/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General #2

the thread we deserve

gross thread for gross shitposters

>unity """""""programmers"""""""
holy SHIT

>>183754996
Is unity even programmable?

>>183754996
>unity
>programming
Shitposter please, unless you're a dev working on the engine itself, you're not programming shit with scripts.

>>183754996
>>183755056
??

Do you know what a programmer is?

>>183755229
Yes, I am one, that's why I'm asking how is unity programmable, is it some kind of addon script, is it modular so that you can code on some high level language like C# or is it full source code, that's what I'm asking, dumbass.

>>183755861
>t. """"programmer""""

>>183755861
>Yes, I am one
No, you are not.
You don't even have a game.
You're just a shitposter wasting everyone's time.

Reminder
>Amateur Game DESIGN General

Nobody here is a programmer, they've all become designers using engine editors.

>>183747120
>>183747120
post some pics/video of what you have so far

>>183757193
I can tell by this post this anon will never make it.

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Unity will dominate the world of gamedev

>>183757719
Popular != Good

>>183757856
is that what you tell yourself when you look at your sales

This is a bad thread full of hate.

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Alright, this is looking good.
what do you guys think?
i guess i'm gonna make a game out of this,
and possibly kickstart it because free money and shits.

Also, point me a way to learn musics so i can compose one.
or at the very least teach me how to make sound effects.

>>183758096
Tell me all about your hit game which has sold so much thanks to the power of Unity.

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>>183758140
Bitterness is just in our nature.

>>183758192
i like your pixel art if that is your art, but i think your bullets are coming out backwards.

Can we please talk about Unity 2017.1? It's better now guys.

>>183758696
yeah it's my own art,
and the perception is probably wrong too, but who cares.
a programmer can't draw for shit anyway.

And the bullets ain't coming out backwards.
that's how they look,
it's supposed to be a rectangular shape.
and i added a tail for it, so it looks like the tail is sharper.

>>183758945
I'm already enjoying 2017.2.

Gonna make the next Skyrim desu

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Other thread seems dead, so I'll post it here too.

I spent way too long (like 2 days) modeling and rigging a first draft of the character for my game.

But whatever, I got it workable. Gonna make some key poses to block shit out better.
Also just feels nicer to use a real character instead of a capsule/box even when greyboxing everything else.

>>183759651
The next disappointingly lobotomized and casualized sequel to a once great series? Don't get too ahead of yourself there anon.

>>183756467
I have a game, but I don't usually do games, retard, gamedevving is not the only sphere of programming, actually it's far from the most popular.

well my progress is all bug-stomping, so I guess I'll post this:
-- FIXED erroneous collision check calls when falling
-- FIXED erroneous scrolling when stuck between an enemy and a hard place
-- FIXED erroneous collision checks when rubbing up against the edge of the map

>>183761016
>I have a game
No you don't.

>gamedevving is not the only sphere of programming
So you're not even a gamedev, just a nodev wasting our post count. Get out.

>>183758946
I'd recommend you learn how to draw before trying to animate anything to begin with but
>programmer

>>183758354
tell me about any indie game that has sold thanks to the engine.

nobody cares what game an indie is using

>>183762171
about i tell you games that HASN'T sold thanks to the engine?

protips:
it's related to Unity

>>183762234
some successful games are powered by unity, its all relative to the dev doing the game

>>183761519
i have a game, but /agdg/ branded me as a whodev, cause I haven't posted progress, so I won't repost it again

>>183762643
if you're a whodev,
then you don't belong here.
kindly fuck off for your own sake

>>183762643
then why are you even here

>>183762783
cause I am ocassional on agdg, I just haven't posted progress, but would post progress on my next game

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>>183763063

> want to shill my game
> haven't posted progress
> 'I will post progress on my next game I promise, just buy this one k'

AGDG doesn't play games. You are wasting your time trying to shill here.

>>183762314
>its all relative to the dev doing the game
Wrong. Unity is inherently flawed and those flaws cannot be easily fixed because closed source.

>>183763404
I didn't want to shill my game anymore, since whoever in agdg can buy a game anyway. I just argued with that fag that I have a game, I've posted it once and I won't post it again. That fag that thinks programming is only for games and it's something special to program games.

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Is it possible to create a timer for a timer in Unreal? Or are there alarms like in Gamemaker?

I want to check a boolean variable every 0.01 seconds for 4 seconds. If that boolean is false I want it to do something. If it is true then I want the 4 seconds to reset back to 4.

I'm trying to make rechargeable shields. Right now in pic-related when the shield takes damage, it delays for 4 seconds and then recharges rapidly back to full. But if I take damage during those 4 seconds of delay, it doesn't keep track so it just recharges back to full even if I took damage just 1 second before it started to recharge automatically. I want that delay to reset the moment I take damage even during the delay.

>>183764697
can't you just make it everytime ur hit, set isHit to true, and countdown to 4?

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>unity is not programmable
http://jetfistgames.com/portfolio/tiled-forward-plus-rendering
>replaced rendering pipeline
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/79454
>replaced shadows
https://forum.unity3d.com/threads/segi-fully-dynamic-global-illumination.410310/
>replaced GI
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/7135
>replaced animation system
https://github.com/sschmid/Entitas-CSharp
>replaced ECS

can your engine do ANY of these?

>>183764868
>countdown
First time hearing this term. How would I reset it back to 4 in the middle of the countdown? Is it another variable or is it an actual timer/alarm function in the engine?

>>183764697
why would you need another timer for that
if you take damage, at any point in time, set the timer to 0 and start counting, if the timer fills to full, start recharging the shields.

>>183765062
This is what I would like to do, but I'm coming from GameMaker so I don't even know how to access this function/feature or what it was even called. In Gamemaker they were called alarms but googling it for unreal didn't bring up anything. But now I have an idea of where to look. Thanks.

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>>183764697

You need to sort out the logic of your system, because you got it backward.

> if shield == shield max
> shield full -> do nothing
> else
> if last damage taken < 4 seconds
> shield not full -> do nothing
> else
> recharge shield

Don't need another timer. Just check for damage in the last four seconds. If there there wasn't any, recharge.

>>183764917
Don't unreal and godot come with full source?

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Any ideas on how to do platformer/metroidvania with a party?

>>183765336
have fun learning 200000 lines of spaghetti code to do something there is a nice clean well documented API for in unity.

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>>183765291
There was a plan to add this feature to the aggydaggy tools site, but the anon managing it disappeared.

>>183765276
Thanks, but I've got a long way to go before I can translate your post directly into blueprints. I have no idea how everything works yet, I'm still copying beginner tutorials and can only make minor adjustments to them for now.

>>183765423
Godot also literally just allows c++ extensions. You're right though that Unity has a far better ecosystem surrounding it. All I know is that I couldn't wrap my head around making a game in Unity and I can wrap my head around making a game in Godot. Its like in Godot no matter what it is I know what I'm looking at. When I watch a tutorial for making a 2D game in unity its like

>import this model with meshes, kinematic body 2D, apply this red marterial etc etc.
>Oh our scenes camera is here let me zoom out so I can show you this orthographic view.
>Time to load up this external code editor
>here's the code split into a million different namespaces and Unity specific syntax, you also need to make sure everything you use has all the components it needs to be useful.

In Godot everything just feels so much better to use for me and its all part of one package. You want a button that has a texture?
>TextureButton, you can apply a texture if you want but the button is fully renderable and functional without one.
>How do I use my own texture. oh theres a texture dropdown, okay I guess I just import a texture and something like a simple png if fine.
>But my button doesn't do anything!
>Oh apply events, ahhh I see, on_press probably does what I want, and on_hover also does what it says I bet too!

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This is fun.

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>>183765407
pic-related. Have them hooked together with you or even make it like sidescroller sonic games where they just follow you until you tag them in like in Donkey Kong Country. Or maybe control them separately like in GTA V or Resident Evil 0 and just reload the area you left them in when you switch to them. Have them share inventories to avoid the backtracking slog most metroidvanias force you through.

>>183766207
>that sword draw animation
yum

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>>183765786

Blueprints are a mistake.

You will suffer long and hard, and make little progress if you don't learn how logic works first. The blueprint you posted shows your lack of logical thinking, mainly due to lack of experience with logic systems. Blueprints won't teach you this.

Stop playing around with UE4 and read this first:
https://mitpress.mit.edu/sites/default/files/6515.pdf

Also, figure out your systems on paper first before putting them to code. Even experienced programmers working on new systems figure things out first before touching a keyboard.

This will greatly increase your efficiency.

>>183766225
I could live a thousand years and still never understand why people love Sonic.

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>>183766145
>when I watch a tutorial
found the problem

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My sudoku game is coming along. I can now generate easy puzzles.

Generating harder puzzles will be a struggle since a lot of advanced techniques rely on very strict definitions for rows and columns. I might work on the backdrop instead so that I can start advertising early.

>>183765057
I have no idea what's the blueprint trying to do.
but here's my way of doing a recharging shield
use a float timerCountdown
if(getHit)
{ timerCountdown = 4;}
if(timerCountdown <= 0 && shield <= 100%)
{
shield recharges
}

if(timerCountdown > 0)
timerCountdown -= deltaTime;

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why the fuck are there two AGDGs god damnit

these were posted last thread and i didnt see them till thread was dead but

it wasnt just animation; since I had to do animation AND modelling I had no time to do anything else and I was extremely pressured to put out animations for characters while i was modelling other ones which put almost all of the artistic workload on myself

when i realized we needed ~1000 frames of animation per character and at least one character fully complete just for a substantial presentable prototype, I wasn't up to the task.

the new project gives me much more artistic freedom and leniency and I can focus more on modelling while I produce animations that can be reused as placeholder for every developed character.

it's also much more difficult to make a competent fighting game as an indie project considering the standards.

this isnt an issue of me hopping genres and giving up easily, it was just that we picked the wrong genre to start with

>>183766391
I hear you. I'd rather code everything like in GameMaker. But I just want to whip out a 3D game asap right now, been procrastinating for way too many years. No more distractions.

I'm already trying to juggle Blender, texturing in Photoshop, Unreal, and beginner C++, if I keep getting distracted by other stuff I'm never going to finish a game. I still need to go back and reteach myself algebra 1, so I'm not going to be learning proper programming logic or computer science anytime soon. I'm out of time.

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>>183767262

Nigga, you 'aint out of nothing.

1MA is a meme. Choose a specialty and find a team. You are either a Manager, Programmer, Artist or Marketer. Focus on one and bring that to the table for a project.

Tell me about yourself, what are your qualifications, experience and skills.

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>>183754508
> waste a human adulthood learning C#
> all the cool kids use Python
> don't know how to into Blueprint so I can't get /v/buxx
> LUA is for pedos
> Ruby_on_Rails is for trannies

We lost sight of God when we moved from BASIC

Parappa the Rapper is a silly game

>>183767820
but the driving lesson song is so damn good

>>183767776
Every language aside from Assembly/C/C++ is a waste of time.

>>183767757
>1MA is a meme
Tell that to Stardew Valley Dev, RRPS dev, Risk of Rain dev, Cavern Kings dev, etc.

IT'S TOO FUKING HOT FUUUUUUUUUUUUK FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK

>>183768091
>RRPS dev
you win, I was triggered

>>183767820
The skunk over here will bring you luck
The pump over here comes with a truck

>>183768036
>Assembly
>not a waste of time

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>>183768305
> not wanting to learn how to bully people

>>183767820
it's also a silly anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLoyvnNGwD8&list=PLNxVGC8CbRu4-TgycMWgEM8YD05FdMd6N

>>183768091
Mediocre. All of them. They have been successful but they are mediocre game. Is your goal mediocrity?

>>183768091
You forgot to divide this number by all the attempted 1MA games. After doing this, you'll come to quite a different conclusion.

>>183769321
>waaahh wahhh i don't like it so it's bad
>Wahhhh

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>>183768091

You want to sit in a basement for 6 years making a game? Go right ahead.

Game dev is extremely time consuming and having a team makes it that much quicker bringing a product to market. Darkest Dungeon with a team of 6 took 4 years of development from start to finish.

For a single person to bring a game like Darkest Dungeon to market would take more than 2 decades.

Risk of Rain is extremely simple in its design and execution. The majority of games on AGDG are overscoped compared to RoR. Unless you are reskinning a tutorial or completed game, development is going to take 5+ years.

If you are doing a 3D game you are going to need a team. No two ways about it.

welp, LD is filled with shit themes AGAIN

>>183769743
>Darkest Dungeon with a team of 6 took 4 years of development from start to finish.
And it's fucking trash and any competent person could've solo'd that in a year.

>>183769743
>project wingman

>>183769853
this.
i can't believe it's made by a 6 man team but still took them 4 years.
they better be not doing it full time and 4 of them are slacking most of the time.

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Have any decent games been written in python? It's all I know. Should I bite the bullet and learn C#?

>>183769965
pygame is pretty basic and you could get away with quite a lot with it.
Down to you if you make something decent. Language doesn't matter as much as AGDG will make your believe

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>>183769965
Both of those are for plebs. If you really care about being a game designer and making a good game, then you will have to choose the language that will give you the wings to pursue your love. Do C and then C++ if you love game design. Do C# or JS if you don't love it.

>>183769965
write in python
repeat as you want:
benchmark and identify bottlenecks
drop to C at those points

Redpill me on roguelikes

>tfw no (You)s from yesterday

:(

@183770448
:^)

>>183770448
What was the post?

>>183770517
I can't tell you, I have self-respect.

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>>183769936

It's not a game. It's a tech demo. Game constitutes game systems. Just flying a plane around is not a game.

>>183769853
>>183769961

Fuck off. It's a unique concept. There was a great deal of research and development required.

This is what you fuckers don't get. Original games take development time. All your fucking castlevania clones, tutorial reskins and shmups aren't new or original. All the groundwork is done for you. All the ideas have been developed for you. You are just putting the pieces together in a different way and calling it something new.

This place is just amateur hour. You guys have no fucking idea. Talk big all the time and show 'progress', but it's only going to be forgotten a few months from now when you lose motivation and drop the project.

Amateur doesn't mean being shit, it means learning how to be good. Stop acting like you know everything, just fucking learn how to do things right.

>>183769743
There is nothing in Darkest Dungeon that could not have been produced in Flash over the course of a month or two minus the kino art.

This /real suicide/ hours ment for true autism poststing

>>183770585
>it's not a game
that's not an argument

>>183770585
tl;dr

shut the fuck up nodev, keep sucking off your fav indies

>>183770585
Where's your game?

>>183770585
are you looking for an artist?

>>>/biz/pgdg

>>183767757
>>183769743
>>183770585
it would be a lot easier to take you seriously if you didn't attach anime to every post
thank you

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>>183770618

Where you getting your ideas from? Thin air?

Stop being fucking dumb.

>>183770659

It certainly is.

>>183770660

Pretty much.

>>183770664

I don't have my 'own' game yet, because I have never headed a project myself. I've always worked for someone else.

>>183770390
They are games like this one
http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/download/rogue/

>>183770908
>I've always worked for someone else.
Prepping your wife's bull is not work.

>>183770908
Get back to me when you have your 'own' game.

>>183770585
You can literally, and I mean this in every sense of the word, recreate Darkest Dungeon in Twine, with extreamley minimal effort.

It is a visual novel with a calculator running in the background.

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>>183770908
it isn't. it's completely subjective. you can randomly attach it to any game brought up as an example.

>tech demo
>tech demo
>not a game
>I meant a good game :^)

>I've always worked for someone else
fucking hilarious you god damned loser. is this your big plan for agdg? everyone just goes and "finds a team". you sound exactly like a stupid baby boomer telling people to just "find a job". collabs almost never fucking work. a lot of people here have 0% experience or knowledge starting out, what team, even if one existed, why would they want the help of a total noob? No. the only way to make a game here is to make it yourself. If you have some other source of help good for you but there is no such thing as "just getting a team".

fuck off and fucking kill yourself you retarded nodev.

>>183770908
> ideas
> value of any sort here of all places

How the dick did you even stumble onto this sub-chan?

1MA is perfectly fine for pretty much everything i've seen posted here. you don't need a team for a pixel platformer or a simple 3d game.
really, you fucking don't.

you also probably shouldn't be banking on the fact that your game sells like stardew valley. it's probably not going to happen.

>>183769741
Your mediocre attempt at fanboy shitposting is not going to change truth.

Unlike what you think people can have different opinions.

the anime 'Monster' has ruined all of my progress

>>183771401
Define "simple 3d game".

>>183771501
>Unlike what you think people can have different opinions.
yeah, so there's people that think those game is great too.
what makes yours valid and theirs invalid?
and what makes your opinion the Standard of those games??the fucking "truth"??

don't contradict yourself when you're arguing.
you retarded shitass faggot

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>>183713662
>wait a second i could be horribly wrong but are you the anon that helped me figure out how to program castlevania-like stairs right when i started?
Late reply, but yes, same anon and same stairs, just changed main character's sprites and polished some stuff between those posts and the current ones.
I started cleaning the stairs code recently, to make the stairs work closer to Castlevania's ones and to get rid of a couple of bugs I found.

>>183771959
bokube?

>>183772019
all this castlevania talk made me go play CV3

what's easiest program to record webms?

>>183772207
webmcam

>>183772207
Sharex

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>>183767757
>>183769321
>>183769731
>>183769743
>>183770585
>>183770908
t. nodevs trying to discourage potential devs out of spite and whodevs waging psychological warfare to supress competition in the egg

Good thing I've read some Sun Tzu in my lifetime.

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>>183772019
> that .gif
Dats dat good shit rite there

>>183770585
I love darkest dungeon, but the core gameplay is literally just a JRPG with some neat tweaks. Graphics aside, you could probably make the game in fucking RPGmaker with a little scripting.

I love your game

>>183767757
>>183769743
>>183770585
>animeposter
>terrible opinions
Like clockwork.

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Been messing with the mecha game I never finished. I try to find how to make the game fun. The mecha idea died because I can't into ideas. The game is currently more like test ground for me to try all kinds of stuff and just hope it turns out good.

few changes:
>no more mouse/right stick aiming
>no more pilot/mecha, just space trooper

>>183772978
Might as well go full Metroid clone.

Anyone could have made a Jackson Pollock painting. But nobody did until he came along.

>>183773068
I just need to figure out gimmick that works with the game. Like Metroid has the ball form that's used pretty creatively in the games and Axiom Verge has the whole corruption thing.

Pls help me anons.

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>>183772393
Thanks. Have something more recent.
>>183772143
Do it, anon. Castlevania talk here when Helleton was being made (and Helleton itself obviously) were exactly the reason why I started working on this again.

>>183773190
Really digging those graphics. What engine? I'd like to play that.

>>183772978
I'm cool with you going for a traditional metroidy game, but make your protag that girl again

>>183772978
dude why

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>>183773229
Thanks, I'm using Game Maker. I think I'm still a little far from releasing a demo, but I hope I can get to that point soon.

>>183773727
I'm just testing stuff, don't get mad. I still have the mecha game project files and all.

I'm just experimenting stuff.

>>183773154
Maybe some sort of suit that can be left standing somewhere? With some remote control features for puzzling?

>>183773787
that's okay, I'm fine with whatever direction you take the game to.
I just really liked the dynamic you had with the mecha/girl pilot combo.

>>183773154
Pro ideas guy here:
>You collect fallen parts like arms and shits off of robots and plaster them on your own body
>Grapple beam shenanigans
>Zero-G areas where everything is fucked
>Puzzles based on temporary boosts from shit like the eco fountains in Jak

Thats all I got sorry, hope that helped my man.

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>>183773190
how much lore will be revealed about the culture and origins of the fishmen

>>183773882
>You collect fallen parts like arms and shits off of robots and plaster them on your own body
This could totally work

>>183773882
>>183774119
Fallout 4: Automatron

Here's a game. I'm thinking of a real number between 0 and 1.

>>183774236
2.64

>>183774141
Is garbage, what's your point

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>>183772978
Here's same exact project with mecha and gril pilot.

>>183774304
Segmentation Fault (core dumped)

What will pixel artists do now that ms paint is dead?

>>183774337
clickbait there is no grill just a genderless protag

>>183772978
It's great you ditched the mouse aim but I thought being able to leave the mecha could be an interesting mechanic. You just gotta make mechanics of the robot and the pilot different enough.

>>183774562
Did pixel artists ever use paint?
I thought it couldn't even export transparency.

>>183774337
How the fuck could you think it's a good idea to ditch this? This is gold man, it looks amazing. Tons of mechanics potential. Also a risky "double jump" by hopping out of the mecha?
You should reconsider, this looks way more fun than the previous webm.

>>183774675
It's probably made in Unity or Godot, I'd ditch it too t.b.h.

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if you're playing on a board using hex tiles, does the orientation of the tiles matter for gameplay?

>>183774835
>hexagons
>orientation

>>183773884
You will get to know them to a personal level.
I wanted to post that pic of the merman posting on 4chan but seems I don't have it saved on this pc

how many combo trees should an action game like dmc have per weapon?
i have the option to add potentially infinite combos using a single button pretty easily right now, but i'm not really sure how many is too many.

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Work continues on the arm cannon, I think this is shaping up to be fun and relevant despite the incredibly powerful sword.

https://my.mixtape.moe/vsfikf.webm

>>183774665
I think most of us probably did when we started to get into it, until we discovered photoshop or wahtever we use now.
I personally started by copying sprites on a squared paper.

>>183775303

Thicc

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>>183775362
He's only 5'2

>>183775404
>thicc
>short stack

Go on

>>183775481
Uhh, he's overly chivalrous, naive, strong as fuck, and his arm cannon is actually a trapped demon who's ass he kicked.
He also has a kobold friend that's only two feet shorter than him and a warforged buddy that stands at 7 feet but I have yet to get either of those guys in a playable state

>>183775560
the kobold better be a cute scalie girl

>>183775781
He's a mouthy former thief that'll use a crossbow and explosive flask weapons, along with an enchanted saber for melee stuff.. I don't do the waifu bait thing but I guess I've unintentionally made several husbandos.

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If you reply to this post with a 5+ characters word I'll add it as an in-game password to unlock computers

no vulgarities

>>183775941
trump

>>183775941
hillary

>>183775941
swagmemeyoloisistrumppepe

>>183775941
anime

>>183775941
moemoekyun

>>183775941
wasspord

>>183775941
Pa55w@rd

>>183775969
>>183775985
>>183775986
>>183775990
>>183776012
>>183776035

also, it must be a word in the dictionary

preferably science-themed

sorry guys

>>183775941
hewillnotdivideus

>>183776095
unity

>>183776095
unreal

>>183776095
aw fine, photosynthesis

>>183775941
hardoncollider

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>>183776095
>it must be a word in the dictionary

>>183775941
transgender

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>>183776172
>hardoncollider

>>183776095
pedohysteria

>>183774835
congruent hexagons

Do you have your own personal API?

>>183776095
monoid

>>183771401
I'm part of a team of 2 people making a pixel platformer. It works alright, hoping to make a few dozen thousand sales in my fantasies.

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>>183758192
>Risk of mecha

For music you will need:
>A digital audio work station
I sugest LMMS if you want to not spend money.
FL studio is fine too.
Guitar pro if you want to be able to rip off music you like( Tux guitar freeware option)
These come loaded with a most of midi effects
>Some theory knowledge
Get a book on musical theory, i took guitar and composition in France so i cant really recommend a book first hand thats now in frog eater runes.
>An instrument
You can get a decent little usb keyboard for 20ish bucks. This will help you compose your music since you can hear it first hand.

And a tip. Good artist copy great artists steal. Draw fags call it references i call it plagiarism lawsuits. It wonts stand up in court unless is 4 bars or more even then you can call it a sample or parody

Listen to some lesser know and or very old bands, steal their shit. No ones gonna know and its a decent shortcut. Godspeed hopoo

>>183776907
your knowledge of copyright is shitty
maybe you're a shitty person too who knows

>>183776907
>You can get a decent little usb keyboard for 20ish bucks
Any brand/model you recommend?

>>183775941
ganymede
meatspace
laika
iseenogoduphere

>>183776907
but i don't know music at all.
like i can't even play a guitar or anything.
maybe the recorder, but that's not the point.
I can't even play heaven rhytm because i can't even get the tempo.
and i hate the coin tossing game so much.
I don't think i can "steal" any musics besides of cropping them out directly.

I was hoping there's a cheating way to get musics.
like before this, i used a random music generator.
it works okay but i can only keep on randoming musics until i found one suitable, and eventually they all sound almost the same because they follow a certain format/rhytm

>>183777042
>maybe you're a shitty person too

Your on 4 chains. What do you think

And i've been to court before.

Bottom line is you don't want to get sued. Even if you win, The battle will drain you of money resources and time.

>>183777209
Composing != Playing
I'm a good guitar and bass player and I can't compose worth shit.
My friend's worse at playing but he's way better at composing because he spent more time studying that.

>>183777304
so u meant to tell me,
if i can hum a music, i should be able to compose one as well?

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>>183774337
HOLY SHIT ANON, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ?!

Keep it as a mech/pilot game, you madman ! This look and feels objectively better. Don't stray from a good concept like that !

Also, you want some ideas ? Here's some :
>only the pilot can fit in small passageways
>only the mech can take on the strongest ennemies
>you have to get out of your mech to reach to, and to crawl inside of tight spaces (ventilation shafts, etc), which will allow you to get to switches and/or puzzles unlocking the way for your mech
>make your pilot significantly weaker than his mech
>make the exploration all about getting out of your mech when needed, and getting back inside of it to fight dangerous opponents

Now write some backstory to justify it all, and publish your goddamn metroid-killer, already. I'd buy it, I'd play it, and I'm sure that I'm not the only one.

>>183777125
Midi to USB is the one thing in the universe that is truly universal. With blew my mind. So even whit a shitti one you'll be fine. If you want to go namebrank Casio, Roland and Yamaha are trusted. But the price goes up. I use a Casio. It was about 160 bucks a few years ago new. Now you could find it for 50$ used. Don't look for super old retro stuff. Hipsters drove the price of that shit way the fuck up. Used to be dirt cheap in the 90s

>>183777209
Shit son. Your game seemed decent figured you where some kind of willpower daemon. The best cheat way to get music is to pay someone to make it. It worked like this for centuries it really the only reason why we bothered to invent a way to write music.
This softwere is simple enough that you don't have to know how to physically play, or hold rhythm since it will do that for you. Still takes a bit of practice and experience to get it to sound right

>>183774337
Metal Slug???

>>183776095
pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

>>183777394
That's where music theory comes in. If I hum a melody or hear one and want to reproduce it, first I find the pitch of the first note, then I since I can recognize the intervals by ear everything comes very quickly.
Recognizing intervals is different from perfect pitch by the way. Perfect pitch is knowing which note is it. Interval recognition is knowing how many semitones of difference there is between two notes.

>>183777304
>Composing != Playing
This is true.
A lot of musician can't think up anything on their own
But i never met a composer who couldn't at least play one instrument, usually a keyboard or piano. Simply so they can riff out the melody out of their head, get it out there so they can actually see if its shit or not. But yeah at the end of the day. Composition is a separate skill that can be learned. But being able to play at least a bit helps a lot

>>183777785
it's also useful to know if a part you're writing is going to be a nightmare to play, if even possible, given the limitations of a certain instrument.

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>tfw went from science-themed to just greece-themed

>>183777668
too long sorry

>>183767262
>first game
>maybe even first program
>actual 3d
>unreal
>asap
no

>>183777452
Thanks for this post, this really gave me more motivation. I'll go back to the old project.

>>183758192
Learn whatever book you can about music theory, they're mostly the same anyway
Then use this shit to get your chords and melody https://www.hooktheory.com/hookpad/new
Then put it in a DAW

who wants to go for a walk

>>183778171
I do

>>183778171
who wants to go dev a game

>>183778171
Not thanks
Just came back from my morning run
Light shower rain, 20C.
If god is in the rain, I'm in heaven

>>183778280
nobody

>>183777452
he wouldve known to do these things already if he had listening to my suggestion to make the pilot smaller. the size difference is too subtle for mecha.
although once you do all those "ideas" its literally just a metal warriors clone.

sad panda

>>183778297
how come your games are shit if your ideas are "so great"

>>183777563
>This softwere
which software?
LMMS or FL studio or guitar pro?

I am going to make 2D Castlevania.

>>183771991
Are you so autistic you need people to explicitly point out that their opinions are subjective?
Yes, he made a judgement, retard. No game is objectively bad, isn't that implicitly obvious.

>>183773190
Why does moving cause stutter? Otherwise looks good.

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Guys, hear me out.

I know some of you guys like retro things and so you go with 4:3 resolutions, but if your game isn't the best or most attractive game in the world and you still want to make some money from it make sure it looks good in 16:9.

If you can't render at arbitrary aspect ratio and it's too late to make the game 16:9 you can at least put some borders around the game (like Super Game Boy) so that there's no black bars.

Keep devving.

>>183778679
>No game is objectively bad
wew lad

>>183778586
All of them. Every daw doesn't require you to be able to play shit, you just have to be able to write it.

>dropped a good project with potential
>doesn't want to make it open source for people to finish
fuck you, don't even show your shit if you're not planning to finish it attention whore

>>183778615
Please do

>>183776170
When I was in high school one friend of mine had a CD labeled "photosynthesis assignment" full of porn.

>>183778897
>Implying I want people to look at my shitty code

Lmao

>>183778701
Haven't checked yet, but is the first thing to fix on my to do list at the moment. I didn't have that issue before and I have been messing with player's speed recently so I probably fucked up something there.

>>183774337
Make the pilot smaller.
Did you ever play Front Mission Gun Hazard?

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>>183769743
>For a single person to bring a game like Darkest Dungeon to market would take more than 2 decades.
Core mechanics without art should be made in like a few months.

>>183758140
Toughen up.

If you cannot handle ribbing from other devs, the eventual public fanbase for your game will absolutely fucking destroy you overnight.

Think of it like a bootcamp, stop letting your feelings get hurt by 'hate' and 'negativity' and start trying to reverse the conditioning that teaches you to disregard or revile critics as haters. Man the fuck up.

>>183779265
>Copying something that already exists and not having to design anything yourself takes less time than making a completely new thing

Hmm

>>183769853
>And it's fucking trash
Wow what a shit opinion. What's stopping you then from making something similar and making a lot of money and fans?

Keep salty nodev.

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>>183779508
add a week or two of prototyping

are you allowed to put a link to your patreon in a google play app? from googling around it vaguely seems that it's not but the actual terms and conditions are ridiculously vague

https://play.google.com/intl/en/about/monetization-ads/
>Here are some examples of products not currently supported by Google Play In-app Billing:
>One time-payments, including peer-to-peer payments, online auctions, and donations.
ok, but what about linking to your patreon?

are you allowed to put a link to your patreon in an iOS app store app?

>>183779770
Stop being a greedy faggot, holy shit

>>183779770
Just have a link to your website with patreon link there googem.

>>183779848
it's not being greedy, the game is free, serious game development is not free, the user should have some way of supporting the developer financially

>>183779862
great idea anon

Okay time to make some progress

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>>183778132
>https://www.hooktheory.com/hookpad/new
>exporting requieres a Hookpad+ account
>mfw
at least they could tell you that before you got a melody you like there and you tried to save it for later

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>>183779473
Woah, just shut up already, you fucking waste of oxygen !

I mean, It's not like I agree 100% with your post, or something... anta baka

>>183779770
>googum 2.0

patreon was a mistake

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>>183778830
What do you think about my overlay

>>183780424
You still see the notes and chords, you could rewrite it in your program of choice easy.
Just saving a tab there is free.

>>183780561
Not him, but it looks comfy.

Why hasn't anyone remade Space Station 13 yet?

If you remade the engine to not be shit and generally improved the game and made it dirt easy to play it, you could easily attract a large userbase.

>>183774236
ten

>>183781089
SS13 is a major inspiration for my game

>>183781089
I'm going to make a 2D SS13

>>183781089
>Space Station 13
Because SS13 is literally online dwarf fortress. And I'm not yet insane enough to take on something of such scale alone.

>>183782772
>making the same game
retard

release a dumbed down version for casuals

the autists who are playing the real game will never play your remake anyway

Anyone know of a tutorial for making a level editor in Game Maker Studio?

Specifically one that will treat me like the retard I apparently am.

>>183780561
Do you have any concept art of the blonde paladin? I want to see her in more detail?

>>183783141
Afraid not, I don't actually know how to draw so no concept art.

I'll be making some higher res art for their special moves soonish though.

>>183783381
I see, I'll be waiting for those bigger art then. Keep it up.

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post'em boys

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Slow dev day today
Only got like 2 hours to do stuff and spent most of it planning
I got a basic damage system in, you can now punch little girls, but no death anim so they're just punching bags

Knockback and death animations will have to wait til next time I dev. Goodnight fellow aggy daggys

>>183783743
nice nier clone

>>183781089
there are a lot of dead SS13 clones

>>183783830
Floating companion is a Nanoha thing anon.

>>183783876
No anon you don't get it, Nier Automata invented the genre of girls fighting stuff in a third person perspective

>>183782068
>>183782050

What I want to see is a session based game which promotes player deception, backstabbing and paranoia.

Some games do this, but they're mostly confusing and obscure, or just plain unattractive (Town of Salem).

I've been trying to design a simple multiplayer system which involves heavy hierarchy and GoT-like situtations but it's fucking hard.

>>183783743
Oh this looks nice, I like the hit sparks.

>>183783830
more inspired by dragons dogma atm because i'm only 1 hour into nier, but yeah, lil' bit

>>183783876
this is the correct reference

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not sure if I posted this in the thread but here's a sword I played around with over the weekend too, took me all of saturday and sunday and I haven't even textured. I'm happy though since I basically never do modelling.

>>183784126
Seems too thick, but otherwise looks good.

>>183783743
>>183784126
Good looking shit, what are you making the game and models in? I've always wanted a symphogear/nanoha/precure game.

Does your protagonist use they/them pronouns and has an ambiguous race and gender?

>>183784524
>Symphogear Warriors game where you have to karaoke songs to maintain power

How is this not a thing?

>>183784524
Blender because it's free
Unity because I'm highly experienced in it

>>183784563
My main character is a masculine transphobic misogynistic white cis alpha male, and you can't pick a female character.

>>183784656
Female(female) or female(male)??

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>>183780561
make it like this isntead

>>183780561
>>183784870
yeah, and make it scroll

>>183784924
We earthbound now.

>>183780561
>>183784870
>>183784924
yeah, make it flash while you're at it

>>183784870
>>183784924
>>183785076
also rotate it, during all of the above

>>183785076
>>183785120
And flash images filled with racial slurs 1 every 60 frames

>>183784870
>>183785202
nah, straight up porn clips

for a tenth of a second

we Fight Club now

>>183785120

>>183784924
>>183784947
>>183785076
>>183785120

These suggestions aren't so bad but make sure that any of these effects don't distract the user during game play. (menu is fine)

My suggestion is to make it static or unnoticeably slow during game play.

>>183780561
Or just work on ur fukken game and leave UI for later.

So how do we feel about card games? Like uhh Magic, or Gloom? Hearthstone?

>>183785517
I've only tried hearthstone.
It was incredibly dull and boring.

>>183785517
I think they have the same problem as trying make a new MOBA or fighting game.

To a certain degree they need to be complex to be interesting, which introduces a learning curve, which requires a large/dedicated player base in order to form into a viable game, which a small indie game will struggle to amass with that initial wall. No one wants to spend their time learning a dead game that their friends aren't playing.

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>>183785517
This:
>>183785729

>>183785517
cards are an abstraction for the shittiness of real life. computers don't need them.

post dev music

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>>183785517
>>183785629
>>183785729
>>183785924
>>183785950
And this is why you put card games in your main game instead.
And if your main game is a huge hit,
you can proceed to make said card game a standalone version.

>>>/wsg/1797539

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>>183785517
I've played magic, but the only reason its fun is because i play it with friends. Commander is fun, moder forces you to spend a lot of money on it if you want to stay competitive. Hearthstone is just the latest wizards of the cost ripoff Blizzard pulled off. Gloom i haven't played. I've played gwent but its only popular since wicher 3 was so successful.

I think it would be hard to launch a card game without having a large player base already, and the market feels saturated.
Kinda like launching an MMO. WoW already has most of the players hooked, a budget of a star wars movie and is basically holding a monopoly. Unless you have something game changing don't bother, and for a small team, or one man, shit son its an uphill battle and you're Anakin Skywalker

>>183786401
https://youtu.be/OBwS66EBUcY

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>>183784304
EXTRA THICK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z4_bjyJ4EM

Do you agree with this, /agdg/?

>>183786894
jim is fat

>>183786928
I agree with this.

>>183786401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbJiRfIp_cU

>>183784595
You never went to karaoke? Unless you know every song by heart it's kinda impossible to pay attention to anything except the lyrics prompt.
I can't even look at the vocal guide when reading the lyrics, nobody would be able to play a game during that shit.

I just want to make a realistic, physics based swordfighting game.

>>183787112
just copy and paste jedi knight with swords instead of glowsticks

>>183787189
Tempting. It'd hard to figure out a good control system of how to orient the sword in 3d space.

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Why aren't you making progress right now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0

Any devs here tried finding sponsors for their web/mobile game? We found one, we signed the contract but haven't heard back from them. Are they too occupied with bigger games and our mail got lost? I thought prepayment would be better but the mailing process takes too damn long.
What was the discord channel? Someone said there were some anons there that knew about sponsorship processes.

>>183786894
Agree with what, exactly?
I don't give a shit about this dude or some steam forums or twitter rando thinks about any engine I would use. It doesn't matter.

>>183787438
Because I am reading about libraries

>>183786401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdWY1BAYFS0

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How are my enginedev-bros holding up? Just finished seperating all logic into a graphics engine and game engine. Next will be a physics engine, ai engine, audio engine.

>>183787438
I'm not making progress because every attempt at designing something ends up as a failure.

>>183787583
What's the point of making an engine if no one is going to use it (including you)?

>>183787438
Because I've been awake for nearly 3 hours so I deserve a nap.

>>183787102
The lyrics would fly on the screen in gigantic letters

>>183787438
Because I am trying to figure out how I want this thing's idle animation to look like.

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>>183787438
Because I'm taking a coffee break.
"Traditional" animation is so fucking hard. Like, holy shit.

>>183787914
>when you drink too much coffee and feel like you're phasing away from reality

>>183787679
shut up

>>183786894
Someone here said basically the same argument minus all the youtuber hurt feelings stuff and I agreed with that.
It makes the UE4 business model look so much better by comparison, for both Epic Games and the devs using their engine.

>>183787438
Because I don't have a game right now.

I'm just lurking until I can settle on an idea with feasible scope.

>>183787914
That looks good anon i like it. post more

>>183788000
how abut u shut up and go have your own /aedg/?

>>183787842
Yeah that's how karaoke works. You won't be able to see anything other than lyrics until you completely learn the song.

>>183788169
how do you even trigger yourself this much

Has anyone ever programmed AI with behavior trees? I'm trying them out for the first time in my current prototype, they seem powerful. I can't decide at what level I should implement tasks in code vs what level I should have a bevaior tree to do it. Should I have a tree that describes how a character follows a path for example? Or should I write a task for that.

Redpill me on why I should post progress in a thread made for shitposting?

>>183788346
because your progress is shit as well

>>183788328
trigger?
got you, you sjw scum.
i'm merely pretending to be retarded so i can expose you.
we don't welcome your kind here.

>>183787679
Because I don't gamedev to actually make a game dingus, I gamedev to fill the long empty days of sitting alone in my house and avoid having to accept that there's nothing in my life I'm really passionate about. Gamedev isn't a hardship to endure for some end goal, the process of struggling endlessly to make a car accelerate properly IS the reward - we must imagine Sisyphus as happy.

>>183786894
He's right that Unity has an image problem.

But the way to correct it isn't policing what you can or can't do with the engine. They need to invest in making some high quality games in the engine and proudly displaying the Unity logo while advertising them.

UE3 had a lot of garbage but Epic clearly showed what the engine was capable of with Gears of War 1-3. UE4 has the same thing with Paragon and Unreal Tournament 4. Unity has a few third party games like Hearthstone that are ashamed of the Unity name.

>>183787785
What are you? a cat?

>>183779196
Probably a rounding issue related to automatic view following.
http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showtopic=534101
That thread solved the issue for me when I encountered it.

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>>183788039
Thank you. But this is quite literally my first try at animating something like that. Well, second one, if I count pic related. Sorry, but you'll have to be patient to see some more.

>insert loli wearing the "please be patient I have autism" cap.gif in here

>>183786894

Its only an image problem for shovelware developers

>>183788510
Stopping running ads on facebook showing how easy it is to make shovelware would be a good idea too but they obviously won't stop that since it's profitable.

>made in unity personal edition
>into the recycle bin it goes

>>183788749

I have some criticism to offer: the animation doesn't seem to be 'telling' me anything. Like all of the movement seems like movement for the sake of movement. It doesn't look natural and it doesn't really tell me anything about the character

>>183786401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLpou8dGf3Y&t=650s

>>183788648
Thanks, I will look into that.

>>183789371
>expect garbage
>actually get good music

heh

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>>183789309
>>183789309
Well you see, this animation is a statement about the ephemeral nature of our occidental societies.
Ever since I was a student, I have been fascinated by the endless oscillation of the zeitgeist, which I tried to express here through the nervosity of this poor little pixelated dinosaurian.
As its tail raises, what starts out as yearning soon becomes manipulated into a tragedy of power, leaving only a sense of decadence and the prospect of a new reality as it falls flat yet again. And as this spatial phenomena become distorted through emergent and personal practice, the viewer is left with an insight into the inaccuracies of our world.

It means nothing, it tells nothing, and it's just an animated little dino for the sake of it.
Please don't kill me

>>183786401
https://soundcloud.com/user-812395050

>>183790214

If it was just an exercise that's fine. I was just thinking if its supposed to be like an idle animation or something there's opportunities to tell the player about how the character will behave and stuff with that

>>183786401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U67MRAPKXzU