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>>180425776

>New TF2 Blogpost about Balance Changes:
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147
>list of good comm. servers
http://www.teamfortress.tv/servers

>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/6t7WNtgn
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf | steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: scrap.tf | tf2outpost.com | backpack.tf | bazaar.tf
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: backpack.tf | trade.tf
Scrapbanking: scrap.tf | scrapbank.me
Skins: p337.info/tfview/

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ | pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W

>/tf2g/s looking to party queue
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-e-Sut2sj954Cjm8aGzXMaN4dSSop7xgiyp9DCdOK8/edit?usp=sharing
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1st for traps
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2th for pubs with friends
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3nd for Samus
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>>180525517
>Vipes is a dude who stole people's ideas and uploaded them to the workshop,
got any more? what did he steal? im curious
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5th for back to awful edition
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I don't fucking know, dude. I reads stories, and I didn't care much to read more about them

Apparently, the biggest example was a Team Rocket knockoff hat someone else came up with for TF2 and he made it his own
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7nd for i wouldn't call that awful
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8st for yeah, that's terrible. Fucking degenerates
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official reserve shooter nerf by valve (i visited their tf2 development basement 2 days ago. they unironically have stats plastered on a chalk board)

it stays the same for soldier but they're splitting it for pyro and naming it something else

The Reserve Shooter(Pyro)

Level 10 Shotgun
Mini-crits burning targets launched airborne by airblast and reflected projectiles
-63% secondary reserve ammo
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>>180526601
are they true? do you believe them?
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Vipes didn't steal the Team Rocket hat, he was the one who made it for GMod Tower or whatever it was called. The idea that he stole it is the favorite point to harp on about by the Vipes Hater. Fuck that guy.
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Iunno if it's true or not. I don't give a shit either. I'm not into stupid drama like that
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>>180526601
>>180526768
>>180526793
you forgot to use the reply function friend : )
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>>180526768
so he has this stigma about stealing things, even though he never has?
i smell bullshit. there has to be a reason.
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I didn't forget shit, guy
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>you will never round up every tripfag of /tf2g/ in a room and watch them wail as you delete their inventories one item by one
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>>180527032
who are you conversing with then, buddy?
it seems like incoherent rambling when one doesn't reply ;)
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Can't cry over materialistic things
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can someone explain how the new panic attack isn't a direct upgrade

>50% faster switch speed which means double which means 2.5 seconds
>95 damage meatshots
>fixed spread

like how is wide spread even a possible balancing point for a shotgun? even the FaN sometimes does more damage at mid range than the scattergun for some retarded reason. soldiers can abuse this by firing a rocket and pulling out shotgun to deal 200+ damage in a quarter of a fucking second.
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sorry i meant 0.25 seconds im retarded
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>you will never hack vipes account and make him watch as you delete all his workshop submissions and inventory

Why live
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>>180527383
it has wider spread too, i suppose you will have to be in someone's face to do a meatshot

its hard to tell what its going to be like without actually playtesting it
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what is the ugliest non-skin weapon and why is it this sack of shit
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>>180526271
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>>180527641
>let's make a weapon based on airborne shooting
>except it's actually worse when shot airborne

what the fuck were they thinking?
seriously, what the fuck were they thinking?
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>>180527641
excuse me
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>>180527174
Good thing I don't trip

>>180527641
Why didn't you post the soda popper then?
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>>180527760
this is the only weapon that makes sense in the game bar the shovel
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>>180527910
>shotgun makes no sense
>pistol makes no sense
>axe makes no sense
>but a fucking wooden stick with a giant nail in it makes sense
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>>180527641
I agree that it's ugly but god damn it's fun with gunboats
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>>180527760
hating on
>gonna take down to the pain train station in train town

captcha: gasp
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>>180528008
>with the gunboats
just use the beggar's bazooka then, it's miles better
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>>180528002
of course it makes sense
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>>180528089
I do
but changing it up every now and then is fun
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>>180527383
FaN has the same spread as the scattergun. It has more pellets so there is a chance you'll line up just right for your target to take far more pellets than an equivalent Scattergun shot would be able to connect.
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ded
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABj5KF1u8KI

Skip to 0:50 for the tf2 gameplay.
The first 50 seconds is just giving context to who this guy is and what he makes
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>>180528198
Wait I just realized, is that +3 deviation ot the rockets considered weapon spread, meaning it's not actually in match making?
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>>180530194
>2 minutes in
>overacting
>shitty dubstep signifying the music taste of a 10 year old
>le ironic brony man
>donation shit
>memes
Fuck off with this cancer
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>>180530695
what the fuck do you mean
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>>180530904
What video did you watch?
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>flawless a 3v3 as scout
>team's nowhere to be seen
>soldier main, spy main, and f2p scout on enemy team
Should I have felt proud?
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>>180530194
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>>180530194
did he okay
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>>180531019
yours clearly
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>>180531119
Why did you screenshot this?
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>>180531119
>someone who posts on tf2g posts a comment on a video posted on tf2g
So?
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>>180530973
Is the deviation on the rockets on the beggers considered weapon spread, meaning it shoots straight rockets in places like match making.
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>>180530194
Why would you have sprays on if you're streaming?
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>>180531683
Meh, I have sprays on, voice on, chat on. I just mark my stream as mature
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>>180531205
I didn't make the video.
I think you have confused what is being made fun of in the video. If you watched the whole thing you wouldn't look like a retard
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>>180531779
I think you're severely underage and link to shitty meme cancer on top of breaking the rules.
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>>180531838
>breaking the rules
???
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>>180531838
>"watch the video so you dont look like a retard"
>fuck that Im going to make myself look like more of a retard!
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>>180532156
You're assuming things that simply aren't true as an attempt to shift the goal posts. I simply called you out on your age and your cancerous meme video
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>>180532156
>You're assuming things that simply aren't true as an attempt to shift the goal posts
You mean assuming that you are retard because you act like it?

>I simply called you out on your age and your cancerous meme video
Its not even a meme video. What are you talking about? Also I am an adult, unlike you
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>>180532220
>>180532330
Wrong post
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>>180532330
I could care less where you choose to spend your time but you're clearly more a reddit type of guy. They love ironic meme videos with shitty dubstep over there a lot.
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>>180532417
What is wrong with you?
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>>180531774
can you even do that on twitch?
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>>180528002
>shotgun makes no sense
Have you seen how that thing is loaded and eject shells?

>>180531570
Love even after 10+ years people don't know what removing random spread does.
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>just got out of a game where i was arguing with a tard about how sprays should be disabled by default but allowed on all valve servers

apparently
"""""that doesnt fix the problem with inappropriate sprays""""""
somehow???
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>>180532594
Wait so the spread isn't random with the beggers but instead has a fixed and consistant way of spreading the rockets?
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>>180527696
What's wrong with it?
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>>180532485
Yeah, I did.
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>>180532468
Trying to cleanse this place from underage shitters such as yourself
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>>180532156
Why are you posting my wife stop it

I'm not gonna stop you or anything because it's 3:30 am and I need to sleep but just know I really don't approve and would appreciate it if you didn't okay thanks
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>dicking around on 2fort, getting some final use out of amby sniping before it dies
>random kick votes on me
>none go through so ignore
>suddenly some foreigneese child starts lighting up chat berating me for not going objective and shouting about "noob team"
>continues whole match
>check and realize he was a scout trying to cap all match and getting shit on by engineers, and expected me to throw myself at the nests to sap them
lmao, if you take casual 2fort seriously you should probably end it all because that's some weapons grade autsim
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>>180533807
>check and realize he was a scout trying to cap all match
Ah, he probably tried to get those achievements people in this very thread claimed you should care about.
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>>180530194
>"Someone drew porn of my OC guys, I can't handle this. I gotta cut the stream early guys."
>"Thanks for the donations tho"
Perfectly calculated
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>>180532803
with random spread disabled?
probably.
Unless they coded the randomness into the weapon, in which case no.

Also for fucks sake learn to play the fucking game and don't type like a 13 years old.
Do you think that if the beggars shot straight in competitive, someone wouldn't use it?
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i remember when back in 2010 achievements were fun and felt fucking satisfying to get because community wasn't full of retards and they weren't nerfed to shit
S*M*A*S*H/blast assist, tam o'shatter/medical breakthrough, doctoring the ball/you'll feel a little prick, specialist etc
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>>180534972
the classic cheevos were satisfying to get and made me realize the weapon is actually kind of fun
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Is there some way to make the flamethrower flames not obscure vision so much?
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In casual mode. Do post-round kills count towards your kdr?
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>>180534706
>>180530194

>Being insulted over porn

All fan art is good fan art, even the type intended as an insult :V
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where's my drawing, you hack

you said you'd draw something for me
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>people will never draw fan art, especially porn, of your characters
it hurts
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>>180535191
viewmodel_fov 0.1
r_drawviewmodel 0
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>>180534713
I dont know, I assumed it had to do with the reload maybe making it really hard to counter other soldiers who try to get the first hit, like how roamers tend to, and scouts. Also if its spread is calculated you'd think people WOULD use the beggers then since, by the logic of it not being random spread but predictable and calculated spread, you could predict where its going to go. THis in turn allows you to just move your view a slight amount to compensate. People do that to get an extra pellet shot in with the Force a Nature last time I checked, granted that was like years agoso they might have changed it for all I know. Also how am I talking like a 13 year old?
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>>180536016
>/tf2g/
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>>180536094
Smash Mouth is more related to tf2 than you know
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>>180536016
oh my fuck
but still, not tf2
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>>180536016
They later deleted that tweet and said shad had problems.
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>>180536269
Wait, nevermind the bottom part didn't load when I posted that.
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>>180535596
That's for the gun you're holding right?
I should have been more clear; I mean for when the enemy pyro is filling your face with fire and you can't see to shoot him.
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>>180536609
Outside of mods no, there's nothing you can do.
viewmodel_fov 0.1 hides your own flames
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>>180536609
It's literally a gameplay feature to make people panic and cause people to shit their pants when at close range with a pyro
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>>180535460
What is "The Silent Heaven"?
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>>180537380

A project I've left abandoned for a couple years, I'll bring it back once I've deemed my skills are good enough.
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>>180537771
that doesn't answer anything
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>>180538061

mmmff...

Basically, The Silent Heaven was an art blog where I'd take commissions without restrictions, for a significantly higher price compared to what I usually do, having doing fetish artwork for a living for a few years now, I've seen some really twisted stuff, and knowing that some people really do have special tastes they can't find drawn anywhere, my intention was to make a restriction-free service.

Unfortunately, back when I first got the idea I soon realised I needed to train a lil' bit further.
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>>180536609
Custom configs can make flames unobtrusive
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>mfw i get cockblocked
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why this
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>>180539345
more of this

>>180539479
less of this

Seems like two simple instructions to follow.
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>>180539479
>That clipping
>>180539524
I'd have to bother learning how to use shadowplay and webm4retards, i'm way too lazy for that
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draw my pyro fucking a level 3 sentry

i'll give you 1 dolor
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funke's got a point in his latest vid

especially about the unusuals going to shit and stupid ass top tier hats being stupid and artificially inflated in scarcity and therefore price (making valve even more jew tax profit on the SCM)
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>>180538276
>draws child porn
>"Fetish artwork"
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>>180539732
>shadowplay
You can do without

1)http://www.igmdb.org/?page=render
upload your demo, it will post a youtube video automatically
2)slap this script ->https://pastebin.com/Fw7HFg7q
into the same folder as youtube-dl and ffmpeg
3)get the youtube video link, start the script and follow the instructions, i edited so it asks me for the quality but i can easily modify it so that it defaults to best quality (1080p)
3a)you can also tell the script to clip the video from minute x to minute y
4)webm for retards, just slap the mp4 in there, trim or resize the video if you feel like it, set max output size at 3mb and enable high quality mode
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I haven't played since 2015.
Please convince me to play again.
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>>180540064
DR is getting nerfed
soon(tm)
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>>180539732
Ah, any game discussion is fine. Just not that loadout crap imo
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>>180540104
this, play spy while you can. Extreme fun time ahead of you
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give medic mantreads

give pyro tide turner

give heavy scattergun

give pyro huo-long heater as a secondary

give demoman disciplinary action
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give demo a glock
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there it is
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>>180540326
>give pyro tide turner
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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delete soldier
give heavy all rocket launchers as unlocks

delete sniper
give spy all sniper rifles as unlocks
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fuck that
give every class a rocket launcher and triple jumps
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As long as demo gets a glock, I'm fine with that.
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fuck that
remove all classes and make tf2 a cartoon csgo
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Okay, the karting event needs a name.

Map is based on Mt. Akina from Initial D.
Top prize is a Plumber Cap and a Victory Lap taunt.

Best name wins.
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>>180540652
Too poor to afford mario kart or something?
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>>180540652
Teufort drift : lonely nights
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>>180536998
I don't have a problem with nerves but I can't see where to put my bullets so I lose fights to pyros I should be able to survive.

>>180538885
Such as?
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Newfreinds are really starting to get annoying.
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That infographic is 4 years old
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>>180540652
Deja vu - i've just seen this asset before
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>>180540035
mmhhh
MMMHHHH
nah fuck that, i don't plan on making a YT account anytime soon
>>180540791
Look at the OP nigga
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>>180540652
Badiewater bends
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>>180540849
This is oudated as fuck though?
.t owner of a g403
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>>180536016
>liking shadmeme
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>>180540996
>YT account
doesn't require one.
It uploads to that site's YT channel
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>>180540652
tdm_rainbowroad
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>>180540652
When is it?
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>>180540849
woah a razer deathadder? isn't that the mouse that GAMERS use to be as good as jerma985?
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>>180540652
Is it still entirely broken textures and glass boxes?
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>he doesn't use a chinese knockoff razer
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>>180540652
mariokart_tf_artpass
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>>180541559
Well I think I fixed the last bug I wanted to fix before it was good to go. Map looks a bit barren but I'm kind of sick of working on it at this point. July 2nd looks good, I'll have to make sure I'm not out of town that day though.

>>180541608
Have I given up on trying to sell you things that you aint buyin'?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE
I did redo the spawn and actually include the correct textures this time.
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how do i make an epic chat bind with blocky unicode symbols like that one that says N U T
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>>180541756
It's not for the map name, it's for the event's name

>>180540745
current topscore
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٠●•۩۞۩[ŊσσЬ۰đσώŋ]۩۞۩•●٠
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>go soldier or pyro
>kill heavy before he spins up with a reserve shooter combo
>"reported"

is there a better meme
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>>180542029
>implying you can juggle a heavy as soldier long enough to do the combo
just admit you play pyro
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>>180542029

>kill a friendly
>*You're being votekicked*

Better
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>>180540652
tf2/billysmap
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>>180542148
>keep killing a friendly because they keep taking the intel
>they switch to my team and start yelling at me over mic
favorite tf2 memory
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Just unboxed this the other day and my friend told me it could be a god-tier, what do you guys think?
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>>180542276
worth like 3 ref
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>>180542276
We have a separate board for this
>>>/biz/
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>>180542276
I offer 6 keys
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>>180542276
pretty much worthless. head over to tf2r.com/newraf.html and raffle
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>>180542276
worth close to nothing, should raffle it
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>>180542276
nice filename fucko
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>>180542276
i think i fucking hate you
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>>180542114
you can do it with both

>rocket
>reserve shottis
>rocket

~1 second frag

>walk toward heavy with degreaser and have all particles hit at once because he can't run
>airblast
>reserve shottis

0.4s to 0.8s frag
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>>180542276
This made me so unconfortable
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>>180540652
>land pipe on enemy
>charge in for the kill to get head
>pyro out of nowhere kills them with a shotgun
>this happens three more times
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>>180542525
whoops, meant to quote >>180539345
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Where the *eck are demos stored by default?
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>>180543050
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\demos
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pyro flamethrower

+shoots streams of liquid napalm with very heavy projectile arc. projectiles look like manmelter flares and travel at the same speed
+infinite projectile life. lasts until it hits terrain.
+infinite penetration
+sets terrain on fire for 1 second
+20% damage bonus
-no airblast
-no random critical hits
-can inflict self damage but also can kinda walljump with the self damage
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>>180530194
anyone got that spray?
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>infinite penetration

o///o
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yakui is doing an art stream

https://picarto.tv/MentalCrash
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push: pyro demoman heavy
pick: scout soldier sniper spy
protect: engineer medic
penis 8==D: meleeman
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so basically reddit wants to see in the game all the changes that valve proposed, what the fuck

I sincerely hope my well worded opinion explaining how making the game more luck based instead of skill based and generally punishing players for skill is taking the game in wrong direction will actually have more impact than those kids
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>>180543796
t. stabby
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>>180543830
they literally wrote this for Flying Guillotine:

"Goal: Remove the feeling of randomness, and reward accuracy"

and then they just do the opposite for Ambassador, what were they thinking?

if you support this Ambassador change you might as well support random crits because you like memes like LE FAIR AND BALANCED, LE WRENCH ALWAYS CRITZ XDDDD
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>>180544232
i do support random crits because they make good players do gooder and make melee viable and give you a chance against demoknights

get good fucking fragile faggot pick class can't even tank a fucking crit without your crutch ringer LOL fucking retard the revolver already has near perfect accuracy on the first shot literally nothing will change except you can't roleplay as a useful pick class like sniper
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>>180544389
Every hitscan weapon has pixel perfect accuracy on their first shot, the ambassador will be the first to deviate from the norm
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>>180544389
without random crits all weapons that don't do random crits as a nerf would be nerfed in some other way though

besides I would be totally fine if there were random crits enabled just for melee for a start, it would be much better than how it looks like now still

>nothing will change except you can't roleplay as a useful pick class like sniper
except that won't change at all, because you will still be able to land those shots except it will be totally random now

what is there that you don't fucking get?

Ambassador will stay the same, except it will be now more unrealiable on long range

the point is to nerf its damage on long range not making shots across the whole map become either hit or miss depending purely on random chance

>>>/reddit/
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What they say: "I'm going to play tf2"
What they mean:
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>>180545501
no you fuck off and stop further ruining this game

go play overwatch or something lamo :^)
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spy fix

removed all invis watches
disguises dont reduce your speed
replaced revolver with super shotgun
replaced sapper with sentry hack tool
secondary fire feigns death to where you literally become a ragdoll and can't move until cancelled
increased knife base damage to 80 and fire rate by 15%
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tf3 idea:

remove every class but scout and every weapon but the scattergun from the game
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also max health increased to 150

added tranquilzer and nailgun to inventory
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you are not me
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMPPXTnZP8g
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ambassador

+perfect accuracy
+crit headshots
+no cooldown
-50% damage penalty
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>>180545958
What is the fucking point?
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This thread smells of /v/
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but i just showered
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>>180546029
full ramp up from any distance if you're good

you wanted a skill based weapon right
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demo man wepon idae
+ cooll
- nigger
wloud u useit
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yes!
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>>180545958
>20 base damage
>60 crit
2 shots still won't kill a razorback sniper, but the same is true for stock at point blank range I guess, so that seems nice desu
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For how long has the Sandman allowed the scout to 2 shot anyone from medium range with impunity?
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>>180546517
8 years
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oddish for president
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How did Vipes get VAC banned? Are we really never gonna have Kamen Rider because of that? Did he really fuck over all of those peoples work on different submissions by getting himself VAC banned?
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>>180547262
TF2 is not the only game on the planet that uses VAC. I believe it was for mods on some cowadooty game or other.
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[B]ocelyn [B]ones
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-rep
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[B]oneless pizza
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Reminder that in 2012 LaroLaro had made 250k dollars in store sales alone. Five more years and the addition of the community market mean that he probably made a good million out of virtual hats
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Finding a match on quickplay should have a special sound effect like in dota 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwzTROptjOY

maybe this one? https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/e/ef/Vote_started.wav?t=20110617224546
or maybe just the notification sound effect used for everything else
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reminder that the mutated milk and self-aware beauty mark are direct upgrades
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Reminder that the iron bomber is a crutch.
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reminder that Engineer is OP
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Who win
1 engi
1 demo
Or better
Whoo win
1 engi
1 soldier
Wait I can do it even better
Who win
1 engi
1 sniper
Shit class
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0QTlzUQKCY

what the fuck
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>>180550439
I like how they're all second-rate.
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What's better to pair with the ranger and jag: the wrangler or the pistol?
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>>180550802
wrangler

RR, wrangler and jag is meta mvm loadout
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>>180549981
engie is almost as bad as pyro
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pistol is good too if you want to be more aggressive and less defensive though
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>>180540745
looked up that song, it's not the song I thought it was. what's the one song that's "lonely days, lonely nights" or something.
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>>180551806
I know the song you're talking about to. Has a few "LOOOOOOOOOOOONLEEEEEEEY NIIIIIIIIIIGHTS" but for the life of me I can't remember the name.
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>>180547262
considering an item got in way after he got a vacban, no. as long as it's not for a valve game, I don't think the tf2 team minds.

then again no one has ACTUALLY ASKED the damn tf2 team.
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>>180547262
that was actually me. i hacked his account thanks to some social engineering on steam support, and tried to get him VAC banned on some game for the lols. you'd be fuckin surprised how easy that shit is. the social engineering thing.
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I have played the game last time almost a week ago but I'm constantly shitposting here what's wrong with me
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>>180547262
>How did Vipes get VAC banned?
Rumor has it it's a vac ban for some game called Loadout.
>Are we really never gonna have Kamen Rider because of that?
Valve has added items from VAC'd players before and still do, as long as it isn't a VAC from Valve games. But that's the least of your worries as to why it won't get added. The real reason is because of how protective Toei and Bandai is of their IP. You know how Nintendo goes around shutting down fan games? Well those two are a LOT worse.
>Did he really fuck over all of those peoples work on different submissions by getting himself VAC banned?
To reiterate, no. As long as it's not a VAC ban on a Valve game, it's fine.
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>>180547262
wasn't sparkwire banned when he had a shitton of his items added?
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>>180551171
>Almost as mobile as scout
>Aimbot
>Ability to have infinite ammo and health
>Ability to teleport
>""""""""""""""""""bad"""""""""""""""
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>critical shots have no range falloff on the entirety of TF2's arsenal
>ledditors wants to set another set of rules apply to Ambassador to "balance" it
>"range falloff on critical hits"
>"it deals less damage on farther distances so it's balanced."
>not realizing it would kill the weapon in a whim
Do you really believe what you are typing?
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>>180547262
tossing my hat in the ring, as a workshopper. No, he didn't fuck anyone over. If his VAC ban affected tf2, he wouldn't have been able to upload to the tf2 workshop, let alone be a contrib on something in it.

Say, if you're VACbanned from CS:GO, you can't upload anything to that workshop. Same goes for any workshop. If it's on the workshop, it has a chance of getting in.
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>playing stock spy
>go behind enemy sniper
>he has razorback
>shoot him 2-3 times
>he has 11 health but he is now aware of me
>try to butterknife him since he's right in front of me
>instead trigger the razorback
>think "Oh it's not that bad, I can just butterknife him again"
>he gets a random crit
why are random crits in this fucking game again
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>>180552153
>le sosial engineeering xD
you lied to them, good job
your mom would be proud
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>>180554591
At least I still have a mom, vipes doesn't.
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okay
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>>180552480
>blunderwatch can have its kamen rider themed skin for genji
>we can't
:(
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About to trade my unusual. Totally not a scam boys!
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>>180556259
>[cashing out]
>actually spending his keys on a fucking particle effect
really makes u think
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>>180556474


I sent him a dota 2 background and some spiral knight shit.
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/unsubscribe
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>>180556259
h e y t r a d e r s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRuSruG61U0
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based viva is a faggot
>>
can heterosexuals be faggots
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>>180554529
>not just shooting him a 3rd/4th time
You have only yourself to blame
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post teams
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>>180558709
too lazy to make the chart
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>>180558093
that i can wholeheartedly agree with,
consider leaving viva, you're a cancer on /vg/
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>>180558884
>5 minutes in paint
I bet you don't organize your inventory by hand
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>>180559251
I don't. I sort by type
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>>180542276
It's probably the only one in existance worth about a bajillion keys, you hit it big sonny.

Easily worth over 1000 keys. I don't know the exact value.
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>>180542276
you had better fucking paint it lime and make a luigi loadout with it
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>>180558709
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>>180559516
>>180542276
Sell it on marketplace.tf for $5000. They take some of the profit but it'll be worth it for a safe transaction.
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>tfw there will never be an invasion 2 with even more lazer weapons
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>tfw there will never be an invasion 2 with more out of artstyle shit
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>>180558709
i should UPDATE THIS but i dont want to open SFM again
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>>180561223
invasion was perfectly within artstyle though

just not in theme
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>to trade virtual hats you need to wait 30 days
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>to not have to endure this, you have to have an up to date cellular phone, in this year, 2010 + 7
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>but you still have to wait 30 days regardless
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>some news on the update
>general gets busy again
>mfw its filled with literal underage /v/ users now
I genuinely would rather have every dipship post be a furshit post instead. At least a lot of furries are autistic enough to have more than a thousand hours.
>>
if you dislike the dead ringer change you're basically admitting you use it
>>
am I a giant faggot?
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>>180561746
you only need a phone that can receive text messages, you can emulate the app on a virtual smartphone for free
>>180561472
blame the retards that clicked absurdly obvious phishing links then cried about losing less than 1 USD of items
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>>180545661
>I'm agender and gay
>agender
>gay
>I am not a man or a woman
>But I am a man who likes other men
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>>180562456
maybe it's a nothing which is only attracted to other nothings
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>>180545661
>with 4 mental disorders
This is the new pokemon cards
>>
Current iteration of panic attack would be a good mechanic for a scout primary.
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>>180546501
Any gun can 2-3 shot a razorback sniper. Can we nerf razorback while we're at it? Make it so that they can't get overhealed such a ridiculous amount
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>>180549060
since you don't have to accept, the orange shit is more than enough imo
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>>180563405
it could replace the backscatter desu

fits the model better too
>>
new panic attack only looks good for soldier

in other words it'll finally be loved
>>
when will they make tf2 nendoroids?
>>
BasedViva is a heterosexual and will leave 4chan when 4chan no longer exists

My favorite Demoman hat is the Outta Sight
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/v/ermin faggot cutoff line:

You are not allowed to post below this line if you have less than 1000 hours:

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>implying that a reserve shooter wouldnt be great for every class
it will be great for heavy as an even more reliable sidearm than the shotgun. winding down the minigun already eats up time. the faster switch speed will make up for that.
the engineer will make good use of it as a spy busting tool, since spies are likely to be up in your face anyways.
the pyro will have no use for it because it doesnt give him free minicrits
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>>180526271
So ubersaw or vita saw?
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>>180566134
>>180565669
stop meta posting
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>>180565669
>3k hours of pubs stops someone being a /v/ermin
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>>180566134
ahahaha look at this faggot
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>>180565983
situational, and very hard to tell
if you have 0 uber and you cant land 4 hits then vitasaw is better
if you have 50 uber and you can land two hits the ubersaw is better

basically, charge at the enemy with it when you know youre going to die, or at least thats how i interret it
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>>180558709
I have the same hwnn, nice
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Are there any weapon skins that aren't disgusting?
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>>180565669
oh shit thanks for reminding me
gotta get my /v/ermin ready for combat again
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new reserve shooter
>damage scales with how much ammo you have for your primary weapon
>having a full ammo supply on your primary gives -25% damage, while if your primary is empty, you gain a 25% damage bonus on it
>-33% clip size (still 4 shots)
>can now be equipped on heavy with a sick team colored soviet paint job

y/n
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>>180566134
>>180566425
you are like a little baby, watch this
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>>180566632
absolutely n
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what does /tf2g/ think of the summer sale sticker gimmick? it's pretty odd and trivial, but it's also kinda cute imo
>>
>>180567005
Jewish tricks from valve
>>
what is meta posting?
>>
>>180566632
Too confusing. Didn't even bother reading all that text. I can say its shit though, because skimming over, i don't see faster switch speed. Faster switch speed is one of the best things you can put on a weapon.
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>>180566808
Aww how cute. He thinks he's a big boy.
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>>180558709
My spy, engi and demo loadouts need some work but they're alright.
And yes I've been told multiple times in-game that my scout looks like a faggot.
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>>180567005
it's better than the ''buy games from us to get 2 cent cards'' thing i guess

So what do you do with them anyway
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>>180552480
>some game called Loadout
RIP in fucking pieces.
It was fun as shit, even tho some of the options were severely underpowered.
Then the devs killed it because consoles
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>>180568127
lmao fuck no it was complete garbage
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>>180547262
you do realize the whole reason it got made was because of vipes, he made the concept.

there's other kamen rider items, but not that good
http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=164824961
http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=502980307

if anything you should be thanking him
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>>180568356
You could make a healing syringe gun and booby trap health packs.
and collecting that resource to put it into the minecart was pretty tense
>>
>>180568127
no, it was crap. always was
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>>180568127
I played it for a couple hundred hours, it was pretty good aside from the jump boots rocket launcher spam cancer. The best part was the blood effects and holes on your body when you were damaged.
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>JoseGonzales.2009: Blu team always wins
>builds sentry at spawn for the 3rd time in the same match
GEE I FUCKING WONDER WHY YOU DIRTY SPIC
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>>180568617
Oh god. what the fuck is this. And to think a few months ago people on /tf2g/ were saying those two sets were better than that scout set. What the fuck.

>>180555916
IF you guys really want it in, spread the set around. Show it off. Make it popular, then Valve will add it. AS for copyright, that plumber's cap is way more lawsuit worthy than this.
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>>180549060
If you alt-tab it plays a sound and the tf2 icon on the taskbar starts pulsating orange
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Anyone have or know anybody with an aussie sniper with fire horns violet? I have team shine one and want to swap effects
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>>180569646
better version
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>>180569829
doesn't look v good desu

do you know if the original/unfiltered version is around?
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do strange count transfer tools also works on strange cosmetics?
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>>180558709
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>>180569646
>>180569829
micspamming this album in pubs is peak TF2 experience
>>
>12v12
>half of the enemy team decides to go randumb loadouts or friendly
>we still lose
power of f2p retards on your team
>>
is it just me or did everyone suddenly start playing with weapons TF2 wants to nerf now?
>>
casual 6v6 when?
>>
>>180568617
Oh god, those are both fucking hideous.
>>
>>180571424
they're trying to enjoy them while they last
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>>180571698
yes, they are. spy one however is the absolute worst. not to mention that guy was also trying to claim vipes stole his idea once scout rider was uploaded. Lets not forget the scout set was actually four years in the making.
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>>180571424
It's called confirmation bias.
>>
>retard : !remove
>*SPEC* retard : this kid is fucking counter jumping
>*SPEC* retard : dont play with him

I don't understand MGE elitists.
>>
Who wants to topfrag with me drunk when i get off my m*ds?
>>
>>180572032
Oh god I remember that. Once Vipes' set was uploaded he came here screeching like an autistic monkey for a few months.
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>>180568907
but building a sentry at spawn is how to go about it.
>>
open world sandbox tf2 when
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>>180572239
>dude
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>>180572270
>e came here screeching like an autistic monkey for a few months
vipes or the guy who made the spy set?
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>>180572397
both
>>
sell me a frying pan for 1 refined
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>>180566427
ubersaw = offensive, using when you're sure you will live because if you die, attacking with it had no point and you should have used vita saw instead, rewards taking risk

vita saw = defensive, using when you're sure you will die because if you get your hits and live, you should have used ubersaw instead, rewards self defense I guess
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>>180572080
you are supposed to practice airshots, you fag
>>
>>180572397
Who do you think? The one that made the spy set.
>>180572440
No, Vipes doesn't post here. He use to, many years back. Nice guy, never namefagged or tripfagged. Don't get the hate.
>>
selling Burning TC for 1 key
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>pyro/demo changes are so terrible or incomplete that valve was too scared to mention them
>>
i give 2.33 ref
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>>180572392
is that a yes or no

also it's not tranny medication it's acne medication

no i'm not funke
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>>180572665
>dude
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>>180572665
hi funke. so you're finally coming out as transgender? took you long enough
>>
>>180572614
Youre a retard. Demo is fine, with the only things that need balancing (claidmhor) actually just need reverting. Pyro is getting a complete overhaul, which is why none of his weapons got mentioned.
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update when
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>>180572971
next summer
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>>180572553
Vipes hate is just one guy trying really hard to force him into meme status. Reminder that Vipes Hate Anon is enough of a shithead that he laughed when Vipes posted the thing about his mother having ALS.
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>>180572971
when it gets released
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Funke's new video was good, even if it was just sort of a scattered rant.
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>>180573020
I have a feeling that one guy is Ryuga_knight. he also came here shitposting when an item of vipes' got in, but not one of his.
>>
yiff
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>>180573258
He's going to be double salty because two of Vipes' things will be in the update. The Pyromancer's Performance, and something else I won't divulge yet. Being one of the devs for Team Fortress 2 has its perks. Also, that"leak" everyone was clamoring about? Fake.
>>
I hope they make another blog post with final decisions on those 21 weapons and more proposals

that's possible, right?
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>>180573487
they did say its not a finished list, so yes
>>
does anyone else's steam crash when they try to load a video? shit has been happening for months and its really fucking annoying
>>
>>180573480
>Taking obvious shitposts as real leaks
yeah you're dumb enough to be on the dev team alright
>>
>>180573768
>Watching videos via Steam
What are you doing lad?
>>
>>180573884
>look at a game
>click on the arrow when looking at screenshots
>selection screen loops back to the beginning video
>steam crashes and i have to restart
>>
are there actually any good TF2 youtubers?
>>
>>180573480
While I'm hear, I'll dispel a few more rumors.

- We don't care if you're VAC Banned, as long as it isn't for one of our games you have a fair chance at getting your contributions in.
- We do not "throw things at a dartboard" for cosmetics. Everyone pretty much has their own list of items they will accept, and we rotate. For example say, the next patch will be all items picked by John.
- We do visit /tf2g/, r/tf2, and Facepunch.
- The guy who picked The Rogue's Rabbit is no longer at Valve. Will not say if he was fired for poor decisions or he left on his own accord.
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buff reserve shooter

buff tonislav
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>>180574098
>- We don't care if you're VAC Banned, as long as it isn't for one of our games you have a fair chance at getting your contributions in.
stopped reading there
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>>180533807
well you should have been kicked desu
>>
>>180574292
i mean it's true. there's quite a few items in from vacbanned contribs. sparkwire was one, but valve removed it for reasons. so he is right after all
>>
@180574210
low-quality bait
>>
>>180574292
>>180574451
and if you don't believe me
http://www.vacbanned.com/view/detail/id/76561197988525039
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>>180574025
>click on the arrow when looking at screenshots
Hmm? shouldn't you be playing the game? loadout fags are the worst I swear
>>
>>180574610
>>>/reddit/
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>>180574610
here you didn't reply i'll help you ;)
>>180574210
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>>180574041
No.
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give iron bomber rollers
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>>180574041
tagg
>>
Why does noone ever talk about yukon, foundry or fastlane

They're pretty great honestly
>>
foundry is fun

yukon is too big and weirdly shaped

fastlane is gay
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>>180559819
why did you sell your pyro hat
why you don't appressieight your pyro
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>>180575127
Too busy talking about loadouts :^)
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>>180575127
Because no one plays those maps. I've only gotten matched into Fastlane maybe twice since Casual launched, and the last time I got matched into one of those "we're down 2 players, so let's jsut throw the match" teams. I've only played Yukon once, and no one knew the actual map, so that wasn't very fun either(dunno how you get lost on a 5CP, but people did). I've played a bit more Foundry, and that's sometimes okay, but most of the times it's one of those games where I get matched into the team that's down 4 players and have already lost a round with mid already captured.
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>>180575127
or coldfront or egypt or freight or sawmill or 5gorge or well or pipeline or any of the arena maps
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mge me shortstop shove only
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>>180575628
5gorge is no longer in the casual rotation
Egypt sucks
Coldfront wasn't fun the two times I've been matched into it on casual
I love Freight and wish it could come up more, but I can count the number of times I've played it on one hand since casual launched
>PLR
Valve doesn't like to acknowledge Arena mode.
I played Well like yesterday, wish they'd bring back ctf_well, because the 5CP version just feels wrong.
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>>180575628
>egypt
shitty chokepoint map. Doesn't hold up to todays standards.

>5gorge
prefer the normal one

>pipeline
love me some pipeline. Though the first stage sucks the third is fun.
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>>180575628
>egypt, pipeline
trash
>sawmill, well
those are pretty common tho

5gorge and coldfront are also good
freight is okay I don't like the second points/indoor area much, way too cramped
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koth_probed is a decent map aside from the ufo and reskinned pumpkin bombs, and I wish more symmetrical maps were mirrored at an angle like that
>>
What if I genuinely enjoy Egypt, but mostly for its aesthetic
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>>180576178
WE
>>
Then play Lakeside
>>
Any good European/UK community servers open during weekends? Just want to play some custom maps.
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ryuke i have a new idea for your tournaments

THE SUPER SUMO SCOUT SHORTSTOP SHOVE SUMMIT

two players are placed on a round arena with a steep cliff into a bottomless pit

theyre only allowed to use shortstop's shove function and i guess you would need something to make them not be able to use primary fire or switch weapons
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>>180576281
Honor system worked well enough for the epic wrap battle event.
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how do you create the tfclassic pyro loadout?
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>>180576226
I mean, I just like sand. Lakeside is also a good map.
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>Pyro sets you on fire
>Airblast
>Misses the Flare
>Switches back to the Degreaser and then runs you down with random crit flames

>>180526715
>Same upside
>Removed the clip size penalty
>Downside is 10 shots in reserve
yeah no
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>>180573063
>Cases suck: reason why being creators are hardly earning anything now that hats are no longer buyable in-store
Don't we have a creator in tf2g?

I know he was a part of EOTL, but has he gotten anything else in recently? I kinda want him to weigh in
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>>180577287
A_Guardian, don't know if he's online atm, he said he still gets about 10 bucks every week
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>>180577383
LOL
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/13268405
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I'm doing excellent, thanks for asking. Half an hour to go before work ends. In the mood for pizza tonight

My favorite Heavy hat is prolly the Officer's Ushanka
>>
everything this game is about tier:
>5cp

meme but super fun tier:
>medieval mode
>player destruction

good but forgotten tier:
>arena
>mann vs machine
>pass time

(can be both great and shit so it's) average tier:
>attack/defense
>king of the hill
>payload

needs better maps tier:
>capture the flag
>payload race
>special delivery
>territorial control
>whatever standin is

nothing can save it tier:
>mannpower

??? tier:
>robot desctruction
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>>180577993
standin is just koth but with more control point

it's really not that bad
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>>180559668
I am going to, I'm getting lime paint when I can.
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>>180559516
I'm going to have a buy out at 1000 keys, otherwise I might keep it.
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>>180551806
Off the top of my head there's a country song that sounds kinda like that https://youtu.be/G91KZ56mNbw
But other than that I didn't know it was an actually song, I just picked the name because it sounded nice.
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>>180560085
That is a good idea, but there is one problem. Geel owns the site and I have no trust in him.
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heavy gun

+deals a flat 75 damage per hit from any range
+no spinup
-40% slower firing speed
-75% bullets per shot
-no random crits or crit boosts
-instead of spin up you have to set up a manual turret station thing which takes 3 seconds and you can't move while firing and it takes 1.5 seconds to undeploy
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>atomizer only work when deployed

wow what the FUCK

i want to keep jumping with winger+atomizer to almost twice as high as a scout normally would
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>>180578128
I like the idea a lot, because it actually requires teamwork, but the way the map plays out due to its design is a mess

in comp it just boils down to running back and forth and is just annoying to play for the most part and pubs are always total mess even as for pubs, because everyone is everywhere and there is barely any tactics involved due to the chaos

as much as I like the concept, it's just bad and same goes to hydro and doomsday
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>>180579658
Just complete the set and pick the soda popper then.
>minicrits while airborne
>15% damage penalty
>40 damage a swing
for what fucking purpose
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How do we fix matchmaking?

The game likes to throw you into matches that are already lost. If you turn the game around, the players on the enemy team start leaving.
Nobody wants to stay in a match when they can just hop into another. The game tries to rectify this by asking the good players on the winning team to join the losing team.
Nobody wants to do that either, because when they finally get a good match, they're almost always asked to give up roflstomping.
The extra experience you get for autobalancing is practically negligible compared to the xp you would get from staying in your comfy topfragging position.
And even if the xp you got was enough to compensate, xp means fucking nothing in this game.

As much as I would bitch about forced autobalance, it did make sure teams were somewhat even.
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>>180579910
Abandon penalties.
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>>180579852
>soda popper
um excuse me jimbo but i want to actually KILL people with my scatterKILLgun

its not like i ever use bat in combat (neither with pistol cuz im not bad)
>>
Remember those days you could get a single digit ping?
>>
"minicrit while X" is just as bad as a pro as "cant crit" as a con
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>>180580050
no

15-25 is pretty common even now though
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>>180577993
>pass time
>good
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ok now that everything has settled down and the split is secure why dont we post some recent screenshots.
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>>180579962
people didn't like those. Maybe do it a la cod/overwatch where doing it 3-4 times in the past hour penalizes you instead of immediately

>>180580327
I live in Eastern US, and cp games usually get me 100+ ping. I can get 34 ping 2fort games though.
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>>180580530
easy to mow down scouts everywhere, what's not to like?
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>>180577287
There are a couple people that hang out here that make stuff.
GetGrenade pops to mind.
Somebody with shark in their name.
Me.

And yes, I just got the woolen warmer in.
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>>180580536
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>>180569646
I know a guy, I traded with him recently.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198121759588
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>>180577203
But what about the switch speed not being there?
>>
why do the le epic pubstompers / streamers / entry level comp players always team stack on pl_upward specifically
>>
>So bad he thinks everyone with a teensy bit of team coordination is a pre-made stack
>Playing Baddieward
>>
2-4 isn't a team stack. Now 6-12. That's a team stack

Playing with friends is fun. With or against them
>>
when will people understand that a lenny bind is pretty much just the same as taunting except doesnt make you a static target
>>
who are you quoting
>>
>>180580546
>I live in a third world country
say no more
>>
literally every country except the united states of america is third world at this point
>>
>>180540849
I see "anglesnapping" on there, and after looking that up it seems like that's pretty much exactly predictive mouse movement, as opposed to raw mouse input. So wouldn't it be worse?
>>
>>180583431
>predictive mouse movement
>worse
>>
Damn, it feels good to be an American living in the greatest state and city of them all

My favorite Soldier hat is ..shit. Iunno, to be honest. Mine is always wearing a Black Max's. I like Sergeant's Drill Hat, I guess
>>
>>180575127
Foundry is THE map that demonstrates that a 5cp is only as open as it's tightest chokepoint.
Fastlane has a miserably long last point cap time.
Yukon is underrated.
>>
>>180577203
>Flaregun
>Not a shotgun

Stop playing pubs and join a plat hl team you fuck
>>
>>180583504
Yes. Literally everything I have seen says to use raw mouse input and nothing else.
>>
>>180576178
It's a better dustbowl.
>>
>NYC
>Greatest City
I've been there and it's fucking crowded as shit, how the fuck do you commute
>>
subways usually
>>
if you own a car in new york city you're a fucking retard
>>
>>180583763
They're all secretly spiderman and swing between thr buildings
>>
Buses, usually

Is that really your one complaint about the city? That's like me going to the Pacific Ocean and complaining about it being wet
>>
>>180583610
it can be useful for sniping. If you move your mouse horizontally you usually don't want it to move vertically.
>>
if you live in new york city you're a fucking retard
>>
>he cant afford a car in new fucking york
lol?
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>>180580536
ok
>>
reminder soldier has always been a defense class since quake tf
>>
I can afford a car. But I live in Brooklyn. Why would I need a car?
>>
>>180584291
how so
>>
Everything's overpriced too. Defend paying $3 for a bottle of water when I can get one at my costco for 25 cents. I will admit though there's good pizza there.
did you get anything from the summer sale btw
>>
\o/
/o/
<o/
>>
stop talking about yourself or nyc and talk about tf2 instead on this team fortress 2 general
>>
bitch we hardly ever talk about tf2 here
>>
<o√
>>
>we

you mean "I", right?
>>
Buying 1 bottle is a mistake. We can usually get a 24 pack for $9 or something. Of course the pizza is good here. It's excellent. It's Pizza and Bagel heaven out here
Nah, not interested in the games they've got to offer. I don't play many other video games in the first place anyway

Nah, he meant we. This game needs an update for it to be non-stop TF2 talk. Not just patch notes
>>
pyro flaregun

the yiffinator
+fires bad dragon dildos
+on hit: give enemy STD for 5 seconds. STD applies mark for death, mad milk & bleed.
-50% afterburn duration
-does not crit burning targets
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>he needs a reason to talk about tf2 other than it existing
how to spot bads
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>>180584462
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>$9 for a 24 pack of water

dude it's like $2 for that here LOL
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>>180575408
The hat I traded for was for a class I played more, was rarer, and had more value on it. In the future im gonna pick up another respite, but probably not time warp. sorry vibi
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Yeah, lemme post my Medic for the 135nd time instead. You right, you right

What 6st world country sells a 24 pack for $2??
>>
>Buying water
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>
Why is everyone talking to himself itt?
>>
>>180586492
some states have really shitty water quality, such as california
>>
My family does. I buy gallons of Arizona half and half instead

My favorite Spy hat is that French looking one with the brush on the side
>>
>living in a third-world country
>>
>>180585762
nibba i seen you on railbait
>>
>>180584462
Just Reflex and Q3A. They've been on my buy list for ages, and i got both of em for less than 10 bucks
>>
>Drinking the liquid corn jew
I'll never understand. You do realize this is why you're fat, right?
>>
>>180587170
Hi Slatdork!
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>join cp_proccess match
>oh boy it's time to frag
>team's lost first round
>That's alright, i'm here now
>first to mid
>kill a direct hit soldier
>out of fucking nowhere it's a scout using the shortstop blatantly hacking
>disconnect
Yeah, I can't even fix this.
>>
>>180587317
report and move on. ask the enemy team to vote kick
>>
>>180587317
what if he could track
it's really easy to track soldiers especially when when they're jumping
>>
>>180587302
Who?
>>
>>180587985
Slabcork
>>
>3v3 koth because noone's joining
>it's kind of fun
>faggot builds sentry gun

why do this
what do you get out of it
>>
>>180588278
just go demo
hes still fun to play and is a team player and removes any kind of nest ezpz
>>
>>180587985
SortYork
>>
>>180588278
just go scout and deal with his ass?
>>
>>180587669
I said blatantly for a reason.

He was spinning all around as he ran through the map.
Also, I was playing scout.
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>>180588182
Still don't know who that is.
>>
Nah, I'm chubby because I can't contain all these blessings and amazingness in a small and skinny body. Plus, I really liked McDonald's breakfasts as a kid

My favorite all class hat from Team Fortress 2 is the Brown Bomber. Max's is a runner up
>>
>>180588474
Sodium chloride pig meat
>>
>>180588581
Okay.
>>
I used to buy bottled water but then I just bought a filtered dispenser to keep in the fridge. Cold, clean water. Plus I get to make shitty jokes about ERECTIN' A DISPENSER
>>
gottem
>>
>he actually masturbates
>he doesn't look at sexytime images and retain the erection as long as possible because it feels good
>he doesn't release his sperm in wet dreams like God intended

lmoa
>>
are you guys eu or na
>>
>Actions I chose as a kid reflect my continued weight gain today
>I'm fat because I'm blessed
Average American, everyone.

>>180588841
This, if your water is shit, just get a filter. It'll come out cheaper in the long run.
>>
>>180575809
coldfront is alright and 5CP well is much better than CTF just because that one is CTF really
>>
>>180589280
First time we played Coldfront we got rolled.
Second time around it stalemated twice in a row because the enemy just stacked sentries on last, and at that point the round had been over an hour long so I ended up disconnecting before we could play a third round.
>>
>>180589226
what if you filter bottled water?
>>
bottled water just tastes better than tap or filtered water

don't give me that shit about placebos i know damn fucking well it does
>>
>>180526271
>list of good comm servers
>all custom game shit
>>
dasani and perrier are great
fiji is just meme tapwater that's bottled
>>
>living in a third-world shithole
>>
>Plastic tastes better than filtered water
hmmm
Also, Dasani is the same shit as tap water, get that outta here.
>>
>>180588474
>>180588681
I'm saltpork, damn it! How hard do I have to h*ckpost for you to get it? Am I still a literal who?
>>
>>180590069
Okay SiltMork.
>>
Yeah, pretty much.

And Dasani's still more refreshing than tap or Arrowhead.
Arrowhead is THE worst.
>>
>>180590025
>Not getting the P A T R I C I A N Kirkland Signature

baka desu kohai
>>
i can understand talking about different brands of soda because of their different flavors but this literally water
whats there to compare, bottle shape? price tag?
>>
>not buying 24 packs of store brand water for $1
>>
imagine living in such a poor country you literally can't acquire drinkable water without leaving the house
>>
Some bottled water is basically glorified tap and has a lot of the same chemicals that make tap water undesireable. Others use shit tier plastic that leaches the taste into the water. There's a lot of nuances in the bottled water world.

>>180590487
At that point you're just paying for plastic and shipping costs.
>>
>>180590487
True god-patrician taste.
>>
>>180590546
https://www.amazon.com/slp/bottled-water/vbsqwmx7xv9s4j5
>>
does someone have that webm of comparing tf2 rocket jumping to overwatch rocket jumping?
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>>180590732
>people actually buy water on the internet
>people pay shipping costs and are willing to wait several days for water to come
>people are this stupid
>>
>>180590806
you mean tf2 rocket jumping compared to the new mantreads?
>>
>>180590876
no, I mean the webm showing the soldier jumping from spawn to badlands spire, and then showing pharah boosting with conc blast and jetpack boost
>>
>not being autistic enough to buy each bottle of water being different brand until you stack up like 30 so you can't keep empty bottles on top of your fridge anymore so you have to trash them and start over
>>
>>180590872
>there's countries that don't have free on-date shipping and arrival
Might as-well just start shitting in the streets at that point

>>180590942
>no, I mean the webm showing the soldier jumping from spawn to badlands spire, and then showing pharah boosting with conc blast and jetpack boost
Sounds like you're describing the new mantreads here.
>>
>>180590872
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonFresh/b?ie=UTF8&node=10329849011
You know how in those satirical dystopian futuristic movies or whatever there's some giant huge megacorporation that has invaded every aspect of people's lives and is usually supposed to be Wal-mart? Well surprise, we live in that future and it is not Wal-mart, it is Amazon.
>>
>>180590806
here you go
>>
how does tf2 screenshots know what player it is?
>>
>>180591209
Nice link, dummy.
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>>180591209
>a fucking tumblr link
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>>180591306
>>180591343

sorry, I don't really know how that got there.
>>
dumb tranny
>>
>team loses
>disconnect from server before i get critraped

heh... better luck next time buckos..
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>>180584462
just get a gallon of water for 30 cents at one of those water vending machine things.
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>>180591209
>>180591427

lmao is that really you?
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>>180591270
So basically the new mantreads
>>
>>180591594

yes
>>
Daily reminder that manntreads are a crutch.
>>
>>180591594

qt
>>
>>180591814
daily reminder that they don't make rocket jumping easier, they make rocket jumping outcomes more dependent on the user and raise the skill ceiling
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>Backwards Ballcap
>Fast Learner
What other misc. should I get for my scout, guys?
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>>180591814
Reminder that eyes are a crutch. If you have to see where you're going, you don't know the map well enough and are a certified shitter
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>>180592610
Hot heels
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>>180591726
pls draw more of my fetish and less of the stuff that isnt my fetish
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>>180592642
>>180592513
>Mantreads babbies trying to justify their crutch
lmao i bet you cant even beat jump_beef
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>>180591939

oh me? oh my

>>180592714

And what is your fetish exactly?

If you want more of something you can always just commission more of it
>>
180592759
>He didn't read my post
>>
http://imgur.com/gallery/WqxKL
lol spy mains are whining over nothing
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daily reminder that the best hat on tf2 is the skullcap
>>
Daily reminder that the TF2 team is so out of touch they originally named the Dead Head the Skullcap despite it already being in-game and thus prevented people from searching for it via SCM.
>>
>>180591524
>30 cents
Hah, I only pay 25 cents a gallon.
>>
>>180553684
the problem is engie is that he relies on an automatic gun, which kills you only if you're fucking stupid and as long as you aren't you can avoid damage from it altogether

yes, engie is underpowered
>>
>This class that excels in area denial and choke holding is underpowered because I said so
>>
>>180589532
get a load of this casual
>>
heavy secondary

the soviet skull-cap
+all full critical hits taken become mini-crits
+getting shot in the head reflects bullet back at attacker for 50% base damage
+1 capture rate on wearer
-all mini-crits taken become full critical hits
>>
>>180592759
with cranked up air control it's much easier to make mistakes, you literally have to be more precise to be good

you have no fucking idea what you're talking about, basically
>>
>>180553684
>almost as mobile as scout
only if you're talking getting-around-the-map
engi gets raped in a fight because he can't dodge like scout can
>>
>>180594254
yes helo im gun
>>
>>180593365
this nerf isn't good for anyone, because there's still possibility you will be shot straight across the map except also by players who don't even deserve it
>>
>>180594704
thats a general complaint, not a complaint only from spy mains
>>
Pyro is just a terrible designed class. It doesn't matter if it's w+m1 is just brainless or reflecting everything on sight like an autist, which is just cancer and unfun to play against. The update should just remove this failure
>>
Sincerely, a Soldier shitter who got reflected and destroyed
>>
this
>>
I don't want to equip the shotgun just because someone decides to play the clown class
>>
I agree with Viva with this one, You sound like you just got dominated Bilbo baggins.
>>
>Not shotgunning scouts all day
lol enjoy being meatshot
>>
>not out-shotgunning soldiers as pyro

haha faggot can't even switch weapons in a fifth of a second
>>
So have someone else pick him off, you dumb fuck. Jump away, have him follow you, and have a Sentry or Sniper shit on him. Or just don't be so predictable with your shots

Dumb fuck
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>soldier main can't kill someone by missing them twice
>immediately needs to vent
>>
Rocketjumping is fun and pubs never have any medics, that's suicide to go shotgun
>>
So bring along a Medic friend, you dumb fuck
>>
>>180595223
>2 meatshots
>soldier is still alive
>2 meatshots
>pyro dies
hmmmmmmmmmmm
>>
>So bad at the game he can't rocketjump without a medic
lmao
just stop embarrassing yourself lad
>>
Just pay a medic 2 scrap to pocket you for 30 minutes. Simple.
>>
>>180595565
>burn for a third of a second
>switch to reserve shooter
>instagib before taking 100 damage from pitiful splash damage

hmmmmmmmmmm
>>
>>180595787
>reserve shitter minishits on burning players
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>
>>180595920
>implying airblast takes literally any time at all to fire off
>even needing the mini crits to frag a shit pick class like soldier instead of just the switch speed

:hmmmmmmmmm yes hmm:
>>
great thread
>>
Thank you, what a kind post anon. You're a nice guy.
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r8?
>>
At least a pyro that finds m2 on his mouse is rare
>>
It's bad. Go buy yourself some oranges, son.
>>
>>180596314
Should add a marxman.
>>
>>180596314
make it more silly if you want to go silly, lurker's leather's is fine and all at least it's not cringey like a blood banker or something >>180596545
this
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OKAY SHITHEADS!
Should I use mat_phong 0 or r_rimlight 0?
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>>180598002
rimlight 0, definitely.
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Hefty raffle spotted, all this to one winner
https://scrap.tf/raffles/DXYIE0
>>
>>180598717
speaking of which whatever happened to that definitely not a honeypot raffle
>>
>>180598841
I entered, got an item, and I'm still not banned
>>
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how the
>>
>>180598841
Was never a honeypot, guy was just really new to /tf2g/. He added me to give me some extra ref and I'm still not banned.
>>
>>180598994
Its an old mag server.
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Should I just sell this and get a stock strange pistol instead
I don't even use it that much
>>
>>180599719
>Gaudy trash
Yes. Only good pistol skin is the local hero.
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>>180598841
Got a gifted carbine from some dude called jim.
Not banned.
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>>180598717
>The comments complaining about it being one winner
I mean, on one hand I know they're children, but I still can't help but be angry and whoever raised their children to be such needy leeches.
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i wish there was this payload map that was extremely stalematey and it would basically be the 2fort or turbine of payload maps and could last basically forever
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>>180600979
why
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>>180600979
Look around the work shop, I forget what it's called but there's a map where it's kike tug of war with the cart. Meaning anybody can push it and the objective is to push into the other teams base.
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>>180600979

Hightower when someone puts a sentry in the uphill bit.
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>>180601373
Huh my phone autocorrected kind of into kike, think I'll go outside and walk for a bit.
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I wonder if its possible to make a well balanced 6v6 ctf map if you took out cap crits?
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>>180601373
plr_waste
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grenade idea:
accelerating grenades

first it comes out really slow but then it accelerates and flies really fucking fast and at max speed it explodes on impact

or maybe heavy should have a minigun with projectiles that work like that
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>>180601576
Cap crits is only part of the issue with CTF. The problem is that the maps are designed with engineer turtling in mind, thus it's possible for a decent engineer to just sit around near the intel and prevent the entire game from moving forward. If a single engineer can stalemate an entire 12v12 game, imagine how bad it must get in 6v6. The entire game mode is just bad for serious gameplay, and I will never forgive the TF Team for thinking stock Turbine was even remotely passable as a competitive map.
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>>180600979
>I wish there was a bad payload map
that's frontier
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>>180600979
plr_nightline
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>>180602464
uh
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remove engineer
nerf scout to compensate
wow I just saved tf2
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>>180602180
So a map like double cross would probably make a better map for that sort of thing then? Or would maybe moving the place you put the enemy intel away from the place the enemy could take yours could help stop with turtling?
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>>180602761
No, remove soldier. Problem solved.
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>>180600979

No, please. I'm already uncomfortable at the fact I've been in so many payload games lately where the attacking team just dicks around killing red until the last 30 seconds is when they FINALLY DECIDE to push the cart.
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>>180600979
Hightower
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>>180604387
Highertower
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>>180601373
the one with the dog bread cart?
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Guess how hard i'm about to meme

captcha: brick scotland
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Can you guys solve the riddle to this tf2 item raffle? I've been looking at it for an hour and it's driving me fucking crazy.
Getting it right basically guarantees you get a reward since its multiple viewers and there are a ton of items, can somebody help me?

https://scrap.tf/raffles/J5NSYQ
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>>180605162
multiple winners not multiple viewers shit
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nice try geel
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>>180605162
well post the riddle fucktard
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>>180605162
>those shit prizes
yeah not worth it. if someone is going to lock garbage behind a fucking puzzle they can keep it for all i care. i'm not even looking at the puzzle.
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>>180605309
its in the link i posted silly, above the raffle
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i see shitloads of good looking maps in the workshop and you cant help but wonder why theres so many of them yet theres 0 servers that run them
why the fuck is this community so braindead and brainwashed to play the same trading maps, same orange maps, and same slender maps over and over and over?
why are there no servers with dedicated communities that like to play on those quality maps? where are they?
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guess you don't need help huh
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>>180606224
He doesn't but I, do. The dude posted something that looks like a quote from a game. You're supposed to come up with this girl's name: Xxx Xxxx. You're a 'rider' amd you're looking for this kid. Not 11, but still a kid. I was thinking the last of us, but that didn't work
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looking for good lightwarps
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>>180605162
>>180606532
Holy shit you're both retarded. Took me a 5 minute google search

fuck off
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>>180606718
I have one. Very subtle but makes a big difference
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Why isnt the Red Tape Recorder getting any nerfs?
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>>180606718
http://gamebanana.com/skins/92782
One of the best lightwarps, better than vanilla.
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because its pretty shit
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>>180607445
>A lightwarp that makes TF2 look more cinematic by making the shadows softer
>cinematic
I bet you're one of the faggots that think HL2 Cinematic Mod makes HL2 look better.
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>>180606179
I blame valve giving community servers the way side a bit. Kinda wish they had more priority.
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>>180605162

It's not that hard Todd

Hint, the answer starts with a 'The'
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>>180608287

will u be my gf?
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>>180608461

I'm not good gf material.
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>>180608461
*bf
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it is time
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>>180608695

I said gf and meant it
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>>180608794
gfs dont have penises
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>>180608786
for a mistake
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>>180608786
nice
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>>180558709
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>>180608868

Lucky
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>>180608680
nudes pls
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again
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>>180608998
nice (also)
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>>180558709
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>>180558709
Yeah

>>180608892
Why is your sniper so Australian?
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>>180558709
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>>180608680

this pic >>180591594 tells me the opposite, how old are you again?
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rafelell when
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>>180609331

I'm 26
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>>180609694
Huh, we're the same age. Also, stop giving Fagetta (You)s.
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>>180609785

who?
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>>180609879
Trap obsessed shitposter.
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>kill airblasting pyro faggot with my shotgun

SONO CHI NO SADAME
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>>180594038
>he doesn't use mini sentries
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>>180610198
i don't know where you came from, but you have to go back
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>>180610486
He's clearly /v/.
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Europe here. Just woke up. Is it a good idea to play a game of casual right now considering it's 5am?
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>Is it a good idea to play a game of casual
no
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>Playing TF2

Lmao
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>ctrl+f (you)
>1 of 71

too easy guys
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>>180610235
mini sentries are useless annoying shit though, against experienced players it's even harder to get kills with them because everyone aims at them the instant they see them
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Wtf? Did I just go from level 50 to level 20?
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>change name to "the refugee experience"
>caberknight 24/7
>macro set up to C 1

someone give me a good image that'll fit on a sign to "educate the non islamics"
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>>180611721
original and funny like reddit
>>
Maybe if you were visiting a terrible subreddit. That's more like /b/ tier humor, though
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today viva was not a fag

it was a good day
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stop samefagging v*va
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That's every day, though
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>>180611301
And now I'm level 60?
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>>180611859
Not your safe space. I bet you get triggered over cartoon ponies as well
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>>180611220
OK let me help you out then.
>place mini sentry some place where it can't be spotted/sniped from a mile
>stand in range
>shoot opponents with primary at the same time mini sentry does
If they shoot at your sentry then that's just more free shots you get off on them without taking damage.
Now go and main Engie in pubs for the rest of your life.
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>my rank keeps resetting back to level 89
why? I was 91 this morning
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I see what you morons are trying to do. You're not gonna make me launch TF2 up
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>>180613926
its a visual glitch, you are stil level 91 in the system and it should fix itself as you play
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>>180613003
it doesnt matter where you place your sentry once theres a demo on the enemy team with a grenade launcher
a good demo literally deletes it on sight before it can even aim

minisentry needs a buff to at least 120 health or instant turning speed, right now its ridiculously easy to get rid of one and the engineer who build it
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The Quake-esque firing sound and explosion impact noise on "The Original" rocket launcher drone on for way too long and drown out almost everything else. It's impossible to determine exactly when the Soldier fired it by ear alone, or how far away he is. This makes it significantly harder to predict when you should and shouldn't travel down a choke point, and makes reflecting blind-fired projectiles as Pyro that much harder. Please fix this or give us an option to replace said sounds with those of the default rocket launcher as a clientside preference. Thank you.
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>reduce spys backstab radius by 15 degrees
how much do you think this'll reduce facestabs by?
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>>180615182
by 15 degrees
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i accidentally ejaculated on my pillow and it says spot clean only

how do i get sperm out of a pillow
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Lick it
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just lick it off
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q3a gl when
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>>180615796
>>180615801
>2 seconds
/vg/ - Video Game Generals
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why is this general so fucking gay though
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>>180530194
Reported for autism, I wish I could find this child in the real world and just beat the fuck out him
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>>180615182
>facestabs
Literally not a thing
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>>180616151
that's not healthy anon. You might have autism yourself
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>>180616087
>9 out of 9 playable characters are male
take a wild guess
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>>180615182
it wont
facestabs often happen because of height variance
all it will do is infuriate the already angry spy babies because "spy's main mechanic is getting nerfed wtf xdknlkjgslkjd" and it will be deemed "the worst tf2 update ever" by reddit and steam community

spy just needs better algorithms to determine backstabs other than the three angles it currently uses
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>>180616981
overwatch has plenty of females but that doesnt explain the blatant raging cocksuckers in that general
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But where did the massive surge of new cone from. Please give me an unbiased answer I want to know where all of you came from and I will not get mad if you tell me the truth.
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what
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Damn, where did I come from? Iunno, I guess I wasn't a fan of /v/, so I came for a place to find out more about Team Fortress 2. Lurked for a whole year, then I started posting here in bad ol' tf2g
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i came by to talk about the pre-update and kinda stayed i guess

i'm not new tho just been gone for a while
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i came here because i got banned from spuf and now spuf doesn't even exist and subspuf is on life support and steam discussions are like special ed and reddit is reddit
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>>180618213
go to facepunch
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>still no ability to have favorite map presets depending on class
>still no ranking dependant on class
>>
>still no 10th, 11th & 12th classes to fill needed niches
>>
i used to use reddit but then i realized what a shithole of pyromains it is and how many shitty opinions that place has so i abandoned it
people only cared for "fun" and had no real experience in anything besides pubs
this place at least has had a few compfags so its fun to at least get some serious discussion every now and then
shitposting is just the same but at least people are laid back here and are aware of their shitposts
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>>180618490
what niches
what do you suggest
3 classes is a lot
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I've been here a while. Just now started to try and gain attention and friends to fr*g with
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>>180618728
energy weapons suppression guy that replaces pybro once pyro is fixed and becomes a frag class

port of tfc combat medic

guard dog
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>>180619280
>energy weapons suppression guy
not sure what you were trying to get at but honestly just give medic the short circuit
also un-nerf the short circuit please
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>>180619280
needs more description

confusing

dumb
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requesting herms
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>>180619926
gotchu senpai
>>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

i see them staring back at me they know my name
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Will the update make pyro not a joke in 6s?
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Spy needs a gun that gives him like +5 health on a hit. Something to replace those etranger situations
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>>180609061
I unboxed a strange one yesterday

All class crates are one helluva drug
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>>180621014
>those etranger situations
????
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>>180616698
>Playing half-knight
>See Spy
>Right click at him
>Spy is bouncing off my shield and I'm about to smash him with my crit sword
>He swings his melee and backstabs me
>Spy mains will defend this
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>>180621440
>play knight
stop playing a worse spy

>>180621187
If you've got like a full deadringer but you know your DR cloak won't save you. Could be nice to have a gun that rewards your aim with small healing. It would genuinely be a nice utility to have
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>>180621649
I said half knight.

So better spy.
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>>180621782
>loses to the most underpowered class bar pyro: spy
>So better spy.
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Okay, barring our host server still being down or me being out of town on the day this is the current date and time of our next event.

July Second, at 7pm EST.

As always with these events it's free to enter and prizes if you win, place, or show the final. If you get the best point total (from reaching checkpoints first) but don't win your heat you get to top the loserboard from your tier.
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anyone know how to port weapon mods?

http://gamebanana.com/skins/102707

this says it's for the eyelander but it shows up on the skullcutter instead
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>>180621649
I can see what you're talking about but on the other hand you got caught out with no health and whoever did it deserves the kill
>>180622926
just change the file names my dude
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>>180622926
There are two versions in the rar, one for replacing the axe and one for replacing the claymore. Pick the right one and drag it to your custom folder.
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>>180623047
I would if I had any fucking clue what to rename it to desu

even after looking at the folders in gcfscape I don't know
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>>180623167
oh fuck I'm a dickhead

thx babe
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>>180623047
>I can see what you're talking about but on the other hand you got caught out with no health and whoever did it deserves the kill
You might think that. But there's plenty of times were the opponent doesn't deserve the kill. Besides, it would be a sidegrade to just headshotting them with amby, or the extra cloak an etranger gives you. I think it would be fun to play around with personally
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>Adds +50 max health for 30 seconds
>Moving or jumping while eating will stop it, but still deplete the food meter.
>Eat to gain up to 100 health. Fully eating the Chocolate remove Debuffs
>Alt-fire: Share chocolate with a friend (Medium Health Kit)
>>
rank class mains by penis size

soldier - penis is 1 inch erect and is completely obscured by pubic fat unless erect
scout - 2 inches erect
heavy - 3 inch chode that is the same length flaccid as it is erect
engineer - 3 inches flaccid 5 inches erect, really skinny
sniper - 5 inches, permanently flaccid
spy - 2cm flaccid 6 inches erect
demoman - 8 inch BBC
pyro - 4 inches when sheathed by fur, 14 inch prehensile tentacle penis / pseudopenis when erect. tentacle dick is mountable.
medic - vagina
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>>180623367
it's already a direct upgrade to sandvich since you can use it between encounters
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>>180622809
Every class has fallen victim to the curse that is TF2's melee hitreg, I was just giving a more extreme example.
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>>180623398
>8 inches
>Big

You a comedian? Cause that's funny.
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>>180623560
dumb size queen
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>>180623560
found the soldier main
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>>180623398
>scout/heavy dual
>spy dick is literally me
sure I guess
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>>180623168
just download another mod which replaces the weapon you want and use it as reference
>>180623345
with the stats you've propose I can't imagine it ever being used as anything more than '''gotta make sure i don't die while my DR gets triggered'' which is p gay desu
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>>180623971
>with the stats you've propose
It also deals damage, mind you. I'm not claiming I should be in charge of balancing.
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Store bought community items should have a special quality. Something like "Supportive," in reference of how your giving more money to the content creators you like. It would give store bought items at least some minimal level of value.
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3 new classes

>electrician - alternate engineer
150 hp/pyro speed
primary - lightning rifle
20 magazine gun that has accuracy slightly lower than the shotgun, has 60 ammo in reserve
doesnt shoot in automatic mode, but shoots faster than shotgun

secondary - taser pistol
10 mag size
its damage is comparable to the pistol but it has better fall off damage
fires the same way as the lightning gun, semi auto, faster fire rate

melee - wrench but with sciencey doohickeys on it

he can set up shield projectors that function like mvm shield but are smaller and round
they have 300 health, and take damage just like buildings
allies can shoot through them, enemies damage them, but still can walk through them
you cannot set up two projectors near eachother, only behind
they take time to setup

he can build hoppers, they act like small bounce pads that shoot you mostly horizontally and quite far
you have to stand on one for a bit before it activates
he can also build dispensers
his buildings can be sapped
he can repair engineer's buildings and vice versa

>commando - solly/demo mix
225 hp/slower soldier speed
primary - rpg
shoot arced projectiles that explodes in impact, has clip size of 3, speed of liberty launcher

secondary - flak shotgun
stats identical to shotgun except it shoots 6 projectiles instead of 10, not hitscan
projectile damage is 10 so damage is identical
benefit is that projectiles explode and deal damage even if you miss
drawback is that its not hitscan

melee - his boot

>mender - alternate medic
175 hp/pyro speed
primary - over/under shotgun
functions a lot like the fan but is more accurate

secondary - health kit with 10 second recharge time, can use on self to recover health or throw it

thrown down kit heals teammates 66% of their health and gives them a short health regen

it poisons enemies with DoT like bleed, and they receive 25% more damage from other sources
kits are team colored

melee - oversized scalpel

would you play them? why or why not?
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>>180624261
Just play the god damn game.
>>
the glock
+on hit: generates an explosion equal to bullet damage
+no damage falloff or ramp-up over range, no splash damage falloff
+basically 15 bullet damage + 15 explosive damage to directly hit enemies and just the 15 explosive damage to adjacent enemies.
-50% clip size
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the glock
+on fire: explodes and deals 50 area damage
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>>180624745
>new classes
stopped reading there
>>
>

stopped reading there
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>>180625704
>retard who keeps new class pasta is also no post number newfag
wow who woulda thunk it
>>
https://strawpoll.com/2dy28yr
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who are you quoting
>>
>>180617058
>February 24, 2009 Patch (Scout Update)
>Changed backstab handling to fix facestabs.
>[Undocumented] Reduced stab radius to 160 degrees. Removed quickbackstabs and thus reduced the Spy's backstab range
>>>>>>>>>>>>(Has since been reverted).
>Made backstabs quicker.


currently this is up to date
>A backstab will trigger as long as the Spy is anywhere within a 180° angle behind the enemy, utilizing the enemy's current aiming direction as straight forwards.

they ""fixed"" shoulder stabs by reducing the cone in 09
then reverted it back to 180 b/c valve fucking over everyone again
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>>180626535
would be helpful if you put some links to them, cause im sure as hell not going to search them out
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>>180626550
I dunno, why are you talking to yourself
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>>180626625
99% of all my knife kills are backstabs. It's such a minor thing
>>
yiff
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>>180626732
well no shit they are

>new goal in life
>learn to main the butterknife spy
>i shall become the bane of UK

you can "back"stab someone by jamming a plastic fork in someones shoulder right now as spy

reducing the cone of a valid backstab reduces the chance to get facestabbed b/c of shitty network prediction giving bs kills
WHILE increasing the skill ceiling AND floor of spy
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>>180626535
I'll be slightly asspained if the lounger gets in because I was starting work on a rancho type taunt for sniper too
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>>180626972
>facestab
No such thing. You can keep blaming the netcode for something that, while may not be intentional, is very much dependent on the skill of both players in question. If you're good you'll never get 'facestabbed'. Or even 1v1 melee vs. another spy.
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spy fix

increased knife base damage to 50
reduced backstab radius to 150°
kept 180° angle for knife raise animation
hits that fall in the 180° bracket but not the 150° one will deal critical hits instead of insant kills
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>>180627059
>No such thing.

>The angle required for a backstab is based on the direction the victim is looking; however, all players have models whose normal stance has their backs rotated to the left slightly, due to the way they carry their respective weapons (this is most prominent with Heavies). This means that at certain angles you appear to be stabbing your target in the back, when in fact you are not inside the 180 degree angle for backstabs. Equally, there are valid backstab positions which appear to have you stabbing slightly into the front of your victim. These hit-box positions can be determined by the shoulders of the character models.

> Equally, there are valid backstab positions which appear to have you stabbing slightly into the front of your victim.
>no such thing
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>>180627346
>.t I suck
They should change the viewmodel thing though. But mostly how it favors left handed viewmodels
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>>180627415
>Due to an in-game glitch, a stab that has appeared to have occurred from the front can sometimes be rendered as a backstab.
>Known more commonly as a facestab, these kills are now mostly the result of lag compensation by the game engine itself. Prior to many game patches, facestabs were more common due to bugs in the way the game detects a backstab. Facestabs take two forms: the "valid" stab and the "true" facestab. Most of what the recipient sees as a facestab is usually either a cornerstab or a sidestab, where on the Spy's screen, he sees it as attacking the target's back, but due to lag, the target sees the Spy attacking from the front. A valid facestab works as intended by the developers, making correct use of lag compensation.

>In a true facestab, the Spy appears to be attacking an enemy from the front on both players' screens, but lag compensation results in it being registered as a backstab. This is considered a bug.
>No such thing.

>You can also perform a facestab when you are running directly at an enemy, while the enemy is running back on himself, this is because the hit-box of a player lags behind a little bit while moving back.
>No such thing.
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>hear *click* and see a backstab icon in kill feed
>turn around and stare spy in the eyes as i shoot at him
>he raises his knife at a downward angle and backstabs my collar bone

yeah haha facestabs don't exist spy is perfect haha
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>>180627595
Ah, the lag thing? No such issue when playing on normal servers. I've never had issue getting on a server with good ping. This isn't a real issue since you should never play on laggy servers to begin with. I mean. I never even considered you talking about that. Why are you complaining about being laggy? You might as-well complain about headshots and warping at that point, or walking slower than your walking speed.

>>180627682
>I don't know how to handle spies
replays or it didn't happen
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>>180627682
Really really long arms
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>>180627792
working
as
intended
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i really hope all spy mains get savagely raped by elephants until their delusions about

1. spy being viable
2. spy taking skill

are broken
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>>180627970
>pyro update hits
>backstab radius is reduced to 90 degrees
>DR is nerfed
>amby nerfed

>mfw none of this happens because spy mains cried harder than when demo mains when stickybombs get nerfed
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>>180627970
no spy main thinks spy is viable. No adult male thinks tf2 takes skill.
>>
skilled classes that require map awareness to do well: pyro heavy engineer
generally okay classes: demoman medic sniper
satan's unholy trio of shit pick classes: scout soldier spy
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>>180628112
>implying spies don't have a point
>implying demoman takes skill
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>>180628360
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>>180628113
adult males don't play spy
unless they are manchildren in which case they don't really count as adults
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>>180629429
so why are you complaining about a class that clearly isn't viable and only played by children?
>>
dear valve please add 4th cosmetic slot so i can add rail spikes to my pyro and take my furfag loadout to the next level
>>
>>180629540
where do you see me complain about spy
this is my first post in the last few hundred posts itt
>>
>>180630514
couldn't you have said something more intelligent then?
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>>180630561
no i just woke up
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>>180630649
>>180630649
>>180630649
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>>180630613
looks like you're ready for round 2 big guy!
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>>180630659
Moving
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>>180614019
I agree that it needs a buff but also they need to make it so it costs more than 100 metal, maybe 120 or so

right now if engie places it stupidly and lets it get destroyed in a split second he basically gets a wild card to place another one, literally 0 punishment for being an idiot
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