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Old thread: >>166285427
First for Barbarians
IF YOU IZ TA BECOME SHOGUNMIL'TRY RULER OF ALL JAPAN
>>166391352
>Spanish barbarians complaining about barbarians
It's like pottery.
>>166391440
Spain is proud Romano-Punic nation, okay.
nth for Europa Barbaorum
G O B L I N S
>>166391150
It's been some time, ROLLAN!
>>166391150
dwarves would never attach a goblin to a projectile in real life as it would completely mess up the trajectory. please delete this image
Holy fucking shit the Empire's infantry is shitty as fuck. How do I deal with the early game?
>>166391957
>>166392129
Empire isn't about fighting rocks with rocks. Its the fact that you have the most options. Empire infantry is there to keep the other shit alive, not win the game.
>>166391957
WITNESS MY BEATY
CRUSADES
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>>166392352
>GS, Halberds and even swordsmen beat 70% of enemy units
>not there to win the game
just by virtue of it being there to hold a line it's OP.
>>166392545
CRUSADES?!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH WOME
>>166392610
I'm not saying they are bad but its usually what the infantry are protecting/holding that wins the matches. High damage, low AP infantry can really shine gutting through a state troop formation.
Cav, handgunners, magic and artillery will do the damage you need. State troops are to make sure they get their good scenarios. Chaos are the opposite idea, everything is to support the warriors
Our Angrund flyboys begrudging Karaz-Ankor groti
>>166392957
And my point is that the fact that their infantry can hold the line against a melee centric faction is OP. Their infatry should die fast against chaos forcing the Empire player to keep his range mobile, protected and distract using the cavalry and magic at his disposal. Currently you can sit there (which dwarfs can't do) and do everything at leisure. They also have near matchless melee flyers.
>>166393067
>>166393410
Well the balance isn't there yet for sure. The disorder factions all kind of got the shit end of the balance stick for some reason aside from Vamps who have been CA's little pet forever.
It used to be far worse with how GS used to perform. And how damn cost effective and spammable demis were.
>>166391150
>Total War Warhammer Old World Edition releases 28th February
So is it safe to say we're probably not getting Bretonnia before then?
>>166392210
Get over here you little bastard!
We still have a score to settle.
>>166393846
Greenskins and Chaos are both better than stunties.
>>166393861
most likely yes
just fuck my shit up
>>166393846
certainly, but its not just about balance, it's that CA have preconcieved ideas baout what each faction should be that won't translate into total war games. It's party due to them copying 8th edition which is cancer as far as infantry goes but also part of how they balance infatry against monsters and overwhelming units. They also need to make factors like armour and unit health more important. Wth dwarfs for instance, you should never want to charge them unless you expect to be held up for a long time taking steady losses.
>>166394001
Stunties got a lot better recently, grumbling guard into Runelord/Runesmith and you win every attrition war with vigor/leadership aura, and the runes. People take them on ladder and tournaments. The WElf """"""""fix"""""""" really fucked over that match up but its still winnable for the dwarf.
I am really happy with Chaos coming back from the trash bin it was in. Greenies have always been solid but never the best.
>>166394376
Yeah, the runeblob is their only viable schtick. Greenskins can get lucky with black orcs sometimes. Chaos are more reliable against them because they can flying/shaggoth goon squad to squish the lord and heroes.
>>166394598
It ain't beard starts playing
>>166391957
Skarsnik pls
>>166394598
COME ON BABY TAKE A CHANCE WITH US
AND MEET ME AT THE BACK OF THE BLUE BUS
>>166394691
IM NO GUILDSMAN SON
>>166394598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9eybY9qFfY&t=133s
Dear /twg/,
today I learned that you can disband units under siege. Including lords.
I wonder how many brave generals I could have saved from death if I knew this beforehand.
Also my archlector almost soloed a WE stack, holy shit I'm glad I was able to retire him before they took the town.
>>166394460
Flying goon squad is the best way of dealing with it by picking off a smith. You can't let 2 or 3 left in the end. Greenskins could use a couple more hero/lord options (black orc leadership).
I wouldn't mind being able to upgrade blocks on infantry to larger sizes, some RoR do this as a feature but it'd be nice to be able to shove more numbers. Also a necessity for upcoming factions (Skaven).
>>166394327
Didn't 8th ed nerf everyone but infantry? I know cav and skirmishers got a little weaker IIRC
Axe throwers are pretty strong
>>166394598
>And thats when Dawi Bardin realised his grudges will never be settled.
>>166395753
Smart... for a dwarf.
What the fuck is this, some gobbo just assassinated Grombrindal and I had no legendary lords to replace him with
My army just fucking vanished and apparently the non-existant Thorgrim will take another 4294967259 turns to recover
>>166396131
Just give up now stunties.
>>166396131
Now that's some mighty stabbin' right there.
DEY WONT FEEL A THINGWHICH IS A PITY
HALF THE FUCKING MAP DECLARED WAR ON ME ALL OF A SUDDEN
INCLUDING LONG TIME ALLIES
AND I GOT EVERY SINGLE NAP CANCELLED
WHAT THE FUCK
>>166397276
What game?
Did you colonize with your only big army?
What's your rep?
>king has led the same army for 55 years and won 66 battles with them
what a fucking animal
>>166396131
I think it will come back with the lord.
>>166397468
Warhammer, playing as Empire.
I literally have no idea what it was, I didn't disolve any particularly strong armies, just some smaller patrol one.
Then suddenly
>Dwarves have neded their nat with you
>Kislev has ended their trade with you
>Ostermark has ended their nat with you
>Vampire Counts has declared war on you
>Your allies refused to help you (except Middenland, thanks Boris)
>Karak Hirn has declared war on you
>Wood Elves has declared war on you
>Ostermark has declared war on you
>Karak Fuck Your Mother has declared war on you
What the FUCK. Not even 20 turns before they were all begging for non aggrestion treaties.
>>166397829
Means you are untrustworthy. Maybe you betrayed someone
>>166398017
>The ghost of Marienburg chuckles in the distance
>>166398017
I don't even know how it happened. I've been trying my hardest to not break any treaties of any kind. Was it because two of my allies declared war on each other?
>Top Knotz declare war for literally no reason
>Send THREE (3) fucking doomstacks on turn fucking 7
>This is all that remains by the end
Everything that isn't standing in front of this fucking camera is dead. What a bloodbath. Armbreaker is a git and probably a gobbo too. Wuurzag and Spleenrippa ok not Armbreaker and gobbos. Praise Gork (and Mork).
>>166398187
God damn it, it was my allies declaring war on Marienburg, who was my vassal, isn't it? I entered war on their side then immediately revasalized Marienburg so I wouldn't have to deal with that shit every time. Did that actually lower my trustworthiness? Fuck this.
Why did I fucking vasalize Marienburg, I should have held Gorssel myself and stop overcomplicating it.
>>166395485
>didn't 8th nerf everyone but infantry
exactly, which is why CA haven't got infantry balanced. The horde rule was a massive upgrade for infantry and monsters got thunderstomp to preserve them as anti-infantry since having 6+ attacks in stats is pretty overwhelming in the combat phase. Still horde was an overpowered way of making cheap shitty infantry durable and capable of leeching enemy units.
>>166398491
Sounds about right, with Empire its usually something with Marienburg since people always want the money from the port.
>>166398551
I wouldn't mind some hordes being more swampy with their basic main-line infantry. Greenskin (not black orc spam), Beastmen, and Chaos Marauders are low tier armies that are useless due to the under performance of their core units relying so heavily on crutches since around 70% of the army will not do anything aside from dying.
Gors, Marauders, boyz, etc. should die, but they should do a lot more damage than they do and make a contribution that you actually have to think about and plan for.
I'm not sure what the answer is but hordes need something like 8th ed to help them out in TWW, Aspiring Champs were a good start and marauder builds were able to do something for the first time.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=831679533
Reminder to culturally enrich this general with my mod.
>>166398481
This is why the Badlands need the Wood Elfs.
The orcs are just savage and killing each other.
I propose Durthu should gather an army and head into the Badlands.
>February 28, 2017
Oh come the fuck on. Well, guess I'll be taking a break until then.
>>166400426
Durthu will invade everywhere eventually. Fuck bastards always take over half the planet before I smack them down when I play orcs.
>>166400681
Whats the sauce on that?
>>166400762
that was the given release date for the old world addition when it was originally announced, anon is implying that we won't get brettonia until old world edition is launched, which seems likely based on CA's silence
>bought civ vi when it came out
>only 56 hours played on it
>bought shogun 2 during winter sale
>almost 100 hours played on it
>>166400889
On all the official channels I see FEB 2017, which yes that was thrown out there when that was announced. But where did the 28 come from.
>>166401080
If you do a google 'shopping' search for the old world edition most store sites are giving the release as the 28th.
>>166401080
Friend of mine manages a Gamestop, said street date is the 28th, they'll be getting them in the next ~3 weeks.
Why CA decided to hold Bretonnia hostage for this is beyond me. What a stupid fucking idea.
>>166400681
>cut off the grave guard looking back
Bad cover.
>>166400681
Anyone up for a wood elf mod just like my empire one?
>>166401702
>game is about bretonnia being launched
>wanting a photobombing skelly.
>>166401949
But muh Mousillon
>>166402047
it will come soon.
Here's the plan.
Instead of building wide to survive as the woodelves. You can build tall for more building slots.
>>166401646
>>166401689
Ok, thanks. Last Tuesday possible which is kind of to be expected with a major release honestly.
Holding Brets back for that release make sense because it builds hype for the release, also that means the Bret patch and the OW balance patch is the same.
It will be fun to read through what is going into this patch.
>>166395485
>Skaven having more than 120 units on large
Yeah I don't think so retard
>>166396131
>turns until available: 4294967259
Listen now, let me tell you about Saladin.
>>166402495
A Skaven can shove 100 dudes in a block for less than a vampire lord in a TT game. If the numbers game still sucks that entire faction will be shit and not work.
Same reason beastmen don't work now and Greenies rely on black orc crutches.
Is there any attila mod that turns the "Nordic Heavy Marauder" unit into a land unit? I like the way the unit looks, the Viking Raiders look like shit compared to it.
>>166401949
The way I see it, it could just add more effects to the already existing buildings
>muh bretonnia
who GIVES a fuck about Empire 2: Electric Boogaloo feat. more Knights and worstelf cuckry
where are the god damnbest elves
>>166403919
>wanting mary sue elves
fuck off
Oh damn son this building is legit
>>166402495
>>Skaven having more than 120 units on large
>Yeah I don't think so retard
why is this a bad thing for skaven?
>>166403919
WHERE ISNAGASH
>>166400681
Any idea how much it's going to cost and will it include all the DLC?
>>166404236
Only FLCs are included
>>166404030
>Rib Peaks
Today I have learned a very valuable lesson. Alliances suck major dick. Your allies WILL declare war on each other and WILL make you untrustworthy, which will fuck up your diplomacy towards everyone, no matter what.
>>166404473
Just like having friends in real life, huh?
>>166404636
WAIT THERE'S MOREand an exclusive novella, ‘The Prince of Altdorf’ by Total War Writer Andy Hall.
Alright folks, rate my kingdom
Operation: WE wuz a massive success, and we are now rolling in money after consolidating the former egyptian territories, with aegyptos itself making us over 13k per turn even with corruption at around 60%. Currently working on taking over the rest of asia minor.
Baktria, the 2 remaining steppe factions, and knossos are all satrapies, meaning that the east is locked down, and the mediterranean is safe thanks to the cretans + my military alliance with the hellenic league. (unfortunately I can't levy cretan archers in dei, thinking about getting a submod to allow it but i don't know how badly it screws up the reforms)
As for trade I'm currently sending a fleet out towards spain/up to britain to look for trading partners, hopefully rome hasn't blobbed up too badly in barbarland
My faction leader who has overseen this massive expansion is an 80 year old king who has served with his men in the frontlines for almost 60 years, fighting on foot in a phalanx in 3 different continents
>>166403219
weaker units aren't just there for the one on one.
The good thing about weaker low leadership troops is that even if they break they'll probably rally with 50% of their health left.
increases their mobility and adds a wave mechanic of getting several charges in especially if you do have a dependible core to hold the enemy main line in place.
after playing skarsniks campaign and some online battles i have new respect for goblin units.
>>166405457
>not wanting Rome to be a giant blob so there is any challenge at all in the end game
I once saw somewhere that you could attack a tribe you awakened as chaos to make them vassals and get some income, is it still possible? Is there any downside?
>wake up
>still no MKTW campaign
>>166405028
Is that the same author who wrote that awful novel that came with rome 2?
>>166406329
he didn't work for ca then
>>166405646
If a unit is routing its not doing anything for you. That unit isn't fighting in the mosh pit, its not flanking your enemy, its not contributing. When your unit routes I now have another resource to shore up another front of the fight and if I have a cheap fast attacker they get free kills as your units as they just get eaten. And with those armies there is no "dependable core" those guys running away in the first 3 minutes were that core.
Weaker units are to hold shit down as long as they can for the big boyz to do the smashing. But if they can't achieve good combat with another low-tier unit, they won't have a prayer holding for long against something scarier long enough to pay off.
Should they do fantastic, no, but they need to do their job better than the current state.
>>166396131
GOBLIN'D
>>166405457
What mod is that?
>>166406742
Dei
>>166406618
>you will never be a GOBBO
Feels bad dudes
>>166405457
>allowing baktria to live
They're just gonna stab you in the back.
>>166407018
>wanting to be the most widely regarded as useless and expendable creature since zombies
why
HAHA!!
I'VE SEEN ENOUGH!!
>>166407520
aka. "We will only resume working on summer"
kek, never ever
>>166407520
>So yeah, September 2017.
>December maybe
>>166406571
If a unit is unengaged in the late game it adds ton of flexibility to the engagement.
Also goblins are meant to die early on you have them as missile shields and then meat shields while you mix them in with black orcs so that the enemy targets the goblins and not the black orcs.
Eventually the goblins flee combat and the black orcs keep the fight together,
Now the goblins rally and are now free to harass the back lines and go for a rear charge.
If you don't understand how a routing and rally can be a good thing then you're not a master of strategy.
I wouldn't just use goblins, but I recognize their strengths.
>>166406571
>no "dependable core" those guys running away in the first 3 minutes were that core.
Black orks, Giant Spiders. etc.
>>166407145
Because i want to STAB
>>166405705
I'm more hoping there are enough small factions left for me to sell goods to
>>166407130
nah, I literally saved them from the seleucid satrap gang-bang that is 1.2, plus I have defended them on multiple occasions when the saka (who i had nap/trade with) kept declaring war on them. In exchange for keeping them alive and subjugated I get ~3000gpt that is unaffected by corruption in the form of tribute/trade
>>166408360
>Confident / Unreliable
>>166408360
>Confident/Unreliable
They're going to fuck you. Never trust a Greek.
Damn how have I not heard of this guy until now?
>Kills a gallic king in single combat during battle
>One of the only romans to win the spolia opima
>Btfos Syracusans during 2nd Punic War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Claudius_Marcellus
>Ignoring the +230 relations
Its not like this is shogun 2
>>166409740
meant for
>>166408863
>>166409605
I'm thinking of applying for the Gunnery School of Nuln.
I kinda want to be a Helstorm rocket operator.
>>166410215
>imperial gunnery school
Anon, I...
I don't know how to tell you this.
Are your personal effects in order? Did you tell your wife and children that you loved them very much before you applied for a position?
>>166410215
Can't always get what you want, free company.
>>166410215
DAT BULGE
>>166410215
trust me kid - you want to man a hellblaster. Not only is it infinitely cooler than anything else the empire or even the dwarfs has, it never ever gets used so you don't even have to worry about getting killed in action.
>>166411028
I laughed at that last bit.
helblaster sounds fucking cool when it fires.
>>166411028
Isn't a helblaster pretty much just like a puckle gun?
How are you supposed to use those things, anyway?
>>166391796
>Europa Barbaorum action brief
wtf is this real?
>>166410439
>tfw too intelligent to be a frontline grunt
>>166411028
>>166411445
>>166411445
>tfw too intelligent to ever see use
>>166404236
Full price $60 USD, only FDLC included. You also get some novella called the Prince of Altdorf.
It's really just an excuse to re-launch the game, get it's name back out there.
I haven't been here since Rome 2.
Has Creative Assembly got a new Total war in production? One that isn't Warhammer DLC?
is this any good ?
What kind of rumor could possibly justify spending 257k to quell? This guy is a fucking legend - he is responsible for ethiopia growing from one shithole city in the desert to now being the largest empire the world has ever seen - and unlike alexander he didn't have his daddy pre-assemble an army for him. For fucks sake this guy conquered half the known world without even getting on a horse once! Now he gets back to his capital to spend his last remaining days with his family and some chucklefuck decides to launch history's first smear campaign, claiming that he likes to get fucked by elephants or some other ridiculous lie.
60 years of military service, and this is how they repay you
>>166412429
Yes, an announced historical title. It is supposed to be a time period they haven't done before, but nobody knows what exactly
>>166412625
>historical title
Mild hype.
Rolling for 30 years war, shit would be cash
>>166403316
Thank
>>166412506
>Spartans in late antiquity
>Lorica segmentata in late antiquity
>>166412625
>It is supposed to be a time period they haven't done before, but nobody knows what exactly
what could that even be ? ww1 or ww2 right, they have done everything else
i'm not too hyped for it t b h but we'll see
>>166413110
>ww1 or ww2 right
Nope.
>>166413005
you know any good big overhaul mods for attila ?
>>166412506
It's a silly fun mod. The worst thing about it is that it is in beta. Not enough stuff.
Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.They do anything official for Bretonnia yet?
>>166413234
Fall of the Eagles
Its not complete yet tho, the nordic factions still need work
>>166413110
Could me many things. Rise of Islam, Biblical times, Victorian era, 30 years war, etc...
Hell it could even be something in China.
>>166413110
>ww1 or ww2
I really, really hate this meme. Sega already has a WW2 strategy game, CoH, and the idea of a total war game set in modern times makes no fucking sense.
>>166413370
Nope, nothing new since the festag stuff
What's the best mod that makes Empire not a bug-addled mess?
>>166414063
Napoleon Total War
>>166414063
Napoleon
>>166413110
Total war 10000BC
Sabertooth cavalry confirmed already
>>166394598
>War, Dawi
>It's just a grudge away
Starts playing.
>>166414036Fuck
>>166414213
>>166414243
Yeah but that makes you feel like you're on a set path. Empire makes you feel like you can do whatever you please.
>>166413110
They haven't done the early modern era, right?
You know, English civil war, 30 year war kind of thing.
It would be interesting because it had canon, cavalry and infantry that actually fight with pikes still.
>>166413110
If it's one of the ww, how are planes gonna work in the battle?
>>166414628
That's not even the biggest problem with it's going to keep looking like total war.
>>166414628
Spells.
>>166414628
I would imagine like naval bombardment in FOTS.
WW1 is probably doable, but WW2 would be breaking that mould entirely. I don't think WW2 would be easily possible.
Anyone remember Thera? What a cool mod. I was daydreaming at work today about making something similar in Warscape. Would that be cool or has Warhammer taken the fantasy mantle and there'd be no demand for it?
>>166394598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh_FGfWhwEs
>>166393863
Gausser is probably the most cucked of all current elector counts.
Cucked by elves.
Cucked by Marienburgers.
Cucked by the Grand Patriarch.
And, of course, cucked by Norscans (although not as bad as Ostland was).
Why are Ashigaru so OP in spear wall?
Is there even any need to get expensive units when these guys can hold against almost anything.
>>166415878
The spear wall throws the enemy's charge bonus back at them.
>>166415209
Warhammer is a pile of minimal-effort shit. Fanboys get so excited over seeing their favorite factions or units or characters they don't realize there's no fucking depth to the game at all. CA even managed to exclude and then make people pay for whole chunks of factions they already bought in the base game.
We got a stripped down shell of a game with a fantasy skin taped to it.
Good luck modifying the map though.
>>166411732
>re-launch the game, get it's name back out there
for what purpose? shit was in steams 10 highest grossing titles of 2016. how much is a fucking physical relaunch going to help them?
>>166416072
Same thing with Rome 2's Emperor Edition and all those "Game of the Year" editions you see everywhere
>>166416072
It's probably to trick all the 'I'm waiting for the GOTY edition to buy it' retards who don't seem to understand that you can just get the game without purchasing any DLC
>Really like Chaos roster.
>Really dislike horde mechanics.
Can someone redpill me on naval units of attila? What's the point of them being so good at land if i'm almost never able to use them?
>>166416750
>he doesn't disembark his navel units
>>166416935
But i mostly fight land battles lad, how am i supposed to take my Nordic Marauders to the middle of France if the game does not allow these units to move through rivers or land?
>>166416935
Or his naval units.
>>166416072
It resets the bad reviews on Steam
>>166413110
>~300BC-800AD
Covered by Rome, Rome 2, Attila, and expansions.
>800AD-1066AD
Blank space, although extremely unlikely after R2 and Attila.
>1066AD-1500AD
Covered by Medieval 1&2.
>1500AD-1700AD
Covered by Shogun 2. Still, highly likely to be the setting for the new game in the European theater.
>1700AD-1815AD
Covered by Empire and Napoleon.
>1815AD-1860AD
Not covered, but too similar to previous titles to really warrant a new game.
>1860AD onwards
Second probable time period for a Victorian total war with steady modernization, possibly up to the early 20th century.
>>166417249
I'm drunk and I fucked up. 1860 was supposed to say FotS with ~1870 onwards being the final category.
This is strictly based on the "time period not covered before" comment; the only two options are 16th century and late 19th century.
>>166416935
a lot of them literally can't board its hilarious
Fuck Pootrokles and fuck greek people
>>166417249
>800AD-1066AD
>Blank space
Viking Invasion
>>166417938
>>166416004
Modifying the map is impossible or at the very least not worth the effort. I figure the standard Attila map will accommodate a mix of real world and fantasy factions.
I want to be dominated by a best elf!
>>166418415
Eventually we just have to have patience.
>>166403919
If the DLC/Expansion datamining is as accurate as it has been High elves will probably be here in a few months. Im wondering if they'll re add sea battles in the first big expansion
>>166404095
NAGASH IS WEAK
>>166417105
You're not supposed to use them on land.
You might've noticed there's quite a bit of a long coastline situation going on in europe and the Mediterranean.
>>166420164
Yes, i noticed but i just with i could use the Danish Chosen Marauders on land, i mean, it's their only unique unit for fuck sake. Same with the royal saxon marines.
>>166420421
>Royal Saxon Marines
sounds like some radious mod bullshit ngl
>>166420612
They're in vanilla actually, the last saxon unit to be unlocked via tech, it can destroy most land units fairly easy.
>>166420421
You're going about it wrong. You want good unique units on land because you prefer land battles(what with TW titles history I completely get).
The Danes deal is they got these uber good naval infantry that you're supposed to sail around looting mad cash from the rich factions in the south that even if they're way bigger than you can't really retaliate to your raids cause you're so far away and isolated.
>>166416680
you know that the "Old World Edition" has none (0) of the DLC included, right?
It's the exact same game repackaged with a book
>>166420421
you are supposed to take your doomfleets and go fuck up enemy coastal settlements for mad dosh.
Take a couple artillery ships to take out towers, some bow ships to meme on the ai with their infinite ammo, and some melee ships to skullfuck the enemy garrison on land, and you can make some sweet money doing so.
The only problem is that your units will get brutalized by enemy garrison scout cav because of the impact damage meme
>>166410647
>whip out dick
>swab and prime for ignition
>aim and prepare to fire
>roll for misfire
>dick explodes, taking out legs and half of Company C
>>166416736
You mean
>really bad at horde mechanics
You were probably one of the ones complaining WELFs were underpowered when they were first released
>>166421289
>"If you don't enjoy suicide inducing tedium then you must be bad at video games"
>romans hit imperial reforms
>have seemingly blobbed up into all of gaul
final boss confirmed
What sea? What ships? The fuck is going on here
i fucking hate elves.
>>166421686
and the same year, my faction leader since the beginning of the campaign passes in his sleep in the capital at age 84
>>166421759
just a random flavor event, because CA is too lazy to add actual naval content. See also: Jabberslythe attack
>>166421889
Alliances don't matter for relation modifiers Anon.
Just because they're allied with Angrund doesn't mean they can't have a relation score with them that's below zero.
They start out as allies so it's not like they ever need to be good friends for the alliance to exist
orcs pls go
>>166421686
>in imperial era
>STILL using camillan units
what
>>166422450
pls
>>166421759
You have Barak Varr. Thats a dwarf harbor. So pirates.
How do I fuck up other families besides
-ASSasination
-rumors
-prevent their adoption
-adopt one of their members
>>166423407
Make them generals and then send them on a suicide mission.
>>166414482
>Occasionally comes back to life to tell the rabid frothing peasants to shut up and calm the hell down.
>this is canon.
>>166423667
And what if my family's generals are very successful?
>>166417249
They could do something like India total war, or Africa or some shit.
Like just throw everyone off.
>Three kingdoms total war
>Any of early china's conflicts
never forget
>this week wasn't the week
>this camel highway
>>166413110
Total War: Cavemans
>use spears and shit
>throw rocks
>make fire
>invent useful rock tools like an axe or an ass-scratcher
>dinosaurs fucking everywhere
>dinosaur cavalry
>obsidian sword cavemans RoR DLC 9.99 USD
>Mastodon Unit packs
>Unlock Gigantoplethicus FLC after 5,000,000 sales
>play as blue dinosaurs for 25.00 USD + tip
>play as green dinosaurs for another 25.00 USD + gratuity
>Dinoblood + other special effects 4.99 USD
>p.s. the DLC will literally NEVER go on sale
>>166404030
That plus + Grombrindals blue tree +3 to all recruited units = 3 gold chevrons on all artillery.
Dwarf campaign is best campaign.
>>166425137
>Dinosaurs and cavemen
Obligatory
> (you)
>>166424429
i-isn't the news not due until tomorrow?
>>166425369
>he doesn't enjoy flintstonepunk
>>166425137
Dinosaur Cavalry (Dismounted)
>>166425137
>>obsidian sword cavemans RoR DLC 9.99 USD
>>Mastodon Unit packs
>>Unlock Gigantoplethicus FLC after 5,000,000 sales
>>play as blue dinosaurs for 25.00 USD + tip
>>play as green dinosaurs for another 25.00 USD + gratuity
>>Dinoblood + other special effects 4.99 USD
>>p.s. the DLC will literally NEVER go on sale
>>166425845
I am completely incapable of making my own decisions, someone post the Attila roll chart.
Total War: Race war when?
>>166425137
>bitching about the DLC when we got the Guy With Wheel lord pack for free
CA just can't win with you guys. I bet you also left bad reviews despite having over 500 hours played.
>>166426115Mastodon Obsidian Cataphract Archers
>>166426158
You will play Tanukhids.
>>166426158
Found it myselfI don't own meme vikings so rerolling
Pyrrhic victory I had a couple days ago fighting for control of southern greece
my cav got decimated fighting on rough terrain plus the arab cav weren't used to the unfamilar territory
all 300 of them routed with heavy casualties, had the remaining infantry (around 2200) hold firm against the rocks
macedonians pushed in hard in the center, left held fine, right side needed multiple counterattacks, very brutal fight
anybody have night/dark pics with point light sources?
>>166426812
Praise Tengri
>>166406129
>wake up
There's your problem right there.
>>166414036
WW1 would work just fine you fucking knob.
>it's a chaos is actually a threat this time episode
>>166427009
ROMA INVICTA
>>166417249
>1815AD-1860AD
>1860AD onwards
My personal hope is it'll start around 1850. I know FoTS takes place around this time but I don't think the 'never seen before' is going to be that hard and fast of a rule for them. Especially considering that Shogun 2 is very narrow in focus and that the unknown historical title is going to be, according them, very ambitious in scope.
But 1850 - 1910 is really interesting time in world history.
>Birth of Communism
>Rise of USA as a global power; manifest destiny
>US Civil War
>Crimean War
>European Imperialism in Africa/India/China
>Japan emerging on the world stage
>First modern Olympic games
>Suez Canal
>Motion pictures, light bulbs, the telegraph, propagation of rail travel
Among a lot of other shit. It be great period to cover, but the scope would need to be huge.
Garamantians aren't very fun to play.
>>166429185
what's with the horde growth bonuses for them anyway? is that a glitch or am i missing something?
>>166428706
>It's a "chaos is actually a threat this time" episode with Wood Elf cameo becoming permanent.
>>166429025
Don't give the olympic garbage any attention.
>>166429025
I still don't see how this works, line infantry became obsolete by the latter quarter of the 19th century. Unless CA is going to go balls out of control and wildly change the formula this wont happen. 1870 is the absolute latest the series can go without become absurd.
>>166429313
I don't know. I don't see an option to become a horde.
>>166423821
Raise a new army of just enemy family generals unit and have them go attack an enemy. Alternatively replace one of your generals and suicide the enemy family general in an easy battle.
>tfw you focus so much on prosperity and economy you fail to realize France has been having a field day on Europe
>>166431943
is there a mod to autoresolve quest battles yet? getting real tired of having to replay this shit
>>166431943
SAVE THE PRUSSIANS
>>166431943
>>166421654
>It's tedious because I'm stupid
>ally with wood elves
>they go about settling provinces you're trying to inhabit
>>166431943
Fucking Perfidious Albion
>>166438378
never trust elves.
The worst bit. is that their trade post is useless as fuck.
/r/ing Gonna Stab
Can a lore fag gimmie a summary of the border princes? From what i understand theyre self governing states made from mercenary bands and warlords. Basically a warhammer wild west town yes or no?
>>166407145
Because I'll get to hang out with SKARSNIK, WARLORD UV EIGHT PEAKS
>>166439443
Pretty much. That area of the world is so overrun with big nasties and orcs that towns get wiped out and resettled all the time, and no unified nation state can really form. though they needed to for the game of course
>>166439443
Yes. Though less wild west and more backwater Crusader states. Lords with a castle somewhere where land value is literally dirt. Just so they can rule something. The land isn't at all desirable and nobody makes a real effort to do anything beyond survive.
>>166440042
The gobbos call it the city of pillars. Please do not use stuntiespeak.
>>166440598
And Skarsnik literally calls himself "Skarsnik, Warlord uv Eight Peaks" in game. I will not disrespect him and his self-appointed title by calling him "Skarsnik, Warlord of the city of pillars".
>>166439443
lots of small independent towns lots of freemen and discredited nobles and retainers. Lots of ruins of past civilizations. some older. than others a lot more recent.
>>166440598
more like city of shit pillars lmeo
>>166440229
>>166440503
sorry for more ignorant questions but were they in the tabletop game or just a lore footnote?
and can you see them being added to the game as playable or do you suspect theyll just remain empire knockoffs for the series?
>>166440962
There were only the army books of the main 15 factions.
No humans but Empire and Bretonnia had army books.
There was a Dogs of War supplement which featured mercenary units from Tilea and Estalia though. And I think Kislev has some really old rules from a supplement.
So lore footnote pretty much.
Kislev has the most chance of being playable by far.
Estalia have conquistadors in Lustria so they're next in importance.
Tilea is just mercenaries and Inquisitors.
Border Princes are literally who?
Just killed Rotgut, how long are the AI's lords out for? I want to confederate with them and I want Rotgut to be my bitch.
>>166441178
Don't forget Araby!
>>166441414
PARDON ME.
ARABAY WAS CRUSADED AGAINST BY THE HUMANS NORTH OF IT A FEW TIMES.
I'M NOT SURE FOR WHAT REASON THOUGH.
THE RED DUKE GOT VAMPIRISM WHEN HE ALMOST DIED DOWN THERE I THINK.
ALSO THEY'RE STILL TECHNICALLY HUMAN.
AND THEY'RE THE BEST FACTION
THEY'RE
THE
KANGZ
>>166441681
PARDON ME, THIS POST WAS INTENDED TO WRAP UP THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE OTHER HUMAN FACTIONS.
THERE WAS MEANT TO BE A BREAK BETWEEN DESCRIBING SEPERATE FACTIONS, NOT TO IMPLY THOSE IN ARABAY ARE THE KANGZ.
>>166441681
>K*NGZ
Sultans, you kafir
>>166441681
Araby invaded Estalia and did shit so gruesome that even made Bretonnian knights feel bad for their peasants. So Bretonnia got all chivalrous up in that ass
>>166441806
PARDON ME, MY EXPLANATION WAS TOO LATE. MY MOST SINCERE APOLOGIES.
>>166441960
Alright, fair enough. What's the schtick to drive them to unwarranted aggression and brutality?
They're not (at least the majority) not chaos worshipers as far as I remember. I want to say they're lead by generically evil wizards. That sounds stereotypical enough for GW to have written.
>>166442068
Evil sultan got uppity. The Empire also got involved in removing kebab, these conflicts were actually the origin of the Knights Panther, which are probably going to show up sometime in the future.
here's a wiki for it, but it's been so long I don't remember if everything is correct.
http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Crusade_Against_Araby
Oh
My
FuckI owe these barbarians nothing, and I'll be removing myself from an entrenched and fortified position if I deem to help them.
But can I let the Hun menace claim yet another city? Sack another town? Make more orphans? Break more families?
Wat do /twg/?
>>166442672
Flip a coin, drink some wine.
>>166440962
they're used as settings in some novels.
Honestly in the game the border princes shouldn't even be unified. they should all be their own separate mini state. since essentially every town is roughly independent.
I doubt they'd be added. but i'd be interested if they did something with the southern states.
>>166442672
Fight the Huns, be the army of justice
Then make them help you out afterwards
>>166442324
>Sultan Jaffar
I knew there was a massive stereotype in there somewhere.
Skaven manipulation is decent enough of a reason I suppose.
iirc the Skaven have a fairly large presence there.
>>166442832
Now I want an MMO like Haven & Hearth. Where you start from literally nothing and try to build a community. Around you lies the ruins of all who had failed before you.
It practically is just H&H already. You just replace the hordes of marauding Russians with Orcs/Skaven/Independent Vampires/Other settlements/Norscan raiders.
>>166442672
Remove invaders
If not you then who?
>>166442838
Fuck it, the urge to plant and save is what separates us from the Devil Dogs.
Heaven or Hell, let's rock.
>>166391957
BAD VLAD YES
Here's the arabian army from a larger scale wargame that they had briefly.
things to note
>Camel gunner
>Armored elephant with massive howdah.
>camel cavalry
>Magic carpet air skirmishers.
>>166443196
Here's our vitriolic allies token force.
The long winter nights guarding against an approaching nightmare have taken their toll.
Were we not to intervene, they wouldn't stand a Seleucid chance.
>>166410215
>tfw to intelligent to attend the gun school of nulnery and conscript myself to be a spearman instead
>>166391957
lets see
>>166443505
Why does nothing this fun happen whenever I play?
>>166443505
And an aerial view as well, there are three Hun hordes coming. If my ally can hold the center for a significant amount of time, then I can flank the Horselords and drive them from the ice.
Otherwise the battle could turn into an incredibly destructive and disastrous chaos, wherein none of my armies can meaningfully cooperate and sync together, then we are ground beneath the snow and arrow.
>>166443591
You rolled well, Hitler.
>>166443615
You either play on easy, or play too successfully my mang.
There are advantages to being a shitter like me.
>>166443749
The one advantage this insignificant German tribe has, aside from their righteous Christianity, is the fact that almost all their infantry are Germanic Spearmasters.
No better counter to what is coming. Though they cannot counter it alone.
>>166444042
Well.
Here we go.
>>166444042
I play on VH/N. I play fairly conservatively, but not really successfully. I'll savescum to avoid a Varg stack that teleported out of nowhere to raze six settlements they shouldn't even know exist but otherwise take my losses.
And I just don't come up to cool scenarios like that.
>>166444161
well you out flanked him at least.
>>166444243
Luckily for us, we march in only from one corner, I feared a three way split that would be an absolute hell to micro.
Meanwhile our Barbarian allies are making a few... Challenging decisions.
>>166444461
Germans are not known for successful defenses, and so when the enemy marches to them, they are keen to march right against them.
A few hopelessly outnumbered horse skirmishers try to catch and counter the early volleys of horse archer shitter tactics. Meanwhile, the Spearmasters are not keen at all about hiding behind those walls.
>>166444609
Spearmasters charge against the Hunnic First Wave Lancers, defiant and furious despite living off of snow and faith for the entire season.
Lancers don't pull off their charge, they get pulled into a brawl.
>>166444732
My ally a baka
>>166445327
They don't realize that they aren't alone. They're throwing their lives away. They need hope if they are to preserve themselves.
>>166445327
Help them anyways their fortification will be useful. You could use those towers.
>>166444235
>normal
There's youe problem
>>166445496
>>166445536
I'll need to hurry, they are so outmatched and it is only getting
>>166445708
Has zero effect on waddling into battles like these, only how the battles go.
>>166445737
worse.
>>166413110
3 Kingdoms or Han dynasty Total War
>>166445830
It's hilarious, due to some glitch in my mod list, I often end up with enemy generals with literally only one unit, but enough health to be able to tank archer volleys and take 50 heavy troopers all by themselves.
Now, adding to the whole cinematic story of the thing, my allies desperate blood covered general 1v1's theirs.
Even a Barbarian dreams of home, but his was razed three provinces away. Now, as everything goes dire, and one of the Devil's leaders aims for his head, only here can he feel any form of peace.
>>166445991
>It's hilarious, due to some glitch in my mod list, I often end up with enemy generals with literally only one unit, but enough health to be able to tank archer volleys and take 50 heavy troopers all by themselves.
Ah so that's how they made heroes in total war warhammer
>>166446132
>>166445991
Place your bets /twg/
Chances are if anyone lives it will be this guy.
If he can slay their general. Here and now.
>>166446263
I'm betting on the hun
>>166443415
I do hope they add these guys as a playable faction. I wouldn't even care if they had a limited rooster I just want to play as some Kushan looking mother fuckers.
>>166445769
You take fewer losses and lose fewer battles so it ends up being a steamroll.
>>166446263
Kill the filthy hun
>>166446332
ROGUE ARROW FUCKING FLOORS HUN
GG NO BLOWS. TEAMKILLING FUCKTARDS.
LIVE BY THE BOW. DIE BY THE ARROW.
>>166446352
in a more recent game dreadfleet they gave araby a ship
>>166446416
The arrow fire meant for him, takes their leader. The Huns appetite for destruction eat their own.
But not without taking a few friends first.
>>166446416
Aw that's the gayest way for that to end.
>>166446520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFi7bWkyRpA
>>166446530
Some monsters don't deserve a duel.
Hoisted by their own petard, die by your own method.
Arrows care not where they land.
>>166446716
With the death of their Leader, the Hun filth are halted in their first advance by the distraction of one man. Dismayed by how their reckless actions have caused unintended consequences.
Today, I will remind them.
>>166446886
>so long as one man stands against you...
>>166446378
Still does not account for situations such as these, which could be the opening engagement.
>>166447009
>You cannot win.I'm so in love with this scene, I am reluctant to unpause and actually fight the battle.mfw Rome about to go full Rohan
>>166447191
FORTH EORLINGAS!
>>166447191
>tfw fantasy can never be this interesting
keep up the good work my man
>>166447343
>>166447282
>>166447343
This picture shows a thousand horsemen running away to regroup from the one man.
>>166447579
WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO LIVE FOREVER?
>>166447689
>Guard your women and children well,
>Send these bastards back to hell
>We'll teach them the ways of war, they won't come here any more
>Use your shield and use your head
>Fight 'til every one is dead
>Raise the flag up to the sky,
>How many of them can we make die?
>>166446437
Now we just need to hope CA will add in naval battles.
>>166447808
>PICK YOURSELVES OFF THE GROUND
>HURRY BACK
>TELL YOUR LEADER
>YOU'LL NEED MORE MEN
>>166447912
They left, leaving three behind to make sure the job was done.
>>166407520
Lel! I knew this was coming when they only released a custom battle mod last year. All that feature creep and wanting to hold off.
Maybe we can cobble together a simple campaign submod for this and not have those units go to waste.
>>166448059
Forgot pick.
He nailed one, then was sent flying when the weight of the charge came hard and fast.
>>166448172
>mfw Huns shoot themselves
Is Clan Angrund the best campaign if you love dwarves? I did a regular Thorgrim campaign, and it was fun and all. But Belegar and Angrund was fucking awesome. I was lurking here in the threads and got some sage advice: people here kept insisting on the genocide of elves.
>spend first few turns as Angrund solidifying the Vaults and the zone above it
>try to ally with all neihbors, but elves drag me into BS war with their rivals & bret shitter kingdoms
>declar war on the elves, spend the next 40 turns leveling up as i loot, then raze every elf settlement
>belegar is level 25 and im rich, with pretty much no threats left near me (only friendly dwarfs and pussy as tilea/estalia)
However the world was pretty fucked up at this point. Empire was reduced to just altdorf, marienburg was allied with the secessionists. Kislev and Ostland were the major powers, with Wissenland being their rival. VC was strong as always because nobody was opposing them.
>after cucking elves, mobilize Belegar and make a sprint past The Silver Road to Karak 8 Peaks
>Dwarves are getting BTFO, losing home province to unchecked Greenskins
>Thorgrim dies, but I confederate the main dwarfs, consolidate their resources, and steamroll the fucking Greenskins
Shit is awesome, I've restored balance to the world so far. Reclaimed Karak 8, got that shitty penalty off, Empire is beefy again and controls many provinces and is my ally, Greenskins are almost wiped out and VC is powerful but about to get invaded the fuck out of
Chaos can do whatever they want in the North, Angrund feels immune to that BS. As empire i was constantly worried about fortifying my shit for chaos invasions, dwarfs is isolationist to the extreme. Theres so many factions with all the DLC tho, i felt early game there were too many factions. Who else had a /funtimes/ with Angrund? Who should I play next? Have done Empire & Dwarves so far, have all DLC except for the mememen
>>166444235
>>166444235
>varg stack
well you see the problem is that you're playing warhammer and cool shit like that cannot happen. You'd think it would be more common with how small the campaign map is to get caught up in battles as reinforcements but nope.
Also no battle maps other than just plains and forests really sucks ass
>>166448331
>Hey Denver
>I didn't hear no bell
>>166448389I cannot tell you enough how much of a disappointment Warhammer was. It's maps are easily the biggest failure for me. We could have had glorious Dwarfen labyrinths, Imperial city streets, different types of Chaos wastes. Fucking SOMETHING. Horrendous.
>>166448560
Garrisons down to a few stubborn dozen Germans getting mowed to shreds, but killing any Hun stupid enough to get too close. All is irrelevant before three thousand arrows however.
And that would have been the case, but in the distance, a horn not heard in this part of the world for centuries is called...
>>166448560
For me, the main problem with warhammer maps is
>another fucking forest map
I fucking hate when every fucking time the forest has to cover 60+% j=of the map.
>>166448745
>when even in High Fantasy, you can't escape forest maps
In 31 hours of play, I only have two memorable battles. Even fucking Empire had more mileage than that.
>>166448695
>when you realize the Hun have nothing, nothing, beyond their own hatred for anything alien or on the other side.
>in a heartbeat they would sacrifice a hundred of their own two kill ten of you, firing arrows even on their front charges as they are so absolutely determined to kill, destroy, defile the enemy
>not because they hate those who wish to destroy what they build, but because they are jealous of any who can build at all
>>166449052
>tfw*"to" fuck me
>>166449202
As seen here
>>166449308
State of the battle as of now.
The initial quick wipe I feared was averted, even though the defense has been and still is being shot to absolute shit, thanks to the Roderick Rampage and a few hundred determined Spearmasters, the watchtowers remain standing.
>>166449527
However, even the enraged Germans are forced back into their holds. As a far harder threat emerges.
>>166449598
Hun infantry, for when the defenders remain true and the horses are failing.
Whilst mostly levy's from conquered peoples, there are some heavy infantry interspersed among the throng. Besides, they are all fresh.
>>166449674
Huns stole my pic
>>166413110
Ming/Han Dynasty China
Victorian Total War
Viking Total War
Empire Total War using the current engine
MAYBE WW1
thats about it.
>>166449773
But today, Hope does not ride alone.
>>166449890
AND THE SUN RISES
>>166449989
Too late to relieve our brave ally.
>>166450128
Never too late to avenge him.
>>166449890
Does having artillery in your army still make the enemy bumrush you regardless of how badly they'll get fucked?
>>166450227
Right, final contribution for the ally.
More than a thousand dead Huns.
Considering they had nothing but a skeleton garrison, and surrounded on all sides, I think they did more than their fair share for defending Civilization today.
>>166450285Yep, of course if they have higher priorities like taking the fort, than they actually grow a brain.
This is going to be interesting.
>>166450336
Hun filth gloat over the corpses of fallen heroes. Knowing that without them, the city they had been trying to spare the carnage is within their grasp to smash.
>>166450535
Considering the huns ruined their homelands I think those soldiers could rest in peace knowing what vengence they wrought on the hun
>>166450535
Unless something smashes them back...
>>166448389
Varg in warhammer is an example. I've played since Medieval and still have experienced probably nothing as campaign thematic as that battle. I've done my share of miraculous defences and amazing last stands when I can set them up, but the only ally interaction I can remember on the battlefield is shit like
>Would you like to assist Venice's stack of 20 spearmen fight six sicilian spearmen.
>>166450630
That ain't a horizon you're looking at boys.
>>166450693
It's a really, really pissed off Roman army.
The Empire is back horsefuckers.
>>166450797
WHOSE DYING NOW?
>>166448349
Glad you're having fun. Angrund certainly feel unique and is a lot better than the base stunties.
I hate stunties so I can't really empathize though.
I'd say Bretonnia will be a cool campaign when they come out, but you need something to do inbetween then and now. And Bretonnia following Angrund is pretty West-centric.
So give VC or Greenskins a go to be on the East side of the map.
Greenskins roster is really fun, nothing is really broken and you generally have to actually think, especially compared to stunties.
VC are really strong right now and cool if you want to crank up the difficulty and steamroll.
Can also use that power to blitz up to Kislev early and be the frontline against Chaos, as you didn't interact with them in your last game.
Beastmen are surprisingly good on the campaign, their invisible encampment and offensive ambush are both really fun, and while their units are very samey, they're still satisfying to use.
>>166450227
0/10, mission failed, see me after class
Just got Napoleon what faction should I play?
>>166451112
When Romans hit, they hit hard.
Centuries of disintegration, of barely being able to afford one legion to defend our borders, let alone set it on campaign.
No longer.
>>166451486
Austria
>>166451646
Even tier 3 Hun infantry doesn't have a hope in the hellfire awaiting them against Romans in their natural element.
They retreat from all the ground hard won, to begin their classic woman's stratagem.
>>166451727
We skirmish, all across the playing field. Driving them further and further into the maps edge. Reinforcements from numbers so high keep the armies battling on.
All the way to their artillery, and beyond even that.
>>166451827
Until even this shadow must past.
>>166451889
Nasty stuff, as is all war, just or not.
But the Huns know the score.
This far, no further.
FIN
What's the price of a mile, /twg/?
ded
Does anyone know the exact intercept range? Like, how close do armies have to be to get a chance to intercept me if I use beast paths?
if the red reinforcement circles (or whatever they're called) is touching, is that enough?
I really want to beast path away and sack a city, but I don't want to get wrecked by rng
INTO THE MOTHERLAND THE GERMAN ARMY MARCH
>>166453414
Whoa, don't use language like that. It's offensive because it's supporting nationalism.
Where is the tolerance and multicultural positivity?
>yfw excommunicated
>>166442672
you owe the barbars nothing, stand alone
>>166453582
Last warning bud
>>166453675
You will always stay a good christian in my heart anon. The Pope is a fuckboi anyway. I once conquered every christian nation in order to have my priest be declared popesince there no other candidates left lmao, suck it church
What are some good mods for Shogun 2?
I want to keep things mostly vanilla but wondering about things like map packs and such?
goddamn these things are gross.
The modelers working on gobbos and beastmen must love their job.
>>166453582
slav detected
>>166453715
People here still use last warning bud?
>>166454096
Second warning bud
>>166453874
>>166391957
rollan
>>166454096
>>166454149
penultimate alert buds
>>166454181
re rollan as no knife ear dlc
>>166454205
Final chance m8.
>>166454234
Well looks like you got knife ears and knife teeth and lots of knives to boot.
Will today be the day?
>>166455604
Tomorrow is the day
>>166453414
Mod?
>>166455604It wont be the day until about two weeks before the release date.And even then it wont be the day because something will be delayed for sure.
Why are woodelfs such cunts?
Chaos is literally tearing up the continent and they like them.
EMPIRE 2 FUCKING WHEN?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXknALrHSfI&t=143s
>>166456727
elves were a mistake
>>166456867
God dammit. Empire was so fucking hype. I'm still so upset with how shoddy it was.
CA flew too close to the sun. It could have been beautiful.
>>166408360
you can´t levie troops from them in del, right?
>>166414482
how does he still have a beard?
>>166392663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhqeNUFCyI0
Anyone have any good beastmen meme images? I need some for my warhammer fantasy folder
>>166457126
The melee aspect of gunpowder totalwar games are a bit disappointing though
Is it normal for Attila to die on his own? I assassinated him at least 5 times but that did nothing. I killed him in the field once, chased him around Europe and then he dies for no reason. He wasn't even the faction leader despite me assainating the F.L. multiple times.
HOLY SHIT GUYS! DID YOU SEE THE LATEST TOTAL WAR NEWS!?
>>166417249
C H I N A
>>166458689
>literally
>a
>mobile
>game
I want an age of discovery total war or empire total war, bronze age would be neat too but they wont do that, and it would likely end up being more fantasy than warhammer, besides I vastly prefer the other two settings
>>166452019
anno you did great
>>166429025
>>US Civil War
literally the most boring conflict in history
>>166459012
t. Reginald Codswallop III
>>166452084
Quite a lot i'd say
Do you guys ever backstab your allies or trade partners in total war games? I know that it doesn't have too many consequences from a metagaming standpoint but from a roleplaying standpoint i usually try my hardest not do backstab anyone especially if the other faction is from the same culture or religion group as my faction.
Currently doing a Kingdom of Asturias playthrough, trying to be all chivalrous christian and shit. Signed a peace treaty and a non-aggression pact with one of the smaller muslim factions because i was being attacked simultaneously by 3 different factions. Few turns later things have stabilised and i'm now tempted to backstab them and quickly try and capture their undefended home province.
I know that they are dirty infidels but at the same time, "muh chivalry".
>playing coop
>takeda and uesugi
>Along with satomi, we ambush an army lead by Oda Nobunaga and one other general
>like, 5000 vs 3000 of Oda troops
>be winning battle
>game crashes
noice
>>166460969
You are the lowest of the low if you backstab anyone, especially so if you have your units already on their borders.
>>166461285
As expected of based Nobunaga
>>166460969
Only when it's justified by RP reasons, either because of the faction's actions or the characters involved
>>166462304
I think them coming in to raid my lands is a valid enough reason to start a war, even if it did reduce my trustworthiness to "unreliable"
Hey guys, what's the trick to raiding & razing a settlement in the same turn??
Also, any advice for Balthy Gelt's Cloak of Molten Metal quest battle?? I tried using the bottleneck but they keep flanking my artillery...
>CA simply didn't bother to make any retinue for the WE
why?
Kinda getting in the mood for some peloponnesian war action (I'm a sucker for heavy infantry, I can't help it), is there any mod that touches wrath of sparta or uses the main campaign map?
>>166392751
Where is this? What faction has these Zoroastrian burial places?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12186235
http://www.strawpoll.me/12186235
http://www.strawpoll.me/12186235
>>166462595
Sassanid Empire.
>>166462449
>A forgien people come to rape and pillage from your people.
>They stab and maim woman and babies
>Your forces fight them off
>You become untrustworthy for defending your people
THANKS CA
>>166462727
>you become untrustworthy for going back on your word
THANKS CA
Guys. Pressing J makes your guys turn on heel and face around. You can literally press J with a spearman line in the back and (mostly) assfuck a cavalry charge.
>>166462831
If they are raiding you, surely they went back on their word first?
>>166462727
How about raiding them twice over like a man
>>166458045
He dies of old age.
Assassinating only works after defeating him in battle 2-3 times
>>166462449
if an armie is raiding then the raided faction should be able to attack witout war declartion.
Or it should give a diplomatic option declare war without penality
>>166462595
any that builds them, temples and such show up on battle scenes if built in the towns/villages
>Try to help a neighbouring AI faction to grow so that we could be best buddies for the entire campaign
>They lose one of their settlements
>They bring in an army to drive away the invaders
>Instead of recapturing the settlement they proceed to sack the shit out of it for the next 5 turns
And it's ALWAYS the faction i try to buddy up with. All the opposing factions never have any problems with expanding their borders but they immediately go full retard if i try to side ally myself with them.
AHHHH
>>166429025
Im hoping 1830 start
>>166463737
Did you take a photo of your screen or are those really horrible graphics settings??
>>166463917
It's the "ancient empires is oversaturated and has awful contrast and brightness levels" meme.
Surely someone will appreciate my latest shop
>>166463505
Take the province then gift it back to them?
>>166464461
Fable 2, is that you?
>>166426812
Thanks for posting a roll chart for AN ACTUAL GOOD TOTAL WAR GAME HAHAHAH LMAO
poasting all i have
>"What kind of assassin would you like to recruit today, my liege?"
>"Just fuck my shit up."
attila is posted already
warhammer is already posted I imagine :^)
>>166465148
There's an updated one.
>>166464935
>>166464928
That guy probably would have a hard time assassinating himself with those traits.
>>166465260
Ill roll for next time I play.
Does anyone else kind of hate the quest battles? It's like, they're alright once but then just get tedious if you play that faction again.
>>166466742
They can get old, but I also find some of the pretty comfy and neat. The newer quest battles are pretty good.
>tfw comfy maps
>offer carthage 1.5million for a military alliance
>"Your offer may seem wise to you, but we see little profit in it"
>>166464192
I like it
>>166466984
They are just showing off.
>>166466742
I just hate most of the reqs, the battles are alright
>>166467296
>That fucking Archaon battle where the enemy gets 8 Chaos Knight units as reinforcements.
Thank the gods one of my halberds managed to hold off 4 of them until I wrecked the other 4.
Is there a reskin-only version of Fall of the Eagles?
uh oh
this is what happens when you take over some random settlement in Egypt and start mass converting the nearby provinces to Celtic polytheism
If I gift money to factions in Rome 2, will they actually use it to build up infrastructure/armies? I'm trying to fund the edetani/syracuse against the romans and I want to know if I'm wasting money
>>166467678
>implying the AI need or use money
>>166467678
They will probably build something. I think I read somewhere that the AI has a limit on how much they can spend each turn(based on their total money).
I have noticed in Warhammer that if you give other factions money they will make new stacks. The thing is, they can't actually support these stacks in the long run so they will slowly desert.
Give factions money is useful when they are in a war against a superior force because their stacks will keep dying. By giving them money they will create new stacks really fast and send them into the grinder.
Giving money to Kislev worked pretty well for me. I kept their limping ass in the fight against chaos and they kept colonizing.
>>166468013
good to know, I've been funding the edetani, hoping that they use it to expand and conquer norbonesis, which is one of the provinces I need for an economic victory. A military alliance with Carthage would secure the other required provinces, but they won't accept an alliance no matter how much money I offer. You would think a mercantile state would gladly accept 2million talents to become besties with the most powerful faction in the mediterranean, but I guess not
>>166468369
You should send some agents to so what is going on with their armies and buildings.
>>166458737
I can dig it.
What's a good faction to abuse magic single player wise?
It's alright if I only use buffs but everytime I try to go trigger happy with nukes I run out of magic before I can deal significant damage.
>>166469134
Vampire Counts have some pretty good stuff. They even got the lore of shadows now.
You should probably get a magic overhaul mod for even more fun. Not that necessary as Vampire Counts, but whatever.
>>166467518
>chaos warriors instead of full stack of chosen
Oh shit nigger whatareyoudoing
>There will be no paid DLC alongside Bretonnia.
Does this mean no more DLC until the sequel? If so, I hope the OWE patch adds a lot more than just the Brets.
>>166469409
Not enough money yet. I can charge through several stacks of the Empire with this army though.
>>166469453
I think after the wood elves came out they said it would be the last big piece of DLC for the game, so there might be something relatively minor like a lord pack before the sequel comes out (Whenever that happens)
>fort battle
>me defending
>get to place defenses around us
>AI just spawns on the complete opposite side, making them completely useless
>>166469453
There will be FREE dlc though.
>>166469707
It's so stupid you can't see them right away in a fort battle.
I did it, /twg/. No more shitty laptop for me. I bought myself all the pieces and parts for a new PC and should have it built within 10 days. Glorious Warhammer and Shogun 2 action on high settings, I can't wait.
>>166469289
They got some cool shit yeah, but I run out of juice since I usually try to keep nehek on CD
Is it worth it to bring a second spell caster to spam arcane conduit?
>>166469983
>The GPU that can run Atilla at high settings consistently at 60fps hasn't been invented yet
>>166469983
>Shogun 2 only uses 1 core
Anyway, have fun anon.
If the Edetani/Carthage take Massalia, I complete my economic victory - the only problem is that the ai so far has seemed incompetent at dealing with the roman expansion - I have probably given over 4million talents to the Edetani, yet they can never seem to advance past the 2 minor provinces in narbonesis. Carthage finally decided to accept a military alliance, which means all of the other necessary provinces are secured.
I would attack the romans myself, however you need 15 trade partners for an economic victory, and one of rome's allies, the hellenic league, is also one of my trade partners.
>>166469983
Nice. I did the same thing when Attila came out, ditched the shite laptop and upgraded
>>166470098
It's not my processor it's my graphics card that's the problem. Still run Shogun 2 at high FPS but I want to see more details.
Does Attila have a unique voice?
>>166470501
no
a shame because he sounded really good in the trailers
>>166470212
>they've just been sacking it
fucking ai
>>166470736
I know that feel anon. >>166463505
Has anyone used any Empire Griffon mounts other than KF'z Deathclaw, like for the Beast Wizard, or Lord/Captain??
>>166453992
>space marines
>>166456376
LME
Campaign release when
>>166471760
Yes, on every character that has access to one. They're too good to pass up.
>>166470736
The Edetani finally took Massalia thanks to the funding and equipment provided by the Medewi Empire - Economic Victory complete
>tfw Attila has better UI aesthetic than Rome 2
>But they don't have cool unit cards like Rome 2
>>166391150Terminators when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-1-PQRbD28
>Do Chaos & Beastmen co-op legendary
>Watch my friend as beastmen do all this cool shit, can go invisible, underway, gets waaghs, ambush chance on standard attack, has ambush stance, starts with two stacks. Gets different shit on the moon.
>Meanwhile chaos gets.......
Really fun duo campaign though, highly recommend.
>>166472892
I prefer Attila but the optimization is ass so kinda ruins it a bit
>>166462606
Regiments of renown aren't really worth paying for by themselves, given that they're just reskinned regular units with some extra abilities.Except for the gob-lobber, that thing is perfect
>>166474287
Skolder Guard is the most based RoR
Wasn't CA planning to release real modding tools?
you know, for actually bringing mods back to med2 tiers
>>166473270
Yeah I wanna try this out. Would be neat to meet up in Kislev and wreck shit.
>>166474621
>Wasn't CA planning to release real modding tools?
I think they said "by the end of the year" (2016). No idea what's the plan now.
>you know, for actually bringing mods back to med2 tiers
That won't happen. It didn't happen for the previous games. Some mod tools would be nice though.
>>166474287
A lot of RoR are really good units that add a lot to them.
Sigmar's Sons and Tattersouls are good frontline anchors to build themed armies around or include generally. Silver Bullets are a critical anti-vamp tool in SP and MP. Terror-causing demis that can also crush characters.
Vamps got the Tithe tar pit, regenerating tanky grave guard, and the Claw of Nagash that such a good mortis engine with the aura slow added to the aura damage
Greenskin RoRs fall kind of flat aside from the really high end ones. Spider queen is a menace and if those killas get to your lines unscathed they grind anything to a pulp.
Dwarfs got the best set as a whole. Good low-tier with Dragonfire Pass Warriors, Ekrund Miners with multiple ammo on charges. And slow aura slayers, grumbling guard keeping everything fresh, and hammers that can dumpster any armored thing in the game.
I think they did a good job with them, albeit not having them does hurt you. Like some factions...
>>166472762
Congrats anon. Feels good to beat a campaign.
>>166474859
>It didn't happen for the previous games
yeah, because we didn't have proper tools
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Y5DIkyuhE
this isn't only for Attila, it regards every game that used the warscape engine
the lack of modding tools is why modding isn't what it used to be
I love playing on Legendary difficulty in Warhammer but the Combat AI buffs just piss me off, is there anyway to change that? I can't find it anywhere
>>166475089
They have some mod tools at least. Warhams has nothing which sucks.
>>166391957
rollin
>>166475094
There should be some mod. You can also lower the battle difficulty on the campaign map.
>>166475194
Im amazed GW even let them do anything for mods.
for the Beastmen campaign who's the best or most fun LL to start off with?
>>166475909
Morghur
Hey folks. Its me, your favorite moding god Radious again.
What kind of units do you want to see in my next mod update?
*Ride of the Valkyries starts playing*
>>166476313
Goblin Spear-men without Shields :^)
>>166475909
Its kind of complicated. While Morghur is the best lord option without question, I really hate his lord effect since minos are such a necessary tool for your army while chaos spawn while useful in low armor match ups aren't as versatile. Good starting location.
Khazrak starting is Estallia is ok but being so clustered in Bretonnia with the Wood Reich near by is kind of a pain but you do get to attack Athel Loren earlier.
Malagor I don't feel is good to start with. The location is interesting but as a lord he falls short since the nerf to lore of the Wild and wizard lords just haven't been figured out yet.
Wouldn't mid pic related at sometime, wouldn't know where to shove him though. Maybe in Ostermark to fuck them and the Vamps up a bit.
hello is AE out yet
>>166476656
Yes hello, it's already out
>>166461285
the famous AI ability to crash the game when it goes tits up for them, they have retained this shit ability since Rome 1
>>166476313
Mounted Swordsmen with Lances (Anti-Cavalry Artillery)
>>166462606
DLC for DLC is a hurdle of jewry I'd say even CA are tentative about.
Despite the MIXED reviews on steam, I think most people find how they're doing it is fine. The FLC is actually higher quality.
Hell, Vlad > Ghorst/Volkmar. Wurrzag is solid, etc. Most of the out-rage people have at this point is tired and habitual, but I would be upset if there was DLC for the hugely overpriced welf and beastmeme factions.
>>166476809
campaign?
>tfw can't even handle Shogun 2 on Normal
It's my first TW game and I beat it once before on Easy with Chosokabe (though I didn't even win in the time limit either). I completely suck balls at this game but damn if it isn't fun anyway.
This playthrough I decided I'd give Normal a chance again, but give myself a break by starting as Date (one direction to expand, don't have to watch my back all the time). I allied with Hatakeyama and I spent 14 years trying to expand (they are taking the lion's share and I have to cross through like 4 allied provinces to get to an enemy, Uesugi and Ikko-Ikki are both crazy strong). Had 5 provinces at the end.. until I lost 2.
Thinking of just restarting and having fun on Easy. At least I get to enjoy the game and get somewhere.
>>166476904
Yes, been playing it all week long
>>166451020
thanks for the advice, friendo. I was tempted to make a greenskin campaign, seems like its mostly zerging the fuck out of dorf outposts at the beginning. VC seems very interesting cause of their strange mechanics and playstyle.
I have a couple of questions tho
1. I've only ever played TW campaigns on normal, I know it's not THAT hard but i feel like the AI would cheat on higher difficulties. is this true?
2. What are the VC goals and objectives, seems like you start out with a nice position and can begin raiding zhulfbar and the eastern empire. Like whats the VC endgame? Cuck everyone then fight chaos?
>>166391361
Why did they get rid of the faction specific advisors?
>>166472762
Nice! When I confederated Averland, Marius Leitdorf was already level 30 & stuck on a pegasus, so ...
>>166476457
>, I really hate his lord effect s
this is my main problem i'm facing right now. I want to choose Morghur but that lord effect is too much. I don't if I should just yolo it and choose him or play it safe and choose One eye.
>>166476313
Beastmen Hellstorm rocket Gyrocopters that drop minotaurs.
The thirty year war is over. Austria, the catholic league and many more are no more. I am at peace, the wealth is good, all settlements are stable and guarded.
In the 1647 peace signing conference Sweden holds the major role when discussing the peace. Protestantism controls most central Europe.
The end.
0-4 jewish himyar
5-9 semitic paganism himyar
>>166405936
>Possible
Yes.
>Downside
You have to spend one turn awakening and then declare war and vassalize next turn.
Might also fuck with your trustworthiness as awakened tribes automatically have treaties with you.
Then again you're Chaos, who gives a shit if your trustworthy.
>>166482259
>You have to spend one turn awakening and then declare war and vassalize next turn.
no you don't, you can do it same turn. awakening/liberating a faction doesn't cost movement, so you can immediately attack and vassalize them.
>>166477085
>allying with hatakeyama
>ever
>>166407952
That's the point he's making.
Your 'dependable core' is not your rank-and-file infantry, its your most elite infantry.
What should be the case is that your core is made up of bog-standard infantry; boyz, gors, marauders/chaos warriors.
But they burst into treats a minute into the fight.
is attila tuskmod good? is the garrison submod raccomended?
Ancient memepires when
>>166483083
Don't bother
>>166407520
>>166446352
>playable faction
Forget it.
Sooner they will add Kislev in as a playable faction with a Legendary Difficult Level (you gonna have to be Ursun-tier tough to go and fight Chaos that will hit you first).
If they ever add Araby, then only as a NPC faction for Tomb Kings to fight and conquer.
Only hoping that they won't give them Empire load-outs because that would be plain lazy.
>>166447886
As long as the naval battles won't be like the ones in Empire then I'm OK.
any wh mods that restrict the ai's ability to recruit RoR en masse? I want them to be able to use them but I am getting tired of killing the krimson killaz and arachnarok queen a million times every campaign
>>166483445
Empire has the best naval battles out of all games with naval battles.
I am a sucker for age of sail though.
>>166456727
Because muh Oak of Ages and muh Orion being a mega cunt at times.
Seriously, everything's fine when a swell Wood Elf Lord is chosen to be turned into Orion.
When one that is a complete asshole is chosen then a lot of factions will go and try to torch Athel Loren.
>>166456867
Maybe the next historical TW is actually Empire 2? But with a lot of issues fixed?
>>166482558
My lels got struck by a tsunami. To be fair they have been great allies for most of my time. Now they just broke my trade aggreement and are losing ground FAST. Ended up being offered a peace treaty by both Ikko-Ikki (after I completely wrecked their army and Daimyo at a siege I was defending) and Uesugi after they got reduced to 1 province by Hatakeyama.
I'm now pretty much turtling and handling trade route blockades, with which I can't keep up. Thinking of abandoning all my ships just because it's such a fucking pain.
>>166476457
The location is unexplored but it sure as hell isn't interesting. Starting as Malagor is fucking hell not just because he sucks but the fucking lower badlands are a total meme. You can barely move an inch in any given direction and you take attrition fucking everywhere
>>166481613
That is one disgusting map
>medieval kingdoms 1212 will never have a campaign
>there will never be a broken crescent for Rome II or Attila
End my suffering
>>166484393
Estallia isn't that interesting either but starting in underused areas makes it better. You really doing explore that part of the map until you are in an Empire consolidation phase or send stacks to fight chaos before they get to you.Plus Ostermark and some east Empire provinces can grow out of control.
>>166484674
It's coming
>You will never own a tower in the middle of nowhere.
>>166484865
>portugal between Dijon and Metz
10/10
>>166485067
>When the enemy has 16 Saurons
>plays battle for more than 1 hour
>end up losing anyways against their last unit
whew... so this is the true shogun 2 experience they talked about
>>166485208
This fucking teamup though.
>>166485208
I always go with 32 Saurons.
>>166442672
How did the bastarnians get that far
>>166485189
>>166485882
I hope the "Norwegian Armies" horde faction is still in.
>>166407520
Ahahahaahha niggers
>>166485882
Why is lesser Poland the top in the relationship?
>>166476457
Oh god yes I would absolutely love Taurox. Possibly release him together with the possibility to recruit Doombull lords.
>>166485882
NEVER
EVER
>>166476457
What I did was
>Khazrak start
>Sack both of Estalia's towns
>Quickly fuck off somewhere safer, away from WEs
>Make eventual second horde Morghur (this is extra good since his 1 turn for recovery thing also means if that horde gets wiped out you can make him again instantly the next turn)
>>166485882
>>166484865
Can you post a link to the latest version or did you take that from a video?
Im glad that they didnt announce a release date like Ancient kingdoms did, I hate those fags for missing that deadline so spectacularly
>>166487371
Have a go m8'
http://www.moddb.com/mods/medieval-kingdoms-total-war-attila-version
>>166487774
>November update is the latest file
time for sudoku
>>166486971
>latin empire
DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>166487879
It's called seppuku
>shows up randomly when dwarfs are in danger
>helps them
>steals some of their valuables
>disappears
seems about right
>>166488491
>The Black Dwarf
>>166488491
>They maybe
>grombrindal's +10 to public order doesn't actually apply despite being listed as an effect
had a province showing -60(+16) but it only went up to -54 next turn
>>166487774
I downloaded the moddb files but it doesn't show me the factions like that
>>166487774
jesus those are awful
>its a greenskins confederate the entire badlands by turn 27 campaign
>>166489559
It'll be fixed goy
>>166490375
those are breddy gud minus the one guy with the square beard
>>166490049
That's good if you are not playing as the dwarfs. Greenskins are eaiser to remove than dwarfs.
>>166485347
>read that as 13000
Almost did a double take there
>tfw you get the "Conqueror? God, More Like!" achievement in warhams
>tfw you get the Kill X amount of enemies achievement in any total war game
>>166475089
The tools at the modders disposal don't even get used so what's the point? Look at S2.
Radious-tier mods are all that's left because they're easy to make, meanwhile most ambitious projects don't even have a campaign mode despite not needing a change in the campaign map.
>falling for the "haha, their army has left their settlement undefended" meme
>>166492281
Spicy meemo there friend
>>166396131
thats probably an unsigned integer overflow. looks like 36 was subtracted from zero (or 38 from 2, etc)
unsigned int a = 0;
unsigned int b = 36;
cout<<(a-b);
"4294967259"
>turn 44
>wood elves strength rank 1 w/ 9 settlements
I'm going to have to go fuck their shit up aren't I?
Playing Warriors of Chaos, does it make sense to have more than one stack? You can't really support other stacks with the stupid infighting rule. I just tried a game with two stacks, it got super fucking expensive.
this map does not look very funny
>>166487371
Nah, that anon just save the picture posted on /twg a couple of days ago. Look at the image filename.
>>166485189
That's exactly why it won't be released soon: still lots of unfinished work
Which begs the question: why am I lurking and shitposting around these forums when there are countless things to be done?
Kemmler is a long ways from home
>>166493497
Didn't know campaign was out
>>166493749
its not
>>166493497
>-70 food off the bat
>>166492998
>>166472892
Rome 2's unit cards are a fucking travesty what are you talking about
>>166493497
>Tfw the only reason I'm looking up to this mod is so I could play as Wallachia I cannot in any other total war game
>Tfw it's most likely not even going to be playable
Who /irrelevant/ here
Is the Imjin war mod for Medieval 2 worth it? I hear it's a pain in the ass to set up
>>166494198
I live in an relevant country so I don't know this feel, sorry romanian
>>166494084
>>166494198
you can probably get a mod to make it playable in napoopan or empire
>>166494358
It's pretty much the worst feel
>>166494536
I tried one and it was borken
>>166494036
>being afraid of a little food shortage
LMAO cuck
>>166494515
This feel is known to me also, anon
>>166494607
hey at least you got...uh... gypsies and communism
>>166494756
Y-you too
>>166477512
Difficulty on the campaign map most effects how less willing the AI is to deal with you favourably, and an arbitrary public order penalty.
I do it because normal feels a bit too easy andfor the cheevos.
There is secondarily a battle difficulty.
This defaults to the same setting you set campaign difficulty to, though can be changed(unless you're on Legendary).
DO NOTE that it is currently bugged either way, you can change the battle difficulty slider but the changes don't effect the campaign.
This is a bug with the current patch that damn well better be fixed.
Battle difficulty gives bonuses to all enemy units, some to melee attack and defence iirc, but primarily to leadership.
I usually turn this back down to normal because it kinda congeals most enemies together into a high-leadership blob.
Playing Chaos is annoying because suddenly everything is almost as elite(in morale) as chaos warriors.
Honestly the worst faction to play with higher battle difficulty for me was the VC.
You don't notice it for long, but in the start when you're fighting other VC around your starting location, you'll slap one unit of zombies against their one unit of zombies. And yours starts crumbling first because the AI is assigned a higher number.
VC basically want to just be the Empire.
Short term victory conditions are kill the Empire and own enough land while keeping Chaos out.
Long term adds the extermination of Bretonnia and the Stunties to that.
Fair warning with the vampires is that your economy is pretty weak. You're super reliant on your starting province's gold mind.
They're also one of the worst nations to fight Chaos and stunties with, roster-for-roster.
It doesn't matter too much but you can be blindsided really hard.
>>166494198
>tfw no emu total war
>>166494704
>>166493497
>>166490375
>>166487774
get back to working on the mod, you fucking bum. If you keep on whoring out new pics in this general for attention like you are now you will never fucking complete the mod
>>166494989
Vamp have an incredible late-game economy.
They also have easy access to armour-piercing and flying, so I don't know what you on about in regards to them struggling against dwarves.
As opposed to Orcs who don't get good AP infantry till black-rock.
hello
FLC roadmap updated again
>>166498670
Hype as fuck for old friend
>>166498472
salve
>>166498670
>+26 more maps
Big update boys
>Old friend is just Harry the Hammer for chaos and he's just shitty a chaos lord with some anti-undead utility
I know because my uncle works at Sonic Company
>>166499173
>implying the old friend isn'tNagash
>>166464192
someone posted ur shite on leddit m8
beggar nohammer has spent too long frolicking with the knife ears
>>166499558
not even close
>>166499173
>Implying it's not Krellwho works exactly like a wight king but has a +9 to attack.
>>166479137
Because of the 'plot' of total war warhammer.
Tzeentch wants to derail the end times
Old dude is a minion of Tzeentch
He's sent to the faction you choose to advise them
Faction you choose becomes powerful and gives Archaon a spanking derailing the end times
>>166498964
It'll be mostly quest maps for all the new lords
>>166500496
Ya but those always get in to the map pool for custom games and those are typically good maps. Usually a few trickle in that are replacement maps.
>>166428706
>Comfy Greenskins playthrough
>No need to worry about any Norse fucking shits appearing out of no-
>mother of zog
>>166500612
I'm excited, the Bretonnian maps are some of my favourite in the game
>>166500654
that happens every campaign, but they only declare war on the dwarf/greenskins factions
>>166500704
I used to love sending some Greenskin stacks to Bretonnia to sack the shit out of it and bully peasant gitz. Now its just a bunch of knife ears running away.
Sometimes I really hate this game
It's not like I was a turn away from attacking this piece of shit castle, only to lose all my progress building siege equipment and such
Durthu is gonna be PISSED!
Why do people regard shogun 2 as the best total war game?
It is alright but it feels small, and there its pretty easy to just smash out a million cheap ashigaru and win the game.
City management is almost non existent too, just build rice paddies and whatever unit you want to spam.
>>166500996
There should be an option to declare war on a faction if they confederate with a faction you're attacking so that you don't lose progress.
>>166498842
I really wish it was true, but I think it will be someone else.
>>166500996
That's the life in the Old World.
>>166501114
It was the entry point for a lot of people, so people have fond memories of it. It has great style, and for plebs style > substance.
Combat is really easy. Sieges are stupid and very easy to abuse, enabling wins against several times your number with very little effort to create gratification.
I jumped from Shogun 2 to Atilla, and I found it extremely overwhelming initially.
>Bought Warhammer when it came out to try
This shit isn't going to be finished until 2020, is it? I got 50 hours out of it but I'm not going to reinstall until it's all out.
Medieval 3 cyka blyat.
>>166502041
>Medieval 3 cyka blyat.
>he doesn't know
>>166493402
Is that Iranian plateau?
>>166498842
>tfw Dark Omen had better maps than WTW
>raze all of the treefucker settlements in athel loren
>force belegay to confederate as part of a peace treaty
things are going swimmingly over here
>>166502306
I remember trying to shoot those fucking huts with the mortar. one of them had an item if I remember right.
I will sacrifice a sheep to Zeus in order to speed up the AE mod development.
>>166498670
>An old friend...
I think we all know there's a new legendary lord coming dear to us all.
>>166503228
>ATILLA THE EVERCHOSEN
>>166503137
AHAHAHAHAH NEVER EVER AHAHAHAHAHjust kill me in my sleep
>an old friend
So... Literally the advisor as a Chaos lord?
>>166503929
The adviser as a Legendary Lord for every faction, but halfway through the campaign, your goal changes from assisting your faction to helping to weaken it further.
>>166416198
GOTY version usually have all the DLC, that's the entire reason why people buy them.
>>166503827
luv u anon
>>166504857
ts clearly just get the name back out there again as a re-release generates spotlightt again. It means nothing to anyone who already owns the game but its to cash in on attention and maybe get a couple more physical sales.
I have also heard the "steam comments and reviews" argument where a different name would erase all the salty bad reviews for DLC being a thing but I think that argument is weak, steam reviews are such a joke.
>>166494087
I know everyone's been complaining that the unit cards looks similar in Rome2, but I never had abt problem with them.
Also, I would definitely prefer rome2 unit cards over Attila's
>>166505436
well yes but still it's definitely better to get the game+all dlc at 60$ instead of 120$, with online cd key shops you may even get the whole thing at 45$ or so, so i guess there is a point to it
>>166500996
savescum it.
savescuming is acceptable in dumb situations like this.
>>166505481
same
they were so much more aesthetic and good looking, attila's are just boring
>>166505676
Of course but I wouldn't expect that to come out until Warhams 2 where "you can get all the Warhams 1 content and use it in 2" sort of deal.
I doubt OWEdition will be as game-changing as the R2 Emperor Edition patch that saved the game. Nor is it a DLC inclusion. It might want to be what the want to re-brand Warhammer 1 to differentiate future expansion content from it.
>{layan Shogun 2
>Get interested to see living members of all these ancient and proud clans
>Look up Date Clan
>Date Yasumune is the 34th head of the Date clan.
>He is a Miyagi University of Education dropout.
>mfw
Bretonnia should come 28th.
Newfag here, crossbows or handgunners and why?
>>166506136
both
because I said so
>>166506136
both, because there's a multitude of shit to kill and xbows and guns aren't the best for all of them.
>>166506136
Shortest answer is guns against stunties and chaos, crossbows against all else.
>>166506228
>>166506252
Well how many ranged units should I have in my army? I only bring typically 4 because they don't ever appear super useful. Maybe I'm using them wrong.
>>166506065
>Look up Date Clan
This is all you need to know about the Date clan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfmijD2XaqM
>>166506593
Depends who you are and what ranged units you have and who you're up against.
I typically have two skirmishers two arty for Empire.
>>166506593
4 max, you can create killing fields with proper spacing of your frontline or after getting the enemy to commit just flank the shits with your ranged.
>mannlet besieges settlement
>see he has a ton of zombies
>autoresolve gives me no chance
>decide to meet him on the field
SLAY EVERYTHING WITHOUT A BEARD
>>166407520
I am seriously asking, do you get sexual pleasure from misinforming people to make them feel bad?
Everytime you post it someone has to come and say this isn't even some guy from the team, just some unrelated faggot from the forums.
Quit posting it.
>>166502549
Plenty of the maps had magic items hidden in stuff on the map. Usually you'd want to destroy all buildings to see if something was inside.
Weird mechanic.
>>166506732
Troops with mohawks and pompadours would be fucking baller.
>Check out Oda Clan
>Once.. my clan ruled all of Japan
>Now I'm a figure skater
>>166507083
>>166507770
Quit it.
>>166500007
>stealing history memes
>>166507605
Who cares? That's decently respectable.
Better than being the greatest power in the world at a time and having everyone to follow the reigning monarch be a talentless faggot that the country will literally pay for.
>>166413501
>Rise of Islam
too close to charlemagne/ attila
>>166413501
I wouldn't mind a second gunpowder Total War if they did it as well as FotS.
>>166414627
>infantry
>fight with pikes
no:^)
>>166509703
also too problematic to picture/ommiting good old muhammad
>>166509884
Have the model for Hammie be his 8yo wife instead. CA gets shot up anyway because Mussies.
>>166422551
well, they were probably made ages ago, never died and the AI didn't scrap them
>>166494607
Just play as dacians
>>166500883
This is the first playthrough where I've actually managed to consolidate the Badlands. On VH Greenskins seem to have nothing but Waagh going for them and everything else is aimed at making your life shit.
Now I'm going to have to actually build archers so I can kill all these horse fuckers.
I might make peace with the midgets so I can waaagh the fuck out of Norsca.
Well, I recently started a campaign as Vampire Counts and as you could believe, it has a lot of underarmored and undergunned fighting with dwarves, especially as they won the Badlands and confederated most other dwarfen empires.
Any sound tactics for VC against dwarves? I mostly use Grave Guard with Grave Horrors charge, with vargheist as air support flankers, making them fly above the frontline and then strike from behind.
Also, pic related: today my exhausted army of 700 undead lead by this vampire was attacked by almost 1200 dwarfs... Dead fought valiantly and without fear of death (as you could presume), but we never stood a chance, so soon it was just my leader vs more than 400 hundred dwarfs...
And he kicked their asses all by himself!
He had this fucking "common" sword which causes terror and this helped immensely, as dwarves constantly ran away few hundred meters, stopped and ran back to fight, so he fought at most a hundred at one time. Also he healed himself with that first vampire domain spell, and dwarven thunderers and quarerells didnt dare to shoot him, as he was constantly in the middle of a horde of angry (and fucking scared) dwarfs.
Also I have a question, as in-game pedia does not answer me in any sensible way... What does Black Chariot (and all it's variants) actually do? What's the difference between the variants?
>>166510903
vargheists are shite, don't bring them. Be sure to bring cav to rear charge the dwarfs when they engage your grave guard
Empire is the most bullshit RNG faction in the game.
>Try out first ten turns
>Secessionists do fuck all but sit on their ass
>Try out game
>Secessionists, Beastmen, and Redhorns all invade me
>Get special event that gives me +40 chaos corruption
>Forced to restart
>>166511095
dont have cav yet, building for them is fucking expensive, and VC have a lot of dangers from every side, so I had to spend lots of moneys just to defend myself.
My empire consists of Wissenland, Stirland, Averland and Sylvania of course - I'm barely able to hold on two flags (which is a must as one flag of undead is often not enough to take a city with upgraded garrison) and have just enough money to slowly upgrade cities, also I just conquered Altdorf and will colonize Reikland soon (it lies in ruins, and judging from the fucking totems everywhere it were Beastmen)
Also I hoped for more interesting ideas than hammer and anvil, that tactic is known to me well and I'm already using it, just with vargheist instead of cavalry.
>>166509884
Omitting him is fine.
The expansion of Islam followed the death of Muhammad.
>>166510903
>black chariot variants
you mean corpse carts? one of them heals surrounding units and the other just gives enemy mages extra miscast %
>>166511660
vargheists just don't do much damage, and are incredibly vulnerable to missiles
>>166511095
Also why vargheist are supposed to be shit? Yes, they arent exactly powerful, but they won many sieges for me. I fly them over the walls when my infantry scales the ladders and then strike in unison - it ends in fucking mayhem.
>>166511478
>Secessionists do fuck all but sit on their ass
you're supposed to steamroll them with Franz and secure the province you idort, should take 6 turns max
>>166490375
I'm liking Temujin
>>166498670
>>166498842
>>166503228
>An Old Friend
>dwarfs constantly get grudges that require assassinating enemy heroes
>don't have a hero that specializes in assassinating
>>166512927
>Yes, they arent exactly powerful
you answered your own question
>>166513090
How the fuck do you steamroll them that fast on very hard? They get a stack in 2 turns flat.
>>166513562
>>166512839
I don't know man, vargheits are one of my favourite VC units, they've been performing extremely well in all my campaigns, easily getting 150+ kills per unit, even against dorfs. They're fairly squishy but they are fast, have frenzy and their rear charge is absolutly brutal.
This man definitely looks like the kind of guy I'd follow. Yup.
>raze athel loren as dwarfs
>it starts shitting out chaos corruption and giving off chaos osmosis
fucking knife ears fucking shit up even after they are all dead
>>166513562
That does not mean they're shit. They fly, and that gives them unparalleled mobility, and they still have enough power to fuck up light cav, archers (they will absorb first volley, few will probably die, but the rest will fuck their day big time. They win in melee without any problems against quarerells, which are "good in melee") and infantry on the walls - and that last thing is something cavalry can't do, it can only sit on it's ass during siege and die to tower fire. That's exactly what vampire counts army needs and I prefer to use them over bats or dogs as mobile attack units.
Of course I will exchange them to terrorgheists as soon as I can, and I will have cavalry in my armies too, but when you cant have archers or artillery you need some other options and that's exactly what vargheists give you.
>>166513980
yeah, man, you know your shit.
>>166513980
People don't understand that there are other ways a unit can be useful than being the most killy/toughest/fastest/meatshieldy.
Vargheists really do excel at the role they fill, which is quick, powerful flank attacks against blobs of engaged infantry.
>>166513970
Easy don't let them get to 2 turns to build up.
You march straight at them and recruit 3 units. And then you fight.
There are a few battles where you might be disadvantaged. But those close battles will be important to securing the province quickly.
Also learn how to use ambush stances in your own territory to ambush armies in favorable positions.
>Deploy close to them so that their army decides to attack and passes by you.
>Deploy close to empty city to try and get enemy to take bait
>use agents to kill theirs and then afterwards use those agents to block/harass theirs.
you can't wait to get a full stack you have to recruit on the fly.
>>166513970
Turn 1, fight their starting army and retreat to your territory and recruit, alternatively if you can't make it back don't fight them just recruit swordsman
Turn 2 take the first town and recruit more swordsman
Turn 3 make your way to the second town and recruit more swordsman (bonus points if you recruit a few units of free company)
Turn 4 fight their stack and garrison and win
There you go you've done it.
>>166514506
>and they still have enough power to fuck up light cav,
they can't catch any light cav, they are too slow
>>166514014
If you're a dwarf he's perfect.
>>166502041
I just came back to TWW and found that I needa pay 40 bucks just for the other factions already. by the time this shit is done it'll be a $300~ game just for all the factions
>>166513970
Those two other guys gave you the blueprint. Just remember the Reiksguard regiment and Karl Franz are OP as fuck, used them right and they will carry the battles.
>>166513090
>Secessionists do fuck all but sit on their ass
>steamroll them with Franz
>should take 6 turns max
how the fuck are you supposed to take all of Middenland in the first 6 turns?
>>166515548
>middenland
wot
>>166462606
Fuck that. If you're paying $20 for a fucking race pack then it should include everything even RoR. Beastmen I can forgive the Beastmen because they were prior to RoR becoming a thing, but there was no excuse for the Wood Elves lacking RoR.
And CA being CA refuses to even acknowledge it.
>Oh here's a shitty mini-campaign instead of shit you actually want
>>166515778
I bet they are holding all the DLC race ror's in reserve when they hit some dry patch of content and need to toss something (maybe coinciding with RoR's factions DLC sale) to keep interest up.
>>166493147
depends, what faction are you?
either way WE seem heckin agressive and seem to want to conquer more than they should
also i got annoyed that burning their tree of ages doesn't insta-fuck their faction like it probably should and does in your own campaign
but yeah i think if you're angrund you're definitely gonna have to push their shit in, empire maybe not so much, depends how expansionist they are
>>166493610
he really is a fucking dick
>>166507000
well done. those are the best battles, when autoresolve gives you little hope but you SPARTAN style hold them off and win, tis glooorious
im curious, what were your formations and tactics used? your meelee got a good amount of kills, but you seem light on line infantry. im curious as to how you protected your quarrelers/artillery, since they got a shit ton of kills but didnt take many casualties themselves
i like learning what other players do and their tactics used
playing defensivley as dwarves is amazing if you can protect your flanks and then rock the quarreler volleys, but i find dwarves need large armies to be truly versetile enough but are powerful when arrayed properly
>>166515778
What annoys me the most about the lack of RoR for the DLC races is, they aren't hard to make at all. CA is 1000000% full of shit when they say it's either RoR or something else.
RoRs are just reskins of existing units with some unique stats. That's it. Nothing else, I was able to pump out a bunch of reskins for the Empire in an afternoon. Me, a retard amateur who wastes his life on a Malaysian Stop Motion website.
>>166516846
It's called corner camping
t. total war pro
>>166500612
You also get those map into the campaign map which you can fight on outside quest battles.
stupid swedes burning my shit
>>166514161
FUCK ME dude I was wondering were the "osmosis" corruption was coming from. I played as Clan Angrund, and went against the Wood Elves right away. Took 40 turns but I eliminated them. Soon as I go to colonize other shit though, I begin to get corruption but Chaos is nowhere to be seen. Fucking bullshit, the only good elf is a dead elf
>FotE is STILL not updated for Vikings, Celts, and Slavs
>>166518061
Not much to burn desu.
>>166514686
Too add to this, make sure to use your reiksguard and lord to chase down the enemy general and intact units once you won the battle.
So should I put points in Karl's personal combat stats or his stat bonuses to his army?
hmm ...
>>166519407
If you're playing on anything other than very hard I don't think it matters too much. On harder difficulties where enemy units get bonuses to all their stats as opposed to just morale buffs you need to invest in the Leadership tree.
>>166519692
Put in both. Go mostly for melee attack, weapon strength and HP.
Unit buffs are also something you should go for.
>>166519984
Arguable. Being able to land on and instagib an enemy general is probably going to help you more than the unit bonuses. Empire already has pretty great units to beat all AI compositions.
>>166518061
They need to clear space for a mosque
>>166520334
I'm not so sure considering on legendary AI units get up to 15% bonus and +15 morale on top of that. I'd rather have my units being able to compete or outclass the AI's than having 15% weapon damage and/or 15% more hp.
Of course I don't mean investing all your points into Leadership skills but buffing your state troops is absolutely mandatory.
image limit lads
>>166521428
>>166521428
>>166521428
>>166440962
a faction unlocker will give you the Border Princes as a playable faction, Estalia and Tilea as well in similar fashion (all Empire-ish with some variants). I've always loved the Dogs of War/Tilea/Estalia/Border Princes and lamented their eventual "exclusion", much like Chaos Dwarfs.