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>>180359129

>New TF2 Blogpost about Balance Changes:
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147
>list of good comm. servers
http://www.teamfortress.tv/servers

>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/6t7WNtgn
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf | steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: scrap.tf | tf2outpost.com | backpack.tf | bazaar.tf
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: backpack.tf | trade.tf
Scrapbanking: scrap.tf | scrapbank.me
Skins: p337.info/tfview/

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ | pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W

>/tf2g/s looking to party queue
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-e-Sut2sj954Cjm8aGzXMaN4dSSop7xgiyp9DCdOK8/edit?usp=sharing
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redpill me on ms pauling and scout
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lesbian and kissless virgin
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>>180425901
i like the new danger shield
if theres like 3 pyros spamming scorch flares its going to be incredibly hard to aim
its good considering his only other alternatives are a jar of piss every 20 seconds or standing next to a dispenser
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>>180426272
i know, i'm just glad the bullet blocking version will soon be fucking dead
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How is it that dance taunts end up being cheaper than their MSRP in the mann co store?
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i am going to glue my mantreads to my feet once they get updated
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>>180427329
>you can have this when you pry it from my cold, dead feet, and even then good luck because i will have glued it to my cold, dead feet
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Never saw general this alive in months may be years.
Are we going way too fast?
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I for one welcome the speed, thread activity and non-fempyro OPs
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>>180427470
no, this is the speed that generals should be striving to go through

for once we have actual discussion instead of the same "post your x" or "post charts no one gives a damn about"
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Are server scans still a thing or is there no way to profit any more?
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post your charts
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I was sort of okay with fempyro OPs, but whoever opening these threads now, doing a pretty good job on OP pics.

Also what are the chances a Diablo 3 General to live if I were to open one? Anyone hyped about Necro? $14.99
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>>180427930
far from the right thread to ask about d3g's potential longevity
head to mmog
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tfw used to use degreaser + flare and recently tried stock and am not looking back
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>>180428163
mmog died
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Are there any scanners left? I feel like getting some cheap goods like in the old days but it appears they've been removed from the OP.
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To that one anon, there is a banjo taunt.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=855351756
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mePbBYTu5E4
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What sniper rifle is best in mvm if you can actually click heads
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http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=440&searchtext=&childpublishedfileid=0&browsesort=trend&section=mtxitems&requiredtags%5B%5D=Taunt&requiredtags%5B%5D=Jungle

Place your bets people! What taunts will go on to be added in the Jungle update?
https://strawpoll.com/2dy28yr
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>>180429754
there is only one good sniper and its the heatmaker
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>>180429859
Wouldn't bazaar be good though because you can get literally free charge rate
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>>180429908
you can buy charge rate
you cant buy a no unscoping upgrade between shots
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>>180430124
Alright I understand thanks. When I get focus, should I just be firing as fast as possible? Or waiting till i get full charge
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>>180430176
Your choice, but for whatever reason, bots have a tendency to slow way down when you pop them with a nonlethal headshot.
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dead already?
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What'a shame. Maybe they died due to the HUGE FUCKONG TROPICAL STORM THAT IS TOTAL GONNA RUIN EVERYTGING EVERYBIDY PAVK UP AND LEAVE IMMEDIATELY.
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>>180431920
They're in Washington, silly.
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somebody sell me an argyle ace for a reasonable price
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>>180425901

add the guillotine
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>>180432327
i know guillotine got hit honestly harder than any of the weapons listed, but it never bothered me to the point of pissing me off like everything listed did. i don't need to rub it into the face of the guillotine any more.
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>>180430270
exp headshot applies a slow effect to everyone in range with a slightly longer effect on the targer itself
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>>180431920
The EARTHQUAKE WILL BE SOOOOO POWERFUL IN CALIFORNIA
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>>180432654
well i'm scared now
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>>180432701
It MAY DESTROY LOTS OF HOUSES
IT MAY DESTROY TELEPHONE POLES
IT MAY DESTROY ALL KINDS OF TRANSFORMERS
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Serious question for people who have overwatch and still play tf2, what don't you like about ow? I'm trying to decide on which game to pick up ow or pubg
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>>180432943
Each character is piss easy to learn
Playing rock paper scissors with characters isn't fun
few maps
the only teamwork in the game is comboing ults
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>>180432787
pls
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>>180432787
Is that such a bad thing?
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>>180432787
this is going to be a big nothingburger just like the last hurricane

also anybody who lives on the coast deserves this.
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does anyone else make it a point to kill friendlies?
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>>180433225
I always pad my score when I can.
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>>180433225
sometimes. if it's just one pootis heavy then whatever, i don't really waste my time, but if it's a huge cluster of people dancing or being friendly i'll try to be the one dick that ruins everything and gets people mad at me in chat.
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>>180433225
Yes. Fuck friendlies. If I see one, I'll even go out of my way to kill them. It just really gets on my nerves when everyone's actually going around fragging(or trying to) and having a good time and then this one motherfucker wants to have a picnic. Screw friendlies. Votekick if on my team, kill over and over if on enemy team.
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>>180433225
If it's an enemy Heavy I'll let them live. Never know when you might need a sandvich
Otherwise, their only use to me is a +1 on my strange
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>>180433225
>go Spy
>disguise as that one friendly
>flick DR and wait crouched with sammich visible at your disguise
>you can use teammate disguises too, remember that
>stab unaware people
>if friendly is on your own team, people will shoot him for spycheck now, mostly end up killing him
>that will make him RQ or go REEEEE over chat
>if friendly is at the enemy team people will mock him to change his attitude because there's a Spy mimicing him
>you keep stacking frags until friendly leaves the game or start to play for real

You're welcome
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>frag
>get low on health
>run into enemy heavy
>he throws me a sandvich
>Thanks!
>kill him
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>People calling Hoovy/Friendy an "alternate playstyle"
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>>180433991
Literally this.

I don't have an issue with friendlies since if someone's having fun and it isn't interfering with mine I just don't care, but it's fucking hilarious to do this.
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>>180434125
Congrats, next time you see him he'll just let you burn to death after you get pegged by a flarebitch
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reminder if there's an aimbotting sniper on the enemy team just look at the skybox, run backward toward them and spam ADADADADA

>>180434257
i can't be flared if i'm a pyro and you'd be surprise how many friendlies are militant in their friendly status
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>>180434368
why is that
does it fuck with their aimbot?
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>>180433879
>>180433879
I fucking hate having them on my team. they're idle. a shitty player is more useful than them
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>Be fragging as Heavy
>Get low on health, fall back to health kit
>It's gone, do the "I've claimed this health kit" squat while I wait for it to respawn
>Enemy Soldier comes by, sees me
>"Today is a good day!"
>Walks on by
>Health kit spawns, go chase after him and punch him in the back with the KGB while he's trying to peek our sentry
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>>180434457
some aimbots aim where they think the head should be, not where it actually is. some taunts also mess it up.
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>>180434610
does that mean you can kazotsky kick towards a hacker and he won't be able to hit you
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The Fleming
>Ubercharge heals the yourself and everyone within healing range, but provides no invulnaribility.
>+10% Ubecharge build rate
>10% of healing done applies to yourself
>On Assist: 1 seconds of 100% critical chance upon switching to primary or melee weapon for up to 5 seconds. Switching away retains remaining 100% critical chance bonus.
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>>180434776
>the yourself

listening to too much whitehouse bub
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overwatch even copied the shield lamo
would this be a good unlock to use in 6v6? cancer?
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make bingo cards for the update

post bingo cards

template next post
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>>180435318
i dont think it would be bad if you would make it less like a wall and more like a shield so you cant just block a whole doorway against spam
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>>180435371
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>>180433225
Depends, sometimes yes, sometimes no. I toss a voicecommand 0 1 out of a pottis hovver tosses me a sandvitch
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>>180435318
would be neat. push last and protect your entire team
might be an issue if the pyro can spy check and airblast anyone away, so it would be hard to flank
but that would mean pushing last with a pyro
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>people thinking the reason spy mains are bitching is because they can't 'adapt' despite the fact that spy is the only fun class to play
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>>180435642
>despite the fact that spy is the only fun class to play
ask me how i know your stabby/ paladin
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>>180435694
>your
>i
>'/ '
Ask me how I know you haven't finished 8th grade.
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>>180435642
>spy is only the fun class to play

learning how to rocket jump isn't fun?
getting airshots isn't fun?
double jumping as scout and being unhittable isn't fun?
meatshots aren't fun?
being ubered and killing everything isn't fun?
getting a headshot isn't fun?
having your level 3 sentry gun mow down retards isn't fun?
getting pipes isn't fun?
having idiots walk into your sticky trap isn't fun?
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>>180435845
Those are just too easy. I like my tf2 games like I like my women. On the edge and in groups of sixes.
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>>180435945
>spy
>sixes

more like invisible and hiding from you
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>>180435642
Fun is subjective, but you being retarded is objective.

Nerfs were well deserved, (could've made it so ammo pickup on the DR was halved and it would've been just as good though) and you're now going to learn how to actually sneak.
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>>180435990
I can already tell you don't play spy
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>>180436041
>>Nerfs were well deserved
You keep saying that despite Spy being the weakest class in the game. But you would defend Valve regardless of what they do. My bet is you'd even defend random crits if they decided to add those to the game.
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>>180436043
i can already tell that you havent found atleast one of your six women yet
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>>180436178
spy having those tools be as good as they were didn't make him any better really, just a annoying.
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>3v6
>enemy team refuses to autobalance
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>>180436178
Spy should be reworked entirely because it's currently the weakest class in the game. It's an issue that won't be solved by nerfing or buffing the DR, but the DR always was just turbo annoying to play against.
Still easy to kill, just took much longer tracking him down and making sure he was dead after popping multiple DR's.
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>the amby nerf is secretly a buff
http://imgur.com/gallery/WqxKL
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>>180436270
>just annoying
Heavies on carts are annoying. Overhealed snipers with razorbacks are annoying. Three engis on the last point of a payload map are annoying.

>>180436250
I'm not really sure where you're going with this.

>>180436354
>but the DR always was just turbo annoying to play against
Just like every other class is annoying if they're good right? Lets be honest here. You just suck and can't take out a single spy.
>tracking him down
I don't have to tell you what's wrong with this playstyle do I? Looks like the spy serves the purpose of creating a distraction instead of having to rely on its team. Seems like a useful ability that makes spy just slightly viable in team setting. It's a team game after all.
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>They didn't buff enforcer
>Battlespy is still stuck in limbo
I'll take my Full stock / Let Range + Stock for now then
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>>180436545

It's annoying because he's able to pop his dead ringer nonstop if he picks up ammo kits which are scattered in abundance in large amounts.
I'd be happier if they buffed the DR by making it so you CAN pick up ammo packs, but they replenish half of the current amount and spy gets a much faster speed boost.

I'm fine with a watch that feigns death, but it's too easy to track him down in it's current form since the relocation aspect of feigning death sucks ass and always has. It'd be better than him eating up every ammo pack while taking potshots and spamming dr shields.

It's something that needs to be worked on. I want the DR to be useful, but at the same time, I don't want people to use it as a cruch for running and gunning/getting a single pick, feigning death, recharging ad nauseum.

Spy should be more of a support class than he currently is, but making him such would require new items.

Couple of good ones i've heard are a pickup mechanic where you can grab ammo packs/health kits and drop them off for your teammates, or a temporary sentry stun that you can throw.

Just something that makes him more than a pick class/tech breaker.
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>>180434172
???????????
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>>180436794
enforcer already has perfect accuracy it doesn't need a buff
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>>180437513
GIVE ME MY RANDOM CRITS.
PIERCING DAMAGE RESISTENCE IS USELESS.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>180437513
It shoud literally just become

>Damage Fal-loff reduced by 50% (60/50/40 instead of 60/40/20)
>20% Slower firing speed
>No Random Critical hits
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>>180437798
>40 hitscan damage across the map twice a second

haha no
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>>180438312
Yeah rewarding skill what a shit concept
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>>180438356
>point and click
>skill

>>>/r/jesuschristreddit
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>>180437513
it doesn't need a buff, it needs a fix.
it's damage resist ignore effect doesn't even work against the battalion's backup and fists of steel. hell, it's attribute was so rushed, that pain train users don't even take extra damage from the enforcer!
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>>180438506
Would be intresting to have it have a flat amount of 40 damage, no matter what resistances or bonuses that exist of any kind.
Not even distance would come into play.
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>>180436407
the 50% increased accuracy only applies to the first shot anyway, so we went from a literal pixel perfect shot to whatever the fuck is the last image
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>>180437107
>are scattered in abundance in large amounts.
No such thing. Either pick up the ammo first or don't chase him all the way.
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Dead ringer should instantly put the spy at 1hp no matter what, desu.
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>Spy get's a shotgun unlockable as a primary
>Identical to other shotguns
What changes?
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>>180436794
>best underdog-looking revolver
>needs a buff
Nope.
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>>180439325
is it identical to other shotguns?
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>>180439408
No.
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>>180439325
>miss stab
>blast people away to hell and back
I like the revolver a lot more, reliable at all ranges and similar DPS, but misses the burst damage a shotgun would bring, which is not what a spy secondary should do
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>>180439429
bad
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>sapper replaced with a wrangler that can control enemy sentries for three seconds before cooldown what changes
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>>180438742
>First-shots are no longer perfectly accurate. Bullet-spread is instead reduced by 50%
i dont think its only on the first shot anon
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>>180439615
I would love this but holy fuck would it be overpowered
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Just decided to queue up on casual to frag people on ctf_turbine, only to find that the server I found is full of friendlies. Everyone were voting to kick players who weren't friendly, which ended up kicking 2 new players who just wanted to play the game (who were on our team), and kicked their only good player that actually played the game (a DH soldier). What the fuck is with friendlies man? Go to community servers if you want to do dumb shit that doesn't involve killing players for fucks sake.
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>>180439650
but what if while using it the spy is constantly shouting funny remarks "the other way you stupid bucket of bolts"
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>>180439659
hello it is me
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>>180439659
>Post things you hate in TF2

Can't fucking stand it when people say "No capping on hightower it's a rule!!1!1"

actually makes me mad, just go to a goddamn no cap hightower server you dumb fuck
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new idea
>spy gets a wrangler that can control enemy sentries for 3 seconds before 10 second cooldown
>can be used on several sentries at once
>must personally go to each one to place an object that will be able to control it
>can be whacked off by engineers
>while using it the spy is constantly shouting funny remarks "the other way you stupid bucket of bolts"
balansed?????
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>>180439802
oh, hi egg

yes, i'm that guy who asked if you were a lurker here
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>>180439867
Maybe not a wrangler, but a zapper that made a sentry go nuts and just start spinning around and firing whatever it has at its disposable would be pretty neat.
Functions like a normal zapper in the basic time and destruction fields, but instead of destroying the sentry it just sends it haywire.
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What is the most OP scout loadout/map? I'm a spy addict trying to change my ways.
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>>180440578
Soda Popper + Mad Milk
Can't say for melee yet desu, might still be atomizer or sandman.

Full stock is also goat, if you can aim the pistol
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>>180440637
> if you can aim the pistol
Aiming isn't my issue. It's not having reliable health on scout
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>>180440676
AAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAH
I bet you use DR as spy
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How do you fix not being able to see where to shoot because flamethrower obscures everything?
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Is it even worth reinstalling TF2? I was waiting for the matchmaking update to save TF2 so we could have comp-lite but instead it replaced quickplay and ruined the entire game. Has the game improved at all since then?
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>>180440780
matchmaking is better for casual than it was, but still not better than quickplay
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>>180440780
wait a week or so for the update to come out, playing now is only going to hamper your want to play
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https://youtu.be/b0QTlzUQKCY
Hey check this out, apparently there are rare passti.e catch animations that no one knew about because literally no one plays pass time the way it's supposed to be played.
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>>180415292
The gravity of the situation is this: There are a bunch of people always complaining about the lack of vanilla rotation servers, nocrits or otherwise, but there's not enough of you to stick around. Quickplay has pretty much drained the community of people who will fill slots on those servers, and it is incredibly hard to keep up the numbers no matter what.

I was considering hosting an EU nocrits rotation server but I came to the realisation that it doesn't matter what you do and your community will die, buried beneath the mass of Hightower, Orange and Saxton Hale servers. The last remaining bastion (TF2 No Bullshit) is dead. The only hope is that Valve fixes the TF2GC and makes quickplay decent, because as long as it exists, vanilla community servers will not.
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>>180440710
Well every spy does. That's not a hard guess
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>>180440832
There's an actual timestamp on these balance changes coming out? I didn't see one on their post.

>>180440972
I liked the original quickplay
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>>180440578
Just use pocket pistol after it's been buffed, you will have your self heal tool as well as a secondary that you can still fall back to, done. Scattergun's always a good primary, and melee doesn't matter (except if you want to build medic's uber, then take boston basher).
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>>180441116
>>180440676
Anyways taunting aside,
When you are not a DR baby, you will actually need to think about movement, enemy positions, and how much HP you have, as well as risk/reward.

You can't just mindeslley charge into a group of 5 people and still get to survive, as well as be able to get behind them for free.

Map awarness and game sense are essentially skills you actually need now.

No amount of free HP as any class will ever fix that.
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>>180441181
No, there isn't, but back around the meet your match update valve said that the update would be released soon after a post about the update asking people's opinions about the balance changes or something along those lines.

I'm assuming this is that post.
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>finally got the 1,000,000 explosive damage demo achievement
huh, that took longer than I thought
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>>180440890
>ass time still exists
for what purpose
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>>180433225
depends on the server. in casual? absolutely. On community servers? Only if they get in the way or are helping. I had a teammate who was doing muh friendly heavy and kept outing me as spy so I switched teams and kept killing him.
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how do i win scout v soldier as scout
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>>180439621
>subject is first shots
>subsequent sentence somehow applies to whole gun
Knowing valve they will have all shots but the first have 5% accuracy but whatever
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jump but only sometimes
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>>180443438
maintain height, he wont be able to just shoot the ground beneath you
try not to jump and simply walk around projectiles, reason being a jump is harder to control for scout and easier to track as soldier
hit your shots
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>>180443438
Other anon said it already but I'll give a small addition about jumps; don't jump until you're too close or need to reload or swap weapons quickly.

>>180440578
Give a try to Popper+Guillotine+Sandman before it's killed.
Enjoy FaN+Cola+Sun before Cola gets buried into the ground.

>>180440676
>having health issues on Scout
Then give a chance to stock Scattergun+Madmilk+F'oW.
If you position properly, and don't exhaust doublejump early just to be a free airborne target you won't have health issues
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>Pyromancer
>0 out of 1,000,000
Please tell me it just doesn't show it till its done.
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>>180444106
i was literally looking at this just now too, what the fuck
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>>180444375
new spy meta
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>>180444375
Yeah what was this all about? My disguises kept being broken
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>when you could see spies from a mile away because disguises were broken to the point that the spy's weapon would still show through
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I sent another mail to Volve. Lectured and rant about their current balance plans.
Suggested
>DR to get a cloak duration cut down to 5.5s and slower recharge, still can replenish cloak so it's easier to track down
>Spycicle blocks cloakmeter to get replenished when melted away and recovering
>Diamondback to be nerfed with first shot inaccuracy but recovery time untouched
>Amby gets a slightly longer recovery time but still perfectly accurate at long distances.
>DDS to get a slight crit resistance added, no health addition and only saves your ass from Amby/Dback crits without overheal
>Razorback increases melee damage but overheal decays faster and has a slower healrate, doesn't replenish after a while
>told them to not kill Sandcleaver combo totally, but slowdown the draw time on Cleaver and allow moonshots to stun only instead.
I dunno how these could work out in a real game, I'm really convoluted about Razorback's mechanics. May be they did the best bet.
Did I do good?
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>>180444745
I think it's an intended bug. Back in the day, no such bug existed, now you have to check your disguise again and press B (default current disguise button) to be sure and mimic weapon swap once. Same "bug" also goes for Deadringer when you try to disguise without letting speedboost to cease away, emitting smoke and giving your position.
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>>180443438
Everything the other dudes said, but some additional hints. The first step should always be to identify what gear the soldier is carrying, if he has a shotgun, you should be prepared for that. This is a no brainer, but there are a shit ton of people that pay no attention to this. The biggest liability of soldiers is the mag size, so a shotgun is really important to consider. Always know how many shots they have left in their mag. If you're going to use the pistol to annoy them from a safer range, try to avoid carrying it around empty, not having a good backup in tight situations is really really bad. The most important one: Don't be predictable. This counts for all of TF2, but is especially true for dm. If your attack patterns are always the same, it doesn't matter if you have the higher ground, because there will be a rocket waiting for you to show up.

This also should go without saying, but your aim is so fucking important. Scout is a hit scan class. Scouts that can't rely on doing damage with the scattergun get into all sorts of bad habits, like closing the distance quickly for easy meat shots, as soon as they see the first reload animation. Your aim needs to be just as good as a sniper mains should be. Really get down how much damage you can do from certain ranges. If you get in one good hit early, it's often very easy to finish it without taking any further risks from a safer range.
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Whats the cheapest spec killstreak in the game.
I am making a pro kit.
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>>180446293
Big Kill, or Batsaber probably
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>>180439659
>disguise as teammate friendly
>backstab
>seed distrust
>repeat
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>>180446769
Doesn't work if your own team kicks you, if they see you backstabbing
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>>180446293
My half completed souther hospitality and frontier justice fabricators that don't require unique items to complete
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>>180414992
No matter how heavy blows you receive, in the end you will always win. Not just in TF2, but life in general. The moment you begin to accept defeat, you have lost.
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>>180434776
>1 second for up to 5 seconds
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Is he, dare I say it, /ourguy/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxUbOY0sdRM
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>>180447626
why do autists make 30min+ videos of themselves literally just reading the patch notes?
no one gives a fuck about your opinion and no one is going to watch the whole video
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why are non autists shit at the game
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everyone who plays this game is autistic
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>>180447984
Reading military literature has made my game sense better
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>>180447809
To milk ad revenue. Overwatch youtubers are pretty notorious for doing the same thing, except they also make 10 min+ "discussion" videos on rumors and speculation.
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>>180447809
Noone told them to kill themselves on time so now they're stuck wandering this plane forever
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>>180448210
i'm guessing it's so they can justify using midroll ads because their videos are so damn long? i'd honestly feel bad about doing that and some of my videos are nearly an hour long. i mean using the non-invasive ads is getting me a steady flow of like 4-12 cents a day, but i honestly think that's better than annoying the people who'd actually bother to watch with ads on with some unskippable video ad midway through. maybe i'm just not greedy enough.
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>>180448901
You're making hour-long videos for less than 30 bucks a year?
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>>180449082
on a bad day pretty much. i know i'd make more with midroll ads or those 5 second ones you can skip at the beginning, or even worse the ones you can't skip at all, but that's invasive and irritating.
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>>180448210
>>180448894
this was meant to gta youtubers but i guess it still applies
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>>180429859
>>180429908
>>180430124
Wouldn't the machina be good for dealing massive damage at multiple giants? 1035 damage when fully charged with max damage upgrades, charging pretty fast with the correct upgrades
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>>180449386
this is accurate
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>>180449395
i guess, but being unable to no scope tanks for rapid fire 100 damage shots is a pretty steep price for 100 extra damage on fully charged headshots and not having to buy projectile penetration
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>>180449395
Try thinking of it as dps rather than single shot damage

I know it's compelling to pick the hardest hitting bullet but that only gets you so far
>>
ambassador fix

+headshots crit
+perfect accuracy always
+no cooldown between shots
-50% damage penalty
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>>180449615
How long is the charge with max upgrades? Because if i'm not mistaken you can get off 6 uncharged headshots in 5 seconds with a fully powered heatmaker, and that's 1800 damage. If machina charges in less than 2 seconds that's already more than 2k damage
Maybe i should test this shit out
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Will the pyro update release coincide with the summer sale?
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It's highly unlikely
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am i the only one who uses current mantreads for the knockback resist because i can't fucking rocket jump
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>>180450331
>because i can't fucking rocket jump
I will never understand how people go on a videogame general to discuss a specific game, but won't invest an hour on a jump server to learn basic jumping
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>>180450331
no i'm sure you're not the only one itt that's this bad
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Can we have autobalance back please?
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Pyro Update releases today at 11:00 AM Pacific Time.
Screencap this.
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>>180450375
>>180450394
fine it was hyperbole

i can rocket jump decently i just don't feel like it half the time and really only ever play soldier to shit on scouts and sentries with direct hit and i know the knockback resist actually helps beyond a placebo
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>>180450553
i doubt they'd release the update before any more balance changes are revealed. i mean it's the pyro class pack and you think they're not going to talk about pyro before releasing it? best case scenario today we get some more balance change news and i wouldn't even hold my breath about that because they've had 2 days worth of feedback to go through.
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>buy pocket pistol for 1.66 refined from strange bots
>sell on steam market for 4 refined in cash
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>>180448894
>hey pals, it's your boy orb here
>acting like some epicccc celebrity of nuSPUF, pretending people care and that you matter at all

I don't have a absolutamente asqueroso powerful enough to react with
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>>180448894
>your boy Orb here
Ya lost me there.
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idk if this was posted here already but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhRNIsNyfSk
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>>180450553
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*blocks your path*

what do you do?
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>>180452051
walk around that pig
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>>180452051
insert bat and cover in mad milk
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That Converse/Adidas knockoff crossover looks fucking disgusting
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said the fatass spic manlet
lmao
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please tell me im not the only one who likes to put a level 3 in the water in 2fort
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i like to put my 9 inches in your mom
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>>180452275
How does that invalidate his sense of fashion?
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Says the chubby half-Mexican who exclusively wears Chuckie T's

My favorite Team Fortress 2 footwear is the Argyle Ace and whatever the Converse are called here. Damn. I forgot the name
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I must have offended him for taking shit about the girl from the image he prolly loves
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Gonna have a good 'Za with the today's update.
What topping lads?
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>>180452647
lettuce
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place your bets
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epic
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>>180452051
Reddit tier humor
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>>180452749
>>180452798
for what purpose
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>>180452798
>tfw to inteligent to craft good hats
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>>180452798
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okay round two
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>>180452798
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simply epic
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>>180452952

Handyman's Handle
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>>180452996
I like
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>>180453006
someone redpill me on this tripfag
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final round: ultimate death match
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>redpill
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>>180453075
He's A-OK
>>180453134
>It's fucking nothing!
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http://tf2r.com/k8i1cgs.html
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>>180453075
just block out anyone who isn't called Anonymous my dude
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>redpill
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>MrPaladin made a 1h33m long update talk video
Guess who got a bumrash?
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>DR gets nerfed further

If they hate that weapon they can just remove it from the game, what is the point of having a watch that is worse in every way than the original one

>Can't trigger it when you want to
>Can't recharge it
>Short duration
>Small speedboost but it's simply better to have a longer cloak
>Small resistance but you could just cloak and not get it to being with
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>>180453508
"brevity is the soul of wit" - some fuckin dead guy
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>>180453543
so traders don't throw shit
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>>180453543
>what is the point of having a watch that is worse in every way than the original one
It was supposed to be a situational item for tricking people into thinking they killed you.
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why are spy mains still crying over the dr
just use a different watch
you act like there aren't any other options
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>>180453814
other watches dont allow you to cheese your way out of a 1v1 if you start losing
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>>180453543
current DR with speed buff and fire resistance is the most op it has ever been, including the release version.
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>>180453814
It's really interesting. I've seen plenty of spy mains actually welcoming those nerfs, especially the first few hours after the notes came out. Now all the retarded gibus players come out of the wood work, who only play this game once in a blue moon, and complain they can't be a huge annoying piece of shit anymore, without putting in any effort.
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>>180454083
because good spies don't actually use DR.
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>>180453543
I suggested it to be recharged with ammo packs to Volve but at the cost of reducing the cloak duration even further.
Also I suggested Spycicle and Diamondback to be looked upon as well.
If what I suggested applies, cicle needs no-cloak replenish or less cloak from ammo packs when melted away.
I just hope they read and listen my feedback and foresight. As of now I'm writing another mail to TF Team about what I forgot in my previous mail.

>>180453814
People can't wrap their damn heads around CnD yet, that includes thousands of hours Spy mains like MrP.
Trick is knowing how to blend with the background color while exhausting it. That's what YER nerf is about actually.
Because people have no idea so far. Crouching at ramps, decloaking at shadows and faking your movement with intentional flickers is just extra.
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Every time i see Sn's dp i get sad :-(
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With the upcomming update will Thole finally return???
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is this the mossy thread
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Gonna have a good 'Za with the today's update.
What topping lads?
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>>180454834
>>180452746
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>>180454834
Pineapple + Anchovy. It's really good.
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>>180454834
[B]e[B][B]eroni
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Anyone wants to play some payload? :3
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payload more like GAY LOAD LMAO
>>
Get a load of this guy haha
>>
Anyone else think this will be the last class update? It's taken them a year to do one class. I think they will just give up after this.

They did 5 classes in a year back when the game released

They either don't have the people to do it anymore, or they don't care.
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They're not just doing one class, though. This is supposed to be the biggest update in TF2 history, every class is getting at least minor tweaks.
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>>180456013
id? :^3
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>>180457232
Because back then a class update just meant hey lets add some new weapons for this class

Now every time they add something they have to reflect on how it plays together with all the other items, there's just too bloody many already

I mean why do we need more "class updates" anyway, just tweak whatever needs tweaking whenever it does
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>>180458298
grox7
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=951969457
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>>180458802

Okay I clicked on that link and now all of my hats are gone, what happened?!
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Come to think of it, since they mentioned some of the "least used" weapons in the game, does anyone even uses the Pain Train? It has always seemed to me kinda useless to have an extra capture if you're gonna get killed quicker, even if the extra damage thing worked only while deployed.
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>>180458802
doesnt pyro already have the most looping taunts in the game?
why add more
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>>180459035
I do with the sticky jumper sometimes against teams of retards, but not outside of that instance.
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>>180459189

Any weapon is useful if you're fighting a team of retards
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>>180459035
Do you actually play the game?
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>>180459761
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>>180459869
It is the most common melee for demoman in 6v6.
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>implying the update drops today
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>>180459869
>most recent
>balance of power
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr8-E8may2Y
3 HOURS
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>>180460217

The only way for me to play Demo is stock, honestly.

>>180460367

If you've spent a few years in the thread you'd know, most of the time I used to spend in the game was trading, nowadays I don't really search for the achievements either, I just play for fun
>>
>tfw just sent my extensive feedback

Did you do anything to help the game or are you just another reddit dwelling parasite?
>>
>>180460430
3 hours until what?
>>
steam summer sale starts in 2 hours.
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>>180460782
jungle update
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>>180460615
Thanks for reminding me to send part 2 of mine.

>>180460843
I hope your wallet is ready.
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>>180460853
They just released patch notes a day ago saying they want feedback. The Jungle update will be next Thursday at the absolute earliest.
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>>180460879
you know it
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>buying games when there's tf2
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>>180461554
i hate this, please delete it
thanks
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You can't stop me...
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>>180461554
are those the new battleborn heroes
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>>180461554
>>
Please buy my thing on the market, thank you.
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>>180461554
Whoever did this deserves shingles
>>
>>180461554
why is this so WRONG
>>
>>180461554
I can't stop looking someone help
>>
http://gaben.tv
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pybun is the best tf2 fanart creator and you are all wrong
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>>180462109
i cant because I don't look at tf2 fanart
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>>180461916
>You have praised Gaben for -2 minutes!
nice servers lmao
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>>180462618
>>
>>180462618
>>180462679
>on-topic shitposting
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>>180462679
the engi has got to be the worst one
why are his hands so big
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>>180462679
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>>180462754
>why are his hands so big
so he can le random crit your with wrench harder ;)
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>>180462109
>the horrendous elbow clipping
yeah, right
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>>180460498
>>do you actually play the game
>o-of course I do! here's proof!..
>>lmao how was that your latest achievement
>oh yea i don't actually play the game i just trade lol
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>>180462618
>>180462679
>>180462778
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>>180462109
She may well be, but these aren't her highlight.
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>>180462937
>>180460498
>>
why are spy mains the absolute worst
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>>180462778
>Spy has his pelvis surgically removed, keeps it in an offsite location so women can suck his dick while he focuses on work
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>>180459035
i have a strange pain train because it crits more
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>>180463090
stock spy is useless against people with brains so they gave him a bunch of crutches
now they take them away and people are mad because theyre used to them
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>>180452798
At least it's not a medal
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>>180463090
because they started maining the class after hearing that spy takes skill so they can be considered skilled players
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>>180463090
because 99% of pub spymains gameplay revolved around #1.) playing nothing but spy and #2.) only ever using deadringer (crutch) and ambassador (wasn't meant to be)
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>>180462937

So you read what I wrote or what? Nowadays I don't really care about trading, I just get into the game when I feel bored, pubstomp a bit, then leave.

>>180463090

Because just like with Sniper mains, they all want to be "Le Epic Assassin", "Nuttin Personnel Kid", "Nothing is True Everything is Permitted".

>>180463156

It does? I can't recall the last time I got crit killed with one.
>>
>tfw youre a literal who but you still have more hours than some tripfag whos been here for years
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>>180463284
also "le epic trickstabszzzz xd"
>>
>>180463284
>Yeah guys I can't sap a single sentry nest and kill an engi but I'm pro I swear
>>
least used weapon has to be either the sharpened volcano fragment, third degree, or the fire axe
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>>180463090
because the ideal way to play the class revolves entirely around abusing the game's poorly implemented mechanics and being really proud of yourself for doing so (also applies to pyro)
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>>180459869
>hasn't played the tutorial
>doesn't have medic achievements that all I got within 7 hours of playing the class on smurf account
>doesn't have the most basic sniper achievement
>doesn't play soldier

you may suck but you're not using that software achievement unlocker so kudos for that I guess
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>>180463550
i'd say its probably stock fire axe
volcano fragment is cool so the average f2p will equip it regardless of its state
and the third degree is a straight upgrade and ive seen it get used a few times in pubs
i have never seen a stock axe get used by anyone
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>>180463750
new players use stock, so the numbers will be fairly high
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>>180463550
>>180463750
Stock weapons give valve a false positive on equip rate due to being on 4 loadouts by default
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>>180463847
>claiming to know for certain how they count this shit
stop being stupid
>>
Team Fortress 2 Update Released
June 22, 2017 - TF2 Team

An update to Team Fortress 2 has been released. The update will be applied automatically when you restart Team Fortress 2. The major changes include:
>The Flare Gun now uses the Crusader's Crossbow's inverse damage falloff mechanic
->Developer's note; use the axtinguisher you scum
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>>180464194
>no updated localization files
It's like Valve doesn't even care desu...
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>>180464194
and thats that for the pyro update
see you next year when we buff stock fists damage by 5
>>
after heavy what class will get an update
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none
>>
the engineer
is engiqueer
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>>180462778
>Spy with normal sized hands
Stop it! Stop!
>>
the soldier
is gay
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so this is the 2017 tf2 experience
tfw unable to healslut bads
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>>180461554
>>180462618
>>180462679
>>180462778

>Scout looks like Shaggy or like some skinnyfat guy
>Soldier and Medic look like Buzz Lighter
>Demoman looks like a Beast Wars Transformer
>Heavy looks like the Yeti from Monsters Inc.
>Engineer looks like a crab
>Sniper looks like a retard
>Spy looks like Slenderman

Why is this so wrong? It's like the person who did didn't realize the characters already have a cartoony anatomy.
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>mfw shitty pub spy mains screech in agony at the loss of weapons they were completely shit with in the first place.

If you weren't able to roll at least gold level teams using just your gun as a spy then you should neck yourself and pick up a real class.
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>>180466112
>buzz lighter

The cartoonish proportions are exaggerated, like a caricature
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HOW DO WE SAVE TF2?
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>>180467715
delete the concept of "mains"
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>>180467715
add official workshop servers where every week a selection of popular maps gets picked for playtesting
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>>180467715
Remove matchmaking, and stop trying to make this game an e-sport.
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>Buzz LIGHTER

I feel silly.

>>180467514

The problem is they already are exaggerated in regular TF2, re-cartoonifying them causes the character to look just awful.
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>>180467715
Fix matchmaking, and do a proper job at making this game an e-sport.
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>>180425901
dead ringer never triggered me as much as those other 3 pieces of shit, but still cool that they want to nerf it
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WHY DO THEY WANT TO NERF THE YER
SOMEBODY
EXPLAIN
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>>180469594
They are not?
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>>180467715
go back to gun mettle
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>>180469702
+50% cloack drain rate
Ruined
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So when is the update releasing?
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>>180470131
But you can now disguise
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>>180470232
They also ruined the fun part of the wep
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Why are keys used as a currency? Unboxing with them is almost always pointless.
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>>180470337
Because they have a steady money value which is unlikely to change
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>>180470232
First of all, that ruins the point of the weapon. Second, disguises fool absolutely nobody
And lastly, it eats up all your cloak, meaning you'll have to wait a shitton to be able to get in with a disguise
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post feedback that you have sent

mine:

https://pastebin.com/JhMue6ai
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>>180471434
something along the lines of

>The way you're balancing the ambassador, while a good goal, is a bad idea. Balancing things around random spread is a terrible idea and should never be done.
>Speaking of random spread pls leave the beggars alone thx
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>>180468070
>Constant rotation of ponyville, mariokart, and highertower
pass
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Today's forecast

Northern New York, the Carolinas, Kentucky, and Tennesse will all be receiving minimal showers, some intense rain here or there but nothing big. Western Wisconsin and Alabama will be receiving large quantities of rainfall so make sure to bring your umbrellas!

The entire eastern half of the country will be cloudy all day long, not getting much sunlight today. That does not mean that it will be cool however. Sweltering heat all across the country. The highest being stable 90s around the border with the coolest being a calm 61 up in Washington. The rest of the country is blanketed in a wave of 70s and 80s
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>>180471434
Didn't save mine but it went:
Nerf diamondback nao
Suggestions for casual: no more endless taunts, no random crits
Suggestions for competitive: have to have a certain casual rank, have to have a certain # of hours, links to comp.tf tutorials in-game, weapon pick/ban system
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>>180471434
Something like "it's alright, but cleaver nerf was too harsh. Pls keep crits even if you have to make it worse some other way."

>>180471994
Don't forget achievement_idle and cp_orange
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>>180471434
>Pls make the syringe guns worth using
>Pls make the buffalo steak sandvich worth using
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>>180472001
NC here, we're already getting our showers. Thankfully far enough inland that that's all we ever get from tropical storms/hurricanes.
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>>180472021
>no more endless taunts
Why? That's the most pointless change I've read since the solemn vow nerf
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>>180472181
Because fuck friendlies. If they want to throw the match and not even try, they can fuck off to their 24/7 instantrespawn tdm_2bine hugbox.
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>>180461554
what the flippity flapjack is this bullshit
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What counts as a "tour" in MvM? How do i complete a "tour"? Completeting every level on every difficulty?

Haven't played since 2011 and trying to get back into the groove.
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>>180473002
Do not play MVM. It's the most toxic, degenerate, autistic part of the game.
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>>180473101
why?
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>>180472021
>Suggestions for competitive: have to have a certain casual rank, have to have a certain # of hours, links to comp.tf tutorials in-game, weapon pick/ban system
those are nice, but matchmaking is so broken at its core that I feel not many will play that after those changes are implemented anyway

valve also needs to be pressed to expand tutorial to encompass every class and so that to play a certain class on a server you will need to complete tutorial section for that certain class

seriously though it's been nearly 10 years and we have as basic as it gets tutorial for only 4 classes on top of that what the fuck

TEN YEARS
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>>180473283
>valve also needs to be pressed to expand tutorial to encompass every class and so that to play a certain class on a server you will need to complete tutorial section for that certain class

the tutorial is playing the game you simpleton
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>>180472021
Also forgot:
Casual changes - Add fucking stopwatch back. Why was this removed? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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>>180473406
>the tutorial is playing the game you simpleton

which is exactly why quality of casual games is so shit you mongrel, there are syringe gun warriors and spies not knowing how to disguise on every team
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>>180470232
Default watch has about 5 seconds of invisibility with it mate (not including the cloak fade in/out time, subtract about a second for each). Using it with any other watch is a death sentence.

What it does is make a terrible weapon in competitive (where there is actual communication between players) into an completely unplayable one. In pubs it's just a downgraded version of it's former self in most cases except for the instance of stab-and-sap of an engi.

I think the best way to sum it up is that it's now the Black Box of Spy when fighting engis.
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>>180471994
I said picked, not automatically assigned by algorithm
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>>180473771
>you
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>>180473101
>Unironically using toxic

kys yourself
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>>180473281
it's full of elitists and they'll kick you if you die once, also it takes forever to find a match
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>>180474169
You really think the current valve team is gonna bother going through the workshop every single week for a rotation of maps
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What community gamemodes are your favorites, anons? Randomizer, Balloon Race, and The Hidden come to my mind.
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>>180474321
>literally less than 5 minutes per week
Yes, I honestly believe even they could muster that amount of effort
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>>180473609
In the beginning it would take 20 minutes or more for a casual game and more-than-likely it would be 3 v 10 for the first round of it. The second round would be something like 8 v 10 but also have to complete the round in 3 minutes, otherwise lose. Win or loss in this 3 minute time window, this was followed by the game ending and the server booting everybody for another 20 minute wait.

Now those problems are 20% fixed but it'd probably still be more confusing than tc_hydro for new players.
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notice how scout's crutches were nerfed much more significantly than spy's but i haven't heard a single scout main complain about it

>>180474481
6v6
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>>180474501
Yes, they could, but would they?
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>>180474194

no that's the spies and battle medics anon they do not know how to play

replays on valve servers when?
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>play overwatch
>realize its absolute dogshit and every patch makes the game worse
>come back to tf2

I mean tf2 has been suffering from "each patch making the game worse" syndrome for a while too, but their patches are so infrequent that you can have a stable game for a year which means the game maintains quality for a lot longer than OW
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>>180474194
I am literally correct though, there are people who join servers, don't know how to do shit besides pressing W and M1 and ruin the game for everyone involved

the only way anyone can support the current state is if you're the kind of shithead who joins a pub just to get easy frags
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Am I the only one who is threatened by the bonk changes? Bonk made baby face still usable.
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I'm scared, anons.

I think this update is going to suck.
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>>180475059
did you read the balance blog
the only way this is going to suck is if they change all of that imo, i don't even need the pyro changes
pretty sure they will release a separate blog post about pyro /soon/ too
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>>180471434
First part here:
>>180444780

Second part:
>FoS to slow down Heavy slightly when pulled instead of losing effective healing, that forces them to eat Steak if they wanna fight
>Eviction Notice to have its damage vulnerability back instead of being a watered down version of GRU
>"I have no strong opinion about GRU sorry!" I fucked up there actually sort of
>B.A.S.E Jumper should have its re-deploy ability but still lose their air control
>Equalizer should penalize the player about fall damage taken when deployed so it pairs with Mantreads better
>Rescue Ranger to have a reverse repair intensity fall off like Crusader's Crossbow additionally
>Southern Hospitality having a new ability of destroying a building and damaging anyone nearby with a large explosion, ignoring Sappers attached

I forgot to touch about; Steak, Dalokoh's and perhaps a few more on Engineer (Pomson) and Scout (Shortstop shove ability)
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>>180475059
Am I the only one who feels like Pyro is incapable of fixing? He should have never been put into the game in the first place

>have clearly defined roles with clearly defined weapons which have clearly defined ranges of enagement
>DUDE LETS PUT A FLAMETHROWER GUY IN THERE LMAO

pyro in tf2 is like putting a boat in forza
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>>180474985
I think that's the point of that nerf, to funnel people into using BFB with it. It'll be fine as long as you keep Wrap Assassin to maintain Boost.
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I appreciate that they're trying to make the dead ringer less stupid to play against, but they really need to fix the feign mechanic entirely, it's been so badly bugged forever
-spy's death cry follows him instead of coming from the corpse
-fake ragdoll conspicuously curls up like it's having a boneitis attack
-feign randomly triggers Dom/revenge announcement
-holy mackarel on feigning spy doesn't show a kill in the kill feed
-disguise smoke follows cloaked spy (this is the worst one ffs fix this valve)
It barely does its job of fooling enemies so spy mains resorted to using it as a get-out-of-jail, but now it won't even be very good at that either unless they fix all the dumb little bugs
Also it plays the BRAAAAAAP when it activates and it definitely didn't at one point and it triggers me
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>>180475059
its a shit and basic balance update what do you expect

it should be only giving the bad and underutilized weapons improvements like the panic attack (good balance) instead of gimping alternative ways to play because hurrrrr this is sometimes unfair in this very specific situation.
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>>180475443
Pyro and Spy were pretty much grandfathered in from TFC. They were also the two worst classes in that game as well.

It's like afterburn's main purpose is to teach pubbers that "mediks r gud."
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>>180476028
I actually like the current panic attack a lot, I'd prefer if they created a new weapon with its stats. But overall I agree with you.
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>>180476028
>it should be only giving the bad and underutilized weapons improvements like the panic attack (good balance) instead of gimping alternative ways to play because hurrrrr this is sometimes unfair in this very specific situation.

this
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>>180476028
>balance creep: the post
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>>180476712
Balance creep is a good thing.
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>>180476771
if valve allowed balance creep, after 10 years of updates basic gameplay would be like x10 servers

>inb4 muh slippery slope
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+rep good trader
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>>180475798
All of these "bugs" are intended "features". Deadringer emits disguise smoke when you disguise while under the effects of feign speed boost. Rest just makes it obvious.
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>>180476028
Something can be both balanced *and* unfun to play against.
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>>180475798
spot on, it's going to be either shit or annoying to play against with pretty much no middle ground as long as it's broken
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>>180476028
>ur not alloud to nerf ANYTHIN
>ESPECIALLY my crutc- i mean alternative playstyless
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>>180444780
>DR to get a cloak duration cut down to 5.5s and slower recharge, still can replenish cloak so it's easier to track down
this really makes me think as I often use knowledge of ammo pack placements to track down dead ringers, why are people complaining about this proposed by valve nerf if it essentially will make spies harder to find?

>Amby gets a slightly longer recovery time but still perfectly accurate at long distances.
it's the first shot being too powerful over too long distances being the biggest problem though, not the too fast recovery - just make it deal less damage over long distance

>DDS to get a slight crit resistance added, no health addition and only saves your ass from Amby/Dback crits without overheal
I like them making it anti-pyro instead of another option directly countering spy

>Razorback increases melee damage but overheal decays faster and has a slower healrate, doesn't replenish after a while
again, the problem is that when sniper gets pocketed by medic in comp, there's no way for either sniper or spy to kill him easily basically, their proposed fix for this may be deemed a bit extreme, but at least then sniper will be able to take out other razorback sniper easily and your proposition completely misses the point

>told them to not kill Sandcleaver combo totally, but slowdown the draw time on Cleaver and allow moonshots to stun only instead
I'm also against killing off the combo completely, but current sandman stun mechanic needs to go entirely and how valve want to make it is fine in theory just because it's so stupid for someone to stun you with a random shot across the map, make guillotine mini crit instead of full crit on stuns and slowdowns and remove mini crits on long range and it's fine imo
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>>180476712
Not him but I'd rather have a game where things are getting stronger, than a game where everything is getting weaker.

Nerf-heavy balance philosophies are like videogame communism. In the end everybody ends up poor as fuck
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The Righteous Bison
>Now deals a flat 60 damage, ignoring distance from target
>Changed projectile speed to be the same as when it was first released
>Damage is no longer reduces after penetrating an enemy
>Still only deals damage once per enemy.
Would it finally be used again?
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>>180478527
Why was this nerfed in the first place? It was never OP desu
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>>180475430
>FoS to slow down Heavy slightly when pulled instead of losing effective healing, that forces them to eat Steak if they wanna fight
this shit is absolutely for anything but fighting with them, also you misunderstood their intent - heavy gets pocketed hard and can hug the payload cart and point with a medic with fists of steel out stupidly well, their change should be fine

>Eviction Notice to have its damage vulnerability back instead of being a watered down version of GRU
making it not have damage vulnerabilty makes them more viable to fight with and requires effort in health management from the player, it's exactly what this weapon needed

>B.A.S.E Jumper should have its re-deploy ability but still lose their air control
the opposite actually should happen, air control requires skill, redeploying the parachute leads extreme to abuse in hands of skilled players

>Rescue Ranger to have a reverse repair intensity fall off like Crusader's Crossbow additionally
I like it

>Southern Hospitality having a new ability of destroying a building and damaging anyone nearby with a large explosion, ignoring Sappers attached
lol what
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>tfw got facestabbed by robospy
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>>180478581
something something mvm
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>>180478390
The balance of a game is dictated by the best options, not the worst options.
Crappy unlocks like sun on a stick and third degree are dumb but otherwise harmless. Busted shit like danger shield and vitasaw are so bad they have to be banned or they destroy variety and diversity of choice if you allow them.
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>>180454006
definitely more op than taking a door full of pills and rockets

right?
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>>180478390
in communism you can't be poor or rich as there is no wealth
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>>180477701
i agree. every tf2 class should have an awp equivalent.
>>180477962
with all these nerfs intended to remove "randomness" from weapons you'd think they'd first remove random crits for publords like yourself
>ambassador
>DR
>atomizer
>guillotine
>base jumper
>RR
>crutches
only in pubs lmao
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new format

everyone is forced to pick random class every single life
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>>180479616
that's a cool idea to work off. everyone has to play a random class and you get to see your next 3-5 classes you'll spawn as after death, like in tetris you see your next 3 upcoming blocks.
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>>180479194
>dead ringer isnt a crutch its an alternative playstyle
get a load of this spy
do you find the desire to tamp down on unlocks that completely outclass everything else like the rescue ranger and atomizer unreasonable as well
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>>180473002
A tour is a bunch of mission of the same difficulty (Expert tour have 3 mission for instance) You complete it when you've done all the missions for one difficulty

As >>180473101 said MVM is full of elitists but i enjoy playing MVM i have 200 tour in expert and won 8 australiums .

In my opinion play MVM if :

-You have at least 3 friends with you (You can't be kicked that way)
-Know at least the basics of each class (in MVM of course)
-Aren't tired of doing the same thing over and over

Consults some guides , try on bootcamp first , learn the meta and screw it after maybe we'll see you in game
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>>180479967
do you fail at everything in life besides your 3000 hour invested game and need to cry about things that slightly deviate from the intended role a class plays? (yes)
just stop crying pubbie
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atomizer change is stupid though, especially the switch speed penalty

atomizer fix

+triple jump with no self damage
-all jumps have purple dust for easy weapon recognition
-wearer takes 100% mini crits while airborne, even on normal jumps
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>can't break payload first spawncamp spam with the fists of steel anymore
I thought I was the only one who knew about this item's potential
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>>180480615
>wearer takes 100% mini crits while airborne, even on normal jumps
>pic

id rather it be wearer takes crits only on third jump and while still airborne
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>>180480615
fuck off
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>>180481749
Bitch
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>>180482020
>>>/reddit/
>>>/facepunch/
>>>/steamforums/
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Real fragger's question coming though
http://www.strawpoll.me/13259391
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>>180448901
Only retarded kids won't use adblock and those don't mind the mid-roll ads. By no means do I think YT is a respectable job for most content creators but whatever
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Why isn't there a ''turn the fuck around you inbred goddamn retard holy shit what are you doing'' voiceline

Most players don't seem to understand what ''help'' means
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>>180454330
citation needed
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>>180463741
>caring about cheevos
seriously just sampick them if you're going to ruin everyone's day at an attempt at getting the achievements. You're no worse than loadout fags.
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>>180480315
you really just don't get it
some of those unlocks are getting nerfed BECAUSE they edge all the other options out into "alternative ways"
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>>180474923
This is because of there not being a ranking system. Tutorials literally only teach people how to play the game wrongly. This is the same for dota
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>>180483738
Spy literally has a use for every single watch. They're all situational. You just don't play spy do you?
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>>180483392
achievements actually acknowledge you to play the game the way it was intended, there's no achievements for market gardening and other stupid shit like that on the other hand
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>>180484026
>achievements actually acknowledge you to play the game the way it was intended,
If it was everyone would have all the achievements.
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>>180484026
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>>180483790
>dota player thinking he has any other than an absolutely worthless opinion when it comes to a first person shooter
wew lad
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>>180483961
>muh theorycrafting
even valve recognized the design issues faster than you and that is saying something
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>>180484339
>you've played a game
Amazing observation

>>180484358
>but Valve
Has less knowledge on the game and has like 2 people working on tf2 at best. Where did I deny any 'design issues'? Christ the average poster on tf2g is so fucking awful.
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>>180484339
>implying you can't be good at multiple games
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>>180484585
>i kno tf2 better than valve
fix spy to be comp viable if youre so great
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>>180485238
>I just wanted you to look at my reaction image
duly noted
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>>180485238
remove him
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>>180484185
nice cherry picking

>>180484101
well yeah, not everyone but only the good players not counting all those who use shit like SAM, because many achievements require actual effort and skill from the player, aren't just random and are important for your team to win

there are stupid achievements too of course, but not really that many now that I look at them
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>>180484585
>Where did I deny any 'design issues'?
It's implicitly inferred when you claimed that the cloaks "all have a use" and are "all situational." As if they all complemented each other just right.
When they don't.
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>>180485757
>cheevos take skill
say no more
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>>180485757
>give an example
>nice cherry picking
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>>180484874
if you play any kind of dota like game then you should stay away from everything else, those games are garbage and if you enjoy them there's something clearly wrong with you
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>>180485986
>As if they all complemented each other just right.
Dunno how you would go about that. But all the more power to you. I'm sure it could be improved. But denying classes a role just because it isn't their 'original' goes directly against Valve's reason to make unlockables in the first place

>>180486091
Dota is lots of fun mate. Maybe one day if you've got friends you can see just how fun it is.
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>>180486091
>doesn't understand personal taste
is this a /v/ thing or a /4chan/ thing
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>>180486252
It's a /people/ thing.
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>>180483961
>stock invis watch
>situational
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>>180486343
>not wearing the bootenkhamuns
fortunate son/10
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How much were the previous campaign passes? I want to make sure I have enough for one after the sale
>>180486496
Is that good?
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>>180486424
read >>>180485317
I realize it's simple Reddit culture. But I never understood the point of including text with your reaction image. It kind of seems to miss the point of a reaction image.
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>>180485757
Achievements can be made with different purposes in mind.
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>>180486585
previous passes were around $6

your loadout fits the theme but it doesn't have one cosmetic I think would make it look better. think of it as a 9.5/10
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was away all day until just now, did anything remotely interesting happen here
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>>180486782
Thanks for the info my man
>>180486852
Unless you missed the balance post somehow, no
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>>180486852
I watched this pretty good scifi anime from 1999.
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>>180454330
This desu, the stock watch is superior in every way. Only reason I use the dead ringer is top gunspy on shit like Turbine, 2fort and Viaduct
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>>180486003
let me show you examples of achievements that you never got in normal play:

>Scout - Capture the enemy intelligence 3 times in a single CTF round.
>Soldier - Get 3 dominations in a single life.
>Kill 50 Heavies with your flamethrower.
>Using the Scottish Resistance, kill 3 players in separate explosions without placing new sticky bombs.
>Heavy - Be the first on your team to start capturing a control point in a round.
>Help a single building tank over 2000 damage without being destroyed.
>Hit enemies with your bonesaw 5 times in a row without dying or missing.
>While using The Classic, kill a rocket/grenade jumping enemy in midair with a full charge, no-scope, headshot.
>Get a Revenge kill with a backstab.
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>>180454834
Sweet pepper, onion, and mushroom
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>>180486608
reaction images are the quickest way to refute uninformed morons who think they know shit and then jump assfirst into a discussion and then try to prove a point that has already been debunked over and over
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>>180487034
These kind of ignorant posts piss me off. Either agree that the DR was OP or agree that the stock watch is superior every way.

>>180487124
>normal play
>have to pick scout and have to be the one to get the capture. Meaning you'll stop playing the objective and just rush in.
There. Already debunked your shitty argument. Shit man. I've got 3k hours in tf2 and cheevos are literally chore simulators. No I won't pick a useless pyro weapon so I can get a kill underwater. Fuck this noise. You're cancer.
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>>180486204
>having friends who play garbage like dota
>having irl friends who play video games in general
is this reddit now?
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>>180454834
this >>180487173 but replace the sweet pepper with pepperoni
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>>180487301
>the one to get the capture
>Meaning you'll stop playing the objective and just rush in.
but capturing intel is literally the point of CTF maps lol

I bet you're one of those idiots complaining about capping on hightower
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>>180474481
Prophunt. Tf2's is more fun than gmod's
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>>180487301
DR isn't op. It's fucking obnoxious.
Even Stabby agrees.
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>>180487291
>please look at my reaction image
say no more

>>180487335
having 'internet friends' or 'IRL friends' makes no difference when it comes to a team-game. I realize you don't go team up in a casual game such as tf2 but in a game that is clearly geared towards balanced play it's a must. I can understand not comprehending how fun such a game can be if you have no friends though. Then you'd have to team up with retards and while in tf2 you may carry your useless team or still derive fun out of 1v1 scenarios (at least I do because I play tf2 on a casual level), but in Dota a team is pretty much required in order to have a good time.

>>180487497
>but capturing the intel is the point
Tf2 is a team game. Going in as a scout just because you want the achievement goes directly against that. CTF is a shit mode anyways. No one should play it.

>>180487594
And I agree as-well. But turning it useless (literally) isn't a solution. The Amby nerf is my only real issue though. Though I don't find dealing with other DR spies an issue. You just shoot at them when they approach and don't chase them to the next metal because they're meant to be a distraction. Literally nothing wrong if you keep checking your back like you should be doing to begin with. It's your fault for chasing them.
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>>180487301
>>180487497
btw shotgun is actually the best pyro secondary if used properly, all flare guns can't compare in dps and you would know that if you knew how to play
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>>180487843
scout literally is best class for completing objectives generally, not going as scout when there is not a single one on the team is basically almost as much throwing as not having a medic and by completing objective you literally help your team in best way that you can - by winning the game
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So how many games did you buy yet?
>>
Zilch

The Homies need to do some searching so we can figure out more fun games for us to play
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>>180488347
none, because fuck valve until they fix TF2
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>>180488345
>scout literally is best class for completing objectives generally
It depends on the rest of the team composition and the enemy's.

>>180488000
Huh, I thought the achievement required you to use some weird axe. But in general going underwater as pyro is already an issue.
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>>180487843
>i can't address his point :(
>if i keep deflecting i wont look butthurt
you know fuckall about tf2 if you think stock cloak watch is "situational"
you should probably leave before you embarrass yourself further
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>>180488347
>the store is under heavy load right now
i'm gonna shoot a heavy load all over my fucking laptop
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>>180487124
>Be the only one going for the intel
>Don't be braindead
>Just play pyro for a while
This one is actually hard, i haven't gotten it yet
>Kill someone on the point on koth, reverse capture
>MvM
>Get ditched by your pocket behind enemy lines and come out alive with full uber
That's another hard one, if only because it requires you to use the classic
>Even the best players get dominated
There now fuck off
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>>180488613
>please look at my reaction image
I won't.

>>180488632
haha, I wondered if he gets embarrassed. Just a thought haha.
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>>180447626
the worst youtube commentary on the changes that I've seen so far and I've listened to like 10 more of them

he has no idea what he is talking about, sounds like an exclusive pub player
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>>180489621
>bonesaw
>full uber
Do I need more proof that achievement faggots don't actually play tf2?
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>>180489918
>sounds like an exclusive pub player
he is
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not bad for about $20
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>>180487124
>>Using the Scottish Resistance, kill 3 players in separate explosions without placing new sticky bombs.
I actually accidentally got this achievement with the default stickybomb launcher, which definitely is a bug according to the wiki. Sticky Thump is a pretty weird achievement.
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>>180490000
both portal games were given out for free.
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>>180489952
Ubersaw is a bonesaw, famalam.
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The Incission
>Stats identical to crossbow
>Healing with bolts provides no Ubercharge
>Healing done with Medigun charges "Incission" meter
>Once full, the next shot will be a guranteed Critical Hit
>No random crits

Would you use it?

The amount of healing done would be decided by playtesting.
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>>180489952
I remember the first time I ever saw another player using the disguise kit taunt during an actual game was the day of the pyro update.
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>>180490000
>epic battle fantasy
it wasn't a flash game on newsground?
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>>180490016
Probably when you get 2 kills with a trap and there's already another sticky on the way that then also kills another dude
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>>180490216
That's retarded. And I genuinely didn't know that.
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>>180489621
you can't get regular achievements in mvm

>>180489952
ubersaw is a type of bonesaw

none of you know shit about this game I swear
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why couldn;t these have been turned into economy items worth gorillions of dolalrs
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>>180490591
>Everybody has 20 of them
Yeah more like gorillions of 3 cents on the community market

lol
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>>180490256
Eh, it encourages crossbow-exclusive healing, a playstyle I find very irritating when my medic tries and fails to do it.
It also disincentivizes the medic from overhealing which is ungood.
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>>180490256
Definitely. 800hp for a crit is a good amount me thjinks
>>180490745
Read it again, it rewards healing with the medigun
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>>180462618
Pyro is fuckin' THICC
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>>180490591
Be honest with me. You've got no job right?
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>>180487301
>Either agree that the dr was op or agree the stock watch is superior in every way
>Stock is superior in every way, I only use the dr to meme on people

? ? ?
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>>180490591
>still have a summer claim check from 2013
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>>180490591
>>180491728
>still have those free xmas backpack expanders I can't trade or use because I'm maxed out
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>>180489825
have you ever been so fucking destroyed in an online conversation you had to pretend that the other side was never arguing with you at all

every time you spew your retarded bullshit at least one faggot in this thread will be able to call you on your stupidity because you are that just low on the pole
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>>180492302
>please look at my reaction image
No thanks
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>>180492365
who are you quoting?
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>>180490256
Needs a damage nerf. Short to med range crossbow hits aren't that tough to make while dealing loadsa damage on a crit.
>>
(You)
>>
how do i reserve a server for fridays match
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>>180492459
It says anonymous.
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>>180490256
How about instead of ANOTHER crit gimmick weapon we come up with something new

Going by image you posted, how about when the meter is full you get to fire 4 shots in a very rapid burst
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>The Wayfarer
lvl fuck sniper rifle
has a fucking telescope for a scope
>-20% damage penalty
>On full charge: +25% damage done
>40% slower charge rate
>User can see enemy outline when scoped
>Distance at which you can see enemy outline is proportional to charge
>500 hammer units at no charge, 1500 at full charge

Give criticism
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>>180493087
>Asks for something new
>Proposes giving the medic the bb
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>>180492598
do you have an official
i always use serveme.tf
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>>180493296
Seems useful, can easily get fags who are hiding around corners. Thing is there isn't really a way for your opponent to know that you can see their every move, perhaps give it a big as glow dot to make it obvious that you're using it?
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>>180493595
making the scope longer will make it more visible
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>>180493296
>120 damage headshots
no thank you
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Why is everybody spamming "boneless pizza"
is this a new hip meme
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>>180493595
Maybe give it the mvm sniper laser
>>180494015
That's the point, it's not made for quickscopes. You'll still get the 450 if fully charged, but being able to see where everybody close to you is AND being able to kill them just by taking a few steps is too much
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fuck kinda pizza?
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>>180495059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uHPn51tC20
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>>180495059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud1JXqGWPvU
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>>180493296
Completely OP for any semi coordinated team
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>>180495142
>>180495125
is this supposed to be funny because I'm not laughing
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does reddit have a point?
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>>180495348
You asked what it was and we told you. Normans like it because you can have a legitimate argument over the legitimacy of a boneless pizza's existence and it uses the dumb :B: New York deadass timbs tier of humor that niggers like so much
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>>180495565
VOLVO PLS DO NOT TOUCH VACCINATORE THANK
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>>180495565
reddit makes me want to kill myself, every time developers listen to them for game balance or changes it always goes wrong

gwent is sadly learning the "listening to reddit" mistake
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>>180495565
>Should the heavy have movement impairing items
>People actually like this idea

Holy shit redditfucks are literally braindead
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>>180495565
>People think that EN will be UP
Are they dumb? Sure you have hp loss, but you're going fast as fuck punching fast as fuck and dealing full damage
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>>180495565
they disagree with ambassador, YER and base jumper so that's good

they also disagree with bonk, flying guillotine and eviction notice and they may be right those need some tweaking in changes, but generally I like the gist of those changes besides that

they disagree with rescue ranger, GRU too though and that's just idiotic, fuck them
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The Vita-saw changes are stupid and ridiculous and make the weapon even more worthless
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>>180495565
Why the fuck are redditors so attached to the bison. I almost never saw it used and yet there's a horde of people lamenting its meganerf. What gives?

And force a nature and huntsman are waayy more deserving of attention.
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>>180496521
the nerf was unjustified and was said to be a "bug fix" which was just fucking ridiculous.
but really the reason reddit likes it is because they're meme loving fucks who latched on to some people being upset about it
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>>180496361
Shut the fuck up
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>quick play
>server votes for 2fort over and over

truly the patricians ctf map
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>still use the loch n load

anybody else
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>"i was friendly! why would you kill the dancing engie? unless you're a tryhard"

son I have just found what seems to be the last remaining vanilla rotation pub server not owned by Valve, please stop fucking this up for me.
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Hol' up, why is this thread full of fucking retarded niggers using retarded reaction picture ? Is the summer thing real ? Can't we just die again ?
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>>180496012
It says movement impacting, not impairing. Basically whether or not items like GRU are good for heavy.
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>On an image board
>Not expecting reaction images
Who is the true newfig here?
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>>180497530
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>>180495565
>Organ collecting too "gimmicky" and hard to understand
How stupid are these people?

>Should heavy have movement impacting items?
>slowest class in tf2
>rollouts really just require the GRU
>removing the GRU would gimp the Heavy and make him getting to mid even more of a challenge
>midfights for heavy are now certain death
>>
Well I'm sorry dude, but I don't expect twitter tier reaction images here.
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How new.
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>muh community servers
I played this game since 2007 and it's way overblown. The problem wasn't valve servers, it was making the game f2p
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How ning.
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>>180496757
>quickplay
>nobody plays god-tier ctf map, Landfall
WHY
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>>180497735
Source? I'm asking for/vp/
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Are we talking about image reactions again?

You morons must have come straight from a reaction image thread on /b/, having saved up 100+ images, and thinking to yourselves "Shit, I need to use these for something". How about deleting them and not having to use them anymore? You don't need reaction images. Just have something smart to say and people will react to that instead. Also, image macros are against the rules

My favorite Team Fortress 2 game mode is Payload
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>>180495565
>all of these "too confusing mechanics"
jesus christ just take a moment to read the post you fucking entitled children
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>>180498123
here's you're you you shitbag tripfag
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>>180497903
Landfall is fun.

>>180498230
Video games shouldn't have to make you think.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x9hRTCVb3w
hnnnnnng
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>>180495565
Am I missing something? mantreads just make the game more casual
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>>180498451
>Picture hovering over the hat
It was cool the first time, now it's just lazy
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>>180498627
what do you mean
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>>180498627
200% better air control when blast jumping = 200% higher skill ceiling for rocket jumping
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>>180493353
>press left mouse button
>rocket launcher fires
woooooooooow it's exactly like the scattergun so uncreative

Seriously though that's a big oversimplification
Tf2 doesn't have any actual burst weapons (yet)
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>>180498827
>200 higher skill ceiling
From what I've seen it's just a slower form of proper rocket jumping
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>>180498627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-alVnATcZmk
this kind of air control is insane and extremely useful in all kinds of situations
granted, its only when you rocket jump, not unlike in the video
but you can do so much with this kind of control
>>180498827
i dont think thats how numbers work
the change doesnt raise the skill ceiling at all, just makes it easier to control
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>>180495565
that wasn't reddit.
that was facepunch.
reddit stole it from facepunch
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>>180495834
>>180495565
vacc is kind of okay right now

I'd really love to either have the passive headshot protection back or finally have a fucking melee shield already though

also buff the QF pls
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>>180499234
does gaypunch still exist?
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>>180499328
yes
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Is the game still going? How much changed when its competitors rolled out?
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>>180499368
do they still exchange nudes?
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>>180499462
yep
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>>180499371
people moved to overwatch out of spite because they hate how valve treats the game
not many people actually enjoy the game, they just play it because its made by a big company and its popular
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>>180499549
Meh. I moved on to the superior 2d anyways
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>>180499371
all the competitors to tf2 are pretty much soulless.
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>>180499179
>the change doesnt raise the skill ceiling at all, just makes it easier to control
which is exactly how raising skill ceiling works - more depending on human input and player's abilities = some can get with it absolutely insane incomparably to regular rocket jumping

just compare like idk chargin targe to tide turner, same thing
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>enemy team is pretty much just 1 publord (((soldier))) with 5! medics up his ass
>they win

this is why we need class limits
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>>180500004
???
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some of you guys are alright

dont go to hightower tomorrow
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>>180500445
Eu or na?
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>>180500004
this is why we don't need class limits, because if you were smart you would counter them with scouts or some shit
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>>180500340
seems about right
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>>180500445
Which server? Valve? Community? Skial? Be specific.
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>>180500445
What map do you mean, and by tomorrow do you mean your tomorrow or my tomorrow?
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>kill friendlies
>massive butthurt ensues
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>>180500569
>go scout
>can't flank them because sentries
>can't engage them directly because soldier's skill floor says ''kill literally (figuratively) everyone by missing them twice''
>at best i kill one or two of his medics
>that's literally (literally) less than 50% of his medic

there is no actual reason there should ever be more than 2 of any class on a 24 player server
prove me wrong
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i hope they remove random crits
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>>180500892
Sounds like you need to git gud.
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>>180500714
>>180500650
>>180500489
I'm literally just shitposting chill
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>>180500996
t. not gud enough to win without his 3 homosexual medic friends
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>kill entire enemy team as <insert class here>
>*DEAD* pablo.pendejo2001: noob class get skill
>switch to the class he was playing
>kill entire enemy team again

is there a better feeling
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>>180501116
Don't you fucking tell to chill when I just asking a question, pal.
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>>180501227
playing a single class 24/7
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>got my first credit card
>just bought lmaobox premium

how fucked am i
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>>180501415
underage
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>http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/scrap.tf/
hahaha jesus christ fuck
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>>180501478
i dont think children are allowed to own credit cards
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Heh. Funny meme
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what's the angriest you've ever been at a tf2
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tfw spent $45 on cheap games and lost my job yesterday

how is your summer coming along, tf2g?
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>>180502440
i spent 50 bucks on hentai games on steam.

okay i guess
>>
Worked today, came back home, did more GTA shenanigans, now I'm chatting with Blaris. Prolly gonna get some OW done
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>>180502440
My cart's up to $90 or so. Need to clean up a bit before I make my final purchase on the final day with 30 minutes remaining in the sale.
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>>180502440
>barely any of my games went on sale
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>>180502440
I don't buy things, like ever. Mowed the lawn today, sprinkled a bit but nothing too bad. Also cleaned out the chicken coop and took a nap. Pretty productive so far today, NEET is so damn comfy
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>>180502827
>cleaned out the chicken coop
where do you live if I may ask
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>>180502980
Small town in Indiana. I'm not third world trash it's just a fun hobby and home grown free range eggs are fucking delicious
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>>180502440
Failed the year, no summer jobs anywhere in my city, renovating the house and waiting for either a game to go on 75% discount or somehow sell a pro vitasaw kit and buy some more shit
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>>180503061
very cool
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Anyone wants to do some MvM? It's been a while
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>>180502980
>not owning chickens
lmao enjoy paying for bland eggs
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>>180503061
>>180502827
110% jealous right now. Do you grow your own food too?
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>>180503595
I did for a few years but the yield wasn't much to brag about. Whole bunch of problems that made be scrap the thing. Attracted a shitload of stinging insects, melons grew way out into the yard and were a bitch to mow around, the shit killed my back, neighbors promised to help in maintaining the thing but never did and just took shit at the end. Thing was a mess. Sure, being able to go outside and eat a tomato or two was pretty cool but not worth it in the long run. One of my neighbors planted like 10 Jalepeno plants and I ended up with two huge ass bags of Jalepenos at the end of the year. Nigga nobody needs that many damn peppers
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>>180503572
buy me tickets this is a stickup
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>>180503998
>10 Jalapenos
Sounds like one of the guys in the >>>/out/ gardening thread.
>>
www.teamfortress.com/jungleinferno
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>sniper starts raping me
>even while I'm doing the gay adad dance, jumping, peeking for a split second, and even not committing to scope
>80% sure he's hacking
>finally headshots me when on fire
>call him out
>sperg acts cocky then this happens not even 1 minute later

why is it always weebs too
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>>180504420
>VAC banned from secure server

this actually happens??????????????????????????????????????????
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Buy my thing
>>
>join turbine server and immediately hear headshot death sounds and see a sniper with double the score of everyone else on the board
>suspicion at a solid 80%
>use my kill bind to spectate him but don't manage to get a good view of him when he's shooting things
>like an idiot mention that i'm speccing him to someone on the other team
>"you do that"
>finally get a good view on him
>suddenly starts missing shots that even i could hit
>it does fool me because i guess i didn't get enough sleep or something and we keep going for a little while
>"i could just be a smurf"
>suspicion immediately aroused back to 100%
>casually spectate him after "accidentally" dying
>jittery ass camera movement and hitting headshots that are nowhere near the head
>kick him
no one who's smurfing ever admits they're a smurf, it defeats the entire fucking purpose
>>
>>180505075
>i was having such a hard time spectating him!
why didn't you just go CnD spy
>>
>>180504848
if you post avatar sauce
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>>180505251
because i was on his team, what would going spy have done for me there
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>>180505368
iuno you didn't say that
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>>180505276
It's not porn
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>>180505458
how would i have kicked him or spectated him in the first place then
>>
So do after-round kills count on stattrack weapons or not?
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>>180505368
>bind f9 "extendfreeze"
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>>180505574
yes, any kind of kill will count towards a strange weapon
there is a strange part with post-round kills too just for that occasion
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Ambassador was a stupid idea in the first place. Feeding the delusions of spy mains into believing their class takes some absurd level of skill is ludicrous. There is a great charm in the character of spy, but unfortunately it creates delusions of grandeur for the people who decide they want to "main" this """"relatively"""" useless class to any team, be it comp or casual.

You have all seen it.Just look at all the shit players who dm with it and the dr on hightower or maybe turbine who can't aim for shit and, HOLY shit if they get a headshot suddenly they believe they actually have skill, and then realize 102 damage is not a significant damage threshold in this game and they dr to get away, and the cycle continues. I swear more players stagnate in skill because of this than anything else in the vanilla game, not including hale mode, or deathrun or anything like that.

It's honestly a very degenerative feedback loop in the game, and i think everyone on here could even admit they have done this before.
>Pic unrelated
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>>180505537
i only read like the first 7 lines before replying desu
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>>180505676
I can safely say that I've fallen for the amby meme. Used to run it 124/7 and always go for headshots, rarely did I ever actually hit anybody but the few times I did it made me feel like I was some platinum level fuccboi so I kept using it. Stock is the way to go, consistent, easy to use, and helps with simple tracking, a skill that transfers onto other classes really damn easily
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>>180505665
I asked because my dead ringer doesn't count upon fall damage feign. Honestly wish they'd disable that.
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>>180505965
>124/7
not
>102/7
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>>180506728
>owning a strange dead ringer
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How do you see tf2 in 3 years?
>>
>>180506901
being 3 years older
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>>180506901
With thicker glasses
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>>180506901
still getting cases and wacky hats
probably some other feature nobody asked for
either with slightly improved casual mode or no official servers at all
its definitely going to have players
>>
>108 posters
Jesus christ what
Is this the power of real updates?
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>>180507357
it didnt even hit yet
people are just so excited to hear something from valve for once
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>>180507602
spymains.jpg
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>>180506901
People will still play

I don't see this game being completely dead for a long time, even if content grinds to a halt.
>>
>>180502440
I've got two summer jobs :^)
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what would you do
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new sapper
sap bot

spy tosses down a small sapper with legs that looks like a spider
it has maybe 80 health and can walk around slowly
it can walk towards enemy buildings and sap them, so long as its within its radius and it can draw a walk path, otherwise it just sits there and spy can pick it back up

10 seconds recharge time
if you throw down a new one the old one breaks

good?????
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjip33CzWyU
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>>180507357
Just you wait until the Pyro update actually drops. We'll be one of the most active threads on the board again
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>>180505965
i'm glad someone at least someone understands
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this will not end well
>>
>>180508590
I've got two summer jobs too :^(

I miss my free time
>>
>>180508929
So you a middle, opener or closer? Both jobs jave me as a closer and it kind of sucks desu
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>>180508910
oh relax, team balance issues have largely been overexagg-
>upward
good luck my friend
>>
>>180509485
>One kunai/DR spy kept wrecking my team on attack
>Defense round, 6 spies
end me
>>
why does it seem like everyone in this thread has less than 2k hours xD?
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>>180509759
k e k
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>>180506818
It's like 1 hour of flipping burgers. Much less for anyone with an actual job
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>>180505478
still cute
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>>180510227
>a strange dead ringer costs $10
>>
>>180510381
I wouldn't know. It's literal peanuts though.
>>
>>180510452
it's 94 cents on the scm. if you make 94 cents an hour flipping burgers, you must live in a 3rd world country.
>>
>>180510452
its like one dollar dude
>>
Its funny because a strange dead ringer tracks how bad you are
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>>180510626
I think you lacking reading comprehension is the reason you don't have a job

>>180510668
How much do peanuts cost?
>>
>>180510728
>it's like one hour of flipping burgers
>it's actually 10 minutes of flipping burgers
>haha you lack reading comprehension
>>
>>180510128
Somehow we held, mostly due to me and another soldier running buff banner, a med that knew what he was doing and a breddy gud sniper
Never again tho
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>>180510928
You have enough and get paid by the hour. I really don't see how this is such a foreign concept to you
>>
sup niggas
>>
yo
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>>180452798
>>
ew
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>playing ctf
>set up defenses as engineer and literally spam chat until someone man up and guard my sentry in the intel room
>equip eureka
>make teleporter
>ninja when everyone is dead/busy pushing
>team now has a free spawn on intel room
>win game ez

so why do people complain about dm_2fort and dm_turbine so much?
>>
>>180512001
yikes
>>
Is the Pyro/Jungle update coming out next week or what?
>>
>>180512456
it's certainly coming out at some point
>>
>>180512276
I know it's hideous, but I unboxed it, so I am not ashamed.
>>
i'm certainly coming out at some point.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1W8BZPf-N8
In case you haven't seen it yet. Crowcat's video on this is still better due to Junke feeling the need to run his mouth way too fast as a "joke" but it still gets the point across. Valve won't do anything though
>>
>>180512583
Little bit late to make a video about it now
>>
>whn you frag HARD but you're still just a man and can't help it if your team is being raped by spies
>>
>when you FRAG as a class and five minutes later the enemy has four of you
>>
>when a really good scout calls you a good scout

fuck you
>>
>>180513564
>when you FRAG as a class and five minutes later your team has four of your class
>>
>when you try to FRAG but some guy got butthurt and start hacking
>>
>>180507602
what happened to him
>>
>>180515171
Probably nothing.
>>
>when you FRAG as pyro specifically and the enemy runs 8 pyros to prove a point about pyro being easy or something(?) but they're all shit and you kill 6 of them before dying to a random crocket
>>
>>180515171
Literally nothing.
>>
>>180515171
Literally something.
>>
>>180508910
>ping 330
is the ping a feature I have to edit back in or is that competitive mode and I only played casual?
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>brass knuckles do less damage than your own fists
What did they mean by this? I want this to be kown
>>
>>180515880
its in the options menu
you just have to look really hard
its probably under the scoreboard settings
>>
epic trash meme my friend
>>
>>180515635
>Kill someone over and over as pyro
>They switch to pyro
Why does this happen so often and specifically with pyro? At least others will switch to the perceived counter class(and still die), but when you frag hard as pyro apparently people's brains must break or something if they also go pyro to try to get revenge kills.
>>
>>180516292
pyro doesnt take afterburn damage
going pyro against another pyro is literally a crutch

that being said, pubs are completely devoid of any common sense

i had a match where it was only me and another guy against a team consisting of 4 or 5 pyros and even though we both went engineer and shredded them, they still refused to switch to any other class and clean up our nests
>>
>>180516541
>Not going heavy + vaccinator medic and reaping sweet pyro tears
>>
>>180516058
they are removing the damage penalty anon, don't worry
>>
>>180516618
other guy could barely keep his own sentry up, not even mentioning he couldnt repair mine despite staring at it with the rescue ranger pulled out
also pyro has shotgun
>>
>>180516885
theyre removing damage vulnerability, not the damage penalty
its the gru that gets the damage penalty removed
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>mfw i searched pyro on furaffinity
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>>180501415
>getting lmaobox instead of nullcore
>>
>>180518001
I've used lmaobox many times and had no troubles. Is Null Core legit?
>>
>>180516885
Even if they remove the damage penalty, they should be doing more damage than the fists.
>>
>>180518696
and they are, you are hitting the poor sod 4x faster than usual
>>
>>180518352
Yeah, afaik hasn't been detected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydlS-_cs2tI
>>
>Cheating in a multiplayer video game
Why do you do it?
>>
>>180519031
they aren't capable of being better then garbage, so they cheat
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>>180517962
STOP MAKING WAVES
>>
>cheating at all in a way that isn't ridiculous and absurd like making cars fly or turning dinosaur poop into rocks
why do you hate fun
>>
xxxtentacion
>>
Kanye West
>>
>>180518932
Wow, that really is amazing.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvilnmPoPRk

haha, look at this great weapon concept. doesnt this look fun to fight? this "sweedy" guy sure is good at coming up with weapon concepts, and you all should totally donate to him :)
>>
>Cheating
>Fun
You aren't winning with your own skill, you have a program playing the game for you. That is not fun. Only children who have been raised in a "everyone gets a medal!" society think that's fun.
>>
who cares
>>
>>180518932
>needs hacks
>those pathetic attempts at sticky jumping
>can't kill a sentry as an esp aimbotting demo
>can barely type
what a sad bunch of manchildren
>>
>>180520015
It makes people feel good when they trick their brain into thinking they are better than all the rest. I wouldn't call it fun, it's more... "entertaining."
>>
>>180519727
this isnt even that bad
its just a concept, just like all other weapons
"what if rockets could pull instead of push?"
sure its ridiculous, but its just a concept
>>
>>180520257
shit I mean I'd give a vacuum launcher a shot, it's a unique little idea and it ain't gamebreaking, so it's already better than like 40% of valve stats
>>
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>Guy has Turk in his name
>Blaring some foreign pop
>Tell him to shut his roach mouth
>"I'm not a Turk"
>What
>"Dude this is k pop"
>Dude you have Turk in your name
>"It's a joke lol"
How the hell was I supposed to know
>>
>>180520650
What would the benefit of using it be though?
>>
>>180520812
fun I guess, suck people around corners or keep a group pegged in place to get splashed to death, who knows
it's not even that good an idea but it's better than
>hard counter your hard counter
or
>-10 damage +1 ammo
like valve likes to shit out
>>
>>180520812

Flavor. I use the cow mangler for this very reason.
>>
>>180516058
if you're as massive as heavy and have wrists thicker than a fucking elephant, you can't exactly use traditional tools without pulling a ligament or tendon. this is why heavy uses his fists by default. he literally has to pull his punches when wielding brass knuckles to avoid self harm, so punches do less damage but he also doesn't commit as much to each punch, resulting in faster refire.

this may sound like bullshit but it actually does happen to some weightlifters
>>
>>180521084
That is really good reasoning, I never though about it like that.
>>
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>>180521084
Huh, that actually makes sense
>>
>>180518932
While hacks are impressive for just how in depth they are. This video ultimately sums up just how boring hacking is. I skimmed through the video and it's just boring.
>>
>>180521714
There were a few good parts as demoman, but otherwise it was him typing or being bad at the game.
>>
>>180520257
>>180520650
>get hit by a rocket
>get hit by every other rocket easily because I cant escape
>soldier never has to worry about airshots because im pulled to the ground predictably where the rocket just hit, rather than popped up
>cant even surf them away
i dont like these new people, theyre not smart.
>>
>>180521925
>black box and liberty launcher's penalties rolled into one weapon
>its too good because it can pull instead of push i hate it
thats ridiculous
not to mention soldier already has a weapon that is ten times better at dealing airshots

i dont like it for different reasons, to me it seems like a crutch to allow easy shots and soldier has enough primaries, but dismissing it immediately is no way to be
>>
guys
guys
what
what if
jungle update adds fempyro cosmetic
>>
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=951969457
as cool as this is, I don't see it getting added because valve doesn't add items with vac banned accounts attached.
>>
>>180523848
shitter shatterer
>>
>>180523848
the quick fuck
>>
>>180523848
the yiffinator
>>
>>180523848
medics aren't a real class
>>
>>180523848
benis :^)
>>
>>180523848
Valve plz buff
>>
>>180523848
XD
>>
>>180523848
the shit quick yiff medic benis
>>
>>180523848
Viva's Ultra Life Beam
>>
>>180523848
Caduseus Staff
>>
>>180523848
starboy
>>
>>180523848
Enjoy your three day vacation ,':^)
>>
>>180523848
7
>>
>>180523848
daily dose
>>
>>180523848
thanks doc
>>
>>180523848
cummy dispenser
>>
>>180523848
*<|',:^Â¥ IT'S A PARTY!!!! *<|',:^Â¥
>>
>>180523904
I doubt valve cares
>>
>>180523848
The Pink Cunny
>>
>>180523848
Cheatboys Minigun
>>
>>180523848
holy fuck are we really going 80+ responses without the get again
>>
>>180524463
they do
>>
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>>180524567
HE HAS SPOKEN
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frick
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>>180440578
Stock Scattergun is best primary. Mad Milk is good for you & your team. Melee? I use the Fan O' War. It lets me get mini-crits, rewards me for flanking/outmaneuvering enemies, and has none the the Shit-A-Cola guilt.
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>>180524743
Good.....good.....alll according to plan.
>>
>>180524607
>>180524692
>>180524824
everyone knows cheatboy is vipes
>>
guys
guys hear me out
what if
demoman shield with 100% immunity to knockback including airblast
>>
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Vipes is no where near the same realm as cheatboy, don't even COMPARE the two you troglodyte.
>>
What do you guys think of the Enforcer?
>>
>>180525075
will be great the moment it actually ignores damage reduction properly
>>
demoman shield

+boosts grenades with mini crits and crits depending on distance travelled
+lets you turn on an axis while charging forward to aim (doesn't let you change movement direction)
-no resistances
-doesn't boost melee
>>
Arn Anderson? One of the greatest of all time
>>
>>180525191
Wth*ck why even have it as a shield if it doesn't have resistances?
>>
>>180525257
aerodynamic jetpack shaped like a shield
>>
>>180525048
explain vipes and cheatboy
>>
Vipes is a dude who stole people's ideas and uploaded them to the workshop, apparently

The other is just a forced meme created by that one guy and another avatar he could avatarpost with
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCs_uJt4rnc
lol
>>
The Phlogistinator

Level 10 Flame Thrower
+100% damage bonus
Does not requires ammo
No random critical hits
No airblast

Being a revolutionary appliance capable of awakening the fire element phlogiston that exists in all combustible creatures, which is to say, all of them. All of them. Wearer can be ignited.
>>
>>180525517
>Vipes is a dude who stole people's ideas and uploaded them to the workshop,
got any more? what did he steal?
>>
>>180525621
they need to fix the phlogistinator's broken range, it's actually shorter than the particles stretch to
>>
>>180525589
why does he pretend to have a voice like that? didn't really bother with the rest of the vid
>>
>>180525589
>chill chullo
Eww
>>
>>180525589
his mouse sens is too high for him to be remotely good with this gun
>>
>>180526271
>>180526271
>>180526271
>>
>>180526224
>40k kills
>20k headshots
I think he's good with it alright.
>>
>>180473101

>t- buttmad spyfag
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