/twg/ - Total War General

Today was not the day?

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If our daimyo is to become shogun, military ruler of all Japan.

>>166644890
No 5 more minutes anon.

how many times do I have to kill attila? his ability to shit out stacks of t3 units and catapults is getting a bit overwhelming

>>166644890
Today was not the day. They posted some link to an ign awards thing and told people to nominate TWW.

>>166644954
>how many times do I have to kill attila?
3 IIRC

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~th for late game Attila

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>>166645054
>>166644890

FUCKING WHEN

>>166645263
Next Thursday is the day!

Failing that, there's always tomorrow

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>>166645242
>razing
Let me tell you about the time I abandoned half of europe in a single turn.

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>>166645242
>tfw bro-tier huns rape everything for a thousand miles all around you
>tfw absolutely rek everything with no slowdown
>tfw Venedi
muh cabbages

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update on the progress of the empire

Macedonians have been broken, rome controls greece now, macedonians made a last stand near philipi

2 Carthaginian armies have landed in sardinia and corsica and carthage has landed another 3 armies in sicily

the people expect the emperor to die soon of old age

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*tips sallet*

>>166645862
Them borders on the end there kek.

>>166646104
unf


I am ashamed

>>166644746

>Templars

>not being beheaded

what.

>>166645862

meant to say 2 roman armies have landed in sardinia and corsica

>>166646104
yeah spread those legs you whore, I bet you love taking cocks

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>Turks invade Anatolia and crush opposing Byzantine armies
>Roman emperor asks the Pope for help
>nothing big though just some mercenaries to drive the Turks out of Anatolia
>Pope actually gathers all of Christendom for a holy war
>more men arrive then anybody could've though
>no way the Turks could survive against such an army
>idiots end up pillaging Byzantine lands and head for Palestine in bumfuck nowhere
>take Jerusalem and claim it as a great victory
>end up establishing kingdoms opposite of where they were supposed to head in the first place
>Anatolia which was vital for keeping the Islamic forces out of Europe is still in Turk hands
>Crusaders don't do anything to help Byzantines
>end up spending a century fighting the Arabs over Jerusalem
>don't even bother fighting the Turks
>Crusaders actually sack Constantinople and lead to the collapse of the Byzantine Empire
>Southern Europe all the way to Hungary fall into Muslim hands for the next five three to four centuries
Well done Urban II, well done indeed, however...

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How best to upgrade Kholek?

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>ywn be so Metal that you earn a nickname like 'The Scourge of God'

>>166646613
Melee. Them ward saves

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>>166646440
She really loves Beastmen cocks.

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Get your ass primed vladdy.

>>166646613

Kholek is competing with Durthu for the title of "Best melee fighter in the entire game"

He's one of the few lords were upgrading his own melee stats is really, truly worth it.

>>166646998
Is this the legendary trio of the greatest lords known to the world?

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What TW is/would be Lindybeige's favourite?

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Lol Kemmler can actually beat melee lords one on one now with zombie summon.

>>166647252

The one with no horses in it.

>>166647252
Empire since Britain is just better than anybody else by the virtue of being the only faction CA spend more than one coffee break designing.

>>166645136
Do I need to kill him in battle? My champs have been murdering him every other turn.

>Read description for Centigors
>Beastmeme's only cav
>Centigors are angry creates because they're shit

That's just what I want to read on the description of a t5 unit

>>166647252
Which TW is Britain most op in and which one doesn't feature any spandau?
Preferably also very useless cavalry.

>>166647583

>Great weapon centigors are bad

They're not though.

They're useful.

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>>166647252
Warhammer probably, it turned fantasy not-Germans into superior not-Englishmen after all.

We can be certain that he'd hate Shogun 2 though. Except for FotS maybe.
But if we're serious then Napoopan or Med2.

>>166647252


Empire probably although he would have an autistic fit upon discovering that the native factions have artillery.

>>166647982
>proceeds to make a 30-40min video explaining why redskins and shitskins are too stupid to use field guns
>then another 30min reply video to angry comments explaining why he calls them the way he does

>>166646976
delet this

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>>166648187
Me-eh-eh-eh-ke me.

What are cannons good for?

It says they are anti large, but single targets like a giant or shaggoth take a tiny amount of damage.

1 archer or handgun units seem more effective than multiple canons.

>>166648497
Its just one of the things that hasn't been balanced enough yet. While there are some artillery that can pt in work like the Hammer of Witches most of it doesn't do enough damage before the main lines engage and it takes a long time to take out large given the map in the first place is to your advantage to begin with.

Artillery is good against cav and really good against elite cav but not really monsters yet, besides making a giant fall over again and again like a drunk. The double handgunner/thunderer more reliable. Which is sad considering canons are the solution to anything in TT.

>MEN, BRING OURSELVES HONOR, GLORY AND MOST OF ALL ______

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>>166644746
Anyone here played the Secession: Civil War mod for medieval 2? I'd highly recommend it. actually a really good American Civil war simulation unlike FotS and its antics.

I suck at every TW game I play but boy they sure are fun.

>>166647252

Whichever one shows that most WW2 US army soldiers never shot at someone and the ones that did are psychopaths

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Uhhh, well this is unexpected, what do /twg/?
Should I refuse for the integrity of the Roman world?

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>>166643754
Decided to give pic related a try. Will post more once i actually get this thing installed.

>>166644341

The best thing Europa peredita does IMO is give you the ability to construct agricultural support that increases fertility of the province, thus allowing you to create designated breadbaskets.

>>166649290
good one. Play as one of the russian factions.

>>166649290
Go Poland, best looking roster.

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>>166649563
>>166649616
>Can't play as the Teutonic Order
Slightly disappointed. Should i go with early or late era campaign? Kind of feel like crusading after my Asturias campaign so will probably go with one of the christian faction near / in the Holy land.

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

>>166648497
Keeping large monsters stunned
Sniping high armor / shielded units
Killing cavalry models

That's all

>>166650498

great helms look retarded

>>166650298
In SS you've always been able to play as the TO in late era.
Weird that you can't there.

>>166648908
SPELL
SLINGER
PUSSY

>>166651181
This is actually the worst opinion any human has ever held

>>166651556

It's a bucket with slits

It looks retarded and is obsolete for the rest of the gear, you have properly fitting plate on the body and then a fucking bucket.

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>>166648138

pottery

>>166651181
I bet you play with the "No floppy hats" mod too

>>166648497
"Anti-large" means anything horse sized and up. In this case, it's referring to the extremely high projectile speed. Cannons are perfect for hitting enemy cavalry as they advance.

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Why are elves so cute

>>166652313
Easier to be bait.

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>Ungor herds and gor herds are complete garbage
>BUT
>Through technology and the gorebull they can get a whopping 30+ attack.
>Bestigor herds are slightly less garbage, but still garbage.
>Don't have the same backing technology/buffs

what did CA mean by this

>>166652313
They get plenty of Beastmen cum to rub on their skin to keep them young.

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>>166651181
>>166651632
Agreed. That's why they abandoned it and developed superior models
>>166651792
>>166651556
I bet you play with "Replace Floppy Hats with a Bucket" mod

>>166648270
Fucking beastmemes GTFO my thread

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>>166652313
AAAAHHHH

/twg lied to me! You always says they are forest NEETS, in reality they are literally tree hitlers

>>166653162
Im gonna need source on that one pham

what's the marriage age in Attila? my son is 18 but I can't arrange one.

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>>166651383


>she will never cast flesh to stone on your dick

>>166653646

Just wait a couple of turns

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>>166651181


your face looks retarded

>>166653650
Friendly reminder wood elves are murderous, cannibalistic heathens who enjoy torturing, raping, and murdering poor Bretonnian peasants. The only reason why they care about any life that isn't another wood elf is when their precious forest might be threatened as a result. It would actually be a better world if both wood elves and beastmen were dead.

>>166653791

You look fucking retarded faggot

kys

>>166647390
Also the AI can't mount naval invasions properly, so they're invincible.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32qFX3Qo4AE

>mfw Jul 30, 2010

>>166653847

*Steps out of a treeline behind you*
*fills you with starfire shafts*

heh nothin personal Human

hello where is Bretonnia please

>>166654267

Its already out

>>166654373
this is not funny

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>Those wizard kills

first time for everything

>>166653162
aaayyyy gimme that exlink please

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Literally their last unit killed me after 1 hour and 35 minutes of battle because I forgot cavalry could climb walls by dismounting, and it was too late when I realized. I uninstalled the game

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>>166653886


wtf did you just say to me you little shit?

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>>166654593

I'm gonna be a man and commit seppuku

>>166654503
>Cult of Ulric in Beastmeme mini-campaign
>No cult of ulric units yet
Pls just butcher my genitals and mail them to the President of Paru, senpai.

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>>166653847


are half-elves possible in warhammer lore? I feel like with only smelly peasant women with no concept of personal hygiene, you'd try to snatch yourself and elf maid if you could

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>>166654595
>that bulge

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G O B L I N S

>>166654741
Well, if you were an elf you probably wouldn't be able to get a elf-maiden either. Thus, yellow fever (Breton fever in this case).

>>166654503
Doomflock of lore of beasts? That is great against the fank and file blobbi-

>that army comp
why even bother with tactics, you can auto resolve it by hitting the start button and making yourself tea or calling your mum

>>166636672
>So this means that we gonna get 3 units as Parthia , Lusitanii or Greek states right? What a fucking bullshit.
Uh no, 12 Parthian units, like 15 for Lusitanii, 25+ for Greek nations

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recently started a sfo empire campaign, any anons who have played w/ the mod before have any advice?

>>166655126
No flock of doom doesn't count for kill totals, that anon probably had the wizard mounted on the razorgor chariots, where they can do very well if you micro them constantly

>>166655126
Sun of Xerxes

why're you talkin' shit bout my army comp?

not like beastmemes have a massive selection

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I've never played the Alans before so I'm gonna ask for some advice. Where should I settle from here? It's 421 AD and it's been rather slow. White huns have destroyed most of the Sassanids who I have a military alliance with. Romans are doing fine on both fronts. Is taking Sarmatia Europaea a safe bet or would Attila eventually come over here?

>>166656402
How do you micro chariots well

>>166656607
Given your position attila will come make love to your face no matter what

Never even settle in sarmatia

>>166656607
safest place to settle is spain, but unfortunately the victory conditions require you to be settled in both sarmatia AND narbonesis

>>166656698
lots of clicking and avoiding cav/units with bonuses vs large. The last update to WH actually made chariots pretty good

>>166656607
Ha

No, that's the Huns spawning ground.

alright is it SFO or Unique Empire States that is giving my greatswords capes? Because they look dumb as hell

>>166656432
So instead of using swamp tactics, adaptive front lines, hammer and anvils or anything resembling a thought process just spam minos and win the day stroking it to big beef charge/attack animations.

Beastmen can be a difficult challenge and feel good when the herd finally get em after a good slog. I could give that army to a dog and the only way it will lose is if it accidentally unplugs the computer its playing on.

>>166656985
>>166656946
>>166656734

Well, fuck. Guess I'll scrap it for now and come back when I feel like it. My first campaign on hard, too ;_;

Is the FIRST chaos invasion meant to fuck the whole human region?

They held the line just fine in my dwarf campaign but now, in my empire campaign they razed almost half the settlements and I couldn't help them because they didn't grant me military access and WE got cocky just as the invasion started

>>166648945
>gunpowder warfare
>med2 engine

I have got to see something so horrible.

>>166657327

It can do. It really depends on how well Kislev hold against the early Varg incursions and if the VC go north into Ostermark. Nordland and Hochland never seem to survive in any of my campaigns.

>>166657167
I hammer with the tusky doggos.

When I play a faction I try to use what's unique about them. No other faction has warbeasts above dogs. Minotaurs are some of the best monstrous infantry. Gors for the most part are just standard infantry but shit.

Centaurs also look pretty terrible.

I don't jerk off to the charge because legendary and I can't pause.

I am sure I will try other shit out because it's my first campaign as beastmemes, hence I'm playing the mini-camp.

>>166647848
>Lindy liking a game where you play literally french hitler

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wtf i love pistols now

>>166657057
Might be both. Pretty sure Unique Empire States overwrites SFO empire look changes.

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>>166657812
You know anon if you combine poison doggos with GWCentigors you have a great cav trap. Doggos catch/soak the charge and centigors deal the damage and with poisoned stats that enemy cav will likely lose and can't escape.

A gor herd front line with besties mixed in can provide a good armor-piercing line. Spear ungors can tie up monsters and trade cost efficiently. Plus overwhelming numbers with multiple stacks is kind of their thing, especially with such high speed their second army arrives before other races will.

Minos are fast enough to be used on the flanks or tough enough to be a linebacker like crypt horrors depending on what the enemy looks like.

Try you know, actually thinking instead of monstrous spam. You might have more fun.

>>166657759

Kislev hated me for some reason so they got raped by chaos and the 2 tribes raided everyone else.
I'm trying to get the dwarfs to confederate karak kadrin so they can help me now that they 're huge.

>skarsnik can lightning strike in a sally and cut off my reinforcements with his small army but still gets to use the reinforcements from his garrison

>>166658024
Y'all are way too good at this game, I need to play more.

>>166658419
Centigors look really cool, especially when I upgraded from low to medium model detail.

Shame they have anti-snyergy with the lore of wild.

It gives you extra vigour and speed right? I'm honestly not sure how it works.

>>166659526
nah this SFO mod makes garrisons op af

>>166659607
>anti-synergy with Lore of Wild
what?

They have primal fury and a rule that makes them pretty much immune to vigor.

>>166659745
also
>night goblin spears
>4000 gobbo garrison in a level 3 city

I didn't think it was possible to make Warhammer sieges worse

>>166660118
Side question, do people even use Lore of Beasts? When I get Spellslingers I always go for Shadows and Life.

>>>166644341
Thanks anon

>>166660225

>do people even use Lore of Beasts?

Yes?

Flock of Doom is the best AoE damage spell in the game

>>166660225
flock of doom

It used to also be useful for manticores but the new summoning mechanics mean transformation of kadon is a useless spell. Pann's Impenetrable Pelt is underrrated imo, 24% ward save is nothing to sleep on

>>166660225
Lore of beasts is really good against a blob with Flock of Doom, and in MP you take no other spell for cost reasons.

Curse of Anraheir can be decent against WElfs, so is DoomFlock with the Elf bunching. Wyssan's Wildform is decent on a mino unit or hero.

Amber spear isn't good, Pann's Impenetrable Pelt is good on a hero is sticky combat.

Doomflock is the only MP-viable spell just to really drive that home.

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This is seriously pissing me off, Skarsnik's army is just him and an archer and yet he can lightning strike to remove my reinforcing army yet still get his garrison reinforcements. There is no fucking way for me to take this settlement

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U dun it now 'arry porrer

>>166660118
I mean the lore of the wild gives +10 vigour when you cast something. Which obviously is useless for centigors.

I've tried it out a little but I'm not quite sure how good it is.

The only good spell is the buff anyway, and that really only seems worthwhile with ungors.

>>166660752
>retreat
>come back next turn
>initiate attack yourself

wow, so fucking hard

are you retarded? what's the issue here, you don't have a siege unit to ignore the walls?

>>166660798

>The only good spell is the buff anyway

Nigger what

Flock of Doom blows the fuck out of blobs

>>166660752
If you had some better lord/hero killer then you probably would have won that fight eaisly. By the way, the balance bar can be totally wrong. You get a lot of them after the newest patch. It forces you to play some battles which is good I guess.

>>166660752
A scheme worthy of skarsnik

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I need a historical accurate consultation. Is this historically accurate?

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Party hard

>>166660798
>Mantle of Ghorok
+58 Melee Attack
+44% Weapon Damage
causes damage to target

44% weapon damage increase anon. Do you want to put that on an ungorwho has 20 WD, leading to an ungor unit with 28.86 WD which is still not that great for a rank and file. Or a gorebull with 140 WD with 280AP.

Which has me wonder does that only increase the 140 or does it include both?

>>166661223
I don't kbow... there's something about the mod creators avatar that kind of undermines his credibility.

>>166660914
you fucking assmonkey, even with both of my armies I lose if attacking the settlement thanks to Steel Garrison Overhaul's changes, so I am trying to wait out the settlement and force them to either starve to death or sally out and face both my armies on the field, but due to the lightning strike bull shit they can isolate one of my armies while still getting their reinforcements. If the lightning strike was working like it is supposed to, Skarsnik wouldn't be able to isolate my armies without also losing the 4000 strong night gobbo garrison force

>>166660752
Set up a raiding camp, have a hero repeatedly try to assassinate Skarsnik and go kill the army remaining.

>>166661417
>have a hero try to assassinate skarsnik

lol

>>166661350

Lightning strike is working how it's supposed to. If Skarsnik was instead inside the town's zone of control, and not its garrison, he wouldn't get the garrison army in a lightning strike battle. Just move away, put armies on ambush and try to bait him out. Failing that, try assassinations.

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>>166661241
I want to love papa kholek

>>166661350
Have you tried gitting gud and just winning it?
I assume Franz's army is pretty decent. Just build some siege towers you mong

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>tfw to inteligent to play as barbars

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Skarsnik's head will look good on a spike above Altdorf

>>166661615
he is in the zoc in that cap, not in the town
>>166661680
>just build some siege towers

are you autistic? The entire problem centers around not being able to build siege towers as whatever army is building them gets isolated via lightning strike

>>166662037
>halberdiers
>that many free companies and xbows

explains why you're so fuckin retarded lmao, no wonder you can't figure this out

>>166662119
>he doesn't know how broken free company are in autoresolve

it seems like you are the retard here

>>166662119
It looks like he is playing SFO so basically every Empire unit is useful.

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How do you guys play tokugawa in shogun 2?

So far i've tried
>staying a vassal of imagawa, building up and then going ham when he gets wiped out by takeda/hojo usually.

>defeat oda invasion turn one
>turn two, oda invades, go around him and siege his castle. Request peace and give him military access, let him kill imagawa.

I prefer the first method.

Not a fan of declaring war on imagawa right at the start and taking the diplomacy hit. Shit sux.

Currently control all of japan east of kyoto. Turtling and jewing a bit before carrying on.

>>166662119
While he does have way too many missile troops whats your point against halberdiers?

AP damage, good defense, anti-large. Good front liners against hard armor

>>166657327

In my wood elf campaign everything Human owned beyond those cliffs near the forest (apart from Altdorf) was a wasteland pretty quickly. Worst thing is that Chaos wasnt even strong since they got raped by Vampiric corruption

>>166661223
It is actually, the huns who invaded europe in the game's timeframe didn't look like asians, and even CA knows it, just look at Attila, he's the only white guy in a sea of yellow, this makes no sense at all

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cunts

someone post the nip comic

>>166661084
>Lore of the WILD

You are thinking about Lore of Beasts, can't really blame you, Wild is limited to beastmen and a very strong competitor with Metal for the absolute worst

>>166662792

I forgot that lore existed after the damage spell was nerfed from being utterly game-breakingly broken to being so shit it might as well not exist.

>>166661252
Yeah the damage is a good point, but the extra attack is wasted on slot of their other units. Does anyone know how much friendly damage it does? Theoretically it show work pretty well with harpies since they have low attack and high damage, but they have low hit points.

Also I think it only affects non-ap damage, there are other spells that effect ap damage only

>>166663250
honestly it just costs to much magic to be effective, and it only effects one unit unlike other spells which can effect your entire main line of infantry

>>166663386
It has a 5 second casting time, which I thought might be useful since it's give all your units +24℅ speed for that duration. And the vigour but I'm not sure how that works.

Traitor kin also has a long casting time and seems to be a anti-cavalry spell, but that has a really high cost too.

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Hot.

Hopefully CA does a lot of magic tweaking for the next installment.

More winds for more magic, more perks for stronger mages (Hero/Lord/LL levels).

Tweak the lores and spells around a bit. MilkandCookies made a decent vid about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PWICaW1Ypg

>>166661241
>>166661654
awesome

>>166663959
they won't though, they have proven that they are absolutely clueless when it comes to balance

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What do you guys think of this new meme i made?

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>>166664258
Pretty good.

>>166664103
The game is the most balanced it has ever been and every faction is completely viable for MP and SP. It was their first time with the magic system and while it wasn't horrible it has some room for improvement. Hopefully they get around to it as well as other valid criticisms.

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>>166664404
Give me a quick rundown on Spartan-Roman relations.

>>166664648
There were no relations to have. Sparta was a footnote.

>>166664648
what the fuck is this new meme even about ? Why are the Bogdanoff brother all over 4chan all of a sudden ?

>>166664796
Just some forced shit with no meaning. It reminds me of that ancient and dead /int/ meme about the danish royal family being shape-shifting reptilians. It was basically a copypasta being posted in every thread.

>>166664258
very good

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>these odds

>>166666098
>Lightning strike

pussy bitch nigga

>>166666098
The shielded varient doesn't really seem worth the extra cost really. Maybe if it was a bit cheaper

>>166666098
What is going on with those unit sizes.

26 wild riders, 80 archers...

>>166667457
Looks like SFO. Really elite cav are much stronger but with lower unit counts. Beastie infantry are 160, ultra monstrous infantry is like 12.

>>166647252
The one with Bren guns.

>>166667705
>Wild riders at 24
>Reiksguard at 60
>demigryph 24
What the actual fuck?

>>166667969
elite cav
not elite cav
elite cav

>>166667969
This is SFO m9
Also even with these unit sizes the Demigryphs rape shit better

>>166668186
Yeah I got that, I'm commenting on how poor its balance appears to be.

>>166668146
Wild riders are really good but not more than 2 to 1 over Reiksguard.
And Demigryphs are like twice as good as Wild Riders.

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clearly my current strategy isn't working, what comp should I be using to deal with these treefuckers

>>166668297
Ya wild riders are the cav he kinda goofed on but the stats make up for it.

Grail Knights, Demis, Chaos Knights the gods on horseback are the ones who should be subjected to the 24 unit model count with very good stats. But those 24 count units are very good but make themselves really weak to artillery since a good hit still wipes a model which is how it should be.

>>166668632
Demis still unfairly outclass non-monstrous cav. Even Blood Dragons. And Blood Dragons are more expensive. Though they do have a very specific utility within the roster that justifies their cost.
Chaos and Grail knights are underwhelming compared to those two.

>>166668579

more xbows

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>>166664796
he's the new big guy 4u

>Radious mod
>Adds bows to Vampires

Weeew. Any decent mods for Total Warhammer that dont fuck the game completely

>>166668579

Arty like Rocket batteries fucked me up good when i played an Elf campaign. Also more ranged to pummel their archers and half their units die quickly under arrow fire and Tree kin can be taken down quick with fire

>>166668773
>Empire and VC being too strong compared to other races
Really, its only been that way since Patch 1

But ya Blood Knights are another one for that list I missed.

>>166668974
It's coincidental that the two strongest factions have the two strongest cavalry units. Well, in part. While they're the two strongest, Demis are cheaper and better. Whereas Blood Dragons are more expensive and your only really reliable source of anti-large.(Actually I think terrorgeists might do that as well).
They're a balanced part of the VC roster, where imbalance comes from elsewhere.

And it's not like you can't still take boar boy big'uns and wreck demis with them anyway.

I discussed a similar topic recently, simply on the difference between how conventional and monstrous cavalry interact with units.
Demigryphs are basically what chariots wish they could be.

>>166668773
Actually you may not know this but SFO adjusts a lot of unit stats from vanilla. Chaos and Grail's have much better performance there than vanilla. So does magic and cannons so that 24 model count can get absolutely wrecked on a open map with a canon.

>>166669647
Ah, I didn't. I just assumed unit sizes. I don't have anything to base this on without vanilla stats.

>>166663780
>Portrait is a male Ungor
What did they mean by this?

>>166669475
well it does fit the lore. blood knights and demigryphs are supposed to be the best cavalry in the old world. The only thing left is Grail Knights and they could use a buff

>>166653382
>>166654554
It's not porn, unfortunately

It's an isekai manga about an elf girl who comes to our world in search of food that doesn't suck, but she overeats at mcdonald's and becomes an honorary american so she has to visit a special japanese weight loss clinic because she needs to be a certain weight in order to travel back home

But then later she comes back because the portal is more like a door and she can't live without french fries and hamburgers

>>166669862
>female beastmen are futanari
>"female" beastmen are males that the gods caused to grow a womb and cunt in order to make more beastmen
>"female" beastmen are homosexual beastmen
>female beastmen are ugly

>>166669870
Chaos Knights are practically Grail Knights in power level as well.
I don't know about Demigryphs but assumed they were standard pretty good human knights with particularly strong mounts. And weaker than the three conventional god cavalry units.

In that post I was more talking in regards to the game balance than the lore. Blood Dragons' balance fits the lore well enough. Demis should either be more expensive or weaker though, for both lore and balance reasons.

Grail knights should see adjustment with the Bretonnia launch. S O O N.

>>166670232
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Elf-san-wa-Yaserarenai

>>166670232
is that why they're slightly thicc in the image? if so this is my fetish

>>166670526
Ya the funny thing with Demis the knight doesn't really matter, the mount is the killing power. There is no difference between a DemiKnight and a Reiksguard

A Chaos/Grail knight buff would be nice since you see neither in meta

>>166670856
I think the Bretonnian Knights should only be better than a comparable cav unit in another army
Knights of the Realm>Empire Knights
Reiksguard> Knigths of the Realm
Grail Knights>Reiksguard
Questing Knights (great weapons) should be the large monster rapesquad and Knights Errant should serve as sword and shield cav just to round things out.

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>>166670730
exactly, my fellow gentlemen of great taste.

>>166671830
That would be ideal. As long as knights become what wins Bretonnia games instead of the peasant blob it will be a success. Lots of questions on the apparent development of OC units.

>>166669870
>>166670856
Grail Knights / Blood Knights / Chaos Knights are the trimuverate of cavalry, both have similar powerlevel and in straight combat, any of them could win

Demigryph knights pale in comparison, they just ride an angry lion-chicken, you don't get to bring dragons to a cavalry contest, do you?

>>166672082
peasants need a nerf in order to justify cool things like battle monks and grail reliquae.

>>166672286
IIRC someone said that they designed the Bret peasants to over-perform to crutch the lack of roster so that should be happening. Men-at-arms polearms being the biggest offender.

>>166663780
>Female Beastemen are rare

Nice job fucking up the lore CA

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Rats when?

>>166672082
>>166672286
As important as killing power, is the economics, accessibility, and availability of said units.

Basic Knights shouldn't be so hard for Brets to field, they should be readily available without complex building requirements.

>>166672453
Right, I'm saying fixes for after the "Old World" release.
Peasants should function primarily as a tar pit to support Knight charges and archer volleys. The Grail Reliquae would give them stat boots to make them a better tar pit (+LD, +T, etc) and Battle Pilgrims would basically be mid tier flagellants.

>>166672559
that's a weird fleshlight...

WHEN WILL THERE BE A NEW TOTAL WAR WITHOUT FAGGOT ELVES AND ORCS?

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>>166672739
Should be as easy as mounted yeoman considering those are supposed to be the crux of your army.

>>166672971
flagellants are a mid tier unit, just non-ap infantry has a hard time without special/rare limits

>>166673278
Probably early 2018

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>>166673369
i dont think my heart can take rome 2 until 2018

>>166673676
>i dont think my heart can take rome 2 until 2018
>rome 2
no Attila or Med 2?

>>166650298
What's that double headed eagle faction in Greece?

>>166673867
i dont like the factions in attila, only the charlemagne expansion

>>166673867
>med 2
Dear lord no. I can barley play empire its aged so badly.

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>>166673676
won't you feel like an asinine mortal in 2018 when TWW is complete and basically the best game ever and you're the only one calling for less imaginative fare.

I currently play TWW, but I have a friend who plays Shogun II pretty regularly and is recommending it to me. Is it worth it?

>>166670368
>"female" beast men are futanari
FTFY

faggot

>>166674563
Is your friend a chinaman who laughs a lot?

>>166674489
Realistic wars are 10000 times more fun to play, even IF there has to be a fantasy total war, why warhammer out of all fantasies? Why not lord of the rings?

>>166674897
No my Asian friend plays GTA.

>>166674563
It's a vastly inferior game.

You should've played Shogun 2 first.

>>166674563
Fall of the samurai is neat, original is ok Rise is complete boring horse shit.

>>166674993
>>166674938
>>166674489

I really don't understand the Fantasy/History war. Warhammer was founded by Hisfags why can't we all just get along?

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>>166673869
You get 3 guesses.

>>166675145
Fall of the Samurai seems neat to me, I'm kind of a history fan but don't know as much about Japanese history as I would like. The Battle of Shiroyama is kind of the only one I know from that period.

>>166674065
>only the charlemagne expansion
then play that.
or Shogun 2 or Med 2 or Med 1 or Rome 1.

>>166674938
LotR is not a great setting that relies on characters. Warhammer has a better setting and much more in terms of factions and diversity in a fantasy setting. And most of these factions can be linked to historical cultures, stretched to some Hyperbole. There is way more to the Empire and Bretonnia than Gondor and Rohan. Hell even the bad guys come from various tribes and leaders instead of "the big bad".

Its also really black and white meanwhile. Warhams is black vs. various shades of grey thinking they they alone are the whitest of whites.

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>end times not updated
>No AE
>No 1212
>Eb 2 not updated to 2.3

>>166674563
It's worth it if you're interested in the setting. The game doesn't have a huge roster of units but because of this everything else is pretty highly polished. The only real DLC you'd want is Fall of the Samurai as that is a really well done campaign that changes how the game works.


.

>>166675339
Shouldn't the ottomans begin in Anatolia?

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>>166675392
`,:^)

>>166675356
It's pretty good shogun just gets boring after awhile though since most of the units are the same for each faction.

>>166675894
wew lad

>>166674938
LOTR's license was probably too much for SEGA right now, considering there have not been any movies out for a while to help to market it, (I do have fond memories of Battle for Middle Earth 2, however.
Games Workshop on the other hand is a company which has had no clue what to do with Its ip for some time, especially after their main vidya partner went down. The slew of GW brand Games you see now is the result of them desperately trying to find some way to be profitable.

>>166675380
LOTR is definitely more character focused but it's world building is much better than WHFBs. Remember that Tolkien codified a lot of the common fantasy tropes we see today. Warhammer is basically equal parts Tolkien, European history, and Blackadder.

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Should I betray everyone and conquer entire peninsula?

>>166676406
Of course, what else is there to do ?

>>166676362
While it is the first its barely a better setting than a D&D campaign. If it wasn't for the characters what else is there?

Again what do the factions in LotR offer that Warhammer doesn't? Then Warhammer has factions and traits LotR doesn't have.

Greenskin tribes (goblin, night goblin, orc, savage orc) all bashing each others' skulls in for dominance

Human kingdoms with politically-entwined religious institutions, one based on HRE the other French middle ages with Arthurian flare

Murder vikings, mutated half-man/half-beast abominations, mutated rat-men

Splintered elf races ranging from world-police to reprehensible raiders relying on psychological warfare

Hell even the minor footnote nations have more to their flavor. LotR was there first but it got boring.

>>166676892
>"Let me tell you about the grudges I've seen"

>>166677014
>Someone has not read the Similarion.
Its hard to compare LotR and WHFB because they were trying to do different things. I love both.
I agree with you that Warhammer is a better fit for Total War, but I a also think a LotR Total War could work.

>>166676892
Why are his lips blue?

>>166678391
It's cold out and he's wearing 80 lbs of steel?

Remind me never to leave twg again

>>166678840
What happened anon?
You can tell us you are safe now

>>166663780
>>166672541
Hey, don't like crazy chaos cultists also end up going to drunken beasties orgies and end up impregnated by beastmen?

>>166657942
>literally french hitler
I thought you were talking about Durthu initially until I realized you were referring to Napoopan.
Memes have gone too far.

>>166679012
Some do sure. Also from rape of civilians from pillaging.

The point is though that female beastmen haven just as often as the males, they only seem rare because they don't leave the beast camps in the forests.

>>166679152
how is durthu french ?

>>166678993
Ever other part of 4chan is just awful. Racism everywhere, Nazis and people trying to justify the Holocaust.

Why dies no one want to do good for the world and help people? Why does everyone want evil things?

>>166678993
Some friend from highschool got me to leave my house for once, turns out she just wanted me to join her in some suicide pact she made with some guys online.
Luckily non one died, her boyfriend came and picked her up, but I still feel like fucking shit right now.

>>166679509
My wifes boyfriend tried the same scam with me.

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>>166679481
>Nazis and people trying to justify the Holocaust
And this is why you never go unironically to /pol/.
>Why dies no one want to do good for the world and help people? Why does everyone want evil things?
Because the world would be better off if the lesser races are removed.

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>>166679267
>they don't leave the beast camps in the forests
>ywn never be a beastmen coming back to your comfy camp to shag your doe after pooping all over Boris' villages

>>166679481
nut up queer

>>166679896
Does, plural, probably since the males do all the raiding, fighting and dying. Also the female human captives.

>>166679481

Holy shit mate, please kill yourself.

>>166680195
Nah mate, you first.

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>>166679481

>>166679708
If we just killed everyone who made the world a worse place for everyone else we'd be left with a single person.

>>166680286

No, seriously.

I don't care that you don't like /pol/, I don't like /pol/ because /pol/ is distilled cancer.

But if you're in all fucking honesty gonna get morally indignant about /pol/ and then flee here to what you apparently imagine is your own person 4chan hugbox to have a little cry about then you're every bit the waste of oxygen that the average /pol/ user is, only with a hearty dose of pathetic bitch thrown in on top.

Find a tall building and jump from it, you'll be doing humanity in general and this thread in specific a big favor.

>>166680425
Sounds good enough.

>>166680587
Did these Dawi set themselves on fire by accident or what?

>>166680795
Dwarfs are retarded.

So probably.

>>166680795
Dwarfs are hardcore.

So probably.

>>166680607
I didn't mention /pol/ once. I went to /sci/, /Int/and /his/.

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>only elector count with a unique model
>even has a unique item
>there are people who seriously assume Boris isn't going to be the old friend

>>166680909
>>166680861
AAahhhh, which one is it now?
Retarded or hardcore?
Or are the hardcore retarded?
Or retardedly hardcore?

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These siege battles will be the death of me.

>>166680978
>/int/and /his/
You have to be at least on five levels of irony before you go to these boards.
I honestly don't know what you were expecting.

So stop being a cuck and stop bitching. Go back there and tell somebody that their mother sucks nigger cock and that they should kill themselves.

Also your mother probably sucks nigger cock on blacked.com.

>>166680795

Nah, I was fighting enemy Iron breakers

>>166680978

/pol/ is not and never has been contained to /pol/ alone and the board in particular you mention are in many ways satellite boards of /pol/, and you either already knew this or you're so new that you should probably just be getting the fuck out from this website entirely if some 6 gorrilion jokes or a few unironic nazis on /int/ are enough to make you shit your pants.

>>166680587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Beda3kFNjo

>>166681012
His unique item literally has a placeholder icon.
We will probably be getting Middenheim and Mousillon but neither really classifies as an old friend.

>>166681012
Marius Leitdorf has his own unique model I believe.

>>166668958
>End turn
>AE still not released
>End turn
>MK still not released
>End turn

>>166681330
How does insulting people help anyone. /Int/ I get, but I go on /his/ to try and learn something. Everyone is just trying to justify what they believe and that's it. I've been here for years and god damn what the fuck. Calling people cucks and telling them to kill themselves and so on its just so pointless.

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>>166681012

>>only elector count with a unique model

Ahem

And Marius was actually in the 8th edition armybook, unlike a certain dogfucking traitor

>>166682043
I'm quite sure he doesn't, which is a shame since he's a glorious motherfucker

>>166681354
Its /sci/ that got to me. I was expecting it to at least some kind of safe Haven but of course I should have known they'd want to justify it their.

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>>166682327
>>166682392

>>166682405

>I was expecting it to at least some kind of safe Haven

Well it looks like you expected wrong.

If you're looking for a website with "safe havens" then might I recommend tumblr.com

They're probably more your speed.

>>166682748
I'd probably get triggered by a Ham beast

>>166682327
>>166682460
I'd assume he's talking about ingame.

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We need more elf factions imo.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12205551

>m2 on very hard/very hard
>seek to remove Hungry
>after 2 turns 1 half stack turns into full stuck without any financial repercussions
not ok

>>166683657
Need them for what?
Think out your bait a little better.

>>166684381
>remove Hungary
>that glorious bastion that stands between you and fake Greek Byzantine shitters and roaches
Remove yourself first.

>>166684762


For diversity you fuckin dummy.

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>>166684839
Such baloney. I liberated them

>>166684914
So to make a cast of Humans, Chaos Humans, Goatmen, Stunties, Greenskins, Elves and Vampires more diverse your solution is to add more Elves?

>>166685050


6 human factions, 2 undead factions, billion dorf factions, crapload orc factions, gobbos, ONE elf faction.

>>166685270
>ONE elf faction.

That's how it is in the Old World you dingus.

>>166685270
there's 4 elf factions.

well 3 elf and one wood guy faction.

>>166685343

No fucking shit, time to open the world map ya dingus.

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>>166685270
What about a new race?

>>166685270
>>166683657

Its implied in the data mined stuff that High elves will be in the first expansion. But CA did come out and say that the info was outdated

https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/179907/the-data-mined-dlc-faction-list-analysed

>wh_exp1_def_dark_elves
>wh_exp1_hef_high_elves
>wh_exp1_lzd_lizardmen

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Is Warhammer worth it 60USD? I see there's also loads of DLC. Should I just wait until a complete collection comes out, if at all? After the Rome II fiasco I've been put off TW for a while.

>>166686246
>>wh_exp1_def_dark_elves
>>wh_exp1_hef_high_elves
>>wh_exp1_lzd_lizardmen

I always figured skaven would be included or after this expansion. Since they would be both in the old and new world.

>>166686252
There's usually a sale somewhere. Dlc i'd wait for a sale unless you actually want to play a faction in multiplayer or a campaign.

>>166680191
>ywn be a glorious bestigor warrior coming home from burning Middenheim to go fuck every member of your mixed human qt/doe harem

>>166686458

Skaven are apparently listed as a race pack in the files. Or so the guy has guessed. Chaos Manlets are named in the files too

>wh_dlc10_ska_skaven

>>166686246
I think it has been confirmed that they're working on more elf animations somewhere. And the New World is the only place to go that makes any sense.
>>166686252
Yeah probably, depends on how much $60 is worth to you.
I'd say wait for a sale. There might be a slight one when old world edition caps everything off, probably late feb.
Humblebundle sale JUST ended.
Get it off GMG if you can. They have a default 20% off everything. Though if somebody else could confirm that it is sold there I'd appreciate it. Even though I originally bought it from GMG, I can no longer find it in the store. Might be a localization thing for the Strayan store for whatever reason though.

>>166686458
>>166686670
It's primarily this that leads us to conclude that the russian leak is going to be false moving forward.

And it's a question of how much of CA's plan has changed.
Originally there were to be three standalone expansions that only unite when they've finished everything.

But with this much stacked in the first release, and the very literal statement of making sure the first expansion has as much or more than the original game on release(so they can charge full price probably), the original plan and what the leaks imply no longer make the most sense.

Most likely they will be joining the other three new world factions in the next expansion.

And it may indicate that there will be a united grand campaign immediately, as skaven are more relevant in the old world obviously.

Also Chaos Stunties are listed to appear BEFORE Ogres, which is so ludicrous I simply refuse to believe it.

>>166686670
>>166686458
It's pretty much guaranteed that Skaven will be in the vanilla release of the second game, when they shuffled around their schedule and did WE.

The first game had 4 factions at launch, so the second game will most likely have skaven moved up from a race pack, to being one of the 4 at launch.

>>166686252
You should wait for the sale or whatever. By that time you get a load of free dlc too.

>Marienburg owns 2 settlements
>is able to support 3 stacks and 6 hero units

why the fuck do people praise steel faith overhaul on here so much?

Is it even possible to confederate with DLC factions?
I had a moderate chance to confederate with Wurrzag and the Bloody Hands for one brief moment and now he wont budge at all. Sucking up to him with money gifts doesnt seem to help

>>166661223
No, they only real description of Attila describes him as east asian looking

>>166687795
Yes.

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What the hell do all these little landmarks around Bretonnia mean?

>>166688350
looks like a chalk carving into the earth of the local lords heraldry.

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>>166688350
ancient skaven

>>166687348
Marienburg starts with 20k gold in vanilla. They also have a special port that gives them a shitton of money. That's why you should always reclaim Marienburg(if you are the Empire)

>>166689542
what exactly is the lore behind Marienburg do they do anything other than just jew?

>>166689815
It's a independent merchant republic(De jure part of the Empire). They seceeded from the Empire by bribing the corrupt Emperor at the time. The Empire was also experiencing a rather big greenskin invasion so they couldn't do much about it. The Empire tried later to retake Marienburg, but the imperial armies were pretty much exhausted.

They have a huge and important port that trades with the whole world basically.

>>166690056
Not to mention its at the end of all the major empire rivers.

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Does Empire have any cheese strats?

Dwarfs
>Rune Lords + Dwarf Warriors + Quarellers/Thunderes + Bolthrowers/Cannons

Cunts
>Vladdy Daddy tuckering out multiple armies simultaneously with zombos and then winds of deathing them all

Beastmen
>Minotaur spam
>Morghur free Chaos Spawn spam

Wood Elves
>Wood Elves
>Like seriously silver shield tier 1 infantry who can be boosted to fucking godhood with almost 100 armor and 50+ melee defense, kys famalam

Greenskins:
>Skarsnick and/or Night Goblin Warbosses making shitty tire fire gobbos death incarnate
>Grimgor

Chaos
>Kohlek
>Manually aiming hellcannons

Empire
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>>166681184
You gonna do a lot better.

Revise your siege strategies and remember what mistake you did on previous siege battles.

>>166690190
Steamtank spam. Demigryph knights in general.

I keep fucking things up either with my economy, happiness, or military. So co uple of questions for you cool cats:

Whats a general good army composition? How m uch scouting do you put in for your armies when you assault a province?

What do you consider the midway and late game point in grand campaign? What turn?

Whats the general good way to build up territories? I typically will have a province with one territory acting as the military base and the rest purely built up for economy/research but it never really takes off.

Is there a decent way to conduct diplomacy as Vampire Counts? The dwarfs and humans always hate me and never seem to be ok, and the Orks are chummy until they want my boypussy.

>>166683657
>Beastmen Jacking off internally.

>>166690890

That's pretty late game though, you can all of the above rolling pretty quickly.