/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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In just three weeks the first /dsg/ thread tourney is starting. On March 25th, 2pm PST a PC tournament will be held prior the release of The Ringed City DLC.
Participants will be matched up with others who sign-up and fight for the claim to be /dsg/'s champion. The winner and runner-ups will receive prizes including Steam games and being better than everyone else who fought.

Sign-up sheet is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdE5nW644n-uDkR2sLrJD--n4Nsynw2f9GP2BJOrNUBpgiBiw/viewform?usp=sf_link

For the sake of organization either your Steam ID or a Discord ID will be needed to sign-up. If using only one, Steam IDs will be organized via that messages there and Discord users can join the accompanying server in the link above to ensure we don't have last minute drop-outs with no explanation.

RULES:
-Maximum Soul Level of 125 allowed. Someone with CE open will be monitoring all players to make sure this rule and others aren't broken.
-The starting location will be High Wall, followed by Farron Keep bridge and ending at the Darkmoon Tomb.
-Fights are best of 3
-Each fight is 2 minutes long, the one with the most % health left at the end will win if both are alive.
-Gargoyle Flame Spear, Washing Pole, Throwing Knives, Anri's Straight Sword, Ethereal Oak Shield, Ancient Greatshield, and Fire Surge are banned.
-Only two Ashen Estus sips per fight, any more and your win will not count, initiating a rematch. Do this twice and you are disqualified
-All Regen items and spells are banned to disencentize passive shittery. This includes Sun Princess Ring, Blessed Weapon, Spells like Bountiful Sunlight, the weapons/shields mentioned above with innate regen and anything infused with Blessed.
-Normal FC rules still apply such as no healing items. Fight rotation will be determined once brackets are set.


Discord link: https://discord.gg/5PBsgsV

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>>170617043

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Will he show up in TRC?

will we be able to get his set?

>>170617026
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Nice OP idiot.

>>170617148
>fire surge banned
>gargoyle flame spear banned

why dont you just ban pyromancers while you're at it you faggots?

>>170617236
No one likes you pyros, shoo.

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I think I'm finally done with "DIE CIS SCUM". Now I just need to finish leveling her up.

>>170617236
>gfs is pyro weapon
when you can just get dark plow with lower reqs and comparable damage

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>>170617097
>>170617159

Only very rarely, when I feel like it. Last time I streamed DaSIII was about 3 months ago.

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Cute!!

>>170617159
How much fanmail have you gotten through doing this?

>>170617360
the dark plow doesn't have a lavagasm attack

also
>Implying it isn't a pyro weapon when it has D/D/D/D scaling
it's not like it's even the longest reaching weapon, witch's locks weaponart has more reach and that's in a big sweeping move.

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>>170617424
cute

>>170617653
>pyro build with gfs has less AR and invests into way more stats than a quality build using it while Onyx and Locks are actual pyro weapons

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>>170617538

Disappointingly, very little. Probably because the Recent Player feature on the PS4 was/is broken, so the only method you have to send someone a message is by remembering their name and manually searching for it.

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>>170617424
Faraam Knight is a true hero.

>>170617148
Is simple infusion alive?

>>170617778
Damage difference piles up since all you get from int/fth is fire damage.

>>170618143
>alive
Allowed*

>>170617778
>17 less AR
>wanting to ban weapons from casters who are already limited to very few decent weapons

>>170618189
27/40/20/20 is the best GFS.
Fire damage fucking sucks.

Reposting in the new thread.

>>170617015
Thanks. I don't know. I'm really struggling with the crow talons.

Oh also, is there any reason to use the bleed infusion?

Apparently the bleed infusion adds the same amount to the bleed value on a weapon as carthus rouge does, plus 50 extra damage when you bleed something (less for weapons that don't already have bleed).

Does the poison infusion/resin buff do aything similar? Is there any difference in the amount of damage caused per tick or just the poison value on the weapon?

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>>170617773
That's lewd anon, post cute!

Is the Carthus Bllodring worth the ring slot?

>frost buildup isn't affected by luck

what did memezaki mean by this?

>>170618402
I don't think From even remembers that the frost status is even in the game

>>170618391
>Is the Carthus Bllodring worth the ring slot?

>Raises number of i-frames from 12 (.4 sec) to 16 (.533 sec)

if you ever played high level DaS2 pvp you'd know that it is the gayest shit ever to fight someone with 16 iframes

you can literally roll into people r1 spamming a straightsword and not give a damn, equip kirks armor for maximum troll.

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>>170617026

CUTE

why did they remove the pyromancer class in ds2?

>>170618391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WScMl8AIbOk

the fact that isn't banned is a testament to the incompetence of this tournament

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...Well ok then.

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>>170618303
alright!

>>170618490
>>170618604
So what I'm getting from this is that it's really good, but I'm a cheap fuck if i use it?

>>170618847
pretty much, but hey if you feel like going full tryhard make sure you dont forget it.

Is not allowing buffing on special/unique weapons in DS1/DS3 really a necessary thing for balance purposes?

if a join a different covenant, do I lose my rank in the first covenant? What if I spent alot of humanity to get the rank? It'll all be wasted?

>>170618927
Hey hey, I'm not using a dark sword while wearing that particular armor set.

Okay then, I've already go the fap ring, what rings do you think i should have? What's essential or really good?

>>170618976
>from
>having any idea what they're doing

basically they just got scared and didn't want to repeat the buffing moonlight greatsword in 2 (pre-patch)

>>170619070
You lose half your current offerings in that covenant. So if you were at 30 humanity offered, it is cut down to 15.

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>>170618781
Cute!

>>170619070
You lose half each time you leave a particular covenant. So if you have 20 humanity in a covenant and leave, when you rejoin you'll have 10. I'm pretty sure.

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>>170619131

>>170619080
Life&Chloranthy
If you need equip load, Havels. Otherwise leave the 4th slot for utility(Leo, Sun Princess, Hornet )
Assuming you aren't caster of course

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>>170619080
>dark sword
>fallen knight set
>tryhard

oh you are like a little babeh who gets tryhard and shitter mixed up.

being actually good with the dark sword is harder than say, Gotthards or washing pole.
the reason dark sword gets a bad rap is because you see a lot of hosts who just r1 spam their way through the game with it and then they get BTFO the second it doesn't work.

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>>170619190

>>170619201
Thanks!

>>170619210
Interesting! I've never used the dark sword before, but I've heard the weapon art is really good, plus it's a strength biased ss. I might put it in the offhand of my next strength build.

>>170618143
>>170618221
yes it is

>>170619439
>but I've heard the weapon art is really good, plus it's a strength biased ss.

Stomp is only good against people who expect you to r1 spam, you will never hit anyone who's seen it before

also it's a quality sword, there are no strenght swords, the closest to you get is the millwood battleaxe, otherwise you have to stick to hammers, big hammers and big axes.

stomping into friede scythe combo is really satisfying though

>>170619654
>stick to hammers
Hammers are quality weapons, too

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>>170617181
Doubt and doubt.

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>mfw trying aldrich faithful for the first time at sl58
This is so much fun

>>170617181
If he doesn't, I'm going to kill myself

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>>170619710
>Hammers are quality weapons, too

>>170619654
i don't any hammer is except drang hammers and those get a pass because dual weapon

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>>170619370
>>170619190
>>170619131
>>170618781
Artorias, taller than you even when he is hunchback

He likely porked Ciaran.

pic related

>>170618235
>minus 80 physical damage
>get 65 fire damage
>with higher stat investment than quality
wooow, great caster weapon my man

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>>170619924

>>170620158
Holy fuck when will the sidemouth meme die?

>>170618604
>pre-nerf gotthards
Yeah man, let's ban dark sword, estoc and farron memesword because they were FOTM on release day.

>>170619924
Maybe he wasn't all in proportion and it was human sized. His greatsword was compensating for his lacking in other areas.

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>>170618847
>using a greatshield turtle build
>people unzip a curved sword
>I equip the bloodring
>mfw

>>170620184
Ciaran has a condition. Please don't make fun of her for it. She's very insecure about it.

>>170620289
>not following the conversation chain

the discussion was about carthus bloodring you turbo-faggot

>>170620184
sidemouth meme? what do you mean anon?

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>>170618872
Post more Setz stuff!

>>170619654
I could have sworn it had a str bias.

I've only ever seen one person do the wa of the dark sword (outside of youtube videos of course), and I'm pretty sure they did it by accident, as all they did was the opening r2 and then they went back to r1 spamming.

Some of the axes are good for offhand str weapons. Particularly the brigand's, man serpent's, and dragon slayer's. But i like the man serpent hatchet the best, slightly more range iirc.

>>170620423
>implying bloodring is any good without a weapon that can abuse it

>>170620423
it's not even that good

>>170619654
>Using stomp with Darksword
What a great way to get hit 3 times to deliver a single straight sword hit.
Brilliant design from the Dark Souls 3 team.

>>170620526
you do know that you take reduced damage during a stomp like perseverance right?

you do also know that the stomp hit will do 500+ damage on people right?

>>170620607
>Dark Sword Stomp hits
>500
No

>>170620607
>you do know that you take reduced damage during a stomp like perseverance right?
Not all stomps

>>170620708
and that's how we know you dont have the faintest clue about what you're talking about

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>>170620448

>>170620825
take dark sword
stomp
look at your stat screen
realize you're a retard

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I need advice from you guys. What should I make for my final DS3 build? So far I have:

>SL120 Quality build, first char I beat the game with
>SL120 Quality/Faith hybrid paladin
>SL120 Int build using MLGS
>SL42 dickass thief Catacombs invader
>SL37 stealth mage themed Cathedral cooper/invader
>SL120 Int/Fai pure caster
>SL120 Str/Pyro Demon Fist user
>SL37 Farron Keep coop build with 27 Str
>SL83 Dex user, endgame area invader

I feel like I should have one around 50-70, but I can't decide on a theme. I've been considering:

>Dex build with a weeaboo theme
>Dex/Luck bleed build
>Dex/Faith Londor swordsman with dark miracles
>Str/Fai Millwood wanderer focused on HP regen
>Frostbite themed build with Friede's Scythe and Snap Freeze

I know the last one would be borderline worthless in practicality, but I've ran a poison build before and I've noticed hosts tend to play a lot more passive when they have a bar filling up, even if it's harmless.

What do you guys think I should do? Any suggestions? Also pic related is my build lineup so far.

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>>170620873

>>170620849
I refuse to believe a weapon with 430 AR refined in a 40\40 build is going to hit a player for 500+ damage with a charge R2 stomp.
And if I'm wrong its still fucking useless because you're going to lose that trade every single fucking time to 3 straight sword, greatsword or ultra hits. Stomp on a straight sword class weapon is fucking stupid because it cant launch.

>>170621115
It's actually better, the launches and pancakes are useless and only look cool. Dark sword can combo stomp into r1.

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IS THERE A FUCKING CE OPTION THAT DOESN'T LET INVADERS HIT YOU?

>>170621172
>forcing someone to roll recover after a launch and breaking their attack chain is useless.
>Dark sword is good
What sort of fresh hell have I entered.

>>170621197
yeah, infinite i-frames

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>>170621018

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>>170621323
The only other Setz comics I have are BB-related.

>>170620996
Dual Morion blade with Red tear stone and Blood Ring.

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>TRC stream later today
>know that i won't have enough willpower to not watch it
>decided to wait for pc version of nier automata so i don't have anything to divert my attention
fuck my life

>>170617043
that reminds me of my time playing das2 and my attempt to get a youtube channel going https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=craMN0pzhOg

both have passed, but the nostalgia...

>>170621460
Isn't it at the 15th?

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>>170621367
Based Gehrman

>>170621197
Yeah you can alter the number of I-frames rolling gives you, I see lots of people who gank invaders doing it.

>>170621540
That too, but there's going to be one today at PAX East or something.

>>170621115
you take 60% less damage while stomping
while 2-handing the dark sword has nearly 460 AR (and you will always be 2 handing if you're stomping)
and it does do 500+ damage, but again as I said in the first post it will only hit people who are stupid enough to stay in your face and/or are shit at rolling

>>170621367
It's okay, I love Bloodborne.

>>170621460
What are they showing in it?

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>>170621604
>>170621721

>>170621296
>>170621605
This guy was literally just standing still though.
And I just ran into another one, just stands there after I kill their phantom.
Fucking subhuman faggots.

>>170621721
>What are they showing in it?

Probably the area up until the demon prince boss. Also weapons

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Redpill me on longswords in DS1.

Gonna go pyro and chaos upgrade so I'll have stats to spare. Hell I may as well add dark bead and pursuers as well for maximum fun.

>>170621197
>>170621840

It might have been a de-sync thing. Basically you were just floating around doing nothing on his screen.

>>170617386
rate my dark souls 2 greatbow dickery >>170621507

I just went back to seath the second time and somehow he was still invincible. What's going on guys?

>>170621932
Maybe, usually you can still hurt people desyncing though.

>>170621985
You're not supposed to go back to him. You're supposed to find a way to get rid of his immortality.

>>170620996
I just realized the Soul Greatsword is an illusory copy of the MLGS.

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>>170621923
Anyone?

>>170622017
Yeah, most of the time, but that is usually when host is floating around. Basically he takes damage when you hit his t-posing character. The one floating around can't deal damage most of the time.

You also have the issue with invisible players. In that case it's basically 50/50 if the invisible player can damage you.

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Aesthetically this might be my favourite area in 2
Actual functioning level design aside, what areas do you you enjoy /dsg/?

>>170622212
It looks more like a lothric knight greatsword

>>170622309
Undead Burg, Anor Londo in DS1, Lost Bastille.

>>170620996
i'd enjoy lower-level pvp more if i could actually upgrade my weapons

what weapons does your sl83 endgame dex use?

>>170621923
silver knight longsword >nigger side sword

>>170622528
I usually go for weapons on the heavier end. Hollowslayer, Farron GS, that sort of thing. My go to is the Old Wolf Curved Sword, that thing is a beast.

>>170621449
IDK, I've never been much for hypermode builds and the Morion Blade seems like a pretty boring weapon apart from its special ability.

>>170622516
Yeah I was gonna mention burg and anor londo from 1, they both give me a feeling that no other area has made me feel

>>170622690
any luck using crow quills?

>nothing but gimmick enemies
>only 3 areas all designed around unfun hide and seek gameplay
>only 3 bosses, one of which is an npc fight and the other completely optional

>filianore just unlocks the abyss dragon fight, doesn't even have dialogue

>tons of incredibly flashy weapons that are completely worthless thanks to split damage and gimmick WA

>serpent npc doesnt even say anything of value, literally just tells you how to find the final boss

First firekeeper is LITERALLY just an npc fight, and her supposedly series ending "stole the flame of man" lore is underwhelming for what is supposed to be a final boss.

>giving the soul to the painter literally just gets you a dark miracle

Not fucking worth it guys 5/10 DLC, go play bloodborne or something

>>170622749
Burg is amazing because you go from basically permanently hiding behind your shield and slowly battling your way to the bonfires, exploring all the side paths and dreading getting lost to sprinting through and obliterating everything you see.

>>170622259
Guess so.
And is it just me or is profaned greatsword really good? It outperforms my +5 quality claymore at +2, I figured it'd be closer at +3.

>>170622773
Yeah, I've used them a bit, but to be honest they're pretty boring. They're good, but none of the unique properties about them are what makes them good, if that makes sense. They're only used often because of their scaling. The WA is a fun way to finish off enemies though.

>>170622662
The way the silver knight sword scales is weird, it very clearly is one of the heaviest striking straight swords in the game, with the R2's actually having a minor screen shake effect, you'd think it would be strength oriented in some way yet it's pretty much a shitty dex oriented weapon with bad scaling.

>>170622091
okay

>>170622926
oh, ok

>>170622309
Undead Burg&Parish, Highwall of Lothric(albeit a bit less)
Eleum Loyce
Ariandel

>>170622810
Thanks for time travelling from the future and letting us know, faggot.

>>170622810
Sure thing senpai.

>>170623092
>>170623134

It comes out in 2 weeks retards

>>170622091
well I've been walking all over and can't find anything. But when I go to seath, he has this ice ledge so I can't hit him with my sword

>>170622948
didn't someone say that the balder is only getting stronger at 40/40 scaling?
i'm not sure so feel free to call me a fag.

That's the Bamco stream. There's a 30 minute TRC Pax East stream today at 4:00 pm EST.

>>170621985
Talk to Logan. He'll tell you everything you need to know.

>>170623201
Keep looking around, you'll eventually find a path to the next area. Do not go up to Seath.

>>170623185
Which of course mean some random /dsg/ poster already played through it completely.

>>170622810
Take this shit to /v/. Maybe you'll be more successful there.

>>170622309
this was a huge dissapointment like drangleic castle for me.
they look so big and feel empty.

>>170623256
Shit, meant for>>170621540

>>170623321
Cuck

>>170623209
The balder and sks are nearly identical in AR assuming you're investing in dex, even at 40/40. Even at 99/99 str/dex the difference in AR between them is only 16, with the balder coming out on top.

>>170623495
The fort itself was disappointing even though I like the design, the map
However I loved scaling my way through that area with wyverns flying above

>>170622309
Ash Lake, Lost Izalith, and goddamned Dragon Memories

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>You will never marry a giantess skellington

why even live?

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>>170624298
She'll eat your soul and crush your hollow body with her thighs, sounds like a bad deal desu.

>>170623639
then why do people love the balder and not the sks? sks has bigger range right?

>>170623714
it looked really nice, agrred. And i was hyped as fuck the first time walking the bridge, but the "castle" is just a bigger archway to the dragon.
fuck from for that.

>>170624298
Nashandra looks like someone tried too hard to make a female version of Nito but didn't quite know how to go around doing that.

Her living ballgown bothers my autism immensely.

>>170624439
The sks isn't really a good weapon, it has no thrusting attacks and doesn't really have anything nice going for it besides looks.

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>>170624446
I think you mean she looks like H.R.Gigers wet dream

her design definitely tops Nito's 'lol I'm a big pile of skellingtons in a blob of black cloth design

>>170624446
Honestly her design is just weird and edgy. I mean the other shards of Manus at least look like women. Unless they all have a gross combat form.

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>>170624431
It's okay I'll just wear the hollowskin mask and be basically immune to curse.

considering she's secretly a skellington she might even be into it.

>>170624446
I'm far more bothered by her lack of neck, really.

Elana got it right on how to make a female boss look evil and alluring.

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>>170624446
does it bother you more or less after you realize she has tiny cute feet underneath the gown?

pygmies are manlets and midgets

>>170622810
Sauce?

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>>170624719
>elana
>alluring
>>170624926
And the sky is blue.

>>170625017
I mean you can at least see that she used to look hot before standing around for hundreds of years in Sinh's poison.

>>170624926
Still taller than the Ashen one.

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Dragon build bros.

What do you want TRC to have for us?

Praying for
>Dragon ultra greatsword
>Dragonbone tailwhip

>>170625085
I'd fuck a skellington over a rotten corpse tbqhfam

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>>170625017
>>170625085
What the hell is even Elana doing there anyway? We know what Nadalia and Alsanna were trying to do, but what was Elana trying to achieve, if anything?

>>170624926
Depends on the amount of souls they have collected. Vendrick too is a human afterall.

>>170625246
If I remember the item descriptions correctly she is leeching off the power of Sinh very very slowly so one day she can unleash that power on the above ground world.
Or something.

GreiratsBrother.
If you're in here, I just want to say that you're a glorious bastard.

>>170622810
Don't listen to this gay.

Well, there's actually an npc boss-fight, but not literally and all the other things are bullshit.

DLC is okay but short (again).

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>>170625235
Dragon wing stone
a weapon that gets a unique moveset when used in dragonform ala beastclaws/kos parasite
a ring that makes you not count as naked when in dragonform

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TRC at 4:00 PM EST on twitch tv/twitch

>>170625397
>there's actually an npc boss-fight, but not literally
What

>>170625397
Why should we listen to you instead?

>>170625397
Tell us more. You can say you know from playing it at PAX.

>>170620996
low level hypermode caster with crystal soul spear and invis ring

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>>170599578
>>what is a stuffed bra

>>170625498
Im not from English-speaking country and English isn't even my second language sry :)

I mean he wrote "LITERALLY just an npc fight" and I'm saying that that's it but without "LITERALLY". Well, nvm, Im retarded.

>>170625397
Don't listen to this gay, either.
This DLC is garbage. There ARE four bosses, yes, but only Demon Prince is even remotely difficult. The rest are all piss-easy and your "reward" for completing it is just a short video of Miyazaki saying "did you like it".

>>170625472
They'll show shit up to Demon Prince, right ?

>>170624989
his giant ass

>>170625861
Some Bamco rep will be playing, probably won't even make it that far.

>>170625861
they better show the desert sorceress set

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>>170625645
what is japans deal with drawing women and calling them guys?

>>170626332
I think the desert sorc invader is in the dreg heap, so before the demon prince. That said to get her set you have to buy it from the shrine maiden, killing her just gives you that pyro fan pyromancy that is simliar to flash sword.

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>>170626432
is she still hot?

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>>170626563
The hottest

>>170626432
>they brought back desert sluts but not best husbando thomas
fuck you miyazaki

>>170624571
This is why you never skip leg day

>>170626614
we better get that much cleavage when wearing it, regardless of gender.

>>170626614

That's not how nipples work.

>>170626634
You never know

Maybe the lord of the ringed city hired a certain pyromaniac to serve as his court jester

>>170626395
Gwyndolin is supposed to be creepy and androgynous.

But to answer your question: it's because asians arr rook arike, even the men and women. Even they can't tell the difference.

>>170624571
He looks like a skeletal version of that regenerating fucker from Dead Space.

>>170626805
The nipples are actually exposed, just hidden by illusion magic.

>>170625235
>Dragons using weapons
How about dragon wings or tail that give new attack animations in place of kick

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Why are Artorias' legs so fucking tiny?

>>170627491
Because he's a bitch and the corruption of the abyss saps away your gains

>>170617148

Has a tourney ever been run before? Was it filled with meta builds?

>>170627491
I bet he can't even diddylift lmao1pl8

>>170622309
Irithyll always causes my head to spin when i exit the catacombs.
It's probably the most beautiful area in entire franchise and almost as awe-inspiring as Ash Lake.

>>170627705
The first vista is pretty damn great yeah

>invade
>host + 2 suns
>none of them take damage
I don't get it.

>>170617148
>2 minute long fight instead of to-the-death
>I don't like these weapons so they're banned
(Why? Because they counter your darksword r1 build?)
>Throwing knives, Oak Shield, Fire Surge banned
[Sarcasm]: Toppest kek. Everyone knows how OP those are.
>Giving a crap about ashen estus in a duel
>Banning passive regen, which is total shit in this game anyways
>Banning blessed weapons, when almost everyone enchants their offhand parry tool with blessed for lack of an alternative
>Using cheat engine

If you wanted to ensure everyone was at most level 125 without using banned third party software, you could have the host be level 105.

>>170617148
What's with these faggy rules

>>170627980
>Hacking to make yourself invincible
>Still need 2 friends to carry you
>Your 2 friends also need to hack
Kind of funny, but sad.

>>170627705
Ash lake is to this day so fucking confusing to me, where the fuck even is that place?

>>170627980
whats life on the moon like?

>>170628290
>>170627980
>Your 2 friends also need to hack

It's more likely that it was a desync.

>>170628261
it's because it's a discord event not a /dsg/ event

>>170628318
>where the fuck even is that place
archtrees are the pillars supporting the outer world
ash lake is deep inside whatever planet or plane of existence soulsverse takes place

>>170628494
Discord was a mistake

>>170627705
I love how the Abyss Watchers built an entire fortress, and constructed a secret doorway to protect one entrance into the catacombs....

and the other entrance just opens up to the main road into Irithyll.

>>170628598
I don't see you making better events.

>>170628646
DSG official event:

Take off passwords
Go out into any zone in the game
Use Red Eye Orb
Not be a fag

>>170628610
to be fair the second gate cannot be opened unless you deal with Wolnir
the rest is first flame fuckery that moved places around, for example there's visible road leading out of Irithyll, only completely destroyed because of landscape shifts

>>170627491

Because he's mostly skeletal, all that's left is the shinbone and the shin guards are totally rotted away.

>>170628732
>DSG

You already failed your last rule

>>170628732
I like it!
When are we doing this?

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>>170628848
>Because he's mostly skeletal
skeletons aren't real

>>170628889
Tomorrow

Dragon Barracks only

>>170628821
I kinda wish we could see an actual pre endtimes map of the world before all the land shifted and displaced.
I mean are all the locations even from the same fucking era?

>>170628949
I can't tomorrow, can I do it today?

Also I just started NG+ and don't feel like doing early dancer so I'd rather do it in catacombs.

>>170628821
A theory I heard that I like, is that the archtrees were the columns that supported the world. The gods burnt them down because there were dragons hiding out there, so the world began collapsing without supports.

>>170629083
DRAGON BARRACKS INVASIONS ONLY

>>170629004
the whole game takes place in 3 different timelines and i'm not even sure we're warping to Firelink in the same timeline as we spend most of the game in

>>170629083
>>170628949
Why not do Aldrich Faithful or Watchdog of Farron at a certain level range?

That way /dsg/ers can actually do co-op invasions if they get lucky.

>>170628949
>Go out into any zone in the game
>Dragon Barracks only
Make up your mind

>>170629213
I feel like the Undead Settlement, Lothric Castle, Road of Sacrifices and Cathedral of the Deep are all part of the same rough location and timeline.
But shit gets strange when we go to Farron Keep, Catacombs and then Irithyl. I'm not sure Crucifixion Woods and Farron Keep swamp is in the right location, plus it would mean the Abyss Watchers had been gone a LONG time compared to the Lothric Kingdom. Their keep long gone and all of the Watchers interred in the mausoleum.

>>170629370
Those are two different people.

I think. It could all be one person named Anonymous.

>>170629446
That was me, yeah, sorry.

>>170629423
Teehee, time is convoluted. The world is churning, converging at Lothric castle.

I don't think there's really any making sense of it. It just goes by feel.

But on that note, why are all the places converging around Lothric Castle? Why do the Pilgrims journey to the Castle to die, then turn into butterflies and ascend above it? What's so special about Lothric Castle?

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What kind of fun are we gonna have?

>>170628942

But How Can Dark Souls Be Real If Our Skeletons Aren't Real

>>170629647
Because Prince Lothric was supposed to link the flame, everything was sort of crunching around Lothric Castle because it was the focal point.
The Pilgrims were exiled from Londor for clearly changing their "faith" and making a pilgrimage to Lothric Castle which seems to have a problem with Angels and Tree Hollows, maybe related with Sully.

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>>170629774
The completely wholesome, educational and pure kind of fun.

>>170629774
We're gonna play Hide and Seek, and you'll be it.

>>170628261
which one hurt your feelings?

>>170629774
Jesus fucking christ. Why is everyone in das3 so fucking ugly.

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>Artorias Helm without that shitty plume never

>>170631064
Not him, but all your rules are faggy desu

-Arbitrary and super-short time limit
-Banning weapons, spells and items arbitrarily other than estus
-Etc.

Also, why the hell are you so afraid of passive regen items when the time limit is so short?

>>170631843
I can't think of a single character in any of the Dark souls games that actually used the player model and had a decent looking face, especially female characters.

>>170631907
but that's the best part of it

>>170629647

Well, the First Flame is supposedly under Lothric.

>>170629815
Tree hollows? Like the ones in the undead settlement? Why are they like that?

>>170631945
Jeez miyazaki. Come on.

>>170631907
That's the least of the issues with that nasty helm and dispropotioned armor.

>>170631843

Because From doesn't have the slightest clue how to make attractive people.

>>170632060

There's nothing disproportionate about the armor.

>>170631998
Why do you say that?

>>170631941
>2 minutes
>short
Arena duels are 3 minutes and they can feel like eternity when 2 guys are just staring at each other.

>>170632137
Everything about it is disproportionate, it was made for an entirely different race and just looks ridiculous on the player character.

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>>170631997
Would've liked it more if they added a metallic part (don't know what it's called) instead of the plume, like Penetrator's helm.

>>170632210

Well, based of the location of the First Flame in the future and the location of Lothric in the present.

Is Wolnir's sword the shittiest weapon in the game?

>>170632257

What about it is off?

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>Dreg's Heap
>dregs heap at you

what did titicaca mitsubishi mean by this?

>>170632917
After the buff it's actually pretty good.
Not the best GS, mind you, but on a str/fth build it's comparable in performance to the quality greatswords while allowing you to access miracles

The problem is more than miracles are shit. Wolnir's itself is fine.

>>170632917

No, it's a great greatsword actually. Second longest greatsword range on par with Wolf Knight. Its AR is slightly worse than a Claymore's at optimal stats and the R2s/WA are awful but as an R1 machine which greatswords work best at it's a good option.

>>170632975
-Helmet sits higher than the player model head, far more slender than the player head (like silver/black knight helmets)
-Chestpiece elongates player torso, slenderizes it like the head, though it is slightly less noticeable
-Arms/legs become twigs

I think some of these were actually adjusted with the DS3 version of the armor though. In DS1 at least it is pretty successful at turning the player into a sort of decent downscaled look-alike of the Artorias you fight, but with the janky player animations it doesn't come out that well.

>>170632257
Wait hold on different race? I've never played the das1 dlc, is that part of it? Is Artorias not human?

>>170632861
Ahh, good thinking anon.

Convince me to use anything except rapier/mace.
Obviously talking about DS2.

>>170633941
L***f*r uses craftsman's hammer/estoc. That good enough?

>tag team with a single friend after pontiff
>dried finger
>have a fuckhuge battle royale against 2 reds and 3 aldritch faithful who each get replaced like 30 seconds after they die while trying to progress

This is the most fun I've ever had in dark souls.

>>170633941
>not power-stancing UGS's for maximum fun
>not power-stancing OrmaReeve's

TRC stream in 3 hours.

>>170628732
>Not be a fag

not even a little bit? I'm gonna have a hard time complying with these rules man

http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/1236/?

This is pretty cool

>>170635095

That's the PAX one, right?

>>170635410
Yes.

Where I can get a Collectors Edition of sotfs now that the CE forum is completely shut? I swore I had a table on my computer but I can't find it.

>>170635862
https://mega.nz/#!DZswmY6a!llvcxQ95V6UW5zCN5CNdlwbUSy6vYq99vr46htpsxUs

>>170636152
thanks

>>170631843
She is from Carim

>>170635862
Speaking of which, does anybody know why everything have been removed from CE forums ?

>>170636406
The people that make CE were hit with a lawsuit from Zenimax and then their site was nuked and DDOS'd for a while as well, or at least that's part of what I heard about it all.

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>>170618573

>>170632137
Have you looked at the ankles ever?

>>170634664
Shit both of those are still on my soulsbourne to do list.

Hey is it safe to ce in items in das2? Is the process the same? Drop an item and use ce to change it into the item you want? Just for the OrmaReeve's.

>>170636530
Wow that's crazy. Any info on what the lawsuit was about? I mean, ce probably breaks plenty of user agreements but is that enough to get the owners sued? Especially since they only provide the basic tools, independent users make the tables, and then people who probably aren't friends or collegues of the table makers and ce owners use said tables. There's like 3 layers of abstraction thst say the owners of ce can't be blamed.

>>170637307
No idea on the details of it, but considering how lawsuit-happy a megakike company like zenimax is, it's probably for some completely bullshit reason, could've already been thrown out by now already.

>>170637307

It's pretty safe. I added a Blue Dagger to my sorc character's inventory right when I started the game a while ago and have yet to be banned.

>>170637468
Hope so.

>>170637516
Thanks. Wait isn't there some kind of ant-anti-cheat thing for das2? Could have sworn i heard that mentioned once but I only ever 'bought' the das3 collectors edition.

>>170637874
DS2 has a very cryptic and unexplained system for softbans. The only way to fully confirm if you're banned is to directly contact namco support and have them confirm it directly.

Really though it seems like you'll probably avoid any issues as long as you don't do anything crazy, stay offline while using CE and don't ever directly modify your stats/souls/soul memory. Plus if possibly getting banned is a big deal for you, don't risk using CE at all.

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Thanks for ruining my character, game.

>>170637874

There is, so there's some stuff you can't mess with without being banned (Don't remember the specifics.), but I find that item swapping is safe.

If you want to be extra careful, just swap in pre-Shrine items until you defeat the four lord souls or whatever they're called. Then you can swap in DLC shit and post-Shrine items freely since the game known that you have access to them.

Game's pretty old though so I doubt they'll ban you for doing small shit like that anyway.

>>170638306
>>170638247
Thanks!

Does anyone have any fun build ideas for DaS3? Preferably invasion oriented.

>>170633941
>What is Red Iron Twinblade
>Key to the embedded for speedruns
>Not using a versatile weapon like the claymore; with reach, speed and horizontal attacks, to kill the non boss enemies

>>170617026
I've just started as a cleric on souls 2. I've never been a cleric before on any of these games. Do most people use a weapon at the same time I'm guessing? a cleric with a sword sounds good to me. Is there anything i need to know when it comes to being a cleric?

>>170639825
Get the binoculars to snipe enemies with lightining spears

>>170639825
As a cleric you start with one of the most powerful early game weapons in DS2, stick with that mace and upgrade it.

>>170620996
I just did a 120 Pure STR/VIT/END/VIG build
It's actually really good for ng+, I used a +5 vordt and +5 Smough hammer in each hand.

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Honestly I just want the fluted armor again. The drakeblood takes some influence from it, but I want the duck-beak helmet

>>170639825 clerics are the battlemages of souls games, faith doesnt require a significant stat investment to be effective, only need 30 if you want lightning blade, since most damage miracles are a meme and the bread and butter of faith is the healing miracles.

Basically 20 fai for most stuff, 30 if you want lightning blade, then go full plate

>>170639920
wanker

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>>170640494
>duck beak
I mean bill, I'm an idiort

>>170639825
Expect it to suck until mid to late game, since Lightning Spear has been nerfed into the ground and the better offensive Miracles are obtained very late.

Defensive Miracles can be okay. Caressing Tears is good in Harvest Valley/Earthen Peak, Homeward is good all-around. The heals can make the early game slightly more tolerable.

You can farm Heide Knights for their shit, since their weapons deal Lightning damage. Infuse with Boltstone and then buff with Sunlight Blade.

>>170639825
>s there anything i need to know when it comes to being a cleric?

Don't.

>>170639825
Cleric in DS2 was nerfed into oblivion
Use a mace though. It's good enough to carry you through the entire name, especially if you use two

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>>170640973
No real reason to use two anymore. Just two hand the Craftsman hammer when you need a little extra oomph.

>>170638278
Dang, with the blood everywhere you almost look like an hunter.

>>170641150
Can you get two on your first playthrough?
I know the shrek blacksmith gives you one, but how do you obtain the second?

>>170641229
>>170640973
>just two hand
I lack reading comprehension

>>170641357
Get four hands, then you can two-hand two of them

What should one generally do before proceeding to NG+ in DaS3? I've bought out just about everything from the handmaid, got Yuria's stuff and killed Yorshka for the chime. I'm also starting to stock up on things only purchase-able via late-game ashes, like Chunks, Twinkling and Scales, as well as various crossbow and greatbow ammo.

Beyond that, I'm pretty sure I've picked up all obtainable pieces of loot throughout the game.

>>170641512
There's nothing to do besides collect important stuff like all the slabs available in the playthrough and buy any consumables that won't be available right away on your next game cycle.

>>170641512
Don't worry about trying to get max estus/bonfire. you can easily do that in ng+. Honestly If I were you I would just wait to stock up on chunks/twinklies/scales, because you get a crapload of souls

>>170641512
focus on getting slabs, you can get rings from previous ng in ng+ and beyond, other than that there's not much to add to your list

>>170618976
DaS1/3 have retarded defence and buff formulas, so yes.
In DaS2 it was percentage based so almost everything was buffable.

>beat guy twice in the duel arena, he leaves to his world before his death animation plays
>On the third time I decide to use a new weapon, but he beats me
>Messages me about getting gud and shit

Why does profaned flame do absolutely no damage? And I mean that literally. It consistently does not damage what it hits.

>>170641990
Record it and post it on reddit. That's probably where he's from.

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How to DEX PvP build?
I've been using Sharp Ushigatana and feels like it deals no damage while everything else takes 1/4 of my HP in one hit.

>>170642326
Sharp Crow quills was fun

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>>170642326
Nice waifu. Heard she pleases old men for money

>>170641648
>>170641668
I'm 99% sure I have all eleven Slabs, I'll have to check. Otherwise, I'm more concerned about which NPCs to kill for their shit, where applicable.

But it sounds like I'm ready to move on, all things considered. I guess starting NG+ at SL70 should be fine, but I'm not sure what the stopping point should be at the end of NG+.

>>170643037
What kind of build are you going into ng+ with?

>>170626395
they designed 'her' before they came up with the story around 'her'. 'her' original concept was actually female

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>>170617148
>guy on the right has a washing pole
>washing pole is banned

>>170641150
>mom, I posted it again

>>170643723
Have a citation on that? Her original concept.

>>170621323
hot
Is there a chance i'm getting the Firekeeper mask in the DLC so i don't have to rely on Karlas hat?

>>170643787
>sperg
>using anything else than meme pole

I'm currently attempted a powerstanced dagger run of das2, and I want to infuse one with poison and one with bleed?
Which daggers should I use? Currently using just 2 ordinary daggers, thinking of using the bent blade and bandit knife, but bent blade has shite base damage and can't be infused, and bandit knife scales with STR for some fucking stupid reason.
Any other daggers I should consider? I'm also going to be running robflynn.

>>170617148
>Gargoyle Flame Spear
Is this weapon OP in PVP? never used it or have seen it so far.

>>170645135
High damage, good reach and godlike WA.

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Holy fucking shit, Bed of Chaos is a god awful fucking boss, it's not fun.

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Is Magerold the dragon or are you offering the scales to the egg that you give him?

What is a solid faith weapon in ds2 (non-sotfs edition)? Either something with innate lightning damage, something that scales well with lightning infusion and/or works well with sunlight blade?

>>170644120
DaS2 Babbies still get triggered by this? Talk about thin skinned.

>>170617148
Why is Estoc and CCS not banned then?

>>170645490
Nothing in BB or the entire souls series is hard once you've played through a single one of these games.
I don't know what you're trying to imply besides reenacting that mspaint comic with the line of faggots saying X boss was actually easy.

>>170640664
there was gonna be a spiritual successor to it, but it was cut
look up burial knight armor

>mad dogging it in the forest
>invade into an absolute shitshow
>whites, golds, reds, blues, watchdogs
>crabs going nuts on everyone and everything
>host is nowhere to be seen
>after a little bit, "Mad Phantom Holy Knight Hodrick has been summoned!"
>the absolute madman
>sprint to bonfire in time to see Hodrick land a 1600 damage riposte on the host
>spam "VERY GOOD" as I disappear

>>170639825
Cleric best class.
Decide early if you wanna go strength or dex and faith, or just pure faith. Both are good. If going pure faith, farm the shit out of Heide knights for their sword. It'll take awhile, but they're easy to parry, weak to your mace, get stunned with the two-handed r2, and their armor looks kickass with your robes anyway. Once you get it, infuse it lightning ASAP and it'll serve you well throughout the entire game.
Many people look at the nerfed lightning spears and assume miracles suck now. They don't. Emit force is available from Targray and in Wharf, and it's really good. Big projectile, aoe, fairly quick cast, decent chunk of casts, about as strong as a great lightning spear post-nerf. Use it, abuse it, love it. Heavenly thunder is FANTASTIC, both going through the game and pvp, and does huge damage with pure faith. Sometimes whiffs though. Never forget that you've got Force, which is very good in certain situations.
Notable early game goals are joining up with Targray for his miracles and infinite boltstones, the priest chime past ruin sentinels, sunbros for their ring and eventual sunlight spear, bottom of the pit for great heal, shaded woods/gutter/sinner's rise for dragonslayer axe/heide lance/heide spear if you want to use a different weapon. Later goal should be the lightning clutch ring in shulva, maybe ng+ scorpion lady for the SRB+2, though you've already got plenty of rings to use.

Faith has beatiful progression in 2; gets good stuff early and doesn't stop. Hexes suck early on, sorcery has this huge dead period mid-game, strength and dex can get pretty dull once you get your target weapon, faith just keeps on giving.

>>170645912
>Nothing in BB or the entire souls series is hard once you've played through a single one of these games.
This. For all the credit people give O&S, they forget that S can't track for shit. But since DaS is such the untouchable sacred cow, whatever it did wrong was conveniently overlooked. If they pulled the three minute straight line of the Undead Burg's level design, or the Capra Demon boss fight, or the magnitude of mob enemies like in the Undead Chapel in DaS2, people would have started riots. But since it was DaS, it was forgiven and forgotten.

>>170642326
Use unbuffed Sellswords. Be a man.

>setting up PC that can smoothly run ds3 as I type this
A dream is coming true. I've waited for over a year now

>>170646364
Challenge comes from using non optimal setups that can be more fun, if you just use the anti every enemy setup and change it out to fit the situation you're gonna have an easy time plowing through the game.

>>170646619
Grats dude.

TRC stream in about 30 minutes.

>>170646761

Link?

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>tfw when you first read Reversal Ring's description

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Was the desert sorceress set confirmed for TRC dlc? I remember it being mentioned by someone, but they might've been memeing

>>170646930
twitch tv/twitch

>>170645912
Then why did DaS2 babbies hype him up as hard until I busted their balls over it, and why do they still get triggered by that webm?

>>170647016
It's mentioned in vaati's notes, so if he's telling the truth then it's in.

No footage yet, though.

>>170647205
nobody is triggered. nobody was triggered. people only get sick of you posting the same canned responses and accompanying webms to select topics in an attempt to make yourself seem knowledgeable and an internet badass. you're a living meme, and not in a way that benefits you.