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>Disscussion of Final Fantasy games
The Wiki: finalfantasy.wikia.com
"What version should I play?" Information: http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>FF XI
July update: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/52835
https://wiki.dspt.info/index.php/DarkStar_Servers

>FF XIV Stormblood Trailer
https://youtu.be/Acf6lPBNXOU

>FFXV
KING’S KNIGHT announced for Mobile & Fishing game for PSVR
Episode Ignis Trailer: https://youtu.be/_sRPZzWeric
Brotherhood episodes: http://pastebin.com/Q7Efb9F2

>Final Fantasy Record Keeper
Game Mechanics PDF: http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf
Upcoming Banners List: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e1xUGHH-OBdlM0QzWoME4GRJt9v3ocQmdmylI62hwFk/edit#gid=1211382974
http://bantha.org/~dscotton/ffrk.html
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11vnPui7vWmEcky7XK5XFMf6TWCIDWIOBJykStFwR5KE
FAQ Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/XxJuYdTE

>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius
How to JP: http://pastebin.com/91MEQ6wW
GL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/c43qGvi6
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vqMFkPjm0cbnxR37U8ATXZEgRPspHSR8UyeCFkTEq10

>MOBIUS Final Fantasy
FAQ Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/nGC6BJ84

>Other game information
http://pastebin.com/xMVaH4Hv

Previous Thread: >>182706605
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>>182752185
Cloud is the cutest in that picture
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>>182752185
Why are there so many beads on the earlier FF protagonists?
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>>182752481
Amano ain't got to explain shit
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Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.
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>>182752185
Haven't played VI in close to 20 years. Thought Locke was the main character this whole time
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>>182751715
Are you for real?
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anyone notice that General info on FF games got changed to Disscussion of Final Fantasy games in the OP
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>>182753107
I did
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>awaken Tidus
>he loses his iconic Brotherhood for that ugly fucking yellow and green Variable Steel monstrosity

What the fuck, bros? Did global fuck up and switch his 5* and 6* sprites? His fucking TMR is Brotherhood, why would they do this shit
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>>182753280
It's not a global-specific thing, and it's pretty dumb. At least they learned their lesson and had 6* Cloud keep his Buster Sword.
Honestly 5* Teedus should have just had his default sword if they insisted on changing it when he awakened.
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FFT is garbage
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>>182752593
Well, yeah. I'm certainly not playing it for the OC donuts, story or gameplay.
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>>182753427
you're garbage.
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>Died during the fire crystal explosion like ten times already trying to maximize gains
I can't take this anymore. I think I'm just going to drop FFV.
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>>182753645
git gud
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>>182753645
Modern FF gamer everyone
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>>182753502
so might as well jerk off to the porn and not bother at all
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>>182753502
The story is actually pretty okay though. Very much like an old-timey SNES RPG.
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So I had a few mog coins left and got enough cactuars to level up a unit to max, andd the next unit on my list was shine, is she somewhat useful?
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>>182753280
Well, he does give Brotherhood away as his TMR after all.
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>>182753965
Shine borders usefulness but only just. She has a dark imperil to benefit certain units (Elza, Orlandeau or Reberta with a dark weapon) and an attack that's not completely worthless as a finisher (effective 420% modifier).
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>>182754087
Alright, thanks man.
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Are the Mog Raid materials ever going to be useful again? I have a ton left over.
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>>182754204
No. Make a couple capes for mag-evade memes and then dump the rest into spears to gear up expedition units.
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>>182753609
Don't talk to him like that
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>>182753280
I'm not your bro
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>>182753280
Ability to use lower rarity sprites when?
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Just got Brave Exvius, is there anything I should be aiming for to re-roll?

I think that one free roll they gave me was a three star, should I restart?
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Which ff girl has the best rear end?
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>>182754724
If you're willing to reroll properly, you want to get a 5* base chainer, the most key piece for a power team. The current list is:
Orlandeau, Fryevia, Reberta, Aileen, Tidus, and Fohlen (note that Fohlen is generally considered a cut below due to requiring a turn of setup time, but the gulf between non-chainers and chainers is vast)
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>>182754724
check your mailbox, might be some more free tickets there somewhere.
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>>182754935
penelo

I remember playing through ff12 on the ps2 with penelo as my avatar just so I can see her fat ass as she runs.
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>>182754937
>>182754950
Thanks
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I want to fuck Vaan in the ass
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>>182754724
Try to get Orlandeau and Zidane on your roll
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>>182755289
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>>182755309
>>182754950
>>182754937
Oh I see the only way to reroll is to reset my phone or create a bunch of facebook accounts, I'll just stick with what I got.
My goal is the Nier units anyway
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>>182754724
buy all the bundles
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>>182755475
>or create a bunch of facebook accounts
You only need the one (two if you want to attach the account you end up with to a FB too).
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>>182755475
You should really reconsider, if the Nier units is your goal then learning to do this process will allow you to guarantee yourself 2B, 9S and the rest. You are gonna have a bad time more likely than not if you do not overcome this challenge.
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>>182755475
You've made a mistake, essentially. Don't bind an account to a facebook until you want to keep it.
Just gather lapis and tickets as best you can. Getting 9S (and 21O but who wants her) won't be too difficult.
But you probably won't get 2B or A2 and should accept that now.
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>>182755740
How could it grantee it if they only give one free roll? I didn't get any other tickets and only 400 lapis.

Also it's too late anyway because I already bought bundles.
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>>182755792
My passion will be the catalyst for successful rolls, I just know it. I'm not gonna roll a single time until that event.
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>>182755792
>Don't bind an account to a facebook until you want to keep it.
But I thought you needed an account that has BE bound to it in order to reset to begin with.
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>>182755797
>Not researching something before you fall into shit
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>>182755938
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>>182756054
I thought the process was
>bind a BE account to an FB and then log out in order to start over
>ever time you want to start over after that just log into that same FB and log out again
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reroll until you get a 5*. Any 5* will carry you through the entire story except ramza and delita.
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>>182756136
No it's
>Create FB account
>Bind account
>roll
>(assume you want to re-roll)
>make a new FB account
>Bind account
>roll
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>>182756136
You only ever bind the account you want to keep.
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>>182756217
But then how do you start over?
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>>182756136
>>182756175
The reroll process is
>install BE
>play through prologue 'n shit and roll
>does it look good?
>no: uninstall and clear cache, repeat
>yes: bind to facebook account
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>>182756136
anon, just go to settings from your android, apps, scroll down to FFEXVIUS, and clear all data from there. Then start it up and roll. If bad roll, clear data again and try again.

Only bind to facebook when you finally get a good roll you want to keep.
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>people still think global is getting the Nier event

Even if we do we'll just get global exclusive units instead like how they cut Balthier
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>>182755797
If I start over with the free roll and some tickets, I will do that hundreds of times (if I *really* want to, I am exaggerating and ignoring luck to prove my point) until I get a perfect result.
In reality, I got a near-perfect result on my 2nd or 3rd reroll and kept it, and everyone is giving me shit right now because I have all the important things covered. Trust me, you can do better by learning the system than you possibly can by throwing money at it unless you wanna spend like a grand, by which time you get guaranteed results from brute-forcing it.
But this isn't Fire Emblem Heroes, where 100$ can brute-force it.
Nigga I can buy a Nintendo Switch with half the money everyone considers to be enough to guarantee a 5*.
I dropped an account I spent 100$ on long ago that had Lightning and followed up on the things I am telling you, I'll post a screenshot of my team in a moment for the proof that you should be listening.
I don't want you to have a bad time.
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>>182756336
It's been confirmed
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>>182756247
There's 6 different ways. BE has the friendliest rerolls out of any mobage. I'll list the best two

1. The normal reroll for any mobage - Download the game. Play until you do all your starting rolls or to get what you want. If you don't, clear cache and download date, let it reupdate and your done.

2. The lazy BE way - bind one shitty account to a Facebook you'll never use and just log in to it to erease your new accounts you make

The first version is more time consuming but is the mobage standard for rerolling.
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>>182756336
It's been announced already.
>Even if we do we'll just get global exclusive units instead like how they cut Balthier
The two global exclusives they announced are A2 and Eve. Eve will certainly be a trash-tier raid reward like Adam, but we don't know what will happen with A2, how good she'll be or what rarity, or if she's taking anyone's place on a banner.
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>>182756336
No one THINKS GL is getting the Nier event, we all already know it because they announced the damn thing. And there are global exclusives but there aren't any units being removed.

>>182756335
But that's way slower than binding a shit account to a throwaway FB. Everyone did it that way when the game came out.
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>>182756336
They literally confirmed A2 and Abel are Global exclusive units
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>>182756336
>>people still think global is getting the Nier event

SUCK MY DICKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>182756497
Who's got the time to make a hundred trash FB accounts?
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I don't even know anything about Nier apart from the blindfolded slut (2B) that gets posted a lot but I feel the need to spend all my lapis trying to get her.
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How do you limit Burst? I googled it and they just give me rankings.
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>>182756260
Uninstall and clear cache doesn't work with be
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>>182756435
>2. The lazy BE way
Oh, so the way I said is still possible. Why does everyone delete their data, then? That's retarded.

>>182756590
You only need one, dumbass. You bind an account to one FB, and then every time you want to reset you log into that same FB.
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>>182756584
What if A2 sucks?
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>>182756608
Nevermind I figured it out as I posted
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>>182756635
Because making multiple fb accounts is the quickest way to get device banned from FB and lose all your accounts permanently
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>>182756696
Do you not know how to read? You only use one FB account.
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>>182756694
then you blow your load.
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>GLcucks actually believe Scumi is giving us nier
LOL! Orlando will be out any time now too, right? And remember how they didn't nerf Genji Blade? OH RIGHT LOL!
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>>182756768
And? If you already had multiple fb accounts you can literally get device banned for 3.

Some people play more than one game that is fb tied, Anon.
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>>182756839
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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This is the new account that I got from rerolling less than a month ago's best team. This account has 6 5* base units, which is how rare 2b will be during Nier. Only two of those were guaranteed: one from the reroll ingredients process, then one from an event going on right now. This account is already a couple weight classes above the account I spent 100$ on and then discarded.
I have the best of every kind of unit in the game (arguably, there's one unit that has side grades to it and one unit that doesn't slam with the best), and these guys will continue to be dominant for at least another 6 months to a year. Contrast this with the account where I threw money at it and got nothing. You need to listen to anons here and learn the ropes or you *will* have a bad time.
My results were this good because I took a calculated opportunity at the perfect time, you will not do as well as I did, but you can guarantee yourself a 2b at minimum.
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>>182756902
dumb SEAmonkey scumi shill
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>>182756336
Official FFBE GL statement on the matter
>Much anticipated NieR:Automata collaboration has just been announced! 2B, 9S, Adam, 21O and global exclusive units A2 and Eve will join the fray! We have also announced a new event of Ariana Grande and the opening of a new boss battle at Chamber of the Fallen! Details of each event will be posted on a later date.
We're getting everyone.
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>>182756839
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Luneth enhancements?
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>>182756935
will you ever stop jerking yourself off?
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>>182755453
I hate Vaan
he's probably my most hated FF character, I've always hated him
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What are the best female units in FFBE?

And when I say female, I mean mega sluts.
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>>182756935
>I have the best of every kind of unit in the game (arguably, there's one unit that has side grades to it and one unit that doesn't slam with the best)
Being rizzity-real I don't see a top tier finisher in there. But that's the least critical party role, I guess.
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>>182757038
This isn't jerking myself off, this is an attempt to spare an anon the suffering of throwing money into a fire.
You know just as well as I do how this game is, and I needed to establish proofs to my claim or I have no business telling that anon that he needs to learn what everyone is trying to tell him.
Not bragposting, only a means to an end, and I did not intend to offend.
>>182757134
Orlando has sidegrades, and Fina cannot slam with the best.
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>>182757105
Well everyone calls Rikku a mega slut and she's the best female unit in BE. So, yeah.
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>>182756935
I can't believe you were shitposting about someone spending lapis on a 11 roll yesterday when today you admitted you spent $100 back then and got nothing....

the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>182757195
>This isn't jerking myself off

When you repost the same picture every thread to brag about it, it's basically jerking yourself off.
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What's your most commonly used RW?
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>>182757221
Shitposting and trying to warn an innocent prospect are different, I guess?
IDK man, I don't even remember if I even did that so I am just giving it to ya.
Also, I was seriously considering spending 500$ when Cloud drops, so it's kinda obvious to me I got issues.
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What do you budget yourself too monthly when it comes to this game?

I'm thinking about 10 dollars a month
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I got a fresh orlandu account if that anon wants it
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>>182757367
Rikku, Ramza, Onion Knight
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>>182757467
I'm never giving Jewmi any of my momey
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>>182757467
10 dollars doesn't buy anything though.
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>>182757448
dammit 3zekiel, you were also pretending to be a f2p faggot yesterday. Also posted the exact same picture. Now today you reveal you've been a whale all along.

Yes you have issues.
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Okay I just tried to add six people from the OP list and they're either full or don't exist anymore.

Anyone here with room that I can add?
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>>182757467
The only time I'll ever consider spending money on any of these mobage is if DeNA brings over one of those gem-only BSB choice banners.
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>>182752829
eh, she's the first introduced. Many would argue there isn't a "main character" of 6
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>>182757906
me
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>>182752185
Holy blue eyes, FF.
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>>182757791
>>182757914
>implying you're not both just poor and can't afford it

You're fooling nobody
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>>182757982
but Celes isn't the first introduced
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>>182758019
Code?
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>>182757467
Nothing because the base 5* is too insanely low to actually spend money trying to get anything
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>>182758054
did someone say blue-eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZk_ih2WVVY
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>>182758242
What are the drop rates for this game anyway?
I know FEH is 3% for their highest tier unit and Fate is 1.5%
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>>182758242
at least they added a guarantee 5* ticket. Tho you have to spend $200 worth of shit to get one.
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>>182758312
1%
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>>182758312
It's 1% in GL and 3% in BE
And FEH's 3% is misleading as fuck considering how many shitters can be drawn at 5*.
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>>182758312
1% for 5* right now. Tho they confirmed they will upgrade it to 3% later on.
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>>182758383
yikes
yeah I won't be spending money on this game
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>>182758312
1% but JP improved it to 3% later (GL officially has stated they will too, but the ETA is unknowable as GL does not abide JP's release schedule)

However plenty of 4* base units are as good or better than 5* base units, the balance is out of whack.

Also I am fairly certain F/GO had the same 1% rates after playing it for a year.
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In my defense, I feel like some of the things you guys have attributed to me has been other people, because I don't specifically remember being pretend f2p, but I *do* remember shitposting about an 11pull, and that was solely because the current banners are kinda shitty, and will most likely remain so until NieR, which is maybe worth dumping on how most people did for Orlando.
I'd like to argue that since the drop rates for 5* are 1% and free resources are so damn scarce, any banner you want 5* from almost demands you behave as a f2p unless spending 5-600$ in one sitting.
Don't take me too seriously, I can into intelligent planning from time to time but I am reeeeeeally bad at impulse control.
I felt guilty about spending just the one summon ticket on the Lunera banner as-is.
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>>182758148
thats Terra tho
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>>182758437
>It's 1% in GL and 3% in BE
3% in JP, rather.
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>>182758518
whatever
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>>182758536
Terra has green hair tho
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Is this accurate?
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>>182758865
It's immune to critisism, I can tell you that much.
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>>182758865
Which version of II was supposed to be hard? I beat DoS version when I was like 7
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>>182758865
no
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>>182758741
Not in the official art freeeend. That's even a grassy blonde

http://www.xrite.com/hue-test
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>>182758865
I vote XV into good but flawed, since it suffered from Development hell.
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>>182756584
>>182756560
>Still no release date

why
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>>182758971
>I vote XV into good
good joke
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>>182758865
I personally would swap 9 and 7 but i'll agree otherwise
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Zargabaath is now the new meme.
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>>182758943
DoS difficulty was nerfed a lot in both games.
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I'am free..
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>>182759058
So we can save but we have to panic-save, because we don't have any sort of timeline like we tend to get with a lot of the other major releases (see Orlandeau, Tilith, Rikku)
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>>182759305
Where did you roll?
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>>182759305
you're not free until you uninstall
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>>182759472
Greater summon
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>>182759337
Just adding, it also will weed out some of the herd so that not everyone will be at full power (some *will* drop tickets or lapis on impulse).
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>>182759337
>>182759530
Well if it means more time to hoard, I'm fine with that
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>>182759529
So you just finished ch1 damn. Did it have the same golden glow as other cards or a supreme?
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I remember disliking XII but I also remember that I put a shit ton of time into it. I barely remember anything about it. I'm considering getting the remaster.
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>>182754351
Don't ever talk to me like that again.
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>>182759591
I just hope it's over a month rather than as early as next week.
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>>182760021
Just play IZJS, the remaster doesn't do anything significant enough to warrant buying it again.
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Where are we going to get a decent FF mobile game?
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Anyone do the last stage of the story event?

Would I be able to get the esper kill if I summon esper and then use raise?
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>>182759690
Reroll till i got 4 ticket then summoning. Its golden glow
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>>182758865
Shitposting time:

>Good tier: if your favorite FF is one of these then you probably have good taste
IV, VI, IX, XII
>Good with patience tier: it's good if you're willing to put the hours into it
XIV
>Decent tier: if your favorite FF is one of these, your taste is overall good but is questionable in some aspects
V, XI
>okay tier: if your favorite FF is one of these your taste is questionable but not bad
III, VIII, X, XV
>Not great tier: if your favorite FF is one of these your taste is really questionable
VII, XIII
>Justify yourself tier: if your favorite FF is one of these please justify yourself in response to this post, I'd love to hear it
I, II
>Good but different tier: it's good but significantly different from the others
T
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>>182760278
When AAA game companies don't treat mobile gaming as a cashgrab, which won't happen until laws change (see: DLC shenanigans with pretty much every company these days.)
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>>182760278
When phones will be powerful enough
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>>182758865
FFX was destroyer of the franchise, everything after is the result.
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>>182760452
>>not still better than mobage shitposting
Here's your (you), you will get more I think.
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>>182758865
FFVII was destroyer of the franchise, everything after is the result.
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>>182758865
>>182758865
FFV was destroyer of the franchise, everything after is the result
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>>182760673
I will take mobage shitposting to that kind of autistic ranking discussion anytime desu senpai
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>>182758865
FFI was destroyer of the franchise, everything after is the result.
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>>182758865
>final fantasy
>is actually the first game

What did they mean by this?
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>>182757906
what's your code
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>>182759267
>Berserked Greg
Wut, how?
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>>182756584
A2 is CUTE!
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>>182756560
>>182756584
JP BTFO
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>>182761197
271-814-438
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What other mobages do you play besides FF's one /ffg/?
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>>182757906
>>182762081
We need more tomboys
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>>182762081
Something about this image really triggers my eternal nogf feel and really makes me want to kill myself.
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>>182760359
I'm going to wait till they add an event then that takes a literal hour unless you do everything instead of autoing.
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>>182762127
BE
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>>182762249
Best FF tomboy passing by
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>>182762249
I think we need more armpits
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>>182756584
I like their exvius models more than that art next to them.
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So is it possible to get through the story with the default two dudes?
I don't want to roll for anything and I don't want to put any resources into leveling them up
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>no 4 or 5* summon that can hit ice element
>no 5* summon that can hit fire
>no 4* summon that can hit wind
>only 1 summon available capable of hitting dark, and only 1 for holy too, same for water until Ogopogo
>THREE fucking 4* summons that hit lightning, 2 identical in function, but no 5* lightning summon
it's a niche magic type
why the fuck is it fucked over so much in RK?
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>>182762249
>more tomboys
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>>182762643
Oh wait, nevermind, JP also has a 4* ice summon and a 3x holy 5* summon.
Everything else still applies though,
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>>182759267
Dumbass couldn't have kept it private until aigaion or anything. We all knew this, but now it's gonna get patched.
What a faggot.
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>>182762595
What's going on in this image? She put her drink in the bag or something?
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>>182763229
I wish I knew
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>>182762448
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>>182761556
She gets way less cute when she cuts her hair.
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>>182763492
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>>182756560
>>182756584
Inb4 she cuts her hair for her 6*
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>>182755936
good luck m8
i wanted her so bad i managed to pull her in two tickets.
i can only hope i get a tenth as lucky this time.
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>>182763734
Sprites rarely change to that degree. And judging from the sparkly aura around her, that (>>182756560) IS her 6* form, and her 5* would be the same without the sparkles.
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never ever
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>>182762081
>>182762448
>>182763492
>>182763664
I want to start a relationship with Yuffie, impregnate her, then abandon her while she's seven months pregnant with our half-Mexican child.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zq7Oh--xVI
>on top of everything except the ST single hit physical and Ultimate Ultima being succeptible to Runic, the Dispels seem to be scripted at 50%/25%
>and eaten up by Runic still
oi
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>>182757038
This little fox-
Ate a juicy grape,
Splashed some juice onto his face!
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>>182764617
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>>182756935
>The fag that had the shitty Lightning account spent 100 bucks for that one
WEW lad, finished a trial and now think you're king shit? Surely nothing bad will come of this hubris
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>>182764870
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>>182764756
Go to bed 3zekiel
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https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=63879532
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>>182765192
Fox fox fox-
Grape grape grapes,
The hardest standard enemy in Final Fantasy V is the Jackanapes!
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>>182765373
Are they actually fucking him or are just imagining it
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>>182765373
whoops missed a spot.
mods hate boy nipples
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>>182765498
from what i can tell, amelia might be the only one.
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How did Sephiroth do anything after FF7 when Cloud basically killed his soul
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>>182762081
added
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Vaan -Skihari/Breaker
Penelo -BLM/Monk
Ashe -Knight/Bushi
Basch -Archer/Time
Balthier- WHM/MCH
Fran- Uldah/RDM

How does this team sound?
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>>182741283
Can someone explain?
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>>182766164
he continues to exist within the Lifestream.
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>>182766164
"It's lifestream, I ain't gotta explain shit", or in other words "we need an excuse to milk this popular game and character"
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>>182766164
Jenova Cells, son.
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>>182766164
It's Jenova cells taking his form again because she did that through most of FF7.

I mean Kadaj literally drinks what's left of Jenova and then transforms into him.

Almost every encounter you have with "Sephiroth" in FF7 is actually Jenova wearing his form, he is at the crater for a long time and mostly only there in flashbacks.
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>>182758865

15 > 14 > 13 > 12 > 11=13-2 > 10=13-3 > 9 > 8=10-2 > 7 > 6 > 5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1
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>>182766392
Aren't they all Sharlayan?
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How is the FFXV mobage?
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>>182763229
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1399088
60 second campaing
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>>182766164
QUALITY writing
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>>182766319
>Basch
>not knight
Wtf, look at this stat. You can beat the game like that though...
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Slot opened up on the TM squad. What should I slot in next?
>Cecil for a second Excalibur
>Dark Fina/Vanille to finally get some mage stuff rolling
Also post TMR squads
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>>182766918
It's a clone of the generic mobage tower defense thing template they've slapped like 5 different IPs onto at this point, including one with Arnold Schwarzenegger. You've probably gotten ads for one or another of them before.
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>>182766164
Rain summoned him as a vision in Final Fantasy Brave Exvius for Android and iOS
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>>182767173
you dont need edgar's tm

Just get a whale friend's 2B do be your DPS for the robot trial
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>>182766319
How many times do we have to tell people not to make Balthier Machinist.

No, he never uses those stupid pistol holsters, even if you make him one.
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>>182766164
He hates cloud SO MUCH that in the stream of consciousness that is the Lifestream he continues to exist by focusing on that one thought so he comes back to kill him cause he's rly mad

or something like that
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>>182766918
A clone of Game of War or Mobile Strike
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>>182765407
Keep giving us more input for the speech pattern locker, kid.
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>>182766918
Borderline illegal. Pretty much any money you put in it will just all flow to the strongest play on the server and they constantly merge servers so it's impossible to stay on top without spending literally thousands, which you'll lose to someone who spent a couple extra thousand.
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>>182767359
>sephiroth
>hating cloud
They are gay for each other.
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>>182766164
On the way to a smile novella explains.
Basically, Sephiroth has incredible willpower, and while he would have dissolved into the Lifestream like every other dead person, he refused. He smashed his soul into an ultra-dense spiritual ball and managed to not dissolve. However, this pretty much drove him insane, because the only thought that remained in his soul was "I REALLY FUCKING HATE THAT CLOUD GUY".
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>>182767346
But if I have Edgar's TM I could be that 2B

It was almost 70% on its on anyway figured I'd top it off
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>>182767359
How does he even have a stream of consciousness when Cloud hit him so hard his immortal soul blew into a million pieces
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>>182767348
Whats he good as, then?

>>182767171
I've seen Basch as an archer seen ps2. He uses a bow very proficiently in the openning sequence.
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>>182767627
Tremendous strength of will. Remember that Sephiroth was the dude who at the same time
1. manipulated Jenova cells everywhere to do his bidding and fuck with Cloud's head
2. summoned the ultimate black magic Meteor
3. throttled the ultimate white magic Holy
4. hid himself from the Planet's gaze
5. fought a battle to the death with the party
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>>182767518
So? Love and hate realistically are very similar emotions. If they're gay for each other but can never act on those feelings it wouldn't be uncommon for that to manifest as hate, especially since he killed him and never let him say his true feelings.

For evidence in this, look at how mad Vaynefag gets whenever we mention Vayne's proclusion for kid diddling. He'll never get to see Larsa's larsa for himself and that love turns into anger towards us
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>>182766304
Thanks
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Is there an FF with comfier tracks than FF8?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB30RVWeuP8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eU0tRBHnE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMYisFOaz1s
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>>182767798
Yeah he's best as Foebreaker, Archer, Monk or Knight.
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>>182767798
>Whats he good as, then?
Knight, Foebreaker, Shikari/Hunter or White Mage (Mage is better for either Ashe or Penelo though)
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>>182768142
IX.

Like, that's not even a question. It's super obvious. IX's entire schtick is super rustic.
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Need some help here!
I'm doing the Dra al bhed event and am trying to beat the battle where you fight 3 aeons and then the serpent.
Anyways, do you guys know if the aeons are succeptible to these type of gravity attacks?
I don't want to waste materials making this ability for it to do nothing.

Also, do you know if stop would work against them?
I'm trying to do the fight with50~level charactes but I've yet to even get past bahamut.
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>>182768142
FF9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29jLPSAncTQ
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>>182768152
>>182768376
So, Balthier as Knight/Bushi
Ashe as Uldah/RDM
Fran as MCH/whm

I don't really like pairing two mage classes, no reason for it.
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>>182767848
Yeah but that's before he gets killed and immediately afterwards gets the last remnants of his will or whatever chopped into bits and blown into the Lifestream
If getting completely eradicated and basically being shown on-screen to pass into the Lifestream isn't enough to get rid of him then what is
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>>182768917
He pulls a Voldemort thing with Jenova Cells. Its why the planets tries to kill everyone infected with them in AC.
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>>182768632
If this worked, it would mean Instant KO would work on them too.
So no, these never ever work.
Stop is also very unlikely, but it is not a bad spell to have.
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>>182767173
>evasion build
scum

I will be fusing these doubles once they're half done to save lapis
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>>182757367
For bonus battles & the like: Guardian Mog usually. Anything else is just choosing a mutual while I auto battle.

>>182767518
>tfw 95% of doujins turn Cloud into an ultra twinky fuccboi who always takes it up the ass from Seph
Motherfuckers

>>182767848
You know, they never really play up Cloud's willpower too much. I mean, yea its saved for the very important parts of the story, but gotta give the guy a bit more props for the shit he's gone through.

>>182768632
Those attacks are usually not worth it. Also, while Dr. Mog's hints can have some fuck ups here or there, it'll tell you if something is usually weak to an element or susceptible to an ailment. Otherwise, you'll have to look at GameFAQs, reddit, or kongbakpao for enemy data
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>>182768671
FFIX sequel SoL anime when?
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>>182768917
It's not likely you can literally demolish a soul with a sword. All Cloud did was force Sephiroth into actual death, preventing him from trying to linger as a ghost like the Cetra in the forgotten capital.
However Sephiroth was furious enough to retain his ego even when truly dead, though it cost him his sanity and coherence, and he can't interact with the real world anymore without a sufficient quantity of jenova cells.
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>>182768632
Gravity = Instant KO. No boss is gonna be weak to Instant KO.

Also the only status effect you can reasonably assume a boss MIGHT be susceptible to without its info specifically stating it is Interrupt. It used to be common in all of them early on, then they really clamped down on it and stopped completely for a while, and now its touch and go on whether or not its still vulnerable or not.
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>>182768991
How is there even any Jenova
Even if there were bits left after Cloud and gang killed it Holy should've totally wiped it out unless the planet thinks the thing's actually good for it
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>>182769123
>You know, they never really play up Cloud's willpower too much. I mean, yea its saved for the very important parts of the story, but gotta give the guy a bit more props for the shit he's gone through.
In terms of willpower, Cloud is flimsy as all hell. He's a scrawny nerd inside and out. He is tenacious, but this is different from being strong. He is constantly beaten down mentally, he just is bold enough to keep trying.
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>>182769406
It's not like Holy personally tackled everyone infected and purged them. Cloud still has Jenova cells inside him. Jenova is only its cells, it's more like a virus than an entity.
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>>182767173
How do I farm tmr? I'm new to this game.
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>>182767447
Figgity fox and the giggity grapes!
Ate too many and now he's out of shape!
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>>182769406
Holy didn't do more than stop Meteor.
The lifestream did all the shit in the end guided by Aerith's wish, and the lifestream was full of Jenova shit.
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>tfw cant decide whether or not to do a "casual" playthrough of FF8 and miss every secret or break out a no/low level guide
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>>182769406
the Stigma that is killing people in AC is the planet trying to purge the the Jenova cells. Jenova is like a virus in FF7 and its continuities. A lot of people got infected(I think Septhiroth's mini-mes did it) with Jenova cells after ff7.
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>>182769849
There's nothing casual about drawing 99 of each spell.
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>>182769849
My philosophy is that in any game, if there's something I miss despite talking to every NPC I come across and exploring every area, it's not worth worrying about. Worry about that shit if you like it enough to want to replay it, following guides takes you out of games.
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>>182770173
But how many times do you talk to each NPC? Once, twice, three tmes? Do you go back to talk to them again later?
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>>182769117
but you want multiple copies.
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>>182770492
Not him, but you don't need dupe DKS (or even a single DKS), and farming dupe DWs is dumb if you have genji gloves (or get lucky and roll gil later).
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FFV or FFXII: Which is better

http://www.strawpoll.me/13442370
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13442370
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>>182770401
Talk until you get repeat dialogues, I generally don't check back unless it's after a story event takes place within the area. That depends heavily on the game too, like in DQ it's really easy to check back because you have a spell to teleport to each town, but in a game like FF8 you're barred from towns by the story constantly.
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>>182770698
you do if you want some damage. dupe dws matter because you never know. you only need 3 though in any case.
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Hey, guy who yesterday recommended to somebody else that Rikku equip breakdance and whatever breakdown between ATK and MAG you want

I coopted that strat on my dancer

and you are a pretty cool guy
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>>182770865
You can replace ATK break dance with Steal Power you know. She also has Mug Bloodlust. She can do a lot of things aside from dancing, too. So maybe have a dedicated support with 2 breakdowns and have Rikku do Multibreak -> other Ability -> other Ability -> Multibreak or something. She's quite fast and you could for example use Powerchain/Quick Hit if none of the Thief/Machinist/Sharpshooter stuff is preferrable.
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>>182771106
It's not Rikku
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>>182769117
>fusing doubles of zidane
???
?????
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>doing second to last level of story event
>do all of the story missions
>last cutscene ends
>app crashes
>continues to crash each time

Never fails. Thanks Gumi, I sure do love wasting 90 NRG.
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>>182770492
I already have DW
>>182770698
DKS over blade mastery for units who don't use a katana
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>>182771183
Well that's just sad.

Is it Gachacat? Gachacat can do some white magey stuff.
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>>182769117
I actually don't even technically need the full evasion build for any content I just like the idea of being able to meme with it with Xon

I barely touch arena either so the fact that people might get trolled against my low point team is just icing on the cake
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>>182771298
>brought fire and wind damage
>didnt count
Fuck you too gumi
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>>182769640
Hey retard your meme doesn't work because we all have those units. We told you to reroll for them. We just intelligently saved lapis instead of throwing $100 dollars literally into the garbage before rerolling like a cuck
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>>182771409
Who's Gachacat? Ysh?
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>>182771792
The only cat riding a slot machine in the game.
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guys....who the fuck is marie? should i include her in my god squad?
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>>182771947
Oh yeah it's Cait Sith
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>>182770809
That's what I'm saying though.
I only have 1 DW, but 3 sources of DW. He could roll gil one day and feel like a jackass.
And BM is preferred to DKS in 99% of cases, so you usually don't need more than one ever, even with two chainers and a finisher
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>>182771994
She's the green mage. Are you against elemental damage? Then yes. If not, no she's useless
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>>182772367
>He could roll Gil one day and feel like a jackass

Protip: you never have enough dual wields. Everybody benefits from then
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>>182772367
I only have 1 source.
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A+ Titan room up. Bringing OK and Eiko. Preferably a physical elemental team
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>>182771564
Here's a story all about a fox,
The fox kept his grapes in a big old box!
He ate too much and hurt his head,
"No more grapes for me!" he said!
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>>182772473
3 is really the upper bound of practicality. Speaking as someone with 2 DW and 2 Genji Gloves.
I rarely use more than two on a team.
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>>182772367
I don't need blade mastery. DKS lets me keep brotherhood and GS mastery on
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>>182772801
I could switch out Zack or CS for Cloud w/ USB, or we could focus on another element if you'd prefer
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>>182772826
>Fox
>Eating the grapes
Not very bright, are you? Also grapes cost about 2$, not 100 cuck
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>>182772801
If OK and other Tyro are fine with using proshellga, I'll start off with Tyro USB then
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>>182756935
goddamn 3zekiel I thought you were a cool guy but now I see you're just another bragposter. you were supposed to destroy the shitposters, not join them.
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>>182773584
Does Astra work with the Instant KO?
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>>182773248
If you need two DKS, you need one BM at least since LSM is limited to 1.
And two DKS is only usually for the kind of people with two Tidii.

You're pretty safe fusing leons.
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Not sure what happened there
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Is Doublehand any good in FFBE?

I know the meme is Genji or dual wield but I don't have that
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>>182767173
Working on a 2nd Blade Mastery for if we get the same Luneth enhancements as JP. I pulled a 2nd Aileen yesterday so I'm going to start cranking another Artisan out and switching the TMR squad over to Ruggles for two hammers.
>>
It's up again
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>>182773924
It doesn't stack in global, so unless you have Olive it's not very useful
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>>182773962
2 hammers? Why? 2 Artisan and Hammer are more than enough
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>>182773749
Yeah that's why I said I was fusing them, plus I have another two Leon and a Zidane. Once they're fused I'm going to add some Chizuru to the TM team while my Freyvia gets to 100%. So I end up with 1 of each in the same amount of time. I have it all planned.
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>>182773707
I've not seen a straight answer, so I can't say myself unless I go fishing around into resources. I'm going with it for the other shit it can hit with at the start, and for the HP stock as backup healing. Affliction Break will try to do what it can for reducing the KO chance. RNG shit can still happen though, unfortunately
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>>182773962
you realize one elemental weapon adds the element buff to both of them
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>>182773962
What do you need the hammers for?
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>>182773293
The fox went down to buy some grapes,
Didn't have the money so instead he got crepes!
The crepes themselves were made of grape,
He got it all on videotape!
>>
FUCK
>>
I lagged like crazy and eventually DC-d.
Hope you all got the clear though.
>>
Looks like we're having some connection issues
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Wow, well that drop sucked
>>
Can anyone other than me host it? My connection's very shitty atm
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>>182775106
Nah we were knocked out shortly thereafter

what was weird was I wasn't really having bad lag until after you dropped
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>>182775112
If we start up again, I'll probably chill on the stamp spam. Sometimes that makes the differences for some anons with connection stuff going on

>>182775227
I'll try
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Warder's has haste right? Maybe I can go Alphi instead of OK for increasing the chain
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>>182775505
Yes
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>>182775505
Isn't leaving MBD a bit too risky though?
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>>182775669
Zidane's burst command has power breakdown, so Cait Sith could swap over to HFS if that's possible
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>>182775768
Had no idea, sorry about that. Switching now
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>>182740652
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>>182774541
Because I like Dwarves and Ruggle's going to dual wield god damn hammers.
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Do you believe the Squall-is-dead theory? Or does VIII just have shit for writing?
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>>182776362
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>>182776362
>do you think FF8 has abysmal, pointless, nonsensical fan fiction writing or just shitty writing?
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>>182776362
I don't believe it, and I believe that if it were true, the game would have FAR worse writing than it already has. "It's all a dream" endings are absolutely fucking drivel.
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That was pretty damn cool
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>>182776362
I don't necessarily believe it, but I think there's enough evidence that a claim can be made for it.

Though I think people saying 'b-but that makes everything just a dream and it doesn't matter!' don't understand how to either think critically or analyze a story. FF7 was all about someone completely broken pretending to be someone they're not and FF8 in turn is all about memories and how they matter. I would imagine people who played nu-Prey might be similarly retarded since they don't understand the subtext.
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Well we sure kicked that thing's ass.

I kinda wanna do other elements but I don't really have the relics for it. I could do Vanille and TGC OSB and we could try a Holy team sometime.
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>>182776362
>>182776786
Source in the theory itself? First I've heard of it
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Titan U+ please?
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>>182777071
You better make an exception here for Kirby games. Specifically Superstar.
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I was skeptical about Chains, but they are damn fun.

>>182777134
I have an insane Holy collection, so I'm down.
Can also do almost all other elements except for Water.
>>
should I use my trust moogles on Fohlen's helmet and rikku's pouch?
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>>182777182
Was the room already filled?
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>>182777182
Sure, but I'm gonna quit before we finish.
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>>182777116
This. The actual events of the plot are irrelevant compared to the themes and subtext.

Even if it WERE all a dream, that really wouldn't change anything.
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>>182777292
Also
>Prey
>Eternal Sonata
>To The Moon
>Link's Awakening
>Silent Hill Shattered Memories
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>>182777658
I don't think To The Moon is as clear cut as that.
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>>182777360
I'm pretty boned for poison, earth, and maybe ice as far as elements go.
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>>182777292
>comparing scenic dreamscape mechanics-based video games to narrative-driven video games
Kirby games aren't anything. They're just colorful worlds with lore-like flavor thrown in here and there.

>>182777116
The "evidence" is apophenia. It's just an internet fan theory that adds nothing to the game but makes pot-heads go "woaaaaaaaah." Because if, indeed, it doesn't matter then it wouldn't exist. That's like story-telling 101.
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>>182777717
The entire game takes place within what is essentially a dying man's last dream and it's about figuring out what would give him peace. Plus the theme of 'is it better to die living a lie' vs 'dying unhappy but knowing the truth' wrapped up in the ending.
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>>182777721
Poison doesn't count as an element
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>>182778030
DeNA, please
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>>182778030
Poison more often counts as an element than Wind does for things that refer to elements.
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>>182778030
>grants major resistance to Poison (status)
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>>182778006
No.
It really isn't as clear cut as that. Nor is it entirely contained within, nor is the story really about HIM.
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>>182778283
>>182778006
sounds like some pretentious cuck game tbqh
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Does Ramza not have Full Break anymore? I missed if was used or not
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>>182777919
Fuck off, potheads are just enjoying RPGs, not buying into theorycraft bullshit on the worst final fantasy game. We just call the game out as being fucking retarded and move on
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>tfw you realize you play too much and notice that noctis and tidus have the same sprite idle animation
based gumi
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>>182778283
I'm not saying it's clear cut since there's a lot to the themes but that it definitely fits 'it was all a dream' thing to a tee.

And yes it's not all about him, it's about his wife and the breakdown of communication.
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>>182778147
>>182778147
Reminder that the ONLY poison Imperil in the entire game is literally no longer attainable and never will be again
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>>182778489
It was used at least once.
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>>182778723
Edgar's SSB? How is that unobtainable?
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>>182778723
I'm more mad about missing out on the sick unique sprite of the chainsaw than the SB itself.
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>>182778723
Not to mention poison SBs are far and few between and many of them are awful. Command 1 on Thancreds BSB 2 has the same multiplier as ATTACK.

It does have the only AE OSB though. Which is kind of dumb, since for example Rydia's OSB was primed to be AE and they just didn't do it.
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>>182767872
I do not want such disgusting things, and do not imply that the True Hero would want such things either.
Do not project your sick desires on to others.
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>>182778723
>is literally no longer available
except it's still available on lucky draws and you can get any relic as an off-banner pull or from the free daily draws
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Man, places like the Ogir-Yensa Sandsea are exactly why people didn't like Vanilla FFXII. Good lord this place drags on without the fast-forward feature.
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>>182767872
It's "Vayneposter."
Celesfag. Terranon. Vayneposter.
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>>182779054
so a 0.01% chance and a 0.0000001% chance
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>>182779147
You mean Vaynefraud.
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I've only played FFVIII once and I think the Squall is dead theory is pretty silly, but the whole thing does pique my curiostiy about one thing: Why does Squall getting impaled through the chest by Edea just get brushed off? Among other, more complained about plotholes, that one in particular always did kinda bug me. Did they justify it in game somewhere and I just missed it?
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>>182779171
so not literally no longer available you fucking retard
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>>182779113
I played translation patched IZJS and it still drags on, especially because the games "combat" system and gameplay is you having the job of walking the characters from where they need to automatically do things without your control to the next place where they have to automatically do things without your control, while you can only vaguely program their actions, and somehow they thought restricting your ability to effectively program them by delaying your access to gambit slots and more complex or accurate gambits to put in them was "gameplay" and not tedium.
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>>182779291
Squall appears on Dissidia, so he's obviously alive.
Stop trying to make the story more complicated than it already is by trying to force your conspiracies into it.
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>>182779293
technically available, functionally and realistically unavailable.
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>>182779416
so not literally unavailable
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>>182778925
I have it and can confirm it fits Lightning oddly well. I don't like her much but she makes a great crazy chainsaw serial killer stand-in.

Also I love how Edgar is a hero but all his SBs look like a psychotic mass murderer or a bioterrorist.
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>>182777658
I said endings, if the story specifies itself as taking place within dreams as many of those do, it's totally fine.
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>>182779537
>I have it
I'm jelly

I want a poison team
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>>182778916
>SSB
Anon... his SSB is enPoison. The imperil poison is on a regular soul break, which lucky draws now no longer include.

>>182779054
Off banner pulls no longer exist. The only chance of getting it is on the daily free draw (LOL). That draw has something like a .003 chance of being a 5 star relic at all, now cross multiply that with the hundreds of potential 5 star relics that could come from that. It is no longer available.
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Anyone remember playing FF XII Revenant Wings?
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>>182779291
I'm willing to bet they literally forgot about it. Squall mentions being confused that he has no wound and that's all that's ever said about it.
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>>182779656
It's the only poison thing and the only thing for Edgar I have.
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>>182779593
Prey, Link's Awakening and Silent Hill then.
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>>182779692
>Off banner pulls no longer exist.
Except they do
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>>182779692
Edgar has two SSBs
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>>182779391
??????
What the fuck are you talking about my man? We've discussed the orphanage bullshit time and time again but we never talk about the ice spear BS. I'm just wondering if there's an actual explanation for it or if I can just chalk it up to more terrible writing

Stop getting so fucking defensive
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>>182779692
https://ffrkstrategy.gamematome.jp/game/951/wiki/Soul%20Break%20List_Chainsaw(Edgar)
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>>182779814
>>
Hey guys watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GToQQ23FjfQ
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>>182779789
>Except they do
No, they don't. We see hundreds of relic draw images in these threads and not a single off banner relic in them. They existed at the advent of G5 and now have been phased out.

>>182779814
Edgar has two SBs, an SSB, BSB, and OSB. Imperil poison is the SB.

>>182779537
>>182778975
man I want that OSB. Nothing like my man edgar gassing everyone to death, based af
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>>182779702
I remember emulating it as a high schooler and having a hard as shit time, then I dropped it
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>>182780050
No you turbonigger, they do. Literally 5 seconds of Google would save you from looking like a retard faggot.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/6lqjqr/thanks_for_the_off_banner_kick_in_the_dick/
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>>182780050
The BSB is the EnPoison.
The SSB is the imperil.

I have the BSB.
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>>182779934
>>182779910
https://ffrkstrategy.gamematome.jp/game/951/wiki/Equipment_Rarity%205_Chainsaw%20%28VI%29

maybe i'm just being trolled
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>>182779746
I haven't played Prey or Link's Awakening, but I think Shattered Memories' presentation and juxtaposition with therapy scenes is more than enough to tell you that there's something fishy going on. The twist there really is more about who is doing therapy, not that the game isn't taking place in reality.
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>>182780050
they actually do still exist, they're just way less common than they were.

Still you're mostly right, to pretend that it's still available is just being pedantic. It's available... except nobody on Earth is ever going to pull it again!
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>>182780134
>google
You should try going back, anon.
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Berserk ninja seem pretty OP in FFV. I don't even have to play the game anymore.
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Edgar's SSB is the Imperil Poison. His BSB gives EnPoison. His two Uniques do other shit.
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>>182780235
Fine let me fucking load up RK and check my actual copy of the item.
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>>182780050
>No, they don't. We see hundreds of relic draw images in these threads and not a single off banner relic in them
We don't get the "luck" that ledditors or GameFAQs does with that shit, so that's why that situation barely pops up in the general
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>>182762081
Bump, really need more friends.
I'm getting so many quest where I have no friends to pick for support. I assume friends have to be online to use em?
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>>182779147
This.
Ever since he got vayne's LMR, he has re-earned his original title of Vayneposter.
There was a period of like, 4 months following the fraud situation where nobody called him anything but Vaynefag. But no longer. He's a good friend.
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>>182779379
I'm kind of fine with the semi-automated, reactionary combat in FFXII because most random battles in FF games are usually mindless stomps anyway. I think the boss fights and hunts kind of make up for its usually mindless nature and force you to strategize a bit more. My problem with dungeons like the Sandsea is that they're too big for their own good. FFXII isn't like Xenoblade or something, where you have tons of fast travel points and side quests involving searching nooks and crannies of every gigantic locale you trek across.
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>>182780002
still doesn't top his burst animation :^)
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>>182780386
I don't know if you know this, but Google actually does display Reddit pages.
>le go back XD
isn't going to save you from the fact that you were wrong on every single point in your post.
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>>182780235
Here you go
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>>182780472
If only his damn Holy Dragoon outfit didn't ruin the burst animation
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>>182780450
My problem with it even during bossfights is that the game has ridiculously few abilities and like a solid half of them are stupid numerology gimmicks useless for anything but comedy, gimmicks or speedruns and they basically took a lot of basic FF classes, removed absolutely anything fun and unique about them, and then gave them a different name. Bushi because they do none of what Samurai does, Uhlan because they sure can't Jump or do Dragon Breaths or Dragon magics., etc.

It's like playing a bunch of generics and literally half of the magic is fucking buffs while the other half is just different elemental and tier versions of "do damage."
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How I can improve my mage team?

Minfilia: only USB
Desch: BSB and Imperil SSB
Krile: sheepsong SSB
Raines: BSB
Yuna: BSB, USB and HP stock SSB

In bench

Papalymo lv 80 with Ley Lines
Vivi lv50 with BSB2
Y'shtola lv 80 with BSB
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>>182780621
The video on the website also shows the SSB aura rather than the unique SB one while he's casting it.
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>>182780629
If only being a Holy Dragoon would entitle him to some fucking Knight skills, or they coulda made him a seperate character like Pecil and gave that some.
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>>182780059
Yeah that shit was hard I quit at the final boss
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>>182780890
if only being a Holy Dragoon gave me his fucking BSB
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>>182780262
The original silent hill also did the "dead all along" spiel, and it was pretty much the best ending (albeit nonacnon).

Also, didn't XI pull something like that too?
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>>182780779
Drop Krile, replace with Ley Lines, this should be obvious.

Possibly drop Yuna becuase you already have 3 magic buffs and Yshtola likely has more healing power.

Level up fucking Vivi and put him in over Desch if its not Lightning weak.
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>>182780621
>>182780406
Cool. So it's available on VI lucky draws which are... when exactly? From a little bit of research it doesn't seem like VI is in the next few DU batches.
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>>182780779
Maybe give Minfilia Fullbreak, and give Mental breakdown to Raines instead of Dire Heal
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It took a lot of Mote to get the awakening items but yay first 6 star
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>>182780808
Wanna know a secret? Make the samurai skill Darkmoon and use it. Watch its animation.
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>>182781165
charge your phone
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>see all these "yay my first 6 star" posts and they are all dps
>my first and only 6 star is rikku
did I fuck up?
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One of these days
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>>182780512
Good work, you've proven that you can pull off banner SB relics and that Edgar's imperil poison is an SSB

However, these two facts combine to make it so that you're never going to pull a chainsaw as an off-banner relic.
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>>182781061
6 is pretty much gonna be over if they add any more dungeons I think.

>>182780621
By the way, the Chainsaw itself has small chance to Insta KO.

From having sometimes had Freya's BSB spear which has chance to Stop equipped when doing them I can tell you that shit like that is fucking GOLDEN to use on the trash waves before the boss during Torment Dungeons.
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>>182780779
Its leaning towards mixed team rather than a full-on mage party, to be honest. If Minfilia is just going to break & keep building meter, maybe she should just stick to the back row? Replace lifesiphon with wrath in that case.
For the times where you cannot use physical attacks, do you have any sort of dancer or a mage who has support debuffs on soul breaks or something?
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>>182781345
If you just raised her up first, not that's actually a smart thing to do. If she's your first 6 star AND you have no 6 star capable damage dealers, then yeah, you fucked up
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>>182781414
It is not literally impossible to do so.
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>669 pulls and no 2B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bA5_pZy6E4

this is going to be one of you in a month or two
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>>182781345
Chainer>bards>WoL>Finishers>Supports
Is the general rule I would use.
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>>182781651
Show me an off-banner SSB pull, then. I did your google search and every dumb cuck redditor that got screwed got a unique SB relic. Doesn't seem like it can go higher than unique as an off-banner, making it impossible outside of a lucky draw.
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>>182781656
I fucking hate the sound effects of this game.
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>>182781028

>Drop Krile, replace with Ley Lines, this should be obvious.

Ok

>Level up fucking Vivi and put him in over Desch if its not Lightning weak.

Why? Vivi only have access to Black magic and desch have access to wrath

>>182781506

>Its leaning towards mixed team rather than a full-on mage party, to be honest. If Minfilia is just going to break & keep building meter, maybe she should just stick to the back row? Replace lifesiphon with wrath in that case.

Time to build a third wrath

>For the times where you cannot use physical attacks, do you have any sort of dancer or a mage who has support debuffs on soul breaks or something?

My only dancer right now is rikku(lv1) with her BSB
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>>182781853
>off-banner pulls aren't a thing
>w-well maybe they're a t-thing but only for uniques!!!
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>>182782210
>gay ass uguu~ speech
Fuck off with your shitposting. I said show me the evidence and you realize it's true and resort to memes. Chainsaw is literally unattainable. Maybe not EVER again if he's featured on a lucky, but you cannot get that relic outside of that one possible future occurrence.

PS. under a one in ten million chance is the same as unattainable
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>>182782584
You have more than a one in ten million chance to get Chainsaw on a LD with VI relics or poison relics or whatever the fuck.
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>>182782584
>under a one in ten million chance is the same as unattainable
Not him but it's literally not.
Never underestimate luckfags
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>>182782698
I said that in my post, anon. But those things don't exist as of now so we cannot count them. You'll have like a 1% chance to grab one in ??? months whenever we get a VI lucky

>>182782740
that person would be better off playing the lottery than mobage at that point
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>>182779702
I do
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>>182782994
It's almost as if any relic is hard to pull when it isn't featured on a banner or LD. Hmm...
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>>182780890
Dark Cecil and P. Cecil retconned to one unit with all their SBs and skills together when?
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I always forget Gilgamesh turns into a nigger for seemingly no reason after he gets thrown into the rift
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>>182781719
>>182781509
took a while but here's what I got
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So in FFV, if I want to set up a blue mage, I just level up blue mage until I get the learning ability and then swap to something else until I actually learn something? I don't actually have to be a blue mage to be able to learn right?
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>>182784104
Nah you just need to swap in the Learning ability.
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>>182784104
That is correct, but you have to equip learning.

Although you'd want to be Blue Mage anyway because they're awesome.
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>>182752185
Well, I finished VI. Again.

Was pretty fun, desu. Just need to get the rest of these dumb Steam achievements (which includes superbosses and some 128 round fight?) and I'll be done.
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>>182784104
>>182784215
At that point you're better off BEING a blue mage and then equipping other abilities, though.

Aside from azulmagia, odds are good you have the chance to prepare.
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>>182784104
>>182784238
>>182784382
>Blue Mage appreciation

I like you guys.
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>>182784104
Blue Mage isnt good in V.
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>>182783858
i would not keep that.
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>>182784640
It's not the best version of it, but it's not outright terrible.

It's a shame you don't get Mighty Guard until the very end, though.
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>>182784640
*Goblin Punches you*
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>>182784714
Damn. Part of me knows youre right but this is two months of play I'll probably quit if I have to start over
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>>182784903
>2 month
What the fuck? I've been playing for 4 days and I am already rank 21
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Jesus christ chapter 3 part 2 of mobius is intense.
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>>182784903
get that Dark Fina and ashe up and hope you get lucky with some draws soon. You'll have to play with mages who aren't that great. adviseable would be rerolling but it seems like youre pretty casual with this
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>>182784962
I'm using yshtola as my healer and got the other units from the titan raid, that was like a month and a half ago atleast. I just play a couple times a day in my free time, mainly to get the daily lapis and half roll when I can
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>Force Stealer x2
>Curtana
>Omnirod x2
>Flame Staff
>Green Megaphone
>Romandan Pistol
>Healer's Circlet
>Iron Musketeer's Cuirass
>Ironworks Healing Robe x2
Should I roll the XIV banner? Inb4 no Stoneskin.
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>>182784973
That's where you start to fight swarms of enemies, right?
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So is Lunera good or not? Some guy was shitposting so hard the other day it clouded my judgement on her versus Ramza and all. She have any use?
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>start playing ff record keeper
>blitz through tutorial
>don't remember half the things


I remember there was a place where you could change class/jobs or something, but i forgot where it was
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>>182785553
>listening to fuccbois on the internet
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>>182785553
Right now she's a great source of MP and eases the burden of your healer, but her buff is not notable. You'll struggle to find a place to put her, though. She's not worth the party slot like a full power bard is.
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>>182785553

>So is Lunera good or not?

Maybe, but if you have Ramza already then you're probably better off saving.

If anything, this feels like a trap banner to get players to pull before they drop the Nier one.
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>>182785475
The whole Chaos attack bit where every blank goes full suicidal.
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>>182781853
https://imgur.com/SWSyshY
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>he's guaranteed to kill you, kupo!
>Target score: Don't get killed
yeah fuck this game, fucking jewgle
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>>182785796
Oh, well spoiler alert
WoL doesn't die.
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>>182785553
She's OK. She can chain and can act as a great MP battery with her song. Right now I don't think she's worth a slot in your team if you're running a tank/support/healer/2x chainer/finisher comp. Her enhanced song is slightly worse than Ramza and Roy's, but you can't really complain if you don't have either of those two.
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>>182785553
She saves turns for your buffer, healer, and mana battery at the same time.
40% buff is enough to save WoL from embolden to give him more turns, and it gives you focus too which is pretty lacking on most teams.
You were gonna slot something in to buff SPR anyway, may as well make it a unit that trivializes MP cost.

She also heals a little, which means Tilith has more freedom to use her Raise move or her Omniveil or her Esunaga or anything on certain turns.
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>>182785713
>>182785763
Kinda wish her song was on par with Ramza. I got her on a daily ticket and not sure how to feel about this
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>>182785475
Speaking of, Chapter 5 tournament is my wall.
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>>182786095
If you revive someone quickly after they die you don't lose medals
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>>182785421
Fuck it I'm rolling. Atleast I can't pull Black Keys.
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>>182785553
I pulled her. She restores a truckload of MP. I'm a few quartz away from trying it with an extra man-eater materia, but barely geared for SPR she's healing 80+ MP a turn. If you run mages it'd be pretty fun to go hog wild with spells, but for all current content it's hilariously overkill.

Compared to Ramza, she's more functional than him for now, but when enhancements drop they're pretty much equal

>>182786234
>She also heals a little, which means Tilith has more freedom to use her Raise move or her Omniveil or her Esunaga or anything on certain turns
The heal is really shitty. Not gonna replace healing for the turn unless it was a free turn anyway. If you're running Tilith, it pretty much just enables her to use the HP+MP recovery move, which is a moot point anyway because Lunera is turbocharging you full of MP. If you're running Refia/Y'shtola though it would probably free up one part of dualcast letting you raise or esuna or something
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>>182786646
>but when enhancements drop they're pretty much equal

But Ramza buffs for 100%
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>>182786095
>RW eiko USB
wow so tough
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>>182786095
Death doesn't have the best hit rate, you know
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>>182786705
enhancements for both. Lunera goes to 90% and Ramza goes to 100%. Her HP+MP restore is a little higher. pretty much equal.
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>>182786249
Farm mandragoras or at least the one for the class you're using and put it(maxed out) in your deck. Then try it again.

BTW what are the dual job you're using in ch5?
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>>182786716
>last stand prevents instant ko
based retard
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>>182786790
I think it's safe to say Ramza will get enhanced before Lunera.
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>>182786982
It's not really safe to say anything with Gumi. We're getting enhancements at a hilariously slow rate. Who knows when they plan on dropping Ramza's? It's not worth arguing semantics over because Lunera will get them too. Trying to say "oh well for this period from ??? to ??? ramza will be better" doesn't really add much. Both will get them eventually. If you have one, you don't need the other.
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>>182786646
It's enough HP to count on certain turns, is the point, especially when combined with tilith's fixed number healing moves that do other things, or even Al-bhed potion for when tilith's really needs to do shit.
It's not a replacement for tilith every turn, just a compliment to help her in certain situations. And a backup in times of crisis.

Your other options for turn 1 SPR buffs are fucking Cecil, Ashe, and Y'shtola. Otherwise you need to wait for Rikku's LB.
Lunera at least out classes these units for most content, aka her only competition.
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>>182787287
There's always the chance they enhance them differently from JP too. They've done it before.
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>>182786790
It's not you don't heal enough to not need a dedicated healer and ramza already overheals your mana 10% stats are better.
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>>182787414
Your dedicated healer isn't always alive. You need to prepare for bad situations just as much as good ones, and sometimes your healer is genuinely busy.
In the end, they're roughly equivalent for long term survivability. Ramza eeks out just slightly higher, but Roy eeks out above even him for long fights.
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>>182785421
>>182786316
>Cid Super
>Minfilia Super
>Third fucking Ironworks Healing Robe
Why is it so hard to pull a SSB guys?
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>>182787414
>ramza already overheals your mana 10% stats are better.
The 10% applies to base stats, anon. It's a really negligible difference.
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>>182787685
your bard can't do shit. Roy is worse because he dies than you restart his songs.

>>182787869
It really isn't.
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>>182787869
>an extra 10-17 to all stats is negligible

Not really. Especially for the offensive stats, it's important.
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>>182787752
I'm like 5% considering pulling if only for a complete Yda

but I never use Yda so it'd be a waste
>>
Toy story collaboration in BE when?
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>>182787982
>>182788007
It really is. If you have a bard, you don't need to pull for another. They're all base 5 and not worth chasing when you have something that does the exact same thing with a teeny variation
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11 Titan runs
have not seen a single mote since my first clear with /ffg/ last sunday
sinking into despair
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>>182788336
What motes does he drop
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>>182788535
4* Spirit motes
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>>182786390
Wow, such a great difference in rank from such little difference in score.
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>>182780418
Friend request sent, hopefully my Ashe will prove useful in grinding the XII event.
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>>182786798
Devout/Viking, covers all elements. Next time I'm able I'll take a pic of my deck setup.
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>>182786798
Oh yeah, that dual jobs thing is coming up soon for me.
And I still don't have a second class.
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>>182788007
Offensive stats are NEVER important.
The only thing they do us help make raids go faster, even 20 more ATK isn't doing much in that department.
It's why the finisher meme is so hilarious. You aren't going to be using one for 90% of trials.

Ramza is still better, but not noticeably so.
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>>182789021
Okay, let me just take 10% from all your units' base stats...
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>>182786119
>RKmanlets.png
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>>182786705
>>182786646
Does...does this mean if I get Lunera my lifelong quest for Ramza songs is over? I don't mind the difference between 90% and 100%. Or is Ramza still marginally superior?
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>tfw you get to the point in elite realms dungeon where a 9999 hit doesn't kill a common mook
oh no
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>>182789890
Ramza's a tiny bit better but any bard is better than no bard, Lunera's more than good enough. It's pretty likely that Ramza's enhancements will come out way sooner than Lunera's though.
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>>182789286
>can't into math
If you take 10% off your base stats, your final SPR will drop from 500 to 450.

You take 10% off of the additive percent bonus that applies to your base stats your SPR drops from 500 to 487.
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>>182789286
Not the same thing, since those are modified by +% passives while in battle buffs aren't.
It's a trivial difference, and not one you'd ever notice in combat.

If I swapped the sprites around, you would never know it.
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>>182790017
>tfw you have 2 R3 summons that do 9999x2 with the restore 1 summon use RM
feels good
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>>182790017
>elite dungeons will be 200+ difficulty eventually
welp
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>>182790017
It makes it a little easier to build your SB bars before the boss, though. The only problem is that it makes it harder to bring a shit realm team along unless you have a ton of SB variety.
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>>182790296
>actually inputting commands when fighting mooks
l-lol?
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>>182789890
The only reason to chase ramza at that point would be to be a non-donut purist.
She's also a bird in hand in the sense that she's useful right now, while it's entirely possible neither will get fully buffed.
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>>182790387
Highest difficulty I can find on the jp wiki is 196 on Orphan's Cradle 2 for XIII.
>tfw a realm dungeon is harder than U++
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>>182790407
>trash slaps your ass with a 3k spell because it's still alive because you didn't oneshot them and you didn't cast shellga
:thinking:
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>>182790514
>She
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>>182790683
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16K1Zryyxrh7vdKVF1f7eRrUAOC5wuzvC3q2gFLch6LQ/edit#gid=1319409797

Dungeon updates 39 and 40 in JP have 200+
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Best way to level up units? I want to take on the story trials, just have laswells left but three 3 units only 2 maxed isnt cutting it
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>>182791920
Cactuars, or if you're desperate and have a lot of time, explorations
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I had to wait like 2 full minutes doing nothing for him to finally switch weaknesses.
I really don't like how RK handles this fight
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They better have Gil Snappers next weekend, I've blown all my money leveling units and doing expeditions since the last one
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>>182791231
>4* motes from the elites
Holy shit.
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don't care about 4* motes

where the 5* motes at
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>>182790970
???
there's literally a story mission right now about lunera and her husband bran
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Fuck 5* motes
Give me 6* motes
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>>182790817
>having to pay attention while running realm dungeons
that's the whole issue that's upsetting ya dingus
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>>182792823
Gays can marry you know
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>>182792910
>Doesn't get enough of that having to run 30 stages or more on autopilot each weekly event
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>>182792823
Ah my bad, i thought you referred to Ramza as "she".
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>>182793021
I know my mom married another woman
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Help

In FF12 the Shikari class has 4 quickening nodes but I can only learn 3.

And they all have a set of weapons licenses behind them.

Meaning I'm locked out of a weapon set no matter which selection I pick.

So what one isn't worth it?
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>>182793565
I never understood the point of lesbianism. They can't even have sex, it's all just foreplay.
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>>182793565
I didn't ask for this boner.
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New FFBE player, are any of the fft units besides Orlandu good?
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>>182793843
No
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>>182793784
Lol no
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>>182793843
Ramza (eventually), Agrias (eventually)
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>>182793673
Nah don't tell us which weapon sets or anything
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>>182793843
Ramza
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>>182793843
>What's better than Orlandu?
two orlandu
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>>182793673
Definitely get the Yagyu Darkblade & Mesa license as those are the ultimate ninja swords. Then it sort of depends on what secondary job you pick as it's quickenings might unlock something handy. The Iga blade node is probably worth getting as it's a very good weapon for a long time that you can get from Zertinan Caverns (not sure how to get it via cheese method, but it's the next upgrde for a while after Gladius I believe, around Miriam/Bur Omisace). The other ninja sword node with four of the weapons might also be worth it as I think some of them are elemental-based.
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>>182793925
"Lol no" what? They literally can't have sex because no dick.
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tfw maxed out FP amount
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>>182789021
>Offensive stats are NEVER important.
I don't even know where to start with this post, there are so many counterexamples.

I guess Aigion himself is the easiest example. Enjoy taking forever doing it the slow way instead of going for main body first.

Siren 3* works too. With a decent setup you can just OTKO it.

How about Aranea event trial? Her over boost gets stronger over time, and she already hits hard as fuck even at the start of the fight. It's much easier to just tank and chip at her for a while while you build esper/LBs and then burst her to dead. In my run my WoL died and I pretty much had to end the fight in the round afterwards or I would have lost.

Or skipping Gilgamesh's bullshit entirely by chipping him to a bit over 80% and then bursting him to dead.

We can apply that one as a general principle too - having high enough offense gives you the option of outright skipping parts of fights. Or all of fights, if you're geared enough to OTKO.

How about king mog? Having a single strong unit carry a party of bonus units is the best way to get the most currency out of your energy, and the easiest and fastest way to do that is to just blow everything away in 1-2 turns.

>The only thing they do us help make raids go faster
Pretty fucking important given how often you will be running that raid. Being able to just OTKO and move on with your life saves you a lot of time.

And no, I'm not arguing Ramza is significantly better than Lunera. Get a singer and you're good. But the assertion that offensive stats are never important is ridiculous.
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>>182793021
It's not gay if it's an elf
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>>182794084
>oral sex isn't sex
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>>182794084
Surely in the year of your lord two thousand and seventeen, there is no object in existence that can allow a woman to temporarily have a dick with which to fuck their lesbian wife, no sir
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>>182794112
Time to get dragon killer, stone killer, and aquan killer
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Iggy!
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>>182794115
18 more ATK is not going to enable you to do any of those things, dingus.

And ALL of those things are a convenience at best.
None of them benefit survivability in the slightest, and none of them preclude you from clearing content.
Offense just makes things die faster, it's on the backburner to defense.
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>>182794235
Nope.
>>182794249
They can emulate sex, sure, but they can't have sex.
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>>182794483
Oral sex has sex right in the name you doof. Don't be a lesbophobe.
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>>182794483
>I invent my own definitions and chastise others for not using them
Hey, look, it's That Guy From the Internet. He's famous.
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>>182793949
Sorry I didn't think of that.

Ninja Swords 1 - Ashura, Sakura-saezuri, Kagenui, Orochi
Ninja Swords 2 - Iga Blade
Ninja Swords 3 - Koga Blade
Yagyu Darkblade & Mess

>>182794043
My first class was monk.
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>>182794483
Shouldn't you be in bed, bro? Early morning at sermon tomorrow.
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>>182794483
>They can emulate sex
that's sex. this is just the "true scotsman" argument. you have some arbitrary definition, but it's just your definition.
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>>182794483
Sorry dude, that one time you sucked that guy's dick behind the school still counts.
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>>182794612
Monk has White Magic 9 behind one quickening (Bravery & Curaja), so that's definitely something to consider. At least stick with Yagyu & Mesa node, for sure. Might depend on how you setup your other healing characters/buffers.
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>>182794472
I should add, with the exception of the moose.
But again, 18 atk will never make the difference here, even across your whole team.
You literally couldn't tell the difference with damage variation.
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>>182794548
>>182794604
>sex
>[seks]
>NOUN
>(chiefly with reference to people) sexual activity, including specifically sexual intercourse
>sex·u·al in·ter·course
>[ˈsekSH(əw)əl ˈin(t)ərˌkôrs]
>NOUN
>sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, especially the insertion of a man's erect penis into a woman's vagina, typically culminating in orgasm and the ejaculation of semen.
>>182794651
It's only 5PM here. Thanks for the concern though.
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Zodiac Age on PC when? I stopped playing when X came out but I heard XII was a step back to their routes after the trainwreck that was X.
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>>182794612
I'd skip Iga Blade, as the others all have viable status effects on hit and water damage isn't THAT unique.
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>>182794472
>18 more ATK is not going to enable you to do any of those things, dingus.
I already stated in that this isn't about Lunera versus Ramza. Hell, I even use Lunera myself and have no desire for other singers. The point is the claim that offensive stats are never important. Reading skills, anon.

>And ALL of those things are a convenience at best.
You can dismiss almost anything as a 'convenience' if you try hard enough, doesn't mean it isn't incredibly helpful to you to be able to do it. You're making life much, much harder on yourself than it has to be if you ignore the benefits of having good burst damage and finishers.

>How about king mog? Having a single strong unit carry a party of bonus units is the best way to get the most currency out of your energy, and the easiest and fastest way to do that is to just blow everything away in 1-2 turns.
This is something you flat out can't do with a tank, too.
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>cybersex has sex in the name
>that must be real sex too

>sextuplets have sex in the name
>sextants have sex in the name
>sussex has sex in the name
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>>182794612
>>182794887

Alright I had to look it up, unlocking Iga Blade will allow you to grab White Mage 9 from Monk's board. So my suggestion is to grab that, Yagyu, and probably the first Ninja sword node and just skip the node that gives Koga blade
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>/ffg/ has been shit ever since summerfest ended for RK
hmm.........
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How the fuck do people have 7000 HP Memelandus?
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>>182795379
You can change the word to intercourse if you want.
Oral intercourse remains intercourse.
Only some arbitrary puritan values would cause one to discount all the various acts of sodomy as sex.
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>>182795341
If you used Lunera for all that JP content you talked about, then obviously the 18 attack isn't that important cause you got though fine without it
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>>182795341
>king mog
Yes, hence "only useful in raids"
Dumbass.

Whether the boss wipes you in one hit is not convenience. Whether you spend 40 turns or 45 turns killing it is, since you win in both cases.
And obviously we're talking within reason, fag. They're unimportant in perspective to DEF boosts and just about everything else.

More offense is just a luxury.
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>182795443
no (you)s for you
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>>182795443
You're a shit
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>>182795036
>sexual activity, including specifically sexual intercourse
>including
Do you know the definition of the word including, anon? That means that it's not the only thing in the category
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>>182795513
Queen's TMR probably
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>not in RK
>not in BE
>not in Dissidia
When will it be time for time?
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>>182795534
>in·ter·course
>NOUN
>communication or dealings between individuals or groups:

>I have "lesbian sex"(oral intercourse) whenever I talk to someone
Wow.
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>>182794887
>>182795317
>>182795426
Thanks for the input. Really sucks I can't get them all as a completionist.
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>>182796061
I will consume no more of your bait, bait peddler.
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>>182796061
I lost track. What are you people arguing about?
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>>182796191
How do quickenings work with the dual boards anyway?
Is each one associated with a fixed partner on every other board, or do you have some freedom?
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>>182795957
>>not in Dissidia
Uh?
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>>182796474
>I don't want to admit I'm wrong so I'll just call it bait
Lol
>>182796496
Lesbianism is degeneracy and pointless.
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>>182796674
The new one, jackass.
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>>182794678
Not when you're assuming your definition is the right one, anon.
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>>182796474
>FFXV fan is mad about someone not liking lesbians
Hmmm...
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>>182796604
Yes. Each board has four quickenings. Each quickening has number tagged to it (1 through 4) and once you unlock, say, quickening #1 on one character's board, then quickening#1 will correspondingly be unlocked on whatever secondary job that character has.
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>>182796496
Some Christfag's pissy that lesbians aren't interested in him
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>>182795631
>Yes, hence "only useful in raids"
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you can't tell the difference between a king mog event and a raid.

>Whether you spend 40 turns or 45 turns killing it is, since you win in both cases.
Read everything I said in the first post. It's a far, far more dramatic difference than 5 turns. There are definitely times when it means the difference between a win and a loss.

>>182795548
Yes, I said that in my last two posts too.
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>>182796737
Everything is degeneracy and pointless though.
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>>182797000
There isn't a single fight in the game where having ATK buffs is the difference between a win and a loss. You are full of shit and you know it.

There are countless fights where a lack of defensive buffs means you wipe
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>>182796737
>Lesbianism is degeneracy and pointless.
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>>182796935
Why would I want disgustingly dumb degenerate dykes to deem me desirable
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>>182796773
It's coming.
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>>182797784
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>>182797380
>There isn't a single fight in the game where having ATK buffs is the difference between a win and a loss. You are full of shit and you know it.
Have fun with Trial 12 I guess. I have better things to do with my time than continue this stupid argument.
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>>182798103
>Autistic fox posting
Please no. Seriously though, from my perspective they're degenerate and thus undesirable. I feel just as indifferent about them liking me or not as I would a straight woman that did drugs or was an atheist.
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>>182798395
If you mean the fucking moose I already mentioned it, fag.
Outside of DPS races, there is no extreme need for ATK/MAG buffs.

If they come bundled along with your other buffs, we'll then hurray. But they're never worth trading unit space over.
You just want to argue for arguments sake. Thus is true for all practical reasons.
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>>182798535
Easily offended christfag showing his true colors
>>
Did you know there were no lesbians in the original final fantasy?
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>>182798535
Do your parents know you're a fan of a game series involving collecting false gods and practising black magic? Aren't they worried you'll end up all DORK SARDED?
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>>182798973
>this anon's mother finds out he's playing Final Fantasy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjl54v1irbs
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>>182798945
I don't know man, those Lufenians are pretty fishy
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>he doesn't want lesbians in his final fantasy
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>>182799598
Lesbians are cute. Loving girls.
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>>182798973
They've been dead for years. They weren't religious anyway.
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Girl love is pure!
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bark
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>>182798535
>or an athiest
Top fucking lol. How does it feel to worship one of the hundreds of "God"s? I hope you picked the right religion buddy
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>>182800146
Women aren't capable of love
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>>182800164
Silly fox. Why are you still in your winter coat? It's spring.
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>>182800164
>not posting best pupper
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>one retarded christian posts and all the fedora-tippers come crawling out of the woodworks
You all need to go.
ONLY BE POSTS ALLOWED HERE
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>>182798701
>>182800201
Back to youtube comments or plebbit you go.
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>>182800328
>Implying oral love isn't love
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>>182799598
Shame the writing of XIII was so garbage because it had some fine women.
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>>182800201
*tips*
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>>182800387
No, fuck off back to your containment board shitstain /pol/lack
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>>182800453
>Lesbian lover too retarded to understand XIII's plot
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>>182800547
>unironically playing XIII
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>>182800343
bork
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>>182800359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NuFVQk_CCs
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>>182800498
>muh pol boogeyman
What the FUCK? Get the hell out of here with your deflections and non-sequitors.
>>>/pol/
>>>/tv/
>>>/v/
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The hell did I walk in on?
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>>182801007
Kill yourself fujoshit
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>>182800830
>Get the hell out of here with your deflections and non-sequitors
>literally told someone the comment before to go back to plebbit
kek
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>>182801120
You sound upset. What happened?
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>>182801123
>common insult on 4chan
>versus random shitpost
L E L
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Running that last part of A promise Beyond time seems to be pretty good player xp, like 3325xp for 90 nrg plus a bunch of crysts, like a bunch of mil and heavy and a giant.
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final fantasy
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Remember when /ffg/ used to have real FF discussions?
Me neither.
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>>182801457
>more like, gay anons thinks its ok for their parents to become gay too
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>>182801467
lol
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What kind of units do I need to do Chamber of Awakening PRO? The mats I need to 5 star my Rikku are there and I can't even finish the first battle.
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>>182801880
Summon some friends bucko. Any level 100 with 300 atk or more should be able to solo it.
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>>182801880
Like literally any.
>>
THE SPIRITS ARE OVER TOWN
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>>182801880
Buy them from King Mog with the resources you farm from Henne Mines. Chamber of Awakening PRO is a shit.
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>>182795194
roots
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who is your favorite character from the FF of the last digit of this post
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>>182802029
WAITING FOR ME TO HIT THE FLOOR

>>182802371
Garland's probably the only "character" in that game so...
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Between Vaan and Balthier, who should I make Shikari/Breaker and who should I make Knight Bushi?
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>>182802371
The robot in the waterfall cave
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>>182802371
Garland
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>>182768632
If you're still stuck, you can just RW Tidus' Energy Rain (or really any OSB? they don't have more than 40K HP) to blast through Bahamut and then hit Evrae hard in the second fight.
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>>182802371
Bahamut
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>>182802371
Garland. Also a favorite in BE.
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>>182802774
I wish doublehand stacked in GL, I wanna use Garland.

Also Chaos in BE when?
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Why don't people sell BE starter accounts like people do with FGO?

You could get a FGO account with like 1k in quartz for eight bucks
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>>182798535
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>>182802868
Facebook integration
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>>182802868
Are you looking to start BE? I got a freshly rolled Orlandu account
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>>182802868
they do in jp. not possible in gl. however gl is shit objectively speaking so just get a jp account.
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>>182803416
Still trying to peddle that shit off, huh? Everyone knows you're going to change the info later.
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>>182803428
>implying GL isn't objectively better balanced

We don't need half that powercreep shit.
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>>182803428
Global is shit while jp is garbage easy mode.
BE isn't worth anyone's time.
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>>182802868
>actually account selling
I got a Waver/Herc account in 3 rerolls lmao
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FINAL FANTASY!

On our last episode, our heroes slogged through the Earthgift Shrine and Hellfire Chasm, and fought a bunch of easy bosses. Nothing of significance happened. Then they attempted Lifespring Grotto and fought Gilgamesh and Atomos. Unfortunately Anon lost his mind at that point and forgot to save at any point before accidentally exiting the dungeon. Not wanting to go through all of that shit AGAIN, we move on to Whisperwind Cove.
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>>182803574
It's better balanced to get you to whale.

>>182803769
these are chinese farmed accounts. so fresh with a couple hundred free rolls in them. Chinese mass farm them and sell them.
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>>182803684
Whats wrong with easy mode? its just a phone game anyways
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>>182803769
I'd say take your meta cancer elsewhere, but then I realized we're already in /ffg/, home of BE: Metafags
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>>182803853
>Not wanting to go through all of that shit AGAIN
Nigga go back and fight the mech and the dragon ASAP
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>Memelandus abiliy that reduces atk and mag
saved me desu
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Who would you anons say is the most difficult mandatory boss in the series?

None of those optional superbosses or postgame bosses, but something you have to fight to advance through the game
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>>182803853
>poor Gilgamesh still looking for Excalibur
lol
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>>182804637
the solo khimari fight
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>>182804637
Seymour unless you overleveled like crazy and yunalesca.
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>>182803853
I don't remember any of the extra content in the GBA version except for being bored. Maybe the Chronodia nonsense in the PSP one isn't as boring?
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>>182804637
I wanna say that dumb dragon in FFXII. The one after Tiamat but way harder. Elder Dragon?
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>>182804637
Yunalesca.
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>>182804856
Trial 100 with the five judges at once is the hardest thing on FFXII.
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>>182805056
Hardly mandatory though.
>>
Which FF plot made the least sense
>>
>>182805186
8
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>>182805186
13.
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>>182804768
I had played tons of FF games before FFX, but I couldn't figure out Yunalesca for some reason. You would think the megadeath gimmick would be obvious? But for some reason I couldn't figure out that zombie blocked it. I felt pretty retarded later on. FF games don't really tend to wipe you other than the optional superbosses as long as you go in prepared.
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>>182805186
FFX-2
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>>182801298
>implying telling pol faggots to go home isn't a common thing on 4chan
Spoken like someone who just stepped out of his containment board
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>>182804824
You had to go through a lot of minigame bullcrap to reach her and depending on how you do, her fight changes somewhat (I haven't gotten to her, so I can't comment too much on that). I remember the GBA dungeons mostly because of how weird they were.
Also, I hope anon linked the boss remixes as he reached them.
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>>182805308
Maybe if you aren't following the story.
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>>182805186
9. Everything up until Disc 3-ish was okay, but what even was Memoria, and Necron? Had an easier time understanding Ultimecia and her motivations than the end game of 9.
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>>182804637
FF3 Garuda, you stupid fuckers.

Shoutouts to FF1 Kraken rematch, but I was doing that solo, I don't think it counts.
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>>182803769
You could have sold that shit, if it was so easy why didn't you?
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>>182805569
13's was dumber than time compression.
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>>182805648
>Garuda
>implying
just use dragoons gg no re
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>>182805186
FF Type-0 doesn't make sense
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>>182805569
>this evil pope is trying to get us to destroy Cocoon
>I know, let's do exactly what he wants, that'll show him
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>>182805802
He can still Lightning your ass before your jumps go off
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>>182805759
He said "doesn't make sense" retard. What doesn't make sense in FF13?
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>>182803853
https://youtu.be/rKMMCPeiQoc
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>>182805987
What doesn't make sense about 8?
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>>182805186
VIII

Ultimecia's plan is literally bonkers.
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>>182806103
Squall dies in the middle of the game. There is no explanation of how he lives after the icicle pierces his chest.
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>>182806064
>find the blue-haired kid
>they're all blue
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>>182805987
well the big one is >>182805943
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>>182804637
I had a ton of trouble with the 1v1 weigraf battle the first playthrough when I didn't know I would have to do that kind of battle.
Pls no bully
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>>182806103
Ultimecia needlessly reveals herself and her plan with stupid shit she didn't need to do, and grandstanding. The heroes would never have found out about anything if she stays low until she gets the Luntic Pandora. Laguna also could've done a lot more to prevent shit from happening as the president of Esthar.
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>>182806350
Phoenix down
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>>182804768
I really never understood what is so hard about Flux that gets people stuck in that fight.
There's a lot of shit you can do to make life easier for you in that fight. Similarly with Yunalesca, the Megadeath gimmick might catch you off-guard once but when you remember how Zombie works it's easy. I also get 1 Deathproof/Zombieproof armor with shit I got from the arena rewards as insurance, and when I play X I tend to ignore a whole bunch of the cast so my actual main party might be slightly overleveled?
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>>182806485
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If I don't get the Nier units, I'm uninstalling boys.
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>>182806743
Good lord is that really how bad X HD's models are?
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>>182806743
the fuck happened to his face
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>>182805520
>replying nearly an hour later
>thinking "muh pol" is something old and traditional
fuck off already >>>/pol/
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come to think of it, if the geostigma is the result of the planet's lifestream trying to cleanse Jenova/Sephiroth's influence on it, wouldn't Sephiroth's plan have made no fucking sense because if he sat at the epicenter of the meteorfall the lifestream would've recognized him as harmful and just fucking killed him?
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>>182806485
So why didn't they use Phoenix down on Aeris?
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>>182805648
This. It's flat out luck.

>>182805802
>Implying he won't go first
>Implying he won't use his two turns if he misses you the first time.

>>182806064
Be sure to talk to as many people as you can.
The dialogue's pretty creepy.
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>>182807005
They didn't actually like her.
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Pic very related
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>>182806984
b-b-b-but FFVII is a g-good game...
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>>182806743
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>>182807005
>Aeris
>s
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>>182775928
>Episode
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>>182807234
It makes sense in the context of FFVII alone, but then the compilation stuff comes in and you open a can of worms.
But I might be misunderstanding this.
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>>182806984
Sephiroth after devouring the Lifestream would command it, the planet would die.
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>>182807197
>Giving a shit about summons
What are you, 12?
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>>182806973
>thread goes 30 minutes without a reply sometimes
>WAAAH YOU TOOK 40 MINUTES TO REPLY! TOO LONG! SAD!
fuck off autist
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>>182807197
>shiva
Good taste.
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>>182807459
No but, would he actually be able to absorb the lifestream?
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>>182806350
Other main characters have survived much worse. Cloud has been impaled by Sephiroth before the game, and in-game he drowns in magical mind-breaking gaia lava.

>>182806452
>The heroes would never have found out about anything if she stays low until she gets the Lunatic Pandora.
SeeD would have had no reason to go to Lunatic Pandora without finding out about Ultimecia's plan to control Adel. It is too far to say that revealing herself was essential to her plan, but being from the future gives her the hindsight to know the gambit works.

>Laguna also could've done a lot more to prevent shit from happening as the president of Esthar.
He had Adel under wraps. What else was there to do, being entirely unaware of Ultimecia's existence? Throwing Adel's stasis chamber into the sun was no guarantee of safety, hell it could've allowed her to escape.
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>>182807773
Why not? He swam within it for five years and learned all he could from the Cetra and humans.
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>>182806064
FUCK FAIRIES FUCK THE FAIRY VILLAGE FUCK THIS GAME FUCK THIS SHITTY ASS DUNGEON FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUUUCK
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>>182807234
Geostigma is AC, not FF7
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>>182807801
>What else was there to do?

Destroy the fucking Lunatic Pandora.
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>>182807884
Hey, your first game over?

Feel free to take a break and switch to 2 if you'd like.
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>>182807932
You can't game over in SoC
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>>182807884
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>>182807801
>Cloud was a shit soldier
>Somehow manages to beat the strongest character in the game.
how the hell did he do that?
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>>182807556
>not wanting shiva to turn your dick to diamonds
and then to dust
???
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>>182804637
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>>182807927
Who says they had the means? Sinking it into an undisclosed location in the ocean is a big enough hurdle to stop people triggering a new Lunar Cry... at least without someone from the far future holding all the cards.
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>>182808143
>Who says they had the means?

Esthar is literally Tomorrowland. I think they would've had the means.
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>>182807932
No. I won't let this game beat me. I saved this time. Earlier, but still.
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>>182808073
+Overflowing with adrenaline
+His mom just got killed by the fucker
+His best friend and his crush's lives are in immediate danger
+At wrestlemania
+Near ladders, not wanting no trabble
+5 minutes until Namek explodes
+/ffg/ thread about to be archived with no new thread popping up

Cloud basically got all the odds stacked in his favor
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>>182808073
From what I understood Cloud became the prototype of a new form of MAKO infusion after the events in the Niblheim Reactor.
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>>182808073
Because he got the drop on Sephiroth, who basically just killed an entire town
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AWW YISS!
Free gil!
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>>182808084
Summons are shit. They're always horribly balanced like they're an afterthought every time. The only FF with any real summon balance is Mobius
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>>182808296
>>182808254
>Beat someone who can cut dragons in half
yeah no I'm calling bullshit maybe if they hadn't shown us the difference between them I could believe it.
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>>182808254
top wew
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>>182808390
Summons are balanced in FFIV.
Because everything worth dropping Bahamut on just counters with an instakill or Meteor
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>>182808356
I got Cloud USB as an RW but I don't really get any more gil out of it than I did with TGC OSB
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>>182807197
Alexander, forever and always.
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>>182808441
so what, he can cut dragons in half
doesn't mean he can't get stabbed
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>>182808487
So ,what you're say is, that it's horribly balanced to the point they have to instantly kill you for using a summon. Nice.
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>>182808219
By that logic you would've thought Tomorrowland had the means to destroy a Sorceress too. But they didn't; they only barely had the means to contain one. Being Tomorrowland doesn't mean Esthar has a silver bullet for everything.
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>>182808356
What's your roaming warrior senpai
>>
Do I make gil in FFBE? these expeditions are killing me
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>>182808390
FF6's were pretty balanced. Shit like Fenrir and Phantom are lifesavers, and who could forget dodging Ultima with Palidor/Quetzalli?
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>>182807197
>ey yo let my bitch sing to you a bit while I kill your gods
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>>182808561
>That feeling when I pulled this while having no monk class cards
Feels bad man
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>>182808812
Need to whore out Fina. She sucks a mean dick so once you get her going you'll be raking in the gil
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>>182807884
Fuck fairies. Fuck your unfunny reference too.
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>>182807197
A TO THE L TO THE E X ANDER


I'm still ass-blasted that neither FFX so much as referenced him.
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>>182808812
The raid summons from the Bahamut and Titan raid are still carrying me, too bad this raid gacha is shit.
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That feelio when stumbling upon old memories while cleaning up
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>>182809404
how is Cloud holding the Buster Sword there
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>>182809404
Me on the- actually they all look kinda weird nevermind.
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>>182809404
That artstyle looks like they're from a 90s educational cartoon
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>>182809257
I'd fuck a fairy.
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>>182809404
Why does Garnet have down syndrome? Why does Cloud look like Jay Leno?
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/ffrk/ what are you saving your mythril for eh
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>>182809541
Zidane and Vivi look somewhat okay, I guess
>>
RK bros, is Curada good? Is it worth sacrificing all my white, earth, and holy crystals for this ability to be R2?
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>>182808891
>dodging with Palidor
Goddamnit why didn't I think of that
>>
I kinda fucked up, more luck next time
>>182809275
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>>182809792
If I was still playing I'd have been saving for the upcoming type 0 and VIII banners
The last VIII banner broke me though
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>>182808781
You might not have heard of him.
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>>182809823
Its actually really good now on USB heal meta
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>>182809823
It'd probably still be hard to justify replacing curaja/ultra cure normally, unless you have an extra spot when another character is taking care of proshellga. But only because of the low uses. If you do a lot of burst healing then it'd be pretty ideal.
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>>182811560
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>>182752185
Why do all of those people look like women?
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>>182793925
>>182794548
>>182794604
>>182794651
>>182794678
>>182794714

There is only one way women can procreate to pass on their DNA. We're not talking about modern sex here but making babies. It's called zionic implantation and to make the baby two females rub their clits together hard enough to generate entropy to their fallopian tubes which will then emit a sonic wave launching unfertilized eggs into each other to form a symbiotic bond and trigger a space time rip in which robust X particles from the third dimension fertilize and enter the protonucleus a la carte.
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