/twg/ - Total War General

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1st for united /twg/

>>166521369
Technology and player tactics are more than enough to make up for it I feel.

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now i'm in the mood for some Dwarf Fortress, good job CA

If our elector is to become Holy Roman Emperor ...

>>166522019
1212 is going to have to be released before that can come to pass.

Anyone else in the TW:Arena Alpha and hyped for this weekend?

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

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Chaos fucking shits beware, Sigmarines are coming.

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>>166522352
Shoo shoo

>>166522352
nice legoset kid

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Xth for CRUSADES

>>166521692
Does this come from experience or is this conjecture? Not being an asshole.
The early empire technology you can research are +2 rank, +8 leadership, and +speed. None of those are going to make up for the fact that your troops are outclassed by the AI's. My logic here is that your general constitutes 1 slot out of 20 in your army while the rest of your slots are going to be infantry, early game most of those are going to be state troops. Now you might buff your lord to be able to take out the enemies lord but that doesn't change the fact that in every other respect your army is inferior to the AIs. And if the odds are against you which they always will be on Legendary having a strong front line counts for far more than a strong Lord unit

>>166522769
Some poor experience, mostly conjecture.
My only VH (battle)difficulty game was as VC. harder battle difficulty hurt there but was not difficult to overcome, just need the same mindset of fighting slightly superior troops.

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Rock the boat!

>>166523191
Forge World was a mistake.

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Only trust a wood elf after you've properly disarmed them.

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>today wasn't the day

>this week won't be the week

>>166523714
February 28 is the propable release date for the Bretonnia update

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>>166523928
but i'm bored NOW

>>166523714
When is the usual main TW stream?
It's britbong wednesday right?
It's 2pm strayan wednesday at the moment so in like fourteen hours or so?

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>>166523420
You have no style, you have no taste.

Is RTW2 fixed now? Played it on release and dropped it in disgust. Is it playable now?

>>166524592
I forgot they did things that weren't large models.

>>166522936
I'm posting at an ungodly hour but I thought it would be rude to leave you without a reply so here you go.

>>166525332
Ok.

>>166524948
what about did you not like at launch
its still relatively the same game just less buggy and with some freelc

>>166525607
Fast flight, cannonball-san.

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>>166525607

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>>166525691
Ready to see Vlad fly?

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>>166525932
Definitely the most satisfying moment I've had from this game. Still lost the battle due to reinforcements being on the opposite side of the map, but killed a fuckload of undead.

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>>166526104

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Pig shit-covered stick hut in the backwoods of "civilized" Empire or comfy ork hut on the prairie amongst the "savage" orcs.

HMMM.

>>166525620
Absence of Family Politics, buggy, slow and unoptimized, unbalanced mess

>>166526413

franz my son you are tired now and must choose:

pig shit covered hut in the backwoods

or

comfy ork hut

So why do none of the factions released so far have their full unit roster?

>>166528154
And why the fuck aren't their officers of units, flag bearers, and musicians when even fucking vampire units have them?

When are we getting Knights of Gorkamorka (Dwarf Skirmisher Cavalry)?

>>166528791
And also, why don't a lot of units have unique abilities and traits like terrorghiests having a chance to very violently explode killing everyone around them?

>>166528154
>>166528791
>>166529047

most of it follows balancing, and warhammer being baby steps away from the standard Total War game.

Some things like flag bearers or musicians just may not have been all that cared for in the planning phase so they never got dev time.

>>166529198
I wish it wasn't baby steps though. It really doesn't do the setting justice. There's all sorts of cool shit and we don't get to see any of it.

>>166529198
>>166529306

Warhams was a proof of concept. Why on earth devote time to musicians if the battle/campaign system was fucked up and it R2'd itself?

I'm sure it'll get there and I have had fun playing it and I want a lot more added to but the first installment wasn't going to be crazy. I want equipment, musicians, officers, bigger deeper sieges, settlements, etc. but they had to get the foundation down in the first place before worrying about musicians.

If army painters, unit equipment interfaces, and other shit ain't around by the end of it that would be a detriment.

>>166523928
thought companies put that up as a place holder since they know it's coming out that month but they don't know the day.

>>166529306
It sucks. I'm starting to wish they had just taken a extra year of dev time to try and smooth things out.

>>166529639
That's why its in three parts.

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>>166529639
Money anon. Dev time costs money and they needed a release since Attila didn't sell very well and they needed a big and good release to distance itself from R2 release. With the TWW sales and DLC sales Sega is willing to let CA run wild with it since it proved it can sell. Top 12 well at that.

You guys forget that if TWW flopped CA would be hung by their guts right now.

>>166529626
well any other release date we get will be better, unless it gets pushed back again

>>166529870
that's actually pretty impressive for a game that didn't get all the hype bullshit Fallout 4 got

>>166529870
>f2p
>top seller
oh valve

>>166529605
Yeah it's bleedingly obvious that Warhammer was a very cautiously scoped out project. Meant we got a really good quality release with nary a bug, but also meant that a lot of the nuances and flavour of Warhammer The Universe didn't make it in.
I think they learned a lot of lessons about project management from the Rome 2 disaster. Most game studios don't survive that kind of shit.

>>166529870
>No Man's Sky is a platinum seller

How many retards actually bought that game on Steam?

>>166530232
I'm still fucking mad about Fallout 4.

>>166530354
thank god im not the only one bugged by that

>>166530594
http://steamspy.com/app/275850

>>166530614
Did you watch the Joseph Anderson videos on Fallout 4? They were interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A34poZ6paGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVyjRhSX92E

>>166530614
here's hoping they learn and don't stumble on elder scrolls 6

and getting off warhammer topic here i apologize but was anyone else completely urked by the synth shit? that irritated me more than any other bumble in this game, how could a a college living in a hole in the ground for 200 years have an advanced society of robots and artificial intelligence when the microchip was never invented and their tech was basically from the 50's? i can suspend my disbelief for lasers, sure but the rest of that was just.... horseshit. it was such a sci-fi grab that jumped the shark for me. i know they wouldn't dare ruin their elders scrolls bread and butter after skyrim's success but i'm still worried

>>166530895
No. But I guess I can-

>1:23:40
>2:32:30

...Maybe later. I've got a paper about the Klamath that I'm dragging myself through at the moment. Have a summary?

>>166531073
It's a sort of post-mortem academic analysis trying to figure out what Bethsoft were actually trying to achieve with Fallout 4. He also rips into the silly story and the total lack of player agency. It's dry watching but I feel it was a worthwhile watch, something to do on a rainy afternoon with a cuppa tea and bickies.

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>>166531034
The synths were a total jump the shark moment for the setting. To keep my rant short, it's a fucking pandora's box that they've opened up that is damaging to the setting. Hypertech replicants straight out of Blade Runner that are more than rare, they're practically pervasive seeing how many freaking characters in that game are seekrit robots. That and the power armor within the first five seconds, the absolutely butchering they gave dialogue, the heavy handed level scaling, the fucking minuteman micro management-

But, there are bits in that game that are good. Like, when you go delving through the ruins of what seems to be a ration distribution point and uncover the wait I'm doing exactly what I didn't mean to do in a total war thread agh agh.

>>166531183
I'll definitely watch it. I'd like an analysis of the mess of Fallout 4. It may be just stockholm syndrome talking, but underneath the god awful mess there were a few bits of something close to interesting.

IN THE MEANTIME, how about somebody drop some roll charts or something.

>>166530632
I'm not really bugged about it. I've accepted modern valve.
Just slightly amused by valve's transparency.

>>166530614
I wasn't really angry at all. You could see it coming a mile away.
Fallout 3 came out and was very retarded but still an okay game. Then New Vegas arrived and demonstrated just how incompetent Bethesda is.
As soon as they announced the game at E3 and teased player voice I knew it was going to be absolute garbage.
I wasn't sure of the scope of the garbage, but I knew it.

>>166530895
To the point that I don't much see the point of videos like this. Every one of Fallout 4's slipups is visible from the surface. No analysis is really necessary.

>>166531034
Thread is pretty dead anyway. Get in the steam chat/s if you want to continue discussion but feel bad about posting it here. I'll idle there, I won't post on this topic more than once.
Todd Howard did an interview where he seemed fairly aware of Fallout 4's reception and acknowledged that the voiced player character was an experiment and that it pretty much failed.
Which is at least a single bone we can grab at while hoping for a decent TES6.

I fixate on the voiced player character both as the first and final warning sign as the most dangerous precedent.
I think Skyrim is absolute garbage as well, and can only really be redeemed by mods that allow you to roleplay and experience the ok world on your own terms.
The voiced PC
a) results in a shit game, and thus less of a modding scene
b) basically eradicated any conceivable hope for mods that allow you to roleplay. As the only way they could get away with that is rewriting like 80% of the player's dialogue and 40% of everyone else's.

>>166530485

>Most game studios don't survive that kind of shit.

What's more mind-boggling is that the studio didn't even lose people they actually got more people because of Alien Isolation and Halo Wars 2.

I'm still confused how the fuck they got more workers after R2.

>>166531835
Rome 2 still sold quite well despite an abysmal launch.

so is warhammer still uncrackable? dont feel like paying hundred bucks of my currency just for half the game

>>166531835
They got a shit load of pre-orders for Rome 2 based off of their old reputation that gave them enough inertia to coast along and make Emperor Edition which fixed the most glaring issues for Rome 2.

...Actually, come to think of it, isn't Total Warhammer going to do a similar re-release kind of thing?

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Got to love the fucking AI in this game
>Turn 6
>End turn RIGHT OUTSIDE Eilhart about to kill the secessionists, whatever I'll do it next turn
>Fucking rebels "united" Middenland against me RIGHT BEFORE I fucking killed them
>Whatever, I'll burn down a few settlements and they'll ask for peace
>They then unite fucking Nordland against me
>You've got to be shitting m-
>They then unite Orion against me
WHAT. THE. FUCK. I've never seen the AI do this this much in a campaign. Honestly I don't even think I can win anymore, it is only turn 15 and Orion is already coming towards Helmgrat with a couple doomstacks. Thankfully he hasn't confederated with every elf faction yet, but seriously man this is bullshit.

they should get obsidian to do the next total war game

>>166531994
Yeah; Old World edition. Assuming that will be the de facto "final" stage of the product, then some patches to fix whatever they break in OW edition, maybe one more minor DLC, then sequel work.

>>166532168
maybe they'll add musicians in OW edition

or make the map bigger

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This item is some top tier bullshit. The aoe of it is fucking huge, easily enough to cover an entire enemy front line where the fuck has this been in all my other games.

They should add a spell to Karl Franz that lets him summon a unit of Todbringer clones called "The Elector Counts."

>>166532262
God damn I just want a fucking map editor and being able to add new models. That's all I need, at least a campaign and battle map editor along with basic pathing tools for the AI. I really don't get why they won't, yeah people will release stuff for free but its extremely unlikely it will be better than anything CA shits out aside from their garbage RoR.

>>166532168
>>166531994
The difference is that Warhammer was well received, as people have said, so OWE will be even more profitable for them

>>166531641
>That pic
lel, Do you have more pics like that?

>>166529870
True, I just hope they use the first part as a testing ground and hopefully all the money thats come in will help with parts 2/3.

I just want this game to be as good as it should be. I love it as it is but there's so much more they could be doing you know?

>>166530895
Ok these seem pretty interesting, going to give them a watch.

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>>166532502
Did you think I had forgotten, Kharl?

>>166533776
I wish I had more pictures like that. No, I just found it in TWG one day with no idea where it came from or how it was made.

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>Napoleon's romp around Europe still going strong
Oh boy.
I've taken Normandy and Bretagne and currently have an invasion force on course for Gibraltar, but I'm not sure I will be able to make it up to France in time. Time to get a little more pushy.

>>166535987
Remember to exterminate the swiss.

>having fun on a Russian max difficulty Empire dathmod campaign
>Ottoman Empire decides it doesnt want to play any more and create a million single unit stacks to crash the game
fucking Turkroaches

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>>166534430
THE SKELEGATES, KHARL

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>>166536556

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Warhammer Total War is fun, but it really makes me wish for some more political depth and a bigger map. I'd like it if there was a bit more to uniting the empire than "Bumrush them immediately, or wait for Chaos to invade and then slowly confederate them painfully as your populace get pissed off that you're uniting the empire." I wish there was a combination of Warhammer's setting and Crusader Kings 2.

>>166536687
>Implying any brettonian is ugly
They literally get every feast day off to work on their beauty regimens.

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>>166537216
oh anon have I got some good news for you

>>166537719
Well fuck I should have just known somebody would mod that shit. Dang, custom portraits too. Geheimnisnacht eh? Is it an unstable buggy mess that needs me to roll back updates to three expansions before, or is it actually current and stable?

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Skeledingdong

>>166537869
Pretty current and relatively stable

Some might say it's a bit bloated though

>>166537869
I've played it extensively. It's actually really well done, and the legitimate only catch is that it runs a bit slow because it covers the ENTIRE Warhammer world. Bretonnia, Dwarfs, The Empire, Lizardmen, Elves, even barbar tribes in the Chaos Wastes.

The current version was the first stable release of the mod (1.0) and is compatible with the current version of CK2. I'm currently playing a Bretonnia campaign right now.

>>166537216
>I wish there was a combination of Warhammer's setting and Crusader Kings 2.

That would only work for feudalistic-type settings, though.
Any other setting or era & the whole 'family' deal is off.

>>166537719
And Warhammer is definitely NOT a 'family' setting.
Unless marrying your daughter off to Orcs is your magical realm?
in which case: take your fapping someplace else, furry

>>166538163
It doesn't have to deal with families and dynasties, though. I'd argue the main feature of CK2 isn't dynasties or politics (they are major focal points though) but the ability to roleplay characters. That's where the Warhammer potential comes in.

And yes there's a feature that lets you do interracial marriage and stuff. It's optional though and I don't use it

They should reduce the number of units in a grail knight squad. They're the very cream of the crop, they shouldn't come in a group of 30 dudes. Should be maybe 6-8 max, and adjust their stats accordingly to make them still powerful/dangerous.

>>166538256
>It's optional though and I don't use it
you disgust me

>>166538596
Should do the same with Blood Knights tbqh

>>166538596
All units numbers are inflated. It's fine.
The Blood Dragons comment is correct as well. Can't be perfect.

>>166538896
Conveniently ignore the size of demigryph units. Or any units of smaller size, really.

>>166538147
>>166538146
Well I'm sold. Lizard time. Or maybe Araby since there's no way in hell they'll show up as a playable faction in Total War and I've always had a soft spot for Arabian Nights kind of fantasy.

>>166538256

IMHO, the entire point (raison d' etre, so to speak) of CK2 is roleplaying as a head of dynasty.

>>166538682
Case in point right here.
>>>/b/

>>166539117
Yeah those unit sizes are more on point, only inflated a bit.

But we're not counting off a standardized point system here. It's not Grail knights and Empire knights costing the same, It's Grail knights costing almost double.
Numbers need also be adjusted for unit mass. There is a significant difference between 'ordinary' cavalry and monstrous cavalry in the way that they interact with the enemy.

>>166539306
It's not like dynasty mechanics don't fit Warhammer though. Dwarf clans, Imperial families, Bretonnian nobles, Elf dynasties... it all works.

re-downloading Rome 2. What are the best mods?

>>166538596
pls no

Warhammer battles already feel small on ultra

>tfw no paid DLC coming with Bretonnia

>>166540080
I had some of my best tw campaigns using DEI, but it's not a mod for everyone

>>166541163
What's so good about it?

>>166541183
I don't remember much and it's probably changed a lot by now, but it did make the game 100% better than vanilla without a doubt.
If you don't mind slower paced combat anyway. Larger battles can go on forever if you don't break their morale/flank, which did make seiges a bit tedious.

The redone mechanics and research etc are all great, check it out. Best overhaul mod I've played since med2 mods.

>>166541163
Any good mods for attila?

>>166541713
waiting for the medieval and LOTR overhaul mods still. I'd just check whatevers popular on the steam workshop that isn't radius

NIPPON
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?

Is there any point in using retreat on the campaign map? The enemy is always able to pursue and rekk my shit.

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>>166538146
>>166537719

>>166542149
if they moved a long distance to get to you, yea, then they wont be able to reach you after retreating

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>>166532502
>map editor and being able to add new models
*autistic shrieking*

>>166542174
There are places other than the workshop for mods m8. It's called Geheimnisnacht on the paradox forums.

>>166541713
Ancient Empires is great. It was released late last year.

>>166542174
It's on the Paradox forums, in the CK2 mod section.

>>166542305
a-at least they say they'll add a battle map editor...

>>166542305
I don't mind if we can only use gw parts, But only if we get all the models.

>you realize that once ogre kingdoms comes out, man eaters will help to supply accessories that will allow for a multitude of different factions.

Warhammer is a slow burn but its going to be its best at the end.

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>pssh nothing personal gor

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I miss the 19 COMITATENSES armies, pls come back

>>166542305
Just let me edit the campaign map you double druchii.

>>166543094
That's got nothing to do with GW. It's just far too costly to make for something that maybe 1 mod will end up using and that will bring in no new customers. See: Shogun 2.

fight against a stack of unarmoured sav orcs and my cannon still kills twice as much as my hellstorm, while using a mod that supposedly buffs them.
why are these things so useless, yet so cool.

>>166543172
Well maybe if it wasn't released so god damn late.

>>166543017
On the plus side if you have like 4 units of cav in your army that's going to be a pretty easy fight all things considered.

>>166543331
the nearest army had 0 cav. it's weird, for some reason as Himyar your first general starts as cav but any recruited after him is a t2 very heavy axe infantry. would much rather have those general types and armoured camel warriors than the shitty desert chieftain, which is what the axemen "upgrade" into with technology.

>>166543017
did they finally fix the auto battle?

Anyone else using the Steel Faith Overhaul mod for TW:W?

I'm enjoying it even though it's not as close to DEI as I'd like but it is still something.

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>>166543512
>no cav as the supreme camel fuckers
But why?

>>166542758
God I would kill for that desu. That's all I want. People will be able to make river and bridge maps with that right???

>>166543623

I wanted an army specialised in taking towns and I'm not too fond of cavalry in town battles. Plus, I didn't have the cavalry building available at the time due to focusing on infantry. The town they captured I ended up building a cavalry corral, though. I left 4 slots open in the army for cavalry and/or archers but I've been stealing artillery from ERE.

>>166543707
Fair enough I guess, himyar infantry is pretty disgusting at street fighting though so it's no great loss having cav even in a siege army.

Their entire infantry roster being armor piercing tanks is pretty disgusting desu. It's why they're my favorite faction

>>166542305

Why do GW care if they nuked the series anyway?

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>tree reich is only strength ranking 4 after steamrolling the empire
I am suddenly scared of what is waiting in the north

>>166543786
I notice you had the word "disgusting" on your mind as you were writing your post
I've made a couple inferences from that fact
Just wanted you to know

i wanna play the TW:W dlcs but too lazy to set up creamapi :(

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G O B L I N S

>>166543912
>projecting
It's a good description of infantry units that can 4vs1 and win anon.

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>Harad in charge of
In charge of nothing, apparently

>>166544536
You are heavily exaggerating

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>>166544658

>>166544710
>exaggerating
You caught me, their best infantry can only 3vs1 They can't do it to literally everything but they can do it to pretty much any unit of spearmen in the game while sustaining minimal losses. Yes it's what they're designed to kill sure but they do it with fucking terrifying efficiency and in one 3 stack vs 1 stack battle I have had before now they racked up kill counts on par with the fucking camels while losing less than 20 men

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>>166545045
They're at peace now

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I'm going to start an Azhag very hard grand campaign

SOMEBODY STOP ME

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

End times could use an update
Eb 2 could use an update
AE could use a campaign release
1212 could use a campaign release

Any sales for Fall of the Samurai now or soon?

I'm starting to get tired of vanilla S2

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the ai disembarked its naval units behind a barricade

Hey, Mousillonbro, are you here? I need some advice.

>>166547227
I'd also like to know if Darthmod is any good, I've played several TW games but I've never modded any.

I've got a good feeling that today will be the day.

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>>166548083

It will never EVER be the day.

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We may have gone too far in a few places

>>166548429
>all this inconsequential shit and Parthia still has less than ten units

Damn right I mad.

>>166548429

Who's your favorite legionary unit, /twg/? Mine is the Augustan one with a blue shield with white butterfly wings painted on it.

>>166548596
The red one with the gold on it.

>>166548429
>rome gets eighteen thousand autistic unit choices
>more interesting factions get five AT MOST

Total War was a mistake.

>>166548662
>red one with the gold on it
>not the black one with gold on it

pleb discovered

>>166548429

Is this the true manifestation of autism Anon?

>>166548429
Oh boy

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>>166548429
>legionary skirmishers
>auxiliary cataphracts

It's like I'm actually playing Radious!

>>166548429
how far are they on the scale?
that must be very advanced autism

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>>166548429

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>It's a Kislev burns down half the Empire episode

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Chaos invasion at turn 32? What's the big idea archy?

>>166550289
thats the first wave, its weak marauders and shit

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Holy fuck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Candia

>>166551435
damn

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>>166551435

>Data obtained from the Archives of the Venetian State, relating to an operation organized by the Venetian Intelligence Services, describes a plan aimed at lifting the siege by infecting the Ottoman soldiers with plague; this was to be done by attacking them with a liquid made from the spleens and buboes of plague victims.

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>>166548547
Parthia has 12 unique units plus whatever AOR units it will acquire through conquest.
>>166548694
>five AT MOST
The smallest factions in AE, Mauri and Garamantia, desert people with almost no recorded history, get 7 units and all are historically accurate and not made up. The other small factions at least have over 10.
>>166548865
>>legionary skirmishers
>>auxiliary cataphracts
>It's like I'm actually playing Radious!
Antisigani are historically sourced, they are legionaries who adopt lighter equipment in order to fill the role of skirmishers, as well as auxiliary cataphracts which the Romans made use of.
>>166548429
Most of these units come from the existing Legions of Rome mod but have been visually tweaked to be more historical and realistic.

>>166548429
I FUCKING HATE WHEN WE GET UNIT VARIETY AND OPTIONS BECAUSE IT CLUTTERS UP THE CUSTOM BATTLE SCREEN WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE HOW WOULD I OTHERWISE SHITPOST ABOUT THIS MOD

>>166552310

>A billion of the exact same unit with minute stat variations
>"""Options"""

So this is the power of autism.

>>166526104
Kek, that's pretty good.

>>166552443
They're AOR reskins you retard

It just means that if you recruit a legionnaire in britain, he will look like a legionnaire from britain, or if you recruit a legionnaire from africa, he will be a nigger

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Fire in warhammer when?

>>166552630
It looks neat, but not worth the CPU killing to be honest ;_;

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why would you pay money for that? is he starting BLACKED 1600 years early?

Onnigger or onnijjer?

>>166553465
On-a-ger, per the Latin.

anybody who wants to play a warhammer campaign? head to head.

>>166552630
What's the point of fire damage now?? Is it like TT 8E where it kills trolls quicker.
Whar does fire damage other than the Banner of Eternal Flame?

>>166530895
>I have never played Fallout 1 or 2 and probably never will
Closed the video there.

Be honest with me lads, is Bretonnia just going to be an Empire reskin?

>>166553805
We don't know.

>>166553715
Kills dryads, treekin and treemen faster.
Fucks up units with regeneration (trolls included).

Fire lore. Starshaft arrows. Irondrakes. Flame cannon. Some RoRs.

Just got a Critical Success from the Exploit Corruption action. AMA.

>>166553805
Why would they?

>>166554221
on a scale from 1 to 10 where 1 means I suck cock for fun and 10 means I suck cock for money and fun how gay are you?

>>166554221
What?

>>166554221

A/S/L?

>>166553805
They already aren't with the current roster, why the fuck would they be

>>166554338

3, I guess. I like to hire generals that have the curious trait.

>>166554379

What?

>>166554491
23/M/UK

>>166553805

The question doesn't even make sense.

>tfw wiping out an empire whose leader has the "hates rival empires" trait

its so good bros

lads, they've updated the wiki with some bretonnian stuff

http://whenc.totalwar.com/#/character/wh_main_brt_bretonnia/general/brt_louen_leoncouer

>>166555108

is this STUFF

>>166555108

Pretty sure all that stuff was always there, just unlisted.

>>166555108
Is there anything else? Bretonnia isn't showing up for me when I try to navigate it.

>>166553805
Can you imagine?
>"we hope you enjoy the entirely new units we have created for Bretonnia!"
>grailgunners
>grail cannon
>jade damsel, grey damsel, bright damsel
>swordsmen-at-arms
>reiksgrail knights
>and of course, the height of human ingenuity and faith in ze lady, the grail tank

>>166555108
HYPE FOR THE HYPE GOD

NEWS FOR THE NEWS THRONE

>>166555660

You can't navigate for any of the Bretonnian stuff, it's been there since launch though, you have to use direct links to get to it.

Don't remember how people go the links in the first place though.

>>166547938
Had a full sengoku campaign and a RotS with darthmod and they were good enough for me. I was mainly interested in longer battles and the mod delivered, plus a little more nice stuff.

How do I into Chaos?

Really like the roster but I fucking suck at basically the entire horde mechanic.

Just started my first game as Syracuse on Rome 2. Is it normal for Carthage to declare war on turn 1, and then Rome to declare war on turn 2?

>>166556253
Not really. They both plus the Etruscan league should have declared war on you by turn 1

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Playable Kislev when?

How do you do sieges in Shogun 2?

It seems like there is no other option than to send up units from every angle, casualties are huge.

Open battles are ez pz, but sieges seem shit compared to all other total war titles, even warhammers are better.

>>166556839
Look at campaign videos online. Players split their army in two, sending one to one side of the castle, distracting the enemy that way, while climbing the walls on the other side.
It's AI abuse, it's retarded, but that's how it works.

>>166556839
From what I've read about them. Is that generally you don't.

>>166532013
>Waaaah! The game is actually challenging now and i can't deal with it. Waaaah!

>>166555108
None of that is new, they haven't even added Morghur yet.

Hello where is Bretonnia please

>>166557780
Hello tomorrow

>>166557780
Most likely it will be 23rd of feb.

>>166555964
The campaign is completely broken and almost unplayable, sadly. Horde grows slow as fuck. Destroy the building that gives you marauders, build the chaos warrior building in its place, loot and raze the fuck out of everything.

It's just boring garbage compared to the other factions, that have good pacing and interesting strategy options. But I do agree that the units are cool as shit and Kholek is the most fun lord in the game.

>>166558081
It is a bit boring but it isnt difficult or anything.

>>166555964
Turtle in norsca, wipe out Varg get growth till you get Chosen play as Archaon and win the game.

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>>166558081
Playing SFO simply having building generate an income is such a game changer, also any mod that increases horde growth is a necessity.

Main problem is you will never have anywhere near the same number of armies as a territory faction and you have to be so cautious with your hordes which goes against their reckless nature.

I don't mind being crafty but being forced to being so passive kinda sucks. Also there are no map objectives. Artifacts, great chaos portals, add something for me to do besides burn shit.

With some adjustments I like them but they need some love next installment.

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All those zombies aren't going to kill jack shit but they can damn well tire the enemy out before the real shit gets engaged

>>166559053
That's basically the best way to play VC
You can support several stacks of useless fodder alongside your main armies, and they create gravesites to raise stronger units as well as excellent meatshields

>>166559162
It is also incredibly annoying thanks to the terrible movement speed of the zombies. They tend to crumble very fast aswell if they actually have to face a serious army.

>>166559053
How did you get gold ranks on those units? The highest I've ever been able to get has been silver.

>>166559053
>>166559162
>>166559252
>>166559259
But why would you ever want zombies when skeletons might actually get a few kills, move less painfully slow, have shields, and aren't much more expensive?

>>166559259
You can get some decent bonuses if you actually build for it and then there's Vlads training skill.

>>166559432
>Aren't much more expensive
They cost twice as much though?

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>>166559684
This, I'm really tight on $$$

>>166559259
I can train them and they start with like 6 chevrons

>>166558556
I think Chaos rifts created from sacking settlements as chaos should act like the wood elf outposts, as in they don't provide any recruitment capability on their own but let you raise armies there and get replenishment, maybe let you build something that gives factionwide bonuses to horde growth/replenishment.

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>>166559053
>>166559162
>>166559432

Haven't played VC yet but planning to do so once the old world edition comes out. Is it worth it to research techs that buff skellies and zombies early on or should i be focusing on something more worthwhile?

>>166559908
Ignore those and do all the economy techs first.

>>166559684
True, but it's just 50 vs 75 upkeep. Is it still worth it? Disclaimer: I am not good at the game, just wondering.

>>166559908
I get the city and building income, then the +movement range on map, then wrap up the income tree with the necromancer/crypt bonuses
I suppose the unit buffs aren't too bad but I haven't used them in awhile

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>>166553715


tfw burning Athel Loren to the ground

with no survivors

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>>166559860
Meh, outposts aren't that fun or interesting.

Herdstones and rifts should be places that I care about but instead are just a corruption-spreading place holder for a destroyed town. They can also just get recolonized for next to nothing. I'd rather build those elsewhere and raid/sack nearby for the sacrifices to improve them.

These sites could also house your infrastructure rather than the hordes so that you can be aggressive with armies.

For you to wipe out WoC and Beastmen you have to wipe out their lairs instead of merely defeating them in battle. Still a horde with no territory but something to care about.

Imagine battle maps featuring herdstones deep in the woods or ominous chaos blood sites.

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>Tfw you're the only guy in the unit who could afford scale armor

>>166560435
>not taking elf sluts as sex slaves.

>>166560908
Lamellar armor* realised my brainfart the moment i posted this.

>>166560908
Couldn't afford arrows too it seems.

>>166559980
They are literally just a meashield for the important things that actually get things done. If you want fewer stacks you could use skeletons, But you might have to look after them a bit more, whichs adds some micromanagement.

I think Heinrich gets some lower upkeep for skeletons or something from his quest item, but that's just for his army.

I dunno

>>166560942
>ywn creampie a Spellslinger

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Hello my dear friends of /twg/. How are you today?

>>166561847
Got some weird aches and pains in my chest, and I'm having trouble focusing on my work.

How are you?

>>166561847
Alive, in European history class learning about Peloponnesian War, waiting for my new computer parts to come.

Am also still sick.

>>166561847
I'm a 20 yr old virg who's recently put on weight, I'm bored all the time, got no job, and none of my classes have girls in them.

But other than that I'm ok

>>166561847
Im tired and stressed all the time. Dont have much money atm but Im alive.

Recently reached master-rank in overwatch though, so thats fun.

>>166562443

I used to be like that until I was put on anti depressants by my doctor. I got sertraline and I'm much more active, less bored, more energy now. I'd say it helped a lot.

>>166562241
Doing really fine, I have some time off before the last semester. Any mineral/vitamin deficiency by chance? I am drinking magnesium myself.
>>166562426
Get some food to boost the antibodies. The Peloponnesian wars are really fun. I liked how Athens got in trouble for being overconfident.
>>166562443
There seems to be a lack of a long term goal. Are you studying the thing you really want to do?
>>166562645
Good to hear. Stay well anon.

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For Rome!!

>>166562749
>>166562879
>Are you studying the thing you really want to do?
I recently quit my history major, and I'm now in the welding program at the local CC, and im supposed to have my first certificate by the end of this year.

but even though I took two classes of it in HS I don't have a passion for it. I'm just doing it cause I know I'll find work as a welder

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Hello you cunt

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>Spends the last 10 years exterminating every nest of mudslimes he comes across
>Gets pic related
CAAAAAAAAAA!

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>>166563232
>Skeleton Ambush

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>>166563082

Aaaah.... Wome....

>>166563232

>that many cannons

Yeah you should be able to roast and eat that bird easy in an ambush

Giant might be a pain in the ass though - how's Manny's magic?

>>166563232

>No Bloodknights in time for Big Bird's invasion

Shameful desu Manny.

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>>166563509
>How's Manny's magic
Not the best but should be good enough

I'm thinking sending the horses into the Hellcannons from the hill with the Vargheists from the other side
Skelly spears on their horses and giant more as a distraction than genuinely out to finish them, might send the Cairn wraiths as well since Big Bird has magic attacks so would like to keep them apart
Everyone else on the infantry and Big Bird

>>166561032
It's an ingenious strategy for that guy really.
>Can afford armor or arrows, not both
>Arrows don't protect you
>Armor does
>Just pretend you have arrows, let everyone else do the actual shooting

It looks like everyone else caught on to his scheme however and tried to copy him.

>>166563781
I would put the cairns on the chaos spawn and giant. I would also try to hold the hill in the pic since it will neuter their charges having to go uphill. Can use vargheists to kill their hell cannons.

>>166563781

Good plan

Does Manny have his Vortex spell?

Might be worth unleashing that on the infantry while your cavalry are spit-roasted chaos dorfs

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When?

>>166563232
>5 flame cannons
Fuck Chaos

>>166564190
7 months

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>>166563781
I'm really glad they made ambushes not shit, in Shogun 2 they were entirely pointless but know they're great fun.
All CA need to do now is manage to get the AI to set them properly

>>166564190

>wanting Slann with a garbage magic system

Good luck with that

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>>166561537

>>166522352
GO AWAY NOT!SPACE MARINES.

If I wanted good counterparts to Warriors of Chaos, then for starters I wouldn't give the main troops masks and hammers from the get-go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3outQoC4qiA

Post best tracks in their game

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>>166564332

>>166530354
Hats man.

>>166564680
post feet

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>>166564902
Of course it never ends

I want to give warhammer a try before buying it
how do i pirate it with the dlc's and updates?

>>166565609

>how do i pirate it with the dlc's and updates?

You can't

Get bent.

Also, Steam refunds

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>>166565760
you go fuck yourself, there's a crack and i intend to use it
steam refunds only work for 2 hours of gameplay and i'd need at least half campaign to decide if the game is worth buying

>>166566146
>there's a crack
lol

>>166566146

>there's a crack and i intend to use it

There isn't though.

>>166564859
my favorite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok86Hw5CZqE

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>>166566146
>he doesn't know

>>166566197
>>166566201
voksi

>>166566290

Go head and try m8

Won't work.

>>166566584
fuck it
i'd rather wait for CA to release modding tools for Tilla, and for RoM to get released

>>166564332
Always the best feeling when tearing up those cannons.

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>>166565449

>>166521919
Fuck. That reminded me of the dwarf starting area in Warhammer Online. Before they changed it so every race shared same boring Chaos/Human zones.

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I don't think the Prophecy mentioned anything about this

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>catapult is a much more effective artillery piece than the gunpowder cannons

What did CA mean by this?

>>166564680

>>166568301
CA confirmed for patrician waifu makers.

>>166569352


>enemy lord has been wounded!

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Guys they have 5 hellcannons in this forest, how do I approach them without getting fucked?

I caught them in forced march

>>166560594
>imagine battle maps
yeah that would be wild wouldn't it

>>166569556
I've always found cannons more useful myself

>>166569767
They throw in new battle maps every patch tho. Adding some for herdstones and great rifts wouldn't be that out there. Some of the WElf maps are really good.

>>166569556

>Anti-infantry is better against an army of almost all infantry

Really enlivens the dendrites

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Skaven when?

>>166569724
try to keep them in the forest/advance through the forests on your side, hellcannons get screwed over by forests due to only having one projectile since that giant purple blob tends to hit trees

>>166569976
:^)

>>166570002

As soon as CA wants to permanently ruin the series forever

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>>166569949
Love the battle maps in bretonnia

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>>166570329
>Not wanting to fight off an endless Vermintide
>Or be an endless rat wave
Can't wait to see Tilea and Estallia go up in flames and not because of elves

>>166570329
>ruin
Horned Rat pls go

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Can some enlightened ten star help me with my army? General is bushido, 100 XP away from Bushido morale upgrade.

>>166570554
>tfw headshotting Stormvermins.

>>166571075
>Dark Elves that low
it's like you guys hate fun

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So the next medieval gameplay available will be 1212 for Attila. What siege weapons will it include? Just your average onagers and trebuchets or also some gunpowder?

>>166571312
>flat uninteresting characters
>shitty units
>shit repeating crossbows
>ballistas only artillery
>some dull monsters
>half naked women somehow effective battlefield fighters with daggers
>won't even be proper navies
>fun

They really are a shit faction.

>>166569352
So that's why Archaon has those stupid horns.

>>166571075
This is disgusting

>>166571075
PROPER LIST:

Skaven -> Dark Elves -> Lizardmen -> everything else -> High Elves.

>>166571075

>reddit votes for the reddit rats

what a shock

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>>166571075

MEANWHILE

>>166571520
>flat uninteresting characters
>shitty units
>shit crossbows
>only artillery
>no monsters
>no women because they're all fags
>won't even be proper navies
>fun
Dwarfs really are a shit faction.

Do you want me to go on with the other factions? They all suck tbqh

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>sallying forth
>against horsefuckers

I'll never understand Total War AI

>>166571958
>you need monsters and women when you have big artillery guns and ironclads.

>>166571958
No they all have their style and if 1 person doesn't like it who cares. Like what you like pham

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>attack a lord outside castle drakenhof
>see that the garrison is reinforcing directly behind me
>trap and destroy it

OUTTA MY WAY VAMP FUCKING SHITS

Volley gun or rocket battery?

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>>166521428
>tfw somebody used your image from years ago
Now It got to wonder though, how hard would it be to add Dacia into RotS nowadays.
I mean all the unit models exist now thanks to R2 so it should be doable.

>>166572930
They are both fun.

I prefer the volly gun though, so that.

It does appear dmg

>>166570554
You know full well that CA won't do Skaven ANY justice. It'll be a shitty horde faction and none of the Skaven gimmicky unit will work to satisfaction.

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>while I was off murdering elves the ai dwarf factions won the badlands bowl

now I just have to wait for shield of civilization to kick in and confederate them

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>>166572930

Late game I use 2 rockets, 2 great cannon and 2 volley guns. Mainly due to the fact that you can replace your entire infantry line with 2-3 steam tanks.

Composition would be:

3 Steam tanks in the front

4 demigryphs to defend flanks and artillery from cav etc.

6 handgunners behind the steam tanks to deal damage as enemies encircle the steam tanks
.
6 artillery.

>>166570554
>Tilea and Estallia go up in flames and not because of elves
Skarsnik?

>warhammer
>warhammer
>warhammer
jesus can't CA release a new game so I can do some historical shitposting.

>>166573545
couldn't you do it with Attila?

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>>166573434
>Skarsnik doing anything
watch that scum die every campaign to WElf/Empire stacks

>>166572886

thorgrim looks like hes smoking a big cigar there

>>166573971
Cigars actually are a thing in the Warhammer world.

>>166573971
Until I actually played the dwarfs I thought that too

>>166573316
That sounds like unfun, hit the start button and go watch porn or something for a few minutes.

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>>166573545
>he can't do historical shitposting 24/7 no matter the day
You are a disappointment, Frenk. No wonder you lost the Holy Land to the murderers of Isa.

>>166573545
Just post your campaigns then.

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GRIMNIR'S AXE THIRSTS

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Wew laddy

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>>166574498
Oh boy time for rapid colonisation