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/sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog General

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Welcome to the Sonic The Hedgehog General. Here we talk about Sonic's stuff! Share art and music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more.

/sthg/ #835 - Creepy Fish Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>Sonic News<
Many Details of Mania Revealed at SDCC: Animated Intro, Special Stages, Story, etc.
www.tssznews.com/2017/07/22/sdcc-2017-special-stage-in-sonic-mania-revealed-story-details/

IDW and SEGA Enter Publishing Deal; Will Be Speaking to Fan-Favorite and New Creators
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/888538195045998592
https://twitter.com/IDWPublishing/status/888536084472352770

Sonic Forces "Enter Infinite" Trailer & Theme of Infinite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6uqp_mr98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4

Archie Sonic Officially Cancelled; Not the End of Sonic in Comics
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/887809496898088960

Several Sonic Events Happening at San Diego Comic-Con 2017
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/sounds-of-sonic-music-event-set-for-san-diego-comic-con/
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/sonic-mania-behind-the-scenes-panel-at-comic-con/
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/sonic-augmented-reality-experience-coming-to-sdcc/

>General Interest Links<
/sthg/ Level Development Kit 3.0:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpXy1vZHpRcjJtekU/view?usp=sharing

/sthg/ Drawfag Booru
http://theride.booru.org/

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom
https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom-Season-2

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>sonic 1 fish
>sonic 3&k spheres
>sonic cd formula
>sonic 2 emphasis on ring count
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>>183565203
Those special stages are going to have psychedelic backgrounds just like CD.
Those fish are from the background of the Sonic 1 special stage.
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Why do people have such a hateboner for Sonic Chronicles? The gameplay was a little on the shallow side yet fun, the story, while not perfect was enjoyable and entertaining, the POW moves and Chao boosts were nice mechanics that also made for good fanservice, the characterization was some of the best in the series, and in general it just felt like a really solid first approach at a Sonic RPG, with plenty of worldbuilding to go around aswell. The main bad parts are the crappy soundtrack and sound effects, as well as the fact that the game very clearly feels kind of incomplete due to lacking content.

It's one of those games I thought was a perfectly enjoyable experience, but general longetivity and content was nil because it clearly suffered from the devs' cornercutting, unlike Boom or 06, which were not enjoyable to me at their core and the cornercutting just worsened things even further.
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>>183565203
>the comics are coming back
>sonic mania and forces coming up

LETS GET THIS PARTY STARTED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mW1lznugII
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>>183565428
L-lewd?
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>>183565336
Still a cuck pairing
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>>183565528
better question would be why you have such a boner for an objectively bad rpg in the first place

i mean besides that the word "Sonic" is in the title.
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>>183565203
>>183565556
https://youtu.be/lEm0UfvpdvM
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>>183565556
Thread theme song btw
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>>183565706
Oh my God is that official art? Don't tell me it's Penders. Holy fuck that so bad it looks like a parody.
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>>183565773
>Penders drew Andrew WK
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I didn't realize the Steam page for Sonic Mania mentions a competitive multiplayer mode. I'm surprised they didn't show or mention anything about that, online play is a stretch but I'd love to race people here.
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>>183565573
Why do you care if a big green rock gets cucked?
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opps
>>183565773
meant for
>>183565579
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>>183565428
that should be bump doing it to sage
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>>183565859
It's just comparing times against other people's times. Like in Generations.
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>>183565978
No, that's Chris Allan's art, but Penders writing
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>>183566159
That shit's hilarious looking, they look like dudes with kigurumi on.
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>>183565773
>Don't tell me it's Penders
can someone post an actual page from archie's sonic comic that was draw by ken penders? i wanna see what his art looked like before lara su chronicles
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>>183565773
>Oh my God is that official art? Don't tell me it's Penders. Holy fuck that so bad it looks like a parody.
>>183566319
>they look like dudes with kigurumi on.

i dont think it looks bad
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>>183566562
Look in the background, the more you notice the worse it is
>>183566419
Here you go. I don't get how anyone could say Penders was ever good
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>>183566659
>I don't get how anyone could say Penders was ever good

He did kinda decent traces of Star Trek DS9 photos back int he day.
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>>183566659
He's a good inker and letterer.
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>>183566751
Maybe they were that big so you could actually see them on the screen dumbass.
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>>183566849
I've seen some really shit lettering from him in the past. Inking sure I guess, it's adequate. But adequate for Penders is a fucking milestone
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>>183566659

mina looks ok to me, the other characters i dont really mind or care, they are background characters anyways, then the background itself...i guess you could argue the people on the grandstands of the stadium look like purple bushes...but yet again, are we valuating sonic art based on what random crowds look from far away?
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>>183565773
>He doesn't know about issue 113
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>>183566950
Oh, I made a mistake. I thought you were talking about >>183565579 , that's what I was talking about
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>>183567113
oh i get what u ment, yeah that one looks bad
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>>183567090
thanks, you are a good mate, anon
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>>183567031
Issue 92 will always hold a place in my memory because to forget about it, I'd need the same drugs Higgins was on when he drew the damn thing...well, the half of the issue that wasn't shamelessly traced and hacked out from previous artists' work. That was the start of the Dark Ages for me.
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>>183567090
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So hold up.
For all intents and purposes, the Archiverse is done, right?

There will be more comics, but they're judt going to start from scratch most likely, right?
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>>183567090
LEWD!!
God, I wish I had my reactions folder at hand.
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>>183567802
Most likely, yeah
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>>183567746
>For all intents and purposes, the Archiverse is done, right?

we dont know

idw comics may or may not pick up from were archie left off

we know nothing beyond the fact that idw will be publishing them now
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>>183567746
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>>183567802
Basically.
I don't know what everyone is so hyped about. "The Comic" is still canceled. All Sega is saying is that "this is not the end of sonic in comics" which essentially means there will be a new comic line that has a different unrelated story. So this really isn't a victory for anyone that wanted to save the archie story.
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>>183567681
What is up with Sonic's quills
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>>183568004
this
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>>183568004
>All Sega is saying is that "this is not the end of sonic in comics" which essentially means there will be a new comic line that has a different unrelated story. So this really isn't a victory for anyone that wanted to save the archie story.

nobody said idw comics wont continue from archie's last issue

we dont know
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What should I buy with my the rest of my paycheck? I already spent $700 on Tails art commissions, and I have about $500 left.
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>>183568275
believing it will just pick up where archie left off is extremely wishful thinking, on top of, you know, commercially stupid.
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/v/ keeps talking about a Sakura Synagogue as a stage for Mania and it sounds like total bullshit other than a Japanese-themed level is soft-confirmed by the Hard-Boiled Heavy silhouette

And leaks out here?
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So is the little Sonic supposed to be Sonic's stand?
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>>183568408
there is no official announcement that states wheter or not idw's comics will continue from archie's last issue or not
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>>183568304
buying the trades of the comic as they will be getting rarer
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>>183568474
was that a jojo reference?
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Fuck Tails' Marble Garden boss fight.
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>>183568527
Ok, I'll put it plainly, anon.
It is far more likely than not that it's a new unrelated comic story.
I doubt the freedom fighters will even be in it.
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Hey guys, TF fag from /toy/ here. Excited for Sonic to come to IDW, but will we be seeing Sally and the rest of the comic characters, or just Sonic, Knuckles, etc?
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>>183568527
are you really not understanding how stupid you sound by just repeating that over and over?

nobody said the idw comic isn't going to feature uncensored penetrative sex between klonoa and amy rose.

we don't know
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>>183568032
>tfw like long quills but hate bad art
So torn
It was the one thing I liked about 06 tho
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>>183568643
i can respect your opinions and speculations, yes but please have in mind that nothing is certain yet

we dont know
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>>183568676
>Hey guys, TF fag from /toy/ here. Excited for Sonic to come to IDW, but will we be seeing Sally and the rest of the comic characters, or just Sonic, Knuckles, etc?
TECHNICALLY there is a chance you will see Sally and the gang but I would say it's less than a 5% chance. It's far more likely that the new comics will be 100% game characters only.
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Huh, turns out I can import the PC LE from America, and it's cheaper than the console versions.
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>>183568742
Fine
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>>183568676
>will we be seeing Sally and the rest of the comic characters, or just Sonic, Knuckles, etc?

we dont know, nothing was confirmed about that yet
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>>183568676
Basically what >>183568771 says.
Nothing is official, but based on Sega's wording and the fact that they cut ties with archie because of how much of a headache it all was with the character and property rights, I would be my entire life savings you will never see freedom fighters or any other archie OCs in official Sonic material ever again.

And to be honest, maybe it's for the best. I love the comic. I've read through it several times and it's a huge part of my childhood, even the wierd alien time skip shit, but at this point I don't want to keep remnants of it suffering on life support. Just let it be at piece. Characters will survive in the community and through art.
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>>183565528
>Why do people have such a hateboner for Sonic Chronicles?

Terrible music which we all know is a cardinal sin, difficulty spike that forces you to grind early on, POW moves can get unfairly difficult and tiring to pull off perfectly, subparoverworld models, uninteresting villain, and it ended on a cliffhanger that never got resolved.

I say this as someone who still likes it, though mostly because of the character interactions.
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>>183568695
>are you really not understanding how stupid you sound by just repeating that over and over?
>nobody said the idw comic isn't going to feature uncensored penetrative sex between klonoa and amy rose.
>we don't know

you seem to be rather mad, but consider the following:

random anons that are not following the last threads come by and ask this kind of questions every now and then,

what am i supposed to say to them? i cant assure one thing or the other when there is no official source backing up such information, that would be incorrect and i dont want to help incorrent info spread through the rest of the internet

if idw or sega say something along the lines of "new Continuity from now on" or "freedom fighters wont come back" then fine, but until that happens we have to wait, we cant take anything from granted wheter it is more likely or not
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>>183565556
this version is definitely more appropriate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JL6vKB5qMU
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>>183565528
>Why do people have such a hateboner for Sonic Chronicles?

Gameplay was too slow for a sonic game. Period.
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Is there any better moment to highlight them not giving a fuck about canon anymore?
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>>183568430
check last thread
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>>183569029
This is literally exactly how I feel. Evee since the reboot I've said basically "ok, fine. I'm glad it still exists, but if this hapoens again, just let it go next time."

It's really like losing an old freind but then you realize he really hasn't been that person you knew as a kid for some time anyway, so that makes it easier to let go. I think if the reboot had never happened, a lot of people would be taking this news much harder, but because the comic already kind of ended in 252, this is much easier to deal with. That's not to say I'm glad it's ended. Quite the contrary, I love the reboot era art and think some arcs like fighters are great. I'm just saying that nothing lasts forever and the fact that we already had a sort of ending for the events that statted at issue one back at issue 251 makes this news of an ultimate final cancellation easier to swallow.
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>>183569440
How many times has he had to rebuild that thing anyway.
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I hate this bonus stage so much. Worst ring turnout and does nothing but steal your rings.
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>>183569440
I hope Tails gets his planes back in Forces and Mania.
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>>183569440
They haven't cared for over a decade. This is just insult to injury. Nothing new.

For the record, in my headcanon it's atill Tails' plane.
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>>183569560
still*
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is this finished or is it still ment to be updated sometime in the future?
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>>183569440
>temples of gaia
L M A O
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>>183569716
jesus fuck turn off that hideous filter on your emulator
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>>183569440
What am I missing here?
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>>183569716
>filters
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YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THIS WITH TAILS NOT SOME LITERALLY WHO CHARACTER OF THE WEEK
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There are a handful of differences between Sonic 3 and Sonic 3& Knuckles that I think merit a playthrough of Sonic 3, but is there any reason to play Sonic & Knuckles by itself?
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>>183569716
i'd like to see more work put on the stages, if not a layout or graphics edit maybe different palletes at least

different music wouldnt hurth tho
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>>183569817
sonic & knuckles is a good one-sitting run
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>>183569765
>>183569808

sorry guys i play it that way because it makes the borders round, forgot to turn it off for the rest of you
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>Like 3D and 2D Sonic, though I like 2D more.
>Hyped for Mania AND Forces
>Realize that both the above makes me an enemy of a good chunk of the Sanic community, including pretty much all of Sonic Retro.
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>>183569716
I don't believe there are any updates planned, but he did leave the source code if anyone else wants to.
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>>183565203
I love low poly Sonic
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>>183569796
Tornado is Sonic's plane. Tornado 2 is Tails'

>>183569812
YOU LOVE CHIP HE GOOD FRIEND SONIC
Unleashed kinda feels really weak if you don't like Chip. It sucks, takes away so much from the game

>>183569817
I prefer the Sonic & Knuckles levels/level music over 3
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>>183569812
Chip is so much more enjoyable to bully than Tails.
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>>183569963
dont be so over dramatic
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>>183569796
>>183570026
That and the Tornado should be destroyed and replaced by the Tornado 2 or the Cyclone anyway. He's specifying 1, even though 2 and Cyclone apparently don't exist anymore.
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>>183569963
I thought Mania is great for the classic feel?
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Okay so I just dropped by neogaf to see what they thought of Infinite's theme and hoooly shiiet that was a bad idea. Those fucks are bigger dicks to sonic than /v/.
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>>183570180

Retro loves Mania but hates Forces.
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Why do people hate so much on Lost World? I haven't played it yet, but the gameplay looks way better than the Boost garbage and it has the coolest cutscenes since 2006 (if we don't count the very first cutscene in Unleashed, but I'm referring more to the interactions between characters and what they say). I don't really like the Zetis but that's about it.
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>>183570228
NeoGaf impressively have bigger faggots than /v/ does, but considering what it takes to get an account on that website I'm not surprised everyone has huge as fuck heads
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>>183570238
I think they're making several weird decisions but overall I think it looks fine, being a classic fag I just more dont get it.
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>>183570290
Not even joking someone on there said all sonic vocal songs are terrible.
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>>183570282
>Why do people hate so much on Lost World?
boss fights were kinda dissapointing for me
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>>183570282
Anybody with a brain disregarded your post when you said "Boost garbage".

Sorry you wasted your time if you was expecting some serious responses.
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>>183570290

All of the diehard gaming places like NeoGAF seem to dislike to outright despise Forces, which means it's probably going to be pretty good.
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can we get some penders drawn pages from the comic posted? you can pick your favorites. I just want a good laugh and terribly drawn sonic shit with wall eyes.
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>>183570435
More than Adventure's?
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>>183569440
I thìnk the tornado-1 is different than the tornado, kinda like xbox
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>>183570282
>Lost World has more automation than the standard Boost game
>Is full of nothing but shitty ass gimmicks
>The story is basically inferior to Colors
>Shit nostalgiafags almost as much as Generations
>The game focuses so much on the Stereotype Six who are completely uninteresting
>The music is super miss with an occasional hit
>The level design and aesthetics are as uninspired as the worst NSMB games
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>>183570435
More disappointing than Colours? Still, boss fights are a small part of the game all things considered.

>>183570454
Are you retarded?
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>>183570414

I think the avatar stages are pretty decent and I like the idea of messing around with tools to go fast and keep up the rhythm, but if they suck, I can always play the Modern and Classic Sanic stages over and over until I have to S-rank the avatar stages for an achievement.
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>>183570529
>Lost World has more automation than the standard Boost game
Really? Even the 2D sections? I thought the gameplay looked cool mainly because of them.

>The story is basically inferior to Colors
How?

>Shit nostalgiafags almost as much as Generations
Nope.

>The game focuses so much on the Stereotype Six who are completely uninteresting
I agree.

>music
>aesthetics
I like them.

Can't comment on level design.
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>>183570497
yes, most of the time is a level gimmick instead of actually fighting the zeti
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I never got why they didn't make it Tails plane to begin with. They never explain how Sonic gets it or anything, it would make more sense for Tails to have it...
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>>183570646
Honestly Forces doesn't look bad at all to me. It's just an edgy Generations with OC customization.
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>>183570282
Not fast enough, Personally I thought the free-running was a step in the right direction but I'm in the minority.
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>>183570646
What makes the Avatar stages unique? It looks near the same as standard Sonic Colors stages.
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>>183570658
Especially the 2D sections man. You can't even complete a loop without holding the run button. That's why they put a speed booster in front of all of them

They don't explain shit. Sonic Colors has good scenes that developed Yacker, the Wisps, Eggman's plans, etc. The Zeti come from nowhere, the Lost Hex comes from nowhere, Eggman's Magic Conch comes from nowhere. The only thing explained is Eggman was using Sanic to take over the world despite nothing else making sense

I guess you haven't noticed all the reused badniks from the Genesis games and making them all cartoonified

It's a very uninspired game. The best aspect of the whole game was Eggman
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>>183570481
>can we get some penders drawn pages from the comic posted? you can pick your favorites. I just want a good laugh and terribly drawn sonic shit with wall eyes.

you mean this one? >>183566659
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>>183570876
Okay yeah and really.. Sonic Lost World itself is just as forgettable as a game as Rise of Lyric.

(Is it against the rules of /sthg/ to mention that game here?)
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>>183570941
yeah, but more of that shit.
>the background is a fucking photo
jesus christ
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>>183570847

I don't care that it's edgier. I'm not some faggot that's still ashamed about being emo back in the early 00s.
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>>183570532
>More disappointing than Colours?
never played it

>>183570497
>More than Adventure's?
i played sa1 when i was younger (target demographic) and i found egg viper to be quite fun and challenging at the time, some fights were too easy like egg hornet tho ...
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>>183570743
My headcanon time.
It's Sonics plane because the embodiment of ch-

I like to think that Sonic gets stupidly popular with everyone on West Island or whichever Island is the first one, and is hailed as a hero.
One of the gifts he ends up receiving is a personalised plane, a bi-plane with his name on the side.
To get away from everyone on West Island constantly thanking him, he takes his new plane out for a spin, without fully reading the instruction manual on what to do if a red flashing button comes up.

One emergency landing later he crashes it onto Tails island, and the story continues from there, as Sonic realises that Tails knows how to fly one, and Sonic learns properly later.

My headcanons try and just connect certain plot points in the story or fill up some missing info, which I find is the best way to do headcanons.

MY HEADCANON IS AMY IS PANS people can fuck right off.
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>>183566659

Why do Charmy and his wife look perpetually stoned?
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>>183571026
No, the only Voldemort we have here is a drawfag.
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>>183571121
>>never played it
The first boss is a sphere, you run through it a few times and that's it. The third boss is identical.
The second (and fourth) boss is the only interesting one, it's kind of like a level if I remember correctly.
The third, sixth and final bosses are nothing but boost.
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>>183571026
We complain about Lost World enough and we have one member who actively enjoys RoL so much he 100% it.
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What if the Tornado One is a completely different plane than the original Tornado, which wasn't specified with a number. So you'd have:
The Tornado
Tornado 2
Tornado 3: aka Cyclone
Tornado One
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WAIT A SECOND BOYS

>Theme of Infinite
Does this mean we'll get themes for the main characters too? I hope we get a theme of Sonic and one for Tails too at the very least!
They've done this every time they've had a character theme in the past. Last time being 2006
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>>183571523
Considering it's labeled 1 and it's red like the first Tornado it's implied to be the original
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>>183570497
>More than Adventure's?
that was in 1998, i can let that slide

but Lost World came out in 2013, what's their excuse? by this time we deserve better boss fights than that
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>>183571523
Yes. it's the Xbox One X
no it's just them fucking up so much that it overflows into something that vaguely seems to make some sense
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>>183571530
I hope so, but im not so sure.

Fist Bump feels like it could be the theme for both Sonics + Buddy, I am not sure they're getting individual themes beyond that.
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>>183571680
I assumed it was supposed to be the main theme for the game, but maybe this is a His World situation I guess.
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>>183571581
Looks completely different than the one in Lost World.
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>>183571750
It looks like a more detailed version of the Adventure plane
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>>183571860
I always hated the Tornado redesign in Adventure.
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https://youtu.be/Pux2TNnKuw4
Why doesn't SEGA capitalize on what's considered one of the best platformers of all time and make a remake? Tons of GOATs have a remake, like Mario 64, OOT, FF7 and Crash.
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I CAN'T STOP LISTENING TO INFINITE'S THEME. HELP ME.
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>>183572154
what is there to remake about it?
"sonic 3 complete" is probably as far as it can be improved without screwing it up
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>>183572154

https://www.sonicretro.org/2015/02/regarding-sonic-3-guest-post-by-stealth/
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>>183572154
Because Mania is coming out you fool. Taxman and Stealth did 1/2/CD, and then got told they could do original stuff for their next game, so they did.

Mania was originally going to be 1/2/CD/3 + a few extra levels, but then Iizuka told them to just make a full new game, and to remix the old stuff to make it something people will actually pay for.

If leaks are to be believed, most of 3&K is going to be in Mania anyways.
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>>183572154
taxman and co have a prototype but they are busy with mania at the moment
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>>183572258
Widescreen and a consistent 60fps
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>>183572284

all due respect to mr taxman and his crew

they do an amazing job

with that said

i hate playing sonic on a phone
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>>183572284
sonic3remastered.com just brings me to an empty domain
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The last Cybershell video was nice. On that subject, I really regret Sega didn't try to go further with "lock-on technology". The idea was pretty good and it also blew my mind as a child.

>Sonic Mania & Ristar
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>>183572154
>tfw Taxman will never make Sonic 3 Complete HD
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>>183572651
He looks like a Ramones member
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>>183572729
I discovered his Sonic 4 breakdown yesterday, it was pretty good. Are there any other in depth criticisms of Sonic 4 worth reading/watching?
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Get hype fellow adventurebros
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>>183572729
Yes I'm sure I'm not the only stupid child to methodically test all my Genesis games with Sonic & Knuckles... y'know, just in case.
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>>183571958
why? it just has tails stuff on it
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>>183572154
I never played S3&K because I was salty about the music change

Don't touch my Knuckles theme you assholes
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>>183572154
sonic 1 and 2 remakes should have the casual mode from 3c
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>>183573129
The issues with the Sonic 3 score making it like near impossible to touch up the game is one of the biggest curses on the franchise

>>183573158
You mean Sonic Jam's Easy modes?
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>>183573185
I guess? I have never played Jam, so I'm happy to find out it was in official versions
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>>183573158
It's originally from Sonic Jam
So they already exist
What I want is a hard version where there are other threats in the game than
1. missing the fucking chaos emeralds
2. getting crushed in sonic 3 even though sonic is spinning under the ceiling of crushing platforms
3. hard bosses
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Sonic 3&K will never get a proper official remake because of Iizuka's autism on Super Emeralds.
Also, if it did, it wouldn't have the options from Sonic 3C because they're too complicated for normal people.
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>>183565556
Who is this chicken and why is he best character?
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>>183573387
I can live without shit like swapping the levels, sprites or even the controls

But being able to fuck with the OST should be available in a Sonic 3 HD just because CD has it too
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>>183573513
It's just a simple switch in CD, it's kind of different in 3&K.
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>>183573387
Reminder that the current S3&K is just Sega selling an emulator on Steam, tells you what a band of lazy asses they are and how we can wait unless CW is commissioned for the task again.

Now it also means you can add S3C to the Steam emulator if you want to play from Steam but whatever.
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>>183573651
>>183573387
>Multiple sources for years now constantly say "there's no Sonic 3 remake because of legal issues"
>People still insist on instead whinging it's because "HURR HURR RETARDED SEGA" or "HURR HURR RETARDED SONIC TEAM"
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>>183573801
Selling encrypted roms is still a scummy move
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>>183573014
>>183573034
I watched the Adventure one a few days ago. Did you ever find out what a TAS is? It's been a while, so I assume you did, but still
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>>183573801

its ok everyone, 3&k remake is probably next in line right after mania is finished

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYnkfEh3TP0
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>There will never be a Linkin Park cover of Infinite's theme
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>>183573014
I'm sick of this new trend of shitting of them without recognizing their merits. t's crazy that they went from being overrated in every single aspect to this. I'm glad this video is going to be a thing.
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>>183570282
I don't really like the cutscenes in that game. They feel so disconnected from each other it's weird and there's so many dropped plot points too. How did Tails stop being a robot? How come Eggman never followed up on any of the things he said?

As for the level design? It's garbage too, Desert Ruins Act 1's first section is just flat terrain with a few ramps here and there.
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I cannot fucking believe Penders can lay claim to Knuckles having a family history (when SEGA already touched on it) and the concept of Sonic having a multiverse (something as old as sci-fi itself). That is just unbelievably absurd and I refuse to accept it.
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>>183574412

Penders' weird obsession with Sonic and Knuckles makes more sense when you realize Penders had no interest nor knowledge of the Sanic games during his tenure. To him, Sonic and Knuckles ARE his babies because his comics are the only exposure he's had to them. The idea that Sonic, and especially Knuckles, are actually vidya characters first has never crossed his mind because, to him, they only exist in the comics he wrote and did art for.
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>>183574412
>the concept of Sonic having a multiverse
Can he? That makes even less sense than Penders' shit usually does!
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>>183574412
>Multiverse theory is fictional and can be copyrighted
Fuck this complacent reality, I want to go home
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>>183574412
Sonic doesn't have a multiverse, Japanese stuff always go for two balanced counterparts. So no more than two worlds at maximum to make for a totally different philosophy. Or time travel.

And who cares about Penders except if you wanted the SatAM third season
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>>183574412
>I cannot fucking believe Penders
>That is just unbelievably absurd and I refuse to accept it.

The very existence of Penders is an absurd on itself, everything from his art back in the day, his art now, his claims, his tweets

Penders is a paradox, and antimatter entinty, a walking talking black hole of logic that is trying to absorb/destroy anything sonic related on his way

he is the deadliest foe known in the whole sonic franchise
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>>183575340
>Sonic doesn't have a multiverse
i think he means different continuities like the animated shows, the comics and the actual videogames
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>>183575340
>Sonic doesn't have a multiverse
they did have paralel universes like the anti-mobius and such in pre reboot comics
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>>183574412
Im pretty sure sega has flat out ignored Penders on his multiverse shit.

As for Knuckles, its again more that Sega just doesn't WANT to explore Knuckles' family. He is supposed to be the last Echidna left on Angel Island after all.
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>>183575543
Oh. It's just Iizuka bullshit, the Genesis games will continue to be referenced, like, how did Sonic even met Knuckles if he didn't go on Angel Island?

>>183575613
I meant for the official story. Comics are published in the US and Penders was allowed his filthy hands on it pre-reboot so harmonious development was an impossibility. Now it's all erased twice, first by the power of the Chaos Emeralds, now by the power of the SoJ Death Beam, so why care?
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>>183574412
>the concept of Sonic having a multiverse

He can't, no matter how much he thinks he can. The only thing he could "claim" would the pre-reboot's specific multiverse layout with the Zone Cops and Cosmic Interstate. Blaze, and arguably the storybook games, already proves there's a canon multiverse.
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>Fleetway comics given next to no attention by Sega
>Like, even less than Archie back in the day
>Fleetway told to make adaptations of games they either had to play themselves or get small bits of information from

>Apart from shit like the Brotherhood of metallix and Lesbin adventures through Time And Space, still manage to keep the story on point and malleable enough to fit in with the Adventure shit

How did Penders fuck it up that badly.
I mean, apart from his comic idea failing and projecting it on to the echidna race.
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>>183575929
>Blaze, and arguably the storybook games, already proves there's a canon multiverse.
Bubble worlds in a greater universe, not a multiverse
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>>183576323
A distinction without a difference
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>>183576402
Multiverse means infinite variants of universes, Sonic and Blaze worlds are not variants but just part of one whole, like the different layers of the universe in classic mythology. There is no Sonic #9852 meeting Eggman #494, Eggman Nega is a descendant of Eggman, not a variant and he's done since Backbone Entertainment isn't Sega anyway
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Now that I think about it don't they look like Penders?
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>>183576228
what was that? is penders making crash comics now? wtf?
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>>183576771
I think it was a hypothetical if Penders made Crash to show Crashfags just how much Penders fucked up.
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>>183576585
>Eggman Nega is a descendant of Eggman, not a variant
is blaze from the same space time universe as sonic or not? is she from silver's future?
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>>183575801

>Oh. It's just Iizuka bullshit, the Genesis games will continue to be referenced, like, how did Sonic even met Knuckles if he didn't go on Angel Island?

But SoJ have always said the classic games (specifically the main ones) happened in some form in both classic and modern branches, so that's a moot point.
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>be you
>get transported to Sonic World right now
What would you do?


also enjoy the greatest video on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BsW1Pmmfto&t=17s
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>>183576929
This plotline is so convoluted you can't make an answer anymore. My headcanon is that Blaze's world is from the future protected from the outside world because of the 2006 events and the Sol Emeralds are Chaos Emeralds upgraded with Iblis power who sustain that world
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>>183576585
>There is no Sonic #9852 meeting Eggman #494
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>>183577140
>What would you do?
hit on mobian girls of course
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>>183577332
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Can someone post the "absolute madman" sonic mania pic? Thx
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>>183576228
>Apart from Brotherhood of metallix and Lesbin adventures through Time And Space
Damn, that really is a contrast. When Fleetway went off-base, it gave us Emperor Metallix and crossbow sniper Amy. When Panders' regime went off-base, we got Vulcan echidnas and love triangles.
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>>183577489
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>>183575801
>like, how did Sonic even met Knuckles if he didn't go on Angel Island?
hahah anon, why do you think any of that matters?
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>>183577394

https://www.myinstants.com/instant/megaman-3-death-sound-effect/
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>>183576749
>Like Mother, Like Daughter
This is slander. Lara-Su was an enjoyable character.
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>>183577830
When written decently, any character is 'good'. It's just a shame that her base premise was so awful, and that she had to come from such a fucking idiot to begin with.
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Please stop going fast, I can't keep up
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>>183578195
pin your tabs
close the old ones
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>>183578279
why do you need all of them opened at the same time ?
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>>183578123
Sad truth is I thought Julie-Su had potential. She grew up a child soldier in a militant tech cult, has suffered multiple mind-wipes that destroyed any pretense of a childhood she might have had, and now is justifiably happy with her life as Knuckles' squeeze and honorary Chaotix member.

I know that her practicality is something of an anchor for fun scenes, but I think it would have made for an excellent counterweight for Knuckles' intensity and shortsightedness.

She could've been the best parts of Raiden and Lois Lane in one. I would've loved that shit so much, it would have given some life to the stodgy Brotherhood drivel. That kind of chance was what was lost with the reboot, and it's what I still feel nostalgia towards even now.
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>>183578660

Half way through your first sentence about her you should have realised how over the top/try hard that is and corrected your opinion.
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>>183578759
Welcome to /sthg/ mate.
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>>183577372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W7c8QghPxk
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Holy shit, Infinite's theme is so fucking edgy that it actually wraps back around to being entertaining. It is hilarious.
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I like this character
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>>183578530
I only close them after reading all of them and saving the pictures I want
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>>183578969
what's her name again?
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>>183579078
Jian the Tiger.
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>>183578759
You're not wrong, but again, it's all in the writing for the character. I still contend that, for all the stupid Mary-Sue shit that Penders put all of his characters through, a decent writer would have been able to sift through the many flaws and do something decent with them.

That's arguably the biggest problem with Penders outside of how batshit insane he is - his characters have potential, and under a more competent writer perhaps the ideas he has for them could be fleshed out into something acceptable. His pride being what it is, though, he doesn't seem to be able to stomach the fact that people can take the things he creates and do better things with them.
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>>183577140
I've always wanted to live in Station Square. A small walk to the beach, amusement park, night life entertainmentand an Chao Garden. Love it.
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>>183577372
>>183578852
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>>183575734
This bodes a question: Post-Reboot, did Mega Man and the others from world unite(Skies of Arcadia, Street Fighter, NiGHTS, etc.) replaced the old Archie Sonic Multiverse?
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>>183578969
anon u have fine taste
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>>183578186
Cute Steeks
Tried to speedcopy her
I wanna drawfag in future
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>>183579380
marine the raccoon
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>>183579506
do i? Bet she wouldn't like me anyway...
i want a mobian gf...
>>183579608
nice, just take it slow anon, no reason to rush
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>>183579380
woo! ghost blowjob!
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>>183579380
Computer Lynx
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>>183579380
nobody because i am loser in life and i don't deserve anything
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>>183579793
Thanks, it's the first time I try to draw a sanic since my horrendous tries of some months ago so I just got all excited by the absence of disaster as I was working on it
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>>183579380
cream
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>>183573451
Because he plays bass and bass is best instrument.
Fight me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M

>>183574412
>I cannot fucking believe Penders can-
Lemme stop you right there.
It's Penders. 'nuff said.
The guy's like one level above Chrischan in terms of social and self awareness and knowledge of copyright. At this stage the only thing that should surprise you about him is if he's ever hired again.

>>183579832
The good thing about computer programs is that they can be copy/pasted
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Will any of you guys be aiming to create SatAM/Archie characters in Forces?

The limited body types will make it difficult, but I am sure some of them are possible
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>>183579963
Nobody the no-thing !

infinite the everything's twin !
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>>183580305
anon....
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>>183565336
Cute.

>>183565428
Nice, though surprised it's still up
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Post your 1998 wallpaper

4chan doesn't support bmps
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>>183579963
aw come on anon whats wrong? cheer up
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>>183580104
In a non fetishy way those paws are cute af

and this is coming from a footfag
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>>183579793
so do i, anon, so do i

take it easy dont be so harsh on youself
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>>183580661
i am human garbage
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I had no idea S3 Complete was this crazy, holy moly https://youtu.be/Pux2TNnKuw4
I thought it was just like Sonic 3 & Knuckles in one ROM or something, this is amazing
>tfw playing S3K with Sonic 2 sprites, super peel out, AND controllable tails
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>>183569963
Fuck em
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>>183580303
pc mods, anon, pc mods
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>>183580785
Why do you say that?

>>183579793
Urgh never belittle yourself anon, it's the uncoolest thing ever. Brit Sonic would hit you until you start to man up if he knew
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>>183580854
When did Cybershell lose his personality?

>COPE? What the fuck does COPE mean??
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>>183580954
You dont like his vids? I notice that before his recent opinion/informative vids all he did was lets plays. The first vid I saw from his was his top 10 Sonic video and that was only a month or so ago but I think I've seen all of his other recents
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>>183579793
>Bet she wouldn't like me anyway...

who says furrys cant obsese over hummies ? have some confidence, their standards when it comes to beauty are likely to be totally different from ours ! dont loose hope !
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>>183580914
Because it is true my friend.
I don't who is Brit Sonic my bro.
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The wait for Sonic Mania is hell.
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>>183581021
I liked when he wasn't regurgitating things we already know

Oh wow, Sonic 4 and Chaotix are bad games? Groundbreaking. Now tell me how to fix the Sonic series.
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>>183579995
did u trace, anon? did u ?
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>>183580104
>Fight me.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraoraoraoraaah !
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>>183581040
tha's not real, they are not real
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>>183580719
what do u like about feet? i never understood that, is it the wrinkles?
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>>183581054
Brit Sonic is this asshole

You're only depressed because you don't act. Break the idle vicious circle and the first part is not hating yourself, be indifferent. Remember that we are all losers, some of us just try to hide it.

>>183581116
I didn't. Learn anatomy and draw first head, torso, abdomen as circles while drawing over it and with some training you git gud
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>>183581081
Yeah thatch true I suppose. We already have enough anti-Sonic bullshit to go around for the next decade or two.
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>>183572198
WHO IS GONNA SAVE YOU NOW?
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>>183581165

>>183580719
>>183581231
I gotta second this. I always thought it was just a sort of powerplay/taboo sort of related thing?
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>>183579832
Why is computer yelling?
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>>183581258
>You're only depressed because you don't act. Break the idle vicious circle and the first part is not hating yourself, be indifferent. Remember that we are all losers, some of us just try to hide it.
what am i supposed to live for though, i am not interested in 3DPD and that's what normie life revolves around
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>>183581081
Shit 2D games don't really help much, but from the looks of it we're in a much better place than we were a few years ago. We might get those fixes anyway

>>183581443
Mixing FotNS and JoJo will always trigger my autism
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>>183581525
>i am not interested in 3DPD and that's what normie life revolves around
you sound retarded. try new things and find your purpose, find a reason to get out of bed besides shitting up a thread with self-deprecatory bullshit.

unless you're in highschool still then just kill yourself

sonic the hedgehog
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What voices do you have in mind when reading the Mega Drive series?
>Sonic - Ryan Drummond
>Robotnik - Mike Pollack
>Tails - Amy Palant
>Knuckles - Scott Dreier
>Amy - Jennifer Douillard
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>>183580854
Why the fuck didn't this video show up in my subscription feed? Is jewgle up to something again?
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>>183581673
>you sound retarded
i am
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>>183581821
OVA voices
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>>183581525
Nobody is interested by the media stereotypes. If you prefer to stay with waifus, it's fine for you, romantic life isn't even necessary. What are your talents? What do you do in life? What do you like? Take what you like to see and try to make it yourself, for others. This is the first step.

PS avoid too much anime and moeshit it's drugs that fuck with your mind
t. ex-addict
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>>183581821
OVA voices with Amy as a younger Sara
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>>183581910
What about Amy?
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>>183582027
Don't really have one in mind. I imagine it's higher in pitch than her normal voices.
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>>183581225
your heart makes them real <3

after all. thats what chaos energy is all about!

its power from the heart :)))

i wish u a wonderful day anon xoxoxo
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>>183581821
Scratch that, I find Lisa Ortiz more fitting looking back at it
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>>183582084
anon, stop it
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>>183581225

dreams come true !
https://youtu.be/of5n484ptGM
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Ok I need to draw something and I'm drawing blanks, and I need to practice drawing Sonics. Taking some (non-lewd) requests.

>>183581910
This. Even if I found them annoying as hell, they're what I hear when I imagine the characters in their CD-esque designs.

>>183581948
Again, this. "Go outside" is a cliche thing to say but seriously, go outside and try some shit just once, even if you're convinced you'll hate it. At least you tried, and maybe you'll end up loving it.
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>>183581948
i don't really watch much animu, just sometimes when something new and interesting comes out.

I can kinda draw i guess?
I like animals.
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>>183581347
>WHO IS GONNA SAVE YOU NOW?

WHO'S GONNA ROCK THE PLACE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9W8nrAuWlY
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>>183581525
aw u just need a hug

*hugs*
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>>183581896
get good at drawing sonics ! make comissions ! earn money form home ! work doing something u like ! people will like you ! you'll make new friends !
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>>183582214
This is great, like, seriously. Learn about the animals you like, behaviour, life, etc and learn to draw them. Everyday, even if it's for no more than 10 minutes, learn about them, or draw them, and NEVER skip. In some months, you will have learnt not only a passion or a talent, but a speciality that will give you a sense of self-worth.

Don't disappoint me anon
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>>183582186
>Taking some (non-lewd) requests.
OH MY GAWD FLEETWAY AMY FOR GODS SAKE !
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>>183582131
*hughs u*
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>>183582662
>>183582356
>>183582165
stop this
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>>183582186
>Taking some (non-lewd) requests.
Infinite crying.
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Reminder, that you are not a loser unless you convinve yourself, and you can be single for the rest of your life, or not, that's your choice.
And if we got realistic holograms, then you can hope that we can get solid holograms with our characters, or maybe discover new dimensions.
Just believe, even if you don't see it, and you are not a loser. Reminder that to come to this world, a sperm has to win in a race to an ovum against more of a million sperms, and if you are here, you won that race.
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>>183581821
Japanese dub
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>>183582497
i already drew Sonics, it's average though
Posted some here already few threads ago
>>183582518
>Don't disappoint me anon
that's hard


i don't know who but someone uploaded my old art on page

http://img.booru.org/furry//images/848/3483eb0d324bab3aa4088bec35c49f0228069f43.jpg


can i sue
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>>183582702
d-pression is no good, anon ! lets make it go away with cute pictures and nice thoughts <3
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>>183582186
>Taking some (non-lewd) requests.
Clove being cute pls
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>>183582186
Draw Infinite as a sprite for a fighting game.
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>>183582791
>And if we got realistic holograms, then you can hope that we can get solid holograms with our characters, or maybe discover new dimensions.
vr visors and Augmented reality are just the peak of the iceberg ! dont loose hope! who knows what 'll come up next !
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>>183582807
that doesnt look half bad, keep practicing !

also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa_ixz4A3zI
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>>183581231
>>183581443
Apparently it's the brain crosswiring connections to find it sexual. Similarly to breasts, it's normally a covered up part of the body, so some people link it like that in a taboo way.
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I wish that these two would actually interact in canon...
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>>183583594
They do, kind of, sort of, the tiniest bit, in Heroes/ShTH

I dont understand why Shadow wasn't in Advance 3
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Anyone feels like gifting Sonicmania?
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>>183583726
It's 50 cents.
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>>183583813
what
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>>183582909
>as a sprite for a fighting game
I mean, I can do a fighting pose as if it were drawn for a fighting game, but I can't really do sprites if that's what you mean.
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Confess your Sonic-related sins, /sthg/.

I've never noticed how time progressed in Sonic 1 until recently.
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>>183565556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TP7Rc0ggGc
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>>183584773
Ok then. Just do him like pic related. Art for a Story Mode, normal, fighting and defeated.
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>>183584775
i am here for waifus only cand know nothing about comics
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>>183568304
Go find some rare merchandise, anon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyOEY8GcDvM
>Mania's length is comparable to S3K
Predict how many stages there'll be lads.
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>>183568304
buy me Sonic Mania
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>>183585014
S3K has 25 stages total including Doomsday. I'm going to say 24: 10 normal zones at 2 acts each, 2 finale zones with 1 act each (think Sky Chase/Wing Fortress or Hidden Palace/Sky Sanctuary), 1 final boss zone (think Sonic 2 Death Egg), and 1 secret hidden final boss that you unlocked after getting all the chaos emeralds.
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>>183568304
Either save it or buy a game you wanted to play and can play it. Just try to have something, don't waste all the money in one day. Use it wisely.
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>>183585182
So how many original zones and remixed zones should we expect? It sounds like there's going to be more than 10 fucking zones, damn.
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Why did Sega never make a Sonic Pinball cabinet?
They made Spinball and even had a Pinball division through the mid to late 90s so it just seems like it should have come naturally.
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Cloov
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>>183585492
There's a colored version on /trash/. Someone should put it on the booru
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https://twitter.com/servbot_42/status/888960295300767745
>That Special Stage theme
MY
DICK
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>>183585385
They should, but no, all you get is this.
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>>183583726
It's 10 bucks, pretty cheap for a GOTY.
If you live in Europe that is
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>>183585014
It's already been stated that there are more retro levels than new ones. Conservatively, we are getting one stage each from Sonics 1, 2, 3, K, and CD. 5 retro zones + 4 new zones = 9 zones total

...But if the Hard-boiled Heavies are exclusively midbosses for the new zones and there are five of them, then at a minimum we are looking at 5 new zones + 6 retro zones = 11 zones total. I haven't the foggiest idea where the sixth retro zone would come from (Sonic 4?...).
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>>183579380
Amy Rose is my forever waifu!
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>>183585968
i live in europe my friend...
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>decide to watch sonic boom because lots of people have told me it's good
>it is good, has excellent writing
>Amy is voiced by the same voice actor as Mokoto Nanaya from BlazBlue
this is giving me the most uncomfortable boner imaginable

on one hand, Mokoto is perfect and her English VA is great
on the other hand, Amy
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>>183565203
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Bureizu
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>>183586146
It's Makoto, not Mokoto.
But yeah, Makoto is a best girl of her series. But I never knew that.
Patrick voicing a Sonic character when?
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>>183585980
This is why I think it'll be >>183585182
with one of the "1 act" zones being a remix of a S3&K 2-player zone (IIRC they said they wanted to do that) and the final boss zone being Death Egg, which would technically count as a retro zone.
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>>183586162
This is a fan thing yes?
Looks comfy to just run around, does't even need a story.
Just make explorable Sonic World
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>>183586015
Well then it's not hard to earn it by working/breaking your piggybank/asking your mum/committing a crime etc.
I never buy games myself, but i made an exception for this one and Undertale.
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>>183586245
Honestly, if it were up to me, there's be 5 retro zones (again, one each from Sonics 1, 2, 3, K, and CD), 5 new zones, a one act Sky Chase tribute, a two act Death Egg penultimate zone with old and new design elements mixed in, and the final Super-only boss zone. 13 zones sounds fine.

Any word on multiplayer for Mania?
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>>183586457
how can you say those hurtful things to me, anon
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>>183586706
It's internet dude, get used to it.
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>>183586457
Undertale
Pirating all games to not give content creators money but then you go and give it to fucking Undertale, what the fuck dude.
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>>183584775
>I've never noticed how time progressed in Sonic 1 until recently.
What?
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>>183587228
Because I played it and I liked it.
Next time I pirate and play something good, I will consider buying it.
But I'm not gonna pay for a game just to find out that it's a piece of shit and lose my money.
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somebody kill me pls
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Everyone, shh. Shadow is sleeping.
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>>183587653
See, I've never regretted a purchase.
Mainly because I don't have the time to play so many games, nor the money, so I put in a bit of thinking before buying.
1. Is it so cheap I don't mind losing money
2. Is it made by a respectable company
3. Does it look fun

To this day, there's been 2 or 3 mediocre games I can remember, but the rest were all at least decent.
Or emulated because Mega-Drive games are hard to get.
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>>183583538
so....is it not the wrinkles ?
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>>183587798
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>>183587798
Hey Shadow, Maria is alive! It's a Miracle!
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>>183587521
Green Hill is in the bright day. As you progress it gets steadily darker, until you go through Star Light during the evening, and then Scrap Brain at sunrise. Sonic 1 takes place over the course of a single day.
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nice
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5uixts
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>>183587879
Oh

Oh thats just mean, you should feel ashamed
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>>183587521
Green Hill: Day
Marble: Afternoon
Spring Yard: Evening
Star Light: Night
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>>183583813
>It's 50 cents.
say what ?
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>>183587812
Did you buy Sonic '06?
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>>183587958
Ha fuck no
Borrowed it from a friend.
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>>183587831
Personal preferences. People could be attracted to that feature. Again, it varies between people with that fetish. Don't really want to go any further into detail because I think you get the picture already
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>>183587879
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I love the Sonic franchise!
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>>183588097
how to draw feet ?
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>>183565428
Oh wow, I really like that hairstyle on Bump
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>>183588325
References and practice. Just like with all anatomy, be it realistic or cartoony
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>>183588097
I'm not that anon, but do you know any people who talked about it before? You did establish that it depends on the person so it'd be okay, right?
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futility of life
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>>183577140
>>be you
>>get transported to Sonic World right now
>What would you do?

i would go around looking for cute female mobians
i would hugh them
and while they are distracted by the hug....
my hand would reach around their waist and,,,
and then i...
i would...
GRAB THEIR TAILS !!!
just like sonic does !!
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>>183577140
Seek out Sticks and see if she would be dtf
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I would have preferred the special stages from Saturn 3D Blast, Rush and others. I think Sonic 2's special stage style (automatic running inside pipes/half pipes while grabbing rings as much as possible) nails overall the personality of Sonic's franchise: a hedgehog runs fast and grab rings.

I personally believe the same stages has everything perfect to be the long-running special stages: simple but good handling of Sonic there, balanced difficulty where you can relax grabbing rings while being aware of explosing airbone mines, the great cool effect of seeing Sonic's characters running on theses half-pipes while seeing what's there ahead, the elements that can be interacted during the moments to keep the incentive of playing special stages (think the springs from 3D Blast Saturn or the eletric rope tag pairing from S4E2), and others. I really love it.

Of course, I need to see the full gameplay of Mania's apparent special stage before laying my opinions. It makes me think they are basing on CD's special stage, but I need to see more. Judging early is not cool.

Nevertheless, is that low-poly 3D Sonic model? Cool.

>>183581821
With Sonic, it's Ryan. It suits well with the sarcastic personality Sonic has on the comic.
With Tails, Robotnik and Knuckles, I think on the current voice actors.
With Amy, it's her Adventure and Heroes voice.

>>183587932
>>183587881
I just recently replayed Sonic 1, and I never noticed this. What about 2 and 3?
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>>183571124
I like to think of the 1992 manga parents being the canon parents, since Amy and Charmy come from that manga. Nicky Parlouzer's dad, Paulie or Poly, was a pilot with a plane that looked vaguely similar to the Tornado.

So, Poly gave Nicky/Sonic his plane, and Sonic used that to leave Christmas Island. Simple as that.
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>>183578969
>tail blade
>tuft
>bedroom eyes
Mercy!
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>>183577140
Depends, which "Sonic World"?, Game world (2 worlds,and if so the human one or the animal one), Comic world or Cartoon World? Am I an animal or human? Too many variables anon.
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>>183571124
Sonic had the Tornado before Westside Island. Sonic 2 takes place on Westside Island. Sonic crashlanded there, and met Tails.
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>>183588505
Oh god no, not at all. I'm just going off of what I've seen online
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>>183580785
Requesting Blaze version of "looking at burning garbage"
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>>183579380
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>>183581525
>We will never get Digital Love 2
Just end it already!

>>183582186
Requesting Reboot Sally dressed as Chie http://imgur.com/a/wjqT5
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>>183588427
but what make drawn feet sexy ?
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>>183577140
Would probably be ostracized for being a fat human like Eggman. Try to find a cave or something and try to survive, because since it's Sonic's World there is no Station Square or anything like that.
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>>183585942
I don't hate it, but I don't really like it.
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>>183589187
I think it's generally the shape. However, just solely (pun not intended) focusing on the foot in a picture can be a big turn off for some but also good for others
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>>183588682
Interesting
>>183588853
Mercy? here's your mercy... she's not real
>>183588953
i would do this for you if i could, but i don't have my tablet here...
i wold draw for Sonic Mania too desu
>>183589118
>We will never get Digital Love 2
never read it
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>>183578969

Jian needs to stay. I need more of this
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>>183589950
>never read it
If you can believe it its a Palcomix work that's actually GOOD
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>>183588808
>Angel Island Zone takes place in the morning
>Marble Garden Zone takes place in mid-afternoon
>Ending cutscene of Marble Garden transitions to night for Carnival Night Zone to take place in the evening
>Ice Cap Zone takes place the next morning
>Either the rest of the game is all in one day or Sandopolis Zone Act 2/Lava Reef Zone takes place at night and Sky Sanctuary and Death Egg Zone are the next day
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It's out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLcblxrrE0Q
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>>183590405
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>>183590654
Jians need to be removed.
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>>183590865
Eh, I dunno. It seems like it's trying too hard? Or it's too busy, just has too much going on.
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>>183590865
>Want to buy the soundtrack
>Don't have a record player
Why can't we just get a CD of this like every other Sonic game?
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>>183590865
It's kinda weak but everything else so far has been amazing so whateves
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>>183590997
You need to be removed.
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>>183591171
the ol' daberooni!
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>>183590820
impossible
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>>183590865
This is the first Mania song that I'm not really feeling. It's just "okay"
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>>183217749

This post is kinda creepy now
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>>183590997
that's not Brouzouf.
Also is the game gud?
It kinda slipped through my fingers and all i've ever heard about it was praise
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>>183582586
Wow so that took a lot longer than it should have, might work a little more loosely on the next few
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>>183591776
Yes, I just finished one ending and it's been fun stuff.
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>>183566115
We don't know that for sure. It says "go head-to-head with players in Competition Mode"
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Beat sonic CD for the first time. What are your opinions on this game? It's weird as shit but I liked it. Exploring the stages was a nice change of pace, and the soundtrack is pretty amazing. I think I liked it better than sonic 2, but I'm not sure yet.
Also Wacky Workbench zone 1 can go fuck itself.
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>>183590865
I like it.
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>shadic fags
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>>183591113
You get a digital version of it if you get the vinyl.
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>>183569440
Sonic's Tornado was destroyed.

Tails clearly rebuilt it with Tornado 2 mechanics in mind.
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>>183592113
It's my least favorite of the classic 4. Horrible level design.
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>>183592113
Honestly, I don't like it much. It's a bad Sonic game.

Racing Metal Sonic is one of the best moments of the franchise though.

A for effort and trying something new and interesting
>>
How do i decide on Mobian waifu?
What criteria should i follow?

Who would you waifu and why?
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>>183591834
she looks adorable! nice job anon!
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>>183586146
Holy shit I had no fucking idea

I went this far not knowing squirreltits and Amy have the same damn voice

This is crazy
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>>183592510
Pck the one that you most want to cuddle, and/or put your dick into
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>>183571523
I actually like this a lot, and will be adopting it into my personal headcanon.
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>>183592113
I liked it, it feels like Sonic 1 with a little more stuff in it.
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>>183592113
It's my favorite classic Sonic game.
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>>183592334
>calling it shadic and not sonadow
also
>not even thinking it's cute
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>>183592679
but i want to put my dick in many of them
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>>183590865
Nowhere near as infectious a tune as the last few tracks, but still pretty damn good. I am pleased.
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>>183592113
Best Sonic
Best US Soundtrack
Collision Chaos best zone
You Can Do Anything sucks
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>>183590865
You can say this was carefully composed and not badly-made, but still, I don't like it. The music doesn't sound like it belongs to a special stage. I think it's because the notes, the rhythm, the tempo, everything is coming to a mess. I can't keep up with it and tell what it's supposed to sound. Upbeat and energetic? Slow and calm? Fast and rush? Medium and normal? I dunno. Not only that, I also don't like the new invincibility and speed-up themes.

>>183590843
I forgot Marble Garden has that transition. Now that I remember it, I think it's obvious to notice it has time progressing, contrary to Sonic 1's thing.
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>>183592538
Thanks, she looks more like Sonia but I didn't want to completely redo her head for the fifth time, and just tried to fuss with it a bit to fix that. Glad you like it.

>>183592510
There is no criteria. If you have a song in your heart, you shouldn't be afraid to sing it unless that song happens to be gospel country like Christ on a fucking bike dude no. You want yourself a shy, thicc, glasses-wearing little cutie? You want yourself a cigarette smoking, tattoo laden, hair-dyed dyke? You into those anime womens that turn into the scantily clad superheroines and scream high-pitched catch phrases while tentacles have their way with them? You do you pally, ain't nobody on this gay green earth gonna stop you. And if you can't choose just one, well that's what harems are for. Get started on your harem cube today!

Just remember, no matter who you pick, your waifu is shit. SHIT!
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Opinion on Mania new track?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLcblxrrE0Q
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>>183592113
I'm not a fan of the level design. I liked that they tried to have you explore the stages but it's impossible to tell where you are at any point. Everything looks the same. Parts of the level repeat too often. Nothing stands out.

In say, Sonic 2's Hill Top Zone Act 1, you know you're almost done with the level as soon as you exit the underground section and see that loop. In Sonic 3 if you're playing as Knuckles, there's a room where you have to glide to get through because the floor is covered with spikes. When you're in this room, you know you're about done with the stage. Sonic CD is missing 'landmarks' like these.
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>>183592113
I like it a lot.
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>>183593361
>Just remember, no matter who you pick, your waifu is shit. SHIT!
what if it's your waifu too, doesn't it create a paradox?
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>>183593405
Its fuking great. Also sounds like a mix of previous specials if I'm not mistaken? Hard to believe Tee Lopes is doing all this music himself.
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>>183593405
It becoming harder and hard for me to wait on pre-ordering the vinyl.
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>>183593405
>>183590865
I enjoy other Special Stage themes a lot more. It's okay though.

I'd rate them but I'd have to relisten and such.
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>>183569440
What did it say in the Japanese version? I'd LIKE to say he said Tornado 3, but probably not.
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>>183593484
No, his is shit too.
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>>183592510
For me it's because I grew up in an impressionable time and she seemed to hit all the right notes. It's just a shame what happened to her after her major arc. Potential lost and all that. it's Mina. But I still try to have fun fiddling around with concepts and all that, like my headcanon that she's the singer for all the songs in Sonic R. All of the songs could easily fit in to the story of the Knothole Kingdom.

So yeah, it's mainly what works for you. What personality types you're into, what character design, etc.
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>>183589220
Only humans are an established thing in Sonic's world. As long as you're not a dick, you've got nothing to fear. Except landing in a universe where Eggman wins.
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>>183590865
Tee is the motherfucking 'G
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>>183594278
for now i would just decide on looks alone, from personality i only grasp Amy, Rouge and Sticks...
Where can i read comics and which one should i read?
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>>183592827
It feels like a fever dream version of sonic 1 which is something I really enjoyed. I can see why it's such a love it or hate it deal though. It's similar enough to the rest of the classic games and yet it's so different with it's focus on exploration and raw platforming. Also the level design can be a total mess at times.

>>183593263
Collision Chaos and Tidal Tempest are great. But c'mon dude, You Can do Anything is hype as fuck.
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>>183594519
Unless you go with the two Worlds theory. Mobinis would likely run in fear because the only human they'd have seen would be Eggman.
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What did Shadow mean by this?
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>>183594621
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>>183592510
Do some research on them and find one that relates more to you, or find one that looks cute to you.
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>>183594734
Huh, that one looks like the older version.
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>>183594734
>>183594964
that's a fucking lot, where do i read those?
is there a sikrit page somewhere?
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>>183594621
readcomiconline dot to
You should read whatever you'd want but it's up to you. Most people's recommendation is either Issue 1, 160, or 252. There should be a chart out there, I just don't have it on hand of the reading order for when the side comics should be read.

Amy's been around for a while, but current style Amy's been around since the Adventure adap
Rouge since Adventure 2 adap I think?
And Sticks, aside from the MegaMan crossovers, has been a Boom Comic only gal.

There's tons of other waifus, but if you start at the beginning, you can see the whole vast array of waifus.
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>>183595102
I thought there was a download here but all I personally have is the website tails.kicks-ass.net but you'd have to sign up for it.

Both Fleetway and Archie (separate comics altogether) should be there.
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>>183590865
I dig it. It gives the feeling of the fast paced disorder, so a slight feeling of... *ahem* "chaos"... yet the positive tone overall let's you know it's all right; Sonic has done this before, he knows what he's doing.

Can I just buy this game now? Please?
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Did some cleanup and updates to the drawfag wall in light of recent deliveries. If any more changes to deliveries or credits should be made, let me know.
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>>183567090
>>183567606
>>183567746
>>183568019
>404

Post the shit in trash.
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Speaking of which, does anyone have translations or anything about the mangas?
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>>183594726
hogs are so cute
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>>183595649
You feeling high and mighty for telling off those 10 hour old dead posts?
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>>183595362
damn i'm lost in those comics
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>>183590865
I have a few quarrels with this.
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>>183596417
What do you mean, anon?
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>>183596417
Keep it simple then, start at #1 and work your way up. The Archie version ain't going anywhere anymore so you have all the time in the World.
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>>183596417
There's something those anons forgot to tell you.

Start at 1, but go until you hate yourself. Don't push it any further. Then just skip to 160...believe me, you're gonna wanna do that.
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Sticks is for lewd
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>>183596582
no idea where to start
>>183596939
i am at

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zl9xLWJcULo/VtpCtp4MJKI/AAAAAAAACYE/crDVvsV8H5c/s1600-Ic42/RCO023.jpg


is this the one i should be reading?
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>>183596991
Absolutely.
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>>183594278
>when you never read the comic but can recognize Mina
I spent too much time on these threads
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>>183597028
Nope. A few issues earlier.
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>>183594964
Edited because Archie's version is done.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q-PdpYVHf0
They did it, absolute madmen.
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>>183593405
This new special stage theme is the weakest of all the tracks in Mania

But that's not really saying shit at all, because it's still damn good and I can totally see it getting absorbed into my head as I try this a billion times over for the emeralds.

If this is the lowest the soundtrack's gonna go I'm not worried at all
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>>183582726
One sad multidimensional force of terror, coming up
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>>183598776
Thanks, anon!
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Tee Lopes. Is Lo-pez or Lopes like in envelopes?
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>>183578195
That happens to me too, I was wondering if it happened to someone else.
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>>183599132
envelopes
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I think I know what's really going on here.
Infinite is not Buddy. Buddy is Infinite. Buddy, is Infinite's character, that he created. He created him to act like just a regular person, with a regular life, one that Infinite cannot have. Buddy is living a lie.
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>>183599363
No, Nakamura said Buddy is meant to be a civilian who helps save the world. Buddy is us. Unless you're implying we are Infinite as well
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>>183565428
how did fireden not save this? someone mind reposting elsewhere?
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>>183599363

It's becoming increasingly obvious that Buddy and Infinite are the main characters of Forces.
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>>183599669
>Buddy and Infinite are the main characters of Forces
>both cutscenes shown so far center around Modern Sonic
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>>183599132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2fXH_6J_fA
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>>183599564
Who else would try to fuck up Sonic that much if not the fans?
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>>183598776
He's gonna actually cry in Forces I bet
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>>183599649
https://yuki.la/vg/183565203#p183565428

It's also up on trash.
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can someone post the webm of IGN plays sonic
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>>183599564
>Unless you're implying we are Infinite as well
Well Infinite is an edgy DA donut steel self-insert
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>>183599851
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>>183596417
>>183597028
>Read issues 226-229
>Read the first Mega Man crossover
>Start at issue 252
>After you read issue 256, read issues 55-58 of Universe
>Alternate between the main series and Universe with every arc
>Keep reading until you get to the end
>Read older issues if you feel up to it at that point
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>>183599564
Yeah, he's a complete civilian, why would he be anything else? He's very normal, exactly what Infinite wants to be, just normal.
I mean, what you're saying is true, because it's a game, and developers tend to do that with their games. However, I'm talking about the actual story in this.
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>>183596991
I want to know what's lewd to Sticks
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>Beat Forces
>Unlock Infinite's parts int he CaC system
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>>183599931
I can't wait for all the frauds to be exposed again.
If nothing else about a Sonic release, it shows me who's opinions I can safely ignore.
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Breddy good game, good soundtrack, I miss the Super Peel Out, but Wacky Workbench gives me a tumor the size of a small dog's head.
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>>183600010
So you're suggesting Infinite is living vicariously through Buddy. But then why would he team up with Eggman, causing conflict which disrupts Buddy's life?
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>>183599931
Holy fuck how had I not seen this before.
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>>183600141
Yep. With Mania people can't even complain about the screen size and how you can't see where you're going. Widescreen, bitches. This is going to be better than Sonic 3&K. I can feel it.
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>>183600141
>>183600371
Frauds?
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>>183565556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vhYncaa9VA
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>>183600190
Hmm, not really sure.
My only thought is to make Buddy into a hero? I mean, some complete "random" civilian becomes a total badass hero that completely saves Sonic?
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>>183600439
Faggots who complain about shit in reviews but are obvious just fishing for clicks. Like that Unleashed review.
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>>183600019
Are you asking why people lewd Sticks or things that would turn Sticks on.
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>>183600009
damn
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Yeah!
Yo!
I'm the tallest of mountains!
I'm the roughest of ways!
I'm the toughest of terrors!
I'm the darkest of days!
I'm the last one withstanding don't try to stand in my way!
Cuz I gave up it gets better just take a look at my face!
Cuz if you're messing with me I'm a dangerous weapon!
I'm the sharpest of blades I've cut you down in a second!
Cuz I was porn in this pain it only hurts if you let it!
So if you think you can take me then you should go and forget it!
And after all this time you're back for more!
I won't stop until they know my name know my name!
So I tail once mine and savage war!
I'm coming at you like a title wave title wave title wave!
When everything you know has come and gone!
You're at your lonest I'm rising higher!
All disguise we made are throwing away!
We'll find in the ashes your losing desire!
When there's no one left to carry you this is an illusion open your horizon!
Stay possessed!
I can't resist!
Boy that's what it takes to be infinite!
Yeah!
So look around you and tell me what you really see!
I never rend and that's the different, it's you and me!
Cuz swing your time is up and everything is falling down!
It's only me and you who is gonna save you now!
So look around you and tell me what you really see!
You living lie and that's the different, it's you and me!
I am the power let me show you what it's all about!
It's only me and you who is gonna save you now!
Save you now! (Reverb into finish)
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>>183600439
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkmMCjYKvaQ
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>>183598776
But Buddy tried to make you his buddy.
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>>183600808
>>183601018
Ah. They're gonna have a tough time hating Mania. I think it's going to be on par with S3&K if not better thanks to its physics.
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>>183601078
They hate S3&K
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>>183601021
>"Come on, Mickey. You remember our secret handshake don't you?"
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>>183601078
There's enough folks invested hard enough in "Sonic was never good" that you'll see a few. Guaranteed. Right now, there's a bunch of fags who had that opinion just a few months ago who are going back on it in prep. Not everyone gets that memo, though.
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>>183600994
Great work, finally some accurate lyrics.
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>>183600994
Jesus. Was this done with a voice to text script or something?
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>>183601119
>>183601275
Well, shit.
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>>183601246
"Do you remember the combination lock?"
"Come on old man, it's 2-10-11. Eyes, fingers, toes"
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>>183594015
the tornado 3 is already in sonic adventure 2 actually, it would have to be tornado 4
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>>183600810
Second of course
I'm sure what turns Sticks on is too lewd even for /sthg/
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>>183574412
Penders can certainly say all these things, but it doesn't make it true. Either he's deluded himself or he's really good at keeping up the con, but he has no rights to anything he thinks he does. The only thing that he could possibly have is maybe royalties to reprints of back issues of the comic he worked on, and even that's unlikely considering he settled out of court with Archie.
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>>183601587
Isn't the the Tornado 2 + Cyclone?
Totally official name.
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>>183601823
Yuck
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>>183601078
I'm going to blow your mind here anon.

Outside of classicfag circlejerks like /sthg/, nobody gives the slightest fuck about the physics or "momentum" of the classic games. Normies could never tell you why the classic games are the best, objectively or subjectively. Generations is often listed as the fan-favorite Sonic game now, over the classics.

IGN self-admittedly hate Sonic anyways.

That being said, Mania is still going to score high with them, because they know its a big deal and a true successor to the classic games, and they have the shed the stigma that they don't understand that the classic games are good.
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>>183601823
>"I'm not still riding off of Sonic's Coat tails! LSC is it's own thing!"
>Th-This is my own original character uh...Blonic! Yeah! No one's heard of that one before, right?

When Ken Penders doesn't have something to trace, he's a terrible artist. I would not doubt that foot tickling sketch he did was traced from actual foot tickling porn.
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>>183601018
Didn't they backtrack on that video super hard?
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>>183601823
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Is Infinite theme so edgy and AMV tier intentionally?
I can't believe this is meant to be taken serious.
I just can't, this is like some shitty nigger ghetto music blasting from car
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>>183579195
Penders stuff had potential, but a lot of it was also just lifted from other series. Not that that's inherently a bad thing, since all creative work is just reworking your inspirations; Penders just didn't bother reworking them much. But it still allowed for other writers, like Ian and Bollers, to do more with them.
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>>183601018
>Green Hill from Sonic 2
Dropped, right there.
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>>183602009
They may not be able to break down the physics like we do, but perhaps they'll just note that it "feels right" and put that towards review score.
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>>183601823
This makes me feel really bad for you comic people. I can't believe you guys had to put up with that.
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>>183601823
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>>183601823
Who is this abomination
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>>183601823
I preferred when Sonic had fangs.
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>>183601823
Looks good. I mean, the shading looks good.
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>>183601823
It's like he's wearing a mask of his own face but it's one of those crappy knock off ones from the dollar store and everything smells like formaldehyde and latex
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>>183601823
WHAT IN GOD'S NAME IS THAT
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Why do Sonic characters that use this mouth design look so much better when their mouths are closed and lips are invisible?
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>>183601823
it's like he can draw every individual body part decently but none of them fits with the other so the end result is some frankenstein monster of mismatched body parts
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>>183601823
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>>183601823
F U N
I S
I N F I N I T E
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>one second you're contemplating genocide
Can we have Genocide City Zone now?
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>>183601823
He must be doing this on purpose. This is a joke to him. There is no way he thinks that looks good.
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>this is what storyfags actually believe
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>>183602984

to be fair, it's clear by now that Penders hasn't even touched a video game in his life
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>>183602984
He really fucking wants to work on Sonic again, it's as clear as day. I don't think he gives a shit about his Lara-Su Chronicles.
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>>183601823
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>tfw it's too late for Sonic to pull a hard reboot to fix all the story mistakes and start doing proper worldbuilding
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>>183603141
Of course he does, because working on an established franchise means more people will notice you. Not a single sane individual will touch LSC with a 10" pole unironically.
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>>183581081
I just like Cybershell's voice and character. You don't really see someone with a character like him so popular on youtube. Sure it may be well known information, but he manages to at least make it entertaining. There isn't really anybody like him on youtube right no in regards to Sonic.
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>>183603141
>Ken will never work on a Sonic game
>But Iizuka will
B-better the devil you know, right?
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>>183603141
He would drop that shit like a rock if IDW offered him a spot.
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>>183603216
Or they can just continue to establish new places, elements, stories and characters that contradict previous ones creating a completely nonsensical lore that only makes sense if you choose to ignore certain things.
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>>183602984
Nothing wrong with story, and the mythos and background setting/lore can be pretty cool. (Just look at basically everything about Angel Island)

Sonic Battle showed that even in the games, characters can be written to be funny, interesting and compelling enough to carry an emotional arc.

Ken is still a retard though. He's only flirting around with this idea in his head because he has this fantasy of being able to sue IDW for trying to "steal" "his" ideas. It's blatantly obvious that is what is going through his mind. The first thing he said when he heard the news was "muh rights", because he needs to stay relevant and remind everyone that his precious ideas and characters will be defended when IDW tries to come for them.
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>>183602009
>Generations is often listed as the fan-favorite Sonic game now, over the classics.

I thought SA2B was the franchise's fan favorite game? Did that change recently?
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Why do you guys like Ken Penders so much?
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>>183603604

We like making fun of him.
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>>183603450
>Penders gets hired by IDW whilst Ian, ABT, Yardley and the other comic saviours are turned away

Post yfw
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>>183603604
He makes me laugh.
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>>183603546
No it didn't. It's just Boostfags spreading misinformation again.
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>>183603692
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>>183603692
Can't happen in this timeline
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>>183603141
>yfw you realize Penders sued because he thought Archie would re-hire him rather than lose the glorious echidna storyline
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>>183603450
>>183603692
>IDW offers him a job
>one of the contract conditions is that he turns over all ownership of all material he's ever done on any Sonic-related property, including but not limited to the Archie comics
>has him write exactly one off panel and then fires him immediately after
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>>183603692
Cause it will only happen in Ken's wildest dreams.
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>>183599165
It has happened to me sometimes, but never with that huge quantity of tabs. At the limit, I would let 2 archived threads get past of my eye, and only if the general goes REALLY fast. I'm a slow poster and prefer slow pace, but I'm really curious over how is that person you quoted was able to leave this great amount of threads past of his attention.

>>183601823
It's the eyes, the teeth and the particular skin between Sonic's eyes that are making this draw look hideous and scary. Ken is really good at putting unnecessary details on simple characters.
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>>183603692
>yfw they let him work for IDW if he sells all the rights to his characters and ideas to Sega and them.

I can believe him actually doing it if they promise he can write Knuckles again.
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>>183603830
Now that would be fucking magical.
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>>183603546
It's both really.

Generations and SA2 are the big two. (Although SA2 mostly just for Adventurefags)
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>>183604142
Why do adventurefags like SA2 over SA1? Because the story and music are better? Everything else is pretty much worse.
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>>183604064
You know what? Fuck yeah, I don't want this man to be beaten through Sonic comics living, I want him to be fucking castrated and cuck by IDW as hard as he did to Sega, Bioware and Archie.
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>>183603830
>>183604064
Too perfect
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>>183604224
Story, music, Shadow, ect
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>>183603216
>Caring about story this much
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Is it true that Nocturnus are inspired by Penders's Dark Legion?
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>>183603505
I like that idea. Let's do that.
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>>183604503
Yeah. But they were better characters.
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I care way too much about Sonic characters.
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I dislike this slimeball as much as the next anon, but you've gotta admit that even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Reminder.
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>>183603772
I'm pretty sure he actually said at some point that that was his reason. Of course, he also said in an interview Sonic HQ way back in the day that nothing in the comics belongs to him and he works on a for-hire basis, so it shows how much he cares about even keeping his own word.
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>>183604064
Can't sell them something they already own.
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Why is Ken obsessed with Echidnas anyways? And why only them specifically?
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>>183604793
I mean, he might as well have said "Water is wet"

If you want a good thing to get better, adding other good things to it is the only way to make it better. Just making the same thing better is only going to give diminishing returns.
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>>183601823
thing of pure nightmares
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>>183605143
He's a lorefag. Not necesarilly a bad thing, I am too.

The Echidnas are the most mysterious thing about the classic games, so he ran with them, and became so obsessed with the idea that he "defined" the lore that he basically thinks he owns the very idea of Knuckles's history now.
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>>183605143
They're Echid'nyas, not Echidnas.
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>>183605180
I don't know if Penders knows that water is wet. I don't think he bathes.
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>>183574917
>>183575263
>>183575340
>>183575543
>>183575613
>>183575801
I should've been more clear. Penders owns "evil Sonic" and "evil Sonic's world". We can't have a "Mirror, Mirror" style Sonic plot because of him.
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>>183604224
The controls for the Sonic stages are so much better than in Adventure. The physics feel perfect. You're right that everything else is worse though. It's just that whenever people replay SA2, they usually just play the Sonic/Shadow stages (maybe Knuckles stages too for animals) so that's all they think remember when they think about the game.
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>>183604224
I don't, no idea what that nigger is talking about.
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>>183605356
This. Except music and story are better in adventure. the alternative gameplays are also better in adventure
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>>183605318
If Iizuka wanted an evil Sonic, he could make it happen. Penders couldn't do a thing.
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>>183604503
Yes. Bioware wanted, and was encouraged by SEGA, to reference various aspects of the Sonic franchise in the game. That's also why they have Swatbots and poor MIDI renditions of classic songs. The problems with Penders started because he's a delusional narcissistic who doesn't know what the word "homage" means. A sane person would've said, "Wow, my work on this comic is being recognized as important and influential by the developers of the original games." He said, "SEGA stole my shit?! I'm going to sue even though the game came out five years ago and neither I nor my lawyer know how video game profits work and will get laughed out of court by the judge."
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>>183605556
The concept of a multiverse anti-Sonic is such a broad and generic concept that I honestly think it's impossible for him to have any grounds to sue, same with the concept of Sonic having any fucking parents.
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>>183605318
correction, he owns the name Evil Sonic and Moebius. There is no way he could actually throw a jacket and shades on a Sonic character and say he owns it.
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>>183604793
I think it depends, Sonic existed as a game first, and Mania is looking to be the best thing Sonic has right now.

Also, he hasn't even played the games.
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>>183605556
>>183605832
>>183605837
Again, we're talking about Penders here. It's a literal possibility for him to own those things, yet he does. Why do you think the reboot comics stayed far away from a Moebius concept? And you know IDW is going to stay away from it too.
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>fatders claiming someone out there is paying him $8000+ a month to make storyboards

why is he such a fucking liar?
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>>183606068
>It's a literal possibility
IMpossibility**
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>>183605356
But those stages are mostly worse too. The only one that feels like an improvement over the past stages is fucking Final Rush.
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>>183605143
When he was given the Knuckles comics he basically just used it to write his original comic idea with a thin veneer of Sonic. The two are now so conflated in his mind that he thinks he created Knuckles.
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>>183606075
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Man I haven't played the adventure games in a decade.
I doubt I won't like it but I hate those Knuckle/Rouge stages in 2 by how they only show where an emerald is at one at a time and you need to play the stages multiple times to memorize the locations where the shards randomly are put if you want a good time.
Also if I remember correctly the space stages were way too big.
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>>183606068
The reboot wanted to stay close to the games and Penders suing Sega for using the concept of the evil version of a character they own would be laughed at in court. Sega owns the rights to Sonic, there is literally no way Penders could own Evil Sonic. He didn't even win the Bioware lawsuit, so there is no way he would win another case like it.
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>>183606068
It's impossible for him to own those things, and he doesn't own those things. But he acts and could very well have convinced himself he owns those things. Since the settlement with Archie had a non-disclosure agreement, as Ian pointed out repeatedly when people asked about things that were covered by it, we have to take anything Penders says with even more of a grain of salt than we already would given his character.
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>Virtually no one in the USA, including most hardcore Sonic fans, even knew SONIC THE COMIC existed. I didn't find out about it until 2001.
https://twitter.com/KenPenders/status/889120538097930240
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>>183606236
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>>183606236
I assume he's referencing when he briefly worked on a Bratz cartoon, which he obviously isn't doing anymore.
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>>183606236
>>183606075
Sounds like he just went to Glassdoor to look up what average salaries for Storyboard Artists

That's for top tier studios. What the fuck has he worked on for any of them?
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>>183590865
I didn't instantly wow me, but over the course of listening to it a couple of times, it's thoroughly decent. I'll have to see what I think of it paired with actual Special Stage gameplay.
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>>183606527

IIRC he storyboarded a couple of episodes of KotH too.
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>>183606403
I literally had the fucking Mega collection as a kid, it didn't take me until years later to register that that was actually real.
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>>183606385
Not only did he not win the Bioware lawsuit, it didn't even go to trial. The judge threw it out because it was obvious not even Penders' lawyer knew what he was talking about.
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How was Archie so inept that they let Penders win?
I'm so glad Sega ditched them and moved on, Archie did more harm than good due to how carelessly they treated the franchise. If we keep the same writers from Archie for IDW, there's only benefits from it.
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>>183593596
Honestly that kinda concerns me. The man is talented and everything (barring the Special Stage music) has been great so far, but he has a fairly narrow range, imo.
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>>183606748
Legal anon here. A couple things. One, their attorneys didn't understand the objective of their client at all. They wanted to bring a quick and swift end to the conflict with 0 involvement from Sega. They instead went with a strategy that would inevitably HAVE to lead to a trial because they were arguing a question of fact which must come before a judge or jury.

Two. Because they didn't consider the entire deal, and just focused on Penders himself. If they read the Sega contract, they would have done what the second legal team did first.
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>>183606748
Penders did not win. The Archie lawsuit did not go to trial. They settled out of court and we do not know the exact terms of the settlement other than what Penders has said on Twitter, which should be taken with a heft amount of salt.

Archie is no doubt an incompetent company. They lost many of their files in a fire years ago, including original copies of contracts. They had a photocopy of Penders' contract for the Sonic comics, but in the pre-trial arguments Penders' lawyer argued that that was falsified. SEGA also did not want to get involved, because they didn't did view Penders as an issue. They knew everything belonged to them, and as long as the comics could keep having Sonic the Hedgehog in them then that's all that really matters. They were also busy buying Atlus at the time, which might have factored into it. SEGA however was breathing down Archie's neck to just get it over with, so a settlement was the easiest way after all their other bungling.
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>>183605837
This. If they really wanted to, they could have Scourge appear in the reboot and just not mention his backstory. If Penders said anything, they could just go "He's always been Scourge, he was never Evil Sonic, he's a different character." If he had the gall to go to court again over that, he would only end up making a bigger fool of himself.
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>>183605787
That's just sad.
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>>183599931
Come on, be nice. Everyone's gotta learn to traverse loops sometime.
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>>183603692
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>>183607219
If he went to court, both parties would lose money. Bringing back Scourge just isn't worth it.
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>>183607219
This I don't know so much, I think Scourge is legally owned by Penders due to his back story, and while they could easily have just cut out the backstory the courts or whoever didn't see it that way. The real question is how the fuck does he even own Evil Sonic at all, the name alone should make it Sega's character automatically.
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>>183566659
I only now just realized that the backgrounds are just photos. How lazy is this for Comic standards?
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>>183607502
Honestly, as I look through this, if he goes after Scourge again at IDW, nothings fucking safe. He's a vexatious litigant attempting to push Sega off their rightful IP with legal proceedings. I'd go after him and not stop until trial. There's now enough Vexatious Litigant precedent in IP that I would gladly risk it on the off chance I bankrupt the motherfucker so he can never pull this shit again.

Companies NEED to protect their IP. It just sucks that Sega has decided that they want to weakly protect this shit while doing stuff like the Atlus P5 stream ban.
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>>183606951
Do you think SEGA not filing an amicus brief had more to do with Archie not asking them, Sega not thinking it was worth it and being annoyed the case kept getting brought up, or their legal team being otherwise occupied with the Atlus buyout? I doubt SEGA's legal team is that small that it would be the last, especially since this would be SoA's problem not SoJ's, but the timing also lines up pretty well.

>>183607341
And it's not even like the Dark Legion/Nocturnus were that original of an idea either. Evil members of a race of character who thought he was the last of his kind, trapped in a prison dimension where time passes differently? Literally Kryptonians.

>>183607520
He doesn't own him. He just keeps saying he does.
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>>183606951
Given that the contract with Sega specifies that the characters belong to Sega and not Archie, what validity is there in Archie giving the rights to the characters to Penders? Could Sega, hypothetically, challenge this?
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>>183607770
>He doesn't own him. He just keeps saying he does.
Then why did they settle? Why does Archie have to pay royalties if they want to use his concepts and characters?
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>>183607964
Because they didn't want to go to court.
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>>183601823
>defined arms and legs
It's like a really bad mascot outfit
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>>183607964
Who said Archie has to pay royalties? He says they do, but we don't have any actual evidence of that. The only thing that might have royalties for Penders is reprints of backissues, but that gets into publishing issues not IP right issues.

Also settling is quicker and less expensive than going to court. Most companies will aim for settlements, especially when they're a licensee at risk of losing their license because of their incompetence.
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>>183607770
I don't know anything about the negotiations, but if I was Archie's lawyers, I would have been suggesting they cut a deal with Sega to pay for the legal fees of Sega's attorneys to write a brief by taking less in the licensing cut for a little while. Sega has an internal legal team (I really want to work for them) and external counsel in the form of Fenwick and West, who handle most of their copyright concerns. Fenwick would have easily eaten the work of writing one brief for one case. It wouldn't have been that expensive, and it would have brought the fucking thing to an end. Instead, they wasted tons of money and dragged it out for years on end in a frantic bid to do it themselves.

It's sorta that old adage: Nothing wastes more time than people trying to save time.

Same thing goes for money in legal proceedings. Nothing wastes more money than people trying to save money.
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>>183601823
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!
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>>183593405
The name alone sounds really cool.
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>>183607520
Scourge's backstory: He's an evil version of Sonic from an alternate universe that likes to cause mayhem in other alternate universes.

That's it. Everything after that was all Ian's doing. There is no way Penders could own that concept because too many people have done it before him and his isn't specific enough. By Penders' own logic, a rebooted Scourge would be as far removed from Evil Sonic as pic related is from Knuckles.

>>183607520
>The real question is how the fuck does he even own Evil Sonic at all, the name alone should make it Sega's character automatically.
That's pretty much my point.
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>>183607902
They could, but Sega was apparently at the negotiations. No doubt Penders' attorney will bring that up.

The fact of the matter is, Penders probably doesn't actually own the characters. The agreement seemed to be that Sega/Archie will steer clear of Penders' characters and Penders gets to use the characters without threat of lawsuit as long as he drops the case. Ostensibly, Sega owns the characters, but if Penders uses them and Sega does nothing, their claim will come under question, and a judge will take that into account in future cases. I'd say that Lara-su, Geoffrey St. John, and anyone else who appeared in that LSC abortion or any promotional materials is probably irreparably gone from Sega's grasp if they wanted to try and claw it back.
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>>183608472
But everything appealing about Scourge WAS his backstory.
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>>183601823
he can't possibly think this looks good
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>>183600994
>porn in this pain

Infinite lyrics pls
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>>183608472
I honestly want him to publish his comic already and have Sega sue the fuck out of him.
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>>183608721
Remember the anon that asked for Infinite lewd? Maybe he wrote this.
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>>183607737
Almost as lazy as single color backgrounds with no gradient.
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>>183601823
The shading looks so bad and plastic-y that I thought he was drawing Shard initially.
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>>183602984
From what I can read in this alone he's phrasing it like the ENTIRE Archie archive is derived from him. You do you Penders, you absolute fuck
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>>183608812
Do you think they could bring in Pierrot as a co-plaintiff because of The Hat™?
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>>183608610
True but the character can still work without it.

Just make him an evil loving asshole like Negaduck or something.
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Would you fug Shadow?
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>>183608998
Hey, me too.
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>>183604941
Holy shit, Star Wars stole from Penders?!?
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>>183609040
That's basically how his mind works. When he was on the comic he always either ignored or deliberately contradicted what the other writers did, which lead to a feud between him and Bollers ending with the greatest arc of the Dark Ages wherein Bollers killed off almost all of the echidnas and made a parody of Penders' various echidna characters who ended up being a much better echidna villain than any of Penders', though that was mainly Ian.
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>>183609336
Star Wars, Star Trek, the Bible, Superman, Heavy Metal, the Holocaust... All of them shameless rip-offs of the incredible, groundbreaking work of Ken Penders.
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>>183609604
>the Holocaust
I still can't believe that fuckhead tried to defend that shit.
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>>183609676
Wait, Penders said Hitler did nothing wrong?
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>>183609838
No but he defended shamelessly plagiarizing a Holocaust poem.
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>>183591834
ohmaigawd thanks anon!
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>>183609838
No, but he did take a Holocaust Poem and re-purpose it for Echidna's
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>>183609838
No, but he equated Jewish people and other victims of the Holocaust to fictional talking cartoon animals.
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>>183609285
That's gay dude.
Pls go somewhere else this is a gay-free thread.
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>>183610027
My bad, I haven't read it in a while, just had it sitting on my computer for use.
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>>183610027
>>183610093
This isn't your average everyday autism. This is advanced autism.
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Why does every thread become the Ken Penders general?
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>>183610485
Because i'm awesome and everybody loves me.
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>>183610415
Get this, he said that it was okay because "His jewish friend said so" and that it was protected because it was "a parody"
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>>183610485
This happened recently because the comics were canceled and picked up by IDW within the same week.
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>>183610485
>barely a mention of Penders for hundreds of threads
>some even get deleted when they do happen
>threads around the time the comics got transferred from Archie to IDW talks about one of the people responsible
Use your brain.
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>>183610485
Because the biggest comic news in years just occurred, which means both the general and Penders will be talking about it more. And whenever Penders talks about the comics it's either infuriating or hilarious.
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>>183610485
I'm not a comicfag, but even I'm pissed off by the things he says. Most of his tweets are utter bullshit and his "art" is atrocious.
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>>183610643
This man will never fail to be a source of entertainment.
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>>183593484
>what if it's your waifu too, doesn't it create a paradox?
you have to claim it before someone in the thread does !
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>>183610643
You are a parody Mr. Penders.
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South Island is apparently next to Central City.

Take that, Iizuka.
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>>183594621
https://tails.kicks-ass.net/
u need an account in order to see them
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>>183610952
Maybe the orange line is the dimensional barrier between the two worlds?
JK, I think too Izuka says bullshit.
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>yfw Penders winds up in the loony bin like pic related
>spouting gibberish about Knuckles every day
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>>183610952
Bonus revers are not canon
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>>183610952
Two Worlds is bullshit that I don't even think Iizuka thinks is legit.
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>>183611079
That would mean that Prison Island would also be on another world.
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>>183611292
What qualifies as a bonus then, Izuka? Does this mean that Super Sonic wasn't actually canon until Adventure when it was mandatory to finish the game?
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>>183611270
Nah, he always wanted to write a story about hyper-technological indians, but he probably realized nobody would promote that shit so he used the Echidnas to vent his deepest desires.
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>>183611270
Penders would just be a crazy homeless guy if his wife weren't rich. Unless it's the financial security that allows him to be crazy, and he would've tried to maintain some level of human decency if he actually had to fend for himself.
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>>183611421
Super Sonic was canon in Sonic 3 & Knuckles because you needed all the emeralds to get the true ending.
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>>183610952
Has there been a concept so universally rejected by the fandom? I have not seen a single person by into the "two worlds" proclamation.
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>>183611676
I've bought into it.
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>>183611676
Because you can literally sense the smell of shit since it came up straight from Izuka's ass.
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>>183611676
I believe in there being two worlds. Sonic's and Blaze's
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>>183610485

Penders is more interesting than a dumb blue rat.
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>>183611676
Nobody bitched when Sonic X did it.
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Someone feel free to prove otherwise, but to my knowledge this is the only evidence of "two worlds" being a concept from Iizuka/Sonic Team, and it's a flimsy premise by any measure.

I'm not saying Iizuka doesn't say stupid stuff a lot, and he definitely has a tendency to explain continuity errors much later than preferred, but two worlds doesn't seem like it's supposed to actually be a thing.
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>>183611976
Probably because we were all kids back then.
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>>183611976
Plenty of people did. You were probably just too young to be allowed on the internet by yourself.
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24 days until Mania
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>>183611421

Super Emeralds, Hyper Sonic and any super forms for Knuckles and Tails are non-canon bonuses.
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>>183612053
Aaron said it on a podcast, and some guy on either Sonic Retro or SSMB found details of two worlds in an updated Sonic bible. Said guy also found the "only male hedgehogs can go super" mandate, so it is credible.
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what a cute fucking rat!
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>>183612053

Oh, it's a thing. They clarified it in a recent interview about Sonic Mania.
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>>183612053
It's a way to say the games have continuity and everything in the franchise has happened before, while at the same time, not trying to pretend Shadow The Hedgehog and Lost World happened in the same world and timeline.

It's a spineless compromise between a soft reboot and a sequel.
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>>183611976
Because that show didn't have established locations in either world when it started.
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>>183601823
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>>183612307
>Only male hedgehogs can go Super
>yfw this also applies to Forces
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>>183612053
I think "two worlds" is supposed to be a figure of speech, as in, there's a portion of Mobius/Sonic's World with humans and there's a portion without them. Whether they're separated clearly is ambiguous.

However, the classic games taking place in a different dimension or whatever is stupid. Couldn't the visual differences between modern and classic designs and behavior be chalked up to Mobian puberty or something? Better yet, they can just go unexplained, like lots of other discrepancies in the series.
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Until this whole two-worlds bullshit is actually brought up and made relevant in the games' narrative, Iizuka and Aaron are just full of shit.
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>>183612307
Why only male hedgehogs? It's a reference to the fact that until DB Super a common theory was that only male Saiyans can go Super Saiyan?
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>>183612307
>>183612342
>>183612380
Every time they talk about it's so vague though and sounds more like "There's a part of the planet where more humans live and a part where more crazy stuff happens.", which is really what the execution has been anyway. Aaron talking about it wasn't very convincing either, considering that, as much as we like him, he's just the PR guy for SoA, not an actual part of Sonic Team, and he didn't sound too convinced himself:

>To my understanding, personally, is that yeah, it does kinda work like that; there's this human world and this non-human world, but to be honest with all of the different Sonic universes and timelines and intertwined stories and weird timeshifts, I find it easier for my conscience and my brain to simply separate these all into sort of into their respective eras, like the Classic era is in this storyline and the Dreamcast era's over here and then there's sort of the next. That's kinda how I do it at least, but yeah apparently there are these kinda like two worlds, sorta similar to Sonic X. That's how the SEGA of Japan created games for the most part fit into... yeah.

>Okay, so they're two planets. Two separate planets.

>Something like that, yeah.
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>>183611976
>>183611676
The difference is you can tell Iizuka is just pulling this shit out of his ass as a way to explain the design inconsistencies of Sonic over the years.
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>>183612307
>"only male hedgehogs can go super"

I still hate this. I'm pretty sure that's why in Heroes Knuckles and Tails got gold bubbles instead of their super forms. It would've been perfect if it happened that way.
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>>183611976
Because there is worked. They didn't have Sonic already existing with humans and then out of nowhere say that they are from two different worlds.
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>>183612140
>24 days
>576 hours
>34560 minutes
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>>183610784
i don't think it's possible at this point
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>>183611479

Isn't his wife a lawyer actually? Which seems weird since he doesn't get copyright law at all.

How the fuck did this autist even managed to get married?
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>>183612624
Probably. It's also both limiting it to just hedgehogs, who outside of S3&K are the only ones going super with the Chaos Emeralds (Blaze and the Sol Emeralds are a different concept for the purposes of this argument), and nipping in the bud people asking for Super Amy.
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>>183612857
How does Iizuka explain Super Mecha Sonic?
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>>183612604
Aaron said to wait until Forces came out before saying anything about Classic Sonic and alternate dimensions.
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>>183612957
Probably never officially referred to as that, and also just a robot powering up with Chaos energy being different than a Super Form. Similarly, Perfect Chaos isn't Super Chaos.
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>>183612857
But don't the Chaos Emeralds grant great power to those who collect all 7?
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>>183612957
Mecha Sonic is a machine.
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>>183612341
HEDGEHOG!
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>>183612604
If Classic Sonic in Forces is from another dimension, then it's probably not so much that the classic games were all a different dimension, just this Sonic who looks similar to Sonic's classic design is from another dimension. He is a significantly lighter shade of blue than classic Sonic ever was.
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>>183613123
It can grant you miracles and turn your thoughts into power, however only a male hedgehog can access the limitless strength of a "Super" state.
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>>183599931
and then we are the ones called autistic
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>>183613123
They could make that mean anything they want to really. They could straight-up make the Chaos Emeralds into the Dragon Balls if they felt like it.
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>>183613359
...so the dragon balls?
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>>183612957
Robot male hedgehog
Does this mean Metal could go super?
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>>183565573
How would Sonic be getting cucked? He (not counting Boom Sonic) doesn't like Amy as anything more than a friend.
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>>183613440
Kind of. But you have to have all 7 for the whole "thoughts into power" thing. However, machines and male hedgehogs can absorb strength/power from an individual Emerald.
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>>183599931
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>>183578969
FUCKING JIAN SCUM
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>>183613470
Because Knuckles is black.
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>>183613624
Leave it to IGN to do a shitty review of an already shitty Sonic game and not even be able to get it right.
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>>183607361
I learned to do it when I was 5. They're doing this so they have an excuse to shit on the franchise again and say it was never good.
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>>183612140
Shadow reveal when?
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Sonic the hedgehog is a video game
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>>183613807
Think that one was Gamespot actually, but the point still stands.
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>>183613734
that's not Brouzouf
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>>183613624
Good fucking lord, even Dark Syde Phil isn't this bad.
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>>183613861
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>>183613105
>Perfect Chaos isn't Super Chaos.

It technically is. A super form is just a transformation thats powered by chaos energy. Perfect Chaos is powered by negative Chaos energy.
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>>183614083
But he isn't called Super Chaos, and for "only male hedgehogs can go super" you need to be incredibly pedantic.
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You think since this is the Saturn Sonic game that never was we'll get a NiGHTS cameo? Sonic Team used to put him in everything back when they still seemed to have some passion for their work. Also hoping for a not-shit Metal Sonic fight.
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>>183614106
>make "fem" version of character
>don't change facial characteristics at all
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>>183613184
Yes. That was my point. Mecha Sonic has displayed a super form despite not being a male hedgehog.
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>>183614106

i'm not sure what i was expecting
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>>183614106
Is this Sonic Forces?
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>>183601823
I thought the Echydnya Designs were just a terrible artistic choice but no, this is genuinely what he thinks Sonic should look like.

It's fucking horrifying.

I like knowing that even though I can't draw, I make Sonic at least not half as horrifying as this.
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>>183613861
Is it a good one?
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>>183601823
I'm now convinced that Captain America drawing was a trace
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>>183614547
What are you talking about?
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>>183601823
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>>183614508
Sometimes
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>>183614253
He is a male hedgehog. He's just a robotic male hedgehog.
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>>183614635
https://twitter.com/KenPenders/status/888555264579850240
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>>183601823
Jesus fuck.
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>>183613440
Only if you don't know what the dragonballs do, I guess.
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>>183601823
Oh god
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>>183614412
>not half as horrifying
The man's truly talented. He should go into Tim Burton imitating and peddle his pretentious crap under the guise of artsy darkness. He'd actually have fans again.
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>>183614547
It's a bad trace though.
I'll give him some credit knowing where to apply some shading, but this guy's eye is at least an inch above his other eye.
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>>183614204
That's why I said technically. Super forms are literally transformations caused by absorbing chaos energy. The games made loopholes to the male hedgehog rule to allow Blaze to have some kind of equivalent transformation.
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>>183614963
I was genuinly surprised when he uploaded this, but his follow up really sunk his credibility.

Here's the original, btw
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>>183614963
Penders should just stick to drawing humans, not hedgehogs.
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>>183614963
>>183615158
>So this is the power... of tracing control?
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>>183604503
Will we ever see her again?
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>>183614412
Echy'dny'a design was partially due to the legal agreement between sega and Penders. He could make LSC as long as the characters didn't resemble Sega's designs.
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>>183615592
No.
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>>183615592
No
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>>183614753
No part of Mecha Sonic him is organic. Calling him a hedgehog would be like calling Mecha Knuckles an echidna.

>>183615002
The loophole being that Burning Blaze isn't considered a "real" super form despite functioning just like one.
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>>183615592
I miss her.
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>>183615592
Probably not.
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>>183615592
No
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>>183615652
But Mecha Knuckles is an echidna. Just a robotic one.
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>>183601823
Okay no, he HAS to be trolling.
There's just... no way.
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>“This is Sonic’s last chance… I’ve been hurt too many times… I don’t want to be hurt again…”
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>>183615592
I hope so. I miss her.
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>>183601823
Can't stop laughing. How do I describe "humorous" and "horrified" together as one?
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Is this the rat general?
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>>183615893
This is also coming from people who aren't really fans of the games.
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>>183603546
>Generations is often listed as the fan-favorite Sonic game now, over the classics.

fun fact, generations is 90% classics rehash
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>>183615751
He isn't. He's a robot made to resemble an echidna. He isn't actually an echidna. Is Tails Doll a fox?
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>>183610027
>>183610093
How arrogant,only Ken fucking Penders could steal from something as controversial as the fucking holocaust and claim he's the victim.
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>>18361636
Actually, it's 30% classics rehash
30% dreamcast rehash
30% modern rehash
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>>183616623
Yes. He's a plush fox.
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>>183616698
And also the one to have committed a genocide himself.
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>>183610952
South Island canonically moves across the ocean freely. It can be anywhere it wants. WITHIN THE SAME WORLD AS CENTRAL CITY.

TAKE

THAT

I I Z U K A
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>>183603349
i like blazehedgehog a lot
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New thread where?
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>>183616838
Bonus maps aren't canon.
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>>183616838
>South Island canonically moves across the ocean freely.

Ironically this sounds like something Iizuka would make up
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>>183577317
That's not a bad headcanon.

>>183596006
I think he wants them posted to /trash/ so he can see them because they've been deleted but for some reason aren't showing up on fireden.
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>>183616745
He's a doll that resembles a fox. Are stuffed animals actually their respective animal or are they just plushies?
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>>183616987
Working on it.
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>>183617341
They're plushie animals.
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>>183615592
Hell no.
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>>183601823
The shadows aren't even consistent.
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>>183610485
>Why does every thread become the Ken Penders general?
because no matter how many time it is explained to them, people just cant comprehend the massive amount of absurd and nonsene that name implies
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>>183612741
>i don't think it's possible at this point

wait until the next thread ! you are awarded one free chance to do so with every new one and it is valid until the end of each thread or until someone claims it first ! also you have to post a pic of her when you claim
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>>183613465

i dont see why not
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>>183614963
Damn, I drew better than this when I was a teenager.
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