/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

>>158668339
Based

>>158668339
Based

>>158668339
Based

>>158668339
White

>>158668339
Literally the worst shitposter of them all

>>158668407
Amount of reserves depends entirely on how many units you have available.
You might wanna garrison the border with 3-4 units so if you have full 5 unit corps then leave 2 on the back ready to respond to places that look weak. If you don't have that many units then you must instead of using reserves just abandon/partially abandon the province while you regain organization. This is the style you will have to use with Russia, falling back to the next defense position and then the next and then the next until the enemy is too overextended to fight.

Doctrines are super important here since they give big bonuses to organization.

AI is up to you, use as much as you see fit. Obviously the optimal strategy is to run at speed 1 and pause regularly and manually control all units but that's probably not desirable. On the other end is automating all units at theather level and using max speed which requires least attention but gives worst results. There is a happy medium in there. For example with France you might want to automate your navy and maybe the border against Italy and focus your attention on the air force and the norther border.

About the troops, remember that each unit you produce is cheaper and faster to produce than the one before it. This means that what ever comps you choose you should stick with them because twice as big of an army of one or two basic types will beat an army that has every possible unit mixed in. That being said there is a time and place for tanks and specialist divisions but build them with purpose.

Also if you ever use tanks get the tank doctrine that reduces their combat widt by 1, it's the best doctrine in the game.

>>158668339
based

>>158668339
Based

>>158669104
>>158669050
>>158668902
>>158668847
>>158668731
>>158668724
>>158668339


All me

t.bobbins

>>158669218
Prove it

>>158668339
>there's a real person out there who has dedicated over 2 years of this life making the exact same first post in nearly every /gsg/ thread

>>158669438
>there's a real person out there who has dedicated over 2 years of this life making the exact same reply to the first post in nearly every /gsg/ thread

>>158668339
Based

>>158669438
Not based

>>158669104
Not him but I hate how you need to put pretty much an entire corps on every province in Europe, completely defeats the entire point of the OoB system,

>>158668339
BASED

>>158668339
Based

>15 posts
>literally only one about the games

Holy shit mates, does Paradox really suck that bad?

>>158668339
based

>>158668339
South Brazilian and therefore white

>>158669750
it's not paradoxes fault everyone besides me and
>>158669673
are shitposters

>>158668339
Based

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>>158668339
>this kills the thread

>>158669104
>About the troops, remember that each unit you produce is cheaper and faster to produce than the one before it. This means that what ever comps you choose you should stick with them...
I think this is also where I fuck up. So should I just set a run of like 20 grunt infantry units with 4xINF and 1xART as my bread and butter? (and I guess AT too)


Because at the start of the game I did a serial run of like 8 units and by the time I was done with that I started making tanks and mot divisions which isn't advised from what you're saying.

>all this good advice on /gsg/
Thanks man.

I'm gonna restart with this info and post back.

>>158669673
>you need to put pretty much an entire corps on every province in Europe,
I know what you mean. I see borders with entire corps on them and I'm just like "well this is fucking stupid". This is especially true with the eastern front. It's doomstack vs doomstack.

>>158669819
>recognizing the basedness of the based one
>shitposting
shitposter

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Lads, should I go gommie for full memes?

>>158669989
exactly you should pick a mass produced combo and just have that on repeat till basically infinity. Every time one completes the next one is cheaper and takes less time. And what I mean by this say infantry takes 10 IC/month and 10 months, the next one might be 9 IC/month and 9 months and the repeat after that 8 IC/month and 8 months. You can see how it starts to make a huge difference since not only you get "more" IC to spend right now on other stuff but your stuff also takes less time to make. Numbers I pulled out of my ass obviously but you can see the modifiers in game if you are interested.

Against germans you want some hard attack too so have individual AT regiments in training too which you can attach here and there.

>>158670034
I complimented him on his basedness too if you didn't notice. Might have gotten lost on all the other contributing stuff.

>>158669989
>I think this is also where I fuck up. So should I just set a run of like 20 grunt infantry units with 4xINF and 1xART as my bread and butter? (and I guess AT too)
I only know DH so you'll need advice from him if this is the case in HoI3, but if you do that in DH you get a gearing bonus, which means this is optimal.

>>158670230
>Lads, should I go gommie
uhhh wait a sec let me look it up
nope

>>158670445
>exactly you should pick a mass produced combo and just have that on repeat till basically infinity. Every time one completes the next one is cheaper and takes less time. And what I mean by this say infantry takes 10 IC/month and 10 months, the next one might be 9 IC/month and 9 months and the repeat after that 8 IC/month and 8 months. You can see how it starts to make a huge difference since not only you get "more" IC to spend right now on other stuff but your stuff also takes less time to make. Numbers I pulled out of my ass obviously but you can see the modifiers in game if you are interested.
Is this only when producing serially or does it work that way for parralel you produce after the first one's done?

>>158670597
any production takes the current practicals when ti starts producing so if you complete units mid way it doesn't shorten the production of the rest but it will apply to all new units you schedule.

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>>158668329
>1628 – French Wars of Religion: The Siege of La Rochelle, which had lasted for 14 months, ends with the surrender of the Huguenots.
BASED

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>>158670584
The memes were too powerful, lad.

>>158671384
blob like crazy now

>>158668339
*sweats profusely* r-r-r&I-chan, you want to do things with me?

Baka, I mean play g-grand strategy gamus.

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>today I'm going to play a non blobby game of Eu4 as mamlukes
>hm, ottomans are kinda scary, I better secure Anatolia
>hm, I need Constantinople to dominate this trade node
>I kinda want some of that ethiopian coffee
>Oh I only need Iraq now to form Arabia
>mfw zooming out and seeing this ridiculous blob

>>158671895
Going tall is interesting.
I once played an entire game of EU4 as Frankfurt, without getting ANY provinces. I force-vassalized and fed other countries, mainly Mainz, Hesse and Trier. By the end my 'empire' had about 20 provinces and Frankfurt itself was at 110 development but at that point it was about 600 to increase further.

Most boring 7 hours of my life

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>>158672315
Manpower issues aside tall OPMs were really strong in EU3

>>158670916
Greatest leader of France. All downhill from him. Obvious exception is Napoleon

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Just wanna ask how do you have fun in your games in ck 2? Like obviously you set out to get a kingdom but what's next? This is me asking who hasn't seen thru the end year for ck2. Also how do you have fun in a multiplayer environment? Just got my chums to give ck2 a try, obviously they were overwhelmed, they promised me they'd try learning it though.

Which European nation should I play as in EUIV?

>>158673176
Ottomans

>>158672917
Rising to power is the most fun part, once you have a solid powerbase (your own kingdom) then just fight a bunch of massive wars I suppose. Some people like to spread their dynasty a lot or sponsor holy orders to make them grow. Go for hard battles like toppling the entire HRE/Byzantines by yourself as a minor kingdom.

>>158673242
No. Name a REAL European nation.

>>158673176
French vassal

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I want to try Darkest Hour, is it hard? I can play HoI3 on the basic level.

>>158672917
trying to survive the assasination attempts of your brothers, their invasions and the muslim holy wars as a spanish kingdom and eventually forming iberia is as fun as ck2 can get.

>>158673403
Granada

>>158673461
shouldnt be too hard, especially since you could get the grasp of hoi3. dh is arguably the best hoi game.

>this pic
what the fuck

>>158673461
It's not that hard. IMO it's the most fun hoi game. Has so many good mods (not just KR). THere's even a fallout mod

>>158673619
>Sultan
Fuck off.
I'm getting tired of your shitposting.

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Post /gsg/ related music desu lads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMNXWid9fnI&index=2&list=PLE5MKrxWq0J5R64j0Ix2aq7IERp6Sq6WO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KtoKsT6fLI&list=PLE5MKrxWq0J5R64j0Ix2aq7IERp6Sq6WO&index=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNfvJc99YY&index=5&list=PLE5MKrxWq0J5R64j0Ix2aq7IERp6Sq6WO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MG27BKwjaI&list=PLE5MKrxWq0J5R64j0Ix2aq7IERp6Sq6WO&index=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tW0QqiT2LU&index=6&list=PLE5MKrxWq0J5R64j0Ix2aq7IERp6Sq6WO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPzTGx96P6U

>>158673176
golden horde

>>158673713
I'm giving you quality European nations, it's not my fault you are a degenerate.

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>italy have 200+ brigades without mobilising
okay
>austria-hungary, a nation they have just been at war with grant them military access
okay
>they're up to date on all techs too
just about done lads

>>158673176
albania

just kiddingbosnia

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>>158673990
>pic related
>>158674249
Finally, a good suggestion.

>>158674184
>1904
>1.8M pops
>30 brigades
your fault

>>158674372
>he expects me to NOT genocide bosnians

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should i play as ivar or halfdan?

Do you guys ever give king titles to your vassals?

I'm starting to think I've made a mistakle

Nice, Discord is raiding us
fuck you memesupreme

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>>158674184
Well, Yugoslavia probably died in the process but at least we will always remember Udine.

>>158674620
how bout u play muh dick white boi?

>tfw you were one of the main people hounding rob and his steamgroup off /gsg/
>tfw you wish he was back so you could play vicky multiplayer

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Quick question about HPM.

Is is still possible to straight camp as Sardinia-Piedmont to form Italy quickly?

>>158674968
>+64 warscore
>"waaaaaaaaaah i am looooosing"
what the fuck is wrong with you

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Riddle me this.

I've married the Queen of Georgia who has an elective monarchy, had a kid with her, but yet my son has no claim whatsoever to possibly usurp the entire kingdom.

Does the Queen have to die first for her claims to pass on to my kid or am I just screwed because lol elective monarchy?

>>158675032
Join the discord :)

>>158674979
snowniggers arent white dumb nignog

>>158675035
no

>>158675203
link please

>>158675114
Literally all of Yugo is occupied, that was the last stand.

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Bored as fuck might as well boot up some HOI4

MFW
>Play murica
>Turn fascist
>Few year in france join the commintern
>Prepare plan to invade cuba, mexico and establish some advanced base in the pacific to deal with the nips
>Mid 1939 I start invading cuba
> Germany instantly declar war on Luxembourg ( and luxembourg ONLY )
> luxembourg prompty join the ally
> Just as I force the cuban into capitulation a popup appear telling me they joined the ally
> Somehow I'm at the negociating table with the whole axis on my side though I never joined them
> Germany has more score than me due to bombing the shit out of luxembourg
> They puppet Cuba
> I can't get shit

Thx HOI4.

>>158675185
Claims only get passed when parents die

>>158675286
Be glad that you helped your superiors.

>>158675262
I can't give out invites, sorry :(

>>158675286
the best part about hoi4 is that you dont even need to buy it/pirate it. you can just imagine that you are playing it. if you keep it realistic, it's 100% the same.
>be germany
>draw 1 line across poland and 1 line across france
>go for civilian industry and civilian industry tech
>convert to military mid-1938
>spam infantry, build some panzers for flavor
>press "execute plan"
>annex them both
>draw 1 line across ussr
>have your soldiers do pushups
>invade at spring
>annex them by the end of the summer

this is exactly how it's going to be, i don't even need to bother.

>>158675504
Why not?

>>158675740
The best part about HoI4 is you can uninstall it and get a refund.

>play an ironman game for ~12 hours
>its going pretty great, accomplished the majority of my goals
>~100 in-game years left
>decide to end for the evening and continue tomorrow
>next day turn on the game
>afraid I'll screw up my progress, decide to pause for a while and play it again later when I'm more mentally prepared for it
>two weeks pass, anxiety only grows stronger
>still can't continue the game
>start a new game instead since if I screw that one up it won't be a big deal since I'm not emotionally invested in it
is this normal
does it happen to other people too

>>158675742
Closed community, they don't want radical yugokids and other shitposters so only admins can send invites.

>>158676414
ask an admin for a link pls

>>158676245
depends what game because if it's eu4 you're fucking retarded.

>>158673641
>>158673703
Anything I should know?

>>158675185
>your wife has seduction focus

you are screwed no matter what, chances are that isn't even your kid, cuck

>>158673856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE

I like to listen to it when I'm playing as Neo-Babylon in rob's cyber victoria mod.

>>158668329
Since there's Sengoku Rance mentioned in the OP, I guess it's OK to ask this here too:

What's the "best" offensive skill in Romance of the Three Kingdoms IX?

I'm not sure exactly if I understand how the top tier ones work.

>Puissance =
works the same as all other "Divine" skills, except they're all rolled into one (so if you're using spears, it's the same as having Divine Spears, if your officer is in a Siege Troop then Puissance works as Divine Forge, etc.)
>&
this means that whenever you use a [Tactic] attack, it is a critical hit => so even if you have a troop of 1 Spearman, and your officer has 1/1/1/1/1 skills, this one spearmen can permastun a 10,000 army of Lu Bu as long as you have Will for Tactics.

Is that correct?

Is there anywhere explained what "critical hits" do for each tactics by the way? Because the only thing I know about really is that Spearman Rush confuses on a critical hit. Are critical hits from Divine skills still affected by your WAR / ATK etc?

>God's Command / Flying General =
these are merely skills, so unlike Divine* stuff they only work when you have a higher WAR (or specifically ATK) rating than the enemy, so Guan Yu cannot actually permastun Lu Bu (because Lu Bu's WAR is 100) with Spear Rush whereas even a 1 man troop with Divine Spear/Divine Right/Puissance could. So, in general "vs weak unit" -> always applies X when used against a unit with less overall ATK (so a wounded Lu Bu can be affected by God's Command even though he has higher WAR)?

The tradeoff compared to Puissance being that GC not only works with Tactics but also with land regular attack (it's also Exterminate) and Flying General is also Fleetness.

And one more question then would be

how does Stampede (Cavalry tactics attacks cause confuse "vs weak unit") interact with:
a) Divine Cavalry / Puissance?
b) God's Command / Flying General?

I'm fairly certain that Stampede will always trigger whenever b) triggers as well.

>>158676481
I have played HoI2, EU3, EU4, Vicky 2, and CK2 for several hundred hours each and EU4 is by far the most challenging game for me. Vicky 2 is trivially easy. I'll never understand you people and your memes, how many of you actually play these games?

>>158677020
>play meme game get memed on

did anyone else unironically get a virus from these shit ads without even clicking them

>>158677017
But if a) triggers always on tactics, no matter what, does that mean that Stampede also always triggers no matter what? (So you can permanently confuse with Cavalry too)..

And finally, one more cavalry related issue:

It is said that the "White Riders" enabled Horsebows are stronger / get stronger once you actually research Horsebows. Is that true? How?
Furthermore, is there any difference between the Attack power of a Cavalry unit using the Horsebows ranged attack and the same cavalry unit NOT using its ranged attack (which they do automatically for some reason - even if you have Horsebows, they will still use melee if you Attack from meelee range - sounds to me like it would be preferably to choose ranged attack even from melee range just like regular Crossbow units can do)?

>>158677354
Sometimes I think I have a virus but its just some websites acting weird. Like there are a few translated book sites that constantly have pop up tabs or those antivirus ads that happen everywhere when you get a virus.

>>158675035
Yeah you can usually form it around 1860 if you play your cards right just straight durdling

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Can anyone comment on this mod? Been itching for cold war stuff since EvW, so I was wondering if it's decent.

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/new-world-order-2.561583/

>>158668339
Delete this

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>>158673461
Why doesn't my game look like this? Do I need a mod?

>>158668339
Epic, simply epic.

Hi, /gsg/
An anon from an another board told me that for having EU4,I should download 7-zip and then download the link given by /gsg/ and unzip it.

First, is it true ?
Second, when I'm on cs.rin should I download all the files under ''download:'' or click on .sfv ?

Where's HPM? When's the last time he posted? I have a very important question for him

>>158678829
In the settings turn nato counters on and sprites off

>>158675035
if you really micromanage you can form Italy by 1851 usually

course that's heavily dependent on luck, and that's the "legit" way I found. You can form it by getting any rebels to take over any of the Italian minors, so its probably possible by 1840

>>158679189
Oh thanks

>>158674968
That's a lot of dead macaronis

>>158676414
https://discord.gg/dYH6qbH

6 joins possible.

>>158679441
t.memesupreme

>>158679591
Go shitpost about Dota or something Gage

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>>158679264
Yeah ive done it by 1851, but I cant tell if the straight camping trick works with HPM. ive done it on vanilla

>>158679863
I don't understand, they got a coalition from conquering baden and ulm?

>>158673461
>>158678829

Don't bother with "vanilla" DH and get the Kaiserreich mod. Don't get me wrong, I love DH even without mods but its just a clunkier less complex version of HoI3. The point about HoI2/DH was its modability (and better event mechanics compared to HoI3) and with Kaiserreich you have a complete new and fresh experience compared to the same old WW2 scenarios in vanilla DH and HoI3.

>>158679639
Good meme @memesupreme

>>158680314
Yeah it's funny because usually the AI isn't stupid enough to do that

>love the early modern period
>EU4 is meme tier
>EU3 is too clunky

What do I do?

I forget how fast those threads go...

>>158679843
>What you've said makes the fact that rulers give different values for different stats partially obsolete.
Kinda - it effectively allows you to focus 16 mana each month instead of 2. Considering a monarch generates 0-18 mana per year, there's a huge effect on resource management.

However... I always found the mana system poorly implemented. The idea is interesting, but the implementation is crap - you'll always end overflowing with MIL and starved of ADM, sometimes DIP; this scarcity alone makes certain mechanics like culture conversion obsolete, and people only use development on the beginning (to spread certain institutions faster).

If anything, maybe limiting it to 50/year?

>>158681740
>Modern period
>EU

>>158682146
Not him, but the game encompasses the Modern Age (Fall of Byz - French Rev).

>tfw just fapped to marrying my daughter to a nigger
At least he was christian so it's kinda ok, I g-guess...

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How do you guys usually distribute lands and titles in CK2?

Do you give a out a whole duchy or do you fill it with counts?

Do you give kingdom titles to your vassals?

Also, are there any benefits for giving titles to your priests?

>>158682146
>not knowing historical periods

oy vey

>>158682574
Please tell me this girl has nudes.

>>158679061
Any help?

>>158682574
NEVER give titles to priests. It depends, if you can get away with it make your realm as decentralized as possible. Less hierarchy = more taxes and levies going to you. Although decentralization can lead to instability.

>>158682637
>(((oy vey)))
((( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHgxOXEQaFU )))

>>158683038
((( ((())) )))

>>158683108
//O\\
(·)(·)
) . (
( V )

>>158683038
music of my (((people)))

>>158679061
everything under download

>>158682964
Some raiders mass reported our megaupload. Go to http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume. You'll have to figure it out yourself like everyone else though, it's not too difficult desu if you really get stuck though post here again. Don't forget to never buy any content from paradox because they are the pinnical of corporate capitalism.

P.S.S. Don't play the game without all the DLC, it's horrible without it.

>>158682992
Why not give titles to priests?

>>158683259
8=====D~~~~

>>158673856
this desu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8alD4uGj6rQ

>>158683259
>>158683496
reminder this is a blue board

>>158683451
Not the same anon, but is there the chance you upload Linux content? Specifically, I'd love the patches beyond 1.17.

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HPM, I know you like to pretend you're not lurking until post 700 so you only have to deal with 50 posts of autistic requests but I have a unique problem that will help others in future if fixed.

I puppeted Bulgaria, through war, but now can not ask them to join or demand they join because I both have a truce with them and don't own all of their cores. Pls fix.

>>158668339
Eric, simply eric.

>>158684078
Just accept it lad he's gone for good

>>158684078
Just use changeowner

>>158684075
I don't do anything personally that's just the standard gimme free games link. A good solution though would be to not use Linux and buy a computer where everything isn't 5x more complicated than it needs to be.

If you ask the question for long enough I'm sure you'll get an answer though just don't be obnoxious about it or you won't get an answer. It could honestly take weeks just because of how niche linux autism is.

>>158684735
>cheating
May as well use event 800813 whilst I'm at it, laddo.

>>158683448
>>158683451
Thanks for these.

Okay, I finish the downloading and I don't find Unzip, should I click on extract ?

>>158684953
It's not like your playthrough is anything other than a generic blob Radical Yugoslavium desu

how can i get the last 2 eu4 expansions? I haven't pirated anything but anime in my life and I don't know how i'd install it anyway without them detecting it because I connected my paradox account to steam so they know now

>>158684978
screenshot please

>>158684978
>>158685295
Just to clarify you have to pirate a new copy of the paradox game you want. You can't put pirated dlc into a steam version of a game because they have a detector now.

>>158685295
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume
Go to this link and figure it the fuck out like everyone else.

>>158685658
fucks sake for real?

>>158685658
no they don't

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>>158685459

Why is communism so good in Victoria 2?

>>158686175
extract files tard

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So is HoI IV worth picking up?

>Love the era
>Disliked HoI 3, loved 2

>>158685658
why the fuck do I have to download a full fucking game at xxx.1 when the game is at xxx.4 now

I thought you hackers knew what you were doing?

>>158685959
yes

>>158686092
Yes they did

>>158686175
I have no idea what I'm looking at. I'm sure given like half an hour or so you'll figure it out though.

>>158686318
HoI4 is literally "I am too lazy to play the game so everything plays for me" the GSG.

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I should really stop visiting that place.

>>158686256
What I do next ?

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>>158686784
xD

Fuck off redditor

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It took almost a hundred years and a lot of relocation of the local Greek population, but the crusaders of the Latin Empire and the descendants of the 4th Crusade will finally reach their objective of Jerusalem!

>>158687895
actually
i am BIGBENISINMYANUS

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Why is my projected daily balance be so low when I'm making so much money?

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>>158688450
>0 industry
>31 military
>17/25
>27/40
>5 Paper mana
>only 6.47 infamy
>not using full taxes plus tariffs

>>158688450
>1978 national stockpile
are you building something right? this just shows the total cost of what you are trying to buy, it doesn't reflect your actual budget.

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>>158688258

>tfw slaughtering the Saracen scum with your son holding your flank

>>158688450
stop giving supplies to your troops and ships unless you're going to war.
are you trying to build factories?

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Heh, it's not gonna spread to me. R-Right guys?

>>158689237
god DAMN your game looks sexy

how is everything not blurry/pixelated?

>>158689237
What mods?

>>158689237
it sweeps pretty much everything.

In my latest game pretty sure it got everything else besides India and Iceland

>>158689237
>>158689827

I'm playing HIP + Theatrum Orbis Terrarum

HIP link
http://hip.zijistark.com/releases/HIP_-_RD_-_2016-09-06.7z

Map mod link
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=580608756

what do luxury resources do
are dupes useful at all?

Anyone got something interesting to try on HOIV? I've played as Germany, Commy France, and Greece.

>>158668339
we did it, reddit!

How would I exclude the Aztecs from converting when losing a holy war?

>>158686479
I extracted the files so what I do next ?

>>158691016
So could I just throw
> NOT = { religion = aztec }
into the decision or is that wrong?

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wew, the emperor moved his capital to toulouse.

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>sire a cockroach

what do?

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P-Please no

>>158691206
I don't have the slightest clue, figure it out

>playing eu3 for the first time
>Milan
>get claim on Genoa randomly
>vassalize them and liege
>PU sicily
>Kicking Golden Hordes ass
What was so hard about this again? What do i do after this because Im just back to blobbing. Is the whole EU4 is bad thing just a meme? Cause Im spending dip mana to become emperor, got 5 electors behind me.

>>158685658
>You can't put pirated dlc into a steam version of a game because they have a detector now.

Then it's pretty shitty because I have been using pirated DLC for ages.

>>158691456
Denounce. Hopefully you'll kill him in one of your crusades.

>>158691550
>start as a strong country
>game is easy

>>158691676
>strong country
I started mid tier because if you start small there is no hope.

mmm cement

>>158691871
>if you start small there is no hope
wrong

>>158692049
I started as Corsica in y first game (this is my second) and within a year Genoa annexed me. Naples ignored the alliance.

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>>158691459
1/5 of my vassals have died. I worked so hard to get my realm where it was. Literally every provence had at least level 2 prosperity. My balance used to be 260 gold per year now it's only 37. This is so fucked.

>>158692153
>losing despite the enemy having the naval landing combat penalty

0-4 Byzantine duke, reconquer pannonia

5-9 Nomad magyars, blob all over europe

Here I go, lads.

>>158692363
I had 3 troops vs their 7 so... Not really a contest, I won a 4v4 against Genoa as Milan.

>>158692337
On the upside, everybody is struggling.

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Can I get some help on where to go from here in CK2?

So I started as a Duke in HRE. I want to form the German Kingdom so I need independence.

I have about 10 holdings directly under me, all Duchy and Countys.

Anyways, I need a high stewardship for that, and im having all those holdings because I figured it would be the best for a big army.

But everytime I die, it gets split up rather badly across my family, hurting my big army, and I cant EVER seem to get enough plot power to kill my inheriting family members.

So what do I do from here? My army makes up about 50% of the entire HRE, and I want independence as I have enough holdings for a Kingdom, but WHAT do I do?

I feel like im kinda just stuck.

I also cant expand because no one wants to lower crown rule so I cant go after other HRE dukes right now.

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>look at son
>homo
>no leg
>no hand
>paranoid as fuck

poor lad

Hey guys

I have all DLCs for CKII until 18/07/205

Was there any other released after that date?

>>158693352
He sounds like hes great at parties

>>158693181
Take a look at your succession laws, gavelkind just sucks.

And you can try forming an independence faction then bribe other dukes to join you.

>>158693374
The Reaper's Due is the latest DLC, released on Steam August 25th 2016.

>>158693181
You're using gavelkind succession, giving you a 30% bigger demense and removing the prestige penalty (-0.800 per son) for having unlanded sons but upon ruler death your holdings get split evenly between all eligible sons.

It's shit, switch to primigeniture or elective ASAP.

>>158693680
but in what game

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How the hell am I supposed to deal with this
>Seljuks - 75k
>Fatimids - 67k
>Mongorians - 77k

>HRE - 52k
>Byzzies - 45k
>Ruskies - 36k

Seljuks just hunkered down this entire game, hardly even relevant

Fatimids were pretty fluid actually

Mongols rolled in, reached this point, then converted to Islam and only ever had 3 wars against the Byzzies, but still have 50k event troops.

I've tried the EUIV for the first time since two major DLCs or so, and I noticed that it's kinda random who the attacker or defender in battle is. Is this intended, or am I getting memed on?

>>158694272
Muzzies get extra vassal levies for whatever reason.

>>158694272
Blob harder before they spawn or make sure your entire demense is booming (60% faster levy replenishment helps a lot) and do whatever you can to weaken the Mongols before they hit you. This means joining the wars of anyone they declare against, rushing in with all your troops to dent their numbers, wait for your demense to replenish and repeat.

Also, the invasion events are fucking retarded and broken because Paradox can't balance their games at all.

>>158693680
Really gets the brain cells rolling

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CommieNazis

england's unit's in eu4 have that strange line into infinity coming from their helmets

how do i fix

>>158694530
I'm fine with the initial landing in this particular game, they actually made me worry a little bit.
It was when they converted, and then 155+ years later still have over half of their event troops. They have taken no significant amount of land since they've done that, just joined any war the Byzzies enter into.
Didn't the event troops despawn in an earlier version after some period of time?

>>158695127
I don't think they did, I remember people complaining about AI characters never entering factions against the Khan because the troop ratio is so freakishly skewed thanks to the event troops so I think they stay for good until destroyed.

>>158695389
If only it was like medieval 1, where the mongols just fuck off if their leader gets assassinated.

As a norse in HIP, should I go full HI or mix archers too?

>>158695389
Well what changed between the times of the Ilkhanate and golden horde and now?
It worked massively better there, so much so it actually aggravates me that they have done that.

>>158695592
Depends on if you can withstand the skirmish phase.
Against most Europeans you should do pretty well with just heavy infantry, but come Mongols, Byzzies, or Muzzies, you will have a drastically harder time.

>>158695636
Horse Lords? Changed the nomad mechanics and unit balance a whole lot, they used to be feudal but now have their own form of government which allows for ridiculous mobility and flexibility.

>>158695592
Get some archers, pretty sure the Norse HI tactic is bad, berserker rage lowers HI defense by a decent chunk IIRC

>>158695592

>>158695810
Just realised you said HIP, what I said might not be accurate.

>>158684868
>A good solution though would be to not use Linux and buy a computer where everything isn't 5x more complicated than it needs to be.
>buy a new computer
Your computer illiteracy is showing.

>>158693450
I dont have conclave so no favors.

>>158695881
But where do I check the tactics?

@158668339
Reported and ignored.

>>158696064
http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Combat_tactics

Not sure if they're told anywhere ingame.

>>158696105
Does HIP change the tactics too?

>>158691406
>Toulouse = /tu.luz/

Am I the only one who finds the French spelling stupid?

>>158696196
No idea, but it isn't unlikely that they have.

>>158696216
Yes

>>158696216
No more stupid that english. Just because it doesn't match how english pronounces things, doesn't mean it's any more stupid.

>>158696216
>ou after t and ou and l are pronounced the same
>e at the end of the word is soft just like in every other romance language
>pronunciation is consistent with pretty much every other language using our alphabet except English

French people sound like faggots but their language is a hundred times better than English.

>>158695881
It seems to have removed most of the interesting features of the mongol invasion.
Like how often do they reach Russia, or Baghdad, or hell, even Persia? And when's the last time anybody has seen the Timurids?

>>158696459
The expansion of India and Mongolia ruined it quite a big I imagine, too big of a risk of them running off into the wrong direction or running out of Steam instead of going for Persia and the Russians. There are even events from them sacking cities like Prague IIRC. I remember the Mongols being a nightmare back in the day.

>>158696310
Oh well, I'll try a balanced mix of archers, pikes and HI.

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>>158696459
>Like how often do they reach Russia, or Baghdad, or hell, even Persia?
The mongols caused such tremendous border gore across europe that there was a "Gujarati Carinthia" in my attempt to convert a game to ck2.
Also, here's another something from a game where the conversion didn't work.

>>158696310
I think that they do, and not by a little. The HIP tactics impact way more units than the vanilla, and the values are different.

>>158696346
>>158696430
I'm not comparing it with English, though. French spelling rules are just stupid, English are beyond retard. It's almost like a bunch of rotten cabbage niggers crossbred with potato niggers trying to mask their heritage and scream "I AM NOT SOME ANIMAL WHO RAIDED THIS ISLAND! I AM WHITE AND ROMAN!".

And French spelling is still stupid.

>>158696616
I started playing when Old Gods was still sort of new, and it was really good back then. They made it interesting. Golden Horde would show up, roll all the way to poland, the Ilkhanate would show up and take Persia at the very LEAST. Then they would succumb to infighting and rebellions, and life would carry on with things turned on their heads.

>>158696781
It's supposed to be chaos and border gore though. Not in the screenshot's sense, the Mongols are supposed to fall apart.

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we did it lads. we finally reclaimed jerusalem. rum and egyptians have like nearly 60k troops between them, but christian lives saved the day.

>>158696430
>e at the end of the word is soft just like in every other romance language
No, it isn't. It's strongly pronounced both in Spanish and Italian... and removed from the spelling in Romanian and Venetian.

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>my 50k mamluk stack lost to an ottoman 26k stack
>while I am 2 miltech ahead
>it was flat terrain and I triple the cav ottomans had
>I had a better general
>my units retreat to province literally next to the ottomans with no way to escape and get stack wiped 2 days before end of month (morale replenishment)
>they then get permission from their rival Poland (my ally) to walk around the strait, getting permission from 4 more countries to siege my Trebizond
>water shortage, water shortage, surrender
>my ruler dies of what must be pure shame a few weeks later
>meanwhile, my 15k vassal and 30k Hungary are in Italy, sieging ferrara
That's enough eu4 for me

>>158697017
I suppose you're right, from what I can remember back in the day they used to fall apart really fast (depending how many assassinations the player was involved in) or blob consistently (typically all of Russia and some of Poland) before falling apart.

I think what changed it is the new nomadic system - back in the day they just spammed the invasion CB which made them gobble kingdom after kingdom in one piece while leaving the non-Mongol vassals intact so they could rebel later, but now they're limited by things like population and the new nomad CBs so they only chop at some duchies here and there.

>>158697382
>south african
Why?

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r8

>>158697505
Kebab cannot be stopped.

>>158697521
It's disappointing and it takes a lot of the fun out of it.
If I disable Horse Lords will it go back or are there any mods that fix it?

>>158697643
How many tries did it take?

>>158697643
>1455
Strategy?

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hey how do i get rid of over extension

>>158697017
>the Mongols are supposed to fall apart.
They do fall apart but the issue is that they fall apart in really nonsensical ways, they lose counties scattered all over the place instead of losing large connected areas at once.

>>158697735
Disabling horse lords will make them tribal and not feudal as they used to be, the old CBs they used were tied to their culture AFAIK, I think that disabling horse lords will just turn them into blobbing tribals instead, with extra spicy gavelkind memes.

I don't know of any mods that fix it though.

>>158697807
Get a ruler with higher administration and stop blobbing so face, overextension is a result of a too high ratio of non-cored to cored provinces.

So to westernize I just wait and conquer stuff when I get the research bonus?

>>158697801
Ally with Bosnia and Hungary then go full apeshit on the Turks.

I can't enjoy victoria 2 without modding and cheating every single game to give the desired outcome anymore, what do I do /gsg/?

>>158698280
uninstall.exe

>>158698113
for vic2 hpm

>>158698231
Nice. Gonna try as soon as I finish my Florence game.

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J U S T

I see EU IV and CK 2 are on sale in Humble Store. I've never played a grand strategy game, just 4x games. Should I buy any of them? (without DLCs they cost 10 euros)

Should I pirate it and try it?

>>158697880
>extra spicy gavelkind memes
reminds me of this game I had today where the ruler of Äland had 7 fucking duchy, a demense of 8 to boot titles but no king title. Dude had 3-4 concubines for 30+ years, so you can imagine what happened to his borders

>>158698595
see
>>158683451

>>158698280
if it's singleplayer and you enjoy it just keep doing it while not posting your shitty cheating games here

>>158698646
I honestly wouldn't really mind gavelkind being forced on tribals and the lot if there was some sense to it, by letting you decide how the land was to be split up. If you have two sons and two duchies each with four counties, it'd be great if your heir would get to keep your primary duchy and the four holdings within while the other son gets the other half, but no, it has to be B0R3RG0R3 40R3V3R

>>158690301
You install HIP without Lindbrook's Textures, right?

>>158698431
The key is to focus on the ottoman lands in continental Europe, they will just sent troops over Constantinople without taking it. Once you manage to draw all the Ottomans into Europe, it's relatively easy for the combined forces of Hungary, Bosnia, and Byzantium to defeat the turk armies and then walk into turkey unchallenged.

>>158698657
I see. It looks I could spend those 10 euros buying the DLC of Stellaris, but the new combat system sucks. Now, instead of spamming BS, everybody spams corvettes and cruisers.

>>158698819
It depends if you want lindbrooks textures. I don't think that I did. Also you're lucky I'm autistic fag and lurk all day, that post is 2 hours old.

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Starting to get bored of this run.

Recommend me some unique CK II runs.

When do the vicky/DH fags come back? This general is trash when the redditors get in.

>>158698804
The stupid part is how all the fun stuff is the wrong play to play fucking tribals.
Take concubines? WRONG. More kids, more bordergore
Fuck some wenches? WRONG
Send your dude out to plunder? Woops he died, enjoy your new borders
Conquer huge swaths of land using your invasion cb? You lose it anyway because memekind

>>158698819
http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Historical_Immersion_Project#Lindbrooks_Texture_Map_.28LTM.29

Go check it out, I don't know if it fucks with the squeaky clean map mod I use. Try it out and if it doesn't work just rerun the HIP set up.

Someone said I should play as the Gommie Soviets in Kaiserreich so I will, I'll finish my USA AAR later if anyone was still paying attention to it.

The fucker who made the Kaiserreich Expanded Techtree mod changed the USA's colour to a shitty puke green, turned Japan from the GOAT yellow to shitty rust, and made the Princely Federation fucking Byzantine Purple. He also gave parts of Mittelafrika directly to Germany, defeating the whole point. Also his Yugoslavian flag is blue, red, and green for whatever fucking reason. 0/10 would not play baka.

>>158698997
Start viking, invade George, convert to Orthodox and buddy up with the Byzantines and play as a viking crusader state

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>>158698997
Start as a count/duke in the Baltic and form your own empire. It's really fun 2bh if you set yourself the right objectives.

>>158699035
More or less. Tribal gameplay is very fast-paced and fun but as you said the mechanics make it very limited and frustrating in the long run.

>>158699301
And the fucking buildings that require prestige to upgrade
reeeeee

>>158699358
you raid genoa, amalfi, and venice nonstop, limitless shekels and prestige

Are there any economic benefits to be gained from puppets when you are not a great power and are unable to easily sphere them?

>>158699439
It's all so tedious in the long run because you're just siphoning money and prestige into your hold you aren't allowed to have fun in

>>158699035
Tribals are extremely underpowered and nomads are overpowered.

They should really make a different kind of succession law for tribals.

Time for a Mameluke play through. Gonna fill my harem with white gurls and fuccbois.

>>158699358
I actually like that a lot about tribals, prestige is used as a second currency and it makes the war focus very useful for strong tribals, which makes sense.

>>158694954
OP as fuck. It really makes you think, how close the USSR actually was to joining the axis

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How much of Anatolia should be Pontic?

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>>158699790
>Turkish and Syrian are the same culture group

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>>158699790
all of it

>>158699790
>you can just "convert" vast swathes of land for "diplomacy power"
No game will ever compare to based Vicky for genocide.

>>158699790
Some bits in the north
Make a few provinces in the middle celtic because galatian memes
South is greek

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>AI is making Grosseafghanistaniums

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>och goborrah

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what should my goals by for this brave, historically glorious individual (and his dynasty)?

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I'm creating tributaries left and right but I'm not even close to the 8k mark, and creating all the titles will only result in 800 prestige.

>>158701028
King of Iberia and North Africa, expand his dynasty to France, Italy, and the Holy Land.

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Oh shit

how the fuck do I civilize as Vietnam?

>>158701179
Don't forget you need another 50 holdings in your kingdom. That's 40% more holdings, good luck.

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Decided to do a relaxing blobbing game.

Should I go coptic?

Also
>Castile gets Iberian wedding in 1448
>proceeds to lose to Granada

>>158701028
El Cid? Remove kebab

>>158701667
> go Coptic?

Yes

>>158701667
Yeah
also, what mod?

So did Paradox somehow manage to do right with the Reaper's Due or is it just another expansion that ruins everything?

This place is indistinguishable from /r/paradoxplaza.

>>158701902
its been different since around two weeks ago

its shit now, i wish we could go back to the usual shitposting

>>158701560
No, you need 180 holdings OR 3 kingdoms. I blobbed into Lithuania to fulfill the second requirement.

>>158701845
Performance went up noticeably along with the patch (support for multi-threading etc) and as for the DLC itself, it's decent.

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Mehmet dead at 30, but at least his replacement's alright.

>>158702000
I just mean the constant shill/EU4 posts.

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Not my game, Ignore everything but the shape of Switzerland. Where should I go from here? Im probably going to annex Genoa for their COT because I cant take anyone around me into my trade league.

>>158702043
ah, in HIP you have to have both

>>158702195
>>>/r/paradoxplaza

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>>158702195
You deserve to step on this

>>158702234
>going anywhere as switzerland
just blob in all directions then

>>158694297
Fort garrison is considered as the defender.

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>>158702195
>not only playing EU4, but playing the Ottomans

>>158702443
>ignoring the literal worst part
It's a troll post. He tried posting Kerbal Space Program here a couple of days ago but he wasn't getting enough (You)s.

>>158701902
Ridiculous, I haven't advertised my mod for ages

>>158702547
No, that was me.

>>158702547
I didn't even open the image.

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>current year - 639
>believing in the Lord rather than the Lord

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>>158701339
>>158701745
>take out loan of 100 gold
>send 58 as a gift to the King of Aragon
>marry my heir to one of his daughters, securing an alliance
>marry my first daughter to the cousin and heir of Barangeur-Ramon II of Barcelona, my old enemy
>secure a second alliance

music for this playthrough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jadxTFqyhRM

>>158702776
EL CID CAMPEADOR

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yesss...

>>158702957
Jesus fuck that's such a fucking meme.

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Gonna railroad this until we become filthy, disgusting. left wing leaning parasitic Communists because every time invariably I was end up full National Populist Tsar Wrangel
If I'm slow to update it's because a dog nipped my wrist and it hurts to type

This century has been nothing but an embarrassment for us. 1904 saw the loss of Manchuria and the last shred of our dignity and respect on the global stage gone. The next year saw the doomed first revolution and our first step towards a constitution. The revolutions of 1917 saw peace with Germany and the establishment of the Russian Republic and creation of Soviet Russia. The treaty of Brest-Livotsk ceded our western provinces to Germany, who created puppet kingdoms under the Hohenzollern and Habsburg dynasties.The German intervention of 1920 was the nail in the coffin of our great Empire and saw the Cossacks forming their own independent state while Japan established a puppet nation of White Russians in the far east. The bitter fighting led to the publishing of the incomplete memoirs of a young German corporal, Adolf Hitler. His novel "Unser Kampf" only furthered the issue Baltic German nationalism after Adolf Friedrich von Mecklemburg was crowned Grand Duke of the Baltic Duchy.

Every year our nation is forced to pay exorbitant fees to Germany in reparations for the two wars started by Berlin. Emotions are running high and opinions of Kerensky are at an all time low. The winds of change are blowing throughout Russia.

>>158703138
Fuxking finally, a real game. Based DH lad.

After extract the downloaded files, how can I play the game ?

>>158703238
>fuxking

>>158703536
I was so glad to have a grand strategy game posted on /gsg/ that I hit the x key on my phone rather than the c key.

>>158703583
>phone poster
>complaining about post quality
fulkek

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>tfw you will never be a merchant in the 15th century sailing across the seas to buy and sell goods on your venetian fleet

Why even live?

What games let me get a feeling similar to this?

>>158703668
East India Company

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>>158702776
holy war for the region of Balansiyya by the Berbers, gonna holy war this county while the big guys are distracted

if the muzzies to the north declare war, i'll call in my buddies

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>>158703846
captured the dude, minimal bloodshed

now to either wait five years for the holy war timer to cool off or press a claim once i fabricate it

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>>158703138
In the early morning of January 7th Alexander Kerensky was shot and killed by an unknown assailant. The gunman stepped forward from the crowd while Kerensky was driving in an open top car and fired six shots from a Mauser C96, striking Kerensky in the abdomen. Despite immediate aid and being rushed to the hospital Kerensky.

In the immediate session of the Duma that followed the Social Revolutionary-Menshevik coalition usurped control of the government. A ruling senate of high ranking party officials has taken over day-to-day ruling of the nation, while Iraklij Tsereteliy has become the public face of the regime.

>>158703668
East India Company
The Patrician series (3 is the best imo)
CK2
Kalypso Media (Tropico devs) made a game called Rise of Venice set in the late 1400s/early 1500s but I haven't played it, it should be on Skidrow though.

>tfw catholic albanian
>tfw leading albania to a great catholic world power in eu4
>albania will never be christian again

why live?

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>>158704053
The senate cannot rule effectively for long before falling to infighting. A Prime Minister is desperately needed to bring leadership and calm to the turbulent aftermath of Kerensky's death.
After much discussion, the Senate appoints:

Pick one, /gsg/:
>Stay with the Mensheviks, Iraklij Tsereteliy
>Compromise, the Liberal Pavel Milyukov
>These are extreme times and we need a shot of Bolshevism, Nikolai Bukharin!
I think only Bukharin will actually cause the country to change to the Soviets.

>>158704053
Can you go gross trotskyum judaiums internationalisms in KR?

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>>158691406
Just remembered that Persia's been jewish since about 539. only the ruler tho, it seems like most of the vassals haven't converted, and only like two or three provinces in his realm are.

still waiting for islam to spawn, hopefully the event isn't bugged (I turned it on in the game rules).

>>158696216
desu french orthography is aesthetic.

>>158704505
Bukharin

>>158704506
I can't remember if Trotsky is kicking around, I think he is if you pick the Bolsheviks.

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They actually did it.

>>>/v/356199795

Can you guys give me some tips?

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>>158704645
Do it lad. Make Judeo-Bolshevism great again.

>>158704731
>byzantine AI
How?