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Welcome to the Sonic The Hedgehog General. Here we talk about Sonic's stuff! Share art and music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more.

/sthg/ #834 - ∞ Infinite Fun ∞ Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>Sonic News<
IDW and SEGA Enter Publishing Deal; Will Be Speaking to Fan-Favorite and New Creators
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/888538195045998592 (embed)
https://twitter.com/IDWPublishing/status/888536084472352770 (embed)

Sonic Forces "Enter Infinite" Trailer & Theme of Infinite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6uqp_mr98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4

Archie Sonic Officially Cancelled; Not the End of Sonic in Comics
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/887809496898088960

Several Sonic Events Happening at San Diego Comic-Con 2017
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/sounds-of-sonic-music-event-set-for-san-diego-comic-con/
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/sonic-mania-behind-the-scenes-panel-at-comic-con/
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/sonic-augmented-reality-experience-coming-to-sdcc/

>General Interest Links<
/sthg/ Level Development Kit 3.0:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpXy1vZHpRcjJtekU/view?usp=sharing

/sthg/ Drawfag Booru
http://theride.booru.org/

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom
https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom-Season-2

Previous thread: >>183505640
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Is Infinite a boy or a girl?
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Sonic is slow!
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>>183541727
yes
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THIS IS WHAT IT TAKES TO BE INFINITE
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>>183541603
I tried to make an Infinite version of this but got too lazy. Here's what I have anyway in case someone is willing and able to finish it.
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Infinite is Blaze being possessed by Iblis, who has traveled to the dimension Forces is in because reasons.
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Look at all of those /sthg/'s shitposters!
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>>183541727
There's not going to be any stupid switcheroo, it's exactly what it looks like: a weird, edgy guy.
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>>183541727
Infinite is Infinite
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>>183541727
A DANGEROUS WEAPON
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>>183541727
Everything
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>>183542072
>Fat Amy
Gross.
More.
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>>183542268
Why post this, anon? Why post this?
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>>183542268
Enjoy your break.
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>>183542135
You know SEGA has made gender nonconforming characters before, right?
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>>183542268
ABT has a NSFW tumblr?
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So what do you think IDWverse Sonic is gonna be like?
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>>183541727
that voice is pretty clear, idk, sounds rathe rmale
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Infinite's weakness is getting fucked in the butthole.
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>>183542268
MODS
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>>183541835
SO LOOK AROUND YOU AND TELL ME WHAT YOU REALLY SEE
I NEVER END
AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND ME
CAUSE WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP
AND EVERYTHING IS FALLING DOWN
IT'S ONLY ME AND YOU
WHO'S GONNA SAVE YOU NOW
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>>183542268
So ABT is a furry trash smut peddler too. Wonderful.
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>>183542393
Regardless of whether they hire Ian, something similar to the reboot Archieverse, being a combination of elements from various parts of the franchise with predominately game elements.
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>>183541603
Infinite huh? More like Infinitely stupid!
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>>183542268
It's not like he's oversexualizing the characters in the comic like they did before a long time ago.
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>>183542268
honestly why even post this

if we wanted to see taht shit we'd just go there
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>>183542334
Unless Infinite is a dream denizen, that shit don't apply. It's a man, baby.
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>>183542393
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>>183542393
Like the games.
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>>183542589
Oh Sonic
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>>183542268
I'm pretty sure abt is just doing commissions.
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>>183542452
Buddy: SONIC!! Put down that chili dog and look up in the skyyyyyy!
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>>183542634
Is this gonna be an ongoing meme here now.
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>>183542562
Furrys seem to have a lot of disposable income. Gotta make ends meet somehow.
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>>183542562
I think this is new. I reeeaallyy thought someone asked him if he was a furry here a few months back and he was pretty clear that he didn't care about anthro shit beyond his job
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>>183542682
I can kick your butt an infinite amount of ways!
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>>183542268
>Go to fireden to see what it was.
>It's not even a Sonic character.
Gtfo anon.
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>>183542452
Implying it's not getting fistbumped.
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>>183542268
don't care what he draws. the man draws sonic like a boss and has the makings of a great comic artist. I admire him and envy his skills and the fact that he's drawn for my favorite franchise
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>>183542472
Fun is Infinite's balls
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>>183542634
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>>183542072
belly rubs
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>>183542820
>fistbumped
in the butthole
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>>183542604
>it's not like he's over-sexualizing the characters

excuse me, who are we talking about here? ABT has draw plenty of sexualized Sonic characters. He clearly enjoys it too, unless they were all commissions.
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How can close can we get to making Bump in Forces?
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>>183542896
>ABT has draw plenty of sexualized Sonic characters
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>>183542703
that sketch was not an ABT commission, there's no way.
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>>183542896
>in the comic

He's referencing artists like Butler who basically drew pin-up art females with Sonic character heads.
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>>183542190
>INFINITY
>FINAL JUSTICE!!
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>>183542981
There's no deer option, so you can't.
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All artists are perverts. All of them.
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>>183542393
God I hope that was real.
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>>183542579
So pretty much what they did with their TMNT and Ghostbusters run
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Whatever pays the bills.
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>>183542562
>he says in a sonic the hedgehog thread
lucky for us, right?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjNHkUJNriU
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>>183542268
what's the problem with the artist liking furries

if he at least knows how to draw them half decently idk what the problem is
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>>183542589
Great, now Infinite is crying.
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>>183543097
Reported for advertising.
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>>183542268
The hell was posted?
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Remember team chaotix?
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>>183542875
I meant to say fistbumped.
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>>183542896
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>>183542996
.... have you ever been to the booru?

>>183543010
Ah, I understand.
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>>183542981
There won't be any deer option. Nor will there likely be any hair options either.
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>>183543075
Not all Sonic fans get off to cartoon animal porn.
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>>183543145
Call the police.
I don't give a fuck.
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>>183543195
Okay why the fuck did the spoiler tag not work?
Is this some new thing Hiroshimoot fucked up?
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>>183543162
I remember 3 of the members. Who's the other guy?
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>>183543162
Nope
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Speaking of ABT.
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>>183542372
>>183543159
I also request a link. For um... research... Yeah let's go with that.
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Guess the threads are going back to being real bad again.
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>>183543162
This COULD'VE been a gem like CD. What went wrong?
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>>183543162
Is that Shadow on the right?
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>not wanting ABT just because he draws porn you don't like
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>>183543162
I recognise Vector, Knuckles, Espio, Mighty, Charmy and Tails but who is the other one?
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>>183543162
Why are there 3 Sonics?
And why are 2 of them red?
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>>183543417
They never stopped being bad.
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>>183543425
CD was shit too.
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>>183543395
Fuck that. I emailed them immediately and said I would not buy their comic unless ABT, Flynn, Hesse, and Yardley were on staff.
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I'M THE TALLEST OF MOUNTAINS
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>>183543416
>>reddit
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>>183543038
While this is true, only some of them draw penises and vaginas.
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>>183543395
Why is he the only one playing like he knows something?
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>>183543416
https://vaporbats.tumblr.com/
Not much there. Nothing much Sonic related, but still looks good.
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>>183543395
k-knowing smile?
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>>183543472
dude thats just like ur opinion man bro
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>>183542896
>unless they were all commissions
They most likely were

>>183542893
>>183542072
Why is workout Amy so good?

>>183543417
Nothing has been bad about this thread yet, calm down
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>>183543395
>waiting
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>>183543118
It only hurts if you let it.
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>>183543162
Yeah I do. Vector, Espio and Charmy.
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>>183543565
because he's the newbie on the block and doesn't know how to speak about the property coyly without being transparent
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>>183543441
That's Sonic the hedgehog
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>>183543781
who?
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>>183543572
>Toriel
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>>183543565
Because the others are better at keeping secrets, I guess. Evan said on her tumblr that she knew the comic was cancelled in January but she kept quiet until now even with people asking her on her social media. Of course Ian is already known for his knowing smile, so he isn't going to say anything direct, especially after being at the center of the Pendering and knowing how quickly rumors get out of control.
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>>183543572
>toriel porn
>poppy opossum

no thanks
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>>183542334
Who?
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>>183543535
I AM THE ROUGHEST OF WAVES
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>>183543781
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>>183543558
Only some of them reveal the porn that draw.
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>>183543907
Do you think Sonic will call him edgy at some point in the game?
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>>183543395
>this post
>Ian's (knowing intensifies) tweet last month
>Evan knowing about the cancellation in January
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>>183543565
He's really bad at hiding secrets and only recently learned how to not be a huge blabbermouth. He brought up the general pretty fast when I talked to him at a con.

It's likely that a lot of them have already been contacted while the company irons out their gameplan.
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>>183544060
ABT is a crazy guy but I love him all the same
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>>183543990
>Evan will never share her Titan Tails x Monster Tails Doll porn
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>>183543862
Everyone knew the comic wasnt going to be produced but even Ian didn't know they were cancelled until the announcement. Aleah had a half-breakdown from the news, you'd think they'd all have been prepared if they knew for sure since January.
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>>183543990
Some of them just don't draw genitals, anon.
Believe me, I'm one of them. It's hard to draw well and ungratifying. Softcore is infinitely better.
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I think of any of the creative team, Hesse is most likely to come back considering he's been working with SEGA directly. Rafa Knight probably too, even though her work is more limited in scope.
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>>183544230
I know she has porn of these characters somewhere. Why else would she draw them like this?
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>>183544060
>brought up the general really fast

huh? he actually talked about the general IRL? what convention?
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>>183544060
>He brought up the general pretty fast when I talked to him at a con.

>tfw some shitty sonic general on an Indonesian knitting board is known and talked about by people who actually work on the franchise
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I hope knuckles is in sonic force
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>>183544334
It's entirely likely that Archie communicated on a need-to-know basis and told artists they had previously lined up for future issues to not even bother finishing their current work while just keeping writers "on hold."

Hopefully Leah's feeling better knowing that she has a shot to still submit work to the comic.
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>>183544471
this is just an abt thing... he's kind of a neet i think
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>>183544471
>your stupid comments are actually read by people that works on the franchise
I-- I didn't mean any of them
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>>183544471
m8, this is nothing new. Ian comes here once in a while, abt comes here, Evan used to come here, I think even Aaron namedropped 4chan in a stream once.
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Sonic games are for cutting edge chads like me only
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>>183544573
The general has been mentioned on those social media streams before.
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>>183544535
he is
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>>183542268
>Back to photoshop for now. Here’s that nsfw this account was for…
>Pretty sure this is the first pornographic image I’ve drawn to any sort of completion. Let’s see where we go from here.
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>>183544757
Yeah. So it's likely Aaron, Mike & who knows who else looks at this general.
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>>183544579
I'm sure they also post here anonymously so don't feel too bad.
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>>183544770
yay
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Does werster browse /sthg/?
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>>183544996
no I don't
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>>183543162
I only recognize Mighty
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Has ABT continued his Sonic Beat Em Up?
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>>183544445
I don't wanna say. I deflected when he asked if I heard about him through here because I was really sick and nervous because I had been working on a porfolio to show him but didn't have it ready in time for the con. It still isn't done because of several irl problems and I feel awful about it.
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>>183540764
Damn I was about to reply "she's dead" but this is a lot more potent. Made me feel things.
It's too bad this kind of grief isn't really shown in the sonic series. It really makes me hate the consistently bad writing much more.
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>>183544060
His inexperience at keeping secrets is evidenced also by the fact that he trips as abt instead of something with deniability like Senpai. abt's a cool guy, but he might want to consider being more careful.
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>>183545149
>It's too bad this kind of grief isn't really shown in the sonic series. It really makes me hate the consistently bad writing much more.
anon it's a childrens series about cartoon animals going fast
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>>183544918
>tfw Aaron's shitposter-kun
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>>183545149
Sonic Team is probably afraid of showing any emotional and vulnerable side of Shadow because they think it would make him less badass.
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>>183544554
My guess is that Sega made the deal with IDW without saying anything to Archie or the creative team to avoid anything leaking.
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>>183545260
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>>183545114
>I deflected when he asked if I heard about him through here
You should have sperged out and started shouting memes at him.
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>>183545260
He's the one person with hope for the games in this general?
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>>183545262
So I would like to see Shadow shed a tear because it would look cool done at the right moment.
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>>183545382
yes
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YOUGOTDISSANIC
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>>183545393
Like in SA2?
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>>183545332
He asked if I heard about him through here.
I didn't, so I explained how I heard about him and left it at that.

Nice guy. Seems to be perpetually tired.
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>>183545393
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>>183545232
This argument has always been retarded. The setting being unorthodox doesn't mean that engaging stories cannot be told.
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>>183545521
yes >>183545541
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>>183545548
No, but it isn't just unorthodox, it's literally for children.
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>>183545548
Anon, don't fall for it. Just ignore that post & move on.
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>>183545704
I'm not baiting, I love sonic but the idea of a serious genuine and dramatic story being told throw silly cartoon animals is just laughable to me.
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>>183545812
Doesn't help that every attempt to do that in Sonic has been pretty bad, with Forces only looking to reinforce that
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>>183545812
*threw
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>>183545812
*thru
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>>183545812
If Sonic Team could actually do it right it would be great fun.
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>>183543440
It's the peak of childishness.
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>>183545260
God, Eddie looked so PISSED.
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>>183545678
"It's for kids" isn't really a valid excuse either. Not saying I'm pushing for deep and groundbreaking storytelling in Sonic games, but just because it's for kids doesn't mean the story has to be crap either.
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>>183545812
I wanna beat pieces of shits like you senseless. I bet you're a old fat out of touch faggot. Kys nigger
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>>183545812
Yes yes yes, you're not baiting for real guys. Doesn't matter either way, because this argument about whether or not Sonic should have decent stories is fucking tiresome.
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>>183544230
>Evan will never reveal her stash of Nicole and Silver lewd
ftfy
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>>183546035
It doesn't have to be crap, no, but imo children's stories can only be decent to adults when they remain light hearted and silly.
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legal anon or any anon willing to help; I want to use drum samples from older games (genesis and snes) and use them for my game. not sfx, not voice files, or instruments. just drum samples. How likely am I to get sued? If I use samples from only one game, would that be better or worse?
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>>183546068
T. Manchild
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>>183545114
S&SFJ
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>>183546118
See >>183546174

It's not about being shit or not, it's about being serious and dramatic or not.
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>>183545812
>It's okay when Disney does it.
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>>183546174
Lion King?
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>>183545164
I have often wondered why he continued to trip here after beginning work on the comics. It just makes me think he's a bigger sonic fan than he lets on. It kind of humanizes him but it also kind of cheapens him, like he's just another loser anon who happens to spend all his time drawing
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>>183544230
>implying I haven't shared it already

lol
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>>183546174
I disagree, but your opinion is common.
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>>183546281
Nope. I don't even know what con that is...unless that's supposed to be a person, in which case I'm not that either.
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>>183544439
I began having similar suspicions when I notice she consistently draws Nicole with big tits.

>>183545534
>Seems to be perpetually tired.
From conversations on his streams, the dude used to work from sunup to late into the night, and THEN he would doodle awesome shit for us. The guy's got incredible drive.
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>>183546325
>>183546390
Kek. Is this like when people talk about baldness looking bad, and all the hairlets immediately jump to Jason Statham?
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>>183544334
>Aleah had a half-breakdown from the news
She did?

>>183545298
I wonder what the process was and why did it take so many months.
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>>183546465
Nice argument.
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>>183546435
Unless it was DragonCon....
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>>183544579
Didn't TC get us a shoutout on a donation stream last year?
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>>183546292
No one's asking for Shadow or 06 edge to return. Having a story with a balance of light-hearted & some moments of seriousness is fine & has been done with children's media for about as long as children's media has existed, animal characters or not. That's why this argument is stupid, outside of the obvious fact that it always ends with people going in circles. Tone has never mattered when it comes to kids stories, it's always mattered how you execute it.
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>>183546440
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>>183546569
Yessir. I made a webm with sound of that and posted it on /fast/. It's a shame Gene wasn't there, man that would have been interesting.
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>>183546435
I think it's Sonic and Sega Fan Jam?
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>>183546564
It was last year, very late in the year, at an obscure ass little con.
Please don't post it here, you can figure it out from that, but I don't want it posted in the thread.
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>not listening to future bass to celebrate the anniversary of the Mania reveal
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>>183546714
Too late fucker, tell us all about your con experience.
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>>183546479
>Some old writer is trying to sue Archie AGAIN?
>Nope. That's it. We're done. We're moving this shit to a new publisher right now.
>Hello? Archie? Yes. Cancel all your Sonic books immediately. Just do it.
Something like that, I'm sure.
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>>183542589
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>>183546790
In the same month the Mania trailer and Snail's House got me deep into future bass
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>Ian posts here as much as ABT

While I want to believe this, I have not seen any proof or hint of this in all the threads I've been in.
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>>183546702
>Adam Bryce James
>James

u wot mate
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>>183546992
Infinite my unit enragement edge
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>>183547138
>ian is an anti-ian shitposter
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Imagine how cool it would have been if Shadow actually stayed dead at the end of SA2 like he was supposed to, at least for like 5 years or so, obviously there's no possible reality where they never bring him back.
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PREDICTION TIME MOTHERFUCKERS
WHAT WILL BE REVEALED ABOUT MANIA TODAY?
IF ANYTHING IS REVEALED AT ALL, WHAT SPECIFICALLY WILL IT BE?
NO SAFE BETS. YOLO ONLY.
please please please tidal tempest.
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>>183546874
I had a bad headcold, sniffled all over ABT and Chad Thomas, and ended up staying for only one hour on the second day before heading home and puking.

It was okay.
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>>183546992
>Are you infinitely mad at me?
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>>183547138
He definitely doesn't post as much as ABT. He has shown up on occasion though.
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>>183547229
Theyre gonna spoil another throwback stage or element and the entire animated intro and I'm gonna be pissed about it even though I willingly watched it just like last time
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I will defend Sonic Heroes from haters and infidels until the end of time
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Which is better, american sthg or euro sthg?
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Nobody officially working on Sonic stuff actually cares much about this general. Fact.
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>>183547229
All the levels. All of them. From 1, 2, 3&K, some from CD. Every single one.
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>>183547217
they already had the perfect solution of making him a robot clone of the original with heroes, though. it gave people who liked shadow shadow again without shitting on the previous game's events, despite initially coming across as the opposite.

the fuckup happened in ShTH when they couldn't resist fucking up everything about Shadow they possibly could.

>>183504485
>>183505754
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>>183547346
American. Sonic The Comic was trash.
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>>183547346
I've only ever been here for American /sthg/, but it's always horrific so I imagine Europe wins by default.
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>>183547229
>We lied about the release date. It's actually out today!
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>>183546409
Evan don't do this to us
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>>183547229
Ice Cap. They showed a teaser in one of the panels then didn't talk about it again and it's like everyone forgot and it never happened.

Hey, by the way, that reminds me, did Aaron continue with the game of clues? I think I remember him saying he would, but I don't remember anything else about that.
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>>183547346
American /sthg/ is prime shitpost hours.
Euro is prime dead hours.
Pick your poison.
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>>183546210
T. Fat black balding subhuman worthless piece of shit
Fight me irl
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>>183547346
EU gets the most ass kissing from Sega (recent events aside)
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>>183541727
>>183542275
THE SHARPEST OF BLADES HE'LL CUT YOU DOWN IN A SECOND CUS HE WAS BORN IN THIS PAIN
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>>183547346
Can I vote for no /sthg/?
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>>183547346
US /sthg/ has the better soundtrack in CD, fite me
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>>183547231
Oh.
Bummer.
Better luck next time, anon.

>>183547229
>WHAT WILL BE REVEALED ABOUT MANIA TODAY?
Another delay
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>>183547587
That's too easy anon.
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>>183547229
A FULL SONIC MANIA OVA/ANIME SERIES
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>>183546409
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>>183547497
This one?
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>>183547598
who legit thinks this?
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>>183547671
Not me, JP soundtrack all the way
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>>183547671
People of taste and culture.
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You're working at SEGA and they ask you for one simple task: find a name for Infinite's theme song.
What do you choose?
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>>183547809
Infinite's Theme Song
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>>183547809
Live and Die
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>>183547809
absolute shit
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>>183547809
//xxThexEndxx\\
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>>183547804
bet you like sonic rush's dogshit ost too
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>Penders and friends sue archie again
>SoA pulls license

RIP Freedom Fighters, last remains of early 90's American Sonic because of fatass who makes DA-tier OCs and recolors nowadays.
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>>183547973
Retcon'd
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>>183547878
he isnt?
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>>183547948
My only experience with rush's soundtrack is back2back from 3ds generations, which I liked a lot. Is it really bad? I prefer JP cd soundtrack.
>>183547973
Becomes Buddy's fuckbuddy.
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>>183547973
The custom character rapes him in the ass.
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>>183547973
Sonic's canon love interest.
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>>183547973
Infinitely bullied for the rest of his life
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>>183547948
You should be put to death for having such shit taste.
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>>183547948
>sonic rush's dogshit ost too
please kill yourself at your earliest convenience

>>183547973
He becomes the new main character of the franchise
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I heard Infinite was actually designed by Ken.
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>>183547973
Friends with everyone!
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>>183547809
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>>183548040
>>183548084
>>183548103
How many people in this general want to fuck Infinite. jfc
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>>183547973
New MC
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>>183547973
He dies and comes back like jesus
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I will literally kill all of you for not having the exact same taste as me in sonic games.
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>>183547973
"Lol, sacrafice myself to fix the world and save people, goodbye forever to another monster of the week villain."
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>>183547973
The hottest Sonic character in disguise
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>>183548228
Me too
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>tfw 3 days to birthday
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>>183547973
Permanent member of the cast from here out complete with his own spin off series. This results in Eggman being retired as a character.
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>>183548237
Sounds right.
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>>183547973
He can't die. He's Infinite. So he gets stuck in some sort of time loop for Infinity.
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>>183548237
Yeah that seems likely
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>>183547948
This is both a shit opinion and inconsistent considering Rush's soundtrack is more similar to JP CD than US CD.
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>>183548237
This is really going to happen isn't it
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>>183548237
Yeah, I can see that.
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>>183548237
You win
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>>183548254
Artist for that here. 5 days until mine.

Still need to finish that dumb comic at some point. Or not I dunno.
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>>183548425
Your birthday is 2 days after /sthg/'s?
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>>183547973
He truly becomes the Sonic Forces.
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>>183548228
Yep, that's how I think desu, You're all faggots and I WILL alienate you for having such god awful tastes.
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>>183547809
Infinite... Theme of Infinite
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>>183548257
Fuck you
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>>183548654
>>183548228
>>183548250
Your taste in Sonic sucks, tbqhfamalam
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>>183548574
27th of July?

I guess.
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>>183548654
I'm shitting in your chimney
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I just want to visit the comfy city behind Spring Yard or Starlight Zone.
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>>183548326
yeah it's pretty weird but i can't stand rush's soundtrack but adore jp cd. it's not like i grew up with it either.
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>>183548810
Go to Denver.
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>>183548778
Your life sucks, tbqhfampai

>>183548787
I'm shitting down your throat and making you lick my asshole sparkling clean
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>>183548937
It's an honor to speak to you Mr. President
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How do we stop them, /egg/?
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>>183549005
Soda sucks and is terribad for you but I'd get this
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Evening, folks. We're ready to disclose our plan to you all for the /sthg/ fangame project. We will first create a small test environment in order to get our team dynamic flowing. This small test environment may lead to something larger as we proceed to the main project, or we may simply take what we have learned and start again.

As such, we would like you, the general, to also participate in the initial proceedings to determine the "theme" of this trial project. It will be a small hub-world area that contains no set objective but should ideally contain multiple places where portals to levels could go. What we would like from you is a description of what you think would be a fun area to run around in as Sonic.

Any and all ideas are welcome. Your ideas can be as detailed, or as vague as you like, but please do try to think about it before you post. Let's get crackin'.

As a side-note, since the Mania panel is quickly approaching, level design discussion will most assuredly be buried, so expect follow-up posts in the future. Cool? Cool.
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>>183549105
I happen to know for a fact that neither one of them can swim.
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Final Rush is _________.
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don't look now but I literally just killed your mother for all that shit talking you did of my favorite sonic track
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>>183547809
Internal Server Error
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>>183549127
>Sonic Mania panel is in five minutes
Should probably save this for tomorrow.
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>>183549127
A theme for a hub world, huh? I loved the idea mentioned in the last thread about a museum themes hub.
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>still no fan stream
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>>183548810
What if Star Light Zone is the comfy city behind Spring Yard?
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>>183549247
it isn't my fault you're a subhuman piece of trash that can't appreciate good music. You couldn't know what IS good music even if repeatedly bashed you in the face LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO kys
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>>183549127
Have you decided if there's gonna be a story yet?
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>>183549323
If they wanted to stream something they should do something less cancerous, like fan reaction videos or something.
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>>183549247
I will summon the fucking apocalypse if you say you like the wrong Sonic game one more time.

I will burn in hell for all eternity as long as you suffer too.
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>>183548036

that was my response lol

I love this general
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>>183549417
Not yet. Right now it's all about making sure we can get together and actually make something. Then we'll talk about stories and larger worlds. Baby-steps.
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>>183549472
The Sonic game you like sucks
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>>183549127
green hill zone
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>>183549127
Seconding >>183549312, I made way too much stuff for the museum project for it to be trashed all of the sudden. At least with that as a basis we won't have to do as much work.
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>>183547347
They're probably more active in /co/ than here.
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>>183549127
Do you have any news about rail grinding?
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>>183549127
Your game is going to be trash :^)
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>>183549127
>hub world
>multiple places where portals to levels could go
No way this can be anything but a museum or art gallery.
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>>183549127
Well, I for one would like to see a snowy area. This would be a fantastic display of the kinds of environments the team can create as parts of the hub, while at the same time it's something we haven't seen before. It also would give an excellent chance to show off weather and particle effects on the snow.

The upper area can be like Holoska, with plenty of North Pole-esque areas and a section that would lead into Cool Edge. There could be an underground area full of icicles and crystals not unlike the underground portions of Ice Cap which could lead to a level of its own, and finally an ominous, slightly more industrial section that would lead to Eggman's secret snow base in the distance, like White Acropolis.
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>>183548425
Please do
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>>183549764
It's our game, thank you. The /sthg/ community is coming together for this. Some of us, at least.
>>
It's time
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>>183549770

I second the museum idea. Big and open, art pieces from the general, statues, etc

Maybe mix and match various styles, Louve, Smithsonian, Met, etc
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>>183549863
For bed.
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>Talking about things "that are not public knowledge today"
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>>183546992
That was bugging me way more than it probably should.
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Needs more Omega.
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>>183549838
It's going to be trash. Absolutely none of you have decent tastes or know what a good Sonic game is, so why bother?
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>>183549127
>We're ready to disclose our plan to you all for the /sthg/ fangame project
Who's we?
>>
Are Falk or Funk Fiction or any of the Before/After The Sequel team working on Mania?
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>>183550065
>a infinite
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>>183550085

The Illuminati, anon.

Don't tell Alex
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I hate when he doesn't listen...
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>>183550065
>bugging you more than it should
>made it even worse
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A good sonic game is one that I have fun playing
fuck all of you
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>>183550065
you forgot the n there, anon
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>>183550069
Because making shit is fun?
>>183550085
We being the people currently in the Discord who have been discussing how to move forward. If you would like to contribute to the effort, you are more than welcome to become part of that "we."
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>>183550230
Fun is just a buzzword that people use when they can't find any real reasons to describe why a game is good.
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>>183550230
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>>183550298
What does "good game" mean, papa?
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>Talking about reveals
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OFFICIAL LIST OF SONIC GAMES YOU SHOULD PLAY
IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED AND COMPLETED ALL OF THESE GAMES, YOU'RE NOT A TRUE SONIC FAN AND SHOULD GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS GENERAL
Sonic the Hedgehog genesis and master system
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 genesis and master system
SegaSonic the Hedgehog arcade
Sonic CD sega cd
Sonic Chaos master system
Sonic Spinball genesis
Sonic 3 and Knuckles genesis
Sonic Triple Trouble game gear
Knuckles Chaotix 32x
Tails Skypatrol game gear
Tails Adventure game gear
Sonic Labyrinth game gear
Sonic the Fighters arcade
Sonic 3D Blast genesis and saturn
Sonic Blast game gear
Sonic R saturn
Sonic Adventure dreamcast/gamecube/pc (your choice)
Sonic Shuffle dreamcast
Sonic Adventure 2 dreamcast/gamecube/pc (your choice)
Sonic Advance game boy advance
Sonic Advance 2 game boy advance
Sonic Pinball Party game boy advance
Sonic Battle game boy advance
Sonic Heroes gamecube/xbox/pc (your choice)
Sonic Advance 3 game boy advance
Shadow the Hedgehog gamecube/xbox (your choice)
Sonic Rush nintendo ds
Sonic Riders gamecube/xbox (your choice)
Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 xbox 360/playstation 3 (your choice)
Sonic Rivals playstation portable
Sonic and the Secret Rings wii
Sonic Rush Adventure nintendo ds
Sonic Rivals 2 playstation portable
Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity wii
Sonic Chronicles: the Dark Brotherhood nintendo ds
Sonic Unleashed wii and xbox 360/playstation 3 (your choice)
Sonic and the Black Knight wii
Sonic Colors nintendo ds and wii
Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 wii/xbox 360/playstation 3/pc (your choice)
Sonic Generations 3ds and xbox 360/playstation 3/pc (your choice)
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 2 xbox 360/playstation 3/pc (your choice)
Sonic Lost World 3ds and wii u

and denotes you play both version
IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED ALL OF THESE GAMES YOU ARE NOT A TRUE SONIC FAN AND SHOULD GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS GENERAL
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>>183550489
>*OFFICIAL LIST OF SONIC GAMES YOU SHOULD AVOID

Fixed.
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>Fun fact: #SonicMania was once known as “Sonic Discovery” early in development! #SDCC17
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>>183550463
Something is guaranteed to be revealed at the end.
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>>183550160
"Infinite-ly pain in my ass" doesn't make any grammatical sense. Originally it was "Infinite-ly a pain in my ass" but what's there now flows better.

>>183550258
Fair point on the original not knowing how to spell, fixed now.
>>
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5uim0u

It's up
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>>183550489
>your choice

no anon, you have to play each version individually.

I'm hereby revoking your "tru sonic fan" license.
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>>183550453
One that is objectively high quality.
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>>183550671
is there a list of all other episodes of that season?
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>>183550489
Lost World is on PC since most people don't have a pii u.
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>>183550772
totally spaced that
(this is a meme list)
>>
>Izuka saw a demo and took a white board and wrote Sonic 123 and cd and said "Sonic Mania" " first moment of what would become mania"
>>
Did Hesse draw the scribbles on the power point?
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>>183550860
Most likely.
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>>183549783
I love this idea, but I wonder whether or not snow particles work in what is gonna be used for the thing.

>>183550085
A group of our anons here are coming together to make an /sthg/-made fangame.
>>
>Eggman is heavily depressed after Sonic 3
>What happened to all the left over robots after Sonic 3
>Eggman minions going rogue
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>>183550840
>>Izuka saw a demo and took a white board and wrote Sonic 123 and cd and said "Sonic Mania"
i want to fucking die now
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>>183551050
So Sonic and co. vs Eggman vs Badniks?
>>
>Comparing Mania to the classics it's length is comparable to s3k
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>>183550840
>Even Izuka doesn't acknowledge Sonic 4
Kek.
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>>183551050
>Sonic Mania is a legit sequel to S3&K
Fuck yes
>>
>>183551050
Sad Egg is bad Egg
>>
>>183550840
>Sonic 123
Woah slow down there Iizuka
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>>183550489
Why can't I play the PS2 version of Unleashed?
>>
>>>/wsg/1793587
I found a song in You're Under Arrest that totally sounds like Sonic CD music.
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>Meet your new Sonic the Hedgehog comic book editor @JoeHughes28!
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>>183550840
>bazooka sincerely believes he's a fucking genius for writing "sonic 123" on a whiteboard and then blurting out "sonic mania" like a fucking autist

How does this make you feel?
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>>183551212
We already have Adventure.
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https://twitter.com/StevenThePage/status/888955407925772288
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>>183551417
"Euugh euugghh..S-sonic...M-MANIA! M-m-m-Mania!"
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>>183551329
Which one is that?
The Sonic or the black Wily?
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>>183551329
>check his twitter
Oh fuck.
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what are you guys whatching and where can i join
>>
>>183551537
>y-yes Iizuka, Sonic Mania...
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>>183551329
Neat, I guess. Don't know how his editing will be.
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Mania as long as S3&K apparently. That's fucking neat.
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>>183551329
That little kid fuckin' nailed the sonic pose.
I love seeing Sonic fans that are actual children.
>>
>>183551550

I have absolutely no problem with his twitter activity, and think this is a fantastic announcement so quickly after the pub switch.
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>>183551329
He sounds woke as fuck. Hopefully we get more "You will respect your betters, Anarchist" out of the book.

Before you all freak out, the editor can't decide what to add to the book, only what to take out. The writers are going to be the ones who decide that first bit.
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>>183551543
black Wily
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>>183551417
I like to think Iizuka communicates via whiteboard and blurting out random combinations of words.

It would make the designs of recent Sonic games make sense.
>>
>>183551550
What did you see?
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>>183551314
I assumed the PS2 version is considered worse than the wii version, but honestly not sure.
Also I forgot Pocket Adventure for the neo geo pocket because it's under rereleases on the wiki and not the main series even though it's not even fucking close to a rerelease.
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>>183551618
I mean.. if it works I don't see the problem.
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>>183551719
>Before you all freak out
That's my secret anon, I'm always freaked out.
>>
>>183551752
Wikipedia:
>Game Journalist from Wired described Takashi Iizuka as a difficult man to read, as he tends to slip into corporate speak especially when discussing mixed reception of Sonic games.

>His long time colleague and composer, Tomoko Sasaki, however described him as someone who "offered a different and fresh, almost unpredictable, way of thinking" and got along well with him from the very start.
>>
>>183551805
Nothing but race politics drivel.
>>
>>183550671
>they actually made a PINGAS reference

the madman
>>
>>183551958
>white man complains when black men talk about black things
Nobody cares about your whining. This has nothing to do with the comics.
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>First song made was studiopolis. Says it was the easiest song to make. Sonic CD influence.
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>>183548163
That's the power of Liam O'Brien.
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>Going to show off a new song & stage
>special stage
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>>183552313
Sand Coffin!
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>>183552153
Where are you guys watching this?
>>
You guys do realize people in the comics industry are still people with opinions and political beliefs outside of their jobs, like everyone else, correct?
>>
>>183552405
It's on twitter
https://twitter.com/StevenThePage
>>
>>183552329
>>183552402
>Based on Saturn and CD
>Only one UFO, has chaos emerald, Sonic needs to catch him, Sonic collects blue spheres to run faster
>Collect rings to increase time
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>>183552329
>>183552402
Hell yes!
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>>183552329
>>183552402
Wait... is this, Sonic CD + Sonic 3 + Sonic Rush?
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How much does it devalue a used game when it doesn't feature the cover? How much should I pay for ShTH gamecube version?
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>>183552402
>>183552329
That's the Sonic Mania Special Stage!?
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>>183552329
>>183552402
>Low poly Sonic
YYYYYYYYYYEEEESSSSSS
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>>183552329
>>183552402
SONIC MANIA IS MEGAMIX CONFIRMED
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>New Song is called dimension hiest
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>>183552402
hey that looks cool
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>>183550489
>IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED AND COMPLETED ALL OF THESE GAMES, YOU'RE NOT A TRUE SONIC FAN AND SHOULD GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS GENERAL
>SegaSonic the Hedgehog arcade
fuck u, how the fuck am i supposed to play that?
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NEW SONG
https://twitter.com/StevenThePage/status/888959945055420416
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>>183552402
>Fish from the background of Sonic 1 special stages
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>>183552135
Where the fuck does it say I'm white or a man? People that engage in that kind of behavior where they have an account somewhere full of political racial drivel exclusively have shown to be good for nothing and to actively fuck up everything they touch. And how does it have nothing to do with the comics when that person is the editor? It's almost as if you were an offended nigger that wanted to suppress this getting to be known.
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>>183551682
Didn't Iizuka say it was longer than any classic Sonic game? It's exactly the length of S3&K now?
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>>183552135

I was just about to say this, thanks anon.
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>>183552587
>Song will be up over the weekend on @sonic_hedgehog youtube
https://twitter.com/StevenThePage/status/888959945055420416
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>>183550489
>Sonic Pinball Party game boy advance
seriously?
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>>183552593
MAME is likely 20 years old, anon, which means it's probably older than you are. You can also use it to play the other Sonic arcade games.
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>Opening animation like Sonic CD confirm
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>Opening animation confirmed
https://twitter.com/StevenThePage/status/888960272274079750
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How would you react to Mania having Adventure-like low poly cutscenes?
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>>183552402
>Mach 3

nigga SPEED?
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>>183552329
>>183552402
Damn someone around here totally called this the other day.
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>>183552674
He specifically said it's length is comparable, that doesn't mean exactly as long.
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>>183550489
>IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED AND COMPLETED ALL OF THESE GAMES, YOU'RE NOT A TRUE SONIC FAN
>Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 xbox 360/playstation 3 (your choice)
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>Fan asking for super emeralds

IIZUKA MAD
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>>183552665
So basically you're offended because a guy is offended by genuinely offensive things on a barely active twitter account. What a waste of energy and emotion. Anti SJW really are the new SJW.
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>Fan asking for super emeralds
Doesn't he know Iizuka just loves to pretend they never existed?
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>>183552828

Either infinite monkeys on keyboards, or somebody *knows*
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>Fan asking for super emeralds
>"if we keep adding emeralds we keep needing to add new forms"
>"let's stop using super emeralds before it gets out of hand"
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>>183550489
>Sonic and the Secret Rings wii
?
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>>183552934
Pretend what never existed?
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>>183552972
Is he wrong?
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>>183550489
>Sonic Shuffle dreamcast
Fug you
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>>183552916
>"if we keep adding emeralds we keep needing to add new forms"
>"let's stop using super emeralds before it gets out of hand"

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIZUUUUUUKKKKAAAA
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TAILS DESERVES TO GO SUPER
and hyper forms are cool too I guess
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>>183552519
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>>183552972
And yet, they've actually made a lot of forms until the start of this decade. Adding new forms could still be avoided while keeping Hyper Sonic. It doesn't get out of hand if you don't allow it to, Super Emeralds or not.
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>Aaron says it's Dr ivo Robotnik but nickname eggman
>Will debug come back asked,
>Christian says play the game and find it
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>Will debug come back asked
>Christian says play the game and find it

ooooooooooooooooo
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>>183552726
>>183552730
Hesse animation confirmed?
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>>183553149
Yes
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>>183552972
>>183553050
He has a point. Super Emeralds and Hyper Sonic were cool, but I don't feel much need to have them in a new game. Adventure has enough information for me to headcanon their existence anyway.
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>>183553149
Reveal on August 14th apparently
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>>183550489

>Sonic Unleashed wii and xbox 360/playstation 3 (your choice)
>Sonic and the Secret Rings wii
>Sonic and the Black Knight wii

those are pretty much just spin-offs i woulndt consider them canon
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>>183552972
That would be a good reason... if they weren't something that already existed and they didn't add new forms regardless.
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>Sonic Mania booklet like a manual
>It's over!!
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>>183553149
yes, like CD
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>>183552739
I have always thought we missed out on a Saturn era Sonic game. But that's essentially what that special stage is. I'd much rater see Tyson's animation for the cutscenes.
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>>183553091
Like 10 bucks, 20 max I'd say.
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>>183552972
Well he's not wrong and story-wise we don't need anything that isn't Super Sonic or Spin-off-notSuper-Sonic to save the day.
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>>183553182
>headcanon
They existed in Sonic Adventure. They probably kind of forgot about them in Adventure 2. By the time Sonic Adventure DX came out, they started to retcon them out of existence.
Check the Perfect Chaos mural in Lost World. In the Dreamcast version there are 7 emeralds above and 7 emeralds below, in the newer versions there are only 7 emeralds below. They probably just hate them.
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https://twitter.com/moiseschiu/status/888960135426473986
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>>183553265
For the collectors edition, right? If so, I'm so glad I preordered.
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Please fucking Sega, pay Hesse money for more animations.
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>>183552828
me
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>>183552392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1HWQfQ8W7c
Blood! It's my blood!
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>>183553391
Only if you went to the panel :*^)
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>>183553182
Hyper Sonic is game breaking.
You can jump straight over the edges of levels.
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>Q: Is this a true return to form for Sonic.
>A: Have you played Generations?
>Q asker: No
>*Crowd boos*
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>>183553442
...
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>>183553415
I forgot how much I fucking loved Gaara as a preteen.
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>>183553487
THAT'S FUCKING RIGHT SHUN THE FAKE FAN. SHUNNN.
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>>183553312
I got a choice between 15 bucks with cover and one without where it says in the article that I and he must agree on a price (I'm not good at english). How do I go about this?
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>>183552919
Nigger, learn to read instead of coming up with shit no one said to compensate. I don't want people like him (and you) fucking up my favorite franchise like SJW have been shown to do every fucking time they touch something.
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>>183553487
Generations is shit.
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STORY
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>>183553487
SEIZE THE NONBELIEVER.
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>>183553487
how embarrassing
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>>183553415
Gaara was always a cool character.
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>>183547809
"Only You and Me"
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>>183553551
SOMEONE CALL THE WAAAAAAMBULANCE
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>>183553571
Gross, that's way too much for a sonic game.
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I understand not wanting Hyper Sonic to exist anymore, cool as he is, but why not give Tails and Knuckles super forms? If the game is only going to have Super Sonic then getting the Emeralds with Tails and Knuckles will just feel pointless.
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>>183553571
>IT'S SOMETHING MYSTERIOUS
"what is it"
>...
>SOMETHING MYSTERIOUS
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>>183552329
They just...combined all the special stages?
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>>183553571
inb4 they're wisps
I hope they are.
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>>183553538
15 bucks isn't bad, just go with that.
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>>183553551
>nigger
>sjw

>>>>>/pol/
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>>183553571
>it's a true Sonic 4 story

nice
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>>183552329
FINALLY! A SPECIAL STAGE THAT'S NOT A FUCKING HALF-PIPE
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>>183553707

I love everything about this

This is the Sonic 4 we deserved for so long
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>>183553707
New stage in the corner?
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>>183553707
>Cherry Blossom level
HOOOLLLYY SHIITTT
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>>183553643
I like this one.
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>>183553671
Hedgehogs = Saiyans
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>>183553667
It's not really all that much...
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>>183553571
So this is a midquel?They can pretty much make infinite midquels in this style can't they.
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>>183553707
>>183553794

Ninja stage with Ninja HBH confirmed.
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>>183553667
It's literally the exact same length and depth as Sonic 2's Japanese manual.
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>>183553671
They don't know how to make Sonic cool anymore, so they give everyone else as little focus as possible instead, so that Sonic looks cool in comparison.

>>183553754
Sonic Adventure had a true Sonic 4 story. It's a direct sequel and it has a natural progression from Sonic 3&K.
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>>183553883
Like I said, too much.
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Sally is superior to Knuckles. Better luck next time anon from last thread.
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>>183553698
Oh man, I can't imagine the reaction that would generate.
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>>183553707
The Sakura level catches my attention because it doesn't feel derivative of past stages as much. Thank god.
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>>183553854
what do them moon runes say
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>>183553867
Considering basically every Sonic game starts with "Sonic was chilling one day when he found out Eggman was up to some evil bullshit and decided to stop it," they can do this as long as they like. The only thing that really affects timeline placement is which characters you include.
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>>183553967
The only other Japanese themed stage to date is Aquarium Park I think.
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>>183553995
Sound effects essentially
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>no stage reveal
I'M FUCKING DYING TO PLAY THIS DAMN GAME
PUT ME IN A COMA UNTIL THE RELEASE DATE GODDAMN
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>>183553487
Hahaha, please someone tell me that's on tape. That's some sick burn.
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>>183553707
Japanese themed stage with Ninja Hardboiled Heavy confirmed.
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>>183553854
How did you take this picture?
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>>183553953
You're posting in a thread I made, so who really won?
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>>183554117
It just proves that if a game looks pretty and has good advertisement most people are easily tricked to think that it's good.
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>>183553374
>They existed in Sonic Adventure.
super emeralds? in sonic adventure1? what?
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>>183553967
i'm looking forward to this one the most too but for different reasons. I like the potential of a rustic stage without it just being a generic forest. Kind of like Windy Vally from Sonic Adventure and Sylvania Castle Zone from Sonic 4 Episode II
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>>183553374

>Perfect Chaos mural in Lost World

>In the Dreamcast version there are 7 emeralds above and 7 emeralds below

> in the newer versions there are only 7 emeralds below

pics ?
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>>183554202
They're never officially called as much, but in the flashback sequences of the emerald shrine the emeralds surrounding the ME are Super Emerald sized, which fits with how the Super Emeralds worked in S3&K. Didn't know about that change to the mural and whether it's legit.
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>>183554202
read the rest of the post
they weren't relevant, but they weren't trying to hide them either.
they also appeared in a trailer at some point as the actual emeralds and not illustrated on a mural, but that went unused
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>>183553487
BASED AARON
>>183554117
They officially recorded it, it'll be up tomorrow night C:
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>>183553707
That art is beautiful, specially the top left piece.

Bottom left totally references Ice Cap.
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>>183554175
This can't be happening. YOU CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!
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>>183554202
It's just some idiot's headcanon because of the shape and size of the emeralds in Adventure compared to how they looked in the 2D games.
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>>183553374
remember, super emeralds are just the regular emeralds after absorbing the master emerald's power as seen in sonic3&knuckles, therefore : 7 emeralds 1master emerald
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>>183553953
>tfw it took way too long, got distracted with the panel and other stuff and forgot.
Next time I guess.
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>>183553707
>>183554378
>it's Ice Cap after the ice melts
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To think the artist who drew this is making the opening sequence for an actual Sonic the Hedgehog game.
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Hyper Potions will probably do the intro music.
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>>183554483
How did Eggman trick Knuckles in Sonic 3&K?
>>
So a PS4 on Amazon goes for $265 new. Should I get it or should I find one in stores? I want to get both Sonic games on it.
>>
Here is a list of Joe Hughes' credits I was able to find, if anyone's interested. I've never read any of these comics before, but if anyone else has, are they any good?

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/joe-hughes/4040-61255/issues-cover/
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>>183554556
It might be Time Trials
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>>183554579
Knuckles has terrible social skills because of isolation. Legend on Angel Island about an evil dragon appearing one day. Death Egg crashes. Knux doesn't know Eggman is attached to it when he finds him. Eggman says the Death Egg is Sonic's fault. Knux attacks Sonic when he comes to the island.
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>>183552723
>sonic arcade
>MAME

>implying trackball controls translate well on emulators
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>>183554672
He also says Sonic is after the Chaos Emeralds to do bad things with them.
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>>183554658
I thought Dial H was good.
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>>183554343
I can't find better pics, but there you go

1/3
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>>183554707
Yes, that too. And this was before they actually narrowed the number of emeralds down, so Eggman specifically told Knuckles that Sonic was after his island's emeralds.
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>>183554672
to be fair it wouldn't be too out there to interpret the hidden palace murals the opposite way when a glowing golden god flies towards your island at mach 1
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Mania is gonna be so fucking good. Legit could be the perfect Sonic game.
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>>183554151
>TFW stage is Revenge of Shinobi/Shinobi III based
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>>183554847
ok dont get me too excited on the very unlikely chance that it turns out shit
>>
So the editor would be publisher-specific, right? A new editor wouldn't indicate a new creative team?
>>
/v/ seems to think a "leaker" in their thread is correct.
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>>183554801
The mural doesn't really tell much about which side is good, if either of them even are.
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>>183554343
2/3

>>183554778
Exactly. The manual also claims Knuckles had his Emeralds when Sonic had the other ones. Which, again, proves me right. Before SADX they were at least 14.
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>>183554950
Pretty much. Same with Archie where the comic went through multiple editors with Ian himself being under three.
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>>183554950
that's right
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>>183554950
Ian and most of the other creative team went through 2 or 3 editors at Archie.
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>>183554343
3/3
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>>183554991
I wouldn't put it at DX. Adventure's initial release seems to be where they said it's just seven emeralds, but it allowed for the possibility of powered up emeralds, which is how they're depicted in S3&K anyway.
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>>183554847
I'm still not 100% sold on the music. Some of the things we've heard sound awesome, but others haven't really gotten my attention much... and I really miss the style of S&K.
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>>183549127
How about the Sonic CD opening remade as a big Hub world? The forest, the grassland, the mountains you can run up and along, all of that. It can be really big and really simple. People always drool over the idea of "the CD opening, but playable" so why not just do it?
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>>183554973
I took a screenshot in case he ends up right.
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>>183555192
>which is how they're depicted in S3&K anyway.
except that would create a plot hole.
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>>183550671
>SNOOPING AS USUAL I SEE!
THEY FUCKING DID IT
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>>183555271
Because CD is trash along with that opening and both soundtracks.
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>>183555353
How specifically? Plot holes in Sonic are tricky since they only sometimes bother paying attention to continuity.
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>>183550671
>Gogobas
>Froglodites
>The mech suit
What happened to the no continuity rule in Boom?
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>>183555246
Unless they can bring in composers who can mimic the Michael Jackson style, we're pretty much out of luck in that regard. I suppose it's not impossible to do.
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>>183555369
Put the minute please. I watch it full tomorrow
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I was wondering about two things.

1. Has it been said definitively that IDW is going to take over the Sonic license from Archie or is it just rumors?

2. Do characters like the Freedom Fighters belong to SEGA or Archie? And is there any possibility of them appearing in the new comic?
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>>183555346
I also made a quick n dirty one with the 3k "evidence"
Personally I think it's bullshit but hey
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>>183555427
They did care about continuity up until Adventure at the very least, and still cared about it up until the Shadow game.
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>>183555432
That's called reused assets anon, if you ever get a chance ask Capcom about it, they know all about it.
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>>183555515
7:30
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>>183555532
>1. Has it been said definitively that IDW is going to take over the Sonic license from Archie or is it just rumors?
Yes. Read the OP.

>2. Do characters like the Freedom Fighters belong to SEGA or Archie?
Presumably SEGA.
>And is there any possibility of them appearing in the new comic?
Unknown, there's been zero mention of what IDW Sonic will be like.
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>>183555346
>Ice Cap
Confirmed fake, Sega wants to stay as far away from that zone as possible.
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>>183555532
1. IDW has the license. It was revealed on Sonic's official social media accounts.

2. Everything in the comics belongs to SEGA because it is a licensed series and Sonic is their intellectual property. The only thing that could belong to Archie is the actual issues themselves, and even that could potentially be negotiated (don't quote me on that second point, I'm not super sure on how comic reprints interact with IP licensing).
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>>183555661
why?
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>>183554761
>>183554991
>>183555167
i cant find the emeralds there, am i missing something? i only see perfect chaos and echidna heads on the sides
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>>183555532
1. Do you not follow the Sonic Twitter? They did a press release and everything

2. They were from SatAM, Sega owns them full stop. Still possible to use.
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>>183555661
>muh michael jackson
i'm leaning towards this being bullshit but honestly it really shouldn't be a difficult issue to work out, and with the mania hype they may have finally put the work in
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>>183555661
Sega only wants to stay away from the Genesis music for Ice Cap. Tee Lopes could've easily remixed the PC or Adventure music or composed a brand new track.
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>>183555661
>Somehow there's a massive loophole where by releasing 3&K with mania it makes the "Forbidden three" OK to use.
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>>183555603
Kek
thanks senpai
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>>183555271

That's not a bad idea anon.

A sense of scale would be nice too, like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCr5twS6xc8
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>>183555538
They cared about it less before Adventure if anything. Which is obvious enough from the fact that they had separate continuities between Japan and the West which they only reconciled beginning with Adventure.
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>>183555715
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>>183555416
That's some shit taste you got there.
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>>183555346
That's way too many zones, I don't believe it.
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>>183555753
>new track
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>>183554991
>The manual also claims Knuckles had his Emeralds when Sonic had the other ones.
are you sure the manual didnt fuck up and actually meant kux had the master emerald while sonic had the chaos emeralds?
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>>183555746
It's not Michael Jackson, it's Brad Buxer. He reused a, at the time, unreleased track from his old band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2OWC5Hosv8
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>>183555838
They only cared about it in Japan, because only Japan matters.
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>>183555746
It is a difficult issue to work out. Cinossu's been trying to sue Sega for a while now. And with MJ dead, the estate would have to deal with it.

So unless Tee remixed the PC version (which would cause a backlash) I doubt it would be included.
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>>183555975
Brad Buxer working on the game doesn't negate Michael Jackson also composing tracks for the game.
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>>183555976
The continuity was pretty loose in Japan too.
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>>183556060
We're talking about Ice Cap Zone, not the whole game.
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>>183556060
Do we have an idea of who composed what tracks?
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>>183555463
I always get confused about MJ and Sonic 3/S&K. I thought he composed for S3 but not S&K, and then I remember that his compositions didn't actually end up in the game or something, but some of his associates' did.
>>
Please help me see Sonic Forces less pessimistically.
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>>183556262
https://youtu.be/pCe9THmrasw
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>>183556164
>>183556262
>>183556337
We'll probably never know the whole truth.
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>>183555991
>So unless Tee remixed the PC version (which would cause a backlash)
I don't actually think it would be as big a deal as you think. Everyone know about the legal issues, Tee is a great and well-liked composer, and it'd be a remix anyway. Most fans would be understanding and accepting.
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>>183556060
It's difficult to say what tracks Jackson worked on if any. He might have just walked into a booth for a day and gone, "Whooo, UH, Yeah, Go!"
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>>183556369
Early 00s nostalgia.
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>>183555838
Comparing Sonic to Zelda, Iizuka is the series' Aonuma as Naka/Oshima are its Miyamoto. Except Iizuka also wants to be Miyamoto, so instead of tons of references to previous games we instead get very late asspull-sounding explanations for half the moon isn't blown up anymore.
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>>183555975
Holy fuck, it actually is Ice fucking Cap.
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>>183553571
INB4 IT'S TIED TO INFINITE
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>>183556162
Not really, and that's because there wasn't much before Sonic 3&K.

>>183555948
It says he checks for the 7 Emeralds and he can't find them, then he meets Eggman, who tells him Sonic has 7 Emeralds. He does, but they aren't the Emeralds Knuckles is looking for.
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>>183556369
It's a new game
It's got a wide variety of music
It's possibly connected with Mania
The amount of crazy combinations for CACs with be fascinating
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>>183556515
>infinite is a wisp
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>>183556526
i never liked that idea that super emeralds were ever a separate physical set of gems, since it just doesn't add up.

sort of like knuckles being 15 and the last of his kind doesn't add up.
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>>183556431
Some of the songs sound derivative of his own music though. For example the credits theme has a similar chord progression to Stranger In Moscow, a song he wouldn't release as a single until a year after the game's release.
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>>183556369
Go check out some of the comments on the trailers for it. It's kind of a reality check to see that most people are pretty excited for it.
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>>183556431
Based on interviews with other composers who worked with him, he started working on the game, didn't like working with the Genesis (either because he didn't like how it made his music sound or because writing music for a soundcard was unfamiliar), and decided to leave the project. A former SEGA employee claims it was because of the molestation allegations, but that's been debated. His associates made a bunch of music, but none of them were told or cared to find out what music even made it into the game. Then SEGA brought in regular game music composers like Howard Drossin and Jun Senoue.
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>>183555570
Funny!

A sad but true fact, but funny none the less!

>TFW Capcom is the company fans are actually looking forward the LEAST this time around.
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>>183556369
If you ever figure out a way, let me know. It's depressing. Back when the games were announced at the anniversary party last year I wasn't really hyped for Mania at all, but I was so happy for Forces like you couldn't believe. I literally drank people's cheers for the game. But with everything they revealed about Forces I became less and less interested, and with everything they revealed about Mania I became more interested, as they seemed like all the right choices. I feel cheated.
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>>183556732
There are rumors that MJ let them use the tracks, but he requested to not be credited for them because he hated the way they sounded.
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>>183555346
>Final details
Fingers crossed for Yoto losing his bet.
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>>183556656
>since it just doesn't add up.
Why wouldn't it?
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>>183552135
>thinking only white people are against race baiting politics

My caveat is that I live in Toronto and it is a city where every background lives and everyone gets along for the most part despite race and our police is fine and also has actual diversity, but the idea that races can't work and live or cooperate with each other is unhealthy, and a detriment to the future of all races and black people especially for their own reasons as a whole, and I say this as a mixed black. Whenever black people unilaterally blame all whites for anything is as disgusting as when all whites do the same thing to blacks. I have a stake in the future of both people's and I see the issues unique to both races. More should be done to work together than to get mad.

Not fucking Sonic, but I got baited into ranting about this. I'm excited for the IDW run and look forward to it. I highly doubt the private opinions of the editor will turn the new comic into Marvel tier race bait shit.

As long as Bonnie is in it, I'm a happy man.
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AHHHHHHHHH I CANNOT FUCKING WAIT FOR THIS GODDAMN GAME
I NEED IT I NEED IT I NEED IT I NEED IT I NEED IT I NEED IT I NEED IT I NEED IT I NEED IT I NEED IT
GIVE IT TO ME NOW YOU GLORIOUS MOTHERFUCKERS
WHITEHEAD IS GOING IN MY GODDAMN WILL
STEALTH CAN GET ME PREGNANT
JUST GIVE ME THE GAME
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>>183555537
>S3&K revamp
I call bullshit, there's no way we live in such an amazing timeline
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>>183556825
Bet?
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>>183556823
I've felt "meh" about Mania since its announcement and that's hardly changed since, although what you describe about Forces is literally me. Although, this Infinite news is making me more hopeful.

I want to believe that they are keeping our expectations low on purpose, instead of overhyping like they've done in the past only for it to bite them in the ass.
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>>183556827
we see the chaos emeralds become the super emeralds on screen in s3k then we see the emeralds as super emeralds in tikal's time around the altar, then the present day emeralds as super emeralds in the ark's core altar
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>>183556824
Jackson couldn't handle all that BWANG
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYwio5ywz6Y
0:29 btw
someone a few thread ago said there was "no way" to prove that 14 emeralds appeared in a sonic adventure prototype at some point
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>>183556872
this
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>>183556824
It makes sense, since the credits list the composers, mainly MJ's team, and then SEGA Sound Team, which fits with the composers writing a bunch of music as they normally would and then people who actually knew how to work with the soundchip making the in-game music. It's a level of disconnect from the final project that MJ probably didn't like.
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>>183556864
>everyone gets along
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>>183541927
Someone already did it.
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>>183550671
So that's why Tails was wearing the hat. Also where's Knuckles?
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>>183556975
>we see the emeralds as super emeralds in tikal's time around the altar, then the present day emeralds as super emeralds in the ark's core altar
Either you're wrong or all 14 of them can go super.
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>>183557135
This is terrifying.
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>>183555346
>Sakura Synagogue
yeah that's definitely legit. he forgot about Champagne Church and Monotone Mosque
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>>183556872
When you check the calendar multiple times a day.
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>>183557198
or the idea that there are ever 14 separate emeralds at any given time is a misunderstanding?
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>>183550671
Oh my GOD you guys I accidentally highlighted the link like this "http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5uim0" and left out the "u" at the end please watch it right now
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>>183556376
So were they involved in Sonic and Knuckles too or no?
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>>183550671
"Cranky-wanky"
Oh dear fucking christ,
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>>183557296
Which totally explains how Sonic and Knuckles both had 7 Emeralds at the same time, ads for Sonic Adventure showing 14 Emeralds and the mural showing 14 Emeralds before getting retconned.
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>>183557370
Not at all. Everything for S&K was written by Howard Drossin.
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>>183554761
>>183554991
>>183555167
>>183555858

those could very well be just decoration but i guess you have a point, i remember in fleetway's sonic the comic, when knux and the angel island first appear in the story sonic has 6 chaos emeralds (as in sonic1) but knux has other six emeralds that fuse togheter with the ones sonic has

knux explains the emeralds used to be 7 in totals but six of them were split and one remained intact to control their instability

later on, knux gathers the twelve that were split and turns them back into 6, while he keeps the 7th one

none of this is considered canon by today's fans anyways, but i guess maybe it was canon back then?
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>>183557339
what the FUCK
WHO IS THIS GUY
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>>183557215

The problem is that he got lucky with the Japanese motif and the special stage (somewhat).

Someone ask Taxman whether or not it's legit. I remember him debunking the "Mania Galoonia" leak.
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>>183550840
I'm sorry what.

>>183552665
To be fair, Jon Gray literally does the same thing.
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>>183557467
I don't think comics were ever canon to the games anyway? Different continuities.
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>>183557424
do we actually have any indication that the two of them ever possessed two sets of emeralds at the same time? or just super vague stories that don't make any sense?
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>>183557469
I am actually, genuinely crying from laughing.
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>>183557467
>those could very well be just decoration but i guess you have a point
Well, if they were they would have had no need to change it. It just means they still knew and cared about the details during the GameCube era, but they still wanted some kind of new direction for the series and actually went back and changed those details to suit their new view of the series.
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>>183556369
if it helps, Aaron Webber actually quit his job a little while before Sonic Boom came out but he came back and is still here. He said he was leaving to focus on charity work but a lot people of suspected that it was also because he knew what a shitstorm Sonic Boom was going to be and wanted to get out ASAP. Why would anyone involved in PR want to deal with that mess? He did come back eventually in 2015 and he hasn't quit yet. Whenever he mentions Sonic Forces on the streams, he seems genuinely excited and not just in a fake/forced way. It's not like he's just some random guy working for Sega (cough cough most people there), he's an actual Sonic fan who knows what's shit and what's not. I trust his reactions.
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>>183557339
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>>183557424
That's fucking stupid, the Super emeralds were just powered up versions of the regular emeralds. They were a throw away plot point that was only needed so you could get the emeralds again in Sonic and Knuckles and have a super form that topped Super Sonic.
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>>183555661
>>Ice Cap
>Confirmed fake, Sega wants to stay as far away from that zone as possible.
why?
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>>183557558
Iizuka saw the tech demo made by Whitehead
walked up to a white board
wrote "Sonic 1, 2, 3, CD"
turned to the team
blurted out "Sonic Mania!"
~fin
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>>183551719
>the editor can't decide what to add to the book
hahahahahaah
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

Holy SHIT you don't know bunk about comics. One of my favorite stories about this shit is how the editor or Grifter for the New 52 asked the writer and artist to add a fight on a plane to the first issue TWO WEEKS before the comic went to print.
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>>183557736
>a lot people of suspected that it was also because he knew what a shitstorm Sonic Boom was going to be and wanted to get out ASAP.
Poor Stephen Frost couldn't do the same. I know a lot of people hate the guy but he was doing his best with the shitty situation. I used to be pissed at him too but I got over it.
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>>183557642
Yes, the manual of the game.
If Sonic has 7 Chaos Emeralds at the end of Sonic 2 and at the start of Sonic 3, there's no way Knuckles could have had 7 Chaos Emeralds at the same time unless there are actually 14 of them.

>>183557836
You say that's what they thought, but it's not what they did. Which means it's likely not what they actually thought.
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>>183557858
Music legal issues, and using a new track or the PC track would upset people
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>>183555753
>Sega only wants to stay away from the Genesis music for Ice Cap
whats wrong with that?
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>>183557983
If you think Archie is bad at legal rights you should see Sega and music rights.
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>>183541927
Just found this one.
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>>183557983
Fun fact: Sega doesn't know a lot of the rights to the music for the Genesis games. Here's an example of a song they don't have the rights to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-PeNePX-_A
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>>183557978
Like anybody gives a fuck about the Jetzons, every single comment on that video is from Sonic fags. Hell even a good chunk of MJ fans are probably Sonic fans. Relinquish that music to us!
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>>183558142
how do they not have the rights to the title screen music
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>>183555819
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCr5twS6xc8

what is that? looks like dreamcast graphics and has a feel to it similar to sonic but the characters is too far away to see (wich sucks btw)
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>>183558142
I recall once hearing an extended theme for that track with the sound of a jet or something, that might be why. As far as I remember, a different composer did that music.
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>Some days later, Knuckles was patrolling the altar of the island's seven Chaos Emeralds, but all traces of the Emeralds had vanished. While in his relentless investigation of the island, Knuckles encountered an unfamiliar man in the woods.
>The man called himself Dr. Eggman, and already knew Knuckles was the guardian of the Chaos Emeralds. He said to Knuckles:
>"I am a scientist who came here to stop (?) that egg. Uumu, since you are the Chaos Emeralds' guardian I knew I had to inform you. The truth is, there is an evil hedgehog named Sonic that has been interfering in my research, he is the one who has stolen this island's Chaos Emeralds."
>"The Chaos Emeralds were stolen....!"
>With Dr. Eggman's ingenious lies, Knuckles was very easily tricked. That is how Knuckles' challenge to Sonic was started.
Pic related is what happens next. This is the first time Sonic comes there.

Iizuka is basically pulling on you the same trick Eggman pulled on Knuckles, and you're falling for it.
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>>183558291
Several songs in 1 and 2 were by an outside band.
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>>183556526
>It says he checks for the 7 Emeralds and he can't find them, then he meets Eggman, who tells him Sonic has 7 Emeralds. He does, but they aren't the Emeralds Knuckles is looking for.

anybody has scans of this ?
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>>183558142
>>183558291
They don't any of the rights to Sonic 1&2's music. All of that is owned by Masato Nakamura and SEGA has to pay royalties every time they use or remix it.

>>183558359
Nope.
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Is there pretty much zero chance of a stage or anything from 3D Blast being in Mania?
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>>183557925
Yeah I genuinely feel bad for the guy.I remember the outrage when all the Sonic fansites posted the interviews with him and the staff. When people get angry, they'll scream at anyone involved if they have a name, even if it's not their fault.
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>>183556950
I'm sorry that's how you feel about Mania. I played S3&K for the first time a couple of years ago and I had an actual blast with it that I never thought I could have with with the classic games, so I'm looking forward to Mania with that still fresh in my mind.

At this point I think the problems with forces have to do with what they've made of the game, so it doesn't really matter what they show. I don't really think they would have anything to gain from shooting themselves in the foot, either. Unfortunately, the best thing I could do is just move on I guess. It'd hurt more to keep watching.
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>>183558291
Look into the story of how Spinball's title screen's music came to be.
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>>183558304
Zenith.
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>>183558291
Contracts
Wut are they?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
~Sega circa 1991
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>>183558438
http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_3_manuals
http://info.sonicretro.org/images/5/5d/Sonic3_MD_JP_SonicJam_manual.pdf
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>>183556656
>knuckles being 15 and the last of his kind
maybe his kind perished 15 years ago? ....but then who looked after him when he was a baby ?
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>>183558452
PANIC
PUPPET
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>>183558291
You cannot be fucking serious...
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>>183558528
THAT'S WHY HE STAYS A LONER HE WAS BORN BY HIMSELF HE DOESN'T NEED A POSSE HE GETS IT ON BY HIMSELF
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They used the title screen music for Sonic Generations, he's pulling your leg.
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>>183558528
him being more or less immortal and in some master emerald induced sleep was my headcanon of choice
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>>183558708
he just said they need to pay royalties
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>>183558669
>>183558404
see >>183558439

I thought /sthg/ knew their shit better than this.
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>>183558459
You do you, man. I love classic games too of course, but I just have so much emotional investment in modern Sonic for reasons. Rain or shine I stick at his side. Classic is fine on his own, so I can take my time with him. A part of me does still believe Forces will be a solid game, but I'm bracing myself for the negativity either way.
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>>183555623
>>183555681
>>183555740

Appreciated. I have trouble keeping up on this. Have some Sally dressed as Shantae.
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>>183558528
Well my boy, it all started one day, when Jedi Knuckles had a nightmare and decided to microwave a baby...
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>>183558669
Welcome to Japanese Game Development in the 80s & 90s. Games that were made with no forethought for the future. Games that were made with a "one and done" type mindset.

I bet you have no idea how many classic games have all their source code lost to the aether because no one archived it. It was a serious problem.
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>>183558691
ADVERSARIES GET SHELVED
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>>183558893
Sonic characters in Shantae outfits will never not be amazing. Need some with Risky and Rotty tho.
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>>183557026
i dont get it guys, all that was "prototype" or "beta" shouldnt be considered retconned from canon by the final release?
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>>183558979
*Jazz breakdown*
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>>183558979
OOOOOOOOOH that's what he says.
I always thought he said, "How'd this series get shelved?"
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>>183559001
Yeah, but that actually proves that they did consider to have 14 emeralds appear in the game itself at some point and that the mural isn't random (which is further confirmed by them actually going through the effort of changing it in DX)
It just shows nobody really said "hey, they're just 7!" until after Adventure.
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>>183541603
We know what it's like to be Infinite, what is it like to be Finite?
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>>183557718
>those could very well be just decoration

>Well, if they were they would have had no need to change it.

they probably changed that so nobody would fall into the misconception that there were 14 chaos emeralds at some point
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>>183558860
>I just have so much emotional investment in modern Sonic for reasons
I can relate so much, man.
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>>183558996

what we really need is Twitch and Vinegar in Egg Boss uniforms
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>>183559426
And yet Knuckles also had 7 Chaos Emeralds.
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>>183559286
It starts with posting on /sthg/
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>>183558893
Very cute!
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>>183559440
Sorry Tails if this looks gay to the viewers
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>>183559286
Ask Buddy.
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>>183558841
Pretty sure we've been taking on new posters lately, so the possibility of more people who don't know things like this would also be rising. Not to mention the 4chan tradition of exaggeration to make things seem worse than they are.
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>>183558928
>it's funny because it's true
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>>183559551
And so did Tails.
And the Super Emeralds were separate emeralds.
42 EMERALDS CONFIRMED!?
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>>183559608
Outing your friend like that's NO GOOD.
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>>183558996
>>183559482
What we need is Rouge dressed as Risky.
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>>183559721
>Pretty sure we've been taking on new posters lately
We should initiate them in one of /sthg/'s older rituals.
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>>183559878
>And so did Tails.
When exactly? In an alternate path that can't be considered the canonical outcome?

>42 EMERALDS CONFIRMED!?
We don't know if the Sonic 1 Emeralds are the same as the Sonic 2 Emeralds, but it doesn't matter since they're never brought up again.
So yes, you may actually be right and before they got permanently retconned to 7 they might have been even more than 14. But there's no way to tell.
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>>183560082
>In an alternate path that can't be considered the canonical outcome?
That would mean it could happen even thought it doesn't. The info you find in a non-canon path is still canon, because it's not something that happens, it's info that is true regardless.
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Weren't there a crazy amount of emeralds in the comics? I remember some weird issue with like a big mask and Sonic swimming around in an ocean of emeralds.
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>>183559878
Most of the classic game manuals, far as I remember, implied that Chaos Emeralds just occurred all over the place. They'd always say something like "South Islands emeralds" or "the Floating Island's emeralds." Which is the direction the early Archie comics went with, having there been way more emeralds than just the seven we have now.
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>>183558392
>>Some days later, Knuckles was patrolling the altar of the island's seven Chaos Emeralds, but all traces of the Emeralds had vanished.
yes, because sonic had collected them in sonic 2's special stages
how the emeralds got there is a mistery tho, but i guess the special stage has the power to take the emeralds from their altar ....somehow ?
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>>183560258
Yeah, and different planets had different colors. One of the earliest things Ian did was condense them into seven then dump them in the Special Zone.
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>>183560340
That would mean Eggman wasn't lying.
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>>183560261
Was that just the american manuals or the original japanese?
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>>183560368
doesn't change the fact that sega was fine with them being more than 7
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>>183560509
That was from a period of time Sega didn't give a fuck at all about the comic.
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>>183558452
>Is there pretty much zero chance of a stage or anything from 3D Blast being in Mania?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL3Wo8wicHg
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>>183560472
Don't recall, but it could be both. The Japanese manuals were usually more vague anyway.
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At the start of Sonic 3, Sonic is in his Super form and Knuckles steals seven Chaos Emeralds from him.
http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_3_manuals#Central_storyline
This manual, from Sonic's, Tails' and Eggman's perspective, says that they all find out Chaos Emeralds are on the island, which means they know there are more than seven.

All of this is undeniable truth.
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>>183558505
>Zenith
???
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>>183558841
>Call it a band instead of "a guy."
>Say "a lot" instead of all just to be on the safe side.
>WOW U DUN KNOW UR SHIT

For fuck's sake.
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>>183558525
>http://info.sonicretro.org/images/5/5d/Sonic3_MD_JP_SonicJam_manual.pdf

cant read moonrunes
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desu i would have loved to see some Advance 2 stages

Music Plant, Hot Crater, Techno Base
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>>183560626
That was a nice surprise when that dropped.
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>>183560885
The wiki page has the translations.
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>>183560775
https://youtu.be/eCr5twS6xc8
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>>183560931
>yfw that was made by the guy that's making Mania's intro
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>>183560645
Rusty Ruin is a top tier stage aesthetic and music track for the entire series.
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>>183560887
Me too. Well, I actually care more about Advance 3.
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>>183560775
You could always try reading the title of the video you quoted in the first place.

It's Zineth.
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>>183558525
>When he regained consciousness, Knuckle found his body thrown outside of the altar. What Knuckle saw as he slowly picked himself up and looked around was the half-destroyed ruins of the altar. Knuckle jumped back inside it in confusion. However, the Chaos Emerald that should have been in there had disappeared, without leaving a single fragment behind.

they warped to the special stage so sonic could collect them in order to beat robotnik in sonic 2
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>>183555271
So basically Utopia
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>>183560887
>there's a level where they go to an Advance level and have modern designs in Mania's style
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>>183560626
>Completely flat
He did this on purpose.
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>>183561137
The Death Egg fell while they disappeared.
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>>183550663
>Fixed now

Only it isn't?
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>>183561165
Utopia is green hill zone. It's even called green hill zone.
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>>183558392
>Iizuka is basically pulling on you the same trick Eggman pulled on Knuckles, and you're falling for it.
>Iizuka is the Eggman of Sonic Team
it all adds up
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>>183559608
>Sorry Tails if this looks gay to the viewers
fun fact, at some point tails was ment to be sonic's girlfriend in early sonic 2 development

sonicxtails' love song <3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of5n484ptGM
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>>183561569
It was not, it's an unrelated song
still cute though, but it would probably be one-sided anyway

well, unrelated until they used it for sonicXelise
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>>183561569
Fuck you.
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Are the ghosts in Sandopolis Act 2 already out when you play as Knuckles because Sonic already let them out?
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>>183557075
I long for the day, Anon.

Not him, by the way.
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>>183560228
>non-canon path is still canon,
>it's not something that happens
make up your mind
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>>183561795
A piece of lore explored exclusively by a non-canon path is still canon, because it's something outside of the path itself.
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>>183560258
>weren't there a crazy amount of emeralds in the comics?

so they were just like the anarchy beryls ?
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>>183561569
Souuuurce

That'd be a cool tidbit, if true.
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>>183561771
Yes, his story is after Sonic's story.
That's also why Mecha Sonic doesn't die when Sonic defeats him.
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Liam Obrian voice of Infinite also voices Illidan.

Coincidence?
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>>183560406
>That would mean Eggman wasn't lying.

i guess technically he wasnt lying about that....

sonic probably had no idea he was ""stealing"" them but i guess it was for a very good causeanyways ...i mean emeralds dont really ""belong"" to anyone right? one could say they are the planet's treasure ?

and eggman lied when he said sonic was evil ..
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>>183543425
Forced tether mechanic that the entire game was designed around, making all of the levels overly large and barren.

Good special stages though.
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>>183561132
>You could always try reading the title of the video you quoted in the first place.
i know that, im just asking what the fuck a zineth even is and why is it even here
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>>183561989
It isn't true.

>>183562208
See >>183561137 >>183560769
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>>183561101
I'm really happy for him to get to do that. He draws an amazing Sonic.
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>>183562510
Actually meant to link to >>183561404
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>>183541927
I threw it together right before posting the thread. Here's a better version with the actual text from the game and a slightly less shitty cut job on Infinite.
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>>183561771
yes, and they are also digimons
https://dmowiki.com/Bakemon
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>>183562029
In what regard? Does this comparison surprise you in some way?
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How will Sonic die?
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>>183562713
He'll get cut down in a second
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>>183562510
>It isn't true.
dreams come true
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>>183562640
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>>183562892
Not yours.
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>>183562713
>"Mobius: 25 Years Later" flashbacks
>'06 flashbacks

please, no
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>>183562713
Suicide after doing everything he wants to do, permanently putting an end to Eggman, and realizing he has hit his peak speed and it's all downhill from there.
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>>183562510

in early development sonic 2 and sonic cd were the same proyect (look for early sonic2 stage concepts in regards to time travel )then they became two separate plotlines

tails is introduced as a new character in sonic2
sonic meets a new girl who had feelings toward him in sonic cd
tails has a rather androgynous appearance
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>>183562713
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>>183560769
>>183560769
>they all find out Chaos Emeralds are on the island, which means they know there are more than seven.
>All of this is undeniable truth.
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>>183563112
That is pure conjecture based on huge assumptions.
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>>183563112
>>in early development sonic 2 and sonic cd were the same proyect (look for early sonic2 stage concepts in regards to time travel )then they became two separate plotlines
>
>tails is introduced as a new character in sonic2
>sonic meets a new girl who had feelings toward him in sonic cd
Cool, I didn't think of that, but it's still speculation. Also the song could still be unrelated, just like how the other Dreams Come True similarities aren't related to Sonic. And I don't think the same composer worked on CD anyway, so that probably happened later on in development.

>>183563205
It is stated in official material.
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>>183552490
>Sonic Rush
>Not Sonic 2
>>
Do you think an updated/modern Sonic bible will ever get leaked?
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>>183563112
>tails has a rather androgynous appearance
That's just because Tails is perfect.
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>>183562713
>How will Sonic die?
mephiles
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>>183563456
We already have bits of it and it's COMPLETE SHIT
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>>183563456
Probably not something up to date. But with time things get distributed and they circulate and one day they may end up leaked.
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>>183563247
>That is pure conjecture based on huge assumptions.
welcome to /sthg/
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>>183563456
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>>183563348
>the song could still be unrelated

not unrelated, its used for the options menu theme in sonic2 , also used for the end credits

https://youtu.be/AJf2m3pbtaI

https://youtu.be/zTcGIk-Pfnk
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>>183563456
>>183563589
https://board.sonicstadium.org/topic/19847-segas-secret-sonic-bible-that-well-probably-never-see-to-mars/
>Now these two worlds are 'connected' in a strange way, according to the bible, they are separated by a 'gate' what happens on one world, doesn't happen on the other,* So whilst the Deadly Six appear in 'Sonic's World' the 'Human World' has never heard of them. So this sorta explains why in some games we see something happening, then in the next game there's no reference or mention to it.
Well, this is already outdated considering we see red alien guy in what clearly looks like the human world and they've kind of mixed them up again.

>>183563729
Unrelated to the early stages of development were 2 and CD were the same thing.
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>>183560769
Except that isn't what it says. What it says is that there are chaos emerald energy readings coming from the island, but that could very easily be the master emerald. Also, all the chaos emeralds on the island disappeared prior to the Death Egg crashing onto Angel Island (the first time). We don't know how long Knuckles was unconscious between the time the altar exploded on him and the time he woke up with it destroyed.
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if real human anon has feelings for a fictional furry waifu its ok.

if fictional human elise has feelings for fictional furry hedgehog its gross

explain
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>tfw it's finally died down
Thank fuck, I can finally go to bed
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>>183563803
thats ok but all of that was posted earlier on in this thread
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>>183564068
And yet Eggman is completely sure he can just go there and get the Emeralds.
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>>183564092
It's gross because she kissed a corpse.
>>
>>183564068
>>183564180
Isn't the implication that Eggman is the one to actually get the Angel Island emeralds and then tricks Knuckles?
>>
I wish I was all alone on Angel Island like Knuckles.
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>>183562713
If you mean the character, never, Sonic has plot armor

Reminder that Sonic survived a fucking /black hole/ because of his main character immunity
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>>183564210
if you loved someone but that person died a few moments ago and you knew you could help bringing said person back to life by kissing.....wouldnt you?
>>
I'm glad there's at least a small gap in time between 3K and Mania instead of it being directly after like Sonic XG. Sonic XG just made it feel like everything you did in 3K was for nothing.
>>
>>183564296
I LOVE SAGE
>>
>>183564263
but he doesnt have them, we never see him having them in the game
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>>183564092
If Elise kissing Sonic is bestiality then fairy tales like The Princes and the Frog are too.
>>
>>183564180
And you're expecting Eggman, the roboticist, to be a complete expert on mysterious magical stones? Just because he thinks there are more emeralds to collect doesn't mean there actually are.

>>183564263
It says the emerald itself vibrates and flashes before exploding and disappearing. How and why would Eggman do that?
>>
>>183564347
Sage does not love or even like you.
>>
>>183564341
>Sonic XG
nevermind xg
>>
>>183564092
People don't like it because it's the climax to a romance that's dumb, unbelievable, and shouldn't exist.
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>>183564296
You stop that right now little missy.
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>>183564403
beauty and the beast
>>
>>183564448
Her rejection only makes my obsession stronger.
>>
>>183564543
It's ok cause the Beast turns into a human in the end even though the Beast form is a lot hotter and probably has a dick that would please Belle even more than a human one.
>>
>>183564590
The beast form is supposed to be a curse. If anything, it'd give him a smaller dick.
>>
>>183564498
No, normalfags do think it promotes bestiality.
>>
>>183564341
is sonic xg the one where the first level has angel island get fucking immediately destroyed literally seconds after the end of doomsday zone
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>>183564590
>watching Disney's bastardizations
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>>183564405
Knuckles finds out they disappeared after he wakes up, so it might not even be related. Apart from this, you have a point here. The only thing I can do in this case is speculate, so I'll go ahead and say that it might be somehow related to the Death Egg falling.
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>>183564659
Were we talking about normalfags?
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>>183564659
Based Lacey Chabert laughed at those accusations. I knew she was good people when she made my dangus hard in Lost in Space.
>>
>if real human anon has feelings for a fictional furry waifu its ok.
oh you sweet summer child
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>>183564718
that might make sense, it's the only thing we know couldn't have happened earlier (if there are only 7 chaos emeralds, sonic got 6 of them in sonic 1 first)
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>>183564296
post sage's theme song
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It's kind of a cute ship.
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Who else has Mania kept from suicide for exactly a year now?
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OH ITS A WINDY AND SUNNY DAY
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>>183564659
>normalfags do think it promotes bestiality
maybe sonic is not ment for normalfags
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>>183564957
Go get help, buddy.
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>>183564957
Don't do what Sonic does, buddy.
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>>183564940
it'd be cuter if mainline knuckles were boom-sized tbdesu
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>>183564882
the board is composed by a lot of people who have sonic characters as waifus
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>>183564296
that's a cute sloth.
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>>183564957
YE-YE-YE-YEEAEE, buddy.
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>>183565101
But are they all human?
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>>183564296
>>183564906
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>>183564957
not suicide for me but it definitely helped depression. It didn't 'cure' it or anything but it made it kind of easier to deal with. Sometimes all you need is something to look forward to, even if it's just a dumb video game. I know you were expecting joke answers but eh
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>>183564957
Orchestral stabs, buddy.
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NEW THREAD

>>183565203
>>183565203
>>183565203
>>183565203

Hopefully I didn't fuck it up too much, after 834 threads I decided to make one myself
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>>183564957
I'm not suicidal just mad at myself and worried because I'm nearly 30 and still don't have a fucking job. I told myself I needed to have a job by the time Mania came out. That was before the delay.
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>>183565181
I wasn't actually, Mania and Forces have been my crutches ever since they were revealed
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>>183565301
Have you actually applied anywhere?
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>>183564092
real human fanboys have feelings for sonic characters and are ok with it
real human fangirls have feelings for sonic and are ok with it
fictional human elise has romantic feelings for sonic
fans loose their minds and hate it
then they go back to masturbate to sonic porn, write fanfictions and post about their waifus
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>>183565364
Because fictional human Elise having romantic feelings for Sonic was very poorly done and not a subplot that needed to exist in the first place. You might as well say Metroid fans don't like Samus's character being explored because they all shit on Other M.
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>>183565350
No but I'm sure I'll get a job just fine, I just don't have a college education which makes me feel self conscious. My biggest obstacle was that I didn't have a car, but I do now I just need to get insurance. Good thing we're past the bump limit because blogshit.
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>>183565561
Another fag that's never had a job before here. Applied everywhere I could and even McDonalds said I didn't have enough experience. So good luck.
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>>183565652
Aah yes the old job experience catch 22.
Is there a point where you dwelled in basements so long that you're doomed to dwell there forever?
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>>183565875
I dunno man, I'm only 26. Tried looking for volunteer work to get some experience but there's none in my area, they get people from the local prison to do that kind of shit instead.
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>>183566025
Weird, I am also exactly 26
How do you survive? Live with parents?
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>>183565652
were you applying for full-time?
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>>183566169
Yeah.

>>183566214
Part time.
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>>183566242
get a CDL license, try getting a trucking job
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>>183566340
Got one actually, still told I don't have enough experience.
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>>183566505
sketchy-looking local businesses?
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>>183566625
All the national chains and shit ran them out of business before I was even born. Shit small town.
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>>183554348
That doesn't mean much when the emeralds are super emerald sized at the end of Windy Valley, Casinopolis, and Ice Cap as well.
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This is important guys. We need to get jobs so we can buy merch and support the hog.
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>>183566701
sketchy-looking not-so-local businesses more than 30 minutes away from your house?
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>>183566025
>>183566169
Shit, you guys are my age. Best of luck, man.
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>>183567636
4chan is filled with twenty something social misfit males. We are all slightly different shades of the same person.
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>>183567789
I wish, but I don't think so. There are people who are married with kids here.
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