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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, December 11th:
630 – Muhammad leads an army of 10,000 to conquer Mecca.
861 – Assassination of the Abbasid caliph al-Mutawakkil by the Turkish guard, who raise al-Muntasir to the throne. Start of the "Anarchy at Samarra".
969 – Byzantine Emperor Nikephoros II Phokas is assassinated by his wife Theophano and her lover, the later Emperor John I Tzimiskes.
1792 – French Revolution: King Louis XVI of France is put on trial for treason by the National Convention.
1905 – A workers' uprising occurs in Kiev, Ukraine (then part of the Russian Empire), and establishes the Shuliavka Republic.
1937 – Second Italo-Ethiopian War: Italy leaves the League of Nations.


>News
CK2 Monks and Mystics Announced
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/crusader-kings-ii-monks-and-mystics-announced.986031/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!TVA2RByJ!tuh0k4SR5gXPLtmxsMd4KZ0at9gY5s5_oV70ui8A4B0

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V9
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

Old Thread >>162353902
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>162407853
Based.
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Remember to pay for the games you play
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>>162408000
Triggered, steamtard?
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>>162407853
Based

>>162408000
Trips confirm the man above is indeed based

>>162408073
Based
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>>162407880
Had these 2 stacks
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>>162408176
you sound triggered
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>>162407264
>>162408125
pls
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>You will never form a Japanese Nationalist group in the middle of Northern Alaska
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>>162408350
Anon they need their everyday needs
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Reposting from the last thread:

After polling opinions, the general consensus for the next AAR is either DH or HoI3. I've put together a poll with options here:

http://www.strawpoll.me/11845625
http://www.strawpoll.me/11845625
http://www.strawpoll.me/11845625

The reason I've decided to include an "other" category with Kaiserreich is because there are so many viable starts, and if Kaiserreich seems like the winner confining to Germany/Qing doesn't seem very reasonable.

This won't necessarily be the final determiner--if some choices are close or there seems to be a general game preference I might do a run-up poll--so this poll is partly just to help me get a feel of what opinions are at this point.

Keep in mind that I probably still won't have time over vacation (IE the next three weeks or so) to do the AAR unless HoI3 Nationalist China wins the vote, because everything else will take too long and will still need to wait until June. Even Nat. China might take too long, but we'll see.
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>>162408435
How?
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>>162408053
Pretty much. Geopolitics for the US are "Flavor of the Month" diplomacy.

>>162408197
>That was like 2007-10 shit, old news

Yeah, that was at least several years back. Pretty sure the most rampant of it was in the late 20th century, 1960s - 1990s.

>That's even funnier. Nobody even fucking wants it. Not the nobodies in villages, not the old guys, not the kids in the best uni in the country. Nobody cares about 'having a voice' because the country is being run fine as it is.

That's pretty much the impression I've gotten out of taking a Chinese Politics class at uni (though the professor was trying to sprinkle it up as "but MAYBE they MAY want it at some point").

>Didn't we hack the pentagon or something
>ebin stuff there

Something like that, yeah. It's pretty much "DUH CHINESE/RUSSIAN HAXXORZ". I don't think we'd honestly give a shit unless China stole top secret files or fucked with Wall Street, though.

>I'm not sure but I'm going to guess that's because most of them are underage edgelords, and I do mean edgelords, not even nerds - nerds are studying. They're almost universally the shitty jocks and chads, the ones that think they're cool for griefing and, key point, don't fucking grow out of it by the time they're twelve.

I don't know, man, but you can't have a good international multiplayer game without Chinese (and Russians) shitting it up. In MMOs, you're pretty much known as gold farmers, and in literally anything else, Chinese (and again, Russians) are known to hack and shit up servers. And it almost always seems to be the Chinese (and Russians). Not even memeing here about "muh America-China-Russia rivalry".

It has to be edgelords, I couldn't see anyone sensible being that much of pieces of shit.
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so, where can I download patch 3.04 for vicky
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>>162408748
DH has more political stuff but HoI3 has a lot more military stuff.
Which do you want to play? I'll vote for that as i'm happy with either and the more you personally want to so it the less likely you'll bitch out and abandon it.
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we /benelux/ now boys
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>>162409013
what in the FUCK is this tldr shit

>>162409021
here's a link: www.com
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>>162409021
It's linked every fucking day, you nonce.
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>>162408806
Ended up getting so many Japanese immigrants that one province in the Northwest Territories had a majority of Japanese immigrants.
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>>162409148
>Waaagh, I'm illiterate, spoonfeed me
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>>162409021
http://victoria2wiki.com/V2_3_04_patch.zip
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Rate plz
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>>162409274
dont click its virus
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How fucked am I?
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>>162408748
If I could make a suggestion go for Nationalist china in DH. The reason being is they have a crap ton of events and choices including a mini game of sorts of beating the commies early. If you do that join the allies and help retake Europe. One of my most recent games I did that and barely managed to push back the tides in africa before marching through iran into the Caucasus and liberate Europe. Shit was fun.
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>>162409291
Pretty shit desu. Although
>Greater Armenia
>Greater Assyria

yes pls

Give Armenia Minor to Greater Armenia, though.
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>>162409291
>going full danube
>not taking everything down to thessalia
lad..
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>>162409359
Totally every great power is against you. If the war does come simply wait for the treaty of whatever its called to white peace the war after about 10 years or so.
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>>162409043
I don't bitch out and abandon my AARs. Granted, I've only done two so far, and the CK2 AAR did end early, but it did so because I got OP, and it was ended more-or-less by popular consensus. If something gets voted for, I'll play it. It might wind up with me just getting stomped if it's a rough start like Nat. China, but I'll still do it to its logical conclusion.

>>162409462
It sounds like it. If you want me to go for that, just vote for one of the two vanilla DH options. Like I said, this poll isn't necessarily final, and if one particular game gets a lot of attention, even if it doesn't win I'll probably note that and do another poll with it included.
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>>162409291
80% of this will not be accomplished
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>>162409624
>I don't bitch out and abandon my AARs
Nobody said you did, you overreacting redditor. Jesus, you're cancerous. Take that trip off, you're not on /r/paradoxplaza now, you know.
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If I'm playing US do I really have anything to gain be sending Perry's expedition to Japan? It seems like it just helps them westernize faster and then they become a GP and break out of my sphere.
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>>162409624
BRING BACK BILGE
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>>162408537
There are currently 18.56 million Romanians living within Romania. Genocide has been conducted regularly since the 1880's and has done a pretty good job of clearing out the minorities. There are also an additional 112k Romanians living in the Romanian Congo (which I released as a puppet to hopefully encourage all of my migrants to go solely to the genocided territories).
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>>162409624
>needing a trip for an AAR
We're really in decline. Go fuck yourself attentionwhore.
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>>162409624
>it's a "redditor tries to become an e-celeb" episode
Where's do we vote for you to fuck off back?
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>>162409704
>>162409881
Fuck off autists. Trips make it easier to find him in previous threads. Not to mention he actually on topic content, unlike autists like you two.
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How many layers of irony are you on
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it crashed again anyone else want to join the rehost?
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>>162410049
Oh look, you took your trip off! See how easy that was, you failed abortion?
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>>162410049
Ah, so now you turn the trip off. KEK.
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rehost when
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68.226.105.20

Back up
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>>162410127
mp m8s please
>>162407264
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>>162409359
>only 2 reforms
I usually get that by 1480. Did you not take back your territory? Did you lose Burgundy to someone else?
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>>162410213
coming hold on
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>>162410127
altist here,i'm going to sleep now and won't join this time, good game tho
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>>162410096
How is this in any way ironic?
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>>162410160
>>162410182
stop bullying him you fucking autists
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>>162410160
>>162410182
Nice try. Now fuck off back to your steamcord.
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>>162410049
>>162410350
>him
>he
It's actually "me" and "I" when you're referring to yourself.
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>>162409158
actually it hasn't been since the games got removed from the mega but nice try at flaming
>>162409224
xD epic
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>>162410350
Why does this idiot think doing an AAR warrants a trip? This has never been an issue until he came and decided he wanted to be an e-celebrity.
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>>162410442
See >>162410354
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ding ding ding

how do I stop reactionaries
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>>162410508
I mean honestly, while it doesn't warrant a trip it also kind of merits one.
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ALTIST where are you m8
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>>162410587
>playing the most white and based nation on Earth
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>>162410354
>>162410529
>l-look i can use MSpaint
We're not fucking children, reddit.
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>>162410645
See >>162410274
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>>162409274
Thanks, friend. Have a (you).
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Autocracy?
Become gommie/fascist and get rid of the blacks?
Liberty/equality is shit, because factors for assimilation are rare and if you aren't America you dont get immigrants hardly.
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>>162410492
Actually, it was literally a week ago.
>>161788592
Now you can apologise like a man or ignore me like a coward, it's your call.
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>>162410974
Order is autocracy with none of the shit.
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>>162411175

It doesn't have ruling party support.
I might go full meme and try and make this a bourgeois dictatorship.
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>>162410245
Poland wrecked my shit at some point and I focused on retaking the italian provinces into the realm. Also declared wars to convert half of the
HRE back to catholic. I mean I could pass the third reform, but I'd need to put the entirety of hungary inside the HRE. Burgundy still has fucking brabant for some reason, should've stomped them harder when I had the chance, at least they're at my side obn this religious shitfest.
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>>162411280
Does autocracy have any special requirements like be muslim or have low literacy?
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>>162410587
You don't, go for productivity and fund your army 100% until you westernize.
t. literally just played as Egypt
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How does genocide work in vic2?
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>>162411340
No.
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>>162411298
>burgundy is still alive
You didnt make them explode yet?
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pls crash
pls crash
pls crash
pls crash
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>>162411385

Damn, wont be able to get to that. I took the ali reforms. I thought it would end after i slapped the roaches ass in the first war, but that -40% is killer. Productivity makes the most sense, but Egypt has shit industrialization aside from crashing the liqour market if they have enough glass/coal they can import.
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Is console the only way to cleanse ethnic minorities
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
these cunts did shitall in the war and then get millions of pajeets and nigs
how is this acceptable
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>>162412060
what mod
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>>162412060
HPM has genocide decisions if you're fascist, absolute monarchy or communist
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>>162412178
when does fascism appear?
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>Have a son destined to be heir
>Grooming him like I want, everything according to keikaku
>Have a second son
>Chaplain suspects he's a demon spawn
>Wife becomes unfaithful after he's born
>My heir dies mysteriously one night
>Demon child becomes heir and probably looks forward to the day I die
Man this kid is fucked
Hope I live to see the day that he's old enough to be assassinated
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>>162412282
Play along and see what happens
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>>162411932
I took the Ali reforms too, but you can westernize by the same year by making good use of conquest RPs. I took the foreign universities reform by 1852 IIRC.
I'm not quite sure, but I think the basic rule for conquest RPs is that you want to conquer a populous region, not quite sure if said region was from a primitive or fully westernized nation matters much.
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>>162409462
What start date did you start in? 33 or 36?
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>>162411638
this
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>>162412403

I think I got a ton when I grabbed baghdad.
Russia is currently allied with roaches, so can't do much of anything right now until crimean war kicks off.
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>>162411385
what reforms should i focus on when starting egypt?
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>>162412437
33. Also as a slight warning if you think its a negative if you do beat the commies early you can unite China early and be very strong when Japan invades. But when Japan invades your units get massive negatives for about 6 months which make it near impossible to hold at the border.
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>>162411563
Nope. They managed to kick France's ass somehow alongside with Liege. Too scared of triggering the league war to do anything about them now.
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>>162412610
I went with foreign universities > land reform > education > railroads, but you could also try getting the last military reform to max conquest RPs (with Egypt's starting reforms, you only get 75% of them).
>>162412551
Russia not only allied but also sphered the Ottomans in my game. Luckly enough, France sphered me in my independence war.
Even though they cucked me out of Tunisia after I forcefully released it from the Ottomans by myself, refused to help me in the devastating war against the British, reduced my tariff income by 3/4s and nearly built the fucking Canal, they probably saved me from the Russians.
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>>162408068
you can't stop me from being a pedophile Podcat
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>>162410745
>implying anyone uses MS Paint for these
ello reddit
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wew
gommies or exterminate chinks?
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>>162413384
gommunism
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>>162413384
exterminate chinks
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>>162413384
welp
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>>162413384
Embrace buddhist gommunism then exterminate the chinks
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>>162413527
>>162413384
>they'll all work together
top tier game mechanics right there
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>>162412367
Shit's getting real
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>>162413384
gommunism and exterminate chinks
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>tfw no mp where we even make it to 1900
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>Tfw ALTIST cucked me out of the free CB's France gets on Prussia and now they formed NGF

ree


>>162413675
Blame all the normies for going to stuff like work or class
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night nerds


>>162413675
the host must host the same one again later
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>tfw on days when I can play forever no one else can
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>>162413601
Son of a bitch
Should I imprison him and have him executed or do I continue down the rabbit hole?
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Is it even any fun to play as the USA in EU4? Even if you start in the war for independence it only leaves you less than 100 years to play as them.
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k guys should i play as the ottomemes? i have never played the turkish scum simulator and im looking right now for a new country to play on eu4
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>>162413789
>EU4
>fun
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are you faggots playing mp again
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>>162413675
>>162413712
>>162413718
reminder

>>162410221
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>>162413915
I'm down
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>>162413861
MEIOU Hungry or Serbia is a fun game.
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>>162413915
We were but people flaked
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uh oh
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>>162413997
>>162413915
there's three of us right here, we can get a couple more
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>>162413930
You fucked up
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>>162413789
I can't even play 100 years of EU4 without getting bored so it's probably more fun than a full campaign.
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>>162413997
It's time.
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>>162414052
Are you still in the lobby? What's the IP?
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>>162414205
no the host canceled, I think we need a new host

if only we had a stream group for these kinds of things
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>>162414086
fugg :DDD

Anyone know how I could have fucked up? I got a static ip, forwarded the ports, and can join if I open another V2 game
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>>162414249
>steamgroup
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>162414249
>implying I'll give my steam username to any of you
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wow anon was right
1860 and im there baby.
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>>162414315
Probably didnt set your port forward rule to your IP
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>>162414351
who is this anonymous hacker named 4chan
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>>162414249
>>162414317
>>162414351
then why dont you autists create a discord group with fake accounts?
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>>162414437
how is this done?
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>>162414530
Dunno, depends on your router. Look up a guide
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>>162414432
>administrative reform
Why, you didn't even blob that much
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>>162413762
Ask yourself:

What's more fun?
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>>162414562

Academy reforms gave me more to westernize.
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>black death comes to Europe
>suddenly England, Portugal and Leon all become led by Shepardic Jews
I-I'm sure that there is no correlation between these two.
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>>162413017
How do i win against the ottomans :(
They attack me into hills and stack wipe me everytime
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Why do my armies in EU4 get absolutely stomped by armies half my size? I'm even playing as the Ottomans, and I still get fucking wrecked by Hungary and Austria. Thought I might could get a little land, but they destroyed me.
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Would any kind lad give me an easy way to edit this current save so I can allow Danmark/England to become their appropriate Scandinavia/GB countries respectively?

This is a conversion so apparently that means the decisions for cultures forming greater nations is turned off.
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>>162403587
>There was the identity of being 'Chinese' but it was more of a club you applied to join by acting Chinese than an actual nation. China was a civilization and a concept, it wasn't a nation and therefore literally could not have nationalism. There might've been 'patriotism', but even that doesn't really work in the same way.

China back then sounds very much like the EU today. People are aware they are part of the EU and they might even be aware that they're culturally closer to Europeans than to anyone else but no one would today seriously describe themselves as "European" before they'd describe themselves as "German" or "Italian" or "English" or whatever.

Hopefully that can change in Europe as well. Though I don't think the national cultures should ever be abandoned
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am I gay if I wiggly my willy to sexy borders?
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>Become GP
>Roaches overcome by the insult
>Throw themselves at me

distant camel laughing

Gonna save up here for the night ladies. Wanted to westernize egypt, now that's done not sure what to do with them. They can't really industrialize so I am stuck with increasing RGO efficiency, pop growth, and becoming fascist.
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>>162415045
it depends, is the country male?
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>>162414981
A combination of
>not being the defending army
>terrain
>superior military tech
>superior general
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>>162415229
ebin GrossGermaniums, Hungarianiums and Netherlandiums etc.
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>>162415229
>assigned genders to countries

I'll never understand the Frenchies.
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>>162415272
>not being the defending army

welp
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Alright, now what?
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>>162415361
>not being faithful adherent of the glorious cult of the offense

Go back to your Maginot line, sissy
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>>162415349
>Germania
not gay
>Hungary
gay
>Netherlands
gay
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>>162415272
That's the other thing, I don't get how I'm supposed to use the terrain. If I park on a river in hopes they cross to attack me, they just fucking take all the land around the river and avoid me. If I try and chase them into the hills they just move faster than me and get to favorable terrain. What the hell? Am I supposed to just have 5 million troops to force them into the terrain I want?
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if I wanted to play as Croatia what would be the best game to play it in? I don't like Ck2 and you have to cheat to play it anywhere else which makes me feel not good.
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>>162415462
>unironically going on the offensive
>in non-hoi games
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Guys I need help. I pirated EU4 (the codex version with rights of man) and wanted to download the extended timeline mod as well using the steam workshop downloader site. After downloading, I do as you would usually do install mods, put the director.mod file in the mod folder and rename it after the mod you're using. Now the problem is that extended timeline shows up on my mod list in the launcher and when I go ingame the mod is "active", but the starting dates etc are not present. Same with the nation builder unlimited mod. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
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>>162415545
You bait them with a tiny stack then move in your main stack when their army gets movement locked. Extremely gamey but thats just how this game is.
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>>162415545
Congratulations you've just discovered the beauty of warfare. There's a reason Napoleon could keep consistently winning for nearly 30 years or Alexander the Great never lost a battle and that's because they were really really really fucking good at waging war.
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>>162415272
Also, did you do ali's reforms from the start? Is the -40 research points worth the military buff?
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>>162415790
Alea iacta est
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>>162414964
Build as many stacks of 4art 1cav as you can, mobilize once you've finished doing so and have around 150k pounds stocked, then give 5 mobilized infantry to each 4art 1cav stack. After that, leave one of them in the Lebanese mountains, one of them beneath it, another in Jerusalem and the rest behind Suez, with one designated to sieging Libya. Fund your navy 100% and leave them in the Crete sea for as long as you can, they usually win many battles there but they'll end up falling apart with time. And, of course, swap generals for the best morale and attack/defence bonus as you can at all times, and get them when they're weak (i.e. throw a 30k stack with a good attacking general in the semi-desert when there's a full infantry Ottoman division sieging there with less than 20k men, then quickly get them out of there).
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>>162415045
>am I gay if I wiggly my willy to sexy borders?
>wiggly my willy

You were already born gay when you were born a Britbong.
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>>162415859
>mobilizing as an unwesternized nation
t. retard
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HoY KR is surprisingly fun and more far more challenging than vanilla HoY. Played a game as Willy and it took some rather gamey play to beat the CoF
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>>162415953
Historically the Brits considered themselves the epitome of masculinity compared to the effeminate and weak French.
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>>162414086
Please try now

V2 HPM PSGK
192.168.0.10

Not hosting just testing
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>>162415953
t. fresh off the boat
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>>162415014
Many cultures being under a contigous common rule for thousands of years will do that for you, and probably would have had the same result in Europe if Rome hadn't fallen. For it to naturally happen is probably an impossibility because of technology.
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>>162414964
>>162415859
Notice how you shouldn't even mind with attrition until the Ottomans have no stacks left, if you're able to finish off any amount of Ottoman divisions while sacrificing an equal or smaller amoung of Egyptians, do it.
Hills don't offer enough protection, don't use them. And pay attention to the Romanian armies, they're usually stronger than the Ottoman armies.
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Good guys lost Napoleonic wars.

Good guys lost Wold War One.

Good guys won World War Two.

y/n?
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>>162416067

Thats your IVP4 not your public IP dummy
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>>162416157
y
n
y
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>>162416157
good guys won every war in history
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>>162416062
>Historically the Brits considered themselves the epitome of masculinity compared to the effeminate and weak French.

Maybe so, but he was born a contemporary Britbong, and that's different.

>>162416081
>t. duck shagger in bumfuck middle of nowhere Northern England
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>>162415974
Muhammed Ali's reforms gives you a mobilization boost that jumps from 0 to over 35 possible brigades family
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>>162415859
>the 5 inf 4 art meme again
4 inf 5 art is far superior. Inf mainly exists to soak up damage for arty and with a drg/hus it equals out to 5 front 5 back.
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>>162416157
Yes yes no
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>>162416157
n
n
y
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>>162416250
>Germany got colonies everywhere
>0 ships
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>>162416250
Incidentally I watched nearly that many made-up civilians die today on stream in Eve Online.
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>>162416213
t. macchiavelli

>>162416206
Fair enough. I've always thought Europe would have been ridiculously great and unstoppable in the 19th century if it had been permanently united under French leadership. it would be like the EU but at the time when Europe was million times more powerful than any other place on Earth but all of them together.
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>>162416198
oohhh. Try 71.76.238.214
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>>162414989

Nevermind, found out about the integration command. Any other countries I should create? Poland being PLC might be appropriate, but they are no elective monarchy by any means. Russia/Poland stabbed them in the back and partitioned them.
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>>162416157
Yes
Yes
Debatable (the Allies were far from being the """""""""""""""""""""""""""good guys""""""""""""""""""""""""""", but Adolf Hitler was a buffoon in terms of military strategy and should have utilized patriotic Jüden to full potential instead of singling out every single one. Gypsies definitely needed to be exterminated, though.)
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>>162416339
blame alex
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>>162416393
If Napoleon hadn't lost there wouldn't have been a need for WW1.
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MP sesh let's do this boiiis

join this IP >>162416437

quality memers only
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>>162416157
n
what is wold war one
to an extent
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>>162416157
y
y
n
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>>162416393
if by good guys you meant everyone who was supposed to get something from Severes then id agree w you
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>>162416067
>tfw cant get correct checksum
g-guess ill sit this one out...
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enough mp for today
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>>162416813
delete cache and try again m8
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>>162416157
No, Nappy went full reactionary tyrant toward the end there. Completely betrayed the revolution in every respect rather than moderating and streamlining it, as 1800-1805 Nappy did.

Everybody lost WWI, it was entirely pointless.

Yes.
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>>162416581
Precisely.

>>162416483
I've never liked the nazis or the weird worship of them, ironic or not. They were retarded incompetent paranoid cunts that did more damage to Europe and European civilization than the Mongols and the Russians combined including nearly destroying most of the civilization.

And if you're right wing you should especially hate them since they have made it incredibly difficult to downright impossible to be against certain things, like mass immigration or cultural suicide, without being branded a fucking nazi. \

Also the German science at the start of the 20th century was insane, it was literally filled with people that were wrote the book on their chosen subject, Germany beat both the US and the UK in terms of science before World War One. After the nazis, though, there was basically nothing left and everything had to be rebuilt from scratch.
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>>162416872
done it like 10 times now lad, it doesnt work for me for some reason.
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>>162416965
are you just loading HPM no other mods? with the 3.04 update?
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>>162416984
yes
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>>162416157
sort of
sort of
n
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>>162417060
What checksum are you getting? Did you quit and reload after the first time?
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>>162417123
IKFE or some shit like that and yes.
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>>162417196
then you are not using the right HPM version or don't have the 3.04 beta patch
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Give me a fun country to play, something like an underdog story. (EU4).

Not as difficult as Nagaur/Manipur into world domination, that's too difficult to be enjoyable (I'm pretty bad). Something fun, challenging, interesting.

Thanks.
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>>162417069
oh wait fuck
last one is yes
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HPM
PSGK
192.168.0.10
NOW
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What should Napoleon's endgame have been?
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>>162416894
Trust me, I don't envy the Nazis whatsoever. While I think Hitler did a good job getting Germany back on its feet, I feel that he overreached too far. He was better as a domestic civilian leader than he was a military leader, but he definitely made things worse going forward.

Personally, though, I'm more in the belief that World War I should not have ended as disastrously as it did for Germany, as it created the conditions that led into WWII. Austria-Hungary's dissolution was inevitable, but Germany was a stable, mostly homogeneous state. Alsace-Lorraine is debatable, but splitting a corridor for Poland into the sea was a severe disaster, along with the harsh stipulations laid upon Germany in general in Versailles.

Versailles was a mistake, and honestly, the Brits and French needed to learn some humility. Instead, they got greedy at the table and took most of the rewards for themselves, including colonies in the Middle East, Africa, and the Pacific, while giving little in compensation to Italy, Japan, and everyone else who participated. There was also little effort to actually enforce some portions of the peace deals, only those that applied to Britain and France.

I definitely say that although there is no true thing as "good guys," the closest thing to the good guys lost World War I. France and Britain had both shed blood in Europe like Germany, yet all their lessons and humility vanished at the peace table.
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>>162417353
wrong ip
71.76.238.214
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>>162417353
wrong IP but still people JOIN NOW
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>>162417353
>192.168.0.10
Meant 71.76.238.214
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>>162417390
And I should add that I am aware that not all the peace deals were arranged in Versailles. I'm just speaking in general that it was a fucking disaster and that had they followed Wilson's 14 Points, maybe there would have been less tension.
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>>162417246
>downloaded HPM form the pastebin
>downloaded the patch from the wiki
still fucked lad, I dont even know what is going on.
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>>162417468
>>162417460
I don't have HoD, if I pirate it, can I still play? Even if it's another day (cause y'all can't wait for me today).
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>>162417369
To stop blobbing.
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>>162417527
just opt into the 3.04 update on steam
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>>162417541
Yes. Make sure you get the 3.04 patch found here >>162409274
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>>162416894

If not for the Third Reich, Soviets would have taken all of Europe by the end of the 50s.
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>>162417598
Ok downloading some shit. I'm pretty bad at Victoria 2 though...
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>>162417565
>paying money to Jewhan
I paedofile'd it lad.
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For some reason my middle class pops are unable to get everyday needs lategame. Which is weird because they have 0% tax, and I'm rank 1 in everything (Playing as Germany.)
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which is better?
coffee
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Please join our MP.
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PLS JOIN MP FOR GOOD FUN TIMES
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r8 europ
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>>162418205
or tea?
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>>162418205
>>162418343
boy he bOUTA DO IT
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>>162418269
What is ip
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>>162418293
>Chechnya
>Venice
>that NA
>3(three) blobs into france
>Portublob
other than that its pretty gud
7/10
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>>162416437
>>162418535
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>>162418205
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>>162418667
gween tea
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>>162418205
>>162418343
based Turkish tea t.bh
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>>162418343
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>>162418793
see
>>162418667
>>162418804
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>>162418793
black tea, loose
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>>162418804
DELET THIS
E
L
E
T

T
H
I
S
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>>162418958
but which one
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>>162419014
>no milk
Burgeryank detected. Off yourself, me laddy mate.
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>>162419115
>milk
eww
I've tried it before, it's too light for my tastes
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>>162419096
see
>>162418667
>>162418804
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>>162418293
>Czechia
>Slovakia
>Czechoslovakia
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So Crusader Kings II.

Game had worked in the past on my computer but I recall having numerous issues getting it working. (Exe not found, few other things.) But I did eventually get it working.

Time passes and I got the urge to play again today and went to launch it.
>New loading screen featuring a Reaper
>Loading Databases
>Crash

>tried verifying files and it apparently removed the exe
so that's fun.

If memory serves, the fix applied in the past was just to pirate the damn game and toss some of those files into the Steam copy to get it working properly.

Any alternatives?
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>>162419189
Black tea just tastes like soil mixed with water, how can you drink such a thing?
When did you start drinking it? Wondering if your tastebuds died and it's all you can taste.
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>>162419207
>killed 100,000,000 people and only 1% literacy increase
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>>162419352
>Black tea just tastes like soil mixed with water, how can you drink such a thing?
sugar or honey is enough
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Hey would anyone be up for a Vicky 2 HPM multiplayer?
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>>162419207
What did you kill?
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>>162418205
>>162418343
>not wine
smfh
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>>162419473
fuck u m8
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>>162419473
Just reinstalled V2 and AHD, pirating HoD right now. Can you link the mod/patch please?
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>>162419207
post map
are any japs showing up in manchuria or wherever else
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>>162419393
Then why wouldn't you just have it with milk? Milk is essentilly sugar water.

>>162419472
He looks a bit podgy, but then again I had a cat like that that was all skin and bones.
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>>162419472
enjoy your toxoplasmosis brain disease
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>>162419634
there are jap majorities in some of central america, honk kong and a couple of african provinces
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>>162419650
it has proteins and fats too
lactose is not the same as table sugar
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>>162419616
Its in the op
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>>162419765
>didnt even take Cali

who cares
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>>162419472
His fur looks balkanized would make for a disgusting map desu
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>>162419771
Yeah, I was talking taste wise. I used to drink cola but it started tasting like shit eventually so now I just drink bottled water and tea. The bottled water because I hate the taste of flouride, it tastes of bleach.
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Some1 host HPM multiplayer.
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>>162416692
I cant join is it started already?
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>>162420026
this
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>>162419872
I was in the process of fabricating dismantle on the us
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>>162420090
No one joined so we stopped
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>>162420026
Hosted ;)
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>discordcucks spent 2 days trying to host an mp game
>still can't do it
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>>162420090
we gave up
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>>162419663
Isn't that from eating raw meat?
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>>162420131
How to join?
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>>162419929
flouride is actually a bit sweet, the bleach taste is probably clorine or bpa
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Post ip
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>>162420359
CUT YOUR FUCKING FILESIZES REEEEEEE
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>>162420305
You say that like they're irreconcilable positions. The discord retards are the same emotionally and developmentally stunted children who would support Drumpfy.
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>>162419765
this is even stupider then shenryrr's run
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YOLO
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>>162420305
>>162420337
It is this easy isn't it
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>>162420468
>he posts this after his retarted candidate lost
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>>162420630
why are democrats spinning the memes?
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>>162420487
Grorious
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>>162420131
POST IP
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>>162420487
t. Shen
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>>162420676
The underdog has to resort to memery.
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>>162409869
Fucking nice.
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>>162409869
nice
and again, what mod
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>>162420832
they took the meme seriously
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I forget in political rights if I have all all allowed rights I cant genocide right?
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>>162415421
Get even Großer mein lad. It's only 1867.
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>>162418293
Actually had the potential to look decent/10
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>>162420974
not an argument

you lost.
period.
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>>162420832
>>162420905
>Author’s note: All the Alt-Right really wants is ethnics in video game journalism.
Fucking wew
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>>162421048
show steel factories
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>>162421183
I did that in paint you dumb memer
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which do I go for?
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>>162421261
I know there's a significant hakka population in qing

who are they though? are they still around in china? are they still in borneo? are they southeast asians or closer to han chinese?
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>>162421261
the uninstall.exe route
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>>162421261
>all of Borneo united
>1848
>14.20
how
>5.11
fucking how
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>>162421261
What is this meme? Are they the indonesian country that has chinese accepted?
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>>162421261
Are you forming Indonesia? Or Malaysia? Also do blue but don't take the blue stuff in China.
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>>162421261
Can you morons stop putting fucking B instead ß? If you can't use a ß, at least use ss instead of.
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>>162421261
Blob as hard as possible
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>>162421458
treddit
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>>162421458
But Anon, that's gross.
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>>162421458
It's a meme dude. Asking the to stop using b is like asking them to stop liquorposting.
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>>162421385
using your ally Qing and lots and lots of savescumming

>>162421390
>the indonesian country that has chinese accepted?
yes, but only certain chinese.

>>162421418
lad, if i was gonna form a country it'd be china.

>>162421458
>he doesnt know the meme

>>162421487
so blue then?
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>>162421261
REMOVE DUTCH

>>162421351
Hakka are the colonist subrace of the Chinese

t. leaf Hakka
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>>162421048
Remove kebab from europe, cuck ukraine less, portulol, but otherwise good.
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>>162421560
>t. leaf Hakka
ebin
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>>162421560
>colonist subrace
what does that mean?
what language do they speak?
do they still speak it or have they been assimilated in mainland china?
do you speak it?
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>>162421547
>your ally Qing
How xo you ally them?
Pretty cute for them to help each other, what's the history behind them? Chink colony?
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>>162421492
>>162421545
>>162421547
>it's a meme

Fuck this shit, too many memes here. I'm going back to Paradoxplaza.
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>>162421313
Could you just stop? Every election period the losing side gets extremely salty and treats it like the candidate chosen is their worst nightmare. I'm just tired of it.
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>>162421687
They start allied, you probably didn't notice before because it's usually AI Lanfang that breaks the alliance within months after you start the game.
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I want to Make Prydain Great Again, which point should I use to start my conquests to unite the Briton people under one banner?
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>>162421852
>>162421909
what is wrong with you?
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>>162421261
>tfw this province will be majority Hakka after converting all the asian minor pops.
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>>162421763
I'm not upset. The next 4 years are going to be hilarious when the drumpftards realise that Donald conned them all.
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>>162421852
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>>162421852
>I'll see someone I think is hot nd then think "oh yeah, because she looks like my mom".
Oedipus pls
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>>162422024
I just expressed my disgust at him, idiot.
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>>162421787
>another salty celt
Heh, which one of the colonised "people" are you?
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>>162421650
>what does that mean?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakka_people
>what language do they speak?
Hakka is its own dialect of Chinese
>do they still speak it or have they been assimilated in mainland china?
Only if you're from the sticks in the old country, most Hakka speak either Cantonese and/or Mandarin plus whatever their local language is
>do you speak it?
Only very little
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>>162421048
what about now?
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>>162422061
>the next 4 years are going to be hilarious when the X supporters realize that X conned them all
So you really are upset. I've heard that plenty of times from people who were upset with the results of the election.
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>>162422050
Are they a republic in game?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanfang_Republic
>>
Ok so I have a question for Eu4. I'm playing the ottomans because I'm dicking around. The question is how high can I make my AE go up? I'm trying to make the mamluks so mad at me that they will never go above -200 right now its 1514 and my ae with them is -334.
>tl;dr is there a cap to ae in eu4?
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Which should I pick?
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>>162422338
As Dutch imperialism encroached upon modern-day Indonesia, Luo established the Lanfang Republic in 1777 (with its capital in East Wanjin) to protect the Chinese settlers from Dutch oppression.[13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24][25][26][27][28][29][30]

jesus what the hell did they go autist on those sources for
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>>162422147
>implying

Nah, Anglo-Saxons are better (coming from a Irish-Anglo mutt), I just want to make a Welsh empire for shits and giggles.

So which Welsh point should I start at? I'm doing another run where I started as the Petty King of Manaw. Currently, I'm the King of Ireland, except for one shitty province that Mercia took.

But I want to unite the Welsh kingdom before I start to meme-blob around. So who do I pick for a Welsh start in Wales?
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>>162421852
There was a study they mentioned on Daily Planet where they found that people prefer to have one-night stands with people who look different from their family, while they would prefer to long-term relationships with others who look similar.

The explanation put forth is that we are evolutionarily predisposed to do so, I think it was partly because we are used to and feel comfortable among family members and partly for genetic reasons.
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>>162422338
nah, its a Presidential Dictatorship, but thats what a republic becomes once it loses voting in-game.
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>>162422446
They wanted to throw Buzzfeed sources to validate "muh European imperialism is bad abloo-bloo".
>>
Diplomatic or Influence ideas?
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>>162422602
espionage
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>>162422602
Too vague. What is your situation? are you in the HRE?
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>>162422446
Nobody believed the Chinese could actually found a colony Indonesia, the absolute madmen.

>>162422449
Britain CK2 games get boring as fuck, especially when played as an EU4 tier blobber. I only enjoy marrying for titles and very occasionally warring for strong claims.
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>tfw no kaiserreich /gsg/ mp
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>>162422652


>>162422681
scrubbing it up as Castille, want to push into europe/africa and let vassal portugal do the colonizing for me. I'd really want influence but Iberian Wedding fired really early (1460) so I'm really hurting for relations slots and Diplomatic gets the extra one much earlier

Influence looks better long term but I'll need more allies to get rid of France early
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>>162423098
Influence is a much better idea group if you are grabbing vassals then annexing them. Also the AE reduction is so helpful. Whereas Diplo is for picking up a lot of alliances. Honestly you don't need a lot of allies if you got early wedding and portuguese vassal. You need like one or two.
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>>162422372
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>>162423526
Are you the same faggot on /his/?
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this is the correct solution
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>>162423526
>Mediterranean

You mean

>Andalusian rape babies (Catalonia)
>Moorish rape babies (Toulouse)
>More Moorish rape babies (Sicily)
>Turkish rape babies (Greeks)
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>>162423393
That's what I've been thinking, but France has Provence and Genoa which could prove annoying.

Luckily Austria and Burgundy don't hate each other so I guess I could just grab them both and take the dip hit for a while, thanks.
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tfw I needed just one more month and I could've killed another hundred million chinks
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>>162423865
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>>162423865
Don't worry anon you did great

t. chink
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>>162419472
Bretty cool face
9/11
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>>162423865
>tfw no one ever does a Commie Japan game
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>>162424961
For some reason all the communists yhere keep getting stabbed.
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So whats better

1 eng 4 Inf 4 Art 1 Hus

or

1 eng 3 Inf 5 Art 1 Hus
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>>162425232
1st one
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>>162425232
/gsg/ told me the first one so it has to be the right one
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>>162425232
>1 eng
I sincerely do not understand this meme. Aren't engy's still bugged and thus worthless due to their increased upkeep cost for no increase in anything?
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>not choosing 4 inf 4 art 1 eng 1 hus 1 dragoon for maximum flanking
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>>162424241
kek
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>>162425606
dragoons are white and based
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>>162425232
ditch the eng
if you really want to sperg about occupying a bit faster, just get individual eng's to run around behind the front occupying provinces

ideal comp is 4inf/5art/1hus

>>162425606
>33,000
stop
dragoons have no benefits over hussars
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>>162425232
4 inf 5 art 1 hus

>1 eng 3 Inf 5 Art 1 Hus
jesus christ why would you think this is anywhere near a good idea?
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Is there any MP still going on?
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>>162426065
>a new steamgruppen emerges
Great idea
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>>162426065
meant for >>162425912
obviously
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>>162426132
linking them to the existing steamgruppes so we can consolidate them in there instead of in the thread
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How's my Yugoslavia?
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>>162426423
pretty radical senpai
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>>162426423
rad :)
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Who's gonna buy my mercenaries?! Jesus
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>>162426561
>>162426602
Very funny, but non-aligned.
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>>162426139
looks like it got deleted
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4d memery
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>>162426201
But we don't have an official steam or discord group and if anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread.
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>>162426423
Tubacular, brah.
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>>162426612
hmm
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>>162426938
>white plantation owner cucking the slaves

Based.

Speaking of which, though, will they ever update the fucking nigger potatoes?
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>>162426876
At least spell it right.
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Can someone help me make some sense out of this promotion tooltip? (This is for promotion rate roll, not promotion direction)

1. How do the promotion factors add up to 8.50%? The only addition here is +.3% from poor strata getting 70% of their life needs. And according to the wiki, there's a base of .25% Adding that up would only get to .55% promotion factor.

2. Why is the bonus from a lit rate of 10% only +0.0%? Shouldn't it be +.6%?

3. How does administrative efficiency factor in to the equation? It helps promotion speed, but what does the 13.76% mean?

4. What does the 8.50% promotion factor mean anyways? Why is a pop with 42k only having a single farmer promote in a month?

http://www.victoria2wiki.com/Promotion
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>>162427085
Swel, brah
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5d backgammon
it seems I might have to restart since the us turned all their colonies into states so early
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>>162427187
It seems to add onto it. So if you presume that the promotion rate starts at 100, it ends up at 8.66 if you then add the admin.
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>>162425842
>dragoons have no benefits over hussars
>falling for the 200% recon meme
Dragoons have better atk/def as well as being cheaper than hussars. 1 recon is absolutely fine if your 30k stacking
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>>162427432
>Prussian Empire of Mexico
Lazy as shit Paradox
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>>162427810
>not wanting the based Königreich Preußisch Mexiko
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>>162427573
I don't really follow. What are you adding the admin efficiency to? How are you factoring in the additional promotion factors? How are you getting 8.66?

If you express it in an equation, I might understand what you're saying
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>>162427785
>well as being cheaper than hussars. 1 recon is absolutely fine if your 30k stacking
Not other poster but doesn't having more recon benefit the army?
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>>162428147
100 - 5 - 0.1 - 0.1 - 0.1 - 0.1 - 100 + 0.3 +13.76 = 8.66
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Long Live the King.
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not bad
not bad at all
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>>162428517
I don't think the factors with the red X next to them are calculated.

For instance, the -5.0% is rich strata is not factored in for the farmers but is factored in for the aristocrats. Also, you can see with this picture, using your method the promotion factor would be 8.56% but it totals to zero.

Thanks for trying to help though
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>>162407853
W&B
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hakka_people#Cuba
Neat
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:D
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Should I let Trotsky take control in the USSR in HoY 4 or should I just purge?
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>>162429139
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>>162429223
absolute madman
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>>162429223
>Prussian States of America
This needs to be a thing fuck
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>>162429223
Damn son how hard are you savescumming?
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>>162429557
place in the sun is pretty quick and cheap
other than that, haven't agroed others, gave neuchatel to switz and took the rhein decision that slashes infamy more
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>>162428716
OOOO thx for giving me the next country i should play, i never played france in eu4 or vic 2 since one of the subspecies that i hate the most in the planet are the french
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>>162429750
>>162429557
I'm gonna start doing it now tho
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>>162429785
Same it's my first time.
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What are the best mods for EU3?
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>>162429929
It shows.
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>>162430284
Death and taxes, Meiou and a few others...
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:^)
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epic
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>>162430760
That fucking flag
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>>162430872
>The Portuguese are landing in Miami!

What -did- he mean by this?
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>>162432280

>muh horseshoe theory
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>>162432280
This desu senpai
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>>162432346
triggered, alt right babby?
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>>162407840
>Byzantine Emperor Nikephoros II Phokas is assassinated by his wife Theophano and her lover, the later Emperor John I Tzimiskes.
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Holy hell Allying Germany makes vicky 2 way to easy. Didn't expect how hard they would shit down Austrian-Ottoman alliance throat.

Time to blob like crazy into the middle east.
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I am playing EU3 as Bohemia and trying to form HRE got to last reform, but when I click it nothing happens. Is this some sort of bug.
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>>162433325
post screens lad, are you playing Egypt?
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>>162433325
God you are such an insufferable r*dditor.
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raking in the big bucks
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>>162409359
>diplomats
>johann
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>>162433824
what do you plan to do as Hawaii? get annexed? im geniunely curious lad.
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>>162412887
>Portugal got Castille
Not bad, Spain still hasn't formed for me in 1680. What religions are the great powers in Europe, as I'd say just build up an army and preemptively go to war thus destroying the Protestant European powers
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>>162434278
afk while listening to music, shitposting and reading the History of Hawaii wikipedia page
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>>162414981
Check the army composition, your military tech, the terrain, how much you spend on army maintenance and your generals stats
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>>162434294
Aragon*
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>>162434343
How do you do this? Vicky 2 has no borderless window mode as far as I know.
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>>162434764
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Why don't I get the decision to reform the FRCA/USCA?
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>>162423634
>Shia next to Sunni
>Pakistan existing
The only thing you got right was kurdistan
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>>162434764
Official support for borderless window mode was added in the 3.04 beta patch
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>>162435227
>le freedom fighter kurd woman meme
They aren't going to fuck you anon.
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>TFW you realize that all trade in India can be funneled into Bengal

I CANT STOP CUMMING DAD
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When and where is it worth making trade
Companies, and can I turn them back into my provinces. Also how do you actually get a monopoly on a trade good, as surely the time it takes to conquer all the provinces exceeds the playable time
>>162435391
>Not wanting turkey to fight a two front war
WEW LAD
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>>162435472
Those are surprisingly nice borders for EU4.
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>>162433759
Italy

Took the rest of my cores plus Levant and Arabia.
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>>162435381
I am completely confused.
Is there like 3.04 regular patch and 3.04 beta patch? Or is it the same thing?
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>>162435472
Now to spread the (East) Aryan race across the globe.
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>>162435643
3.03 is the regular patch, 3.04 is the beta patch.
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What did Pope mean by this?
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>>162435196
ANSWER ME REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162436128
Looks like the cuck pope Francis the Roman arrived a few centuries early.
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>>162434278
Westernize, colonise Pacific islands, create Great Polinesian Empire, assimilate Micronesians and gas Melanesian scum.
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>really want to make a mod for EU3/CK2
>rarely play either nowadays
I must get an outlet for my creative autism
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>>162435196
Because it's available only for South American nations.
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>Playing as Prussia/North German Confederation
>Austria and France are allied
>still need to assert Hegemony and get Alsace-Lorraine
>team up with Russia to beat both
>war lasts from 1858 to 1859
>1,4 Million dead according to the save game analyser
Wew lads.
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>hurr anon, I KNOW you cheated, there's no way for japan to get alaska
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>>162436861
>needing to assert hegemony
>not just playing the sphere game
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>>162437264
You can't bring the large scale death and destruction of modern warfare to 1860's Europe that way, famalan.
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I'd like to play some MP games for Hoi 4, Is there anything like a Teamspeak channel or a group I can join for some games?
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What's been happening in these threads?

>>162408748
I've been missing the last few threads for like a few weeks now, what happened? You did a giant AAR?

I was gonna do one but people just weren't interested and school work picked up.

Are you the AARanon that did the CK2 Jerusalem AAR? If you did one since then, can you link it?
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>>162437918
>What's been happening in these threads?

What do you mean?
I haven't been on /gsg/ in a week.
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Someone host Napoleon's Legacy
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>>162435196
Just changeowner them to it
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>>162421261
How do you draw these lines?
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>>162436128
>accept the papal bull
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>>162435472

Bengal looks like a hand reaching out to the rest of India desu. Upper salient is the thumb
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>>162436128
>But duh crooosaids
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>>162438156
Maybe later
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is there a mod that fixes the HOI4 AI, was playing as France and Germany just sat at my border the whole game with two hundred divisions while Italy invaded through savoy with a hundred divisions.

AI seems to have no idea how to cooperate on invasions
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>>162438292
HALP
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>>162438660
play the game or search google and stop being a retard who needs to be spoonfed to every little thing
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>>162438695
>looked it up on google
>nothing came up
made me think and the game doesn't tell you
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>>162438713
No shit, you asked the game how to do that and it didn't reply? wow, you are smarter than I thought.
>he's too retarded to use google
I'm looking at 2 google results that answer your question.
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>>162438776
yeah but you know what they are called retard
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Has the Ruhr Boom decision in HPM always raised the birth rates in Germany as a whole? I thought it used to only do it for the Ruhr provinces
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>>162438814
They are called "learn to fucking google or play the game because I'm not spoonfeeding retards who can't figure shit"
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>>162438865
>being this retarded
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>>162438918
I'm not the one begging for people to spoonfed me. :^)
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>>162438945
I looked up how to draw battleplans none of them tell me how to bring it up
> le spoonfeed meme
Helping someone is spoonfeeding
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>>162438837
It's been that way since vanilla.
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>>162439001
Oh look, you figured out how it's called.
What a fucking genius, now if only you figured out how to properly search for shit or learnt how to look at a screen then maybe you wouldn't need to beg for "halp" online.
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>>162439184
The newfag knows how to spew buzzwords to try to offend others, how quaint.
At least you know how to google that.
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>>162419393
>>162419352
Both of you have literal shit taste unless you buy lipton teabags or some shit
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Has anyone here tried to play as Somalia in Victoria 2?
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>>162439082
>how it's called
FOREIGNERS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162439272
retard nothing on google tells me how actually open up the editor
>>162439365
also this :^)
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>>162439405
You were doing so well, figured out how to buzzwords and how to use google but still can't connect the dots
Sad
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>>162439405
He's foreign, but you're fucking retarded. It's an obvious button, you can't possibly miss it. If you've played the game for over 2 hours you should know. Your buzzwords are cringeworthy.
HALFWITS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162439474
nice bait m8 consider sue of side
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>>162439474
>figured out how to buzzwords
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>>162439405
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/45354133325234433/85F5A6363C242DADF995967F5FABC3A8D84C03E5/
here now fuck off and stop bitching you fucking retard
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>>162439342
yes
its absolute shit that takes centuries to civilize would not recommend
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>>162439553
>that german empire blob
kys
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>>162439553
>helping someone who's so fucking retard he can't google for shit or even look at the game
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>>162439659
>shitting up the thread for no reason.
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>>162439721
I agree, who the fucks shits the thread with some shit they can easily google or learn alone?
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>>162439721
Any drama and abuse is better than autistic Willy/Steamgruppe/le redditor XDDD posters
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>>162439759
>fucking up a thread with shitposting
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>>162439759
yeah and then who the fuck keeps on replying to that retard instead of giving him what he wants so he can fuck off back to his hugbox where his mommy tells him he is smart
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>>162439775
>Shitposting about shitposting about shitposting
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>>162439792
I like to tear down retards hugboxes.
Plus he would learn to do shit himself instead of being a lazy ass retard.
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>>162439775
>complaining about shitposting on /gsg/
>>
>First game of Extended Timeline
>Be Parthia for ezmode
>Currently in the 4th century, I used attrition to win a war against Rome and this resulted in it collapsing three centuries earlier
>Plan on owning all of the middle east, Persia and India, don't feel like blobbing further

What should I expect late-game? Will I get nuk'd?
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>>162439792
>>162439852
You could just ignore him entirely
Do you know what 'don't feed the troll' means, you utter newfag?
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>>162439905
if you arent a retard you should be able to own every single province in the old world, before you can colonize.
>>
I've been playing CK2 with my brother for the past week since I had a week of work. We've racked up a lot of hours on it. Really enjoy playing the Norse countries we have done a lot of restarts and new games without getting far. Finally have a game where we've gone for 100 years and it is looking good.

I was wondering what EU4 is like because I might be tempted to buy that doing the Christmas sale. Also wondering if there are any other fun starts other than the Norse countries?
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>>162439912
>I was merely pretending, I wasn't asking for help.
This is some next level butthurt.
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>>162439951
>>don't feel like blobbing further
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>tfw I ensure the crusades are successful as Jerusalem in a 1150-ish ck2 start for a megacampaign
>tfw St. Thomas's dream is fully realized by eu4
>tfw the north african barbary states also received their own crusades in ck2, and i ensure they're ruled by appropriate castillian holy orders into eu4
>tfw Catholicism reigns supreme despite the protestant bullshit
>tfw Orthodoxy only exists in the pitiful Byzantine state, allowed only to rule over European Greeks and smelly balkan peoples.
>tfw islam is completely BTFO, only just a few islands left to purge the taint of mohammad from completely
>tfw fought back the mongols and didn't let kiev get raised to the ground.
>tfw russians embraced catholicism in light of mongols being fucked by catholic crusades to restore the wounded bear.
>tfw ensuring that the holy land is secured on all borders with christian monastic orders
>tfw turning the holy city of Jerusalem into the highest developed province in the world, with all of india's trade and resources bolstering its coffers
>tfw technological advancement soars with mudslimes removed, panama and suez canals come early with my immense resources
>tfw can't wait to release all my vassals, client states, and colonies before converting to victoria 2

why didn't history turn out this way?
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>>162439912
oh yes ignoring the trolls, it worked out so well right? now we dont have the mega links thx to your great strategy
>>162439978
>playing as parthia
>not wanting to blob like your ancestors
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If singles Victoria 3 is released and is so good that it becomes /gsg/'s flagship. 1 year later EvW is announced.

If dubs HPM gets a girlfriend.
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I have black flag of France and some other counties in HPM
Why?
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>>162440038

here's the new world.

>couldn't stop the fucking chinks from getting to commiefornia in time

do I purge them too?
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>>162440126
Your installation is fucked up genius
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>>162440038
greed
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>>162440038
This looks pretty comfy. That Papal State is out of place, though
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>>162440096
Dubs and V3 has mana
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>>162440152
yes purge them, chinks arent human
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>Vic3 released
>Only changes are a more up-to-date artistic direction and explanation of game mechanics on mouseover

Would you buy?
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>>162440152
>>162440038


religion

my shitty client state in india picked humanism and many of the states had religious zeal modifiers so I couldn't convert all the poo people completely.

do I stop at India?
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>>162440274
>up-to-date artistic direction
3D maps fuck off, 2D flatmap or bust
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>>162439962
Anyone, just a simple yeah EU4 is good if you liked x about ck2 would be nice
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>>162440159
How is this possible? I tried both dropbox and mega links.
Flags are ok in vanilla.
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>>162440038
also if you can you should add some land for another order down there to border ethiopia other than that comfy as fuck map
the only problem i see is that fucking papal state
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>>162440274
>more up-to-date artistic direction
Detail on this shit, because I don't think I'll like it.
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>>162440152
That Chinese California actually looks aesthetic as af, I'd leave them be
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>>162440361

Just the regular graphics but more anti-aliased and maybe a slight change to the font of the country names

pls buy
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>>162440291
Purge the muslims and the pr*testants
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>>162440352
Let me guess, you pirated the game an didn't bother to check the checksum or even the game version.
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Nice to see them actually attack the native provinces, but why not go for the easy kill.
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>>162440553
Pirated 3.03
Updated to 3.04
Installed mod
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>>162440180
>>162440360

The Papal State is definitely a problem in my game. I cleaned up my ck2 borders before going into EU4, but one thing I really couldn't ignore was how the Pope crusaded Mali while I was busy killing all the mongol doom stacks. Normally I would just win all the crusades, but the Pope somehow managed to make it to mali.

then he not only converted every spear chucker in sight, but apparently the pope got jealous of my eastern empire and decided he was there to stay in west africa. even into eu4 since he has religious ideas it's easier for him to convert cultures and has I can only assume genocided every tribal black man that didn't praise jesus and start chiseling marble statues. then he decided rome wasn't good enough to be his capital and decided jenne was just right because he was a OPM in italy after converting.

I considered forcing his capital back to rome and creating a papal client state, but you can't do that over seas. maybe I'll just force a catholic mali to come back and eat the pope out of west africa before I convert.
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>>162440850
Yeah, I was right.
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>>162440853
WE WUUZZZZZZZ BOLLLLOGNAH
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>>162440579
>native nations will be attacked by native tribes
kek
>>162440853
Do you have the 'colour in wasteland' turned on?
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>be Russian
>be constantly overthrown
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>>162441352
Mengkonia looks like the kid going 'muh ancestor' to Tut's face mask?
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>>162441462
>be normal teenager
>get into bed at night
>cry about how Nicky was too pure
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How do I lift myself out of bankruptcy after repaying all my loans in vicky?
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Best army lists per 5 tech levels for eu4?
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>>162441679
restart the game if you lose a war, go bankrupt, declare war with a wrong casus belli, miss an event, don't sphere an entire continent (of your choice), don't build suez canal/panama canal, or don't complete your goals by 1890.
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>>162441784
Seriously? It never goes away naturally?
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>>162441842
Yes it goes after 1-2 years.
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>>162441139
FUCKKK
The Tudors have died out, and now a habsburg rules the throne of Great Britain, and so my ever faithful ally will besiege me, and my hopes of claiming the portugese colonies is washed up on the bank of the Styx
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>>162442234
>now a habsburg rules the throne of Great Britain
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:')

This game is so fucking easy, this is only my second ever playthrough and I can crush Spain, Venice and the Pope at once
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>>162442345
>Unironically being protto
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>>162442275
>implying a stuart world is not the best
WEW LASSIE
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>>162442345
>This game is so fucking easy,
Yes we know lad
>Protestant Italy
That makes no fucking sense is this the Roman Question 300 years ahead of schedule or something
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>>162442345
What difficulty are you playing on and are you savescumming
Protoshits should burn for letting the muslim in
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>>162442404
I'm Protestant IRL lad

>>162442483
Main reason I went Protestant is that the Pope excommunicated my last 10 leaders (nearly all my Presidents and my first king) and wouldn't stop their perfidy

>>162442507
The default one, I didn't change any settings

Not savescumming, Based Habsburgs and Based Wittelsbach and Based Anglo helped me
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>grand strategy allows you to BTFO France in the Franco-Prussian war, WW1, and the subsequent alternate WW2

One of the best feelings tbqh lads.

Stomp that abomination until IT'S

FUCKING

DEAD

>tfw you will never Trianon France irl
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>>162442610
>protestant IRL
Let's see how far the cuckoldry goes
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>>162442610
>Protestant IRL

One finger's breadth above saudi arabia and pagan larpers desu
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>>162442234
Can someone please explain, how desert dwellers can amass 24k well equipped armies
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>>162440981
How to get right checksum then? I downloaded 3.03 from link in the op, and from another source, and they have different checksums. I updated them with 3.04 patch from the wiki, and then installed the mod, but flags are black in both versions.
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>>162442805
If you are too retarded to pirate shit properly, buy the game.
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>>162442805
you need to install every patch lad in right order. first install vicky from op, then find 3.02 and 3.03, otherwise you are fucked. had the same problem few days ago
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i want to get my feet wet with grand strategy. should i start with EU4 or CK2?
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>>162443086
eu4, play the tutourial and then post here
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>be a German citizen of French ethnicity
>decide to chimp out against those who give you liquor for practically free
>this happens
>die
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>>162443151
will do. thanks bro
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>>162442345
fucking disgusting lombard shit
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>>162442769
Never conquer Scotland again, it's just too funny to see what they do, also free colonies
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>>162443086
EU4 is more similar to V2 than CK2 which is some weird hybrid of roleplaying and grand strat
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Their perfidy has ended at last
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>>162442993
But Vicky from piratebay is 3.03 already.
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good ideas for a GB with colonies and a foothold in france. Already got Exploration, expansion, quality, religious, maritime ideas.
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I just finished doing a census of the Jewish population in the German Empire:
95,119 working age males
x4 = 380,476

Total Population: 66,460,000

Jewish Percentage = 0.572%


Are there enough jews here to potentially destroy the empire like IRL?
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>>162444114
cringed desu
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why the longest used flag of the ottoman empire isnt used anywhere? i never saw it before
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>>162444267
>Fictitious_Ottoman_flag_3.svg.png
If you are going to pretend you are retarded, don't be retarded about it.
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>declare war on the ottomans after the crimean war for thessalia (as greece)
>fighting for years, defending mountains/hills and attacking turkish reinforcements
>mobilize, occupy areas, retreat when necessary, etc

>ottoman blockades fuck up my score
>ottoman mobilization breaks up my defense
>battle of athens
>2 shitty rolls and wrong general getting command ensure my defeat

>nothing left to do, settle for a white peace
>1 month later berlin congress awards me most of thessalia for free

I don't know how to feel about this.
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>>162444114
>having jews in the first place
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>>162444456
be grateful that they accepted the white peace and you didn't got T*RKED
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>Manufactories spawn in Ming
>Enlightenment spawns on a designated shitting street
1.18 was a mistake.
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>>162444456
give the ottomans greece back :^)
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>Ignore the coalition they said
>Grow some balls they said
Ive got the #1 and #2 country in the world on my side and not a single GP on theirs, France is going to fucking join their side bringing it up to 230k if they bring Aragon.
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>>162444661
>playing with meme flags
WEW LAD
>>
best year to start in CK2?
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>>162444637
Lad it's accurate. In real life it was just plain chance that those things occured in Europe, we got lucky and should apologise for using our lucky position to genocide other peoples. It could've happened in the Great Zimbabwe.
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>>162444701
Its MEIOU I dont have a choice on anything.
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>>162444456
Never declare on Ottomen unless you can get Russia to come into the war with you. Most of the time Ottomen are just sitting on 0 mil because of constant revolts but they can mobilize a way bigger army than you'll ever be able to. Let big daddy Russki beat up the Torkmen for you and maybe you can get two states in one war.
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>>162444758
>MEIOU
Stopped reading there

>Can't have irrelevant HRE provinces every on of them must have an equal chance to form Germany
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>>162444114
>63% literacy
all of them will end up as university professors and destroy your country from within.

make sure to cancel any education reforms, minimize education spending or go for a final solution ASAP.

>>162444207
>cringed
*cringes*
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>>162440096
>>162440215
>dubs
you have to go back newfriends
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>>162444836
Over half of them are irreverent and only like 12 or so HRE provinces have a chance of growing large. They are only there as a fuck you to anyone trying to expand.
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>>162444760
THEY ALWAYS ALLY AUSTRIA AFTER CRIMEAN WAR.

AUSTRIA BTFO OF RUSSIA.

RUSSIA WON'T SPHERE ME BEFORE CRIMEAN WAR.
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>>162442640
kill yourself desu man, latins are the trve master race
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>>162440038
>Indus Hierosolymitus
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>>162445046
>famalam
*cringes*
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>>162443789
Trade
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>have to put down the revolutionaries of france because they threaten the monarchies ordained by god's word
>3.6 million christians die, most of them just from attrition alone

hope it was worth it you fucking baguettes.
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Who to do?
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>>162445192

got a better name? I just used latin for everything really, even though my crusader states are mostly french.
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>>162445371
Russia, liberate Europe from Syndicalism
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>>162445412
The stubbing of the toe
>>
MP when
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>>162445570
8-player co-op Soviet Union HoI3 MP when
>>
Someone give me a country to play in HPM
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Why are they so stupid?
>literally ZERO artillery
>literally ZERO cavalry
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>>162445675
Niger
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>>162445675
Jamaica, conquer Ethiopia.
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>>162445808
Back the fuck off?!?
>>
Is it possible to add a modifier that decreases the influence other countries put on you by 100%?
Getting sick of being sphered when I play Switzerland desu
>>
Because /Undertale/ was made to house the autists and retards who couldn't restrict their faggotry to one thread.
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>>162445963
See >>162445901
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>>162445675
Persia.
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>>162445675
Persia is always the patrician choice.
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>>162445802
Conscription army`
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>>162445910
Just become a SP and tell them to gtfo.
Your mountains, a fort/dug-in and a half decent defensive general should destroy any invador.
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>>162446243
Don't think 60k Swiss can keep out 600k Germans 2bh
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>>162446330
Ally with Russia.
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Was it a smart move?
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>>162446446
>blobs into denmark, france and lithuania, but doesn't take any immediate czech or austrian land
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>>162443380
Is this the end game thing that makes it into a map painting simulator
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>>162446563
I blobbed into Bohemia and the Sudetes, but I made them into a satellite after unrest got too high.
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>>162446446
Why you took Lithuania? It sucks in every way. Fucking Czech would have been tremendously more useful
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What borders for grosstexiums?
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>>162446330
You can definitely do it if you try your best!
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>>162446093
tgruica
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North Korea cant be stopped
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>>162446720
>>
>>162446720
All of North America and Chile
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>>162446942
Texas wanted a gateway to the Pacific because they wanted to trade with Peru and Chile.
>>
How to blob as Ryukyu in HPM?
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>>162436480
>>162446720
Loving these underdog playthroughs

we should all do an MP one
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>>162447120
git gud
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>>162447291
>tfw can't savescum in mp
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>>162447390
>implying
it'd just be long and annoying as fuck desu
>>
Do we have a resident janitor now? We're getting some relatively (for /gsg/) good coverage on deleting shitposts.
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>>162447291
rate my Europe btw
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>>162447732
>1.77 MB
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>>162447732
Historically accurate aside from the mess in italy.
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>>162448004
>Senussi
>Free Norway
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>join Prussia's call to arms against Russia
>66k Prussian soldiers marching back and forth between Odense and Copenhagen
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r8
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Someone host HPM multiplayer
>>
let's continue last night's hpm
t. swisslad
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>>162448624
Awful
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>>162448695
but i cant play for like a week
t. s-p lad
if you play but I dont im going to fall behind in industry senpai :(
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>>162448624
>Dutch persia

You could have prevented this
>>
Let's continue poopmod.

t. map mod expert
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>>162448624
>Dutch Persia
HOW IN THE FUCK IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?!?!?!?!
>>
>>162448624
This gets worse the longer I look at it
>>
What are the best countries to unite India as.
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>>162448624
>dutch persia
I...I didn't even know that was physically possible...
>BRAZILIAN AFRICA
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>162448624
>socialist republic
>In Turkey
REEEEEE
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>>162449571
Germany
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>>162428435

No, recon efficiency at 100℅ is the max you can use.
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>>162427785

Hussars higher base recon makes sieging province's go faster.
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>>162413997
>militant pacifists
Wew lad. How does this even make sense?
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>>162450767
They're pacifists in the foreign policy sense
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>>162450767

>Gandhi
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>>162450767
They violently oppose violence
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>>162451145
This brings back Stellaris memories
>>
>>162451360
Stellaris is shit.
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>>162451608
Your mother is shit too but that doesn't stop me from playing her
>>
I feel like playing EU4 what mod is any good?
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Does anybody know what happened to that code geass mod? Or any other similar alt-history mods besides divergences
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>>162451740
Actually quite good comment.
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>>162451360
>tfw STILL no empire borders for mac
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>>162439867
>Grand Strategy General
>Neither Grand, nor Strategic, nor a General.
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>>162451850
>
>
>
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>>162452028
>Heretical

>Pan-American

>Hegemony
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>>162440038
Yet despite all of this, you still let Iberia be ruled by moorish scum
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>>162442656
>>162442730
I hope you realize that IRL, its protestants who are the badass saviors of humanity and that its catholics who sre the cucks.

We aren't playing warhammer 40k lads
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>>162452262
Maybe not. Iberia is Catholic so probably some catholic ruler just took the Kingdom of Andalusia
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Yesss, they're slowly being eaten alive.
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>>162453639
>eating pigs
Meant to say NOT eating pigs
>>
Since we're in the mood for mp lately -
Anyone interested in a 5-or-so player HOI3 match? Want to keep it fairly small so we don't have to spam the general with LOL DISCONNECTED all the time.
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Once we win this war I can finally implode France and kick Spain out of Italy
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>>162454571
I should worship Allah but I'm an agnostic. Am I a cuck?
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>>162454027
The whole process of creating the universe is abstract. The idea of a day doesn't have any meaning when there is no sun or Earth. Most protestants believe God set into motion the creation of the universe. First light (big bang/stars) then earth and sea, then life.

God created humans to rule over Earth and animals to serve him; that is, set into event the motion that would create them, then rested as it unfolded.

Doubtlessly, God created animals first, then man; but conceptually, the primsry goal was for God to create man, something like Himself.
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>>162408068
Is this a young version of Johan? Like from 10 years ago? He is fat and bearded now.
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>>162454754
Do you worship something another kind of man created for themselves, by themselves, tailored after themselves, to justify their own existence?

If not, you're not a cuck.
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>>162454127
Buttflustered papist detected
>>
I know you're all johan r/paradoxplaza shills now but can someone tell me where i can find 3.04 patch for Vic2? I've searched all over the internet.
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>tfw you get the Encomienda 100% + production on a gold producing province
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>>162454519
And of course there's the big ones. John, Luke, Mark that keep contradicting each other.

>Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot...Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed...
(from Luke)
>And after the sup Satan entered into him...
(from John)

And when the Women were watching the Son, Mark, Matthew and Luke claim they were standing far away, but John says they were close by.
>And the women that followed him from Galilee, stood afar off, beholding these things
>Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene

And here, again all of them but John claim Jesus begged the Father to save him from the cross, but in John he decides to not ask.
>And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him. And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt
>Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour

The other three have this line:
>But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation

But John and Titus both say no, you will always be forgiven, no doubts about it:
>If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness

Peter claims God wishes everyone to be saved:
>The Lord is... not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance
But John claims that God wants some particulars to go to hell:
>He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them

>>162454812
But that's not what the Bible says. If you just say it's 'abstract' then the entire damn bible is abstract.
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>>162455075
>>162409274
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>>162455075
>I've searched all over the internet.
>can't find free patch that's easily available
>can't search the fucking thread
You are a retard and you searched for shit.
>>
>>162455075
victoria2wiki.com/V2_3_04_patch.zip
But looks like if you pirate the game some mods like HPM get fucked up
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>>162455313
thanks
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>>162455427
Only if you don't know how to pirate the game in the first place.
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>>162455525
How? Please teach me sensei.
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>>162455596
>download game
>install game
>download patch
>install patch
>download HPM
>install HPM
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>>162455231
God never gets angry according to Isaiah.
>Fury is not in me.
But in Jeremaih he explicitly says he will get angry.
>And I myself will fight against you with an outstretched hand and with a strong arm, even in anger, and in fury, and in great wrath

God should be feared according to most of the Bible:
>Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God

but John again stands out in claiming:
>God is Love...There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love...

God creates evil in Kings and Lamentations:
>Behold, this evil is of the Lord...
>Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?

But Psalms says he has no evil at all.
>For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee...

Numbers and Hebrews both claim God cannot and will not ever lie:
>God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent.
>It was impossible for God to lie.

Yet Kings and Jeremiah both say explicitly they have been fooled.
>Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee...
>O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived...

etc. etc.
There really is a huge amount of contradictions in the Bible. It's a great read and has some nice life lessons but simply doesn't work as a consistent setting.
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>>162455231
Very few people are Biblical literalists

Now fuck off
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>>162455596
Check the fucking checksum. The game literally tells you if there's something wrong.
>>
>>162455860
>get black flags of France, USA and other countries
And I haven't played yet, so I don't know about other broken things
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>>162454286
And I would prefer you be imprisoned

>publicly supporting a religion created by a psychopathic pedo
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>>162455969
Hey boy, you asked for contradictions, I gave you them. Piss off.
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>>162456127
Then you installed them wrong, because I've already done everything I said and got the game perfectly working.
You probably just didn't delete cache/documents vicky file
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Are anarchy liberals good for anything?
>>
Is it possible to get more accepted cultures as the Ottoman Empire in HPM? I just want the Greeks and Serbs to be my friends.
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>>162456345
yeah, for soylent green
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>>162456127
Also, I posted this some threads ago, it should be a pirated vicky 3.04 working fine with the intended checksum

https://mega.nz/#!exMGUQAJ!D-ziwMfaHdtSnhMRmq7UGVpDmhvPwtnW68aAGtfXlRQ
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someone host a MP game

>inb4 do it yourself
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>>162456639
i'm going to at 2 est
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Wew. A simple war between Germany and Britain over Helgioland has escalated into Great War status
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>>162456639
I'm waiting for the lad that hosted last night's HPM
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>>162456553

I mean, policy wise.
Why do they exist?
To weaken liberals?
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>>162456707
>eastern summer time

fucking americucks what's that in gmt
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>>162456718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCEUZ4rFiac
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>>162456929
add 5 hours, europoor
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>>162456193
Not him, but he sums it up nicely. None of these "contradictions" are really contradictions at all, just nitpicking with the phrasing of whatever translations you're using. Needless to say, the idioms of a 2000 year old book written in greek and aramaic don't always translate well to English.

And the Bible is full of parables, doofus.
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>>162457407
But they literally are contradictions. If you don't take it as literal, then you end up with what I said - a fun book of nice life lessons and entertaining stories that can't be taken as serious fact.
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Indonesia only has cores on Java and Sumatra what the fuck I just killed so many swampniggers for it
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>>162457590
As I already said, there are a lot of linguistic nuances that are lost in translation. Just like you went to biblecontradictions.org or whatever to find them, you can easily look up the clarified message.
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>>162457590
>taking the bible seriously
>ever

The only ones that do are people that
a) are mad
b) didn't read it
c) study it and are mad
d) study it and became blind ''by faith''
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>>162457846
>faith
Is a pretty big part of religion yeah...

>>162457843
No matter how you finagle with nuances the fact sort of fucking remains that Genesis has two different accounts, that there are different sources for the bible, and that John for some reason likes to disagree with Mark, Matthew and Luke as a daily routine or something.
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>>162458062
http://www.biblicalcatholic.com/apologetics/bible.htm

Here ya go. 10 seconds on google

P.S. thanks catholics
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>>162458062
That's what it boils down to.

It doesn't matter if there are contradictions, if the Pope is right, if Jesus even existed.

Do you take off all your mind from yourself and pledge it to something 'greater'?


I don't. I prefer to honour my ancestors, who were fucked over because of the greed of those who wanted to consolidate power when Christianity came. I honour them and honour our land. That's my 'faith'.
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>>162456529
>>162456529

pls lads
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Host HPM multiplayer somebody
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>>162458346
>off topic
>natural derail
Epic. Why don't you report someone like R&I for making threads early instead?

>>162458247
Most of that shit doesn't make any sense.
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>>162458471
>>162456707
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>>162458548
Because R&I is based and you're not
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>>162456929
How hard is it to use a time converter online?
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So, is this too gross?
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Crusader Kings 2
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>>162458832
not gross enough t.bh
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>>162458338
I don't play HPM, but this doesn't sound like something you can do as the Ottomans.

But here's a guide on how you can do it.
>Step 1: Annex Greece, infamy be damned

>Step 2: Accrue as much infamy as possible

>Step 3: Delete your entire army

>Step 4: Release and play as Greece

>Step 5: Take the Magali Decision or whatever it's called

>Step 6: Join in on the Ottoman gangbang

>Step 7: Form Byzantium

>Step 8: Finish mopping up the Ottomans

And there's your accepted cultures.
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>>162458779
>>162458779
>>162458779
>>162458779
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>>162458832
>grobbing to spain
>not grobbing to rhineland
4/10
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>>162458938
>page 2
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>>162458938
Look at this shit.
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>>162458832
Release your basque states, conquer the left bank of the Rhein, conquer all of Catalonia, conquer Pièmont.
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>>162458938
>makes first post before linking it to the old thread
you will never be this autistic
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>>162430760
Start a build up, and start taking over other small island nations.
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>>162456718
>Wew. A simple war between Austria-Hungary and Serbia escalated into Great War status
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>>162441637
>Чтo ?
>Чтo ?
>gets shot
I legit feel bad for Nicky
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>>162456556
Checksum is different, but flags are still black. Guess I need to reinstall windows.

Is PSGK the checksum for MP game you have here? I would like to join.
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Is there anything grosser than this meme?
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>>162462713
>French Arab Union
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>>162462713
You misspelled "Grober."
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>>162458938
>1 gazillion "X Ys early" memes early
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>>162428767
What mod?
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The fuckers lost the crisis of egypt
how often does this happen?
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