/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

monster knot

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>>173412709

>tfw Mantis weapons are the definitive best weapons in the game
>tfw nothing is even close to 330 raw, neutral affinity, three slots, natural sliver of purple
I HATE this meta

>>173412913
use sns, db, or ig

>>173412913
>there at least five newfags trying to force their own memes in this general

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>>173413146
"Grandpa" is still the best forced meme

I hate fighting Raths

>>173413208
Is this a Gundam reference?

>>173413314
dixit granpa forcer

>>173413382
I love fighting raths

I hate fighting crabs

>>173413497
I hate fighting monsters.

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>>173413413
Christianity reference

Translate the first page of the Quick Chat please.

Reminder not to bully cute-ku

can i get a quick rundown on Teo Tesukatoru?
these explosions seem to be random and instant

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>parts needed
>rath gleam x3

>>173413649
all his explosions are preempted by a visual where they'll strike, just watch for them. except the supernova, just get away when you see it fly up. or the G rank snipe nova, which can be prevented by staying close.

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It appears that I have too many reaction images of monsters

So now, I require pics of HUNTERS

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>>173415329

What are some good GS sets in xx? Also, can we expect athena's ASS any time soon for xx?

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>>173415329
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>>173415897
Only reason to watch that shitty anime, even the LN sucks.

Anyone else making multiple sets of the same armour to transmog for different weapons?

I love the look of my lance set but it just doesn't work for SnS.

I'm thinking of getting my hands on a MH for my 3DS, but I'm not sure which one to pick up.
Should I pick up MH3U or a 4th gen game?
In the later case, is MHGen a new version of MH4U or a sort-of-4.5 gen?
If you recommend MHGen over MH4U, should I wait for an eventual MHXX international release (I don't wish to hack my 3DS) or get MHGen now?
In case previous experience with the series is relevant, I was introduced to MH with Tri, and I'm currently playing MHFU.

tl;dr: MH3U, MH4U, MHGen or MHXX once it's international?

>>173416131
3U and 4U

>>173416131
Don't play Gen. 3U and 4U are both good games.

>>173416131
4U
No, Yes
Crack XX, It bombed they won't localize it
Play 4U

>>173416131
4U is the best starting point
XX isn't localized yet.
Don't get Gen.
3U for 3ds can't go online without a wii u.

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>>173416071
>Have been fighting Hyper Jho upwards to 25 times by now making all these Esurient XR pieces, both BM and Gunner for all the different weapons I use
>Have even more unique pieces to make still since I'm such an autist that needs a different themed transmog for each weapon set
Just end me senpai

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>mfw mhx/xx village 5*

i'm done is it viable to rank up with hub instead? I know it will be harder but I just want to fight monsters and get loot. Not do some mmo questline shit.

whats the point of playing monster hunter if all i can do is hunt monsters? where is my endgame???

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>>173416416
>Monster Hunter
>"wtf I hate hunting monsters?!"

>>173416201
>>173416208
>>173416269
What's wrong with MHGen and XX, if I may ask? Should I care about MHXX if it gets localized?
I guess I'll go with 4U, though.

>>173416303
if you put up with it a bit more, there are some monsters with equipment you might like in 6*. that said, you can go to hub now, if you want.

>>173416552
Terrible direction, no.

>>173416552
XX is the g-rank version of gen ergo gen is a scam.
Both.... experimented a lot and made a shit ton of questionable decisions that were hyped up then turned out to be worthless, halfassed, or boring. The transition from gen to XX also confirmed, again, that the people who make these games don't play them and don't know what they're doing.

Ichinose doesn't deserve the sales he gets.

>>173416552
Nothing, it's their autism

>>173416697
I don't get it, but I guess it's about MHGen/XX. Could you explain?

>>173416552
Nothing.

It's just 4Ubabs having nostalgia for their first MH and shitting on every subsequent game.

>>173416663
I'll try looking at it now I can get some flagship monster stuff so I might make some armor. I'm tired of using this bulldrome jaggi shit.

>>173416752
>>173416763
>>173416895
May I ask some more details? I know just about nothing on the 4th gen.

>>173416843
Terrible direction, it means the directors are terrible. They ignored 10 years of design philosophy to fit the niche they force in their games.
Add to that an awful mess with balance, qol, gear diversity and the new advertised content being a pain in the ass instead of difficult.

can you backup your XX savefiles with JKSM yet?

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Why is /mhg/ still playing XX when they're just talking shit about it? People could always go back to the old games they've been preaching and stay there if they think it's that good, so why?

>>173417483
>Why is /mhg/ still playing XX when they're just talking shit about it?
none of those people are actually playing XX though

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>>173416552
Why gen is inferior to 4U:
>no expeditions
>no guild quests
>no relic gear
>deviant quests are a nightmare grind
>styles and arts are fucking gay
>no disposable earplugs
>mounting isn't broken

>>173417563
At this point shitposting about the game and the general is more customary than actually playing the game.
Everyone will shitpost about how bad their experience playing with /mhg/ meanwhile in the actual turns rooms people are just hunting all chill like.

Is Kecha Wacha really the only fucking G2 set that has Evade Dist Up? I'm trying to make a SA set and I don't have any charms with the skill on it.

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>let's play hbg in the next game because guns are cool
>30 hours in I'm doing everything with gs
why does this always happen

English armorset builder for MHXX when?

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>>173417864
Because you have shit tastes

>>173417653
>expeditions were RNG cancer
>guild quests were RNG cancer
>relic gear was RNG cancer
>deviant quests are grindy but leveling up GQ's isn't?
>not an argument
>casual
>je suis monté

Also
>comparing a G-rank game to a HR game
Gen is analogous to MH4. MHXX is analogous to MH4U.

>>173416843
>>173417014
Here's an autistic list of issues I have with gen/XX:

No material trader
Archaic DB nerf/buff
Locked 30
Particle effects they added, while nice, cause framedrops
Worse textures and shadows
Lighting engine is fucked
Element got kicked in the shins
Monsters change areas more often
Monsters can not be staggered out of the air or killed while retreating
Menus lack the natural, wooden style 4U and 3U were going for
Sets have numbers next to them
Worse font than 4U, english patch fixes this in XX
Deviant quest system is an mmo-tier grind with meaningless varity
High level deviant quests are absolute cancer with respawning secondary monsters in arena
Small monster aggressiveness was turned up to 11
Striker lance charge was only nerfed by 3 mv from gen to XX
Gunlance nerf/buff
Entire game exists just to pander to nostalgia, comes off as soulless
Can't visit old village guild halls or farms
Evasion arts are way too strong
Adept is easy mode
No free hunt
Hypers are just stat inflation mixed with some random timings
So many requests
So many online requests
Can't leave the hub to continue request chains, have to DC
Awful food system
Awful trader system, fuck cats
Disorganized and inflated quest lists full of gathering shit

End of the day though it's still pretty fun. And it did some good things:

Can destroy traps in XX
Can remove all decorations at once
Good monster variety

>>173417014
Fourth Gen began with a large revision to Monster Hunter with the addition of verticality, and it also undid large amounts of the reworking of the series in the third generation by bringing back outdated monsters.

Generations added many Frontieresque oddities to the game. Monster Hunter always had a veneer of realism in amongst the oversized swords and cartoonish KO'd monsters, but Generations broke that illusion with its insanely over the top Deviants.

End end-game of Generations is set up to be an immense, but finite, grind. 4U's endgame grind wasn't as obvious to the player so many people skipped it, but it was also vastly more tedious and a virtual unwinnable RNG lottery.

I'm of the opinion that each new Monster Hunter game has been better than the last, but it's undeniable that Generations and by extension Double Cross has been, and will continue to be, a mixed bag. I fucking love the games though.

>>173417992
>guns are cool
>shit tastes
???

>>173417653
>deviant quests are a nightmare grind

>no guild quests
>no relic gear


wait, is nightmare grind a good thing or a bad thing
make up your mind

>Implying Hame Hunter 4U had a lot of variety
I don't get why are you all shilling 4U

>>173418247
>I hate 4U because I deserve relics but don't want to save edit
>waaah I hate hame rajang all the time I wish I could play the game

>>173418295

Sure is a lot of projecting there, bub.

>>173418247
It's the same phenomenon as that 90s kids fad trying to act like they're grandpas with something good to reminisce about.
Come MH5 there will be shitposting about how good XX is.

>>173418295
>waaah super deviants are a pain
>waaah striker lance
>waaah remove styles and arts
Yeah, ok

>>173418347
lolno
XX is true trash
can't wait for you to falseflag just so you can look like you were right

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where the gammoth doujins at

>>173417653
>Deviant quests are a nightmare grind
>Relics were not
Fuck off.

>>173418449
t. shitposter who's not actually playing the games

>>173418218
The nightmare is when you get fucking sick of hunting one monster but you only get one ticket for a shitty quest that takes too long.

Guild quests and relic gear were fine because there was room variety and all kinds of neat equipment dropped. I know someone is going to say that it was just double rajang 140 rooms but it took months for it to get like that.

>>173418563
I wonder how many soulsfags from 4U constantly shitpost about MHX/XX purely because "anime" triggers them.

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>>173418347
>"I cant maintain infinite sharpness"
>"Why would they nerf Weakness Exploit?"(again)
>"Styles and Arts added much more depth before MH5 took them away"
>"MH5 has no endgame" or "MH5's endgame is RNG again like 4U"
>"Why would they force us to grind multiple shitmons for the best gear?"
The cycle is already laid out, its just waiting for the day it'll be set in motion

>>173418621
80% of the general, like right now

>>173418621
spoiler ; they love xx

>>173418584
>The nightmare is when you get fucking sick of hunting one monster but you only get one ticket for a shitty quest that takes too long.

Then why do you want Guild Quests back? That's literally the exact same shit.

>>173418728
Spotted the falseflagger
>>173418816
Because 4(YOU) IS BEST MONHUN GEYM

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>>173418485
Gammoth sucking someone off with her trunk

I didnt know I needed this.

>>173418816
Stockholm syndrome for the Rajang dick.

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>>173418816
Rolling for equipment with random attributes is fun while none of the deviant equipment has a great payoff.

>>173418816
Because you fucktards can't understand Relics aren't meant to be farmed just like charms.

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>>173418584
Jokes on you, it was Diablos+Rajang for me

god damnit. farming the fatalis weapons takes so long.

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>>173419114
>Rolling for equipment with random attributes is fun

Please go play an MMO or something and stay out of Monster Hunter. And take all of the "I play a support role!" fags with you.

>>173418032
>Monsters can not be staggered out of the air or killed while retreating

this is bullshit

I have issues with several things about XX too but several things on your list are just wrong dude

>>173419114
God damn I hate 4U nostalgia babbies

>hurr durr Gen made everything too anime
>I miss my tedious MMO mechanics

>>173419151
because good relics were so easy to find, right

I remember you fucking idiots nutting when the mining trick was discovered

>>173419114
I bet you like charm farming too, faggot.

>>173419584
Because crafted weapons didn't exist
Because the game crashed if you weren't using a perfect relic
Because you couldn't cheat them in

>>173419368
You're right about that one, I remember staggering limping monsters before
But you cannot knock flying monster out of the sky when retreating I'm pretty sure of that.

What else is wrong, I'd be happy to learn.

>>173419736
I've killed fleeing bird wyverns with an HBG before. It's totally possible, but not easy because they fly away very quickly so you only really get a few good shots in on them.

>>173419913
You're full of shit. Monsters can't be killed while they're fleeing, you can't trap them and they will only die after they've changed area, the HP caps at 1.

https://twitter.com/hiromuhand0622/status/846916645780045825
Defend this

>>173419913
Either I got memed on or you're lying, please provide a source.

>>173420038
>you can't trap them
Outright bald-faced fucking lie.

>>173420152
Happened more than once in the Thunderlord capture in the tundra, drop a trap, beat it up and it's walk right past it.

>>173418032
This is thorough and helpful. Do you have a similar list for 4U?
>>173418047
Would you mind laying out the good points about MHGen? How serious is the RNG issue in MH4U? What are charms?

It would seem the choice between MH4U and MHGen isn't as straightforward an issue as I figured.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/50h121/shooting_down_fleeing_monsters_mhxmhgen/
>inb4 reddit
just read it, monsters can't be afflicted with stagger or status or even killed while flying or digging, but when they're on the ground limping they're still vulnerable

If you afflict status it will be applied when it lands assuming ti takes less than ten seconds.

>>173420038
>Monsters can't be killed while they're fleeing
Err... what counts as fleeing?
I've killed multiple Rathians in Gen while they've been limped away while attempting TA's. Do you mean you can't kill them after they've lifted off?

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>Use the MMO ad hominem
>Endgame literally has MMO-tier bosses
Say it with me guys:
FIVE
OHKO
MOVES

>>173420302
>Do you have a similar list for 4U?
I could make one, but it's not as fresh in my memory so it wouldn't be as long
Most of it would be complaining about GQs and 1st/2nd gen monsters anyways.

>>173420308
see >>173420306

>>173419736
>But you cannot knock flying monster out of the sky when retreating I'm pretty sure of that.

oh I read you wrong then, I apologize, if they're flying while retreating then you're right

Reminder that you have no right to complain about Rajang Hunter when you use the Guild Style argument to deflect criticism

>>173420381
Are you talking about frontier?

>>173420381
>it's too hard for me therefore it's MMO bullshit

yeah go back to /v/ faggot

>>>/v/373216959

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A-all monster hunter games are good for their own reasons and we should all be friends!

>>173420725
1st gen is actually trash though.

>>173420381
>Souls has bosses with OHKO moves
Damn dark souls and it's MMO-tier bosses!
t. You

>>173420725
That doesn't help deciding which game to buy.
Also, >>173420750 speak truthfully.

>>173420620
But why don't you use Guild Style then?

>>173419368
you are ignoring the "while retreating" part. Monsters are invincible when they reach a certain point in their retreat. It was a lazy solution to stop dung-bomb headlocking from 4U even though it only worked on low tier shit like Rathian and Kut Ku

>>173418032
>Element got kicked in the shins
It's stronger than it was in 4U. Much stronger. Only CB's element phial was nerfed.
>Hypers are just stat inflation
They'd be really neato if their health was reduced by ~25%.

>>173420302
>Good points about MHGen?
For the first time ever in a mainline MH series, Affinity isn't a dead stat.
Internal Ammo for Bowguns both adds to the nuance of picking a strong bowgun (at least for LBG) that we haven't had since MHTri.
Menus can be cycled through much faster by mashing A.
The substitute for the farm, the Trader, while the least interesting of any farm in the series is also the best at producing materials we've ever had. Notice how nobody ever complains about Scatterfish any more.
The monster roster is generally quite strong. There are a few weak links that seem chronically unable to be booted from the roster like Gypceros, but overall the lineup is solid.
All four of the new Flagship monsters are memorable and unique. Despite Astalos sharing Zinogre's gimmick and Gammoth sharing Barroth's gimmick, they all continue to feel fresh and interesting. Glavenus vs Adept Nifl Mist is literally my favourite fight in the entire MH franchise.
The endgame, while grindy, has definitive goals to work toward.
The HA's and styles are fun to use and offer lots of variety to the weapons. Some weapons got the short end of the stick where one or two styles outclasses everything else by a longshot (Bow, LBG) others are very versatile (DB, SnS, LS).

>How serious is the RNG issue in MH4U?
Extremely, extremely bad. In over 800 hours of MH4U, wherein at least 600 hours were spent in endgame content and around half of that was relic grinding, I managed to get one relic worth using. One. It was a Longsword in a game where LS was trash, and it didn't even have purple sharpness. Charms are notorious for bad RNG in MH, but relics but that to shame. I'd go on, but I've reached the character limit.

>>173420302
>Would you mind laying out the good points about MHGen?

more monsters
streamlined crafting in a good way
styles add a lot of gameplay, being able to play the same weapon different ways is a huge boon, although it varies from weapon to weapon
hunting arts make you feel powerful and add an extra layer to combat
better quality of life
prowler mode

people will dislike some of these but if this is someone's first MH game, they are all a + imo

there is little reason to suggest someone start this series with an older title, especially when you weigh in the online community

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>>173420813
Any of the U games are good first time games, or you can emulate P3rd on PPSSPP if you want something easier.

Playing Generations can fuck you up real bad when going back to older games, and I assume that if you start with it you'll get way too used to the styles and arts system, and the fights that are balanced around them, and when playing the other games for the first time it'll really impair your enjoyment.

>>173420381
>Five OHKO moves
This is different to 4U, where lvl 140 monsters had five NON OHKO moves.

>>173420774
he's crying about the super hunts despite the super hunt rewards only being entirely cosmetic since none of the gear goes over 15/lvl5

50-4615-8368-5237

Starting out in XX.

>>173421013
read >>173420532

>>173421018
>They'd be really neato if their health was reduced by ~25%.
This, they're just over the line of a boring fight and I feel I have to go full meta to deal with them

>>173421034
>styles add a lot of gameplay, being able to play the same weapon different ways is a huge boon, although it varies from weapon to weapon
>hunting arts make you feel powerful and add an extra layer to combat
And you've just laid out the future non-arguments that will be used against MH5

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>>173421018
I only just realized that since MHGen, nobody has complained about how difficult it is to farm fish.

>>173421258
>And you've just laid out the future non-arguments that will be used against MH5
AND THE CYCLE CONTINUES

>>173421258
>And you've just laid out the future non-arguments that will be used against MH5

I 100% expect them to stay in future titles, albeit refined.

>>173421091
>and the fights that are balanced around them

This is my biggest issue. I wanted to start things off with guild but all of the new monsters have some stupid gimmick that is much easier to deal with using a style or HA. I wish it were just extra but they change so much while some weapons outright lose and don't get much at all.

After playing GE/Toukiden on a big screen and a real controller I needed to get my huntan fix since those games have huge fatal flaws for a hunting game but even though MH by far is the best the shit that Gen/X added was too much for me. It seems ill never scratch that itch. But I won't be ashamed to admit the the problems with adapting and what I feel is wrong with mhx/xx lies with me personally.

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>>173421347
Ah yes, the higher hopes become the sweeter it becomes when they get crushed

>>173421347
I 100% expect Underwater to return in fourth gen, albeit refined.

>>173421576
I 100% expect Seasons to return in third gen, albeit refined.

>>173421659
We didn't need a third post, shitstain. The point was made with the second post.

>>173421506
memes aside I'm more than happy to hear why people think Capcom would be incentivized to take them out for the 5th gen

Unlike underwater combat like >>173421576 predictably pointed out, styles/arts were well recepted, and also a lot different to implement in a way that doesn't affect nearly every map in the game.

>>173421018
>Internal Ammo for Bowguns both adds to the nuance of picking a strong bowgun (at least for LBG) that we haven't had since MHTri.
lol

>>173421018
YOU
WEREN'T
SUPPOSED
TO
FARM
RELICS

>>173421883
except you didn't find a good one without farming them

in which case it was a pretty shitty addition to the game, huh

>>173421758
If you've witnessed the thousand Hellblade/Mantis debates, you'll see why we want Readiness out

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>you can put Let's Nyansu as the Tavern's theme

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>6.71s away from S ranking every single Arena quest in Generations
FUCK
PROWLER
ARENA

>>173421975
you don't NEED any.

>>173421576
So you don't think jumping or the Z axis will make it to 5th gen either?

>>173422021
What "debates"? You mean the forced meme guy?

>>173422021
I play the game and I'm here too, don't use "we" as some kind of gatekeeping tactic, it's retarded as hell.

>>173422095
Readiness being mandatory to play the game proper, because the only weapons that exist in XX have 20pts of Purple.

>tfw Mantis is good
>tfw raw / slots / sharpness
I WISH I had a life.

>>173422021
>we

you mean (you)

Guys do my eyes deceive me or is Renkin actually not a bad style for Tempest Axe SA? Sword mode combos into axe mode automatically which is perfect.

>>173422063
then what was the point of them? flavor? lol

>>173422229
>because the only weapons that exist in XX have 20pts of Purple.
ECECE says otherwise.

>>173422287
>Renkin
I don't get the meme

>>173422419
it's not a meme, just autism

33-6768-5145-0112

Anyone wanna join for some G1-G4?

>>173422419

It's the barrel shaker style that's totally fucking worthless on every weapon except maybe not SA.

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>>173421034
>especially when you weigh in the online community
>mh players nowadays can't even do quest without getting help from other people
>mfw back in my day I solo'd all the games on PS2 and PSP

>>173422531
Are you doing volcano? I need uroktor.

>tfw no charms to make mantis set/weapons better than Cen/Jho mix

I actually hope I never get good charms, or even a tenderizer+5 000 charm. I'm having a blast with the weapon variety I'm getting with weapons with equal raw to mantis weps but need the S+2, or sometimes only 10 less raw but with a status/element to compensate.

>>173418295
>I hate 4U because I deserve relics but don't want to save edit
>dude just use external software to edit your saves

what the fuck?

How is Hyper Gravioli

>>173422643
4Ubabies are all about that save editing. That shit took off after the game brought in all of the soulsfags and redditors.

>>173422595
Some hypers are in Volcano yeah

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>>173421034
>XXbabbies are now dissuading people from playing older titles now
>The next thread will only have MHXX as the tag to hammer home their dictatorship on /mhg/

>>173422810
>XXbabbies
>a game that isn't even localized that came out not even a month ago

why are 4Utards so empty in the head

>>173422810
>hardest game in the series
>babies
kek

Haven't visited /mhg/ in a while, came to look for some competent people to hunt with. Is the thread just autistic shitflinging over whether 4u or gen is better now?

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>tfw wannabe grandpa

>>173422897
Its not just 4U, its XX nazis vs the Three Great U's

>>173422881
>hardest game in the series
>there is literally no benefits to fighting the hardest fights in the game except a crown next to your name and armor colors

>>173413620
I miss Aegil.net for stuff like this.

>>173422810

3Ubaby here, the rule in Monster Hunter has always been to play the most recent version with the most refined mechanics. 4U was trash with the RNG overload but I still played it. MHXX is way better than 4U and I'm glad a lot of the trash from 4U is gone. When MH5 comes out I'll be playing that instead.

The only ones who refuse to give up "older games" are Sonygger FUbabies that couldn't get over the move to 3DS.

>>173422557
Wouldn't it also be good on LBG?
I mean, its not like LBG cares about any arts except full house and readiness, nor does it lose anything, and it gets more support tools.

>>173422897
>gen
it's dead already m8, only XX

>>173422810
>he think 4Ubabbies don't do the same regarding older titles

Who do you think started the "grandpa" forced meme?

>>173420067
holy shit is that real or an AI bug?

Last night I was farming nargacuga in gen and he would ran away 4 times in 2 minutes. Fucking absurd. I'd show up to a zone and he'd run. I'd show up to the next zone and he'd run. I'd show up to the next zone, he'd do 3 attacks and i'd hit him a few times, then he runs. Terrible. What the fuck were they thinking?

The sooner we go back to a Fujioka MH game the better. Let this fucking nightmare end already

>>173422897
There's monsterposting as well

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>>173422810
>XXbabies
>Not even localized
This desperation

>>173423007
>its not like LBG cares about any arts
Barrel shaker gets three arts like Striker though, and one of the one-shake items you get is a sharpening stone that gives you the Hunter Arts drink effect. It's actually kind of beneficial to using arts.

>>173422897
Yeah.
Pretty sure most of the thread is just the words "4Ubabbie" and "Xbabbie"

This fighting is especially confusing cause I thought it was widely accepted that 4U is better and a great game but I guess opinion changed when I wasn't browsing regularly.

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>>173422993
>I don't like the reward so it doesn't exist

>>173421192
Forgot to mention, HR1.

Need to hit HR2 badly.

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stop fighting

post huntresses

4kiddies are honestly fucking retarded judging by this thread

>>173417257
You always could, retard.

>>173423172
>spoiler

The general keeps forgetting its past position on things.

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>>173423235

i'm a tribabby. I miss that game. I miss Loc Lac, and the sand storms. I miss using a torch to light up dark caves. I miss my desert palace.

>>173423105
AI Bug lol

>>173422993
>locking good weapons and armors behind the hardest fights in the game in Gen
>waah tedious grinding bullshit

>Hardest fights now give nothing but cosmetics and e-peen in XX
>waah why would you even include that if there's no worthwhile reward

4Ubabbies confirmed for the worst playerbase ever introduced to MH.

What is the best Kinsect in MHXX?

>>173423435
thank fuck

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>>173423363
>"the general" is one person

>>173423383
I miss tundra
I miss sticky situation

>>173423363
>Shifting demographics is now the entire general forgetting past stances

>>173423501
>Kemono newfags
lel

>>173423557
>that
>kemono
that's just insulting to kemono

>>173423483
>Showing MH to soulsfags were a mistake
ftfy

>>173423532
that was 3u. But yeah, i miss barioth

>>173423487
Speed 1 or Balance

There are others that have utility in certain situations.

>>173423638
>everything after Demon's Souls and the people who played them was a mistake
FTFY

>>173423483
Except I started with FU, and that had Copper Blango and G rank narga as the sources for best weapons, and they were both pretty dang challenging. Those were much harder fights than mantis. And don't you dare try to defend deviants, grinding those is a completely different type of shit than farming for rare drops. That's 10 of the exact same monster with different rules 10 times, each with varying degrees of annoying bullshit like onsite items only capture missions. Those aren't challenging, they are tedious, much like XX's endgame which surprise surprise, is more shitty deviants with even more tedious quest conditions.

>>173423668
So is it the

Speed Up (S)
Power Down
Movement Up
Pierce Up
―
W AFF UP L
O Tremor Res
W/O Double Up+

one?

Guess that is the continuation of the Speed Kinsect from Gen.

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I would marry a Valfalk!

>>173423668
Is Balance's Triple Up Extend now back to 4U length?
If it's still only +50% why would you use it?

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>>173423771
>Except I started with FU
>And don't you dare try to defend deviants, grinding those is a completely different type of shit than farming for rare drops.
>Those aren't challenging, they are tedious, much like XX's endgame which surprise surprise, is more shitty deviants with even more tedious quest conditions.
So pretty much you're a falseflagging shitter at the game, that's nice, now know how to actually fucking play

>>173418032
-Noticeably better monster textures tho
-Oh no, not set numbers!
-The font situation is like no different to 4G
-Small monsters should defend their turf instead of acting like a background sprite in Street Fighter
-It really is soulless though. Can't shake the feeling it was all made by a robot script or spreadsheet algorithm.
-Why the fuck is it called adept even, seriously
-Hypers are pretty fun, and just need fractionally less HP
-Cats necessitate the food system
-Fuck requests, seriously. And tickets. What the hell were they thinking with this word bubble hell?
-The quest progression is flaming garbage, sure.

I agree with most of your points. XX feels nicer than Gen, although sadly Gen is still contained within that game.

>>173423172

I mean, I think 4U is better too, but I'm playing both 4U and Gen and they're both fun.

>>173423789
Kinsect Skill Essence Skill
Speed Up (XL) White: Crit Up (L)
Power Down Double Up Duration +
Distance Up White: Mind's eye

Is the gen one, the one you mentioned is still good if you need the tremor resist.
As far as I know it still gets 30% affinity.

>>173423861
It got buffed to 10 raw and 15% affinity instead of 5 raw and 10% affinity.
It also shares these effects with the whole team.

>>173423991
Hmm I may have upgraded wrong then.

This kinsect shit is confusing.

Mind telling me the name of the final (good) speed Kinsect in MHXX?

The names are on Kiranico.

Am I the only one feeling like mounting is underwhelming mechanic?

It never comes into play when you need it and when you do it skips over when the boss charges up super ability to dodge you.

>>173424090
Not only is it underwhelming, it's also the reason all those fucking piece of shit ledges are scattered all over every map.

>>173423483
I'm in a similar position as >>173423771 but with 3U instead, you had Lucent and Abby as sources of the best weapons. They're also both much harder fights than Mantis, especially since Abby was an AOE-spamming MMO cancer.

>>173423939
>cart once and you fail missions
>3 monster quests and 1 is a deviant
>those extra monsters are Hyper most of the time
>not tedious

>>173423991
Oh so just keep leveling Grancathar?

>>173424090
Mounting should have been exclusively teamwork based instead of the merdeux mess we're stuck with

>>173424254
What's the matter?

A 15 Minute quest too long for you?

>>173423943
>noticeably better monster textures
they're the same as 4U on n3ds
>Small monsters should defend their turf instead of acting like a background sprite in Street Fighter
I disagree because it's really fucking annoying to deal with camera blocking herbivores that for some god forsaken reason don't run

I think it's called adept/bushido to make shitters think they're actually good at the game
Same with brave to a lesser extent.

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>>173424254
>I am unable to hit hyper's glowing parts
Thanks for proving my point, now go play the game and actually learn it

>>173424538
>He still believes that hyper-misted spots are anything more than faster HA charge

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>>173423235

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>when a weapon requires two tails

>>173424538
Is this another retard that thinks hyper glow parts increase damage done?

>>173424446
15 minutes with a 4 man group that knows what they are doing maybe. Might as well post Lao, at least it doesn't require you to trust the other 3 people you are with not to cart once in a 20 minute long fight.

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>things in Gen do like 0 damage when they hit you
>French people still fucking chaincarting

>>173424639
He seems to be.
Probably the same retard who complains about Apex too.

>>173424748
So what you are saying is you don't have friends or some regulars you can hunt with?

So your complaints are there because you have an inability to find competent people or friends to hunt with.

>>173424538
>implying hitting hyper parts does anything substantial at all
L M A O
M
A
O

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>>173424620
>>173424639
>Not getting the point

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For each point, tell me which game you think did it the best. Thanks friends.
>Story
>Music and Sound
>Effects
>Town and Hub Design
>Monster Design (fight and visual)
>Monster Roster
>Quest variety
>Character Design
>Maps
>Weapon Designs (Visual)
>Weapon Balance
>Armor Design (Visual)

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>>173424748

>tfw I did Lao with /mhg/ last night and a guy carted

>>173424781
Je suis monte!

if you get MHXX you'll learn that HR1-4 japs are worse somehow a lot of them can't even kill blangonga

What's the most effective way to get Miss Valfalk to let me borrow her Jades?

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Ace Hunters are lame, I want to hang out with Legend Rastas

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>>173424907

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I play XX for fun

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>>173423771
>Except I started with FU, and that had Copper Blango and G rank narga as the sources for best weapons, and they were both pretty dang challenging.

Guess what?

So do I.

And yet I'm enjoying the shit out of XX. I've done a few of the deviant gauntlet solo back in G, leaving the harder ones until I have G rank gear and I find them perfectly challenging. Looking forward to solo the G ranked ones and supers too.

On site cap quests is not an issue for me because there's this skill called Cap Guru, which you can get with just a helm back in Gen so you just have to take off Hayabusa for one quest, and in XX you can just gem it in mantis.

>>173424976
>carting to Lao

how exactly

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>>173425068
Me too, I like having fun!

>>173424948
4U for everything except quest variety. Quest variety award goes to X/XX

>>173424948
>Story
What story m8.

Did you miss the Souls thread.

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>>173425040
>Other arts are not good!
>Falling for the Readiness is the only Good art meme

>>173424948
I'm a tribaby who dabbled only 100 hours in MHFU so take my opinions with a grain of salt

>Story
idk who cares. I guess 4
>Music and Sound
I really liked Tri, especially how it played that music as you walked over the cliff in deserted island
>Effects
idk I dont pay much attention to them
>Town and Hub Design
Tri. I love Loc Lac
>Monster Design (fight and visual)
Tri/3u. I love sea monsters and there were not many annoying monsters besides gigginox
>Monster Roster
3U. Although I really loved Nerscylla
>Quest variety
They all seem pretty similar to me. Gen has too many gather quests
>Character Design
3U. Great armor sets
>Maps
Tri/3U. Great maps. Can't stand a lot of the MHFU maps brought back in Gen
>Weapon Designs (Visual)
Probably 4u/gen
>Weapon Balance
Not sure. Seems like each game has its issues with a balance.
>Armor Design (Visual)
Tri/3U

>>173425160
the most common case I've seen is after Dragon bombing it and they manage to jump at an angle that makes Lao step on them

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>>173425189
I have fun playing support

>>173424067
>>173424320


Fyi the balance kinsect only loses out in a few points of damage compared to speed

>>173424830
No, I'm saying that I don't like to waste effort on really long and tedious quests where I have to panic the whole time because I don't use Brave or Adept style and then not get anything worthwhile out of it. In 4U, I felt that same way about 140s like Seregios and Zinogre, but they had some cool relic skins so I could suck it up and deal with it. Super deviants have nothing for me and most of their weapons are trash for my main so I have no motivation.

>>173425136
I never said I wasn't enjoying XX, I'm just not fighting G deviants and leave when they're posted.

>>173424482
>they're the same as 4U on n3ds
They're not, and there was some article on this.

Does Bushido actually mean something self-congratulating too?

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>>173421034
>streamlined crafting in a good way

>>173417563
Of course. Why would you continue to play a game you don't like?

>>173425204
Yeah that might not have been the best thing to put in there.
My bad.

>>173425260
just want to add that i love Deserted Island more than any other map

>>173425068
Unbelievable. Next you'll be telling me that FU isn't objectively the best game in the series

>>173425318
not an argument

>>173425226
>Original goalpost location: Pokke village
>Current goalpost location: Val Habar
wew

>>173425309
Bushido is the code of the samurai and therefore cool so pretty much.

>>173424247
lucent abby and brachy

>>173425383
It isn't because I actually don't care and just hit monsters until they die since MHF

>>173425226
There's a difference between arts being good and needing to rely on arts, dipshit. If you can't clear hypers just because you can't get the minor extra charge from their shiny parts then there's a problem with you, not the game.

>>173425160
>does shit ton of damage with a nuanced movement of its toenail, entire body is a hitbox. 3/4 health gone instantly on all early armor.

I dunno dude xD like how did he pissibly cart to that?!

>>173425292
Alright sorry for lashing out on you.

I thought you were still talkinga bout G5 Deviants which really aren't that bad especially if you bring smokes yourself.

I have not tried the HR100 versions yet because the people I hunt with haven't gotten to 100 yet.

But I am sure its full of oneshots.

>>173425292
>No, I'm saying that I don't like to waste effort on really long and tedious quests where I have to panic the whole time because I don't use Brave or Adept style

>he doesn't try out new options because of some self-imposed sense of superiority and nostalgia for the old ways

Good job giving those "Grandpa" memester more ammo.

>>173425475
Still makes more sense than adept, a literal opposite description to what it is.

>>173425383
MHXX is the best in the series and styles/arts add variety to an otherwise growing stale series!

>>173425643

Not to mention "Bushido" is a pretty fucking common loan word in English. There wasn't any real reason to change it in the first place.

>>173424976
hey dude I found the guy >>173425565

>>173416131
Dont listen to the retard trolls. Mh4u is dead so unless you want to solo you need to get Gen.
If you dont mind playing with slant eyed gooks you should get XX.

>>173425658
It still has a myriad of issues holding it back from being the very best. It doesn't completely suck for a lower budget 1/2 gen spinoff though. Want some tickets?

>>173425398
I said it already but i'll say again.

Splitting everything down paths from a few weapons when you can't figure out what next until you experiment is extremely user unfriendly. I had to save scum like a motherfucker and ultimately resort to a wiki in LOW rank because all of the smaller branches were tucked in a certain upgrade that costs tons of mats and money.

>>173425643
Yeah but the point was the anme still makes shitters feel good about themselves.
>I play bushido so I am cool like samurai master
>I am not using it as a crutch at all, the game says I am a skilled warrior

>>173424948
Why is the hammer backwards?

>>173425767
>playing online

If you're not this kind of faggot who only plays for this, 4U is still the most fleshed out game. That said, actually it is still pretty easy to find rooms. Maybe just not here.

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>>173425460
>Not being able figure the simple relation of why hypers have glowing parts that boosts arts and their bloated HP

>>173424948
>Story
4U
>Music/Sounds
Eeeeeehhhhh. Probably 4U but its tough. XX has good music here and there, but its handling of the Deviant stuff was bad. Valfalk and Ridge Battle are personal favorites though.

>Effects
4U

>Town/Hub
Tri>4U = 3U

>Monster Design
XX

>Roster
XX

>Quest Variety
XX

>Character Design
Frontier/MHO

>Maps
3U. Verticality was bad, and 3U's Desert/Volcano were straight up better than 4th gen's. If it kept P3rd's flooded forest it would have been golden.

>Weapon Design
Tough. Probably 4U because relic skins at least.

>Weapon Balance
P3rd/3U. 4U killed everything that wasn't HBG/GS/IG/CB.

>Armor Design
XX because I love Moofah and there's quite a bit of variety. Also, transmog.

>>173425860
That has always ruined this picture. Someone fix it in paint.

Why are MHO females so fuckable?

>>173425862
>4Ubabs jerk off to relic hunting and GQ's
>"4U is still the most fleshed out game without online"

lol

>>173425920
Tri/3U had the absolute comfiest map base camps. Deserted Island and Flooded forest base camps were so aesthetic

>>173426017
Because they don't even wear hunting equipment or armor most of the time. It's a barbie dressup wet t-shirt contest over there.

>>173425614
Adept is a huge DPS loss and I can't see Brave style SA being that great against most of the roster. Like, at all.

>>173426024
The game is fine without your perfect relic, numb nuts.

>>173426024
X and XX lacked the expedition MH4U had. Sometimes I just want to hunt random shit.

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>>173425160
>chilling on Lao's back, carving and planting bombs like a good muslim
>Lao felt a slight cold breeze and shivers a bit
>nothing impacted the condition of his back whatsoever
>OHKO'd out of nowhere by an invisible force

>>173426064
True enough.
I loved that both had swimming shortcuts too.

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>>173424948
>Music
MH Uno, Dos and Tri
>Effects
Tri generally really have pretty-looking effects.
But 4U really nailed it with the CB effects.
>Town and Hub Design
MH Uno, Dos and Tri
>Monster Design (fight and visual)
2ndGen is where the designs and fights start to get good as they moved away from wyvern clones, and finally reach their peak with 4U.
>Weapon Designs (Visual)
Gen for the older monsters, which makes it much painful as they were wasted on a bad game
>Armor Design (Visual)
Capening Hunter 4U.
3U is also no slouch either.

>>173426167
Expeditions are so comfy.

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>>173425931

>>173425903
>He actually thinks spamming his anime moves does more damage than just focusing normal attacks on actual weakspots instead of uselessly hitting shit glowing parts
(LOL)

>>173426247
I liked free hunt better but that's because i'm a shitter who just likes to take my time

>>173424948
>Story
lol
>Music and Sound
Dos, the soundtrack is great and never out-of-place for the world it takes place in. The only really garbage themes were the PvP arena and the main/quest clear theme
>Effects
4U when the screen wasn't an earthquake
>Monster Design
Tri and 4 vanilla tied. I'm leaning more on Tri because of how much attention to ecological detail exists instead of "How does this monster defend itself"
>Roster
Tri
>Quest Variety
FU
>character design
4U
>Maps
Frontier if we can ignore Highlands, Gorge, and Great Forest which just exist to waste your time getting to the monster rather than fighting them
>Weapon, armor design
MH1 because it wasn't just monster cosplay
>Weapon Balance
3U, the only game where every weapon type stands on equal ground except in dogshit underwater combat

MOON BREAKIN'

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>>173426335
>Projecting that I'm as bad as you who is not able to dish out proper damage and use Arts when they're available

>>173426247

>normal hunts with their 50 minute timers are too stressful
>I know, I'll relax with a hunt that gives every monster 15 minute fag-off timers instead!
What's even the point of an infinite hunt when you make the monsters run away after a pre-set time?

>>173426497
BRIMSTONE SLASHIN'

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>>173426070
This is funny because mainline now followed the rest of the MMOs with transmog

>>173426678
You kill the monster before it runs away? Sometimes in 4U I can't be bothered to hunt specific stuff or grind relics so I just hunt whatever that's in the expedition.

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>>173426938
Please don't associate a spin-off with the rest of us

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>>173427087

>>173426289
Great work!

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>>173427119

>>173426423
Free hunt still technically refers to hunting any monster that intrudes on your quest.

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>>173427119
That looks comfy as fuck.

>>173427201
>>173427087
BTFO

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Interrupting all the shitposting to deliver a request by an anon a few days ago of
>Abandoned Charbot in Genhub brokenly repeating "you can post"

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>>173425931
FIVE HOURS in photoshop

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>>173427313

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>>173427315
Nice work, Drawfriend!
Someone please fix the bot

>>173427348
Sheit, I was almost done with doing it and then you post this.

>>173427313
>>173427404
>>173427241
>waifuing the monster with the fucking shittiest and most cancerous moveset ever

kys desu famalan

>>173426678
How the shit can't you kill an expedition mon in time? I think it's great there's an actual penalty for dragging out a hunt. That's just good for helping shitters get some practice.

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>>173427315
;_;

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>>173427348
a little less crooked I think

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>>173427494

>>173427404
(male)

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>>173426450
>the only game where every weapon type stands on equal ground

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>>173427494
And who's -your- waifu, anon?
I actually never said anything about waifuing Mizu either. I just think its cute and would make for an adorable pet/companion or bath-buddy.

>>173426921
LION'S MAWIN'

>>173427665
I wouldn't count on his nippon skills being stellar enough to read this: https://www65.atwiki.jp/mh3gta/

Does XX have underwater fights?

That's what I liked about 3U.

>>173427742
bullfang is my cute husbando

>>173427570
Pro work.

>>173426938
anyone else dislike transmog? I like being able to look at people and determine their playstyle. I like the memes and generalizations that come from certain armor sets. I like when people sacrifice optimal skills for fashion and make up for it with skill. I like when you come up with a fashion set that actually has decent skills.

Although transmog does make it where you can look nice and be useful. It just seems kind of pointless.

>>173408145
You can guard, yeah. Nothing stops it from hitting you from behind. That's why i said "unguardable".

All the new moves Lagi got aren't like that. If you block it you block it.

>>173427989
what the fuck is this

>>173427962
>It's not what I like and what I'm used to so it's pointless
Well what do you know, just like your post