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>Didn't have "Point Down" equipped but wanted to disrespect regardless:
>>170505819

>Discord-sponsored tournament on March 25:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdE5nW644n-uDkR2sLrJD--n4Nsynw2f9GP2BJOrNUBpgiBiw/viewform

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Announcement trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79
Gameplay footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU
Redacted "Capital Knight" armor set screenshots: http://imgur.com/wIM6rIJ
Vaati's notes, trimmed (MAJOR SPOILERS, read with a grain of salt): http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN
Leaked first boss fight (SPOILERS): https://sendvid.com/ppo6urmb
Famitsu screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/A6diD

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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In just three weeks the first /dsg/ thread tourney is starting. On March 25th, 2pm PST a PC tournament will be held prior the release of The Ringed City DLC.
Participants will be matched up with others who sign-up and fight for the claim to be /dsg/'s champion. The winner and runner-ups will receive prizes including Steam games and being better than everyone else who fought.

Sign-up sheet is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdE5nW644n-uDkR2sLrJD--n4Nsynw2f9GP2BJOrNUBpgiBiw/viewform?usp=sf_link

For the sake of organization either your Steam ID or a Discord ID will be needed to sign-up. If using only one, Steam IDs will be organized via that messages there and Discord users can join the accompanying server in the link above to ensure we don't have last minute drop-outs with no explanation.

RULES:
-Maximum Soul Level of 125 allowed. Someone with CE open will be monitoring all players to make sure this rule and others aren't broken.
-The starting location will be High Wall, followed by Farron Keep bridge and ending at the Darkmoon Tomb.
-Fights are best of 3
-Each fight is 2 minutes long, the one with the most % health left at the end will win if both are alive.
-Gargoyle Flame Spear, Washing Pole, Throwing Knives, Anri's Straight Sword, Ethereal Oak Shield, Ancient Greatshield, and Fire Surge are banned.
-Only two Ashen Estus sips per fight, any more and your win will not count, initiating a rematch. Do this twice and you are disqualified
-All Regen items and spells are banned to disencentize passive shittery. This includes Sun Princess Ring, Blessed Weapon, Spells like Bountiful Sunlight, the weapons/shields mentioned above with innate regen and anything infused with Blessed.
-Normal FC rules still apply such as no healing items. Fight rotation will be determined once brackets are set.


Discord link: https://discord.gg/5PBsgsV
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>>170557420
That's already in the OP.
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hows my twink build? I think I need to go to 18 end.
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>>170557420
WHY DID YOU KICK ME OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEE I DIDN'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING
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>>170557662

join again
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>>170557708
INVITE IS INVALID OR EXPIRED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>170557786
https://discord.gg/eNvRAh7
This one shouldn't expire.
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>>170557420
Is simple allowed?
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>>170557786
https://discord.gg/eNvRAh7
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>>170557786
link posted earlier is definitely working vince
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>>170557953
I've been summoned
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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.
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>>170558328
There you are, I was worried you vanished
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Who was 4Kingsanon and why were they hated so much?
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>>170558078
play hftf with me faggot
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What's the best Souls web comic?
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can someone drop me a wolf ring? its the last ring i need for all rings achievement

i can give you pretty much whatever in return in terms of weapons/souls etc

on PC
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>>170558734
+0? I can drop a copy for you, if you help me scum something (I'll drop you the ring and a weapon I want duplicated, load a backed up save and then pick the weapon back up from you afterward).
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>>170558636
No
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>>170556295
Done,

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1zeLyDXXmVO
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>>170558958

sure, ive done that before

go to wolf of farron bonfire

password wolf
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>>170558970
oversexualized game
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>>170558503
Sometimes a new thread slips through the cracks, despite one's best attempts at keeping a watchful eye.
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>>170559165
Unnecessary trip
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>>170559126
Booting up now. Do you also want the greatshield as well? I can give it to you too.

I'll be dropping one of the Homoprinces swords. When I come back to pick it up, feel free to drop me a copy of Havel's +2 and FaP +2 if you want.
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>>170559165
Souls has probably the coolest female designs in gaming.
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>>170559318

i dont really care about the shield

i can give you the rings,ill do a save backup as well
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>>170559568
All right. Red sign is down at the bonfire.
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Am I correct in assuming that
>in ds1 sorceries are the best magic class
>ds2 had miracles but now its hexes
>and for ds3 it's pyormancies that are king
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>>170559040
You are a fucking god.
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>>170559040
Convince me that you're not really Vaati shitposting
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>>170560002
Basically.
DaS1 sorceries have Dark Bead, the single most overpowered offensive spell in the entire series.

DaS2 miracles are a total pve curb stomp from safe distance but got nerfed into the ground. Hexes were the next best thing though never quite as good

DaS3 pyro isn't super great but it pairs well with meta weapons and has the benefit of simply being the least bad magic in a game where all magic is fucking bad.
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Remember to pay your respects to papa Hodrick
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>>170560002
Pretty much agree. Pure caster has become increasingly harder. And now in 3 the tendency is to have mixed builds; dex/int str/faith or minimal requirements and faith/int to chaos or dark. Crystal sorcery and dark was stupid strong in the first game as faith in 2 before the nerf.
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>>170560378
Why the fuck do friendly NPC's not scale with NG+? I just fought hodrick with sirris and she literally does 30-60 damage and dies in 3 hits. Yet hodrick has 4000 hp and can chug estus.
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Thanks for the rings and the muling service. Hope I was able to help with the achievement.
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>>170559040

What's this? 0w0 *swishes tail*
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>>170560550
>Why the fuck do friendly NPC's not scale with NG+?
They forgot.
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>>170559568
Not him, but can you help me scum the rings? If it's not too much trouble.
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>respecced for darkmoon funblade
>450-730 ar instantly
MUH DICK
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Archtrees= Trees
Giants= Seeds
Pilgrim Butterflies= Saplings
Dragons= Fruit
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>>170561573

no.

souls are dragon eggs that can be provoked to hatch inside of you
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>>170557420

I know regen is banned, but what about Heal, Med. Heal, etc?
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There are 3 versions of Ornstein across time and space and still no plumed version of his set
>Inb4 it's his hair
Ciaran's mask has hair too, We can just scalp the fucking guy.
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>>170561746

they ban all healing abilities because they are pissy tryhard faggots who don't like that there are builds designed around trading damage output for extra health
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>>170557247
Who are the 4 bosses in ds2 with lord souls again?

Rotten
Last sinner
Old iron king
?

I forgot who the 4th one is
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Anyone want to dupe soul of a great champion on PS4? I want to gain a shit ton of levels on this char so I don't get one shotted by basic enemies going into the DLC on NG+++++
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>>170561890
Duke's Dear Freja
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>>170561890

Duke's Dear Frijoles
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Ahh, it singeth, to the bone, it hurts... Please, help me. Be done with me... No, gods, no, I cannot bear it... It burns, burns, help me...
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>>170560349
Ds1 also had the best affinity. I forget what its called now but it had ridiculous tracking on it and you couldnt just roll once easily to avoid it
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>>170557420
>better ban more than two ashen estus, casters are op xD
>regen items too, they encourage passive play
>estoc/black knight shield or greatshield turtling? no problem there :^) Also, good offensive weapons like wp or gfs are banned too :^)
off yourselves
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>>170561818

was ornstein human? is that why he went full draggo?
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>>170562109
It was called Pursuers.
It actually wasn't all that special, rolling forward through it would defeat the spell every time as long as your timing was correct. Pursuers was only really a pain because DaS1's latency was the worst of the 3 and its netcode wasn't set up to manage homing projectiles, which meant there was no such thing as 'perfect timing' to roll through Lagsuers
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>>170562159
>is that why he went full draggo?
he didn't
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>>170557247
So are Alsanna and Nashandra etc the reincarnation of the 4 kings or Manus?
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>>170561818
The description for Porcelain Mask implies that the hair is attached to the mask, and isn't Ciaran's hair though.
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>>170562250

yes he did
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>>170560349
>DaS3 pyro isn't super great
Best pyromancy in series.
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>>170562292
That was 2.
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>>170562256
Manus. It's pretty explicit. Which technically makes them extremely human.
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>>170557420
Will someone stream this?
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>>170562237
Yeah but you could roll right into dark bead very easily

>>170561942
>>170562071
Yeah but the soul icon looks normal compared to the other 3
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>>170557420
>>170562127
As a semi-serious follow-up, your rules will not stop passive play at all. By not addressing greatshields, bloodring and implementing a pretty short timer, you make it perfectly viable to just run the clock. Smack somebody twice, throw on bloodring, 2h a greatshield and run. Banning good pressure weapons (eg WP, the only thing that can run people down somewhat in this game) makes this even worse.
I almost hope someone memes on your dumb rules
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>>170562287
Ornstein did not turn into a fucking dragon you retard

there is LITERALLY no evidence to say he did
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>>170562410
It drops the Old Paledrake Soul on NG+
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>>170562410
>Yeah but you could roll right into dark bead very easily
You'd die
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Best soul farming location in 3? Got my shield of want, symbol of avarice, and silver serpent ring +2 ready.
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>>170562363
How come there's 4 of them
There's also 4 kings

Someone call Vatti
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>>170560341
Well, I don't own a patreon that earns enough to get me by.

And what little income I get come from art instead of lore videos.
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>>170562458

>travels to archdragon peak
>his armor set is abandoned in archdragon peak

???????????????
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>>170557247
Whats the faith or int cap in ds2? Want to finish up my rtl run
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>>170562674
>Siegward's armor set is abandoned in the Profaned Capital
>Holy shit Siegward turned into a Gargoyle
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>>170562674
>guy leaves his armor somewhere
>this means he is a dragon
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>>170562750
He literally necks himself after you kill Yhorm, dickhead.
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>>170562532
3 winged knights in archives
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>>170562589
That's pretty cute, fuhrer vaati
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>>170562856
No, the armor set is abandoned on the floor with no body nearby.
He turned into a gargoyle, I'm telling you. There's no other possible explanation.
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>we'll never know what Witch Beatrice was like
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>>170563029
I'd imagine she was a qt.
what with the obsession turning to love n devotion and all that.
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>>170562342
2 was the worst.
Shittiest combustion.
No fire surge.
No black flame.
Inferior "homing" pyro.
Won't even mention trash like immolation that kills you faster than your target even if you're on low hp.
The only saving grace of pyros in 2 was forbidden sun and it was absolutely demolished by nerfs on top of being a late-game pyro.
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what the fuck happened to him bros?
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those pisacas in the dukes archives are girls that seath kidnapped right?
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What's everyone's favorite credit song?

Epilogue is the best in my opinion. It really makes me feel like "This is the final Dark Souls game"
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>>170563238
Eh, I don't know. I 've seen some pretty viable pyromancy builds using forbidden sun, firewhip and dancing flames
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>>170563372
remove trip
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>>170563332
Divorce
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>>170562532
Golden fat knights at the top of Grand Archives. For faster farm speed, cast Rapport.

>>170562681
Miracles: 40 for basic soft cap, 50 for the "hard cap"
Sorceries: same as above, but Staff of Wisdom has 50 Int requirement so most dedicated casters go to 50 (you get more soulmass orbs based on Int)
Pyromancies: 60 total between Faith and Int
Hexes: 30 each of Faith and Int, every additional 10 Int increases number of Affinity orbs, from 2 at 30 to 5 at 60
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>>170563372
>those pisacas in the dukes archives are girls that seath kidnapped right?

no they were /vg/ tripfags
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>>170563238
Not to mention that any caster would already have pretty high fire defense due to how it scaled, and could further increase it with Flash Sweat (which literally anybody could use due to Pyromancies not having stat requirements) and Mask of Pharros.
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>>170563689
Mask of Pharros was absolutely retarded. Who decided to add this shit to the game had no idea about balance because it was piss easy to stack at least 500 fire defence with it with virtually no minmaxing involved.
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Is there anyway to change Arni's gender? I want her female for my female Knight playthrough.
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>>170563958
I would imagine changing your gender through CE might work if you start as a male.
Although you'd be a girl(boy)
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have someone drop you the reversal ring early into your male playthrough
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Anyone wanna play DS1
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>>170562538
It's because those 4 queens were aspects of Manus, his aspect and being.

And each and every one of the 4 girls that split off from Manus when he was vanquished were driven by that singular aspect that birthed them.

Which drove them to seek a king, to fill their respective desire. Be it greed for Nashandra, corruption or in the case of Alsanna the silent Oracle, her innate sense of weakness and fear drove her to seek a powerful protector. Ending up at the side of the Ivory king, known for his courage valour and strength.

But you gotta remember that this was a period of time where numerous kingdoms existed, as well as an even larger amount of heroes and figures of power.
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>>170564150
>>170563958
What if you change your gender at Rosaria?
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>>170564383
I don't think you can
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>>170564150
>girl(boy)
excuse me
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>>170562856
>>170562984

No, idiots, if you actually stay after talking to him and he goes to sleep and leave the room he dies on the spot. No abandoning, no transforming, just straight dies and the souls from his death transfer to you immediately.
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>>170564249
What do you feel like doing?
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>>170564498
new playthrough
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>>170564249
platform?
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>>170564383
Rosaria can't change your gender.
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>>170564615
PC
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Is this that Demon Scar sword you make from the Demon Prince soul ?
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>>170565094
Yes
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>>170562589
prove you're real vaati you fucking bogan

timestamp and pic of vaati's handsome face n jaw
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Shame no-one uses this weapon
Its actually pretty good, and the stamina usage is fantastic.
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>>170565094

>the sword is MADE of fire

Holy shit, I thought it was just a sword that was on fire, not literally fire.
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>>170558669
Lordran and Beyond site has a lot of good shit. I also love Setz's comics.
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>>170565094
>>170565501
>mfw it's just a fire-infused scimitar
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WHAT IN THE FUCK? I was in a fight club when suddenly this shit.
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>>170565602
post the painting guardian one
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>>170565727
somebody probably hacked in DLC items
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>>170565094
>pure fire damage
>B/B scaling in int/fai, reaches 450 AR
>200+ spellbuff
>most ridiculous weapon in the entire game
Tell me it won't be so
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>>170565301
>prove you're real vaati
But I said I WASN'T Vaati.
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those winged assholes are fucking insane ng++, fuck this bullshit
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>>170566213
Cast Rapport.
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>>170566213
>only on NG++
casul
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big hat logan isn't in the giant cell in the dukes archives.
What's wrong? I unlocked the cell and there's nobody there so I took the soul and shit
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>going to wear desert pyromancer chest and slave knight leggings as a max size female

can't wait
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>>170565756
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how do you handle the loss of 500k souls? I think I'm going to kill myself
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Anyone want to come fight Aldrich?
I got a fresh batch of embers to try again.
pw: dsg
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>>170563332
Seeing that pig makes me so sad.
Anyway, the short answer is burnout. He felt a bit disillusioned by DS3 although he liked the DLC a lot. As far as his other Souls stuff goes, I don't know why he just straight up dropped the Bloodborne lore run like he did because he was enjoying the game a lot despite the chalice fuckery. Demon's Souls is a fucking mystery. He got the game working decent but I guess he hauled off his PS3 somewhere as he was midway through a playthrough. I hope that the new DLC gets him to play DeS and Bloodborne again.

Currently he's probably just trying to make the best of what is going on by playing games that interest him until Fromsoft comes up with a new I.P.

>>170563454
Yes, the divorce might be one of the things that is very taxing on him, especially with the custody battle over his daughter. I hope he wins it because he really fucking loves that kid.

>>170563376
One who Craves Souls.
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>>170566186
oh sorry anon

Had me confused I didn't think vaati was a good artist
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>unarmed fist parry with hornet ring is just a boob squeeze
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>>170566608
You go farm the golden fat knights and get those souls back in a few runs.

>>170566628
Depends, are you doing a low SL attempt?
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>>170561890
The Lord Soul bosses in Dark Souls 2 are so fucking forgettable hory shiet.

DS1, DeS and DS3 make a really good job of giving the 4 big bosses an awesome presentation right from the start so they feel imposing instead of a yawn-inducing powerlevel check. Bloodborne went about guiding the player a different way so they couldn't really reveal the existence of the Great Ones at the start.
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>>170566608
By realizing that's nothing compared to the ungodly amount of souls I've spent on consumables I'll never use while farming for Proofs of Concord
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>>170567145
>low SL
Yeah, low enough that I rarely see signs
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>infuse with every different gem

>don't get the achievement

epic, simply epic
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>>170567379
Is it true or just a baseless rumor that Lost Sinner was planned early on development to be an imprisoned Gwyn? If done properly that could have been at the very least more interesting than "Olld Iron King fused with Gwyn and became a random Zelda boss for some reason"
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>>170567379
>DS1, DeS and DS3 make a really good job of giving the 4 big bosses an awesome presentation right from the start so they feel imposing
But those bosses are the worst ones in both 1 and 3 as well. There's absolutely nothing solid about their execution or "imposing" about their presentation beyond the fact that they were featured in a CGI intro cutscene that way overbuilt their utterly disappointing fights.

To 2's credit, it had the good sense to leave its great ones as an irrelevant early-game powerlevel check instead of pretending they actually mattered.
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>>170567521
Define "low enough." You're not going in with a Bandit's Knife and Master's Attire and Loincloth at SL20 and getting two-shotted by the Silver Knights on the way half the time, are you?
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>>170567690
Totally made up. That sounds like one of those baseless reddit rumours that gets spouted because drones like you parrot everything they read there.
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>>170567807
At SL20 you can do way better items than that
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>>170567664
Same. Did you use only one weapon?
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>>170567872
>parroting everything
>when I'm specifically trying to verify wether or not there could be any inch of truth whatsoever to the information.
Alright.
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>>170567690
>Lost Sinner was planned early on development to be an imprisoned Gwyn?

That makes absolutely no sense.
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>>170568060

yes
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>>170567690

the entire game got rewritten, dark souls 2 was a mess

I always imagined the lost sinner as a literal prisoner that was hidden away in a cell at the top of a tall tower (hence sinner's rise), with the meat of the boss "battle" being some sort of hyper-dangerous warden creature that stalked the hallways within the boss room.

was severely disappointed
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>>170568115
That might be it then. You gonna have to try using different weapons for each infusion. Also try Shriving Stone.
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>>170567737
I would disagree, and they were gimmick fights in DeS as well. Aldrich and Anime Watchers were good fights, as were Homoprinces, 4 Kings, Garl, Old Monk and Nito.

The thing is that it absolutely did matter for the atmosphere of the setting. When you go up against Gravelord Nito you're like OHSHIT IT'S THE RAVELORD FROM THE INTRO while against The Rotten you're like who the fuck is this?
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>>170565962
Not him but once it happened to me while just casually running through the game unembered. And I've bought the game with the season pass.
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>>170565094
>WA is a scimitar spin, but with firestorm effect
i will be completely fine with it as i never used the spin version
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>>170567737

>being an anti-lore fag
>being an anti-atmosphere fag

>in a game series that is 50% fueled by atmosphere and lore

the archdemons in demon's souls were LITERALLY nothing but giant gimmicks solely meant to culminate the artistic narrative of the area, and they are still some of my favourite bosses on that alone.

dark souls 2 forgot that it was a good RPG with interesting combat mechanics, and became interesting combat mechanics with nothing worthwhile to prop it up.
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>>170568482
>implying it isn't just going to be Storm Curved Sword WA with fire instead of wind
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Is it worth the points for Blessed Weapon to put it on my refined LKGS?
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>>170568690
it's the best WA in class so it's not a bad thing too
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>mfw I just realised that I fucked creightons questline
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>>170568613
It had the previous games to prop it up
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>>170565094

don't tell me that the pilgrims are just turning into those fly monsters

because that would be really disappointing.
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>>170557247
>Gets spanked when using corvian scythe
>pulls out washing pole
>spams running r1
>gets spanked again and dies
every time
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>>170568950

yeah and left a bad taste that stunted the quality of the series
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>>170569038
Who are you quoting?
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>>170568613
>>170568950

Dark Souls 2's best parts are the DLCs both in lore and gameplay.

>>170568158
But Sinner IS a prisoner, at the start of the battle he is tearing off his chains.
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>>170569189
Just telling use about his DaS3 experience?
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>>170569189
His alter ego
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>>170568253
The spooky ride to Nito begins a lot earlier than just when you're already by the boss room. Just going down to the Catacombs and seeing the whole lightning die down to this eerie darkness was already a good start. And then doubly so when you reach Pinwheel and realize his boss room is a gigantic coffin.

If Nito had been a better fight that whole thing would be godly
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>>170569294

>But Sinner IS a prisoner, at the start of the battle he is tearing off his chains.

I mean chained up and a lame duck like was implied in the teaser. you'd reach him in whatever way worked and then basically murder him for his soul.

the complete lack of interesting, creative, "gimmick" bosses was another flaw of DaS2; people can say what they want, that they aren't challenging, but the alternative of "only exhilerating combat bosses" gets you 20 generic armored soldiers with swords, demon of song, and a chariot.
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Is exile greatsword any good? I saw some people in an impromptu fightclub using it so I'm looking into it.
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>>170569741

it's the best sword in the game
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>>170569741
It's the highest-AR curved GS by a mile and a quality weapon that ends up with comparable AR to the strongest ultras. Its major downside is that it's short and very heavy compared to other CGS.
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>>170569721
You can pretend that Covetous Demon was an Archdemon, I guess.
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>>170570056
>Covetous Demon

primordial demon's had more gameplay than that piece of garbage.
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>>170569905
>>170569976
I'll take it's worth upgrading to +10?
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>>170569038
Atleast provide some context if you're going to greentext.
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TFW souls are just shards of humanity that are so small the dark isn't visible.
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>>170563332
A lot of things. None of them good.
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>>170568742
Anyone? I can move points around to get 10 Atn and 15 Fai but is it worth it?
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>>170557420

>no Carthus Bloodring ban

Oh boy.
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I started DaS1 recently, Artorias is the only boss I struggled with so far, it felt so good to beat him.
Also what are these white circlets appearing sometimes ?
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>people think the giant is summoning a boss
>it's actually summoning a divine primordial serpent that descends from the sky
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>>170570832
It's a weird mechanic that they experimented with in DS1 and never touched again. Basically, if people online cast a lot of miracles in a location, then one of those circlets appears, and provides a buff to miracles in a limited radius.
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>>170570832
They are coronas that boost miracle power in the vicinity. I guess they appear from people using Miracles?
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>>170570953
>mfw this is the most articulate giant we've ever seen in a Souls game

That means it's gotta be Allfather Lloyd.
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>>170570832
>>170571038
>>170571073
If you're part of the Princess Guard or Way of White, casting miracles leaves behind those rings. Casting a miracle on top of those rings boosts how powerful your miracles are, though I think you need to be part of one of those two covenants for them to appear and to reap the benefits
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>>170571193

allfather lloyd is a serpent
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FC is over at HW.
ty for coming.
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>knight class in DeS fat-rolls by default

So it's a suicide mission.
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>>170571236
Who's the Law and Chaos heros in Dark Souls?
Solaire and Lautrec? What about the other games?
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>>170566608
feel like shit and continue playing only to realize later those souls were nothing once you've mastered the game through sheer will of autism
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DS3, does Estus level effect PVP matchmaking at all? +4 weapon, and +4 estus, and lvl30. Just downed giant worm for bone shard but still farming for Watchdogs covenant.
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>>170572169

Nah. Just weapon level and player level.
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Is it just me or was BB's lifespan shorter than any of the other souls games?
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>>170572225
Thank you sir
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>>170572308
If by 'lifespan' you mean online stuff, then yes, since the game is a pve wetdream but pvp is largely irrelevant and online is payed subscription based to further ruin it.
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It's been a while but could someone remind me of what you're supposed to do in Character Creator to get the fattest ass out of the dancer's leggings?
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>>170557420
Fuck you, Elite Blessed weapon Anri's Straight Sword Ft. Ethereal Oak and princess ring luckyknight for life.
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>>170572308

To be fair, it's a console exclusive game and it does not have a sequel or anything like that.
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>>170563181
wrong witch, that's zullie
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>>170572308
I bet there's plenty of people playing who just don't want to stay subbed to ps+
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>>170572485
>>170572652
Kind of sad it only got one dlc though when ds2 got 3.
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>>170572772

The DLC was a lot bigger, though.

Besides, I don't think there was anything they could have expanded upon in a second DLC.
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>>170572876
>Besides, I don't think there was anything they could have expanded upon in a second DLC.
Yeah I was just thinking that. Sure is a shame though.
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>>170572994
>>170572876
I think a second DLC could have expanded on the Pthumerians or the vilebloods.
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>>170572994

It's a good thing because I don't own a PS4 anymore.
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>they're not lightly hopping
lmaoing at ur lifes rn
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>>170562674

He left it there
He was killed by NK

There's 2 explanations for ya
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>>170571546
You can just take some armor off and you can fastroll.

>>170572772
>>170572876
>>170573364

Bloodborne's Old Hunters was basically 2 DLCs in one and was a full expansion rather than a sequel.
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>>170573387
>tfw agadyne's set never returned
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>>170573781

>tfw hardly anything about Nito in DS3
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anyone else get booted from online and cant log back in? PC
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>>170571558

Siegmeyer is neutral
Lautrec is law
Solaire is chaos
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>>170574084

can confirm not working, probably maintenance
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I've never done anything other than pure melee in this entire series, barring my current run of Demon's Souls, but that just uses the "mandatory" spells Cursed Weapon and Second Chance.

I'm thinking of doing either DaS1 or 2 (PS3 version). I don't have the DLC for 2.

What's a fun caster build for both games? I'm thinking of either a low level pyro invader for DaS1 or maybe some weird heavy-weight INT/FTH build.

For DaS2, I have no idea what to do. I know faith isn't good, but it seems kind of fun. Pyromancy looks cool, and so does using Hexes.

What're fun caster builds that I hopefully won't tire of quickly?
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>tfw second xbox 360 controller shit the bed, both times bumpers would stop responding

what should I get? I'm tempted to just get a fucking ps4 controller.
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>>170574730


switch pro controller
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>>170573842
Considering how dumb the Nito shit in DS2 was, I'm glad.
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>>170574771
you're just memeing right? can you actually use a switch controller?
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>>170574730
How long did your 360 controllers last? They seem pretty damn durable based on how long mine has lasted without any issues.
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>>170573781
Feels bad
2 had such great fashion, I find it so hard to stay with an certain outfit
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>>170574845

it works on pc
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>tfw advancing through the game on a limited upgrade-level challange and realizing that everything from High Wall to AW are balanced assuming an unupgraded weapon, and everything from AW to Dancer are balanced for +3
I wonder how badly Bamco meddled for the difficulty to be this fucked.
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>>170574883
first one lasted about a year, the second for three.

>>170574905
might get one then, I'm gonna need a bluetooth adapter though huh.
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>>170573842

except for aldrich giving a soft explanation for how nito got his corpse powers?
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Manus wombo combo is fucking bullshit. This is the only thing I hate about this boss.
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>>170574473
What if you do Solaire's questline and he doesn't get corrupted by the stupid bug mask thingy? Is it the Neutral-Chaos route or what?
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>>170575065

What do you mean?
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>>170574921
That sounds more like an exercise in tedium than difficulty
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>>170575212
Headcanon
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>>170574558
DS1:
Sorcery is extremely overpowered for pve but also boring as shit.
Miracles are quite cool but you only get 3 charges of best attack miracle per ng cycle and other than that offensive ones are pure trash.
Pyromancy is for melee hybrids with 45 dex but overall a very enjoyable school of casting.
DS1:
Both sorcery and hexes are in a delicate situation where all good stuff was overnerfed into oblivion. Sure, you can make a webm of doing a flashy pve kill with a combo of magic, but the truth is, there's 3-4 good pve sorceries and 2-3 hexes, everything else is a ridiculous shit, and in hex's case that shit also eats your souls.
Pyromancy and miracles are probably the lowest points in series too. Especially pyromancy as they removed or nerfed majority of good stuff from DS1 and made a fucking chaos fireball locked between either 500 arena kills or ng++. For miracles you will be spamming Heavenly Thunder all the way through the game.

This all comes form someone who really likes caster builds. But souls games are really not the ones you can play for real caster fun.
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>>170563029
I don't know why, but for some reason Beatrice is maybe my favorite NPC phantom. She can solo the butterfly, but it lacks the impact of Tarkus throwing the Golem off of Sen's, and she's more of a hindrance against the Four Kings since she deals so little damage to them.

Still, I have a lot of love for this witch.

>>170561890
The dragon behind Duke's Dear Freja.

>>170562268
>hair is attached to the mask
So where did the hair come from in the first place?
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Can someone please put down a sign at anor londo at DS3 and (you) me?

up to +5 weapon enhance and up to level 41

im 29 and am getting my ass handed to me
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>>170574730
DS4 has been great on PC but you might need a bit of software for full functionality on the trackpad and stuff like that.
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>>170575286
do I need a bluetooth adapter?
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>>170563029
>can summon her for butterfly
>can summon her for 4kangz
You know, she would fit extremely well into TRC.
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>>170575347
For wireless? Probably. I just use a long USB cable.
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>>170575281
>up to +5 weapon enhance and up to level 41
why?
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>>170575286
You can get full trackpad functionality on pc? How?
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>>170574921
Also this makes me realize why miracles are so fucked.
At the point I'm at now, basic lightning spears from a +3 chime are doing more than double the damage of an R1 with a buffed +3GS. They are actually a valuable form of offense that I regularly take advantage of to kill dangerous enemies faster.

The upgrade scaling on casting tools is fucked so that low upgrade level + high faith means fuck all damage, and high upgrade level + middling faith means fuck all damage. Miracles fall behind physical weapons as a form of melee attack because you simply can't be high enough of a level to have enough faith to make your chime/talisman upgrades worthwhile at the earliest practical point where you can have a +6 melee weapon. Casting tools not gaining scaling from upgrades puts them well behind melee weapons just by the virtue of how unreasonably fast the game pushes you to +3 and then +6.

I can't help but wonder if the upgrade system was designed with a much longer game in mind and then hastily rezoned when they realized that they didn't have time to make what they planned, condensing the upgrade rate in the process.
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>>170574921
>>170575220
>muh Bamco

Base Bloodborne is pretty much balanced the same way as DS3. And I dunno, it works alright in my opinion.
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>>170575579
thats the most i can connect with for summon range

getting a sunbro twink to ng+
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>>170575616
Why not use a password to circumvent that though?
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>>170575616
If you use a password, it doesn't matter what soul level you are.
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>>170575587
With the basic DS4Windows software
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well now I look dumb

someone sign down with the password kawaii then

@ anor londo bonfire thanks chaps
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>>170575893
On the way.
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>>170575785
You're a magnificent piece of shit
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>>170575220
Most regular mooks take 3 R1s to kill but if I'm willing to cast a spell or use a WA, they die in 1-2. Using stomp is actually worthwhile since it lets me handle large groups quickly, like the irithyll slave gank room. Larger, more powerful enemies are much more dangerous because they actually take some time to bring down. Going through CotD unupgraded made each cathedral knight feel like a a midboss and seeing how varied their moveset and AI was, I can't help but feel that was intended. Both spells and WAs feel much more valuable when I can't steamroll mooks in a pair of fast R1s or mash big enemies down in 3-4.

Some things obviously don't get any better. Wolnir is still a joke no matter how much I gimp myself, his mechanics just suck. But, a lot of parts of the game that I originally felt were on the weak end felt much stronger and more complete experiences overall when I wasn't an overpowered God on a sightseeing tour. For reference, killing a Cathedral Knight with a +0 Executioner's GS took the same number of hits as killing a Millwood Knight with a +10 40/40 refined Claymore. It's hardly tedious, but it ensures that I can't always just shut down big, dangerous things before they have a chance to act.

So far my pace has been +0 to AW (infusions allowed only after Deacons), +3 until Dancer and I'm currently feeling like I'll probably just stay at +3 post-dancer and stick with that until the end though I'll see how I feel when I get there.
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>first time in Yahar'gul
I was not fully prepared
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>>170570953
Where is everybody getting all this ringed city content from?
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>>170575785
>lightyagumi dark
>SOMETHING SOMETHING DEMON

Why do popular games get infested with subhuman edgy kids.
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>>170576210
http://imgur.com/a/A6diD
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>>170575249

Just noting. I'd probably use more unorthodox spells.

DS1:
Sorcery: If that's the case, I'll avoid it.
Miracles: As weird as it sounds, I'd rather not use WoG. I'd prefer to use the Lightning Spears, Emit Force, GMB, and Karmic JUSTICE!
Pyro: Specifically why I'd rather do a low level invasion build, as I'd have the spells with minimum stats for a weapon.

DS2:
Sorc/Hex: That's unfortunate. I knew that some Hexes took souls, but if the only good ones do, I'd rather not go for that.
Pyro/Miracle: That's sad as well.

So with that in mind, I'm thinking of going with DS1.
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Anyone on ps4 have a morion blade?
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>>170562384
It will be streamed, yes.
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>>170575893
>>170575970
Just making sure: you're on PC, right?
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>>170575893
Wow that scaling is brutal, my guy felt weaker than my own twink. Switching.
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>>170576194
The first time I went to Yahar'gul it was with my little brother's build.


He's not very good at making builds. It was a grind.
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>>170576267

Dark Orb is super spammable and doesn't require any souls.

It's boring as fuck just shooting balls of darkness at stuff, though.
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Any FCs up my fellow niggers?
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>>170576616
One just ended.
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>>170576078

Thanks.
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>>170576267
>Pyro: Specifically why I'd rather do a low level invasion build
you can do some pretty ridiculous stuff at low levels with ds1 pyros though you will take a pretty notable penalty to cast speed on anything but firestorm/tempest
i did a completely assholish pyro tank once who just walked forward under iron flesh and burned people to crisp
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Hey /dsg/, I haven't touched DS3 in my PC since when they fixed the steam family account trick to get summoned as a blue ghost, deleting my progress.
How's the Steam version these days? Barren? With even more hacking?
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>>170576708
Well fuck me, I was busy getting 5 types of cancer from League of Legends.
Seriously, I play once a year or so and it still feels like too much.
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>>170576913
That's what you get for being a loser
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>>170576483
I can't wait for my friend to get to Yahar'gul, he will probably shit his pants. Which might be an issue because he comes to play the game at my place but oh well.
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>>170575416
I'd love to see her cloak with cloth physics.
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Playing Dark Souls 2, and I'm trying to run a Sorcerer. I'm still using melee weapons (using the fire sword mostly), but I want to see where I should level my stats more. I've already reached soft cap (40, right?).

VGR 10
END 6
VIT 5
ATN 16
STR 16
DEX 9
ADP 8
INT 40
FTH 20

Where should I spend?
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>>170576878
PC version is quite lively, and I can't say I've seen any hacking taking place.
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>>170576194
Yahar'gul's no fucking joke man. It's like Anor Londo in terms of difficulty spike.
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>>170577170
I remember one particular hacker making videos of himself teleporting across the map, instantly cursing other players and apparently also getting them shadowbanned or whatever it was called.

It was mostly proof of concept but people were always afraid of him showing up. Can't even remember the name.
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>>170577016
I got to high rank and just stopped playing, the game is boring as shiet.
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>>170577162

VGR, END, and ATT are the stats you should focus on. Then maybe STR/DEX depending on what weapons you want to use.
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>>170577342
Fuck, I did not get time to edit the post.

Is darkmoon summoning fixed? I remember it being impossible to become a blue ghost save for a few lucky people or making a steam family share account. I actually farmed for those ears from silver knights over and over again.
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>>170577273
It was also spooky as fuck because the enemies keep respawning behind you and the level is really dark so if you're too slow in progressing, the enemies will come and rape you from behind.
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>pick up DS3 again after not playing since around release
>think I'll just respec a character to something that sounds fun for TRC
>only character is in NG+++
>level 118 faith build
>do piddly shit damage to normal enemies
>basic hollows chunk me if they connect

So whats a fun PvE build for my brand new character?
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>>170577342
MALCOLM REYNOLDS
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What the fuck is his problem?
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>>170577584
He used to be a big bad ass that slayed demons and now his faggy brother cursed him
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>>170577493
You can get summoned well enough up to around SL60. The problem isn't anything with the Darkmoon covenant's programming so much as its design; tying it to the Way of Blue instead of giving us a proper Blue Eye Orb means you just don't get summoned very often.
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>>170577584
His crown is too big, and it's covering his eyes.
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>reach the gray giant
>he calls towards the sky
>shit starts shaking
>camera moves to the sun
>sky, and sun, start flashing dark
>a dark fog, starts to envelop the sun and the sky
>camera returns to the player, as the dark fog fills the room, until everything is pitch darkness
>shaking stops
>bright white ring appears in the sky, a large, 4-winged being floating underneath it
>the being starts to glow a divine white as it slowly descends into the arena
>the light of the being reveals the room, the now missing roof, and the visibly swirling and churning dark fog
>you can now see the being, it is abnormally tall and distinctly humanoid, yet more dragon than man; possessing the torso of a dragon, and two sets of angelic, feathered wings, yet a twisted yet beautiful human face, and the gait and bipedal grace of man.
>pulls a blade and shield of pure light out of his own chest
>healthbar appears Arvel the Divine One
>fights passively with his shield up, striking quickly when you are close and summoning divine magic from the white sun in the sky when you keep your distance
>at half health he abandons his shield, his sword doubles in size, and he becomes far more aggressive, summoning rain of divine magic during his combos
>when he dies he falls to the ground, and everything goes dark
>burning brand replaces the white sun
>the being bursts into dark flame and shrieks, it's healthbar refilling as Arvel, the Sealed One
>becomes even more aggressive, it's blade now dealing pure fire damage, now leaves a trail of fire as it moves and summons fiery spells from the sky constantly
>regresses to an animalistic form at half health, its flames becoming pure dark, now breathing dark fire and fighting with its claws
>drops the soul of man

I have too much time and no life
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>>170577584
they were fucking before you came in
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>>170575212

>gains power from devouring people
>their corpses add to his mass, and his soul
>uses the gravelord sword as an enchantment
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>>170577720
No anon it was definitely a programming error.
I spent literal hours with the blue covenant items and I never got summoned once.
Then I made that family account thing and I would get summoned every 5 minutes.
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>>170578062
If that was the case then, it certainly isn't now.
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>>170568463
Just happened to me as well, was just running around in firelink shrine and suddenly bam. Wasnt even carrying any dlc items, since it was a new character that was just about to go fight crystal sage.
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project kawaii at the anor londo is still ongoing if anyone wants to join for a 3v1 aldrich

we're getting murdered in here
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>>170577946
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>>170578208
SL? PC or PS4?
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>>170577950

Nito never ate people.
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>>170577273

>yahar'gul
>like anor londo

nigger, imagine if in dark souls, after beating the gaping dragon, dog skeletons spawned in random places in the world, and if one killed you it fucking teleported you to the tomb of the giants with no way out until you found a bonfire

it's fucking retarded.
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>>170578324
>it's a nito war crimes denial thread
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>>170577584
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>>170578324

>is LITERALLY a giant mass of skeletons, not even with a primordial skeleton in the middle, the actual fucking "real" nito consists of multiple different animals and beings
>nito never ate people
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>>170578439
Nito was a good guy.
He just wanted to be left undisturbed underground in a endless party of spooky skelebros.
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>>170578426
>implying pre moon yahargul is bad in any way
The lantern is a short jog away up some stairs nigga, the worst thing in there is Parl.
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>>170578062
Not a programming, but rather an intentional one with From being stupid.
When you use a REO, you're put in a queue, and when a player gets an invasion, he is sent out of the queue and has to rejoin.

Auto summon covenants don't have this feature, you never leave the queue while you're using them. And here comes the catch, From themselves decides they wanted people t not lose their place in the queue. When you sit hours with no summons, it's because there are like 50 or so guys ahead and whenever they get a summon and finish their mission, they return to their world without leaving the place in the queue, your only chance being if they all stopped playing right now. Queue placement seems to depend on your account being younger somehow.
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>>170578439

>spreading lies about a guy who JUST wanted to nap

That's mean.

>>170578589

Yes. There's nothing saying that he did.
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what can I accomplish with cheat engine/dev build in dark souls?

could I, like, make my own custom "sotfs" style settings where it'd have things like tomb of the giants lighting in the nito boss room?
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>>170578589
>not even with a primordial skeleton in the middle
DO NOT
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>>170578659
Why does Aldrich work so well then
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>>170578802
Because that area is extremelly populated. If you spam REO there you will often get instant invasions and most of times take hours to find the same host again. There are so many worlds for Faithful to invade the covenant just works.
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>>170557247
Why is SotFS so weird with NPC invasions and summons?

Literally nothing there then if you happen to bonfire and come back all if a sudden invasion or summon sign that wasn't there before
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project kawaii is COMPLETE!

Thanks to everyone who came out to level sync down to 29 and get our asses handed

Fina of Carim will return to DSG next time a boss is being a btich
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>>170577584
he's protecting his pocket boipucci
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>>170578601
On my first run through I didn't know about the lamp and thought I was stuck in the area until I defeated Paarl. I got him on first try but I was sweating bullets.
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>>170576539
Yeah... I'd want to have things be a bit more dynamic than that.
>>170576858
That looks like a fun build! I might try it out sometime.

These were the two that I came up with. I'm fine with midrolling and not using the best stuff. The pyro build is mainly for Sen's Fortess and maybe the Painted World.

This is also my first time doing something like this with pictures, so bear with me.
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>>170578972
Congrats!
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>>170577584
He left his dinner in the oven, and has just realized it'll burn down the castle.
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Anyone on PS4 interested in duping some souls?
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>>170578972

Ah, good. You made it through. Sorry I couldn't be of more help; I was lagging pretty hard in your world. Teleporting Silver Knights are not fun, and neither is flickering Alrdrich.
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>>170578731
>>
SILVER
KNIGHTS
WEAPONS
WHEN
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>>170562434
>this post is not even responded to

Makes the neurons cross the synapses.
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>>170579480
Very nice of him to keep a skull on top so that the "head" can be identified.
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>>170579547
You are not allowed to complain about the discord circlejerk
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>>170579480
Jesus fuck it's literally Aldrich
What the fuck
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>>170561573
Hollows = firewood
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>>170579480
Is this some beta version Nito?
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>>170579620
Seriously, is anybody going to taket that shit seriously?
And on a side note:

Why does every general in /vg/ has some sort of "elite" mememancers that speak in behalf of everybody else?
Shouldn't we I don't know, fucking vote or something?
Im sure as hell that we could all agree in some rules and weapon bans with just some polls and a nice conversation.
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>>170567690
Jesus, is the lore in Dark Souls II this bad?
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>>170579746
but he is not wearing a fedora
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>>170579403
I can just give you a bunch of Souls I have. Where do you want to meet?
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>>170579913
It's Nito with the skeleton "cloak" he wears removed.
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>>170579780

I would like that, but it's probably too late now.

Not sure why your posts weren't addressed, either. Not even my question about healing miracles was addressed. Seems kinda dumb to announce all these rules and shit, but not actually take heed to the feedback anons give.
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>>170575280
I agree with this sentiment. There are only two NPC's I'll summon in DS1, Beatrice and Tarkus. I also like her set more than any other witch set.
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>>170580049
It's trully demoralizing as we all know the tournament will still be a turtle vs turtle match every round.
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>>170579874

for scholar of the first sin, they rewrote almost every item description and introduced a character who does nothing but vomit exposition.

nothing else needs to be said
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>>170579746
No. It's Nito with his cloak of other skeletons removed. His left leg is pretty messed up as well. In Lobos's limbo run of DaS1, you can see Nito's main skeleton as it doesn't show the other layers.
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>>170580112
>>170579780
>>170580049
According to the honchos running the thing and the head admin the thread is too dumb and has too many anons that disagree on too many things, there's also "too many shitters" to be allowed to make "important decisions"

I don't get it anymore than you do
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>tfw you get summoned in Ariandel Chapel and find the host hasn't even opened the door to the stairs yet, and starts leading you across the bridge
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>>170580223
the fucked up leg probably fits into when that "occult rebellion" tried to kill him and steal his power.
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>>170580250
>"too many shitters"
>"important decisions"

WEW LAD
It's like we could vote or shiet so even if some newfriends tell them to ban a fucking Greataxe it will still not show in the polls as I bet my ass ALL of us in the thread will vote for Estoc to be banned.

They didn't even ban actual cancer weapons just "annoying" or "passive" stuff.
Heck, I prefer to see two guys regenerating for 2 mins than one faggot hidden behind a greatshield poking once every 20 seconds.

Also why do they speak like this was a actual tournament? It's a shitty FC with rounds after all.
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>>170579780
>Why does every general in /vg/ has some sort of "elite" mememancers that speak in behalf of everybody else?
Because the overwhelming majority do nothing always
Then one guy does something and the 99% DEMANDS that they have a say in it because they feel entitled to be in control of other's work while doing none themselves.

If you want your own voice, speak up before somebody speaks for you. Be a bitch, get treated like a bitch.
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>>170580603
That's no fucking excuse to speak for everyone else.

It shouldn't be:
>"HEY GUYS WE ARE HOSTING A TOURNAMENT HERE ARE THE RULES"

But:
>"Hey guys, we are GOING to host a tournament, shall we all discuss the rules as we are ALL going to participate in it?"
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>>170580828
It is

>"HEY GUYS WE ARE HOSTING A TOURNAMENT HERE ARE THE RULES, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM, DON'T JOIN"
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>>170580886
Well, if they want to be by themselves and fight eachother instead of having an actual setup be my guest.
But I tell you, I haven't seen anyone over here that's ok with the rules.
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>>170580828
>It shouldn't be:
See, you don't actually get a say in this because you did nothing and waited for someone else to make an event for you.

Here's how it works:
You can do things yourself and hope others jump on board
OR
You can follow like a lil' bitch

You chose option two. Now the tournament is on the table and if you don't like what's on the table then you can take it (like a lil' bitch) or leave it.

Whining "b-but I should have a saaaay" when you're just a voice in the cloud humping the leg of another's effort is absolutely infantile. If you want to participate in the big-boy talk of organizing events and doing things, then man up and do things.
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>>170579480
>>170579746
>>170580223
Nito with the aura and skeleton cloak removed is the beta Nito. Instead of remaking his model they just added skeletons and covered up the old design.

When faced with a problem, just add skeletons.
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Ok, I think I finally got the cosplay idea done.
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>>170563332
ENB is still streaming and doing fine. I miss his DeS / BB stuff tho'.
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I'm a little bit conflicted. I'm at 50/50 using exile greatsword for dat B/B quality scaling, but I'm also at 40 faith. Is it worth going down to 40/40 to take full advantage of darkmoon blade or will I be gimping myself?
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>>170580250
>advertise event in thread
>don't even to respond to questions just go back to discord

Ok then.
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>>170580453
>not hacking the bridge when he gets partway on it, plummeting him to his death and fining him an Ember for wasting your time
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>>170581301
>50/50/40
If you're going to overlevel like that, then you may as well just grind the extra 20 levels...
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>>170581070

How is one supposed to voice their opinions and take an active stance when the rules weren't even discussed here? Nobody aside from those in the discord knew about it until everything was decided by them.

It doesn't have anything to do with being "manly" or being a "bitch", it's about a lack of communication.
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>>170557247
If i talk to the first singing girl in Shrine of Armana does she disappear and stop singing?

I cant remember
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>>170578659
So you're telling me nothing changed?
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Can you kkck in Bloodborne?
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>>170581901
Nope, the second one will though.
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>>170581237
Try adding something ultra light to head and chest instead of naked.
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>>170581824
I'm 130
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>>170582151
I guess I could put the pyromancer crown on the head, but nothing fits the stereotype better than naked on the chest.
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>>170557420
Are consumables restristed?
Green blossom, resins etc.
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is 40 STR for the crypt sword is das2 worth it ? i can use more weapons with dark infusions with 20 extra levels
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>>170581981
no
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>>170582186
>I'm overleveled
Yes, you are.
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>>170582929
Dumb metakid
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>>170582814
Just stick with 20 and 2-hand it. It only ever goes up to C scaling in Str anyways, you're not missing out on anything.
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>>170583052
i was considering it because of the H1 moveset, but youre right its no big deal, thankfully respects are a thing
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>>170582982
If you purely want to level up for PvE, then why are you asking for opinions here?
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>Host has more estus and hp than you
>Host has 2/3 phantoms at his side
>Seed of the giants
Well, at least it's better than not having a whole red eye orb and being unable to use healing items, like in DKS2
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>>170583343
the whole red eye orb thing is a mega shit, but at least the bell covenant exist
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>>170583339
130 still matches both 120 and 150 metas.
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>>170583343
no it isn't lol.
You can't heal but neither can enemy phantoms which is huge.
You can also invade after boss clear and hollow'd players,which is why there isn't a full orb in the first place and probably one of their reasons for the turd shit SM system.
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what's better greatswords or straight swords
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>>170583993
>caster build that isn't pyro
Straightswords
>physical build
greatsword
>pyro build
Onyx Greatsword
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>>170583886
>You can't heal but neither can enemy phantoms which is huge.
Doesn't matter, the host has 10 estus whereas you have none. You are literally force to have faith in Dark Souls 2 if you want to invade
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>>170584786
>You are literally force to have faith in Dark Souls 2 if you want to invade
And DS1, right?
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>every person in the arena constantly backsteps until you're in range
>decide to do the same thing back
>they stand and clap

The lack of self-awareness is ridiculous.
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>>170585140
You can use Humanity in Dark Souls 1.

Anyway, Seed of the giants is one of the most retarded things From ever did. Enemies not attacking was basically the only advantage the invader had.
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>>170583993

There's not a clear distinction. I generally like straight swords more because you can be much more aggressive with them and the damage isn't that much worse in practice.
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What happens if you don't have the int/faith for a talisman, but you have enoughf or the miracle you're using? is it slower casting speed? lower damage if it's not a buff?
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>>170585140

Did you not play DS1?
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>>170562159
That's a fucking sick screenshot.pyromancy is the goddamn best. how can those faggot sorcerers and rotten clerics compete
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>>170585230
>>170585417
>he has to heal to win
You're no better than the faggot hosts.
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>>170583343
>DaS2
>being unable to use healing items
>host has butt buddies

Only if you were invading with the shitty covenants. Path of the Dragon and Pilgrims of Dark both let you use healing items and denied the host summons. PoD was restricted to three kinda shitty arenas, though.
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>>170565094

Looks like one of the Demon's claws made into a sword
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>>170585392
All scaling properties of the spell are drastically reduced. Blessed weapon has a non-scaling +7.5% boost to weapon AR (not affected) and a scaling HP regen effect (reduced to 1hp/sec). Tears of Denial would be unaffected, Bountiful Light would be affected.
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>>170584786
>you need faith healing
>mobs are the only advantage an invader has
Jesus Christ it's like the anti-gud.
I mean gee wizz too bad you can't punish sipping in DS2 like you can in DS3....
Oh wait.

I'd rather throw on the attunement for fucking warmth than than have to only build fucking meme hornet one shots because any host that didn't eat lead paint as a child can automatically win any war of attrition with resummoning full estus phantoms.
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>>170585640

PoD invasions didn't tend to be too frequent either, from what I remember.

Also dragon invades weren't even really invasions, it was just getting summoned for duels. What'll always mystify me about DS2 covenants is that the dedicated dueling covenant has no arena, while BoB and Blue Sentinels, two covenants oriented towards random invasions, do.
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Any chance with the DLC (or shortly after) there will be a massive balance patch that makes weapon arts useful and most magic spells useful?
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>>170585961
kek m8 they had a year and basically buffed acid surge, then quickly reverted it. Acid surge nigger. They looked at this fucking game and thought "Hey, do you know what really needs a hand? Acid surge."

Did you even know that there are broken armor and weapon models? They're pretty fashionable if you want to make a burnt/decrepit looking character.
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>>170585961
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>>170585895
PoD invasions had a ridiculously fuckhuge SM range compared to standard invasions (something like twice as wide up and down), which helped since nobody went there before 1M or after 2M. So long as you were between 1M-2M, you'd have gotten invasions all day long.

Not so much anymore now that the game is dead, though.
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>>170585554
It's rather difficult to not heal when the host drowns himself in estus.
>>170585640
Path of the dragon was only used for duels if I remember correctly.
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>>170586307
>It's rather difficult to not heal when the host drowns himself in estus.
It's easy, if you aren't mentally handicapped.
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>>170586307
Dragons were for fighting hosts without phantom backup and keeping your healing. People called it duels, but nobody ever said you had to play by any rules the game didn't already force you to.
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>start das2 for the first time
>after some exploring, find the witches house
>you will lose your souls over and over and over again lol
>die to a fucking ambush in the woods
>This is dark souls :^)
They really went all in on the marketing.
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>>170586307
Pilgrims of Dark. Path of the Dragon was DaS1, it's called Dragon Remnants in DaS2.
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>>170586423
>>after some exploring, find the witches house
>walking in a straight line
>exploring
>>dying to enemies in the first area
Oh no.jpg
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>>170586423
>ambush in the woods
>in the tutorial
You know those monkey things don't swarm you unless you attack them first, right? Otherwise, how the fuck are you dying to those tutorial mobs?
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>>170586362
>It's easy, if you aren't mentally handicapped.
The host has the complete advantage, that's undeniable. You can punish him if he's retarded, but if he know what he's doing, then the fact that he has more healing items will weight in his favor, this is a fact.
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>>170586612
>giving up at the first sign of trouble
And that's why you're a colossal failure. It's not like he has an infinite amount of healing items, anyway. Learn to improvise and strateg-ize.
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>want to use a magic build in DaS3
>don't feel remotely powerful until I near 150 and get cucked out of fight clubs

What am I doing wrong?
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>>170586829
>What am I doing wrong?
Playing DS3.
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>>170586829

trying to make a magic build for 120 pvp.

whenever i open up the calculator it always seems like i'm missing a lot and making a lot of sacrifices, where with physical builds it's always really straightforward and i can think about adding other stuff.
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>>170586786
>It's not like he has an infinite amount of healing items, anyway.
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>>170587043
>implying Lifegem is an infinite use item
>he can't dish out more damage than the Lifegem regens
Not only are you stupid, but you're fucking bad.
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>>170586786
Are you retarded or something? The fact that you can outplay or win doesn't exclude the fact that he has a massive advantage. It's like starting a soccer game where the adversary has more players and a two point advantage over you and then saying ''well, you can still win guise!''. Well, of course you can you Ape, that's not the point.
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>>170587212
I got a crazy idea. Stop playing soccer. Or you can sit there and keep complaining about things you can't control. >>>/r9k/
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>>170576242
Would these be considered bullshots?

I know it's not true of all areas but the majority look washed out with a sort of terrible drabness to them that only a reshade can fix, whereas these don't really have that.

Is it just better lighting and aesthetic design in the DLC(s) in general?
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>>170587043
>Multiple grades of healing gems, 99 each
>Lizzy mushrooms
>DBs
>Crimson Water
>Roots
>Estus
>Maybe even some healing miracles too, which can be recovered with more items

What were they thinking?
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>>170576242
>another gimmick dragon fight
Can't wait.
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>>170587349
I have a better idea for you, learn how argue and stop being a turbo faggot who's conforming with a fucking terrible decision/mechanic just because you want to defend your shitty game, either that, or you're trying to feel superior, which is backfiring because it's just making you look like a retarded.
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>>170587580
>host has to slow down and or stop in place to use every one of these
>shitters still can't manage to attack the host during these animations

>>170587620
>gets booty blasted and resorts to name calling
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>>170587207
>>implying Lifegem is an infinite use item
Good luck wasting his 99 lifegems while you can't use none.
>>he can't dish out more damage than the Lifegem regens
Host can easily play defensively, especially if he's ganking on you, which happens often.
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>>170587620
>it's just making you look like a retarded.

>>170587769
>especially if he's ganking on you, which happens often.
>DS2
Am I in 2014?
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>>170587738
>>gets booty blasted and resorts to name calling
Not only you are incapable of understanding simple things and arguing, but you also are a hypocrite with no self awareness, since you resorted to name calling long before and now, is accusing me of doing the same.

Also, ''u mad'' is literally the bottom of the barrel of shitposting, apply yourself.
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>>170587835
Looks like you just know how to type using epic green texts, the mark of a true shitposter.
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>>170587835
Try to invade on Iron Keep and see how many times you will be ganked.
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>>170588189
I've been invading since the start of RtD, and nobody ever had any summons on them, ever. Every host in IK would always just run back to the bonfire and let me kill them, or just jump off the bridge.
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>>170587738
You are basically forced to play aggressively as a invader and that can be easily exploited by the host. I lost the count of how many times I baited invaders into a parry when they thought I was gonna use estus.
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>>170588292
I played Dark Souls 2 for almost two years and ganks were pretty common in 2014 and 2015.
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Stop summoning phantoms.
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>>170587349
What fucking /r9k/ has to do with anything?
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>>170587212
Not that guy but this fucking started as a dude saying that DS3 system is not as bad as invader not being able to use healing items.

First retarded thing: you don't need faith you can just spec warmth if you want healing, anyone who invaded in DS2 should know this
Second retarded thing: DS3 instant estus is pretty much impossible to punish, unlike in 2 where it's easier to get in an attack if you're pressuring or nail him with a talisman because sipping has an animation and rolls are much more limited
Third retarded thing: phantoms being able to sip AND hosts being able to sip is a far worse healing barrier than just hosts being able to sip and slowly regen. You've got 1 replenishing hp bar to chew through vs several, the odds of winning attrition in 3 is much lower which is why hornet and catacombs is popular

>>170587620
Like see how fucking stupid this shit is.
You're not presenting any arguments, you're just going "HUR DUR HOW DO I WIN VS A HOST WITH MORE HEALING AND SEED".

How about you stick close and attack him you stupid faggot? It's a much more effective strat in 2 than 3, for reasons outlined above. Thats your goal, argue that it's easier to punish sipping, fight phantoms and win attrition in 3. That was the fucking premise nigger, not pointing out that "host has an advantage" like every fucking game in the series.
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>>170589015
everything
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>>170588579
>ganks were pretty common in 2014 and 2015.
>>>>>>>>>>>2017
really tickles your brain
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>>170589162
>ou can just spec warmth if you want healing, anyone who invaded in DS2 should know this
>warmth
Two edged sword. Not nearly as good as estus.

>DS3 instant estus is pretty much impossible to punish, unlike in 2 where it's easier to get in an attac
Right, but you have to remember that Dark Souls 3 is also faster in general. Punishing estus spam on 2 efficiently is pretty hard without hexing.

>n. You've got 1 replenishing hp bar to chew through vs several,
Yeah, difference being that in the case of Dark Souls 3 you have 7 estus, in 2 you have none. The game has shitty latency and it's pretty easy to get hit even if you are really good and careful, having at least a few estus give you a bigger safety net and thus, give you more chances to secure a kill on the host.
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>>170589280
>Game is 3 years old now and thus, less people are playing
Color me surprised. Dark Souls 3 will also have less gank after some years, believe me.
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Hey. I know you guys have good advice. Starting a cleric build in DS2. Should I wait until after the Pursuer boss or go fight Dragonrider right away? Btw I'm not new to the game, I've just never done a cleric before.
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>>170585801
How about Dorhys' Gnawing? I guess It'll deal less dark damage, but does it deal less bleed buildup?
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>>170589162
>That was the fucking premise nigger, not pointing out that "host has an advantage" like every fucking game in the series.
The host has very few advantages over invaders in DSK1. In Demon's the only advatange is the HP bar, but it doesn't matter much because of second chance.
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>>170589829
I just beelined Pursuer so I could get to Lost Bastille and by consequence McDuff. I was lucky to get a boltstone off my one trade with the crows though, so that allowed me to make a lightning weapon earlier than I otherwise would have.
Miracles in 2 are probably in their most worthless state across all three games. At least 3 has Lightning Stake and Gnawing.
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>>170590057
Thanks. I think magic in this game is weak too, but I'm a sucker for trophies
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>>170589784
>telling somebody to go invade in a game to show them how common ganks are
>gets told that there are no more ganks because the game is older now
>"well duh nobody's playing"
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Rate muh build
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>>170590863
nice legs
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Also, are we doing fashion souls ever again?
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>>170590863
Ditch the ATT for Divine Pillars, and only use base requirements for the buff and heal, and use all those points towards VIG and or STR.
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>>170590981
The Lord frowns upon leg day
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>>170590863

Aren't Crusader builds supposed to be like 150 or something?
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>>170591217
It's a work in progress, I haven't even started NG+ on this guy, yet
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>>170564249
I'm playing my 360 copy on my xbone as soon as it finishes installing. Gt AucunVisage if you play on xbone/360
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>>170591032
We're always doing fashion souls.
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>create character and pop all boss souls to help finish it quickly
>realize I needed Lightning Storm
>don't want to go into NG+ until after DLC2
Why the hell did they remove the option to drop boss souls again? You can drop someone a regular soul worth 25k, but a 20k boss soul? Nope.
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>>170591519
>create character and pop all boss souls to help finish it quickly
>don't want to go into NG+ until after DLC2
what
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>>170591635
I went through the game and DLC1, killed every boss and ate all of their souls to get to my required SL.

Pretty simple.
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>>170591751
Ignoring your shit ambiguously worded sentence why didn't you just farm the fucking gold fatties with the serpent ring and shield of want a couple of times
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>>170591519
Precisely because of what you just attempted. If people want the spells achievements, they'll have to beat the bosses and level the covenants themselves.
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>>170591505
What boots should I use with this getup? Currently going with Leonhard's, but the undead legion boots look pretty good too but apparently it's not fashion if I use 2 pieces of the same set.
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>>170592053
Because grinding is boring and tedious.
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>>170591635
That green man looks like a rider.

TFW I can't get good fashion for a Kuuga build.
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>>170592110
Cathedral Knight look great with that armor, if you have the Vit for it that is.
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>>170592149
>irrevocably eat Vordt's 2000 soul and Wolnir's 20000 soul, dooming you to have to ask for other people to drop you the weapons and completely erasing the chance of getting the spells when one round of the fatties with Avarice, Serpent, and SoW would have outdone most boss souls
>only have to do it like 3 times even on NG to have more souls than you really ever need
>this was a reasonable choice to you
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PC HW FC
pass: dsg
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>>170592276
>tfw vit 7
Such is life in the zone.
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>>170592325
I didn't need Vordt or Wolnir's souls.
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how does anyone play using sorceries in this game? it's so fucking boring, and hard in a bad way
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>>170592534
>I'll be pedantic instead of admitting the validity of the point
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>>170592606
Simple: they don't. It's called Quality Souls 3 for a good reason.
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>>170592715
Gold fatties are too artificial difficulty for me to waste my time grinding.
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What happened to Gwyndolin's tits?
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>>170592781
>lock on
>circle
>backstab
>roll when one inevitably *flies behind u*
>backstab that one instead
So hard. Don't even need Rapport.
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>>170592606
I'm >>170592110, just beat SoC as a dex/int build.

If you don't want to die of boredom, you get a crystal weapon and a raw weapon early on. Crystal for general use and raw for buffing when shit gets real. Also use flashsword and soul greatsword if you like.

Basically, minimize the time you spend casting soul arrow.
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>>170592823
Aldrich ate them
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>>170592823
He never had any in the first place
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>>170592823

He's not wearing the ring of reversal
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>>170593176
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>>170593353
hnnnngg
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>>170580453
>stumble across the bridge
>do some mental gymnastics to determine where he hasn't gone
>swing at it and leave it for the host and his fuckbuddy to find later on
I fucking love this shit.
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>get invaded by FUGS + offhand Rapier/Crossbow guy #112
>Just about to kill him with my Gargoyle Flame Hammer when suddenly
>FPS: 60
>FPS: 4
>get killed by the time my frames come back

What the fuck did I buy a fucking 1070 for if I was still going to get these fucking framedrops?
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>>170594226
Are you sure it's the game and not some external program on your PC taking up resources all the sudden?
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>>170594371
It happens all the time, regardless of what I have or don't have running in the background. I can't be the only one that this shit happens to.
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>>170594489
Only framedrops I've ever gotten in DS3 were a direct result of something like anitvirus deciding it was time to do a random scan.
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>>170557420
are people who are actually good at this game going to be interested in this?
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>>170585961
Hey, some weapon arts are useful. Stance R1 fucks up anyone trying to turtle, estoc WA has fucking stupid range and does fair damage even without FP, and crow quills obviates the need to carry throwing knives, for example.

Magic is pretty ass though.

>balance patch
Fuuuuuuck no, they won't. I'm just hoping that new magic rapier thing in the trailer is decent.
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>>170585961
>weaponarts
>not useful
t. tried to parry with a katana and got destroyed
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>>170579480
Those ribteeth jutting out remind me a lot of gaping/pontiff doggos
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMqCTR5OKeM

vaati sure has changed over the years
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>Deacons on NG+ with an Int build
Holy fuck, when did these dickheads get gud all of a sudden? I do next to no damage to them because of their obscene magic resistance, and I can't kill them fast enough to stop them from summoning the curse fog. This is actually pretty tough.
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Man, why would you make the ds2 falcion a shitty bleed weapon? That's not cool.
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>>170596319
Is there anything in the souls series, including bloodborne, that is as fun as killing deacons with farron GS?
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>>170596937
Because it was a bleed weapon in Demon's Souls
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please help

I'm trying to do the Lord of Londor ending but am saving my Yoel level ups for as long as possible, I've only leveled up once to induce the Hollowing. Under what conditions does he actually die? I haven't done Abyss Watchers or Cathedral of the Deep, am I safe to poke around in and even do Cathedral of the Deep if I want to? Is it just beating Abyss Watchers/entering Catacombs of Carthus that kills Yoel prematurely?

I've always just leveled up with him instantly and gotten Yuria the moment I left and came back and I don't know what information on the internet to trust.
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>>170597128
But how am I gonna be a sanctum knight with these things now?
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>>170597231
Stepping into Catacombs kills Yoel. Make sure you get all 5 of the free levels though.
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>>170597231
It's based on entering the catacombs, I've seen stuff that says it's actually as specific as crossing the rope bridge down there but I doubt the truth of that.
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>>170597231
Yoel dies the second you step foot into Carthus. Literally, when the message pops up, he dies.

The timing of the leveling is a pittance in the long run, at that point each level should cost something like 5-6k souls, you'll earn far more than that even in Smouldering Lake.
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>>170597373
>>170597375
>>170597401
Thanks.

How far should I go with the leveling going into Cathedral/Abyss Watchers then? I might stick around and do more invasions but I have the 4 levels from Yoel and 79k Souls on me. I want to continue doing steady invasions/covenant stuff.
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>>170597623
I've always approached the Yoel levels as something to finish off ASAP if you actually aim to go through with that ending.
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That was it? Seriously?

The first phase was pretty okay, I understand that it wasn't supposed to be that hard since it's a three-phase boss and you're trying to conserve your Estus for the final show. Turns out that a crossbow actually deals decent damage to her at range, I finished her off with it twice because I didn't feel like dancing around the scythe one more time and risk getting hit for a single swing. The crossbow was also handy for marking her movement while she was invisible, but watching the snow as she jumps isn't hard and she doesn't even move that much after the jump, which let me wind up the space launch and follow up with two R1s for an easy 2k damage.

Second phase was also pretty okay, it focused more on using your peripheral vision to watch for Friede while chunking down Ariandel for the riposte. The heal was annoying, but BKGS just blows through him like nothing else, the real problem was chasing after Ariandel as he crawls across the room.

I know that facing the third phase with a summon is cheesy, but if that's the case then why make Gael available even while un-Embered (I usually play un-Embered anyways for the challenge of having lower HP)? It literally just became a game of taking turns trying to stagger her, and then dodging her attacks. The times that Gael did die, it was a pretty fun fight, but her telegraphs were pretty easy and I only had problems dodging through some of her combos.

I feel that if the third phase couldn't be staggered, and if Gael wasn't available while un-Embered, then it would have been a good boss. But with how short the DLC was, and how shitty the Gravetender fight was, it makes me glad that I bought the season pass instead of paying individually for AoA.
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>>170597623
I think most people finish Abyss Watchers and Cathedral around the SL35 range, so as long as you're around SL30 for those two zones you should get plenty of activity.

Generally I got the levels early on so that I could get access to Yuria's stuff, buying Dark Hand and the various rings can eat up a bit of your budget. You could also beat Abyss Watchers, don't go into Carthus, and buy their fashion if you need to spend the souls.
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>>170598325
>know having even a garbage tier summon is cheesy because it causes the AI to redirect and can stagger bosses like abyss watchers
>still use it while making your complaints about its design while further admitting that they're not even totally valid
>acting like Gael is some mandatory summon or even that good of one in the first place
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>>170598325
Her fight is god tier. stop being a pussy and dont summon
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>>170598325
>talking shit about SUPER DOGGO
>season pass that costs the same price as both DLCs combined
I never understood season passes.
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>>170598325
They probably wanted to make summoning Gael canon, something to do with dlc2
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>>170586237
>japanese fanmail
nice
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>>170598521
>>170598567
I'll be honest, I was expecting Gael to die straight away in phase 3 and turn it into a 1v1 fight like how Burnt Ivory King just wastes the last Loyce Knight at the start of his boss fight. He was there mainly to serve as a distraction for phase 2, maybe I should have BC'ed him out after taking out Ariandel.
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Why isn't Anri spawning in the Catacombs for me? I talked to him at the Road of Sacrifices and Firelink, as well as the first spot he spawns at in skellytown. He isn't at the bridge though, but Horace is down in Smouldering Lake and I've already dealt with him. What do? Does killing Wolnir trigger him spawning or something?
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>>170599314
If you kill Wolnir he will move on to the next spot in Irithyll
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>>170599314
>playing as a female character in Souls games
I bet you smell like toothpaste and asshole irl.
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>>170599384
So I don't need to talk to him at the bridge? I can just keep progressing without interrupting his questline?
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>Sirris's riposte does 49 damage
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>>170593353
>what is a stuffed bra

gwyndolin is a dood
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>>170599497
They either deliberately made her damage output piss-weak so she really has no chance of beating Ceighton/Hodrick or actually overlooked it entirely by mistake.

I've never tried summoning her for any bosses, is her damage fucked up during those fights too?
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>>170599675

No idea, I never use NPCs.
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>>170599479
Pretty much, there's actually not much relevance to Anri's questline in the catacombs. There isn't even a proper acknowledgement through dialogue if you inform Anri of Horace, they will say that they couldn't find him down in the lake despite clearly finding his remains and making a little grave for him.
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>>170599845
>couldn't find him down in the lake despite clearly finding his remains and making a little grave for him.
>Implying Anri isn't in denial and too choked up to admit that he/she had to bury their traveling companion.
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>>170599675
Yes she is completely useless regardless of the scenario. Her questline is a massive pain with some builds
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>>170600071
>Her questline is a massive pain with some builds

what possible build could have trouble pushing Horaces shit in?
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>>170600276
Horace? Or Hodrick? Because Hodrick is a pretty fucking big challenge to anyone who isn't 2-handing a great weapon.
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>>170600742
Undead hunter charms fuck with his AI pretty badly, same with getting him into a cycle of trying to cast one of his pyromancy spells
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>>170561746
Not banned
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>>170600071
Creighton is pretty easy, his only real gimmick is that he has more estus and a divine blessing than some other phantoms in the game. Fighting the final showdown with Hod the God can be a pain but you can just Lloyd's him into submission, or use an unparriable move.
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>>170600804
He is the godamn parry king and can fuck your shit from full health
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>>170600742
>big challenge to anyone who isn't 2-handing a great weapon.

lol just stunlock him if you're using a fast weapon
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>>170582451
They are not
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>>170600927
Only if you're acting predictable, it's possible to actually get him to partial parry or outright fail the timing if you play the cards right.
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>>170601027
this

I don't know how to explain it well but the AI reads off typical R1 spam type behavior, if you play like you're actually pvping they start reacting to everything slowly and just get trashed by you.
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What's a good mid-game place to grind for souls? Beaten everything up to and including Pontiff Sillypants, and I want to get a few more levels before I tackle the rest of the game.
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>>170601386
Being an aldrichfag for a while can be lucrative
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>>170601386
Join Aldritch's ganksquad and farm a bit. Fast summons, fair win ration since you can just BC out of other gankers and many hosts die to the archers, and you progress in the covenant.
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>>170600927
>hodrick runs 2handing his flamberge
It's go-time, gramps
>whips out shield
Woah, woah, woah, let's not do anything rush and regret it later, right?
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>>170601386
Farm the Silver Knights in Anor Londo, with Shield of Want and Silver Covetous you can get almost 12k souls per triplet.
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How do I punish Estus fags? Even when they are with Undead charm they can just play defensively, considering the latency there's really not much you can do.
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>>170601680
Have a wide variety of punishing weapons at the ready and a build that can use them.
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>>170601680
Predict when they'll sip and run in to get a free attack. If you're close or fast enough you can even attempt a backstab.

Otherwise, offhand crossbow to hit them with an exploding bolt, or Vestiges them right in the face. A single bolt doesn't do that much damage, but it mitigates their maximum HP for free.
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>>170601680
Kucris
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>>170601680
Running attack with a long weapon. I've had great success with Rapiers at mid range and Swordspear at longer ones. Doesn't punish the full amount they healed for if it's max upgrade but it does pretty good at demoralizing them.
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>>170586204
>broken weapon/armor models
W-what?
I'm doing a broken straight sword-only run and this sounds perfect
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>>170581878
Have you ever thought about maybe JOINING that discord if you're wanting to get in on planning events they're making?

Seriously, they planned the event and are posting it here for others to join. Regardless of whether your stupid ass wants to bitch about it and have input on the rules.

You know, there's always been a link to the community discord, you could have joined and helped plan events. Do you go to parties and bitch about how it wasn't planned your way and how they should have polled everyone coming on how it should be set up even though you made no effort to try and talk to the guy planning it before it was announced?

If you want to help plan something, maybe fucking try to go where the people planning it are?
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>>170601680
Either punish them with long weapons as others have said or just run them out. If estus really kills your invasion boner that much, just do fight clubs.
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>>170601962
>maybe fucking try to go where the people planning it are?

discordfags need to leave
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>>170601901
Just look o for Limit Breakers' 1 minute guide to broken armor
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>>170602081
I'm just another threadfag who signed up for the tournament.

It's run by a discord made for /dsg/, I don't use discord but a group chat made by people in the community for people in the community is only a bad thing if you're a faggot. You can't efficiently plan an event using only threads, even /v/ the musical has an IRC, and if you don't want to involve yourself with people planning an event why bother complaining about the event?
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>>170557247
>DARK SOULS 3
>DARK SOULS 2
>DARK SOULS
>DEMON'S SOULS
>BLOODBORNE
You autists missed one game
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>>170597039
Casting three clouds of pestilent mercury with the lingering dragoncrest ring and running laps as they all die
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Why do Darkwraiths drop Pale Tongues?

Seems weird for them to be serving Rosaria, considering they're the old school reds. I know players get Pale Tongues if you invade without being in a covenant too.

Are they just sick fucks?
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>>170602290
Slashy Souls doesn't need a pastebin.
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>>170602290
lords of the fallen is not souls
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>>170602290
pale imitations of the souls series need not apply
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>>170602326
No, I meant pic related, the best souls game.
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>>170602081
Not a discordfag, but he's right. You're being invited to the party, you don't get to say if there's cake with r pie. If you don't like what it has, you can make on of your own. I've multiple times tried to start some event here but people never make up their minds.
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>>170602314
>I know players get Pale Tongues if you invade without being in a covenant too.
Hit the nail on the head. Darkwraiths are invading, killing people, getting tongues, and wondering where the hell the Humanity is.
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>summoned as watchdog
>it turns into a gang kill against the host as I and another dog stunlock her to death by him stabbing her and me spitting a boulder on her repeatedly to knock her down for her to get back up to eat a shortsword to the face, then a boulder again and again
>the cherry is clearly horrified at this so he stands by and only watches

best invasion ever
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>>170602409
>people never make up their minds.

maybe it's because your ideas just suck?

The jousting and cosplay events where great and didn't need faggy discord to accomplish
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>>170601962
I went to the Discord and it's just a bunch of annoying blue guys talking over each other in a channel only they can post in deciding what should and shouldn't be allowed. Only one of them actually sounds like he knows what he's doing and the rest are just being fucking annoying and not even listening to anyone who doesn't have a special rank even if the point is valid.
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>>170602436
> and wondering where the hell the Humanity is.

now I'm just imagining a confused dark wraith staring at an ember
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I should have took screencaps, just had an invasion on my new character in swamp, he pops all his estus off the bat as he finds me and thinks we're gonna duel, I win while drinking when I need to he adds me asking "why estus?"

are people really this retarded?
I'm not gonna le honorable duel a fucking twink on a fresh character, I'm gonna have sunny D all over my armor before I end up dying fuck that.
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>>170602376
While I love that game to death, morso than any of the souls games, it's not really comparable at all in mechanics and progression.
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>>170602693
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>>170602602
Point is, you've been given chances and I've given up. If you don't like it, make your own tournament, don't go to others and act like you're entitled to be heard. Faggot
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>>170602602
Yeah and then the event fag went nuclear and nobody bothered to fill his place. Same with the collageanon who suddenly stopped posting all of a sudden. Discordfags filled the gap only because there was one at all.
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>>170602748
>you've been given chances

I think you mean you try to claim control by forcing discord down peoples throat and then act high and mighty when people still tell you that you're a shit.
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>>170602740
While rpg aspect is pretty much shit in blade of darkness, I think combat is still top notch and beats soul games at every aspect you could think of.
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>>170602815
I told you, I'm not the discordfag. Never used it.
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>>170602712
Invading people for the first time I've gotten types who seem to clearly expect no Estus HONOLABURU DUEL when going in as an invading Red or Farron Watchdog. I do feel kind of bad when I Estus and I can tell they're disappointed but I mean whatever dude I'm just here to murder you however I can.
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>>170602627
You do know that almost the entire ruleset is based off of an internal test tourney they did to see if it worked right? 99% of the rules were based off of suggestions of more than the "blue guys", the blue man group only exists mainly to actually stick all the rules together and plan shit like brackets and schedules. Surge was banned because people complained in there, same with knives. Same with the 2 estus limit to balance Darts and such.

I watched the stream of it. It seemed like a lot of fun, and the rules worked well. It's not taking away from the thread to go comment on an event being organized by others, because there wouldn't fucking be one anyway if it wasn't for that.
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>>170602827
Yeah, that part is pretty impressive. I still haven't found a game that comes close to how enjoyable the combat in that game was. Although really only the Knight and Barbarian seemed well fleshed out with combos and weapon variety.
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>>170602885
He's being unnecessarily aggressive about it but if you were there when the first tournament went down and then the buildup to this one, it's a huge shitshow and hits close to the mark he made. It's not as bad, but it's hardly defensible.
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What are the chances of finding something this great after a boss in TRC?
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>>170603007
I liked the amazon more because she relied on rolls and range of spear. Felt very different and unique compared to others.
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>>170602948
Surge was canned immediately because it was universally reviled for actually, honest fighting and you know it. You can clearly go look at the channel yourself to see all the parts where they keep talking about debating on throwing knives and shields, as well as certain weapons.
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>>170603130
memezaki hates big tits
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>>170603026
What the fuck are you talking about

The first tournament was great and everyone had fun except for that faggot who tried to rig it, and he got banned.

>>170603152
>debating on throwing knives and shields, as well as certain weapons.
so that proves there was actual thought put into it and actual debate

thank you
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>>170602903
yeah I get that but it's not like I popped all my shit and did the empty flask to signal for it.

I'm just a ill equipped shitter knight using a claymore right now, thankfully there's decent weapons to defend yourself with this early on even against twinks, if they're crazy overkill +2 protection ring fags with 1500 health while taking 60 dmg hits I just b-line it to the fog.
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>>170603215
But that wasn't the question? The point was about everyone getting a fair say in the matter. And like I said, the blue man group got most of it in their own little channel compared to everyone else.
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Help me dsg.

30% luck build with crow quills and a curved sword, or

99% strength build with only great hammers and human pine/carthus arc?
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>>170603309
if you bothered to actually read general, most tournament shit was discussed there too with everyone else in addition to the tournament channel
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>>170603329
>luck build
>crow quills

thats a dex weapon nigga

also if you're going strenght dont skip out on the millwood battleaxe, it is fucking beast
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>>170603215
>getting the first tournament to work and working on the current one haven't been a shitshow
Whatever.
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>>170603329
99% int build with smoughs hammer, full havels and calamity ring
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>>170601027
That nigga can read button inputs
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>>170603417
skull island showdown was only a shitshow because of vincent

after he got kicked out, it was smooth fucking sailing

you're him, aren't you?
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>>170601962
But i dont want to join and have them infect me with their gay
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>>170603410
Oops, meant the talons.

Yeah I'm going take a look at all the hammers and axe that i haven't used before and pick one.

>>170603432
All jokes aside, smoughs hammer is more of a handicap than a weapon.
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>>170603669
Just avoid Alex and you'll be fine.
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>>170603636
Permanent offline.

Again, there's a clear lack of complete organization or impartial judgement, the first tournament had multiple bans that got revoked and no one could settle on anything. The second tournament is just advertising in the thread to piss it off and clogging up the chat even more with the kind of shitposting it seemed like you guys were trying to get away from.

It just seems like a bad idea.
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>>170603872
I'll agree with this much. NMS, Vyro, and Ciaran are the only ones who have any idea what the fuck seems to be going on. I don't know why any of the other blues exist, or why that fucking faggot who deletes posts randomly still has mod status.

The whole thing really needs a moderation overhaul more than anything.
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>>170604045
Neck your self. You are probably just too ignorant to understand the complexity of our discussions
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>>170604045
>NMS
Good player, smart man. Has genuinely decent ideas and seems to care about the community and tournament, but acts so high and mighty that everyone disregards him for acting like a cartoon character.

>Vyro
Poor bastard running around with an Ornstein helmet and duct tape, trying to fix things and set/enforce actual rules in a mad-max style wasteland that is the the discord

>Ciaran
Whiny cunt who cries if he doesn't get his way.

The unironic most level headed one there is Garbman, and that's fucking sad
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>>170604181
Spamming /tts and the millionth "ironic" "not gay" gay anime ERP must be riveting once you understand it
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>>170602712
If he wanted a duel, he should have dropped a red sign. He has no right to expect the other guy to honorably duel him if he so rudely invaded that world.
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>>170604351
>not calling alex the smartest man alive
opinion discarded
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>>170604427
begone kekwraith, your kind is not wanted here
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>>170604045
yo fuck you, i'm doing the brackets
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>>170572685
woops
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>>170603329
>Luck build
Does literally nothing. Anybody can make a bleed build just by slapping Rouge on a weapon with innate bleed.
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>>170604393
Absolutely accurate. Although if you want to make peace during an invasion for whatever reason, I've found that most people will relax if you start dropping prism stones.
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>>170604487
I listed the guy making the brackets as one of the good ones, so you shouldn't be so mad.
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>>170604351
>>170604045
>NMS
Wannabe 1920s handlebar mustache villain that puts himself above others because at some rate he has legitimate arguments.

>Vyro
Sadfag that sits in his corner doing next to nothing most of the time until he got mod and completely caved.

>Ciaran
Might actually be autistic; not sure. Constantly talks down to others in a succinct "Don't even bother, I know I've won." way. Constantly refuses to actually reply by picking apart figures of speech instead.

I'm not in the Discord anymore but I was there since the original one was made and saw all three of them grow into the unlikable sacks they are today.
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>>170604629
Ciaran is definitely autistic. Holy shit. I've never seen someone that insufferable.

I'll tolerate NMS for the reasons given, and even Vyro because caved or not, he's the only one who actually moderates, but I honestly want Ciaran to die.
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>discord leaking into the general
How long will it take you stupid fucks to realize that there's a damn good reason that it's never linked to in the OPs?
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>>170604903
There's no point now that they're trying to shoehorn in the second tournament.
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How to make Sacred Flame work?

It's so cool, so great, I want to Sacred Flame everyone... I love it. How to do it?
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>>170604903
>general fag thinks we want to be in his gay OP
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>>170604541
Hollow scales luck with ar too iirc. Plus two +10 hollow weapons provide +10 luck.

It's basically a 10 point cheaper refined build where you trade a small amount of ar for a decent boost in bleed/poison.

It's a lot of fun. I'd recommend a combination of winblades (or twin katanas) and a rotten weapon (spear works best imo), plus a crossbow.

Poison is just to fuck with the opponent though. It's probably better actually to just have a second bleed weapon or just some hollow caesti for the extra luck.

I had a lot of success with this in pvp, and i never bothered using rouge.
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>>170604990
no one's forcing you to join faggot
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>>170605085
>i can't read
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How's my Int build /dsg/? Been having some fun with it lately.
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Could someone post the DaS1 giant ass sliders? I thought I had it but I can't find it.
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>>170605017
Acquire proficiency
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>>170605221
Just experiment a bit. 1.7 for legs with -0.4 for waist is my fav
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>>170605137
>i'm a faggot
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>>170605207
I like it but the mask clashes imo
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>>170605478
Great talk, take the projector with you on your way out.
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>>170605207
replace havels ring with sage ring you twat

also 60 int or bust if you're gonna be at duelmeta
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>>170605207
>>170605537

In addition you have a gap between your gauntlets and your armour. I'd consider swapping for some longer, lighter hand pieces, hopefully giving you enough free weight to lose the FAP ring and swap it for Darkmoon so you can use more spells
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>>170605207
>17/18
Put a few points in vit if you need them and use sage+2 instead of Havel's. As a sorcerer you want 60 into, but the softcap for weapons is 40, so if you only use the spells as backup 50 is ok but otherwise you should be 60. Iirc magic clutch can boost mlgs damage quite a bit, if you use that mainly
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>>170605593
nice try but you're gayer than me fag
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>>170578962
It's not weird, it's actually all fixed, with the exception of the Forlorn, and even they have specific areas where they spawn.

But this is speaking strictly about NPC invaders and not people you thought were NPCs and were infact trolling you.
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>>170605769
clutch rings have reduced effect in pvp though and anyone at SL120 is clearly only in it for duels
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>>170605537
Really? I think it looks great with the Sunless chestpiece. What would you replace it with?

>>170605686
Can't, my shit's too heavy to get rid of FAP. Also I can't get to 60 Int without overlevelling or sacrificing Vig.

>>170605718
Yeah, I'm going to grab the FAP ring +1 and Havel's +1 and go for the Sunless Gauntlets instead. The gap is a nuisance.

>>170605769
17 and 18 are for other Int weapons. I also use the Crystal Sage Rapier, GSoJ and Crescent Moon Sword on this build. Also clutch rings don't work in PVP, only PVE.
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For an turbocunt demon spear+ flips build, is it better to opt for Leo, wolf or fap? Elemental damage doesn't benefit from counters, right?
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>>170605986
40 vig is more than enough
also you leveled vit like a faggot

that's 8 points

take 2 points from endurance and bam you have 60 int

and seriously sage ring +2 is mandatory for casting, ditch havels
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TRC livestream from PAX East, today at 4:00 PM EST.
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God DAMN Raime is fun.
God DAMN Raime is hard.
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Are Faith builds viable? I was looking into it and just saw that the Lothric Knight Sword gets S scaling in Lightning.

Do you think it's possible that the Angel beam attack in Ringed City will be available as a Miracle?
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>>170606545
Alonne would be ten times more enjoyable if his bonfire run was as good as Raime's.
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>>170606398
Wasn't the livestream next week ?
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Playing the DS2 DLC for the first time and I just got the eye. Any advice for fighting Aava?
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>>170606726
That's the Bamco stream. Today's stream is PAX East related.
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>>170606570
No, FAI is awful from the get-go in this game.

Maybe but it'll be shit if it is.
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>>170606815
Aava is a bit different from Sif or RRA in that hugging his taint is generally a bad idea. And if memory serves, his soulmass can be avoided by sprinting to the side.
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>>170606602
You mean nonexistent?
The bonefire for Raime is right around the corner and the 2(two) enemies between you and the door are big and intimidating but highly unlikely to cause any actual harm, you can even jog straight past them while they stand up if you don't want to waste durability killing them.
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>>170606602
Alonne would be ten times more enjoyable if he didn't just charge over and over again and actually did some fucking swordplay. Also if you could fight him before the very end of the game. Alonne has problems.
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>>170606940
No shit. A hard, fun boss gets a lot less fun and a lot more hard if you've gotta go through a chunk of level every death. I'm looking at you, Gundyr.
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>>170606927
Yeah, I figured that out pretty quickly. I still beat him, despite having my weapon break around the last 1/5 of his health.
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>>170606940
>>170607090
Nonexistant is preferable to what felt like Iron Passage in regards to enemy placement.
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>>170606030

I recommend suicide.

But if you really have to, you don't need poise, you should never ever be swinging at a time when you might get hit. Worst case scenario you should be toggling out of the first hit of everything. Flip spear is about flipping and poking when people can't hit you, not trading.
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>>170607090
I'm not saying you should run the entire level for failing but being plonked right back at the door after dying kind of defeats the point of a death run, it may as well be a regular checkpoint right at the door if you're not dealing with any actual level to get back to where you were, the majority of difficulty in these games comes from the level leading up to the boss, not the boss itself.
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>>170606570
If the make it a miracle it will do all the damage of a wet farm unless your opponent is standing next to you anyway.
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>>170607090
Especially when the true alonne fight is one of the hardest if not the hardest in the series
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>>170606570

I just want a good melee option other than raw Cr8 axe.
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>>170606398

>4PM

What's that in Europe time?

10PM?
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>>170606570
>I was looking into it and just saw that the Lothric Knight Sword gets S scaling in Lightning.

it's better to buff it with lightning blade than infuse it with lightning
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>>170607553
>Especially when the true alonne fight is one of the hardest if not the hardest in the series

Friede is way harder than alonne
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what in god's name were they thinking with the run up to sir alonne
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>try to summon help for boss fight
>NPC phantom does less than 100 damage per swing and dies in two hits
>summon person
>looks promising
>starts lagging unbelievably the second after we enter the bossfight
>loses all animations and does zero damage to the boss
>die
>check steam profile
>they're in China even though I have cross region play turned off
>summon another person
>no way they can be fucking Chinese
>again looks promising, big ass sword and doing emotes and shit
>enter boss room, suddenly lags and rubber bands like a fucktard
>spends the whole bossfight running into wall
>die

Fucking hell this is retarded
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>>170607492
Honestly I was goofing around the forest with a non pvp build and using the sks was superfun. I was wondering how to turn up the efficiency. Fap for more stamina, then?
>>170607785
S is not necessarily preferable, scaling depends on base damage
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>>170562159
wat armor
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>>170607497
>the majority of difficulty in these games comes from the level leading up to the boss, not the boss itself.
Depends on the boss, really. Someone like Fume or Freide is hard enough for the average player without a long death run.
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>>170607953
Ringed Knight set, from the DLC coming out at the end of the month.
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>>170607893
One of the worst areas in the franchise. Boring design, with ugly, repeating, textures and shit enemy placement. I admit I chuckled a bit when I saw fire salamanders there.
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>>170607848
True alonne meaning never getting hit
>>170607953
Next dlc
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>>170607998
>>170608050
Shit thanks senpaitachi looks dope.

Might reinstall and play both dlc's from ds3.
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>>170560550
I'm pretty sure she's just shit. I'm on regular NG now and she does maybe 80 damage per hit during bossfights.
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>>170607707
Yes, 10 PM Central Europe Time.
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>>170607919

Sure, or a Leo ring for some counter damage. Not sure how often you'll even get that but eh, try it out.
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>>170608021
This might be the only boss in the series that I'm not interested in beating. I'm not running this stupid gauntlet every time I feel like fighting him. I can't think of any other boss run that has just killed my interest in a boss. Such a damn shame.
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>>170607998
Is it confirmed that we get to use it?

I need that shit in my life
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>>170608362
Did you not see it linekd in the OP ?
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>>170608345
You can run through it fairly easily - when you get to his fog gate all the knights back off so you can heal up any incidental damage. It's not as bad as, say, iron passage.
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>>170607919
>S is not necessarily preferable, scaling depends on base damage

but that's what I said? lightning blade buff is better than infusing it with lightning
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>>170608362
Yes, it's in the OP.
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>>170608457

Sounds contradictory but I'm trying to avoid any major spoilers so not been delving too deep into the information that's available - I know there are enemies wearing that sick-ass shit but have no idea if it's going to drop from them / if it's found somewhere
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>>170608545
Fair enough.
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>>170608464
I'm trying to figure it out. After dropping down it seems I have barely enough time to heal before they drop after me, and dodging all the knights and arrows afterwards is hell. It is nice that they don't follow you to the fog though, although I learned the hard way that the archer has no problems shooting arrows down at you if you take too long. Little bastards, all of them. I'm not even done celebrating beating fume knight...
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>choking sounds
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>>170608050
>True alonne meaning never getting hit

that's only hard if you didn't level ADP
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>>170608687
What I usually do is hang a left before the alonne captain and kill the salamander. Took my limp-wristed hexer 5 hits, so it shouldn't be too tough. The knights will follow you up there, but I've never had them actually reach me, and it seems to buy you a couple seconds when you drop.

You still need to be pretty nimble with the archers afterward, though.
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>>170608542
I JUST WANT THE FUCKING BOAR HELM BACK

IS IT SO MUCH TO ASK FOR?
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>>170599675
>I've never tried summoning her for any bosses, is her damage fucked up during those fights too?
She is literally an unequivocal hindrance during boss fights.
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>trying to replay DaS1 on PS3
>get to undead parish and decide to invade to see if there's any online activity
>instant invasion
Oh wow!
>it's a havelmom twink
Holy shit. Why? I wonder if this guy just happened to be there at the time, or if he gets enough invaders to justify hanging out in this old game waiting for them.

I really wish I had gotten into PvP when this game was in it's prime. I didn't start playing until shortly before Dark Souls 2 came out.
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>>170608801
Yes. Souls 3 is super serious game with no silly headgear. Even the Xanthous crown has gotten smaller and smaller as the games went on.
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>>170608729
while I like the deserter set, I dont get why the thief starts with it and greirat wears it.

It's fucking chainmail

chainmail is the noisiest type of armor possible
no wonder he got gibbed in lothric castle
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>>170607497
Run length should and usually is inversely proportional to how hard the boss is.
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>>170608687
Just don't bother unless you really want the cool ranch sword. It's not worth it, even for a completionist.
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>>170608797
>>170608797
Nice, I noticed they died pretty quickly but I didn't think about it also wasting the knight's time trying to get you. I'll try this, thanks.
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>be SL80
>have 40 str
>have 40 end and 32 vig
>equip flynn ring
>be dragon
>use millwood battleaxe weapon art
>roar
>have 651 AR with minor stat investment
>not even using hypermode or swordring

this is fun
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CHALLENGE TIME:

All right, you want Dark Souls 3 to be harder? Without doing retarded shit like "No rolling" or "Be naked" or "Fists only"? Well, here's something for you:

The Brigand Twindaggers run.

Brigand Twindaggers have got to be the single worst non-joke weapon in the entire game. Low base damage, low scaling, weapon art is just a worse roll which costs FP... So, here are the rules:

1. You can pick any class you want.
2. You need to rush to Road of Sacrifices to get the Brigand Twindaggers. Yes, that means skipping the cursed rotten greatwood and most of the undead settlement to head straight there. You're allowed to go back afterwards, of course.
3. Once you have them, they are your only melee weapon.
4. No shield allowed. No parrying dagger either. You are dual wielding these fuckers ALL THE TIME. You're only allowed to put them away to use a bow or cast a spell.
5. As said, bows allowed.
6. Only buffing, debuffing and healing magic allowed.

Try it out. You'll gnaw your fucking arm off.
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>>170609082
Nevermind, I'm dumb, I was thinking of the other really, REALLY bad boss run in that DLC.
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>>170609082
Deep down I know this, but it would just leave a bad taste in my mouth to leave behind a boss that I often hear is one of the hardest in the series. I've never just had to give up before. I'll give it some more time.
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>>170608849
>boar helm
>silly

Say that to my face fucker not online see what happens.
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>>170608487
Meant to quote the guy you were quoting. I have the bad habit of doing that some times.
>>170608753
>leveling
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>>170609202
dude lmao I beat Friede while naked and using only the millwood bow, bitch has too many unstaggerable frames.

this is a babeh's challenge
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>>170609242
Alonne is the only challenge-area boss worth fighting. The run is mild compared to the others, and compared to his competition:
>lmao3npc
>i'm smelter but stronger
>lmao2cat
Actual effort was put into Alonne.
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>>170609293
>leveling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAw9hDo8fKg

there's a limit to how far you can move the goalpost faggot
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>>170609343
>lmao2cat

it didn't help that the area that preceeded them was complete cancer
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>>170609242
Well now I'm confused.

>>170609343
The boss so nice we used it thrice is worth it for the Loyce Greatsword alone.

>>170609202
I am not going to use a weapon with less AR than a broken straight sword and nothing you say will make me.
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>>170609475
You're aware that ALL daggers fit that description, right?

Brigand Twindaggers just happen to suck because they don't cause bleed, you can't parry while dual wielding them, they have less range if you try the dual wield attacks and they have worse scaling than most daggers.

Yet they're still better than the broken straight sword since that thing consumes as much stamina as a straight sword and is swung at the same speed.
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>>170609343
>blue smelter
>lmao2cat

B-team bosses. I swear, B-time is so fucking terrible you can always tell when any content was designed by them. B-team bonfires right next to each other, as an example. Or B-team textures (pic related).
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>fume knight
>sunlight spear with 50 faith and +10 lightning dragon chime and lightning clutch ring and hitting him right in the god damn face and
>187 damage
hooraaaaay.
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>>170606854
>new arenas
inc bridge map from DS2
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>>170609714
Just so you're aware, DS3 was also made by the b team.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.videogamer.com/amp/news/dark-souls-3-is-being-developed-by-a-different-team-to-bloodborne
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>>170609826
It better have the platforms in the lava.
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>>170609859
Well DS3 is better than 2 in my opinion, but inferior to 1 - no opinion on bloodborne, haven't played it.

B team learned from some mistakes but still isn't as good as the guys who made 1.
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>>170610143
Oh that's cool then, I agree with you. Sorry for the assumption, it's just that a lot of the time people take the b team meme to an extreme.
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>>170609181

How many R1s does it take to kill the average phantom? That's the important question.
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>>170590057
Fucking newfag
Try stacking ATT and lightning spells, go get the dragon chime and make it lightning +5, get all 3 great lightning spears and they try that and other LS
Faith went from being really good shit, to being mediocre, it took a massive nerf but it still feels better than the shit in 3
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I played DS2 on release but I never played the DLC/Sins of the thingy.
Is it worth pirating for a solo playthrough?
Is the multiplayer still alive enough to warrant buying the game?
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>>170611068
DLC is good. Scholar is debatable, since all it did was reshuffle enemy placements, add some new npc summons/invaders, and added one mediocre new boss and an alternate ending.
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>>170606854
PvP shit and guest star shitters, wow that's exactly what I like
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>>170611068
>>170611182
Oh, and the multiplayer is going through a bit of a revival due to a Reddit event, but that ends tomorrow according to the infographic.
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>>170609202
>bows allowed
>implying I'm not already doing a composite bow cheese with bosses all the time
get on my level
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>>170557420
>Maximum Soul Level of 125 allowed.
Alright so if we're melee are we discouraged from going to 125 or what? I see no reason why anyone would show up less than that
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>>170609629
>broken straight sword since that thing consumes as much stamina as a straight sword

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P1eKThZG-g

I wonder why
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>>170610528
As a matter of fact, I'm fairly sure that's exactly what I did. Wasn't impressed.
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>>170610290
depends on their vig, but the thing is at this level bracket a lot of people stick to 27vig and below because they're pressed for stats

I 3 shotted a host in full tarkus cosplay, hitting him for ~400 each hit

it is like swinging an ultra around at the speed of an axe after all.
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>>170611243
They will probably show some of the new weapons.
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>>170611854
Here's hoping, I just wanna see something interesting
Whatever happened to semi decent teaser trailers rather than press streams and e celeb reports
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>>170611585
I understand it is far from good, but you think it's worse than 3 in it's shambolic state?
They made all the ranged attacks fucking melee, their cost is still through the roof so you need ashen estus a lot, and now you cant stack both the spells and ATT to make the weaker ones worth it
Sunlight Spear is the only one worth it at all in 3, for a melee trading thing for when you dont want to just push r1
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Who's ready for the return of FUN?
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>>170612103
Give me FUCKING INVINCIBLE builds
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>>170612103
GET AFRO ON THE PHONE
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>>170612103
The funniest thing would be if that thing turned out to be fun and effective and then they nerf it into a state of utter worthlessness like the majority of other equipment in DS3.
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>>170612098
Let me put it like this Anon, Lightning Stake made quite a few boss battles a lot more fun and faster than they would otherwise had been had I just been using my morningstar with the appropriate buffs, and Gnawing was actually pretty damn good at keeping enemies I didn't want anywhere close to me at bay.

And while I really want to like the miracle system in 2, with the return of DeS-style herbs as spell recharges, there wasn't a single boss or level I can rightfully recall that made me go "I wonder if I can solo this boss or go through these enemies with my spells alone, that would be fun".

Also, what they did to Blinding Bolt was a crime against nature itself.
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>>170612167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DizbLCXyCc

66 strength at minimum
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>>170612346
n-no!
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>>170612346
DELET
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>>170589162
>which is why hornet and catacombs is popular
I've had the best luck 1v3 invading irithyll just before Pontiff. Now i'm SL 58 so I might've to stop.
Catacombs kinda sucked invasion wise desu.
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>>170612397
But that's it, for lightning you've got stake and sunlight spear for most every scenario, and sunlight spear is almost always just better since they all draw from the same source you might as well just go sunlight spears, or gnawing if you so desire
the other spears actually served a purpose in 2, and them actually being ranged relitivly fast projectiles made them useful, there's no reason to try and use lightning spear or greater lightning spear in 3 since it's a melee trade based skill, where you're wanna just be doing the most powerful hit you can before moving again
Don't get me wrong, FTH is always been and always will be my mains, and it's always been behind at least one of the other casting types, just a matter of how far behind, and it feels much more lacking in 3 due to how it works and how casting works
And yeah blinding bolt got it bad, FTH did take a massive blow from what it was in release 2 and it's no where near where it was
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tfw bitches come to your nest without trades
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>>170612103
That new Soulstuber would do a better job.
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>>170612103
Going to enjoy shieldbreaking niggas.
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>>170612453
Anon, I'm sorry.
Dual weapons don't get a strength bonus from 2handing
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>>170612928
Hence 'minimum'.
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>>170612928
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>>170612962
Why bother with 66, the only point is reaching 99 when 2handing S or at least high A scaling strength weapons. It's going to need 50 str and it's most likely you'd want to stay there rather than pushing 60, much less 66. Besides, you'll also need a ton of vitality if you're also using the dual GS alongside the doors. You ARE going to use the dual GS, right?
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>>170613154
We are thinking on the basest of planes. What we need is more Strength.
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>>170573387
I invaded a world in 3 with the host and two phantoms all similar to this that just phalanx'd me
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Post cheese strats.
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Here's hoping this magic rapier thing isn't ass.
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>>170613780
>have to hold l2 for the magical blade like friedes sycthe
It'll probably suck. Why you can't just tap l1 or l2 and have it permanently transformed till you switch weapons or run out of fp is beyond me.
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>>170613553
>similar to this
what fashion?
>>170613731
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So I started SotfS. I read something about miracles being good but also about them being nerfed. What's the final verdict on them? I did a Str/fth build in DS1 and was thinking if it's possible to do something similar in 2.
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>>170614182
of course it's possible. It will just take quite a while to take off
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>>170614182
Miracles are fine in DS2, you just can't expect to rely on the offensive ones as your main source of damage all the time post-nerf, though some of them are just outright useless too.
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DS3 killed heavy builds. they should have done it like Nioh: bound hyperarmor to the poise stat and make it activate instantly when you press the button, if only they worried baout the quality of their products...
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>>170614126
It was hard to tell behind their constantly raised shields, I saw sandles and faraam helmets though
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>>170614446
>bound hyperarmor to the poise
exactly what they did with AoA patch
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>>170614446
Yet they don't need to make quality products to sell, really makes you think, huh?
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>>170614182
They went from god tier to mediocre/poor
Just get a lot of ATT and FTH, infuse a lightning weapon and go for it, you can play a lot more like a caster, you just gotta grovel for those casts
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>>170614489
except i can stunlock a guy in full havels swinging my greathammer at the same time as he and wearing medium armor.
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>>170614508
yeah, the same thing happened when john romero announced daikatana, when they decided to write "from the creators of doom, quake and wolfenstein" on the box they knew it would make the money back
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>>170614548
Well, greathammers and hammers are really good at breaking poise.
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>>170614459
The sandals are easy, dtagonscale kilt or whatever its called. I'm interested in the chest
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>>170614548
Hyperarmour mainly comes from the weapon, not the armour
Also timing matters, there's a brief start-up window where if you hit an Ultra user you'll stun them
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>>170614863
Yeah, as I say it was hard to see past me getting raped and their shields
Some short sleeved things could just about work for the aesthetic, like deserter armor maybe if you have something like wrist wraps
Gundys legs could work too
Certainly not as simple to get that kind of look as it is in 2
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>>170614881
have you played ds1? where there was actually poise? you simply couldn't stun someone in full havels with the wolf's ring, now you can, making the armor useless and a waste of levels, they shouldn't even have bothered in adding heavy armor since it doesn't make difference. "but muh dmg reduction", yeah, try to have high vigor, vitality and strenght under the meta level. "but muh pve", everything is viable in pve so don't even try to argue.
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>>170615152
Yeah, and what was the best thing to do with poise? Equip heavy armor with a fast weapon since those weapons not only had better DPS, they had better poise damage per second, meaning they'd always win poise measuring contests.
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>>170615126
noice
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>>170615217
>not knowing how to parry and parry timing
fuck off casual
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>>170609714
>blue shitter demon
It took me way too long to realize he was magic and not blue fire.
Once I realized that, the fight took maybe 3 mins.
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>>170615291
>1h a ultra

Then I'd just backstab you.
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>>170615291
>that
>the point
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>>170615126
what the hell is going on with that monstrous damage
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>>170615152
Yeah i have, i didnt like it as much.
From a PvE standpoint i get the thing with poise, but with PvP it always felt off. People stacking that shit to the exact number they needed to poise cast sorceries, loincloth havelmoms
And of course fast weapon users(inb4 parry, i'm not talking about the spammers.)

Perhaps i'm a bit biased because by the time i played DS1 PvP all the people who legitimately wanted to have fun seemed to have left and i was left with the havel-loincloth fags
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>>170615364
>not knowing how to bait
>not waiting for them to attack first
>not carrying a parry tool (or just using your empty hand if poissible)

get good
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>>170615442
Counter damage maybe?
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>>170615442
not him but

weapon art does more damage and you can use leo ring with great arrows, it wouldn't have been that high if it wasn't a counter.
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>>170615460
of course ds1 had flaws, that's another thing they should have done like nioh: no hyperarmor while casting regardless of armor to disencourage "tank mages", only on physical attacks.
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>>170615664
Wich is why i like the decision to make HA based on weapon primarily, armour only adds to its strenght when its active(also damage reduction).
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>>170615460
and they don't need to be spammers, fromsoft should have made attack windups more clear and a little slower, well, just like ds2, but appearently the a-team doesn't like b-team's ideas on balancing.
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>Think DaS1 is the greatest game ever

witcher 1 is at 1.49 €
witcher 2 is at 2.89 €

should I get one guys ?
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>>170615765
how about making hyperarmor linked to both heavy armor and heavy weapons only? that would be great, but unfortuantely ds3 already came out and the "a-team" doesn't like to learn with it's mistakes like "b-team" did (well, tryed) with scholar of the first sin.

let's hope lord miyazaki is working on a demon's souls remake or a new souls-style ip and takes this decision.
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>>170615505
>>170615494
>>170615442

He is already poisoned, the damage counter stacks with that. He took about 470 damage from the hit.
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What bleed weapons are good for pvp/pve beside the twinblades and twin katanas?

Do the larger bleed weapons like the carthus greatsword and the spiked mace work? Does bleed even prod with larger weapons?
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>>170616110
Bardbed Straightsword

Larger weapons can work , but they're suboptimal for bleed with their speed. Unless you apply rouge and can land the full WA combo.
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>>170615952
for that i mean, hyperarmor as soon as the attack animation starts and only when wearing heavy armor and heavy weapons( ugs, greataxes,greathammers and lances) at the same time (no hyperarmor for non-heavy weapons on the offhand), of course.
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>>170616262
Instant HA brings the problem of people going "Oh my opponent is getting close, better press R1" and even if you dodge they'll pop an immediate second R1 with instant HA. So its not that simple a solution
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>>170616424
If a fast weapon r1s before the slow weapon, they can r1 and roll before their animation finishes
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>>170616424
that's why the animations should be slower and parries should not be instant, like the ds2 "parry prediction game".
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>>170616004
beautiful
please give me more
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>>170616467
not if the heavy weapon has a huge range, still heavy weapon users should always .
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>>170616467
Like i said, not that simple. Both situations have problems, trading one for the other isnt going to work.
Ideally there's a way to keep both balanced, but man can only dream.
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>>170616581
*should always bait attacks and attack before the opponet gets in range to attack safely.
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>>170616424
and then you dodge again for no stamina while the ultra user is at half stamina or less
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new thread when
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>>170616561

It's your lucky day my man. I have a shitload.
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>>170616227
Okay, thanks. I've been trying to use the crow talons but the range makes them hard to use. And the attacks are all so awkward. I'm actually stuck at the missionary hollow on the bridge before the second bonfire in the settlement. Normally i breeze through the settlement but holy shit. Do i just need to git gud? Or do the crow talons suck? The moveset seems like it should be amazing but.

I'll try the larger weapons for a while and when those inevitably turn out to be as bad as you say I'll probably switch to the twin blades or twin katanas. What a shame.

Hey is frozen weapon good at all? Would it be viable to buff the twinblades or twin katanas with it?
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>>170616867
>The emote at the end
Theres no killcam in dark souls, bud.
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>>170616656
for me the categories should be:
>heavy weapos: ugs, greathammers, greataxes, lances
>medium weapons: greatswords, halberds, maces and axes
>fast weapons: swords, cursved swords, rapiers, spears

also:
>light armor can't tank shit, but has faster stamina recovery and less stamina consumed when rolling.
>medium armor can tank light weapons and has medium stamina regen and stamina consumed when rolling.
>heavy armor can tank all but heavy weapons but has slow stamina regen and shit rolling.
>all weapons are parryable but heavy weapons can only be parried by medium shields.
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>>170616894
Crow talons are amazing but you need to time the combo well.
as for the big weapons, they're fine as weapons; just not that good at bleeding.

>Frozen weapon
Eh, frostbitten isnt that great in my opinion, compared to bleed that is(it'll still work fine)
Although i'm more of a fan of snap freeze for frost.
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>>170616929

That was for the stream/youtube vid
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Migrate

>>170617026
>>170617026
>>170617026
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>>170617043
Do you stream? I'd love to see some greatdickery live
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>>170617015
Thanks. I don't know. I'm really struggling with the crow talons.

Oh also, is there any reason to use the bleed infusion?

Apparently the bleed infusion adds the same amount to the bleed value on a weapon as carthus rouge does, plus 50 extra damage when you bleed something (less for weapons that don't already have bleed).

Does the poison infusion/resin buff do aything similar? Is there any difference in the amount of damage caused per tick or just the poison value on the weapon?
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>>170618180
The infusions just give weapons the innate status build-up while also decreasing the overall AR.
Resins are way better
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>>170599675
Yeah she still only does like 20 damage to bosses. Completely worthless

At least Eygon can stagger shit and tank hits. He'll carry you through DSA if you're bad because he can practically solo the boss himself. By comparison, Sirris is just ???
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>>170614518
Are hexes or pyro any good then? Or is faith the way to go even post-nerf?
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>>170615126
>roll spam and unpunishable estus

dark souls 3
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>>170617043
that reminds me of my time playing das2 and my attempt to get a youtube channel going www youtube.com/watch?v=craMN0pzhOg

both have passed, but the nostalgia...
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