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Most tomb prospectors, members of the Healing Church chosen to explore the old thread, are unable to withstand the weight of the old knowledge, and go mad: >>164982003


>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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AWAY! AWAY!
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>>165054483
god dammit, I finally found another +31.5% blood attack gem for my gun and this time the curse is ATK DOWN -7.8%

fuck these two curses in particular
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^^^^
I don't know why he keeps posting this shit but whatever you do, do not give him (You)s
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YOU HUNTED
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ITS NOT FAIR! PC MADE SOULS POPULAR. IT STARTED ON PC

SONYGGERS RUIN EVERY SERIES! BLOODBORNE WOUKD BE BETTER USING KB&M WITH NAKED DOLL MODS
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I WANNA PLAY TOO, LET ME PLAY, I WANNA PLAY ON MY PC. GIVE IT TOO ME PLEASE.

FUCK YOU GUYS I'M GOING TO MAKE A PETITION, EVERYONE SIGN IT, I WANNA PLAY TOO
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>>165055179
>>165055316
Stop fucking falseflagging you faggot, its not amusing.
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>>165055153
Isn't that only for foreign people?
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>>165055046
Come on, it's not that bad. Atk curses piss us all off. He may be blogging a bit, but at least his post was on topic.
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>>165055046
Is it lucifedora posting his faggy webms again? I have him filtered but I'm certain he always posts them in the start of threads
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>>165053371

Well, I guess those umbilical cords weren't just for insight then. Hot diggity.
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>>165055693
Yeah, it's there. It's like clockwork, at the start of every thread, he's there, fueling his ego.
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Wich is your favourite gun and why
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>>165055954
Cannon.
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>>165055954
Rosmarinus even though I've never actually used it
Why? Link related
https://youtu.be/OaThr_PpHP4
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>>165055954
Blunderbuss, best for parries.
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>>165056138
>I've never actually used it
You should try it, it's great for finishing enemies in pvp and for dealing with large amounts of enemies
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>>165055954
Flamesprayer

First time I used it on my arc build I started fucking cackling

Actual gun, probably Blunderbuss for that rich crack and boom sound
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Give me your best Bloodborne memes
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>>165056754
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>>165056791
>kosm
It's Kos you retard, who the fuck says Kosm?
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>>165056870
True OG niggas say Kosm
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>>165056870
Kos or Kos, M(other) are both fine
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Doing Isz Layer 3 and then Ihyll. Password: "squid".
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>>165056754
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>>165055693
he apparently doesn't realize everyone has him filtered and those who don't never reply to him
All he can do is samefag
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>>165056754
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>>165056754
Imagine being Gehrman in that dream and having to be all like "damn, Good Hunter, you fuckin' good, all powerful with your ancient echos and horrific blood-drunk monster face. I would totally show you mercy, and let you use the Doll too if you like," when all he really wants to do is kill another 16-foot tall beast in the waking world. Like seriously imagine having to be Gherman and not only sit in that chair while the Hunter flaunts his disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing his bloodshot eyes and leathery skin, and just sit there, night after night, hour after hour, while he perfected that ritual. Not only having to tolerate his monstrous fucking visage but his haughty attitude as the Doll tells him she LOVES HIM and DAMN, HUNTER'S PRESENCE SOOTHES LIKE *THAT*?? because she's not the one who has to sit there and watch his abysmal fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been killing nothing but a healthy diet of beasts and extraterrestrials and later alleged scourge victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Yharnam. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on his dimpled stomache as he sucks it in to hide it shamelessly from the Doll, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get nothing to sit there and revel in his "statuesque (for that is what he calls himself)" emboldening, the emboldening he worked so hard for with hours of farming Lecture Building in the previous months. And then the Moon Presence calls for another night, and you know you could kill every single person in this dream before the next Hunter could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Gehrman. You're not going to lose your sweet release over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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>>165057221
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>>165057249
This read like the Notes From the Underground. Jesus.
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>no Bloodborne 2
>no Bloodborne Pro patch
>no Bloodborne DLC 2
>No Bloodborne Smash Bros clone
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>stuck in-between One Reborn's body and arms
>get kicked to death
I would be mad if this boss wasn't hilarious. All those legs kicking crack me up.
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Can i go to iosefkas clinic to pick up the summons and kill the little girl and send the beggar later to the clinic as long i don´t aggro her?
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Anyone want to do Lower loran chalice?
Ringing now at layer one, pass is bbg
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>NG+
>Go to fight Cleric Beast
>Nearly got my shit pushed in 3 times because I keep resting my finger lightly on L2 and become an agitated american cop

One playthrough later and I still haven't properly adjusted to controller
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Anyone notice that Amygdala's theme sounds a lot like Gehrman's?
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>>165057846
>and kill the little girl

Piece of shit.
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Chikage is pretty shit desu.
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>>165058284
But it looks cool.
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>>165058358
This
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>>165058358
>>165058443
Weebs please go.
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>>165058560
Watch your fucking mouth kid.
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>>165058358
No it absolutely does not
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>>165058284
Bloodtinge is a piece of shit in general, you can achieve double the effectiveness at half the effort with SKL or STR.
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>>165058238
Whos the little girl?
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>Are you a Hunter?
>Well, that's very odd.

What did he mean by this?
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>>165055042
FUCK that took kind of a long time. I got basically every other possibility of this gem two times over (as well as many useless bloodtinge scaling gems) before I *finally* found this single gem that I wanted (+31.5% blood with either stamina curse or durability curse). I used up literally 80 bold hunters marks and got 2 million blood echoes solely from sprinting to and killing a shotgun watcher over and over. Was it worth it? Not really, it only makes my evelyn do like 30 more damage than it did with my old gem that I got ages ago.

How does stamina curse even affect guns? It doesn't, right? What about durability?
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>>165059186
You're a sane hunter loose in the cell block, likely. He finds it hard to believe that you're both here and sane.
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>>165059629
While farming watchers, I always have a cup of bleach just in case it becomes to much to bear.
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>>165059569
this gem I mean
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>>165059629

Water because I am not a fat ass or a criminal.
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>>165059629
Water or coffee
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>>165059629
I only ever drink tea or water these days.
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>>165059629
i have a wall mounted salt lick i use while grinding
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>>165059629
Water
I gave up soda a few years ago, never looking back.
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>>165059965
It was by your side this whole time?
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>>165060139
no i got it a couple weeks ago
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>>165059620
Simon and the player are the only sane hunters in the nightmare right? and he kills simon and tries to kill us.
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>>165059629
Coffee, the nectar of the Great Ones
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>>165059629
milk
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>>165060420
More or less, yes. All other hunters physically present in the nightmare (not counting summons) are insane, trying to kill us, or both.
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>>165059629
Are you the same guy who spammed off topic shit in the last thread? You need to go back to >>>/v/.
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>>165060420
Djura's sane, by SJW standards. Eileen is also sane if you follow her quest.
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>>165060685
Djura is sane by sane people standards.
Hating the hunt is normal.
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>>165060674
I'd rather talk about drinks and music and other games than which ayy you faggots would fuck.
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>>165060685
Hunter's Nightmare, not waking world. In the waking world, also Alfred (to an extent) and Valtr.
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>>165060848
Oh, right. Yeah, HN's fucked.
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>>165060801
That's what /v/ is for.
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>>165059107
The one that gives you the music box
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>>165057750
>No secret depth 6 chalice filled with eldrich knowledge
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papa g > amelia > shdaows > rom > one abortion > best boy > mergo > gehrman

is the least amount of bosses you can fight right?
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>>165061098
You need to fight either cleric or BSB. Cleric unlocks the badge, BSB the elevator.
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>>165061098
you can end game after wet nurse, dont have to fight gehrman
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at what point can I start buying blood chunks with insight?
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>>165061147
oh cleric for the emblem you're right, idky I always forget that badge is what lets you buy that, thanks.
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>>165061090
He doesn't know.
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>>165060685
You could argue Djuras outlook is actually rather socially conservative in how it perceives "being human" or "being alive."
It's often more religious/traditional/socially conservative people who cling to threads of life, wanting to keep people on life support forever or not having abortions, etc. More so often it's liberals who advocate putting people "out of their misery" so to say. I should know, Dr. Kevorkian was a family friend.
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>>165061195
TOR I think.

I wanted Twin Shards so I killed Rom and TOR and I could buy both.
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>>165061301
This, I don't even get why people call him SJW or hippie
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OH YOU ARE A SICK PUPPY
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>>165062029
Because words lose all meaning on the internet
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>>165062029
The cynic in me wants to jump to people recently jumping into politics having been indoctrinated into neo-liberalist theory that there always needs to be a poor for there to be prosperity, to justify the subjugation of those less well off, even if that's sometimes themselves. They most likely see a man wanting to defend something with less of an ability to look out for itself as being similar to a nanny state or social servant. Somehow wanting to care for others has been twisted in to a negative thing in the contemporary political sphere, despite it being a positive tenant of almost all religions and philosophies (besides Ayn Rand).
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>>165061301
>>165062029
>>165062301
The best thing I can equate it to is like in those zombie movies where they don't wanna kill them because they USED to be human. The people morph into beasts, unsightly creatures, but they still ARE/WERE people at one point and for some people that's hard to get past.
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>>165062440
Funnily enough my friend was watching me run through Old Yharnam last night and we had a conversation about Djura and he brought up this exact point. I don't interact much with zombie media so I hadn't considered it.
Personally I can see both angles. But at the end of the day you have to act in self preservation. I wouldn't attack beasts unless they attacked me, but in that circumstance its kill or be killed. I like Djura though and sympathize with his feelings of guilt. No matter your outlook he and the beggar add interesting and meaningful perspectives to the central themes of the game.
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>>165062219
Who says that?
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>>165062029
Because SJWs are also, popularly, the ones who insist everyone is the same with no differences ever despite any evidence to contrary in way, shape or form. It's the fact Djura is calling something that does not look or act like a human being, a human being, is why he's called a deluded SJW hippie idiot. Djura says beasts dindu nuffin is the very brunt short of it, despite them being actively mindless and hostile unnatural mutants.

Zombies at least still look like people and that fucks you up, but pic related doesn't look like a fucking person. What's next, Brainsucker Lives Matter? All these people were victims, but there's other people who are still human to worry about.
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>>165062734
Exactly, I totally get the whole, BUT THEY'RE PEOPLE, THAT WAS MY (insert family member), etc. But like you said self preservation. They MIGHT have been a person, but they aren't anymore. Djura probably just doesn't wanna let that go. Maybe someone close to him turned.
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>>165062763
Anon your racism is showing.
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>>165062917
Racism on 4chan?
Fucking shocking.
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>>165062763
There is evidence that beasts are humans, we directly see people turning into beasts and beasts retaining human traits, such as Gascoigne reacting to the music box, Amelia holding her pentant or Ludwig straight up regaining conciousness and talking.
>Djura says beasts dindu nuffin
He doesn't, he's perfectly aware of the fact that beasts can be dangerous, which is why he wants normal humans out of Old Yharnam. He wants a hunt-free zone.
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>>165060848
Valtr? The Beast Eater? Mr. Kill and Slaughter to your hearts content, but don't forget to find bugs in the blood of your prey that ONLY YOU can see because you WANT to see them!!!

Yeah he's totally all there.

Vermin are the Vertebra Shackles of BB. Only crazy people can find them.
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>>165062858
My interpretation of these events after playing the DLC is that the Church hired the Powder Keggers to blow the living shit out of the district that had turned, burning it down and sealing it off to hide the scourge. Djura became especially aware of this and in a moment of self reflection considered he may be no better than a mass murderer. He's so stricken with guilt that he can't perceive his position or the event with clarity and rather than being upset at the church as he rightfully should be, he does the only small and complacent thing he can do while thinking he helps.
You see this a lot in modern politics too, people get angry at those lower down the chain rather than those making the decisions, and justify their positions with pure emotion.
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>watching Gehrman get out of his seat to fight me
>notice something I've never noticed before
>his left arm has armor on it and the right has leather, just like the elite Knight set
>now I can't wait to buy it
>kill him and go to the bath
>everything but his gauntlets are available
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>>165063170
That's really insightful actually. I can see that being what happened. And then he probably told whoever, "it is done" put up his sign and took up post guarding the people he most likely once knew.
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>>165062763
Kill yourself /pol/tard
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>>165062759
The Suspicious Beggar after he transforms.
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>>165063101
Okay, maybe he has a few screws loose, but at least he's not trying to kill us on sight. The killing aspect comes out of zeal for the hunt and the expulsion of Vermin, something he would greatly support given his "discovery" of Vermin after devouring a beast. He's nowhere near as bad as the Mound Makers or Hodrick, who call for killing other humans. He's not as much after the beasts as he is after the Vermin within them, similar to Gehrman seeing the hunt as a dirge of farewell, praying his victims would never awaken to that nightmare again. By killing the Vermin he frees the victims and beasts from the "curse." Beasts are a curse, and a curse is a shackle if you remember from Yamamura's insane babbling.
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>>165063170
There's no point in being upset at the church, by the time we meet him the church is already over with the exception of Mensis.
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>>165063170
Thats a hell of an image... Ludwig somehow comes off as a noble knight despite being a terrible, grotesque abomination on a carpet of dead and dieing...

Ludwig is probably my favorite boss of the DLC for that exact imagery... Maria is a badass, but damn Ludwig is just fucking terrifying and depressing at the same time.

And if any of you have ever told him the truth I hope you step on a mother fucking lego!
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>>165063574
We did tell him the truth. His hunters are the honorable Spartans he hoped they would be. Look at the Executioners, Tomb Prospectors, they all became the fearsome, hardy warriors he would have wanted.
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>>165063520
A fair point, it sort of shows that with the events of the game there really isnt a lot of blame to throw around. Stuff went bad, and got really out of hand. Who's to say who was really to blame and who had good or bad intentions?
Similarly to the real world, people usually act in good conscience and believe what they are doing to be the right or beneficial thing.
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>>165063518
He's just more deluded than the Mound Makers... or more cognizant.

The Mound Makers believe that the shackles of the gods are litterally inside people and they need to be killed to set free.

But Valtr's hunters are the same thing only more aware because going Beast is different from going Hollow. But none the less they are only finding Vermin because they want too, and the crazier they get the more they find. Look at the Madara twins.
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>>165063048
>muh safe space from the scary humans
What's next? Why do we let beasts get away with this?
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>>165064005
Get away with what, the beasts in Old Yharnam stay in Old Yharnam.
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>>165063048
The most clear evidence is the Suspicious Beggar who is perfectly conscious in his beast form.
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>>165063832
Are you insinuating that the Mound Makers are more sane than the League? Hodrick outright says "You'll go mad one day. But not today." It's inevitable for them, the same way that madness is inevitable for all hunters, not just the League hunters. Tomb Prospectors went insane because they couldn't handle the truths hidden within the Labyrinth, Cainhurst Knights became crazed with blood, Church hunters fell to the inability to ingest the knowledge of the Great Ones (scholars from Byrgenwerth and Mensis going the same way), and hunters lose it for a variety of reasons. They find the Vermin because it's essentially their job as a hunter to track down beasts and erase them; removing Vermin eliminates the beastly presence.
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What exactly are the vermin and why does a Madara twin attack you after reaching max rank with the league?
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>>165057036
Thanks, everyone. Or more precisely just one.

I'll try my hand at my very first FRC now with the same pass.
Oh I can't wait... hee hee...
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>>165064332
I think they're both fucking nuts. I just think that the MM are a bunch of crazy hollows by the time they start ripping out peoples spines, while the League are fully aware and still having tea after digging through the blood for invisible bugs. Don't get me wrong, they are all on the way to being heavily bloodaddled, and from there going full beast mode. But they are still pretty damn crazy.

I mean some MM are a little sane... Its shown in how once summoned they can choose to help or hinder... but come on, you'd have to be nuts to call on one of those Purple bastards and put your life into their hands.
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>>165064897
Purple bastards have got worse. They can now glitch their way into the boss room kek
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>>165064754
Ahhh
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>>165065065
Have they not patched that yet?
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https://twitter.com/piro00409435/status/818460059072020480
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>>165063347
Cry more libtard
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>>165065237
Don't think so
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>>165063347
>>165066073
Before you judge these anons, keep in mind that this is quite civil political discussion by 4chan standards
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>>165066073
>being liberal is somehow bad
let me guess, you're religious too and think being a wageslave is a good thing.
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>>165064754
Vermin are the parasitic organisms that cause beasthood. Too much, blood many vermin, they grow inside you, fuck you up. They're alien in nature.
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>not paying attention and die to a trap
>run back
>no echoes on the ground
>retrace my steps kill every enemy between lamp and where I died
>no echoes
>walk that path back and forth
>no echoes
>check the rest of the level
>no echoes

hmmmm
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>>165066293
Let me guess, you own an entire bookshelf of atheist literature and love making sweeping generalizations when you take a random comment personally, right?
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>>165066293
>let me guess, you're religious too
Burger detected
>think being a wageslave is a good thing.
Yep, definetly a burger
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>>165066557
wow you sure showed him
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>>165066293
>>>/r9k/
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>>165066668
How does it feel to live in a third world country, my man?
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>>165066504
This seems to happen to me anytime I fucked up the descent into the abandoned workshop.
If I over step or miscalculate and fall to my death my blood echoes just never show up again. My guess is an enemy in the tower above gets them or something. Once I looked and found nothing though, so who knows.
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>mauled by Laurence after I stagger slightly stepping on lava... yet again
I was one hit away already.
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>>165066250
ahah true
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>>165066864
I don't and i'm not even that dude you were arguing with. You're both morons but at least he doesn't just name call like a gradeschooler. He's right there's nothing wrong with being liberal though. Lots of people have lots of different views. You don't have to agree with him or argue with him and sway him to another side. But you shouldnt throw a tantrum about it either. Take your pol shit to pol and leave bbg out of it.
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>>165062763
Still it's not their fault if they get turned into beasts.
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>>165067202
>pol
>bbg
Newfag
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>>165066916
Yeah that's what I figured was something below me in the chalice dungeon got them but literally no enemy had then and no echo anywhere. Fuck me I guess?
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If I'm in NG+ can I do passworded coop with a friend in NG ?
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>>165067294
The only people who use the word newfag are new themselves. Good job outting yourself.
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>>165067313
If an enemy dosnt get it sometimes the blood pool is in a nonsensical location. The calculation of where that is seems really glitchy.
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>>165067424
>prosecutor's fallacy
Very newfag.
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>>165066341
You can find vermin in great ones too
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>>165067570
Since it's the root of man's impurity, it might have been as a result of contact with humans or the desire of humans to use and exploit their power.
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>>165067075
I would laugh at you for dying to those retarded mummies if it wasn't for that big reddish thing in the middle, that changes everything
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>>165067569
It's sad that you can't make one post without using childish insults. Go back to your containment board please.

>>>/pol/
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Vileblood or Executioner?
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>>165067681
>bad man go away
Stop whining, faggot.
perhaps r/bloodborne would be more your speed.
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>I'll mess up your grave!
Whats that supposed to mean
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>>165067876
vileblood
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>>165067876
Neither
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>>165067680
Nothing shows teamwork like a group effort
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>Beasts attack me on sight
>I defend myself because I don't want to die
>Beggar is conscious
>Still tries to kill me
Even if they're aware of their actions, they're trying to kill me. Fuck them.
>It wasn't their fault though! Muh moral grey area!
Deal with those thoughts in the grave once the beasties get you
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>>165067942
They're saying 'head' my man
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>>165067941
>>>/pol/
>>>/r9k/
>>>/b/
>>>/out/

pick one, they'll suit you more, you'll find others like you to talk to
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>>165067876
If you must choose, Executioner. Otherwise, stay hunter.
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>>165068063
Wow turns out i'm retarded, sorry
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>>165068076
Y'know, linking the three most popular boards in an effort to seem experienced doesn't work, especially when you don't seem to know what those boards detail.
Tell me, newfag, what does being a robot have to do with you being painfully fresh to the site?
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>>165068009
Beggar only ever transforms if you attack him though.
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if im not gonna savescum/farm autism gems for arcane an arcane build would i be better off with a pure strength build?
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>>165068296
Yeah you could send him to Oedon Chapel instead where he gets along so well with everyone else or to Iosefka's to become the first beastly ayyyy
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>>165068402
ofc, str build is like farming the three fatso over and over.
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>>165067365
yes
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>>165068576
i mean would an arcane build with regular gems (not full autism ones) still be better than a pure strength build?
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>>165068513
I'm surprised he got turned into ayyy and didn't kill her. Must have been spreading out his meals and she got to him first
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>only played Das1 for about one month
>playing Bloodborne since release
I don't even know why, I've done everything in the game.
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>>165068938
the memes anon, the memes
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>>165055954
Evelynn.
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>>165068849
Probably, or he was trying to gain her trust first since Iosefka can fuck shit up with that cane, and let her treat him first.
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>>165068938
probably because the combat and movement in bb is actually fun
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The stamina regen on the hunter rune doesn't actually do anything does it?
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>>165069469
Looks like you got memed on
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>>165068774
anyone got an answer for that? probably difficult to answer without it being a personal opinion on whats better but any inputs good
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What weapons benefit the most from STR scaling +65 gems? I mean versus just a +27% physical attack gem? I guess if the weapon has a higher base damage, then the STR scaling will make less of a difference compared to a +27% tempering?

I've heard that pushing your stats past 50 makes no difference for weapons scaling, but if you add +65 STR scaling to a weapon that already has an "S" rating in STR, are there diminishing returns? Would it be better to put it in a weapon with a "D" rating?
Thanks for the help
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>>165068774
Better in doing damage? No.
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When Yamamura is babbling in his cell, to whom was he referring? Specifically, "Shrouded by night, but with steady stride. Colored by blood, but always clear of mind.
Proud hunter of the church. Beasts are a curse, and a curse is a shackle. Only ye are the true blades of the church." He might be referring to Ludwig, who became clear of mind with the help of the HMS, and was cursed as a beast. Otherwise, I think it could be Brador, a Church hunter who represented its true face, cursed by beasts in that his garb was the scalp of one. It obviously isn't Yamamura himself, he's a member of the League.
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>>165070015
kek guess i wasted time with starting an arcane build then if im not gonna do autism gems
such is life in bloodborne
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>>165070253
He's referring to himself - or at least to all church hunters.
It seems like an equivalent to a battle prayer/chant, to keep the mind focused and suppress the beasthood within.
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skill or strength for FRC dungens
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>>165070253
I always thought he was reciting some shit like "the Church Hunter's Prayer" or something. It sounds like something the church hunters would have to memorize and recite before battles or at ceremonies or something.
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>>165070659
Why not both?
I personally vastly prefer str in pve. It's just so much more fun bashing the monster skulls in with a giant hammer/axe/whatever than chipping away at their health with hit and run attacks.
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>PS+ has auto-renewal on by default
That's some next level jewery.
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>>165070253
He is complaining that his and Gratias questline was cut.

>>165070659
Imo the high damage viscerals are a great help in FRCs
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>>165070778
He likely would have heard it plenty of times given his location, and his broken mind possibly latched onto it. He certainly isn't a Church hunter, using the Piercing Rifle and Chikage.
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>>165071194
wouldnt 50/25 str/skl give you decent viscerals and still get the great damage from whirligig for example?
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>>165071189
it tells you that when you buy it. you can turn auto renewal off, if you're capable of reading
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>>165071393
They'll be decent but not (almost) one shotting everything. Also with 50 skl and gems your skl weapons will deal perfectly viable damage.
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>>165071493
I didn't buy it, I'm still on my trial.
And the trial didn't seem to be accessible via the PS4 interface, or at least it was hidden somewhere deep in the subscription methods. I had to go to the PSN show web page on the PC and enable the trial there.
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>>165071569
is there any real benefit in doing str then?
apart from the weapon variety
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>>165071784
You can stagger most enemies. With Kirk for example you can just r1 smash against gascan in beastform and you'll stunlock hin until your stamina runs out. Beast cutter is great for cheesing stuff from medium range. Hunters Axe still has the spin to win and high regain. Every build in this game is roughly as strong as the others except that you don't have to farm for offshapes or abyssals on a skl build.
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>>165068063
>>165068142
Arnt they saying "I'll mash up your brain"?
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>tfw setting all the elevators in mergos perfectly so i can make a circuit without having to pull any levers while running around to fuck with he invader
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>>165072834
Mess up or mash up, I think it's mess up.

I'LL MESS UP YOUR BRAIN
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Aight bros, it's been a while but I'm back. I'm running through NG+ right now, but I'd like to get better gems for my HMS. I vaguely remember needing to grinding a chalice dungeon for nourishings, but can someone fill me in on the details or point me to a resource on it?
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executioners r gay
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>>165073336
>point me to a resource on it?
Read the OP.
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>>165071760
It's literally in the ps+ icon on the dashboard.
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>>165070659
str burns through most bosses better because its weapons (namely whirligig) make good use of pellets
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>>165073540
Yes yes, I know it's in the OP but there's so much in the OP that I'm not sure what I'm actually looking for. Info dump OPS are unfortunately not useful, especially when I'm not sure what I'm looking for.
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The range of the beast cutter is just ridiculous.
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>>165073741
>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
>Gems
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>>165069986
If you have 50 STR and 25 or under SKL it's worth putting one on nearly anything (except maybe Ludwigs Holy Blade, but I'm not sure)

Heavies work wonders on high damage weapons because scaling is a percentage increase. A 100 damage base weapon with 1.00 scaling and 99 STR would do 200 damage, but a 50 damage base weapon with the same scaling would only do 100. This is why the arcane damage on Blades of Mercy is useless. No matter how good the scaling the base is so low you'll never reach meaningful damage.

This is the formula for damage.

{[Base damage + (base damage * STR saturation) * (STR scaling + base damage * SKL saturation * SKL scaling)]* %gem1 * %gem2 * %gem3 * ATK modifier} + flat damage = final attack value before defense.

If a Heavy Abyysal without flat damage gives higher AR than %gems then it's always going to be better. But with flat damage being the only thing making it higher you need to check ATK multipliers and see which ones do worse. If a +65 scaling +15 flat is better by 1-2 AR it's not worth it, because anythibg higher than 1.0x multipler will actually be worse.
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>>165073853
Yeah and there's like 6 links there, all to information dumps themselves, but since you're just being difficult about it I think I'll just drop the line of questioning in general.
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Anyone up for a coop through all the layers pf Great Pthumeru Ihyll Chalice? It could be fun, starting first layer, pass: kosm
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>>165074009
reading isn't hard anon
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>>165074009
Not him, but the first OP link is really all you need. It exists due to the bloated nature of the rest of the OP links. This is what you're looking for:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848

Have a scroll through that, everything is more or less colour-coded and divided up neatly, look for types and shapes of gems you need for your HMS, choose a chalice and get farming.
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>>165073336
Nourishing gems
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>>165066504
Happened to me in central pthumeru last night. Died to BPS and neither of the enemies in in the room between the lamp and arena were holding it and it wasn't in the boss room where it should have been either.

It was 20k on my brand new build.
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>tfw healers in pvp when you arnt healing because youre not a pussy
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Is it worth making a build? Is the PvP as active as DaS2?
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What outfit looks the best with the Church Pick?
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>>165074105
I tried but it's not connecting.

>>165074393
Thank you, anon.

>>165074354
So I'm looking at this one, and it's all damage + 19.3% and I have to kill some gargoyles in level 2. Is that a 100% thing, or is it jsut a chance? Am I going to have to grind that dungeon over and over? Also, as far as secondary effects and curses go, are there particular ones I should go for with HMS? I'm using the Lost HMS, and I'm actually not 100% why, but I think I read somewhere that it was the best version for overall equal usage of its moveset?
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>>165074009
You go on this side and check what gems you want http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/best-blood-gems-setups.html?m=1

You check this spreadsheet and search for the gems you want https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true

You start farming

>>165074607
>caring about healers
>not letting them burn through all their vials and finishing them off

>>165074615
There is always a fightclub on saturday. Mensis is usually active. Twinking in forest might still work. At ~55 you might get action in Nightmare Frontier.
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How would you guys rate this build? Anything i should change?

Primary weapons are Holy Moonlight Sword and Kirkhammer
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>>165074769
Could you try just once more ? :(
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>>165075030
Sure thing. Are you getting fucked down there?
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>>165074840
>Bl150
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>>165074769
Nourishing gem (6) if it's 5 discard it.
Atk up 19.3%
Atk vs open foes 5.4%

Curse whatever fits your usage
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>>165074840
25 END is a waste. Move 5 points into ARC.
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>>165074840
oof
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>>165075070
Not really but mob is pretty tanky so I guess the boss is going to have a good pool of hp
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>>165075119
What is an "open foe"? when they're in the state where they can be visceral'd?

>>165075185
You're set to worldwide and kosm as your pass, right?
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>>165074840
>150
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>>165075249
Counter attack basically
Like counter hits from Dark souls
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>>165075249
Yes sir, ringing beckoning bell in Layer 1
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>played through the game 5 times including dlc
>always used SKL weapons
>decide it's time for my first STR build playthrough
>pick up the kirkhammer and head for gascoigne
>get my shit pushed in like a redditor 5 times

how the fuck do I git gud with slow weapons goddamn
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>>165074840
0/10
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>>165075316
Oh okay. That sounds useful as I trade quite a bit.

>>165075361
Also I have to ask, I went into NG+ before I quit playing last year. Do I have to open all the chalices again to have them searchable in SRRCs?
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>>165075098
>>165075298
>>165075384

I dont rly wanna do pvp. Mainly pve and coop
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So I got a new ps4 and found out that your characters aren't stored online...

I'm thinking of making a BT build because it's the only one I've never played. Are there still enough people online for jolly co-op?
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>>165075453
That's a question I have no idea how to answer sir, but I think chalice progression stays on ng+
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>>165075505
If you don't want to downscale then you still should be lower.
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>>165075598
>So I got a new ps4 and found out that your characters aren't stored online...

unless you're using PS+s cloud save feature why would they be...
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>>165075598
I'm down to fuck for escorting you all I can, but I entered NG+ so I'm quite limited at the moment, gotta push through. I'm currently at old Yharnam.

>>165075621
I still have all the chalices, so there's that.
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>>165075598
Yes.
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>>165075687
Is it even possible to do a lower decent Holy Moonlight Sword build?
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>>165075749
Don't worry sir, if it doesn't connects there's nothing to do, maybe another day, but thanks for trying !
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>>165075939
>sir
>anime
Beautiful
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Am I being a shitter if I go BL100 with a ARC build?
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>>165076079
No, quit worrying about that.
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>>165076079
You are a shitter if you level above BL4
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>>165075453
Here anon this is what use just for reference
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cant decide whether to do a str or arc build. halp.
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>>165076319
Do both, swing that HMS around like Ludwig before he became a horse.
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>>165076319
Both 50/50 with 20 end, 35 vit the rest base
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>>165075698
I guess I'm just used to other online games that do it.

>>165075749
Lol thanks for the offer, I'll be hanging around this thread so I'll let you know if I need an escort.

>>165075753
I see that this general is alive but strangers too? My preferred way to grind echoes is ringing the resonant bell and helping randoms.
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>>165076198
what the fuck
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>>165076319
STR, you get to use the same weapons but with less farming
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>>165076319
i want to focus on co-op and dungeons in particular if it matters
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>>165076198
no gay shit in here
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>>165074607
Just kill them, healers are usually shitters
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>>165075809
Absolutely.
50 vit
15 end
45 str
25 skl
25 arc
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>>165076295
Is that Weapon durability down a problem? I can't remember if durability is an issue. Also is that beast attack down a problem?

>>165076425
I'll keep an eye on it, unless I'm watching a AGDQ run I'm liking.
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>>165076425
its not an online game like diablo 3 where your characters are on a server, it's a game with online features
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>>165076425
Yep, strangers are very active too, with the Christmas holiday just passed and all. SRRC and DLC areas are particularly popular.
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>>165076396
>>165076406
>>165076434
forgot to mention i want to stay in the SL98 meme so 50/50 is out of the question
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>>165076498
Durability imo it's fine
Beast down is ok for pvp not pve
Durability down doesn't stack iirc which is nice
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>>165076595
What's the thing with 98? I have a 100 BL build, did I fucked up ?
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>>165076712
98 is the /bbg/ meta maymay thanks to hundreds of hours of research into memes,cum,lore,blood dregs, church documents and the cosmos
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>>165076712
98-117 is fine. Level above and you're a fagit
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>>165076712
98-117 is the usual /bbg/ meta
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>>165076873
Daily reminder dlood dregs = cum; Annalise is inpure
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>>165076895
did you spell your trip wrong, lucifer?
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>>165077049
daily reminder that youre a cunt

im a vileblood
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Is it even worth building an arcane build for PvE?

If not, what are the next best builds next to pure SKL and pure STR??
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>>165065237
>patching something that should have been included
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what would be better for HLMS for pve, 50str/25arc or 25str/50arc
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>>165077137
Daily reminder hunter of hunters is the best "faction", your work os useful if not the best, top tier hunters, not vileblood edgelords or executioner fggts, not broccoli milkweeds, etc
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>>165077268
>Is it even worth building an arcane build for PvE
Yes, arcane is probably the best since it lets you exploit the enemies weakness with elemental damage, gives you the largest selection of weapons and lets you cheese enemies with Blacksky Eye and Executioner's Glove
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>>165077268
ARC is god-tier in PvE.
>>165077316
Read the thread.
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>>165076657
Unfortunately this character is a PVE hunter designed at co-op. I guess durability is cool, since I can't remember ever repairing an item. I'm 220/250 even and I've played several levels and have no idea when I repaired, so it can't be that bad. But yeah, if not beasts, what should I go for? Kin? Since I use the Church Pick on kin iirc.
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>>165077370
>currently a vileblood memelord
>agree with your statement 100%
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>>165075505
If you want to do PvE then you don't need a build. If you want to coop, you still want to be lower to not get downscaled
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>>165077453
Kin is fine
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>>165077472
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>>165077114
No I actually help people.

>>165077268
If you like using tools. Arc is great for coop though because one guy can fight the boss and the other shreds it with arc tools from the distance.

>>165077453
With a dura down curse you'll have to repair everytime you return to the dream. Iirc you can do around two chalice dungeon layers before your weapon will break.
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>>165077438
>Executioner's Gloves
Maybe I'm not using them right, but those things seem useless. BSE and AoE are mainly what I use but EG mostly seems like a waste of bullets. ACB usually feels like that too, since its damage is so damn spotty. Can you give some advice about usage of EG and ACB?
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>>165077636
Also I really would like to use Tiny Tronitus because ZAP MOFUKKA but it also seems underwhelming.
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>>165077446
>HMS
that stuff was assuming a higher BL aim though, I preferably want to stick at the 98 meta if i can
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>>165077761
Keep reading the thread.
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>>165077864
there was one but it was way above 98
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>>165078172
Do you like using beams or the sword more? Untricked or tricked more?
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>>165075939
>>165076018
>>165076198
Is "sir" some kinda trap/sissy thing now?
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>>165078321
havnt tried it, i just want the most out of it for pve at the 98 meta
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executioners r gay

>tfw this will be the last time i post this because I realized vilebloods are actually plebs
>tfw executioners aren't much better though
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>>165078901
At least executioners were a one time thing and aren't actively evil, Vilebloods damn well know what they're doing.
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>>165078524
It's going to be tough to stay at 98 without making sacrifices leaning towards either physical or arcane, or sacrificing other stats like vitality.
Either 50/25 or 25/50 is viable at that level, but because of the way the weapon works, the first will have stronger physical attacks while the second will have stronger arcane attacks.
25/50 at least lets you use the Wheel, as well as many converted weapons and plenty of hunter tools to boot. I'd go with 25/50 for all that alone.
But if this is for PvE, why stop at 98? You can hit a bit higher if you're worried about co-op and level ranges. Going up to ~120 isn't too bad.
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>>165077370
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When is it determined that I can buy ritual blood from the messengers? I am able to buy up to ritual blood(2) and then a couple ritual blood(5)'s but no 3s or 4s?
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>>165079042
yeah, and thinking about it this would allow me to fuck things up early game with tonitrus?
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>>165079287
Yeah, 25/50 works for the Tonitrus as well. Early game, a Tonitrus, a Fire Saw Spear, and a Flamesprayer can get you far. You'll get access to good hunter tools later, which are always useful.
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>>165076198
Cute!
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>>165079042
oh and i do eventually want to pve when i have afew meme gems which is partly why i want to stop at 98. how does 44/15/25/9/5/50 sound?
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>>165079207
check the wiki
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>>165077370
That's not how you spell The League...
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Was Miyazakis name plastered on Dark Souls 3 just to create hype?
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Anyone up for some low level spelunking? Ringing in layer 1 pthumeru pass hunt
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>>165079767
>>165079767
Not bad, but remember that HLMS needs at least 12 SKL to be wielded. You'd have to add 3 points, which would bring your build to BL101.
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>>165080214
fuck. would 41 vit still be enough?
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>still having trouble deciding whether to do 50 arc with autism gems or 50 strength with autism gems
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>>165080302
Definitely on the low end, but you can manage with the runes.
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Do the Chalices ever get 'fun'?

I'm currently going through all the fixed ones and it's boring as shit. Admittedly, I'm vastly overleveled, but the same tileset with about 5 different rooms is getting really boring.
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>>165080659
arc
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i just read the addon is oly this hard because its designed to play in coop.

is that true?
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>>165080773
FRC spelunking is a blast. Once you get your gems, you're free to explore the toughest depth 5 chalices. Always cool shit to see
>>165080924
Definitely not. Some of the bosses are challenging on their own right, and I'm not sure why anybody would believe that the DLC was specifically designed for co-op.
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>>165080924
This isn't DaS2 my sweet child.

>>165080773
Fixed dungeons no, you will just gitgud an finish them faster. Depth 5 FRC roots are the fun part.
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is kos luci?
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>>165080773
The bosses like Blood-letting Beast, Abhorrent Beast and Watch Dog are fun and worth doing chalices for.
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>>165081397
No I just post exactly like him and shill my dank 28str bloodtinge build. I just forget to take off my trip after I post something important.
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Anyone give me a hand with hotdog in the first pth chalice? I know theres no way in hell im gonna be able to beat him at my level. Doing chalices early because i'ma masochist. Pass is bbg at the 3rd layer lamp
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first time using the bbp+paper+saw on amelia with a new character holy shit that health bar fucking melted
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>tfw people with chikage wearing executioners clothes
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>>165079948
Didn't Miyazaki only design Paarl?
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>>165082361
>tfw people who unironically use wagon wheels as weapons
Unbelievable
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>>165082480
Paarl is the boss he designed on his own, without letting other people berate him. I think in the guide scans is an interview which is the source. The guide is in our OP isn't that great?
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>>165054771
Damn i keep missing FC's

P O S T
W E B M S
P L E A SE
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>>165081973
You still there?
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>>165082861
ringing now just died
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>>165082861
>>165081973
Yeah, we almost took it down
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>>165082974
Omw
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>>165056138
what the fuck the rosmarinus sounds like that ? spooky stuff, i only use if for no longer than 5 secsonds
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>>165082976
yeah sorry about that that really shouldn't have hit me I was clearly beyond his body by a few feet but whatever
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>>165073194
i blank the fuck out of there if the host is not in the arena and i cant kill him before the pigs, you guys do the same ?
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>>165083016
>>165082976
thanks you two, now on to the next one, wish me luck
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>>165083648
Np
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>>165083379
not a single person has, they seem to be extremely determined :^)
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>>165075098
>That one shred of humanity left in his left eye
My feels...
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>>165084143
>then you realize he uses that last shred to be able to shitpost on /bbg/
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>>165083987
surely that 1 insight is not worh that much
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>>165084257
>I wouldn't have done anything better with it either
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>>165084386
10pm and i have nothing better to do
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>>165084445
>ps4 broke
>no job
>no money

online courses it is, thankfully i was getting borred of bb pvp, its just not the same
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>>165084848
why isnt it the same?
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How's 40/40 SKL/BLT for a bowblade build? I wanna use other SKL weapons as well, but I'll mostly be using the bowblade.
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dead /bbg/
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How much fun is the Forbidden Woods? What am I in for, bros?
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>>165086045
>40/40
The fuck? What is this dark souls?
Go 50 or go home
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>>165086180
I'd rather stay below, so 45/45 is the highest I can go with 40 VIT
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>>165086165
you might be given the business by the snek people
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>>165086165
Good area, but very long
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>made a twink
>feel extremely awful every time I kill someone
I can't
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>>165086165
I hope you like snakes

dumb frog poster
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>>165086165
It's one of the best areas in the game, mostly because the correct path isn't entirely spelled out. Just be ready for snakes of all shapes and sizes in the second half. And find Valtr, he's down there.
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Anyone farming nourishings that want a farming buddy?
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>tfw theres no way to see how many hours youve clocked in total on bloodborne unless youve kept all your characters
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what is everyone's strength weapon?
what about skill?
Most satisfying charge attack?
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>>165086509
>make a twink
>ring sinister bell in early areas such as Forbidden Woods and Hemwick
>everyone I invade/get invaded by out-twinks me
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>>165086754
>Main character's clock is maxed in the character select

Even then it can be hard to tell.
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>>165086768
>what is everyone's strength weapon?
Whirligig Saw
>what about skill?
Beasthunter Saif
>Most satisfying charge attack?
tricked Stake Driver
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>>165086509
>get HoH summoned to some guy's Fishing Hamlet
>the poor bastard is clearly a shitter, wearing standard Hunter garb with LHB
>doesn't know I'm hostile
>waves to me and acts all happy
>can't bring myself to kill him
I just blanked out. HoH summons are so heart wrenching sometimes, realizing that I could have come in as a normal cooperator and a friend to the host. It's weird looking at them and wondering how much fun you would have had together during the session, but now you're here to kill them.
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>>165086768
pizza cutter
Pick
PIck, fantastic on both forms
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>>165086879
whats the maximum?
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Would anybody be willing to put up with a level 34 that isn't 100% familiar with Ludwigs moveset? I've only got 14 vit.

I can stay out of the way if it's an issue but I've never fought him underlevelled before and usually stomp him in both phases.
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>>165086768
Wheel
Burial
Boom Hammer
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>>165087115
999:59:59
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>>165087130
Absolutely. Pass and ring location?
>>
Would you have wanted to see scripted invasions like in the Souls games? Maybe Cainhurst Knights invading at Cainhurst, Choir hunters invading in the Loft, things of that nature. That missing element could have been enjoyable, adding a further challenge from the NPC hunters.
>>
Rom anyone?
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>>165087263
No, hunter fights suck dick.
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>>165087260
I'm logging on now and I'll be at the fog ringing with bbg
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>>165087305
Pass? Ng/ng+ ?
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>>165087305
which one?
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>>165087358
Nice, anon. I'll be there
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>>165087461
ng pass is spooder at the burger lamp
>>165087473
story
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>>165054890
Oh Good Hunter, have mercy on that poor bastard!
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>>165087568
omw
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>>165087461
>ng/ng+

d-does that matter? Ive been trying to connect with a friend to no avail.
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>>165087568
Shit was not expecting that
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>>165087358
I'll join too
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>>165087782
I laughed
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I wish Ludwig's fight wasn't such a goddamn clusterfuck so you could actually enjoy the music. The second part of the song is absolutely fucking glorious.
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Underestimated the range
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>>165087263
PvP and vs. AI Hunters in this game is utter shit. It's either a shitfest of parry-baiting or STUNLOCK STUNLOCK STUNLOCK

Sometimes you get some great shit, but 90% of the time it's either cheese, someone who clearly doesn't know what they're doing, or someone who just blanks out the second they're summoned.
>>
>>165087263
if they would not make the lore even more of a mess then sure, then again everyone does everything with a friend these days
>>
rip rom
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>>165087719
>>165087782
remove spooder
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>>165088093
how else could you beat a hunter with x 5 the normal health and double damage, try killing coldsteel with style
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>>165087624
Defiled Amy deserves it.
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>>165087864
I love the game's OST, but you have to admit that it's a bit overblown. You have to turn game sound down just to hear the music half the time, and all of the fights are so fast-paced that you just can't focus on it as anything other than background noise. I think Dark Souls struck the perfect balance between being video game music, and tone/setting music. Demon's Souls also did it really well, especially with stuff like Flamelurker or Maiden Astraea.
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Thanks to the guys that helped with Ludwig. It was a treat to participate in. I stayed out of it in second phase because i probably would have been one shot
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>BB2 is out
>last boss is The Plain Doll
>fights with paleblood magic
>second phase her face cracks open
>after you defeat her the secret final boss shows up
>a giant squid called The Good Hunter
>second phase kicks in and it transforms back into a human
>The Last Hunter
>uses different last game weapons and tools to match your new weapons and playstyle
>DREAM SLAIN
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>>165088326
its the same for orphan, all you get with the default sound options is AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGGGHHH
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>>165088563
Cheers, and thanks for having me, anon.
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>>165088654
>ENDING CUTSCENE
>YOU WERE THE OLD MAN AT THE BEGINING ALL ALONG
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>>165088654
>BB2 is out
>it sucks
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>>165088563
No worries m8
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>>165088326
Dark Souls bosses also weren't always attacking 99.999% of the time, so you could stop and look around and realize that there's music playing. Neither Bloodborne nor DaS3 had that luxury.

Bloodborne's music is extremely fitting once you listen to it on its own, though. Gascoigne's theme is absolutely fucking perfect for setting the tone of the entire game, the concept of "patient, metered combat that eventually leads into a beastly, manic fuckfest"
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>>165088832
>>
>>165088654
>from
>sequels not sucking ass on a straw
>>
>>165088654
Please no, this is fanfiction tier
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>>165089157
Just with Souls. Back in the Armored Core days, the "sequels" were always infinitely better. Master of Arena was far better than AC1, Another Age was better than AC2, and Silent Line was fucking MILES ahead of AC3.
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Ringing a ding ding at one reborns fog

pass is abortion
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is there a worse enemy than bell maidens with their red spiders?
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>>165087864
am I in the minority for liking orphan and maria's fights (and soundtracks) more?
maybe because I had "my guiding moonlight" spoiled
>>
>>165089271
i see, i wish they would try other things besides soul-esque games, let it die drained all the joy i get from those
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>>165087864
His theme only shines when his screams are all over it.
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>>165089525
Maria's fight is my favourite.
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>>165089367
>is there a worse enemy than bell maidens with their red spiders?
Yes.
TWO bell maidens with red spiders.
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>>165089584
>playing chalice dungeons: the game
You brought this on yourself
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>>165089719
You're not wrong, but I'm just gonna mention the flame-breathing, stun-immune dogs that always come in pairs with a fire witch in loran chalices.
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>>165088654
>First phase is giant eldritch cthulhu monster called something like "The Host of the Dream"
>"Second" phase after health bar is comletely delpeted turns into the poster boy hunter, name changes to "the good hunter," he's not even massive like Maria or Gherman but just looks like a regular old NPC
>First phase is basically just an NPC fight with him switching between saw cleaver, hunters axe, and cane
>Second phase has him sprout a few tentacles, most his attacks are highly modified versions of whatever weapon he switches to and hunters tools
>Music is an edited version of the Dream's theme
Muh dick would be so hard
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>>165089864
i was convinced it was something else at launch, at least you keep your shit in chalice dungeons when you die
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>>165089719
>tfw in one of the story loran chalices that happens
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>>165089271
>Back in the Armored Core days, the "sequels" were always infinitely better
Miyazaki only directed one AC. The Armored Core days are over, From is completely different now.
>>
>>165088326
Only screaming bosses have this problem, and not every boss does this.

Gascoigne's fight has fantastic music. Micolash's is pitch perfect for the character. Wet Nurse's lullaby is incredibly atmospheric. Gehrman's theme is tragic and beautiful, I'd say the same for Moon Presence. There's other main game bosses that don't scream, too, like Rom, One Reborn, Amygdala, Logarius, Shadows.

I think the DLC's best music implementation - if not the whole game's - is Living Failures, when the choir kicks in during their meteor attack. Orphan's introduction, walking down the beach with that terribly sad music is amazing, but then YEEOOOOW.
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>>165089525
Orphan's first phase is lovely. Also, I enjoy Laurence's, Orphan's, and Living Fayylures' themes more than Ludwig's.
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>>165090079
>Only screaming bosses have this problem
>implying it's a problem
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>>165089864
now that you mention that relation, i wish BB had gestures like LiD, that was the only fun part
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>>165089891
>Dogs of any kind
Shoot and hit as they stand
Just lure them one by one friendo
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>people who didn't play Bloodborne with a good headset trying to discuss the sound design
This is the funniest shit I've ever read in /bbg/
>>
I want to try a arcane build but do they focus only on the tools and put the weapons aside?

I like using the weapons and tools only doesn´t seem very appealing, whould it be possible to use a LHB or a HMGS on a arc build?
>>
>yharnam hunter cap has stupid shoulder-piece that clips with 99% of torso armor
why can't it be just a mask and a hat like the hunter hat REEEEEEEEEEE
i really hate the burnt up part of the hunter hat
>>
One Reborn will forever be my worst and most hated boss
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>>165090267
Bloodborne isn't that kind of game
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Will /bbg/ be playing Nioh? I'm afraid BB online will die a bit once Nioh drops, lots of fans are looking forward to it.
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>>165086768
>str weapon
Whirligig

>skl weapon
BoM

>charge attack
Kirk
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>>165090423
are you memeing me?
>>
What's the easiest way to beat the hot dog? It's the boss that gives me the most trouble. Trying to do an arcane build right now and he's fucking me up.

I rolled cruel fate and have all starting stats except 41 arcane.
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>>165090423
Arcane is amazing
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>>165090573
is it actually good? i've only seen webms but none of it seems interesting
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>>165090637
Invest in vitality and bop his head till it breaks. You can bait the head swipe attacks by standing in front of him.
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>>165090678
whirligig saw with beast pellets and fire paper > fire converted things with tools
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>>165090573
I don't even really know what Nioh is but the gameplay doesn't look that appealing to me.
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>>165090573
>I'm afraid BB online will die a bit once Nioh drops
DS3 and its DLC are out and the online is still fine, it's retarded to think that a minor game like NiOh will affect it in any way.
>>
>>165090580
I feel like i should have went axe or kirk instead of LHB. Really starting to get bored of it
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>>165090637
Break his head armor then spam magic
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>>165090476
>has a move where he runs you over and you can't get up like the pigs

FUCK

OFF
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>>165090785
It's just because it's at 10 I think, I feel like I'm fighting it in the defiled chalice again.

Would anyone care to summon in, Olek doesn't do a got damn thing
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>>165086768
Ludwig's sword
Burial blade
Church pick or stake driver
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can anyone help with defiled hot dog? pass is poop69 and am ringing at fog
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>>165090974
What BL? I'm working on a BL120 character
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>>165090782
It's made by the Ninja Gaiden devs, so probably
>>
>>165090782
I played the alpha and beta. It's a lot of fun. It's like ninja gaiden game with sort of souls elements e.g. bonfires, summoning, gathering their version of souls, etc. It also has elements of a diablo. I don't remember any pvp in it though
>>
>>165091098
*Elements of a diablo loot system. Random stats
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>>165091079
102
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>>165086768
Fuck strength
Church Pick
Church Pick
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>>165090887
I'm going to ring bell anyway
Pthumerian chalice layer 3
Pass bbg

I just want the damn gems so I can continue my arcane run
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>>165090801
Fire/bolt/arc
Wide array of tools to use
My personal favorite is Kos Parasite
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>>165091250
Alright, I'm about to start ringing at the fog door
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>>165091458
dope! thanks mang
>>
my arcane build uses tonitrus because i like to touch myself
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>>165091458
holy shit i hit the wrong fucking button and ended up killing myself... try again?
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>>165091518
Ringing again, we gon' get him
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starting a new arcane run, havent played in awhile, been playing souls. should i dump all points into arcane like the guide says at first or should i get some vitality and endurance in?
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the fact that I've played this game for 300 hours and still suck at it makes me want to neck myself
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>>165091886
arcane then vit
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>>165090573
I know I won't. I was highly unsatisfied with the alpha and beta. Combat was okay. A little too busy with the other mechanics. Lethality is absurdly high. Zero atmosphere. Coming from Bloodborne, it feels like a well made knock off, but a knock off. It's just not the real thing.
>>
>>165091806
Welp, I fucked up that time. We got him pretty low though, hopefully everything works out.
>>
>>165091806
FUCK. one more time?
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>tfw no sword that tricks into scissors
>ywn give Amelia a haircut
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>>165091937
You just gotta find what works well for you, what weapon and runes help you survive, and then thrive.
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>>165092174
I'm ringing.
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>>165092161
i died like a BITCH right after you... lol. im normally not this shitty
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>>165091952
currently 10 vitality and 14 arcane.
6 points to allocate.
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is savescumming absolutly neccesary for the top tier fire gems?
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>>165092287
i swear im going down in shitter history
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>>165092302
Just keep trying. This shit took me so many tries that I had to take a break to keep from tossing the controller.
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>>165092264
I've always used fast weapons, but the moment I put on a heavy weapon I just return to shitter mode, I don't understand it.
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>skip in the woods still working
>skip in yahar'gul still working
Someone knows if it's still possible to glitch Shadows?
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>>165092517
holy fucking shit thank you so much d00d
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>>165092972
Have fun with defiled Amy :^)
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>>165092821
Why glitch them when you can bone them
>>
Chikage is not fun.
>>
So why are vilebloods bad? It's not like the churches blood is any different to vileblood's blood right? They both mess you up pretty bad.
>>
>>165093085
Where's your motivation?

Also bloodtinge. It's a fucking awful weapon without at least 25+ BT. That's when the big numbers start showing up.
>>
>unironically using arcane instead of whirligig saw and bbp
>>
>>165093065
>use it against Merciless Watchers
>nothing happens
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>>165092363
Savescumming is absolutely necessary for the best gems, period. But unless you're an autistic PVP madman, you don't need the best of the best, those few extra numbers.
>>
>>165093270
I feel like arcane would be better if there were ways to get QS back without chunking part of your HP. Augur + Writhe is alright, but still not good enough.
>>
>>165093420
dont you need autist gems to be able to be able to do more damage than high str and a whrligig saw though?
>>
>>165093519
The game is not all about damage.
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>>165093431
How do you even go through the 120 bullets you can potentially use between restocks?

>>165093519
Your all-low caps betray the intrinsic retardedness of your question.
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>>165093150
Well, the wanton murder of hunters to attempt to find Blood Dregs that do as much for the queen as the Pale Tongues do for Rosaria might have something to do with it. They're essentially evil in every aspect.
>>
>>165092772
Heavy weapons require timing more than anything. Let them come to you instead of rushing in. You'll always be playing slower with heavier weapons, it s tricky.
>>
Do you lose chalice progress in NG+?
Also which dungeons should I be going after for "the best" gems? I'm already at BL120, I figure I may as well just min/max for co-op shittery since I have no interest in PvP
>>
>>165094264
Nope
Check the op for gems, glyphs are included as well.
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>>165094264
No, you keep chalice progress.
Read the OP for gems and glyphs.
>>
>>165094415
>>165094365
Aw fuck, I figured it'd be up there. Forgive the newfaggotry.
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>>165092192
THAT WOULD BE BRUTAL AS FUCK
>no spiked fist weapons
>no morningstar that tricks into a flail
>no weapon that shoots green sparks when you trick it
>no trick staff that deals long range blunt damage
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>>165094873
>no spiked fist weapons
Honestly who would use that when Stake Driver is a thing?
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>>165094873
>no chain fist weapon that tricks into a whip
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>>165092192
>Other people want a big dumb scissor weapon

I am so happy I'm not the only one.
>>
>tfw having to go through central and lower pth to get the things for loran unless you go ng+
cba with this shit
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>>165095207
This is never not funny to me
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>>165094873
>tfw you will never shred beasts with tasty riffs
>>
´Would a stake driver be shit in terms of damage compared to other weapons? Not including the ridiculous charged r2.
>>
>>165095459
That weapon would be appropriate for a Hideki Kamiya game, but completely out of place in Bloodborne
>>
>play for the first time
>kill Ludwig on the second try with valtr
>pfftt nothing personell, horsie
>ng+
>try to solo him
>can't even get him to 50%

Never cheese your bosses kids or you'll have to learn the hard way.
>>
so as it turns out, I'm on full shitter mode tonight. would anyone care to help me on defiled amy? she's tearing my asshole open into another dimension. pass is poop69
>>
>>165095459
God I fucking hate that stupid thing

Whoever designed that is a thematically blind retard
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>starting up FRC farming
>forgot to use offerings for pthumeru ihyll root
>no more tier 5 ritual blood or mold
I don't want to go to NG+ yet, god dammit
>>
>there are people who do the hintertomb chalice unironically
>>
>>165095062
Me, I want it to be on both hands. I want to batter the beasts wildly.
>>165095385
Chuckled
>>
>>165095796
I always assumed it was made ironically
>>
>>165095998
I mostly do it for the Madman set. Otherwise, save your time and resources, the tombs are worthless.
>>
YOU DRINK THE BLOOD OF HALF THE TOWN AND NOW THIS
>>
>>165096105
absolute madman
>>
>>165096323
HAVE YOU GOT A SCREW LOOSE? OR IS IT YOUR... ANIMAL INTUITION
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>>165096464
>>
I've died 5 times and lost 15 insight in the upper cathedral ward AMA
>>
>>165097080
kek
>>
>>165095796
All that guys designs were kinda dumb but completely sincere, I kind of figured the guitar was basically him realizing his ideas were a bit dumb and decided to just have some fun with it.
>>
>>165097508
I honestly hope to God he was just having a giggle with that, because Christ Lord Almighty
>>
Any suggestions for fighting Orhan of Kos? Besides dashing into his attacks etc.
>>
>>165097867
He's weak to fire, use thrust, be fast, don't get greedy
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>>165098148
>use thrust
He's not kin
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>>165097165
Do you need an ally, anon?
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>>165098306
Is he not weak to it anyway? If not, disregard use thrust, but Church Pick is still god tier
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>>165098550
No I turned my PS4 off and ill play later :(
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>>165097165
Were you invaded?
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>>165068849
imposter iosefka ain't noone to fuck with
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>>165097817
There is no possible way he actually meant that as a legit weapon concept, he's obviously just having fun...

Right?
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Is phys atk + 8.1 worth it compared to open foes + 5.4%? Also just how bad is that weapon durability thing? Is that the max?
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>>165099501
I somehow doubt it's a giggle since THIS also exists
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>>165099840
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>>165099661
Open Foes only affects enemies who are in the middle of an attack, it doesn't increase damage on running/rolling/staggered/guard-broken enemies. Flat Physical attack is better on any weapon with some base physical damage.
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>>165100024
About weapon durability, my max is still 250. Does that mean that do that mean I gain durability damage at 160% rate?
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>>165100220
You'll never lose more than 1 durability per swing unless it hits multiple objects and even then that only happens when you have three of those.
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You gave her the test subjects she needed, right /bbg/?
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>20 vials and half health
jesus Ludwig you really made me work for it
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>>165100634
I have 700hrs played and I've never sent her a single subject
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Welp, I'm going to run Nourishing Abyssals on Ammy in Isz. If anyone wants to join me, pass is babbygen.
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so if we get the ending where gehrman "kills" us and we wake up, do we lose all our blood echoes?
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>>165100634
No, that bitch killed the best waifu who wanted to go out on a date after the night of the hunt, fuck her
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>>165101321
No, but in NG+ there will be a new headstone in the dream that the doll will occasionally be found praying to.
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>>165101321
yeah, like everywhere else in the game, dying in hunters dream makes you drop your echoes
the question is whether you lose your levels
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>>165101321
Nope
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>>165100634
I sent her a bloodletter L2
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>>165101531
>>165101568
>>165101571
can we use them in the waking world though?
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>>165101568
ignore me, I thought you meant in a lore perspective, you keep your echoes in ng+
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>>165101707
i did
it was a joke
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>doing curse defiled chalice dungeons
>undead giant
This is bullcrap.
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>summoned to defiled Amy
>he jumps
>instinctively stop to charge R2
>he was aiming at the host and lands on me
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>>165099840
>normal bullets are ineffective against beasts
>somehow coins are viable projectiles against them
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>unironically getting killed by roms arcane meteors
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>>165102227
>not just annoying the beasts to get them to make mistakes
do you even hunt?
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>>165102198
Coop is wack
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>>165102198
Is there a tutorial on how to do that method somewhere?
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>>165102227
The beasts are communists, money hurts them
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>>165102514
I'm sure you'll put your trip back on and show everyone how :^)
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>>165102649
Fuck off faggot I'm not the green nigger
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>>165102514
Pay attention to where his tail is when he jumps. You want to be standing behind where his tail was when he lands.
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>unironically struggling with chalice rom
fuck.
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>>165102820
Awesome dude thanks a million
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>last stage of rom
>bloodborne crashes
>why
>why
>why
why
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>>165102820
>1600 damage with a R1
Explain yourself.
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first time doing Arcane...
should i upgradesaw spear like the build says or hold out for ludwig or something else?
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>>165103930
Upgrade spear to 6
Don't waste chunks on it, wait until you get the lost version
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>>165103870
Hitting a weak point with a +10 Ludwigs with three 27.2% phys gems and 50/50 STR/SKL

He's my extremely overleveled FRC spelunker.
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>>165103930
>first time doing Arcane...
should i upgradesaw spear like the build says or hold out for ludwig or something else

>>165104059
>Upgrade spear to 6
>Don't waste chunks on it, wait until you get the lost version

Are there no other / cooler arcane weapons?
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>>165104350
There are plenty of cool weapons, but they're all str/arc
The only cool weapon pure arc has is kos parasite
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Who wants to help me kill Ludwig?
Lv: 56
Pass: bbg
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>>165104457
and kos parasite is shit
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>>165104457
>There are plenty of cool weapons, but they're all str/arc
>The only cool weapon pure arc has is kos parasite


I might rather do str/arc unless pure arcane is just fucking awesome. is it?
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>>165104082
what I do to beat him is I lure him to the door and when you get him to backstep out of it with his katana tricked he stops doing anything other than walk, so if you stand in the doorway he bleeds himself to death, I can webm it later.
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>>165104541
Still need help, m8?
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Is putting lightning gems on a Tonitrus a good idea for an Arc build?
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>>165104875
Yeah, I'm ringing at the second lamp
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>>165104631
No, arcane tool spam is horribly boring
Str/arc let's you use wheel, tonitrus, boom hammer (shit, but kinda fun), and to a lesser extent moonlight sword (more quality/arc)
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Papa G is a dirty gun spammer.
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>not using a whirligig saw on an arcane build
plebs
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>>165104895
If your str is at base go with bolt abyssals, otherwise nourishing
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>>165105117
>not using parasite
broccoli is the most fun
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>>165105082
He's shot me before the boss fog even clears.
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>>165104561
But it's fun shit
Great twink weapon if you can beat orphan at low level
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>>165104875
Damn that jump attack. Sorry m8. Ringing again.
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>>165067202
>I don't and i'm not even that dude you were arguing with. You're both morons but at least he doesn't just name call like a gradeschooler. He's right there's nothing wrong with being liberal though. Lots of people have lots of different views. You don't have to agree with him or argue with him and sway him to another side. But you shouldnt throw a tantrum about it either. Take your pol shit to pol and leave bbg out of it.

kill yourself you commie faggot.

>>165067681
>without using childish insults

This smarmy, sarcastic condescension screams newfag and outsider. Cry harder nigger.

OOPS DID I TRIGGER YOU? :^)
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>>165105339
No worries, anon
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>>165105339
>>165105419
guys need a third?
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>>165105385
>quoting posts from 8 hours ago
End yourself.
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>>165105336
>not using bolt saif
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>>165105385
>This smarmy, sarcastic condescension screams newfag
It screams all kind of stuff. Redditors talk like that, weebs talk like that. Girls, or ""girls"". Who knows what his damage is. Not that you're setting a better example atm.

Lefties suck but the Right isn't much better. If you have to summarize your politics with a word, Moderate is where it's at.
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>>165105419
That was like what, 40 seconds? Thanks for the help m8
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>>165105698
Thanks for having me, man
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Anyone wanna go spelunking?
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>>165105001
>No, arcane tool spam is horribly boring
>Str/arc let's you use wheel, tonitrus, boom hammer (shit, but kinda fun), and to a lesser extent moonlight sword (more quality/arc)


So what weapon should i be using in that case? I want moonlight sword eventually
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>>165105828
Sure, anon. I'd love to join
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>>165105828
Have a dungeon in mind? I'd be game.
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>>165105564
>being boring as fuck
I'll stick with my 10' tentacle tickle
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>>165105972
Just getting my last bastard and I'll post the glyph, it's an FRC Ihyll btw
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>>165105893
>in that case
In what case?
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>>165105893
Tonitrus is a good early str/arc weapon and can be gotten fairly early
Moonlight sword gets more benefit from skull points to 25 than from str above 25 though
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>>165105385
Why are you so angry?
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>>165102872
also struggled too lmao, i think its because of the little space compared to the lake

boss after him was piss easy though
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>>165100634
I seen her the beggar

BEASTS ON BLONDES AWOOOOO
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arcane builds are stressful early on fucking hell
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>>165105994
>>165105972

3zpjekcw - FRC Ihyll
pass: bbg
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>>165106551
Did you share the chalice?
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What's the optimal BLT lvl 100 build?
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>>165106551
>>165106653

I fucked up, here's the glyph

3zpj3kcw
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>>165106527
I'm getting so tired of seeing this.

All you have to do is kill Hotdog three times and get to Nightmare Frontier/ Ailing Loran. After that it's all uphill.

The guide everyone follows doesn't say it, but it's easier to gem your weapon with the Phys gems you pick up along the way and use BBPs and Paper. Even at base reqs.

I guess going PURE ARC would be a pain in the ass, but that literally retarded.
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>>165106861
by going pure arc would be retarded do you mean just at the beginning?
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>>165106979
I mean that that retarded "guide" makes it sound like anyone can just plug that Cathedral Ward waning gem into their Saw Spear and go kill Ludwig, then when they can't we get "wahh why is arcane so shit?" posts. It's insanity.
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>>165106972
Imagine putting your pinis in it
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Man I feel like Research Hall is what Duke's Archives should have been, structurally.
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Ideal MLGS build? Seems like a cool as fuck weapon but I never see anyone using it, it's just whirligig or burial blade.
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How do you pronounce Isz and lhyll?
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So, if I found the Guidance III rune what would be the best way to release the knowledge of how to get it in such a way that it could not be doubted that it was me that found it?
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>>165107908
>Isz
Iss
>Ihyll
Aisle
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>>165107908
Like ease and ill, though I could accept that Isz is supposed to be pronounced like eyes.
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>>165107908
izz
eye-hill
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>>165105082
Actually I've found that Grandpa Henyrk spams bullets at me the most. Literally shot me 6 times in a row the last time I went there to save Ol Lady Crow and spawned at the Old Yharnam lamp and had to sprint my ass back there before he killed her.
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>>165098605
Orphan is not weak to anything in particular. He's not considered Kin.

>>165076295
>level 52 player walking around with 10.7 million blood echoes
whut
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>>165108062
>>165108110
>>165108145
>lhyll
Well, which is it?
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>>165107908
Isz = izz

Ihyll = eh-hill
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>>165108110
>>165108145
>eyes
>eye-hill
wait a minute
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>>165108053
Put up a YouTube video
Be warned, this isn't the first time the guide had things that weren't actually in the game
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Alright dweebs, I've got a +6 weapon and 30 vit and I want to get past Ludwig tonight.
Who want's to help?
pw: glue
Because that horse going down
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>>165108552
>can't solo him on bl4
get out
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>>165108172
chalice dungeons, son
RFC farming. The first bosses of a tier 5 dungeon usually drop 80k+ souls and can be killed in less than 5 minutes. Some people just save em, I spend all mine on ritual blood for spelunking
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My first decent 27.2%, fuck yeah

Want me to help in your worlds or nah?
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what's a nice weapon to compliment the claws? we're going beast mode lads
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>>165108989
I'll go get them and ring on the second layer
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Why did Ludwig turn into a horse? Seriously why a horse
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anyone wanna take on regular Ihyll HMPH with me? pass is bigbutts
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>>165105082
>>165108159
Henryk is a mega gun spammer. He just wont stop shooting sometimes
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>>165109204
Maybe he had a buddy horse? Maybe it's a symbolic thing, the horse is a servile animal whereas he was a proud hunter who resisted beasthood.
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>>165109204
Horses are traditionally noble beasts of burden, and Ludwig was a gallant knight who bore the heaviest burden of all. It's symbolic.
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>>165109204
Most beasts we see are humanoid or canine-like. Ludwig turning into a horse showed the twisted aspects of the blood he ingested in part of Healing Church experiments, becoming something unimaginable, even in the realm of beasts. It's part of the reason he's called the "Accursed," he above any other hunter has suffered degradation. Also, it's another Berserk reference to the infamous "Rape Horse."
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What killed you there, m8? There's a bit of latency, and you just dropped dead.
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>>165110251
Uber range swipe and my ebin forward dodge :^(
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how many talking characters in this game *don't* have a line of dialogue that is just maniacal laughing? It seems like literally everyone does it at some point except for the doll.

Even Ludwig has a line where he laughs like an evil horse
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So for game ending savescum it's wake up and then don't wake up and then become a squid?
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W E W

I forgot how much I hate giants
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>>165110398
Yamamaru, for one.
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I started playing this today, beat cleric beast + Father whateverhisnamewas. Do the bosses get better? I had a lot of fun with Father's early stages, felt like a really fast n' frantic 1v1 duel. But the latter part, along w/ Cleric, was kinda annoying, turned in random flail arms everywhere.

Also, am I 'supposed' the kill the NPC who's arming the turret? He's giving me like 10x more trouble than the previous bosses mentioned (Cleric first time, Father 2rd), so I'm taking it as a hint im not supposed to? Either way, he feels like complete bullshit...
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is the undead giant an undead church giant?

what makes the undead one so much stronger?
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>>165110450
If you just want to get all three trophies, then yes. Die, then refuse, then eat the cords before the fight and refuse once more.
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Anyone wanna do some dungeons with me? I just want to get them over with so I can get good gems already and having partners would make it less boring and tedious.

I'm at the second Lower Pthumeru lamp if anyone is interested.

Password is bbg
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>>165110627
Are you actually fighting the guy on the turret (his name is Djura) 1v1 at the top of his tower? Or are you just talking about dodging his minigun? Evading his minigun should be easy, it's just a matter of sprinting from cover to cover and baiting the beastmen into fighting you where he cannot shoot you.

Most people when they are new to the game have immense trouble killing him in a fair hunter fight, and so they just pressure him so he dodges or slips off the edge of the tower.
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>>165110627
>was kinda annoying, turned in random flail arms everywhere.
BOY ARE YOU IN FOR A GOOD TIME
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>>165110627
Evade the minigun, you'll be able to unlock different shortcuts to bypass it. Don't kill him, though, he can be tricky for newer players, and confronting him later gives you a gesture you couldn't get otherwise.
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asking again, would anyone be willing to help me with Ludwig?
pw: glue
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>>165112385
I got you fampai
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>>165112652
cool I'll be by the door
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When you killed that witch my dude decided it's a great idea to turn about and get a machete up his ass
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Sorry about that sudden loss of connection. This has happened once before, the PS4 shutting off in the middle of spelunking.
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>>165112652
You comin man?
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>>165049327
NG+, huy83p9r/ptwrx6tb, vileblob invasions.

Personally I prefer to just run NG+, since it's isn't a tedious fucking drag like, and you can get 3 rocks ez, 4 with just a little bit of going out of your way. If you did a total completionist run, you could probably get 5.

>>165059569
>>165059792
Stamina/Durability have no effect on guns, so are the best curse for them.
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>>165113674
I've been ringing the whole time
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>>165110398
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>>165113810
weird, sorry I died, Ill ring again
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Does anyone have the artbook and can take a high quality scan/image of the design on the cape on the back of the choir set? I downloaded the scans in the OP but it's pretty low res.
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>>165114080
>Literal walking dead apocalypse shit going on
>Ruins everywhere
>knock on a door
>"That time'a'tha week again, eh, guv? fack off"
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3zpj3kcw FRC Ihyll

Oedon Write, shit loads of ritual materials, HMPH layer 3 boss
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You guys finish the spelunk?

I got killed by the UD like 15 times, then when I finally got to layer 3 and saw another fucking Hemwick Witch, I just shut the game off.
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Anyone wanna run triangle or circle nourishing abyssals?
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>>165114670
Got a glyph?
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>>165114670
I'm down for either, although I'd prefer Triangle.
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>>165114636
Still running around in layer 3. Small Resonant Bell is taking a while, unfortunately
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>>165114636
>>165114806
I finished the dungeon, got fed up with witches and didn't want to wait for the full summon, sorry lads

Thanks a bunch for the run, got some good gems out of it.
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I'm doing an even split of skill and blood, chalice pastel in says for that sort of thing two radials and a triangle are best, does that mean I don't really have to bother with getting lost/uncanny weapons since that seems to be the default? At least it seems that way for my rifle spear and reiter (I might try and get bowblade and chikage too but cainhurst and DLC are kicking my ass)
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What boss has the most HP? Headless Bloodletting Beast? It looks like he has 24,000 life, which is just a hair more than any of the other strongest bosses in the dungeons or in NG

But like how many hit points does Laurence have on NG+7?
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>>165114919
Ah, shame. But, thanks for having me. You guys are always a blast to spelunk with.
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>>165110398
This shit has been going since Dark Souls 1, maniacal laughing is a From dialogue staple.
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>>165114758
>>165114775
Yeah I just cleared the watchers. Using a recommended glyph for triangle, target is amalyodagjasdala. Pass is bbgna at the SRRC.
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>>165114919
That fucking dungeon was awful. That was probably the least fun I've ever had on BB. Sorry to waste your Insight screwing around on Layer 1 with the Beast's Embrace.
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Did upper cathedral ward spook you the first time you went through it?
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>>165115178
Don't worry senpai, hope you got a gem out of it or some shit
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>>165115239
Nope. Arc build. No need for Adepts and Temperings.

All it did was cost me 4m echos. Oh well. Jolly co-op and whatnot.
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>>165114205
You still game anon?
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>>165115383
I am, sorry I died so shittily.
My network is acting really goofy.
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>>165115196
Yeah, when the werewolf jumps through the stained glass window after you check the locked door. That shit almost gave me a heart attack the first time I played.
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>>165115378
I got a cold abyssal radial from HMPH, so there's that
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>>165114430
fucking kek
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Gonna post some old webms while I'm waiting for Inka to show back up. We're on the layer amygdala (the target) is on, pass is bbgna. Get those triangle abyssals!
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>>165115796
>"haha always funny to see a new player get hit by an ambu-"
>NG+ health
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>>165115383
I gotta call it quits, thanks for all your help. I really appreciate it. I'm losing my cool and playing badly though.
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>>165116131
disappointing webm name desu

I was expecting it to make me think of heavy metal, not kojima metal
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Fuck dogs.
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>>165116262
Just don't get hit dude :^)
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>>165116187
it's a reenactment, the player knew it was coming

>tfw you will never play BB for the first time again, not knowing where all the jump scares are
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>>165116523
>tfw you will never discover the brain in the abyss after it falls for the first time ever again
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Inka, I got this and a blood rock. How'd you do? Do you need me to roll with you again for triangles?
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>>165115862
Oh it was a Descendant? Bummer. I'd've finished the dungeon if I'd known that.

>>165116131
You gonna run it back or did you get a good gem?
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>>165116382
I always get dogs by just dodging sideways and pressing R1 to lunge at their sides after they miss. If they turn to face you all the way and they are not just barking, you cannot attack safely as they will just bite you between your attacks. They always used to give me a ton of trouble though
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>>165116920
Damn, nice. Mine was kinda shit. I can run it by myself though now that I'm here. No need to trouble yourself.
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>>165117029
It's not optimal, but it's a fine gem. I need a circle now, but if you still need a triangle, then we can go again.
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>>165117139
Well no, you helped me, I can help you. And I could use a better gem. Are you going to host this time or do you want me to remake the dungeon?
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>>165117159
Well, I mean, if you wanna keep at it for a better one or until I get one, I'm definitely game.

If you've already deleted it I can host. I just mine up.
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>>165117371
Just set [my save] up*.
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>>165117371
I haven't deleted it yet, but am I missing something? Don't we have to recreate the dungeon to respawn ammy? Also if you set yours up already, I can join you. Same pass?
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I wish the beast embrace claws didn't make you such a glass cannon in PVE. You can dish out a ton of damage, but I feel like your defensive stats are just irrelevant when you use them, and the only way you can ever take more than one hit and survive is by having 2000 HP and just soaking it up
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>>165117495
>Don't we have to recreate the dungeon to respawn ammy?
Oh well, yeah. But you can copy your save before you kill her, so if you don't get something good, you can reload.

What I've seen other guys do is do that, but also put a copy on a USB after they get a decent gem, so they can can keep trying and if they don't get something better they can keep that one.

Mine's all ready to go though so yeah, I'll host. Same pass, sure.
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>>165117705
Oh oops, I didn't even consider that, since going through all 3 floors is fairly fast. But yeah, I'll roll with you until you're satisfied with your triangle, then I'd like to move on to a circle. This is a PVE build so I'd like to keep my souls and endlessly level up, so I'd prefer to not reset. I'm ringing.
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>>165117843
You SRRCing or ringing from Layer 3? I'm at the lamp now but if you're on the Layer I'll go over to the fog.
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>>165117989
I'm SRRCing. Should I be ringing from layer 3?
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>>165118057
It's a lot faster from inside the dungeon, yeah.
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>>165118148
Oh okay, let me move over to that then, sorry. I haven't played BB in about a year so I don't remember a lot of the specifics.
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>>165118148
Still doing amy for triangles?
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>>165118148
I'm ringing on the stairs.
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>>165118214
It's all good, just lemme know if you're going to the boss side or lamp.

>>165118278
Yessir. rpkipbdn I believe, pass is bbgna
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>>165118386
I'll SRRC, just a sec
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>>165118591
You not able to connect bro?
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>>165119076
Just found you
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INKA PLZ
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Kek.
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Contact was made today.
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wait wait wait im getting confused about the ending.

So Gherman is forced to host the hunters dream by the moon god but once you kill the other great ones he would kill you in the dream and you'd forget it? Why would he make you forget it and what good does that do? Then if you resist dying he kills you? Why do that? What's the moon presences goal by having the hunters dream and turning you into a great one?
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So is the doll the biggest slut in any fromsoft game? I mean, look at all those gravestones in the dream, that's a lot of people.

Did she fuck Eileen too? Eileen specifically tells up to say hello to the doll for her.
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>>165119605
If by slut you mean legitimately likes people, yeah. She's definitely the most caring NPC I can think of.
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>>165119248
Wasn't sure whether his chest had a hitbox so I thought I'd go for it.

I needed a restock anyway lol.

You coming back Madman?
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what was the hunters shameful secret?
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>>165119790
I had I "could not connect to the network" error. Reringing at the lamp. I'm Reikki btw.
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>>165119605
She cares about us legitimately because she was made for that purpose and that purpose alone.
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>tfw we all joke about still discovering something big in the chalice dungeons one day, but in reality we've pretty much picked the game clean at this point and the most we'll get is a few very minor discoveries like a rarely preformed grab attack
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>>165119832
Doll fetish
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>>165119954
That's one of the things I love about these games though
Just yesterday I had a ghost lady get caught on some pots and she launched a homing orb at me
I've been through chalice dungeons dozens of times and never seen that before
To be fair though I've never farmed red tearstone gems so I don't run into them much
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I've been robbed guys.
Why does a base requirements Ludwig's Blade +8 +Beast Blood Pellet + Fire Paper does almost 3k damage per 3 hit combo?
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>>165119732
>>165119915
She's nice, but she ain't no princess
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>>165119954
fuck you
:(
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>>165120309
She's all we have, she's probably the one keeping the hunters sane. She also keeps the Dream organized, restacks all those books we knock over, mends gaping holes in the garb, you get the idea. The Maiden in Black (DeS) wanders around in the Nexus until you show up with all the souls you need, Emerald Herald/Shanalotte spend her time staring at the sea in Majula, and the Fire Keeper sat on the steps near the bonfire gazing blankly at the inside of her mask.
This is the first one who has actually done shit besides act as the soul/echo exchange.
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>>165119790
Yeah, gotta clear it myself tho
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>>165120712
>>
INKA PLZ

Also we have one more slot for triangle nourishing abyssal farm, pass is bbgna.
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>>165119447
What's that little symbol next to absolute madman?
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>>165121219
I have no idea actually.
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>>165121219
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>>165121219
Downscaled
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>+8 bowblade with 30 skill only does 200 damage a swing to Ludwig

Jesus I'm whailing on him but just doing absolutely no damage, it turns into just a matter of time before I get caught y his stomp attack or miss time a roll on his jump or get hit by the last of his 3 hit sword combo

It's frustrating because I'll be doing super well and it just feel so Iike make one unlucky mistake and am dumpsters but I know I can beat him
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doll butt
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So if I want to do an arcane build, should I go 40 str/40 arc for moonlight greatsword, or 30 str/50 arc for spells?
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Hello fellow gentlemen, where do you getns get your Bloodbourne porn, if I may ask? *tips*
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>>165121498
Blacksky Eye is very strong with 50 ARC, and HMS has A ARC scaling and B STR scaling. It seems like 50 ARC is better from my experience. But you have a sub weapons too, so I would choose it based on that.
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>>165121498
50 ARC with just enough STR/SKL to wield the weapons you want. Moonlight greatsword isn't really an arc weapon.

I'm a big fan of fire beast cutter and bolt saif, with an arcane cane or kos parasite.
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>>165121652
I'm probably just gonna rush str and vit early-on with the axe, and then go for the HMS around lv60~80 because I'm a shitter who still gets stomped by Ludwig despite playing this game half a dozen times
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>screams
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>>165121715
Just summon Valtr or from here
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>>165121715
Rush arcane for the flamethrower
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So why don't they let you buy gerhman's gloves?
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>>165122141
>So why don't they let you buy gerhman's gloves?
I wanna know why I can't buy his trick tophat
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>>165121715
Early on, your stats don't matter since scaling is so low. Just boost ARC because those actually come with great scaling.
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>>165122327
>can't wear his cape either
Damn, I feel kind cheated now desu.
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>>165122628
Ignore the gehrman set
charred+tophat if you want to look like non-crippled gehrman
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>>165122871
Old hunter torso also has a similar cape
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Is there any particular reason that /v/ can't bring up this game without instantaneous, constant shitposting?
Please don't tell me it's console bullshit, I really don't want to believe it's something that juvenile.
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>>165123154
Yeah, but I don't think it's tattered
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>>165123226
It is.
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>>165123226
Alright I wont tell you.
Its Easy bait to farm (You)'s with
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>tfw females don't get the cool long ponytail with the knight set
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>>165123543
I'm just mad there isn't a cape or accessory slot.

>Can't be a dapper gent with capeless Foreign Clothes or other such
>Can't wear Black Church Hat without the hood
>Can't have just the tiny hat from the Knight's Wig on female hunters

Feels bad.
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>tfw scrolling down the thread it looks like people have finally stopped responding to certain tripfaggots
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anyone wanna help me out with the first boss in defiled pthumeru chalice?
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>>165124008
Chalice dungeons would have been much better if they had variations of weapons, armor and items
>bone ash hat without mask
>fireball reskin of ex gloves that deals fire damage
>weapons with a mode disabled but higher scaling
>regular old weapons like pitchforks with only one gem slot
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>>165123226
>Please don't tell me it's console bullshit, I really don't want to believe it's something that juvenile.

Anon, all boards that aren't sluggish and obscure like /po/ are populated by juvenile cancer
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>>165124554
Pass?
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>when you get summoned via SRRC into the world of a Vileblood trying to get help, and proceed to stomp his shit
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>>165125396
>when an executioner fag invades you and you kill him with your own wheel
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>>165125512
>Vileblood using the Executioners' signature weapon

They really are the truest cucks.
>>
someone wanna help with HMPH pthumeru ihyll please? pass is bigbutts
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>>165125747
>implying it isn't worse to die by your own signature weapon

I keep a wheel just to humiliate executioners by showing im better than them with their own weapon
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>>165121425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0&ab_channel=MotivaShian
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>>165125847
The only thing humiliating here is that you're all but admitting that Executioners have a better weapon than you disgusting Vilebloods. :^)
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>>165126250
>all but admitting
yeah exactly, i'm not admitting that
My chikage and reiter shit on executioners but theres something about seeing them get excited when I pull a wheel out like they think theyre gonna be the superior since its THEIR weapon only to fall to me in no time

I love you executioner anon we should love all covenantsexcept the league
>>
>vilebloods think their the edgiest kids on the block
>Alfred Beats their queen to a literal pulp with a wagon wheel haunted by the souls of all her friends then cuts his wrists
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>>165126892
>the vilebloods can just keep reviving her
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>ywn be an executioner son receiving your very first executioner gloves from your executioner father
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>>165126892
Everyone knows Maria is the edgiest thing in the game
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>>165127492
Did you by chance miss Alfie's big speech right before he an hero's?
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Is there any point to ever going with the Beast Cutter over the Threaded Cane? It seems way too slow to ever be useful, and the damage increase seems tiny too.
>>
So just to be clear if I want thrust gems I should be farming the watchers at pwmf22gu? Because I've been doing that for a while and have several 27.2s exactly how I want them but I have yet to see any adept gems.

Am I just being fucked by rng?
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>>165128714
Yes. Adept gems are rare. I suggest finding some new albums or a podcast you wanna give a listen to before you start farming.
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What the fug
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Is it even worth going for uncanny/lost weapons?
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>>165127892
Ones a STR weapon and the other is a SKL weapon so unless you are doing an arcane character using converted weapon you shouldn't have to choose. In tricked mode it does more visceral damage than any other weapon.

Cane has speed and cheap stamina costs, as well as thrust attacks untricked. Cutter has huge stagger (second R2 is practically infinite poise damage, that shit will pancake Abhorrent Beast) and more damage. It's also serrated and blunt on 100% of attacks so you can use more powerful gems. Plus the slow swings fuck people in PVP since the usual dodge timings will often end with them getting counter hit.
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>>165128902
Yes. You always want radial/radial/triangular on melee weapons, and some melee weapons default with a shitty waning slot. The Burial Blade, for example.
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help with HBLB pass bbg
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>>165128975
Ah ok, where do you get uncanny weapons? I'm sort of oblivious to the whole chalice dungeon stuff
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>>165128975
Is radial/radial/waning ever good for anything?
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>>165129141
They show up in chests in root chalices (root = randomly generated). There are reference sheets you can look at for chalice glyphs, listing specific glyphs where you can find the particular weapon you want. Google "The Bloodborne Sheets."
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>>165129084
THANKS HIBIKI
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>>165126892
The whole game is basically edgelords trying to out edge other edgelords
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>>165129354
No, not really.
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>>165128975
You want Radial, Radial, Triangle for Physical (including thrust/blunt) weapons and also pure Arcane (the damage type) weapons.

Radial, Waning, Triangle is better for Fire and Bolt weapons. And also poison setups.

Phys/Arcane nourishing setups are either RRT or RWT, there's no clear winner and it depends of preference and playstyle.

BLT weapons want a circle slot if possible.

A dedicated Beast or Kin killing weapon needs a Waning slot, other two don't really matter.
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>>165129430
Is Bloodborne actually a tribute to Nietzsche?
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>non headless bloodletting beast in layer 3 of frc ihyll

Never knew it was possible
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Is it possible to farm FRC offline? Do you even get enough materials to make another dungeon in one run? If not, where are you supposed to get all that insight to buy ritual materials with?
>>
Having a lot of trouble with Abhorrent Beast in Lower loran. Any advice?
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>>165130275
What gem does he drop?
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>>165131143
Poison knives and patience
Keep your distance and punish the one-hand punch
The AoE has a much larger hitbox than it appears
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>>165131153
Tempering abyssal

>physical 24.8%
>random 2nd effect
>random curse
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>>165131143
Hit-and-run is effective.
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>>165127892
beast cutter is really good because every attack is blunt (also serrated) so you can put three +32.6% gems in it.
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I would like to personally thank the anon that told me to switch off the axe for paarl last night
once I ran the untricked saw spear I finally got the faggot semi stunlocked (he had some breaks but for the most part he was down) and always had enough stamina to get out of dodge
literally every site, forum, and video guide says use something with big sweeps like the axe, fucking bullshit just go ballistic on his shins like a rabid chihuahua
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>>165128926
>>165131354
I thought everyone shat on blunt as the worst damage type in the game.
What makes it good?
New hunt when?
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>>165131395
you're welcome

Just wait til you try Loran Darkbeast on a FRC dungeon. He has way stronger legs; you gotta take out the rear ones first if you want to stand a chance at keeping him down
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>>165131470
why would that be? It's just another damage type. Most opponents have more physical damage resistance than blunt resistance
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NEW THREAD
>>165131760
>>165131760
>>165131760
>>165131760
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>>165131143
throw cum at it. failing that, poison knives are always good memes and just hit when you get the opportunity but dont get greedy. Or ask someone from here to help you meme it if youre really getting the business.
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>>165112385
Even though I have no appropriately leveled characters nearby Ludwig I would like to say I find your password very amusing and fitting.
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