimate Spider-Man Pt. 21

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I'm also willing to do the complete Bendis arc of Avengers which incorporates all the corresponding events (although the chronology won't be perfect).

1. New Avengers Vol. 1
2. House of M
3. Civil War
4. Mighty Avengers
5. Secret Invasion
6. Dark Avengers/X-Men Utopia
7. Siege
8. Avengers Vol. 4
9. New Avengers Vol. 2
10. Fear Itself
11. Avengers vs. X-Men.

This would be an ordeal and I would SUPER recommend a posting order. I'm pretty sure I have all the major issues tied to the afformentiaoned stories but I would want this to be as accurrate as possible.

Spider-Bump

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I know I complain a lot, but Bendis' use of continuity is absolute shit. It's atrocious, and the fact that he can't keep consistency when he was the one that wrote the stories is abysmal. Dude needs to make a series bible.

>>94518497
Spider Fist Bump

>>94518568
Captain America here to abandon another Spiderman

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You said it Gwen. Cap is a massive douche

>>94518749
So, uhhhh what happened to the u.s. again?

>>94518749
>Texas declared state independence
I could believe that

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>>94518758
Preach it brother!

>>94518799
I'm not gonna lie, I seriously don't remember the reason. All I know is that it took place after Ultimate Avengers vs. New Ultimates. I assume some states secedded and decided to become their own nations. Thank god President Cap was there to kick them in the ass. How do yall feel about Ultimate Comics: Ultimates? Hicklman's issues on 1-12 were spot on, Humphries was an intersting concept but brought down in execution #13-24 (President Cap was god tier and there are a few great issues), and then we have Fialkov whom only had 6 issues (#25-30) and he perfectly encapsulated what made the Ultimates great. He hit the ground running and brough balls to the wall action in evey way imaginable. Hell, his first issue was fucking phenomenal both in art and story,

>>94518349
What happened to DC?

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Unrelated to the thread, but I'm powering through all the MCU movies and would to hear your thoughts on them (I know some may not consider it /co/ but it would not exist without the comcis that came before). Post what you enjoyed as well as what you hated. If you're gonna do a rating, try to use a 1-10 scale with 5 serving as a true average. An average movie means that you wouldn't be pissed off if you spent money on a ticket. Not good, not bad, but a solid way to waste some time. For example, I consider the movie "Gamer" to be a truly average movie. Neat plot, so so acting, but I had fun. It's very likely you may disagree because I have a much higher tolerance for bad movies (I blame my friend for making me power through a legion of made for TV sci fi movies).
>Dog SOldiers was god tier though.

>Phase 1
Iron Man: 9/10
Incredible Hulk: 8/10
Iron Man 2: 5/10
Thor: 6/10
Captain America: First Avenger: 9/10
The Avengers: 6/10

>PHase 2
Iron Man 3: 6/10
Thor - The Dark World: 5/10
Captain America - Winter Soldier: 9/10
Guardians of the Galaxy: 8/10
Avengers - Age of Ultron: 7/10 (I know this is a controversial pick but Whedon's directing improved substantially in this movie).
Ant-Man: 8/10

>Phase 3
Captain America - Civil War: 8/10
Doctor Strange: 7/10
Guardians of the Galaxy 2: 9/10 (it had so much heart I was astounded).
Spider-Man - Homecoming: 6/10

>>94519226
>Phase 1
Iron Man: 8/10
Iron Man 2 : 7/10
Thor :6/10
Captain America: First Avenger: 8/10
The Avenger: 8/10

>Phase 2
Iron Man 3: 7/10
Winter Solider: 9/10
GotG: 9/10
Ant-Man: 8.5/10

>Phase 3
Civil War: 9/10
Doctor Strange: 7.5/10
Homecoming: 9/10

>Unseen:
Incredible Hulk
Dark Wold
Age of Ultron
GotG2

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Just recently got a marvel omnibus for Ultimates Vol. 1 & 2. This series (along with Authority) are the epitome of "widescreen comics" I adore everything brought to the table. I don't really incoporate the style into my comics but the pacing and panel layout of those series cannot be overstated. Millar tries his best to limit himself to 4-6 pages and while it isn't consistent everywhere, he sets up a large chunk of issues in this way.

>>94519383
if you're not going to rate less than 5, then just rate out of 5, I say

>>94519397
Miles kills another guy.

Holy shit, he is merciless murderer.

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Miles should seriously tell Cap to crawl up his own ass because he doesn't need "training". The last hero that was trained under Cap's watch he died a horrible death because Cap couldn't give a shit about their safety (I'm never going to forget that he let Spider-Man die). As much as I detest Spider-Man: Homecoming, I loved that Peter declined to join the Avengers because he's fine doing his own thing. Miles' should have the same mentality.

>>94519383
Out of all the one's you've posted, I'd recommend seeing Incredible Hulk, GotG 2, Age of Ultron, and Dark World in that order. Also i'd love to know why you rated Homecoming so high. I'm not bashing it, I just want to know what grabbed your interest so I might be able to focus on the aspects you pointed out.
>I already know Vulture was god tier. I just watched Winter Soldier today and Vulture could have straight up murdered Falcon. Vulture may not have the manuverability Falcon does but his top speed is higher, his ability to rise to extreme altittudes is better, and the suit seems ready for battle as he was able to completely wreck Spidey.

>>94519461
Bendis doesn't five a flying fuck about murder because he doesn't stick around and give it meaning. He uses human lives simply for spectacle.

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>>94519454
I see what you mean, but I wouldn't consider any of the movies truly average, except for Thor Dark World which I'm willing to rate 4/10 as well as Iron man 2/3 (I think I was too easy on them)..

>>94519305
Huh. In the video game, Rhino was some nerdy short guy covered head-to-toe in armor. I guess that's not the case here, if that's his real face and not just a face-shaped helmet.

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>>94519667
I miss the scrawny guy in head to toe armor. I defied expectations as well as being "realistic" in the context of the Ultimate Universe.
>Ultimate Spider-Man was god tier and by far my favorite Spidey game. Followed by Spider-Man PSX and then Spider-Man 2. I'm thinking about getting a PS4 later on and possibly grabbing SM4. I was a little upset that ASM1 and ASM2 were pulled from Steam but I heard they weren't really good games and USM and SM2 were better products.

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Rewatching GotG 2 and it's spectacular. Nowhere near as epic as the prior movie but the characters and their relationships are everything I wanted. Only spoiler if you've seen the movie.
I bawled like a baby when Yondu died.

>>94519548
I'm not too sure if I wanna see GotG 2 anymore at this point.
The commercials and clips for the movie I've seen just didn't draw me in like with the first movie.

That aside, I ranked Homecoming high, because, aside from the vulture. I really liked Peter, Spider-Man, Liz, and Ned.
I feel like they gave great example of what Peter is capable of both with and without the suit. Plus the scene where he's under all the rubble really got to me a bit. Was actually holding in tears and ended up feeling sorry for both Peter and Tom.
Only thing I didn't like, was "MJ". She added nothing and could have been taken out entirely. I felt like she was just put in the movie with that name because they were 50/50 sure no one would know or care who Liz Allen is or who her actor is? She wasn't enough to make me hate the movie entirely though.
Part of me also appreciated the engagement ring joke at the end of the movie

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>>94520059
I'm being super serious when I say this, go see GotG 2. It is a movie entirely unique from the prior movie. The best description I can come up with is that GotG1 is Kotor 1 and GotG2 was Kotor 2. It was so much more personal than I imagined and brought so much emotion to the movie where I expected none.

For Homecoming, I really liked Peter but hated that they combined Gankhe/Ned into the same character. Honestly, the movie did a piss poor job of portraying classic Spidey characters and would have been so much better off just giving their OC proper names instead of raping prior Spider-Man lore. Also the scene your mentioning was a definite highlight of the movie but I seriously hated Pete's supporting cast because they're an abomination to Spider-Man lore.

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I won't say this often but Miles should have pissed off in this instance. Leave the heroing to the big boys that actually have a handle on the situation.. Don't just show up and say ":I'm here to join your team where I have no idea what they're doing or even their motivation for doing so."

Miles is a shit character.

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>>94520229
YOU BATARD!!!! STOP MAKING SENSE!!!!!

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Finally! A story that progresses Miles' character arc!

>>94520261
OP, do you like miles morales?

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>>94520485
I did originally when Bendis actually seemed like he was giving a crap about the character. Since Secret Wars, his series has been one train wreck after another with zero development given to him or any of his supporting cast. Also the fact that Bendis mulliganed probably the largest influence to Miles as a character (his mom dying) is the final straw. He isn't a character Bendis wants to develop. He's a character he wants to shove down our throats and hope we think he's cool for diversity's sake.

>>94519901
>>94520059
I prefer it to the original, as the film sentimentality felt less manufactured, and more genuine like a James Gunn film.

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>>94520571
OOps. Meant to spoiler part of that. But since it was undone who cares. It's seriously like it never happened. Like Aunt May dying. She died years back but they decided to bring her back for some retarded reasona dn then used her as a catalyst for BND. I'm too old to put up with asspulls to this degree. I know my own comic isn't good but it sure as hell ain't this. This series is legimately terrible and a smack in the face to all those on /co/ that have their own dream of being a published creator.

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>>94520603
>I prefer it to the original
My man. I loved the original but something about 2 really clicked with me. The soundtrack was perfectly placed and many of the ending moments were fun as hell. And Kurt Russell as the big bad was a stroke of genius and his motivation was unlike anything seen before. There were layers to the character and not just literally.

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As much as I love President Cap, I hate that they made him a tie in arc for Miles when Bendis should have been more concerned with telling a good Miles' story than a crossover

>>94520154
Has anyone seen the New Spiderman cartoon shorts? Im not... Impressed with it. And I hate Peter's VA. But it might be ok.

>Is he voiced by Dean Venture or is it just me?

>>94520692
I think he's voiced by Prompto

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>>94520692
I have seen absolutely nothing tied to the new series. Ever since Ultimate Spider-Man and Avengers Assemble I've ignored everything TV related. Is there honestly any reason to give these shows a second look?
>Also, which sounds better?
>Gin and Tonic or White Russian

>>94520691
>...is because I'm black.

>>94520750
Had a White Russian just the other night. Was neat.

>>94520750
No. But I miss Peter Parker. A lot. Im desperate. His death in Ultimate still rattles me. I need a good Peter.

>>94520883
Is "user" an insult?

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>>94520829
I'm going for another white russian.
>125 ML of Vodka
>50 ML of Khalua
>4 or so ounces of equal parts half n half and milk.

>>94520908
I guess so. I'd call my ex a "user" in the sense she used people to her own gains. There is not a single area of her life that didn't benefit having me in it (financially, socially, emotionally, occupationally, and us recreationally).
>I supplied her with drugs (weed mostly) and part of me feels like that was the only reason she hung around.
>Probably being a negative Nancy but this still feels right to me.

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>>94520987
Also don't forget 4-6 ice cubes. Use a pint glass.

>>94520987
Sounds like it is an insult then.
I'm glad you never texted her back.

>>94521060
And nothing of value was lost

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>>94521047
I would have seriously broken down if it wasn't for you guys. It's been a year since I last talked to her and she still has a huge amount of power over me which I hate. I thought I was good to date but apparently not if I'm willing to break down and desire to date her.

>>94521162
HAHA!!!

>>94519184
Reed blew it up.

>>94521381
I guess there must be a lot of tall buildings in the middle of nowhere Wyoming for them to use their webs to swing around with

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I ran out of half n half and had to go with gin and tonics. still delcious.

100ML of Gin
15 ML of Poe Lime Juice
5-6 Ice Cubes
Fill with diet tonic water to your heart's desire

>>94518799
Well, let's see. Reed Richards destroyed Asgard and a bunch of eastern europe. Ultimate Obama didn't want Reed coming for the US next, so as a pre-emptive strike, Obama launched America's entire arsenal of nuclear weapons at Reed's city. This upset Reed enough to teleport a bomb that unleashed the physical manifestation of death into congress which destroyed all of DC.

This destabilized the US government since the next person in-line for the presidency was the Secretary of Agriculture who was completely unprepared for leading the country in a state of crisis with everyone in congress, the supreme court and most of the executive branch dead.

Texas and California both decided to secede from the union as a result. Meanwhile, the army of sentinels that had been created to round up and kill off the mutant population (since this was post Ultimatum so America was on a "Holocaust the mutants" kick and was throwing them all into ovens and concentration camps) became self-aware and rebelled against their masters, thus taking over large portions of the mid-west.

Then ontop of that, Thor and Hela's son got ahold of the Mind Gem and used it to turn the Tea Party into an anti-government militia by the name of Hydra who were attempting to take over America.

So pretty much all at once:
>federal government is almost completely destroyed
>Sentinel army takes over the midwest
>Texas secedes
>California (along with Oregon and Washington) secede
>Asgardian God uses a cosmic stone to turn conservatives into a militia intent on taking over America
>the Northeast is put under a state of martial law by the American military
This is Ultimate Civil War, and they decided to take it in a much more literal direction than just "heroes vs. heroes."

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>>94521462
Just made one according to the recipe. Could either use a bit more gin or a bit less lime juice (a little bit of Poe's goes a long way). Still tasty though. Gonna take a couple sips and add another 15ml of gin.
>When drinking, measure out yor shots so yo always know what you've taken in.
>Also use diet tonic water because zero calories. Fuck the haters.

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>>94521568
The extra 15ml was PERFECT!

>Spider-Bro's Finished Gin and Tonic Recipe

>>94521613
SHIT. I hate autopost sometimes.

Spider-Bro's Gin and Tonic Recipe
>Get a pint glass and fill with 6 full ice cubes
>115-150 ML of Gin (I hover around 115-125).
>15 ML of Edgar Allen Poe Lime Juice
>Fill with Tonic/Diet Tonic Water.
>Stir for adequate mixing.
>Drink like an aristocrat.

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This page makes me feel things. Thank god Cassie is post pubescent or else this would be really weird.

>>94521568
Noice

>>94520908
In Tron: Legacy it is.
>I did not expect that movie to be that good
>It had no right to be that good

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I know this is unrelated to the thread but MCU Doctor Strange was waaaaaaay better than I expected it to be. I absolutely hate mysticism in movies but this genuinely kept me invested. I'd love to have some fellow /co/mrades recommend some recommended Dr. Strange readings.

Top 5 MCU movies (Judgement Free Numbers are arbitrary).
1. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
2. Ant-Man
3. Iron Man
4. Doctor Strange
5. Captain America: Winter SOldier

>>94521736
Made Miles feel weird things as well.

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>>94521824
That was the definition of a fun movie. Easy 7/10 because I had never seen a movie like it. Also the VFX were god tier. Also Olivia Wilde was also god tier.
>Sorry for saying god tier so often.
>God Tier

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Ummmm....wow....

>>94521938
It must be the biggest tits that miles have seen in his life.

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>>94522001
My ex made me a definite fan of tits.....and ass....and blondes. Honestly, if you were to look at me and her and then informed I turned her down, people would question it like no tomorrow. Part of me thinks that why she's so persistent. Because out of all the guys she's been with I'm the only one that said fuck off.

>>94521060
Remember Eddie, I really wish he was still around.

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Awesome pic of Venom V2

>>94522194
Pretty cool. He reminds me of that thing from Spawn.

>>94522281
Jonah's the real hero.

>>94522194
I kind of like it when venom become some kind of glob. Make him look like a disease or something.

>>94522300
He really is

>>94522447
Venom almost looks like something from Aliens in that panel.

>>94522542
I like Miles' dad. Dude's tough.

>>94522573
>>94522583
At this point they should just replace the police with hulkbusters in this universe

>>94522615
I think the police would be much more effective if each officer had their own unique costume and started each fight by dramatically yelling out their nickname.
>Hey, giant black monster, do you really think you can stop...
>THE ENFORCER!?

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>>94522161
He's still around in the sense he's not dead but Bendis is king for never doing anything with characters he keeps around (Scorpion for starters).

>>94522494
I like it.

>>94522615
I'd be onboard. I like it when the police have eventually caught up with the super powered threats. I absolutely hate it when a hero gets hunted down by the law and they are then suddenly portrayed as super competent. Batman the Animated Series comes to mind.

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Jesus fuck cops are terrible in this universe. I don't know how Bendis considers this good writing. I really don't get it. Having one or two cops be like this but everyone is goddamn insane

>>94522651
I'm down.

>>94522715
>Gee, I wonder how Miles will handle this new threat that can't be beaten through conventional means?
>lol venom blast
Venom looks awesome in that first panel. I love grotesque, formless monsters like that. Reminds me of The Thing (No, not THAT Thing, the John Carpenter one).

>>94522794
It really does seem like all the fights are turning out like that
>this is a tough opponent that I don't know how to beat
>oh right I can use venom blast that I conveniently forgot about until now
>win

>>94522932
its because she was a clone and nobody has ever told her that? or that got retconned?

>>94522753
This is probably my favorite cover.
I wish I still had the Wallpaper for my laptop

>>94522985
That doorway must be 15 feet tall.

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>>94522794
>love grotesque, formless monsters like that. Reminds me of The Thing (No, not THAT Thing, the John Carpenter one).
MY MAN!! The Thing is one of my favorite horror movies of all time.

>>94522917
SUCH GARBAGE!!!!!!! I literally can't think of a worse way to end a story.

>>94519461
Frank Castle would be proud

>>94523080
Why does he give a shit? He was compelled to seek out Peter because Peter still had traces of the suit in him, and once he got that back, he left. He wasn't interested in Peter for being Spider-Man, just for having worn the suit.

Also, this idiot already forgot that he saw Jefferson and Spider-Man in the same place, so they're clearly not the same person?

>>94523219
how did she died so fast? where did the bullet landed?

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>>94523236
DOesn't matter.
The death doesn't stick so this entire scene is goddamn worthless. I consider the shear inability to commit to decisions as a the holocaust of gaming. I'm okay with shitt plot development, but straight up ignoring/retconning teh plot is the equivalent of a SIDS blanket provided to a third world country.

>>94523230
uh, there is still one page left

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Shame this character development didn't stick. this issue/plot point is absolutely worthless. Bendis, you're a terrible writer. No doubt about it. I feel like I've said a variation of that since this thread started but it doesn't change the thought. Bendis is a fag.

>>94523368
ugh

>>94523374
yeah, legos you stupid bitch

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>>94523380
I enjoy that they decided to age up Mile's because young Mile's gets played out really work.

>>94521036
Base JJ

>>94522194
I'm still pissed how there will never be an explanation on how Venom came back after Eddie was kidnapped or how the suit came across some random dude? Is the suit now sapient like the symbiote from 616 is? so many questions.

>>94523595
I really like this outfit on Lana. It works for her a lot more than her old one.

>>94523687
I think it's revealed that Roxxon tried to make their own version of the suit to compete with Trask and other shady corporations and this guy stole it while he was in their employ.

>>94523463
I find it kind of annoying because they do it like 2 more times, it feels like he spends more time growing older than doing anything as Spider-Man.

>>94523595
Is that the mother or daughter?
I thought they had to be near each other for their powers to work

>>94522856
A shirt that has punk with an exclamation mark???? Corny

>>94524311
It is daughter, I think bendis forgot about the mother thing.

Did the OP disappear?

>>94521775
Lmao he actually said it

>>94521971
Man, Jess is hot

>>94523368
This character was completely pointless, I forget how she even died

>>94523374
>>94523463
>Legos
IT'S LEGO YOU SIMPERING FUCK. THE PLURAL OF LEGO IS LEGO. IF GANKE IS MEANT TO BE THIS TOP AUTIST LEGO LOVER, HE'D KNOW THE PROPER PLURAL AND USE IT.
GOD, BENDIS YOU ARE SUCH A FUCKING HACK.

>>94518026
>Miles is really bummin me out and I'll be so thankful when this is over.
Nobody's forcing you m8. Most of us are thankful for what you've done already, which is a lot. If you want to call it quits now, we'd get it. And it's only Miles so no big loss.