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>>28388668
I've been here for a few months now and I still don't understand who Richard is.

Anyone have the pic with the Aether logo matching up with Arceus?

>>28388856
Autist who insists that anybody who disagrees with him is "brainwashed", posts contradictory screencaps of the games as "proof" to the nonsense he spouts, and generally shits things up when everybody is having a good time.

Just look in the last thread if you want to see for yourself.

>>28388894
He also can't even speak English properly, it's pretty obvious he's some sort of BR or Mexicunt

>>28388894
he also has very poor grammar and english spelling so he's honestly easy to spot

>>28388894
He's also a very mean bully who like to hurt the feelings of others.

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>>28388877
you mean this one?

>>28389175
Yes, thank you

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>>28388668

>Fossil Pokemon.

Oh shit, so, okay, lets talk about about Fossil Pokemon for a second:

>Why do you think Fossil Pokemon are Rock-Type?

-Do you think they're rock type because the resurrection process MAKES them rock-type and that it's just something that has to happen or happens due to them being recreated from a fossil which is really just a sediment deposit in the shape of a bone and not actual DNA? Id est; it isn't a "perfect" process?

-Not all Fossil Pokemon are Rock-Type, but Rock-Type Fossil Pokemon have durable/persistent enough DNA that they do actually become "truly" fossilized and their DNA becomes preserved in the rock. So the only Fossil Pokemon they've been able to revive ARE the Rock-Types because of this?

>Bonus not-extinct round:
-Why do they keep putting Dragonite Skeletons in their Museums of natural history? Seriously, they've put Dragonite Skeletons in at least two Museums (one was a GYM, but you know). Are Dragonites a Cryptid? Did they use to be huge and this is like a wooly mammoth thing? What do you think the deal is with Dragonite Skellies?

>>28389175
How did lusamine=Lucifer come about??? The other stuff makes sense, but that seems a bit weird.

>>28389340
Im not sure, im not the guy who made that image

>>28389288
I think it's pretty widely accepted that Fossil Pokémon are only part Rock type because of the fossilization/de-fossilization.

>Rock-Type Fossil Pokemon have durable/persistent enough DNA that they do actually become "truly" fossilized and their DNA becomes preserved in the rock.
>So the only Fossil Pokemon they've been able to revive ARE the Rock-Types because of this?
I do however, love this idea.

Also as for Dragonite, I suspect they're just so rare, perhaps previously believed extinct? If you think about it, Fossil Museums should be going out of business very soon in the Pokémon world, now that de-fossilization is a thing.

>>28389288
>-Why do they keep putting Dragonite Skeletons in their Museums of natural history?

It's not unusual for museums to put up modern animal skeletons. I've seen whale skeletons in museums.

>>28389340

I'm the guy who made the image. I'll clarify.

Though they dress in Arceus' colors and claim to be angelic in nature, they're not like fallen angels, playing with God's creations by creating artificial life and trying to make their own version of God, led by Lusamine.

>>28389982

More like fallen angels*

Alchemy and the creation of homonculi is an affront to God.

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>>28390001

Also I found this:

WICKE = WICCA

It's basically Shamanism. I would know because my father's side of the family practices. It fits perfectly into the theme.

>>28388894
He's a French autist who can't accept that the PokeDex isn't the purest canon.

>>28390163
You know Wicca is actually (since its conception, by the way) a feminist sex cult that's just filled with new age and bastardized folk religion shit to attract hotties, right?

>>28390319

Neo Wicca, I'm sure. The old shit has more witchcraft and crystals and naturalism and shit.

>>28390403
Nope. Wicca literally started as a feminist sex cult created by a degenerate couple. The wife even cucked (obvious) and later expelled the husband to fuck more dudes and hotties.

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>>28390163

So Arceus create Creation trio member under a Transmutation Circle?

>>28390480
Its obvious the Holy Trinity triangle..

>>28390460
who cares!

>>28390460

Yeah not exactly. My grandmother from Puerto Rico is a white witch. Boricua witchcraft is nothing to fuck with. It's a dangerous area to be in where they practice this shit.

>>28390527

Using Equivalent Exchange.

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>>28388668
Guys
Notice the helmet of Type : Null. It resembles a spartan helmet; and what about Gladion's name? Its similar to gladiolus, a sword used by roman warriors. And who was the god of war in Ancient Greek and Ancient Rome?
MARS
As in MARShadow guys. When shit will get serious and Gladion will take off T:N mask, its true potential will be untapped to compete with the legendaries (solgaleo and lunaala) thus becoming the eclipse pokemon (marSHADOW)

>>28389288

>Why do you think Fossil Pokemon are Rock-Type?

Irl fossils are formed when hard materials (ie bones, teeth, etc) are rapidly covered in sediment. The original material decomposes but a cavity is left behind which is filled by some kind of mineral. The fact that fossil pokemon are rock types is probably just a reference to this process, but in universe, it's most likely that the fossilization process causes them to acquire the rock typing. For example, the kanto fossils' original typings are probably something along the lines of dragon/flying, bug/water and steel/water or pure water

>Why do they keep putting Dragonite Skeletons in their museums

Dragonite is a living fossil, or just because.

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>>28390995

>>28390995
I'm thinking Null was made specifically to stop Marshadow

>>28391230
So You think Marshadow is a evil Pokemon and Null was created to stop it? Or maybe Marshadow has to do with hyperspace portals and taking it down Would mean a easier way to obtain Ultea beasts

>>28391230
Marshadow is probably a Mythical Event Pokémon (because Zygarde seems to be the main Post-Game Legend)

Type: Null was probably intended to stop/defeat Marshadow, which will also be Gladiator themed

>>28390995
My big question is why does Gladion have him? Team Skull aren't the type you'd expect to make genetic monstrosities. Therefore he might be an escapee from the lab, and Gladion might be too. The shaking hand thing he does could be a kind of connection he has to it.

>>28391441
My guess is that Gladion worked with Aether, most likely due to blood relation, but saw what Aether was really up to concerning Null and decided to take them down.

>>28391441
Probably Gladion was victim of weird experiments in the Aether labs

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>>28388668
For FUCK sake I just opened a thread

Explain this

>>28391476
>>28391489
Pretty much what I figured.

Man I'm going to be really disappointed if Aether are the good guys.

>>28389175
The symbol looks more like Darkrai 2bh.

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>>28391489
>Gladion is an experiment.

Contempt, misery, and clothes from Hot Topic.

These were the ingredients chosen to create the perfect donut steel. But professor Thicke accidentally added an extra ingredient to the concoction...

Chemical Edge.

AND THUS GLADION WAS BORN!

Using his ultra super pokemon, Gladion and Type: Null have dedicated their lives to harassing children and the forces of Aether!

So what we're saying is that the American bible thumpers were right about pokemon being satanic?

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>>28390995
This part really reminds me of a birds head. It's even got a beak.

Anyone else think Aether may not be "evil", but instead just willing to do whatever it takes to stop Ultra Beast? Like maybe Type: Null isn't the result of a mad scientist lusting for knowledge, but a weapon of necessity that Aether regrets.

>>28391504
Is that from Clay's Gym?

>>28391682
IT ALL

>>28391733
agreed, the copper piece is holding something together... whether its 2-4 grey fins/blades, or maybe there is an eye in the very middle. the helmey part that looks like a 1 fanged sabertooth tiger could be a decoy and part of the collar, and the actual pokemon could look like a gryphon

>>28391733
>>28392042
>>28392217

Gonna make some additions to my theory. Should make more sense for you guys.

What if Team Aether is using Ultra Beast Bioenergy to create Type: Null

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>>28392042
>>28392217
>>28391733


Enjoy.

>>28391682

Satanic, no. Blasphemous, maybe.

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>>28392458
add this image to make the lusmaine thing more clear

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>>28392487
Not him, but can there be any possible connections between the Alchemy stuff we've seen so far and tarot cards? I'm just curious.

We've confirmed astrology through the symbols in the circle in pic related, and I'm wondering if any of the three are linked further.

>>28391675
10/10

>>28392558
>"Even Pokemon from distant worlds, far from the Alola region, are worthy of my love."
Lusamine's goal is to summon the Ultra Beasts and use them for something.

>>28392589

Maybe, I never looked into it.

>>28392217
>>28391733
>>28392042
>>28392558

Here you go.

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>>28393063
>>28392558
>>28392217
>>28392042
>>28391733

God damn, I'm stupid.

>>28393085
fucking saved

>>28393085
It's mask comes off in its signature Z move, revealing a face very similar to Arceus

Calling it, right the fuck now.

>>28391733
I like to imagine this is the head and its eyes are just lower on its body. It looks 10 times better to me that way

>>28393085
Thanks, man. Although I doubt the Aether foundation will turn up evil in the end, I still have my suspicions.

What do you guys think?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11191684

>>28394102
They're probably collecting Pokemon and performing gene/mutation experiments on them hence Type:Nulls creation. UB01 might have been the result of Lillie's DNA being implemented into one of them.

>>28394102
You should've added a third option,

"neither good nor evil, somewhere in between"

can we talk about the flower links to previous gens? Zinnia & Aster, AZ's Floette. Was this leading up to Alola's floral theme?

>>28395175
good result: Team Aether is doing horrible things to attain a positive goal
bad/probably gonna happen result: Team Aether is just evil period pretending to be good

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>>28395423
here you go

>>28395175
I was going to add
"Scientific, use Pokemon to further their own goals in research, neither good nor evil"
but I thought that blended in with the evil hidden motive stuff.

There is no way the Aether foundation is actually "good".

I see it panning out in one of two ways

>Aether is a front
They are putting forth the idea that they are good for the people/pokemon, but really there is underlying motives that are actually nefarious

>They don't know they are evil
Aether actually believe they are doing good, but in reality are really harming the balance of the world

In either scenario, Gladion leaving makes sense. We will likely have to stop Aether at the end of the day.

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Oh hey, just found out that a Backpacker along the graveyard in Kalos Route 10 spouts that Colress ventured through there and picked up on the energy emanating from the Gravestones. Look's like he's been around.

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>>28395894
we already know anon,

this pic has already been made

>>28393085
>>28395872

Theres also this:

>http://theviolenttomboy.tumblr.com/post/150173333246/so-lusamines-name-is-based-on-the-german-word-for

>"Lusamine's name is based on the German word for garden balsam...
>"It can be used for various traditional remedies, that fits with her looking after Pokemon, it’s widely cultivated as an ornamental plant, so it’s considered pretty…

>It’s also a naturalised and invasive plant on several Pacific Ocean islands."


sorry for the tumblr post but it raises more questions

What if the locked power plants in Kalos were attempts to generate enough energy to create a portal to the UB dimension, or to attempt to make one?

>>28395454

>Aster and Zinnia

>AZ

What if they had something to do with AZ or AZOTH?

>>28395975
Looks like I needed to update mine. thanks.

>>28395990
Dude, so long as it adds something, it's fine.

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>>28395990

>invasive plant on several Pacific Ocean islands."

Pretty, but invasive on Alola. Even their fucking island is artificial.

Oh, and I made an alteration.

>>28396042

Well, Zinnia WAS part of Team Aqua/Magma for some time, but that was only a brief undercover stint. I wouldn't think it's likely for her to get too deep into the Team's info, but if she did, she'd probably use it only to summon Rayquaza for destroying Deoxys' Meteor.

>>28396161
you better add this >>28395990
post to it for further meme magic lore fuel

>>28396184
>>28395990

Done, and much appreciated.

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>>28396232

Why am I so retarded?

>>28396161

The Aether Paradise is relatively out of the way, not taking up any space on the major landmasses. While this might be good for not altering the environment, it's a bit impractical to be so far away from the populace.

Plus, its a tactic often used by cults to prevent information from getting in or out, but since boats seem to transfer between the Paradise and at least one of the islands, that may be a bit too judgemental.

>>28396255
you should make that bit with the flowers easier to read,

just a suggestion

>>28389288
Dragonite is pretty rare, I'd imagine mist people who met were people who met lance

>>28396261

No, at the risk of sounding like I wear a fucking tin hat, I'm very confident these aren't coincidence.

>>28396289
Relax. This is a lore thread, after all. Besides, one way or another, we'll find out once the games get released.

Random question: is Pokejungle a good site to get news from, compared to Serebii at least?

>>28396327
imo, nope

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>>28396277

>>28396391
Much better, thank you based anon

>>28388668
>Pokemon Lore

It's just a game m8

>>28396433
Some of the most recent games have an overarching story as well as a bit of depth to their mysteries. Figuring out how everything connects both between the games themselves and the games and the real world gets the mind going. Plus, its fun.

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>>28396433

>Game of Thrones
>It's just a show m8

>>28396488
>watching garbage

theres ya problem m8

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Here's the deepest lore i found

>>28396515

>Making a point

I don't even watch the show.

>>28396515
>>28396488

Alright, knock it off. I don't want this thread turning into a flame war like the last one.

This new thread about the Riddler's posts might be of some use:
>>28388530

Check it out if you haven't already.

>>28396544
>>28396563
>replying to obvious bait

ya both got issues m8s

>>28395975
Could we add that type: null is a Pokemon fusion and Colress has experience fusing Pokemon from researching Kyurem, or is that to presumptuous seeing as how we don't know who made type: null yet.

>>28396665

No, thread was slow and I was curious.

>>28396888
Definitely a bit presumptuous. Although we know Type: Null is man-made, we don't know if it's a fusion of other Pokemons' DNA, as opposed to simple cloning and genetic alteration. If it is, though, it isn't a fusion in the same way as Kyurem is. Also, Kyurem's absofusion is temporary and between two fully formed Pokemon, whereas Type: Null's creation seems to be at a genetic level.

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Almost there.

>>28397262
Towards what?

>>28397262
Damn that nigga called it

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>>28396888

Don't forget Genesect.

>Techno Blast
>"The user fires a beam of light at its target. The move's type changes depending on the Drive the user holds."

>Judgment
>"The user releases countless shots of light at the target. This move's type varies depending on the kind of Plate the user is holding."

There's also the part about Team Plasma's front being similar to the Aether Foundation, along with Colress implying he and Ghetsis knew each other before BW2.

>>28389096
>>28389043
>>28388968
>>28388894
He's also a fucking same fag.

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Someone suggested I move this over here:
Fun fan speculation:
I was thinking about the flower names and what some of the Aether Foundation may be drawing their names from. I when I looked up Faba, I got "Vicia faba" which are simply a type of bean.
Beans... Scientist... that reminded me Gregor Mendel, a scientist who experimented with making plant hybrids using the pea plant.
Making Hybrids... Like Type: Null perhaps?

I don't know, it's just fun speculation and was wondering if any of you may have any input.
Here's a little article on Mendel
https://sites.google.com/a/wisc.edu/ils202fall11/home/student-wikis/group8
Do you think connecting the two scientists is too much of a stretch?

>>28398002

You don't seem to understand.

Look up Fabaism/Favaism

>>28398028
I don't really see how that relates to anything. Some disorder people get that is triggered from eating faba beans?
I think my theory has a little more credence than that.

>>28398002
Well, his sunglasses look like beans, so there's that.

Regardless, I know of Mendel. He experimented with pea plants to observe Dominant and Recessive genes in reproduction. While the hybridization is a good connection, the fact that it was drawn from a name leaves it open to interpretation. See if you can find any connections between Faba's Japanese name and experiments similar to Mendel's work.

>>28398066

Not looking deep enough.

You're absolutely right about that, but the bean is only stopping halfway. Fabaism/Favaism is directly linked to a genetic deformity that prevents the body from breaking down a compound in the bean.

Aether is all about manipulating genetics, and likely ridding of genetic "deformities," with Fava running the genetics department.

>>28398132
Found the Richard.

>>28398149

Actually, Richard has been arguing with me throughout threads. Nice try, though.

>>28398149
thats definetly not richard,

richards grammer is ESL tier bad plus that anon made a very good point

>>28398118
Bulbapedia has "Sauboh From Saubohne (German for faba bean)"
I knew that all of the team names were German-related in origin. I can't really pull anything farther from that, other than it leads us back to beans.
>>28398132
If we're talking about genes, Mendel was all about picking out the best genes. He's basically the father modern GMO's, so I guess the two fit together quite well.

>>28398167
>>28398172
Oops, sorry. The Richard from last thread always had an empty line between sentences. Clearly I'm going blind.

>>28397371
I wonder if Type: Null will have a signature move as well. Though, it might just be tri-attack.

>>28398193
Nice. We may actually have something of a lead on this character.

>>28398205
It could have a stronger version of tri attack just like volcanion has a stronger version of scald

>>28398197
Check last thread, he's not that hard to miss. you'll notice his ESL and the ingame screenshots he uses.

we need to make a "spot the richard"guide for this thread

>>28398118

Excellent catch with the bean glasses.

>>28398233
Next thread, maybe. I was the OP of the Lore thread two threads ago and reposted a lot of speculation near the OP; such as the weird stuff we found in past games that can connect to this one (horde of faceless men, AZ's floette, etc.), some stuff about real-world Azoth in alchemy, and Zygarde being the Corpus to Solgaleo's Animus and Lunala's Spiritus. Maybe I can repost it here for next time.

>>28398212
It may be worth mentioning that Wicke is also related to peas. Wicke is german for Vetches, which are Vicia, the genus of plant that Vicia Faba belongs to.
So they're both connected to pea plants, and therefore genetic modification.

>>28398331
go ahead, just use the posts where his ESL is fucking leaking.

>>28390163
I thought Wicke = Wiki = very full of information

>>28398343
Keep searching for links between Aether and genetic experiments, see if you can find anything else.

>>28398354
I'll repost the stuff we found. I think the guide should be left to you, since you can identify him better.

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Reposting weird stuff list from past thread

Within Gen VI
>AZ's floette was in XY but cut for unknown reasons, might return a la Mega Lati@s and Complete Zygarde but who knows
>Pic related, can link to the Noppera-bō, a faceless, humanlike creature that is rumored to consume its victims entirely, then take on their form without a face

Between Gen VII and past games
>Project AZOTH was stated by both Aqua and Magma to return the world to its start, Azoth is a city introduced in Magearna's movie
>Sina and Dexio appear in Alola some time after X and Y take place with the Zygarde Cube, implying an extension to Kalos lore
>Colress, a known researcher, has a look similar to the Aether foundation, but is just coincidental at this point, >>28345153 → has these observations
>Type:Null was supposedly created to imitate mythological Pokemon, mask looks similar to Arceus' ring, illustrated in >>28345122 →
>AZ, Alpha and Omega, Day and Night have a huge "Beginning and End" motive, might be relevant

Within Gen VII
>Type: Null is a man-made mon, suggesting a connection with the Aether Foundation, a research group, but again, coincidental
>UB01 has shapeshifting powers and acts like a young girl, heavy implying a connection with Lillie

Also of note is this guy's >>28344696 theory about the third Legendary being based on Aristotle, really good observations

>>28390637
Is it bad that I know where this is from?

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Reposting notes on AZOTH in alchemy

Azoth is the single force -- the "spiritus animatis," as Wikipedia puts it -- of humanity that drives it to attain physical and spiritual perfection. Not only this, the Azoth seems to also have a physical incarnation as the "Elixir of Life" or "The Universal Solvent," and was known as the cure for any mental, spiritual, or physical ailment. Essentially, it's liquid perfection.

Another thing of note is that Azoth's name was constructed from the first and last letters of the Latin, Greek, and Hebrew alphabets, in that order: A/Alpha/Aleph, Z, Omega, and Tau, which ties in to the "Beginning and End" motif present in AZ, and Alpha and Omega.

Additionally, Azoth is another, less used name for the chemical Mercury, which is a part of a very significant trio in alchemy, with the other members being salt and sulfur. The chemical symbols of all three can be seen within the starter Pokemon, as shown in pic related.

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Lastly, Reposting the links between the alchemical triangle, Solgaleo, Lunala, and Zygarde, with said triangle being in Pic related:

From >>28346446

>Anima is the sun
>Spiritus is the moon
>Corpus just has a cube to represent it, and the "arrow" that contains the symbol is pointing down
So is the Corpus legendary Earth or something?

From >>28346536

>>28346446
Literally Zygarde

Azoth = 5 planets (5 mons) + Sun/soul + Moon/spirit + physical hermaphrodite body (perfect Z, which have red (Yveltal, Y chromosome) and blue (Xerneas, X chromosome) wings)

Azoth = Solgaleo + Lunala + Zygarde + Xerneas + Yveltal

>>28398488
Most people do, so not really. But the transmutation circle theory is actually pretty neat.

>>28398411
I've gotta get some sleep tonight, but i'll think it over and come back here if anything else comes up. I hope my little theory contribution is helpful for now.

>>28398615
It was great, man. Night.

>>28396391
>that shit in Type:Null head

what?

>>28398636
Apparently there's a similarity between the appearances of Tapu Koko's and Type: Null's mohawks/cockscombs, suggesting a relation. It's a stretch in my opinion, but there it is.

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>>28398692
I noticed a mistake so I fixed the guide,

if richard shows up again I will updated again so it's a win-win kinda of deal

>>28398692
Personally, I'd have worded the opening a bit better. But as a reference, this is fantastic. Thanks!

>>28398730
which part?

>>28398692
Good, but it doesn't touch on Richard impersonators, who disguise themselves as Richard to shitpost, or else do it to suddenly reveal their ruse and btfo some poor anon for no real reason.
I'm not great at identifying impersonators myself.

>>28398751
I don't have alot of info on the richard impersonator.

maybe if they do shitpost I can use their posts as ammo for the guide gun :^)

>>28398745
The insults. Lore threads are known for being some of the most comfy, and all that trash-talk might drive people away.

Don't get me wrong, keep it however you want, but that's how I see it.

>>28398789
I'll make an insult free version and an insult version personally for richard :^)

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>>28398803
Awesome.

>>28398823
I think I'm gonna turn in too. Later.

>>28398888
Good night sweet get

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>>28398823
Here's the comfy version of the richard guide, enjoy.

im going to make one with alot of insults just for the faggot :^)

>>28398929
Sorry to be a bother, but...

Second language?

>>28399041
it just means richard isn't very fluent, anywho im hitting the haystack

>>28399076
I know, it seems that you got the languages in the wrong order.

Whatever. Night.

>>28398446
What if the horde of faceless men is actually a Ultra Beast?

>>28398411
This talk about plants has me thinking about splicing and grafting plants together.

It could be related to how Type:Null was created with how different body parts were stitched together.

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>>28398528
Continuing with 5 is the perfect number, Perfect Zygarde has 5 colors on its chest.

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>>28399417
>>28399400
Hol up I just thought of something.

XY = Chromosomes = Genetics = Aether Foundation
Yvetal is the Pokemon of Destruction, something that all life goes through including plants.
Xerneas is the Pokemon of Life, giving birth to living things like plants and pokemon.
Zygrade is the Pokemon of Order, keeping nature in balance. Including the laws of nature such as life an death.

Aether is playing with creation (Life), going against the laws of nature (Alchemy) to create something that shouldn't exist. In doing so they summon the Ultra Beasts (Death) which bring harm to both Pokemon and Humans alike. Zygarde (Order) will have a role that balances out what Aether is doing with the help of Solgaleo and Lunala, who in there special phases turn white like the color on Zygrades chest.

Solgaleo and Lunala are the key to bridging the gap between life and death, X and Y as shown on Zygardes chest.

Zygarde literally has a form called "Zygarde Cells" which helps lend weight to it having a role in genetics.

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>>28399417
>Captain obvious to the rescue

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>>28399699
then what does the white mean?

>>28399719
Blue = Women, Life (Xerneas)
Cyan = Women, Death (Lunala)
Red = Man, Death (Yveltal)
Orange = Man, Life (Solgaleo)
White = Neutral, Order, base (Zygarde itself)

>>28399719
Combination of all colors, or in short.

IT ALL COMES TOGETHER

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>>28399756
>>28399769
>All the zygrade cells converge into 10%, 50% or 100% form zygrade

>100% form zygrade is it's max

>it's literally coming together


>MFW

>>28398929
saved for future use

>>28398929
is there anything incorrect about his arguments? he's using actual evidence.

>>28392558

Note the explicit use of the word "Parasdise" in the name of the place. And yes, the Japanese does use パラダイス ("Paradaisu") as well.

>cut off from other islands and outside world
>idea of "perfection" &c.

What was Lucifer thrown out of? Paradise.

>>28400967
He dies things like take the pokedex more literally than needed, and will never use implied information, only the mist overt, spelled out things.

Lusamine = Lucifer doesn't work in most languages
Lusamine's name comes from balm, which is that which heals. The one that makes wounds heal is Jesus. Lusamine = Jesus, not Lucifer

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>>28388668
Pokemon Special accidentally set up Alola formes over 10 years ago.
Kusaka keeps doing it.

>>28398726
I love how at the start of yesterdays debate, he is insisting you can't refer to the anime because it isn't canon.

And within 2 hours, he has posted half of a fucking anime tie-in radio drama, and insisting that you can't "refuse the anime canon information"

Also, I am not sure if you guys noticed, but after he got BTFO yesterday, he made 2 new threads using screencaps from the fucking Wi-Fi Tower in Gen 5 to """prove""" that America and Unova are not the same.

It would be funny, if it wasn't pretty fucking sad.

>>28403069
I hate to burst your bubble, but this is just referring to IRL Darwinian evolution, something Pokémon has done quite a bit before.

S/M is just the first huge expansion on it, in which we see entire groups of old Pokémon getting new forms based on their adapting to different environments.

>>28398929
Man, it's funny. In another general I'm in, there's an ESL anon who actually provides legit leaks/lore/rare info and is genuinely likeable. In /vp/ however, the resident ESL is a fucking faggot.

>>28398726

>He made the guide

The absolute madman

>>28403044
What if Aether scientists are hiding their work from Lusamine, and made Type: Null without her knowing about it?

>>28399699

Another excellent find.

>>28403069
I doubt that

>>28401842
IT ALL COMES TOGETHER

>>28392558
I wonder what she means about that distant worlds thing

>>28408871
she might be referring to other regions or dimensions

>>28388668
Hi Richard!

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>>28391785
Ep with the Clefairies in the first season before Ash goes face the league. It predicted Relicant, look.

>>28411397
Whoa. That's the highest-quality map I've seen of the region.

Did anybody pick up on that one island in the far northeast? The one with only one tree on it?

>>28411397
>All those cities
Damn

>>28411397
holy shit that quality, this will make it a whole lot easier finding landmarks shown in recent trailers,

is anyone willing to compile all the trailers we got so far?

>>28411566
On it.

>>28411483
Possible Xerneus connection? Perhaps where the Zygarde story culminates?

>>28411566
Some people did some of this with the older trailers, but I don't think we have a full map breakdown with all the recent trailer locations.

>>28411542
There's only like, 12 at most

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>>28411397
Johto inspired town, complete with its own Ho-oh Tower.

IT ALL COMES TOGETHER

>>28411566
>>28411672
USA/UK
Announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmzDL1l3Fag
Starters Reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn25hijDL7c
Box Legendaries Reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW14HO7C1Dg
Zygarde Formes Gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDTKAX-UcQs
Yungoos, Pikipek, Grubbin, & Battle Royale Reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ojd6FzTaEM
Tapu Koko & Co. Reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE2NJjuQc3A
Salandit Reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ2sin-c3Kk
Bewear, Mimikyu & Co. Reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKosBJ1Uko0
Z-moves, Alolan Formes, Other New Pokemon Reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AZHowhxM0U
Team Skull, more Pokemon & Alolan Formes Reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py2LxgWBaRQ
Sandygast, Stufful & Co. Reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1hsh267tUM
Event Munchlax Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsTuHGpLJfM
Aether Foundation, Ultra Beasts, New Formes and Pokemon Reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFbMGKvN6ts

Japanese trailers coming up in a bit.

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>>28411939
you're doing gods work fellow lorefag

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>>28388668
Finally did it. I saw the pic about cross regional appearances, and felt like updating it because a lot was missing. Adding the list is done, all that's left is the formatting. But I can still post this now.

>Johto and Unova being so based
>not much people coming to Sinnoh but Sinnoh people going everywhere

>>28411939
Scratch that. The Japanese trailers use footage split up from what we've seen, so I'm only going to post the big ones;

Welcome Ad, new amie & trading footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyIkvadJU1Q
>Alolan Formes, Wave 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iaav6J6XzFs
Team Skull, New mons, Alolan Formes wave 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VmMURRKWFk
>Aether Corp, New Mons, Alolan formes wave 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR1ssSZfoGY
Most Recent EPIC Trailer, All kinds of footage including Aether & UB01: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oO_P4GX_RA

>>28412101
>Johto, Sinnoh, and Unova are my favorite Regions, with my favorite characters
>They're the ones who show up everywhere, getting the most development
feels good man

>>28412101
You should add context to each of these. At the very least, which games they crossover into. But you could also add where it fits into the timeline, any context of the cameo, ect.

Also, you may want to add the other cross-region HG/SS cameos. Jasmine, for example, is talking with Erika in Kanto, and it actually contextualizes her crossover with Platinum where she shows up in Sinnoh.

Another thing;

>Giovanni in HG/SS
>Jasmine participating in Sinnoh Contests

Lastly, you may want to mention namedrop cameos. The text about Blue and Colress being in Kalos for example. You don't see them yourself, but they're there.

Finally, good job, I am glad someone did this. Character cameos/extra development are some of my favorite things in Pokémon, and they can be more important than people think.

>>28398233
He always names his images weirdly literally, too.

>>28412172
Not too big on Johto, but I absolutely LOVE Sinnoh, as it was my first Region although I action replay'd through it cause I was horribly unconfident and autistic and it has the best lore. Unova's great too, but it took me a bit to warm up to it.

I'm a bit sad that Kanto doesn't get too much involvement in other regions other than Oak visiting, though that might be due to it not being having much of a lore to it.

>>28412301
>I'm a bit sad that Kanto doesn't get too much involvement in other regions
You have to remember Kanto got a complete 2.0 in the Johto games, with all the Gym Leaders getting redesigns. In HG/SS, quite a lot of them got extra development and encounters, too.

And then there is also Sabrina and Red, who are recurring.

So Kanto does get quite a bit of love. It's just that it didn't really introduce any other side-characters like Looker or Colress, to show up in other games.

>it was my first Region
Platinum got me back into the franchise. I played Red-through-Sapphire, but Gen 3 man. It was too long. 5 long years of a Gen I just couldn't enjoy like I did the first two. When D/P came out, I had lost all interest. But I gave Platinum a shot, and I fell in love with Pokémon all over again. I love Johto, partly because nostalgia, but also because HG/SS as a counterpart to Platinum become 11/10. You get so much lore, across three Regions, and so much content. Those games can keep you going for months.

>it has the best lore
It's sort of hard to top the literal PokéGods, yeah. That's why I am glad S/M seem to be revisiting and expanding on old lore, possibly even Arceus stuff if Type: Null is any clue.

>>28412301
>>28412439
D/P were slow and fucking terrible, I cannot say this enough, BUT the actual plot and lore were definitely showing signs of being interesting. Platinum actually improved the hell out of the games and helped highlight its good parts, amking for an all-around cool as shit (for the time) plot and sort of concreting a lot of the more mythological lore of the games. Before that was the generic box-art legendary stuff and Mew/Mewtwo, and with no real connection between any of them. The only exception I can think of is the Regis, which Gen 4 continued to develop upon with Regigigas.

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>>28412265
All good ideas. Though I dont know how much of that I'm gonna add, since this image feels pretty big already.

Also, Giovanni was at Tohjo Falls, which is sort of Johto, but also Kanto, so I'll leave that out. Plus I already have Jasmine right there, Maylene only gets two HGSS mentions because she is seen in Kanto but is participating in Johto Pokeathlons, meaning two regions

>Jasmine, for example, is talking with Erika in Kanto
Huh. I did miss one.

>You should add context to each of these.
I dont know about that one. This will definitely make things too much. Especially with some of these. Oak is seen at like, 4 Sinnoh locations. Maybe in a separate Pastebin.

>At the very least, which games they crossover into
I think that one is a given, since you see which game it is just by looking at it. Each line is a region too. I was going to illustrate that too though. Maybe colour code each line.

>Lastly, you may want to mention namedrop cameos
That was the next project. Though I was just gonna do a few lines of it at the bottom of the image if there arent too many.

>Finally, good job, I am glad someone did this.
No problem, I honestly spend time making pics like this purely for discussion, out of boredom. But /vp/ isnt a discussion heavy place outside shitposting.

>>28412172
My favourite regions are Johto and Unova so you must know how I feel. This is great. Sinnoh is good too so I'm just all smiles. Hoenn and Kalos are pathetic though.

>>28412301
I mean, Kanto has the only E4 member to do pretty much anything with an evil team (and the only Sevii rep) and also has the movie star and Red.

>>28412587
Gen 5 also developed the Regi's. All 4 of them are in a cave in B2/W2 with new puzzles. Really cool stuff, really underappreciated.

Also, I played Platinum, not D/P. I hear that Platinum fixed a lot of D/P's problems, and made the games faster.

I sometime hear complains about HG/SS and Plat still being too slow, but I never really noticed it.

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I love these threads

>>28412606
>But /vp/ isnt a discussion heavy place outside shitposting.
Usually, but these lore threads have been incredibly fun with quite a bit of discussion lately, so...

>My favourite regions are Johto and Unova so you must know how I feel.
>This is great. Sinnoh is good too so I'm just all smiles.
>Hoenn and Kalos are pathetic though.
Yeah, I pretty much agree completely. I do feel bittersweet with Kalos though. I enjoyed it and wish they used the Region better. I really believe with some tweaking, I could have been great. OR/AS showed me that Hoenn is never going to be fun for me though.

>>28411850
Thats very similar to Ecruteak city

>>28412606
Also, see Hearthome City.
tho, the most important city of Johto is Ecruteak, guess it should be on the down part.

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The meteorite in ORAS, what if there were time travel shenanigans and somehow the meteor in ORAS was the meteorite from the legends told by Professor Juniper?

Why does gamefreak love meteors so much?

Also this page is a fun read if you want to kill some time.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Myths_and_legends_involving_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon

I was in a thread a month back discussing favorite cities and eventually shifted to Generations. People agreed that though Gen VI was a bit lackluster story-wise, it improved immensely on mechanics and graphics, making one of the biggest technical leaps in the series.

That said, Gen V could, in a way, be considered Gen VI's opposite, with a reduced Dex size as opposed to Kalos' giant one, but an incredible amount of storytelling and world-building. Mechanically, it was pretty much identical to Gen IV, but introduced so much it could practically be called "Pokemon: Reloaded."

>>28412921
Well X/Y's engine was developed with the game so they didn't have time to flesh out the story while oras was more like an experiment.

S&M so far is turning out great

>>28412782
Same on both fronts. But what really gets me is how pretty much nobody appears in Kalos or Hoenn, even between Gen 6 itself. Seems noticeably isolated. Though Sycamore went to Sinnoh and AZ went to Hoenn.

>>28412101
aaaand I forgot Eusine.

>>28412875
No, it was biggest city of each region. Celadon and Nimbasa are only there because Saffron and Castelia are canonically larger but Celadon and Nimbasa have more people.

Also sad that Lumiose City alone has more people than all of Kanto.

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Anon's I made a small update to the richard guide,

it's the fact that he always contradicts himself constantly and it's hilarious to watch

>>28412892
Nah, the meteorite in OR/AS contained Megastones, the second one containing Deoxys.

The one in Unova was where Kyurem/Reshiram/Zekrom came from. It was the Original Dragon crashing and splitting, I am sure.

>>28412921
I guess that makes sense. B2/W2 still have the most content of any Pokémon game. (Except maybe just maybe, HG/SS)

Gen 6 did have a huge leap forward for visuals and mechanics, so I can't really hate it though.

>>28413054
I noticed that too. Funny shit.

>>28412921
>Mechanically, it was pretty much identical to Gen IV
I wouldn't say IDENTICAL. Weather was much more valuable in Gen V than Gen IV, for example.

>>28412959
S/M seems to have an engine that has grown off Gen VI, saving a lot of time in the developmental process, allowing more room for the region and lore to grow. So far, it looks like it's going to be a far better BW to Kalos' DP.

Main point: Gen VI broke the ground on the 3DS for Gen VII to build on, and they are gonna build big.

>>28413126
I hope so. I really do.

People feel burned out from OR/AS and X/Y having such a small Post-Game though.

I feel like they tried to cover up the lack of content by ending it with this big "explosive" story with Deoxys and Rayquaza, but there really wasn't all that much content there at all.

But you also have to consider, we didn't get a game in 2015. Pokémon has been a mostly annual release for quite a while now. But they're had an extra year to make S/M, so they have absolutely no excuse now.

They didn't need to make new models for the first 721 Pokémon either, so in theory, S/M should have as much content as at LEAST Platinum, but maybe as much as B2/W2 or HG/SS if we're lucky.

In Kanto we had Moltres, Zapdos, and Articuno.

In Johto we had Suicuon, Entei, and Raikou.

In Hoenn we had Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza.

In Sinnoh we had Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina.

In Unova we had Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyureum.

In XY we had Yvetal, Xerneas, and Zygarde.

And so far in Sun and Moon we have Solgaleo and Lunala.

All the legendaries are involved with one another lore wise, what do you think the 3rd edition to the Sun and Moon trio will be. And why is the number 3 so important?

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I made another small updated on the richard guide

again it's showing his hilarious contradictions

>>28413126
Though come to think about it, HGSS was a good mid point between Pt and BW. It actually shares a lot of things with Gen 5 compared to the rest of Gen 4, that made the transition smooth. Stuff like Flat Battles, camera angle changes, even several interiors which are closer to how Gen 5 does them than Gen 4.

ORAS didnt feel like pushing the Gen 6 mechanics further at all, really. Mainly in how the overworld was a lot more square in that than XY.

>>28413317
So far, it actually just seems like Zygarde is the 3rd Legendary.

There's also the leaked "Marshadow", but a lot of signs are pointing to that being a Mythical Event Pokémon, and Zygarde being the main 3rd legend instead.

>>28413474
OR/AS was a complete fucking downgrade. They don't look as good as X/Y, and the towns are empty as shit. They even split the Mart and PokéCenters. Goddamn, what a travesty.

>>28413474
>>28413560

thats why I pretty much said ORAS was an experiment

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>>28411698
>>28411483
;^)

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>>28413358
>Proper nouns in this 'guide' not capitalized
>Quotation marks to denote sarcasm
>probably isn't his second language, as opposed to probably isn't his first language
>All this incoherent rambling
>alot
>inbetween
>talking patterns
>against a brick wall as opposed to with a brick wall
>all this autism
Richard, please stop trying to make yourself into a meme. No one finds you entertaining or noteworthy. Please just kill yourself so we can all fap to anime in peace.

>>28413063
>meteorite in OR/AS contained Megastones
What?

>>28413624
Thats why Im making this guide, it's to make it easier to spot his autism, feel free to add some shti so we can recognise him better

>>28413646
The one that crashed into Hoenn and created the Sootopolis crater. It's where the Megastones came from

>>28413358
The only impressive thing about his autism is that he seems to have screencaps of literally every line of text in the games, and knows exactly how to find them.

Sometimes I wonder if he is looking shit up, but he posts so quickly, so he must have it all on hand. Some of it is really out-there, too. Someone posted something completely random and obscure in that thread, and Richard quickly responds with related text to "prove" his own point further.

>>28413624
also I noticed mistakes in my typing, forgive me anon I was making this when I was sleepy

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does this girl matters at all in the lore?http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Emma

>>28413990
Not really. She has a connection as looker's partner in Kalos, but not much, if anything, else.

>>28413624
Fuck, this profile pic makes me laugh. Too bad if I ever use it autists would sperg. Except in here. Or comfy threads, I guess.

>>28413600
Yeah

>>28413990
I dunno. Did her arc feel unfinished?

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>>28414059
>profile pic
I just outed myself as a normie, whoops

>>28413686
What? No
That meteorite was a key stone


"A huge meteoroid, far greater than any before, struck the planet, boring deep into the ocean and leaving behind it a crater larger than any other. The land born of this event later become known as Sootopolis"

"The great meteoroid was the first of many disasters to befall humanity. When it punched into the planet, the land cracked beneath it, and a great welling of natural energy poured from beneath Hoenn. Thirsting for that energy, Primal Kyogre and Primal Groudon once again woke.
"The people had a wish—a memory from a thousand years before... They wished that the Legendary Pokémon clad in emerald light would appear again. The huge Meteorite that lay at the heart of Sootopolis gave off a boundless brilliance. In its brilliance, it resembled a vast and powerful Key Stone. And once again, Rayquaza descended from whence it came in the heavens. The people fell to their knees before Rayquaza and made a wish for salvation. As they did, a great change came over the Legendary Pokémon. It was enveloped in blinding light. As the light receded, they beheld a Rayquaza beyond all knowledge— a sublime figure, incandescent with overwhelming life force."

Megastones was created in Kalos 3000 years ago using the ultimate weapon, in Hoenn was created during ORAS when the nature energy hoarded by Groudon/Kyogre was released (remember that new megastones appears after that). Meteorites have mega-shit because the ultimate weapon shoot to the space before the ray descend to land.

Xerneas/Yveltal -> life-death-evolution energy -> megastones

(Zygarde ->) nature energy -> life-death-evolution energy -> megastones

Also nature energy powered primal reversion (maybe Z power too)

>Zinnia is part of a tribe called the Draconids, who trained dragons and were closely affiliated with them
>The only other known Draconid is her grandmother

>In Sinnoh, two generations earlier, there's an old woman called "Grandma Wilma" who will teach Draco Meteor to "well-trained dragons"

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>>28413990
She's got a superhero alter-ego along with Sina and Dexio, so she may show up in S/M seeing as they are.

I made the final version of the richard guide I'll post it in the next thread

>>28413990
>>28414050

She is actually, Looker, remember? The new Looker. If first Looker appears in Unova, why not the new one in Alola?

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>>28414089
prepare yourself.

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>>28413601
>Irminsul Teutoburg Forest

DUDE.
Okay, so I read up on this guy's pic, and it turns out its from Germanic Culture, specifically the Norse. Not only does its symbol stand for great strength, but also has connections to the Yggdrasil tree.

This could be a huge collection to Kalos.

Source for those interested:
http://englishnews.org/news-central/germanic-symbols/irminsul.html

>>28414840
IT ALL

I learn alot of stuff form these threads, never change lore fags

Some mood music for comfy detective work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkvbAOgEKLI

>>28414840
It all comes together, as have I.

>>28414221
I also know I'm a normie because I just love Pepe pictures

>>28414142
I really don't think the Masked Crusaders will make an appearance though. Except maybe an offhand comment about it.

>>28390630
Your grandmother is just a schizo.

>>28414137
I didn't even notice that, great catch

>>28391504
Underground is back?

>>28414137
HOW HAS EVERYBODY MISSED THIS?

MORE EVIDENCE OF INCOMING REMAKES

ZINNIA WILL BE A PROMINENT SIDE CHARACTER IN THEM

CHINESE LEAKER ALREADY SAID ZINNIA WOULD BE IN GEN 7

ITS ALL COMING TOGETHER

>>28416674
even the fucking "real leaks" leak mentioned zinnia and if she gets fleshed out more as a character then im all for it

>>28416674
I still think it's a bit of a reach to say that two characters with "Grandma" in their names/titles are the same person. Besides, there was no mention of anything like the Draconids in DPPt, as far as I can remember at least.

But if Zinnia is said to be within Gen VII, that would open a whole new can of worms...

>>28416839
True, but there's a very good chance they could retroactively make it so.

Like, "Hey, this is a grandma expert on Dragons. Zinnia said her Grandma was a dragon expert! Masuda, come help me write some dialogue to work Zinnia into this!*"

*Translated from moonspeak.

It's not the first time Game Freak has retroactively canonized something before. In the original G/S/C, Silver wasn't even remotely hinted as being related to Giovanni. Fans, and the Manga, ran with it. Game Freak made a nod to the idea in FR/LG, before completely making it Canon in HG/SS via the Celebi special event.

>>28416935
what if GF are secretly lurking these lore threads right now, deepest lore confirmed

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>>28416957
That would be very silly anon

We just don't know, haha

Why don't you keep coming up with more of these lore ideas? :)

>>28416935
Yeah, that could happen.

I'm just miffed that people are jumping immediately to "SINNOH CONFIRMED" before Sun and Moon get released.

I'm not trying to discourage the discussion, but I think we should wait until the latest games come out so we can form theories from the lore therein.

X and Y were dropping hints like bombshells, so we can expect Sun and Moon to do the same.

Can someone post Aether Foundations symbol?

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>>28396391
This is Delta Episodes symbol, think there could be any relations?

>>28417527
I say the collar is abit of a stretch so I'd remove those, the moons on her boobs are spot on though

>>28417527
I want to squeeze those moons

It really all does cum together, huh?

>>28417316

That's Rayquaza, so I highly doubt it.

>>28417218
see >>28393085

>>28417316
the Aether symbol looks a little similar, but that might be just a coincidence.

>>28414137

Hmmm...can't argue with that catch.

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>>28417316

It's the symbol on mega Rays forehead. Also looks like his new jaw things. That's what it was hinting at.

>>28417014
You can steal my ideas anytime

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>>28388668

Anyone know why everything is levitating as if there's no gravity when these two appear before traveling into the UB dimension?

>>28420680
Probably just to play up the ad.

>>28420680
They could both have minor gravitational properties.

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Do you guys remember the Aqua-Magma couple in ORAS? Well, they were also in Black and White, as far as I can recall.

>>28422907
You are correct, I was replaying B/W and B2/W2 recently, and I found the Aqua/Magma couple in Opulucid City (I think the same place you also find the retired HG/SS Rocket Grunt too).

Absolutely blew my fucking mind.

Has anyone brought up the whole Looker thing that may be possible?
>Looker is on the SS Anne
>It crashes soon after, explaining why it is never seen from again
>Washes up on Battle Resort
>Has no memory of said event

>>28389175
>arceus dies if it loses its plates
>in the games arceus' plates are found scattered in various locations around the region
So is Arceus dead?

>>28420680
It could be like the gravitational pull that the sun and moon has and maybe it effects the earth.

yfw the plot of Sun and Moon is that Aether wants to harness the energies of the Sun or Moon to use those powers to create god.

>>28423221

If the SS Anne appears during SM and Looker is on it that would certainly be a possibility.

>>28423430
>If the SS Anne appears during SM and Looker is on it that would certainly be a possibility.
No it wouldn't. That would be on the pretty silly assumption that S/M take place before OR/AS in the timeline.

>>28423221
This is a fantastic theory.

>>28423419
We still have to remember that despite games' universe and the anime's universe overlapping at a lot of points, there are some instances where they split off nearly completely. A good example of this is that in the games, there is no penalty for carrying Arceus around without a plate in your inventory, which goes against the anime's canon.

But, in an effort to reconcile the two, I think Arceus might have created the Hall of Origin as something of a contingency plan, to keep him alive in a stable environment until the plates get returned.

>>28403044
Lucifer also means lightbringer and he used to be an angel
Kusamine and Aether are associated with light and brightness
besides this white is also associated with death in some cultures
>like Japan

then there's Lusamine living on an artificial island
a kingdom she created for herself
>like Lucifer does in Paradise Lost
>"Here at least we shall be free; the Almighty hath not built here for his envy, will not drive us hence: Here we may reign secure, and in my choice to reign is worth ambition, though in Hell: Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven."

bump?

>>28426642
Yes

>>28392937
>summon the Ultra Beasts and use them for something.

Hugs. She wants to hug all the pokemon.

>>28423021
Icirrus City

Actually, I'm not sure if it was them. I suppose you could say retcons, but in BW2, they seemed to imply the other didn't know they were in each team. But come to think if it, that would be too convenient and ridiculous

>>28414137

I wouldn't be surprised if Game Freak actually retcons this to become true. Maybe all the Draco Meteor tutors are migrant Draconids - they tend to live fairly remotely, halfway up a late-game route or something.

Maybe other characters such as Kalos's Drasna, who comes from Sinnoh, will be connected to Dragons and Draconid lore as well. Cynthia and her grandmother too, even. Cynthia's grandmother knows loads about the myths surrounding Dialga and Palkia.

However, the anime expands Cynthia's grandmother and makes her a Professor instead, though this is easily retconnable/not relevant to the games.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Celestic_Town

tl;dr This town in north Sinnoh could practically be a Draconid enclave.

>>28428236
yay

>>28390403
"The old shit" is from like, the 50's.

Wicca is a relatively new religion. To be Wiccan you have to have apprenticed under one of the original teachers. Neo Wicca was created is just to get around that rule, so anyone could practice it.

It's really just a hodge podge of older pagan practices laced together.

>>28390630
Witchcraft =/= Wicca.

Wicca is a religion. Witchcraft is a practice. You can literally be apart of any religion (or none) and practice "witchcraft".

>>28420680
Not really the rocks, but I'd speculate Solgaleo has some sort of levitating power or can at least jump very long distances as to get around the region. Pretty stupid if the legendary of a region is confined to only one part of it.

>>28398929
>english is probably isn't
>alot

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Supposing the spot between Solgaleo and Lunala is reserved for the third legendary of their trios, what could the three pairs of circles on the outer big circle even be? Lati@s? Darkrai and Cresselia? Mew and Mewtwo? Nothing at all because only the middle circles/triangles have any meaning?

>>28430825
I already corrected those mistakes anon, it was a late night.

>>28430998
Probably Darkrai and Cresselia and Lati@s, but not Mewtwo. He was created by humans, not Arceus.

>>28430998
>>28431453
Darkrai and Cresselia, lati@s, mew and maybe hoopa or Heatran since it was made at the same time as dialga and palkia.

>>28431558
Possible, but does Heatran have any place in Sinnoh's mythos? Or any mythos, for that matter?

>>28431721
It's meant to represent the earths core

>>28431721
Shaymin could also be a good choice

>>28431453
>>28431558
It could be the six all-100 cute mythicals

>>28432319
Ooh, that's a good guess.

>>28432319
>mew
>Celebi
>Jirachi
>manaphy
>victini
What's the 6th one?

>>28432606
Shaymin?

>>28412159
>>28411939

>English trailers are shorter and generally have far less music

Why is this allowed?

>>28433126
What I noticed is that the American trailers get to the news immediately rather than showing more of it like the Japanese trailers, presumably to cover as much topics as they can in a shorter amount of time. Practical, for sure, but not as effective.

Hey, can anybody translate the most recent release on the Japanese channel? Not the commercial, but this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR1ssSZfoGY

>>28433736

Being more practical is no excuse for cutting the Gladion, Aether, and UB themes. It's really jarring to hear that cheery music as the chimera comes out.

>>28434350
True. But again, they were going for coverage, not presentation.

>>28434406
not the same anon but why not both? it's clearly better.

>>28434559
I'm not too sure, but I think I have a guess:

Japanese advertising is different than USA advertising in that they try to make said ads memorable through spectacular/strange execution, as opposed to the US making deals more appetizing by describing them further. Thus, the Japanese trailers have more flair to them because of their audience.

>>28414110
>Zygarde the broken one is responsible for Z moves, mega-evolution, primal reversion and synchro
>Zygarde literally screwed up metagame

>>28435881
>Can be beaten by one of the otherwise most mediocre types

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>>28435927

The silhouette behind Iris in BW2 is the Original Dragon's silhouette

>>28436616
Pic? im interested

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Comfy thread lads, also let us remember the thread that started this lore general train.

>>28301724

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>>28438696
Can we get this thread train, like, permanently archived or something? We need to keep track of how many of our theories got proven right.

>>28439893
It'll happen one day

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Just took a look at the Japanese site for S&M, and apparently Zygarde is indeed recognized as the Third Legendary, or at least another legendary in the games.

>>28441592
marshadow fags on suicide watch?

>>28441718
Still debatable. Zygarde is still part of the Yggdrasil trio, so if it was the Third Legendary, it'd be the first to be so in two different trios.

Despite this, it's still likely for it to be the Third, what with these findings: >>28398528

>>28441718
Marshadow = my mom's Magearna counterpart
roughly speaking

new bred?

>>28441824
>the first to be so in two different trios

Arceus is master of Dragon trio and Lake trio.

>>28441887
Working on it.

>Aqua and Magma enrage the super-ancient Pokemon
>no Zygarde
>Cyrus attempts to control Giratina to reset the Universe
>no Zygarde
>Ghestis trying to take over the Unova region with the Tao Trio Pokemon
>no Zygarde
>Lysandre threatening to cause a mass extinction event
>no Zygarde

literally the worlds worst protector, he has kids and another big green lizard do his job for him.
yveltal could do a better job.

But think of it this way: if all that happened and Zygarde didn't show, some REALLY fucked-up shit has do go down in SM.

>>28442238
Shit, meant to reply to >>28442021

>>28442238
aka the Ultra beasts

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>>28391733
Now I remember where I've seen that before.

BRAVO GAMEFREAK.

>>28413990
Had we gotten a Z or an XZ YZ version i'm 100% sure she would be the champion

>>28442398
OH SHIT

>>28442238
>UE threaten all space-time tissue
>Zygarde save the Pokemon reality

>>28442478
*UB

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>>28430998

Arceus only created 6 Pokémon in total.

New thread:
>>28442186

Posted the notes in >>28398446, >>28398498, and >>28398528, as well as some others.

>>28442530
For future reference, THIS is the Richard mentioned in >>28398929. DO NOT REPLY TO HIM. Just hide his posts by IP and move on.

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>>28442733

???...ok