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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, October 29th:
1390 – First trial for witchcraft in Paris leading to the death of three people.
1922 – King Victor Emmanuel III of Italy appoints Benito Mussolini as Prime Minister.
1923 – Turkey becomes a republic following the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire.
1942 – The Holocaust: In the United Kingdom, leading clergymen and political figures hold a public meeting to register outrage over Nazi Germany's persecution of Jews.
1948 – Safsaf massacre: Israeli soldiers capture Palestinian village of Safsaf in the Galilee and massacre villagers after they surrender.

>News
EU4 Rights of Man and patch released. Search 4chan's archive with archivebro's trip for links.

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!IkNwBRKR!WI_JYByFpRFzXLx3d1uD2A

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!TVA2RByJ!tuh0k4SR5gXPLtmxsMd4KZ0at9gY5s5_oV70ui8A4B0

>>[EU4] - Expensive Warfare Mod 1.0
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6 - 15/09/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V8
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

Old Thread >>158668329
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>158754636
Based
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This is the paradox fanbase
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>>158754636
White
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>>158754636
HAHAHA CLASSIC!!!
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>>158754850
>you don't have to buy it
>fucking blitzing is DLC
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>>158754636
Always makes me crack up
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>>158754850
This is the Paradox Fan base.
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Someone know what to do after downloading the files for playing EU4 ?
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>>158755089
I wonder if CK3 will come with all the features from CK2 + DLCs or they'll do a Sims-style scam and sell only the base game, making people pay for everything all over again later.
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Send help guise
>>158750578
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Im playing EU3 (sorry for no Pic cant take sreenshots for some reason) and for some reason Persia is in the Spice Islands in the 1420s. That takes and chance of me owning them as Korea away. I mean I didnt really want to own them just vassal but still. How is Persia in the fucking spice islands? How is this allowed. I mean imagine England in the 100 year war getting some province in the Kongo.
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>>158755324
Take what you can for the AE and then console it so that you own those provinces and they get the other ones back.
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Let's post our biggest blobs. Took me 7 centuries.
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>>158755572
how does it take you that long to blob as an emperor?
i have dozens of kingdom claims that i can enact at any time at 1100, if i wanted to blob id own everyone by 1200
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>>158755572
Mine was Scandinavia and Russia in a single lifetime... Not that I capped it cause it was boring.
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>>158755679
Not him, but if youre an emperor a single county gives you enough infamy to form defensive pacts.. Its best to be a large duke and hand over new things to other dukes that stay in the emperors control but you can just become emperor after youre done blobbing. Most infamy then goes to the emperor and i cools down faster.
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EU4 is great aside from the combat

Why can't paradox even design forts that affect the AI also?
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>>158755685
>start as pagan in earliest start
>declare dozens of wars at a time, imprison all your vassals, have -2000 gold
>conquer everything north and east of poland in one lifetime
was pretty fun once
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>>158755856
>pagan
>having probems with money
Did you not constantly sack Venice and Genoa? I mean thats 2k right there. And you get 2k more every 5 years.
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>>158755475
How do I make it without the use of console though
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>>158755838
Why can't Paradox design AI?
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>>158755838
The real problem is that they can't design AI that would understand how forts work and not have to cheat with fow.
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>>158755989
Annex Georgia. Or open the province and give it to Georgias control and see if you can let them take it.
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>>158755838
Might as well have just kept it the same. With the change it tricks you into thinking they are useful and burning cash for no reason
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>>158755572
Biggest blob like biggest compared to a reasonable size or general size
Compared to original/acceptable size is pic related
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>>158755965
Only Norse pagans can do that.
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>tfw you don't check your province limit
So I need to get my deficit in check how do?
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>>158756662
Well I do it even if Im not a pagan, just custom yourself norse. Its free money. And there is always raiding your neighbors, which if your that big should be easy, and it might take a while but just going around Poland should give you a grand.
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>>158756076
It's an older save that I've loaded to try to understand the coring mechanics.
I can give them to Georgia, but the plan is for me to take Shirvan right now, not in ten years when I can diploannex Georgia. Without the need to bother with Khundzia preferably, if only it was possible.
Why I can demand Khundzia in a peace deal when it's not adjacent to any of my own provinces but can't do the same with Shirvan ?
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>>158756791
Likely because inland sea and lakes are considered like adjacent sea zone or something.
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>>158756601
>>158755572
General biggest blob i have a screenshot off
disguisting, i know
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>>158756759
Did you buy EU4 ?
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>>158757017
of*
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>>158755305
>will come with all the features from CK2 + DLCs
Of course not.
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>>158757103
Only the base game for easy access to the mods. That version with all the DLC is pirated
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Is AFPGuy around?
Id need some flags for the Roman Empire and Andalusia/Granada
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>>158757520
How did you pirate it ?
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>>158757908
Nice try Johan
My friend bought all the DLCs, i copied his files and i cracked the game myself
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>>158757569
Just got here, sorry I've been dead the last week. What do you need exactly?
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>>158757908
read the OP
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Is HPM guy around?
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>>158758067
I just wanted a solution to my problem,though :^(
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Why the fuck ck2 slows down the more holdings you have? How can they slowdown game?
Unlimited demesne practically useless. Conquered india and and game is 4x slower.
Conquered world as nomads and settled - game 0.5 fps without doing anything and giving one county takes more than 5 minutes.
Holdings arent characters. how the fuck they break the game so much?
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>>158758076
Roman Empire flags
Fascist, Communist, Republic and Monarchist
Same for Andalusia, with that that i already have these two
Also i saw in your pastebin that you want to add the Black Army Flag as an alt to Ukraine, you already made one idk if i upladed it to the mega archive
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Is HPM guy around?
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>>158756875
Do I understand it correctly, you need an existing owned land core province to core any inland sea province ? So I wouldn't be able to core Gilan if I own Shirvan and Ardabil is owned by my vassal ?
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>>158758304
Also, a pommegranade version if i may ask
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/La_Granada_de_Rio-Tinto_Spain.svg/600px-La_Granada_de_Rio-Tinto_Spain.svg.png
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>>158758128
I read the Op, I downloaded the links on cs.rin, I extractes the files.
Now I search what to do with my files
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>>158758304
>Roman Empire flags.Fascist, Communist, Republic and Monarchist
Hmmm, quite ambitious, but I'll try to do my best.

>Same for Andalusia, with that that i already have these two
Bear in mind that those are for Andalusian Mexico IIRC, though.

>Also i saw in your pastebin that you want to add the Black Army Flag as an alt to Ukraine, you already made one idk if i upladed it to the mega archive
Yeah I still got it lying around, but I think I'll make it again from scratch to make sure I make it in the best possible way. The text is always the hardest thing to get right.

>>158758476
Sure.
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>>158757908
Megaupload
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>>158758518
OP*
Extracted*
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>>158758250
meme engine

Also probably something like it performs some checks on player provinces that it doesn't on AI stuff or does those checks more often. Vision might also have a thing with it as EU at least is significantly slower if you ally say Ming or France and can suddenly see a whole bunch more provinces
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Who is a cool character or region to start CKII as?
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Is reaper due an paid game booster? I heard it makes your characters die more often
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Ok, I'm done with my meme. Who should i play as? The Roman Republic, the Roman Kingdom, the Greek Empire or the Latin Empire?
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>>158758532
I have some ideas for the Roman Empire tho
Caesars rome was crudely said fascism, so using the symbols of the roman Consul could be ok
Or even an golden outlined face of Caesar on a dark red/purple background
Or the symbols that were used on scutums
http://medievalcostumesandgifts.com/images/product-images/09_07_07_025.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ce/e1/cd/cee1cdcf33175ff4f249010042618379.jpg

http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/73000/73097/73097_caesar_coin_lg.gif
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Which r/paradoxplaza subreddits are /gsg/ approved, laddies?
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>>158759058
>>158758532
Also the serb town of Niš could be an inspiration if anything
Simple two headed eagle, laurel or olives?
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>>158759058
>Or even an golden outlined face of Caesar on a dark red/purple background
How tacky.
>Or the symbols that were used on scutums
That's better.

I plan to use a fasces though, since Mussolini (and everyone who has ever used that symbol) took the fasces from Roman symbolism so there's actually no better time to use a fasces as for a Roman fascist flag.

>>158759267
Hmm, maybe, I'll see about it. Any suggestions for commie one? That's the hardest to come up with. Also, are you ok with those Mexican Andalusian flags or would you want me to at least change the [Mexican] colours of the republican one?
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>>158759404
If you could recolour them that would be nice
No need to remove the star either, i can use it as a commie flag

thanks lad
Take some slovenian memes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwLSrNu1ppI
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>>158759594
>No need to remove the star either, i can use it as a commie flag
That was originally a Republican flag actually, but that's fine. So just so I have it correctly in my mind, for Andalusia you'd need Republican and Fascist flags?
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>>158759682
Yes
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>>158759128
Please answer, lads, I need some quality content to read.
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Newbie here.

I was wondering, is there a specific design reason they chose to make these games play out in real-time?

I can't see any benefit over turn-based. I'm literally sitting watching the screen for dozens of minutes at a go, perpetually adjusting sliders. There aren't enough random events, nor could there ever be, to justify things playing out in real-time rather than condensing every major aspect of the gameplay into annual or bi-annual turns.
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>>158760174
>quality content
How about a nuke.
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>tfw you blobbed hard and ruined the campaign for yourself again
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>>158759058
TACKY
A
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Y
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>>158758828
pls respond
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>>158760424
>Of all the founders
>Judaism
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>>158754617
Does anyone know when Hearts of Iron IV will be playable? It's currently one of the worst games I've played in my life, im just playing HoI3 with mods while waiting.
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>>158754850
>>158755089
This is the paradox fan base.
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>>158759404
>Not using Romulus and Remus as the republican flag
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>>158760760
Brazilians
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>>158760697
Probably never sadly.
You can patchwork ai but never truly fix it.

Also India/Pakistan starting a war right now, India wrecked 4 Pakistani border posts.
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>>158760784
Something like this?
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>>158760697
>Hearts of Iron IV
buy pls
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>>158761004
bought ur welcome
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>>158760965
>>158760784
That's actually good, does any of you have a good, clear image of Romulus and Remus I could use?
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>>158760961
Any new sources?
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>>158761146
https://www.thequint.com/india/2016/10/29/pakistan-post-casualties-inflicted-keran-jammu-and-kashmir-india-jawan-killed-uri-machil-loc-attack-ceasefire-violation
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>>158760697
I think HoI IV was intended for people that didn't like HoI III
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>>158760901
>>158760760
I'll just state that Peter "the sleepy" II was so bad, but so bad, that the population would rather have a bunch of cannon fodder in power than him. And his father was a raging alcoholic troublemaker - not content creating some stupid blob, he went full 'GONNA RUIN PORTUGAL TOO' and threw the country into civil war.
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>>158761374
HoI IV was intended for people that liked Stellaris
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>>158761390
Nobody gives a shit you fucking monkey
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>>158761302
>>158761146
>>158760961
>ids habbenin
Border guards fire on each other every month in Kashmir. It's literally nothing.
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>>158761390
Nobody cares mate, you country could disappear from existence and nobody in the world would notice.
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>>158761431
>"people" that "liked" Stellaris
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>>158761669
B-but its 20-60 people dead.
They really dont care that much?
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>>158761815
They literally have millions more soldiers.
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>>158761095
Its a fan flag of AS Roma
Ill try to find that print
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>>158762127
Oh shit, meant to reply to >>158761095
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>>158761937
You really should get into european football lad
Most of the flags that i made for MCGs HRE mod are based on football teams

http://www.asromaultras.org/Adesivospqrgiallooro.jpeg
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>>158761675
>Nobody cares mate, you country could disappear from existence and nobody in the world would notice.
True (it applies even to its inhabitants), but people here on /gsg/ usually like history and trivia from irrelevant countries.
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>>158762493
European football is 90% non-European players now.
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lol why are people posting pictures of babies sucking a dog's dick wtf?
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>>158759267
WE WUZ
>>158762662
Both national and league
sad 2bh
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>>158762664
Small historic trivia - the legends say, that Romulus and Remo were nurtured by a she-wolf.
Kinda missing the point, since "lupa" in Latin was also a slang for prostitute... they were actually raised by a whore.
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>>158762902
Romulus and Remo did not exist at all anyway
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>>158762824
>sad 2bh
There's an old saying that goes "If you want to see how a country will look demographically in 20 years, look at their football team."

I have high hopes for South Africa based on their rugby team.
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I'm doing a CK II run as the Spartenos dynasty, starting as a OPM in Naples with a Greek Orthodox duke.

Should I conform to Italy and become Catholic / Lombard or should Italy conform to me and become Orthodox / Greek.
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>>158762982

Next thing you're going to tell us that the 7 kings of rome never existed either. Fucking carthagians, constantly spreading lies.
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>>158760363
Because making game act instead of react if better by default.
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>>158759267
Laurel.

>>158762982
Eh, we won't know for sure if they existed or not. At least is more probable than Jesus or shit like that.

Regardless, I think the original story was about twins raised by a prostitute.
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>>158763005
“Since the Australian football team is mostly Croatian, we win either way.”
~ Stjepan Mesić

Thats means that there will be even more croats in australia
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IS THE NEW CK2 EXPANSION ANY GOOD?

Or should I just keep playing patch 2.5.2 without conclave.
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>>158763076
One of the oldest and most overdone runs since CK2 came out

Swear fealty to ERE and blob like a madman. Restore Sicily and Africa as Roman provinces.
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Guys... WAKE THE FUCK UP.
ROME 2 LAUNCH TRAILER. WAAAAHT THE FUCK NO VICTORIA 3????????????????????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kLtfM5U7SM
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>>158763086
>(((carthagians)))
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Guys Rome was founded by fucking Aeneas what are you on about
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>>158763527
*throw potato*

Post this in a non-nigger language instead.
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So from looking at other mods, from EU3 to V2, I think you HAVE to replace the vanilla font with the modded one in order to work. Which is a shame but I guess I'll have to deal with that and make a back up
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>>158763725
Vergilius was literally paid to write that, as a way to shut the Greeks up.
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>>158763429
i dont feel like doing the spartenos run anymore :(
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>>158763527
wow... really makes you consider...
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>>158763317
>romulus
>more probable than jesus
hilarious joke anon
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>>158759594
>>158760784
>>158760965
>>158761937
I'm not sure I nailed the execution of this. What do you think?
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>>158764024
Bretty good
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>>158763901
>>158763725
Reminder if you dont own this book you are officially denounced by /gsg/
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>>158759594
In any case, I also finished the Monarchy one. It's was the obvious choice, it's the vexillum of the Roman Empire, the closest thing they had to a flag.
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>>158760784
>Romulus
>Remus
>Anything to do with the Roman republic
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>There're no plague survivor trait or dynamic events for surviving the plague
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When civilising, is it better to remain small in order to get literacy up faster and blob using your CBs in the last year, or is it better to blob as fast as you can to get the bonus RP immediately?
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>>158764509
Blob like there's no tomorrow
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>>158763976
If you find some hobo being a literal god more probable than some tribal leaders being raised by a whore, so be it.
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Should I let Bulgaria in the union, or continue gassing them, lads?
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>>158764024
Do you mind if I mess a bit with it?
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>>158764937
Sure.
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>>158764867
Why not both?
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>>158764186
What is the list of /gsg/ approved books, like the one we have for movies?

I already know of these ones but I want more.
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>>158765051
Why are you reading propaganda?
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>Get Spain as Junior Partner in PU
>They are 14 tech behind the rest of Europe, behind even Tunis and Morocco
>Spending about 3x as much as their income a month
>4000 in debt
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>>158765051
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>>158765051
Not sure but that one must be added.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commentarii_de_Bello_Gallico

Its not only plainly written but actually helps you with latin ALOT.
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>>158765051
Art of the Deal
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Is really Victoria II harder than ck2 or EUIV? Im interested rn in this period a lot.

Thanks, im a beginner on GSG tho.
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>>158765643
What does Victoria 2 have to do with the second world war?
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>>158764808
romulus did more unrealistic things than jesus could ever aspire to
romulus single handedly united a bunch of criminal fucks into a coherent group, successfully populated the city, successfully brokered positive peace deals with all their enemies, never lost a battle, and was an all around great chap did never did anything wrong, so they named the city of rome after him
very coincidentally directly after he established rome's prowess in warfare, the next king established rome's prowess in piety and superstition, before once more returning to warfare and then religion combined with warfare
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>>158765051
Storm of Steel by Ernst Junger, the greatest account of WWI.
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>>158765852
Well, that makes up for a more interesting story than "we were just a bunch of dumbfucks till the greeks came along and we copied their way of life"
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>>158765051
Fatherland - Robert Harris
Imperium -II-
1984
Black Book of Communism
Arhipelag Gulag
The Origins of Totalitarianism
Starship troopers
Main Kampf
The Dictator's Handbook

But if you want to be an endy leftist, read orwells stuff
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We're back and tuscany is a bit better now
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>France form the Entente with Romania and Yugoslavia
>Poland, the Entente and the allies strikes as Germany declare war on luxembourg
>Poland ends up as having 80 warscore participation as it reaches Rome.

Wew lads.
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>>158765791
It ends with WW2 starting
WW2 didnt just pop out of nowhere, it is strongly connected to the victorian era
and >>158765643 no, victoria 2 being hard is just a meme
tbqh, i just started playing eu4, and it isnt even that bad
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Started off with 355 Dynasty members. Two years of the plague and 33.33% of them are dead. Fucking whew.
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>>158765002
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>>158765643
Not really harder once you know what's what. It's pretty easy when you know what to do actually, it's just the most indepth of the, with the most satisfying mechanics.
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>>158764282
Notice me senpai
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>>158766423
That's really neat. The shapes are way clearer. I'm not too sold on the letter designs, though, are those the traditional way of writing them? In any case, it's an improvement over mine so >>158759594 use that one.

>>158766470
I really advise against using that design.
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>>158766470
Cleaned up some pixels
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>>158765051
Here's /k/'s repository of history books
https://murdercube.com/files/History/
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>>158766617
>are those the traditional way of writing them?
Yes, they used to write like this on stone and clay tablets.

Alternatively, you might want to mix our designs, using your letters with my wolf.
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quality or quantity?
there is a correct answer
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>>158766279
>victorian era
Uh, no. Most of ww2 happened as a direct consequence of ww1. Hell, most of the shit that would later precipitate ww1 happened during the Edwardian era.

Your reasoning for playing vicky2 is based on poor historical knowledge.
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>>158766774
>Alternatively, you might want to mix our designs, using your letters with my wolf.
Like this?
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>>158765051
>all these people responding to my shitty bait seriously

What the hell have you guys done to me lads? It wasn't supposed to go like this
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>>158766931
Yup.
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/gsg/ posters are this retarded
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>>158766931
I cut the Q's tail a bit so it doesn't look that modern.
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>>158766367
Isn't the plague scripted to purge dynasties of useless characters in a ""realistic"" way?
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>>158765229
Seriously should I just give up the PU? I can't imagine how I'm ever going to afford all the mana costs if I annex. They have bits of Italy and shit too.
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>>158766670
>>158766470
>>158760487
STOP
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>>158767335
Not just the plague but all events in general are meant to purge relatively useless characters. Non the less though, it seriously fucked up the stability of my empire. The inheritance of everything is totally fucked now.
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I think that ill go with these flags fascist one isnt finished so ill use the old desing as a filler
Anybody knows how to mod Icons
So, i just add another Symbol to icon_religion and it will be icon18?
HPM already modded in 3 symbols that way
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>>158768057
Dude, that last one is a Romanian Empire flag. Just so you know what you are getting into.
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>>158768201
I know, i got it from the mega archive
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>>158768201
>Ro
>manian
>Empire
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>>158765004
yeah
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>>158768201
And the middle two may as well be flags of the Roman kingdom. What's it matter?
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>>158768490
Because gypsies have nothing to do with Romans and Dacians, don't fall for that shitty meme
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Castille attacked Andalusia withouth me again.
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>tfw still no new Companymod
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>>158768201
Hey lad did you finish those Madagascar flags yet? Take your time if not, its not a huge deal
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What should my borders be?
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>>158768596
Gypsies are brown. Romans were brown.

>implying
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>>158768738
Nigger I thought you were dead. I haven't been in gsg in months, when did you come back?
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>>158768461
>Conquering Istria, and not Slovenia proper.
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>>158769020
In time, laddo.
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How high can experience go, I always though it topped out at 35% or something.
I guess I'm going to find out.
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>>158769020
>>158769089
>Slovenes
>Slavs

Pick one
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>>158768738
Ah, sorry. I put down the names of the tribes you wanted me to make but haven't actually begun researching them. I probably won't be able to do much today but I'll begin gathering information.
Luckily, I do have quite a bit of things left over from when I did Madagascar flags for my pack so I could repurpose some of that.
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Protestant, Reformed, or stay Catholic?
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>>158768057
So this should work now?
Also, anybody knows a way to convert pops to another religion via an event or decision?
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>>158769143
Goes up to 100%
Obviously
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>>158769153
Last time I checked, Slovenian and Serbocroatian are Slavic languages, so yes, at least 92% of the Slovenes are Slavs.
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>>158769404
You know what you must do.
P R O T E S T A N T
SAINT WORSHIPERS GO HOME
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>>158769404
Reformed.
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Catholic, Orthodox, and Monothelite empires all fighting together to take *almost* Jerusalem from the Shia.
I'll take things I never thought I'd see for 200.
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>>158769404
orthodox
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>>158769143
show urop
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LET'S MAKE GEORGIA STRONG AGAIN

Now that I'm BFF with Muscovy I can remove Quhaa... Qu´raaahhh Quasselwhateverfuckingfaggots from the premise, free Armenia and then slowly advance towards the ottomans to remove kebab from the roots.
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>>158769641
What do you get from being reformed?
Currently playing as Prussia, switched back to catholicism mainly for the papal bonuses
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Did Institutions remove the only weakness the roaches had?
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>>158768729
Working on some loading screens atm because the original modder is a cunt and still hasn't posted what he made.
Have a qt Krupp
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>>158769404
>Protestant, Reformed, or stay Christian?
The later.
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>>158769153
>declare war for slovenia
>gommie turks summon thousands of brigades to kill me
epic
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>>158770146
>Worshiping Saints
Literally fucking Paganism

>>158770072
K R U P P
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>starting holy wars on a Shia empire and not realizing that all three major muslim empires are Shia
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>>158769525
By your logic, aboriginals are anglo.

>>158770264
Kebab greatest ally
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Spend 20 years grooming marrying/grooming proper heirs so they can rule the Byzantine Empire. I go to war I win but costs me like 200 gold and 5000 men. I install my claimant but then some other cunt literally 1 day after usurps the title. This feature is so fucking gay it's unreal.
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>>158769416
Shieeet
I mostlikely just saved it the wrong way
Ill ask alex when he is around
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>>158769738
It's pretty normal desu. UK kept Iceland/Greenland because I was already in the war by the time they got them. Based Norway somehow turned back the nazis and held on to their heavy water for me. Finland joined the Allies during the Winter War because we were already at war with USSR, then the event ended hostilities for all parties, then I re-declared and Finland obviously got rolled over by the full weight of the slav war machine (didn't even get government in exile status). Thankfully there's a break in infrastructure in Norway that kept the slavs from driving right into Oslo. Germany never broke M-R, I've seen this happen before where they eventually declared in 1943 but I'm kind of hoping they don't do it this time because it would make me very happy to roll into Nazi Berlin via Vladivostok as opposed to Soviet Berlin.
I think I'll declare for Ireland so the UK can reclaim their rightful clay.
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>>158770501
can't really usurp unless you fuck up
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>>158770407
>due to all the genocide slovenia is my most populous state
>over a fifth of it is german now
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WHY DO THEY STILL HAVE NO ATTRITION ANTI-EVERYTHING STACKS 200 YEARS AFTER THE INVASION
THEY ARE NOT EVEN TENGRI ANYMORE
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>>158770592
Bad news, Alex is in the great liquor factory in the sky now. His organs were harvested by favela monkeys.
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>>158770653
I'm confused, how could I have fucked up? This happens almost every time you install a claimant of an empire.
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>>158758304
>>158759058
>tfw my flags for a megacampaign mod that never came to fruition are being used
Feels good.
>>
How can I disable Shattered Retreat in HIP, they removed the option to disable it because they have their heads up their own asses and said "no, we fixed it."
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>>158770329
I'm sorry, I can't hear your strawman, due to the obnoxious noise of your Luther worshippers screaming about something from lower realms they love so much.

TBQH I'm a fedora, but otherwise I'd be Catholic. Protestantism screams treason.
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>>158770820
Lotharingia mod?
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About to start Darkest Hour for the first time.
Anything I should know? Some tips? Thanks.
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Lads, can we win this one?
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>>158770993
thats what you get for playing as a disguisting serb
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>>158770993
>literally gasing islamig gommunists as serbia
Nice meme game friendo
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>Spain in charge of not being fuck ups
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>>158770631
>3 way war
Neat
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>>158770985
Varies by nation, IC runs pre-war never hurt.
Group your infantry units in groups of 3, attach Artillery if you can afford it. Groups of 3 are much more manageable and versatile.
If you want to be a raging faggot, a doomstack of 99x Subs is cheese-central. Otherwise a surface fleet of 15x Aircraft Carriers guarded by 15x Cruisers is a good comp, do not bother with Battleships their range is shit.
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>>158770985
Instead of building motorized infantry or tanks build cavalry and then upgrade the cavalry to motorized or tanks, it's faster.
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>>158771114
>>158771167
turks OUT
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>>158770735
AI is so stupid with Attrition that we had to remove it so it doesn't kill itself
T.Johan
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Cost me 1900 dollars in the surrender.
Looking real tempting right about now.
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>>158770985
Use CAS or Tactical Bombers to ground support against the enemy during a battle and then ground attack the enemy units when they're retreating.
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>>158771330
Nice job.
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>>158771606
Imagine if this shit happened IRL?
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>>158771658
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>>158771858
It's over, perfidious Albion is helping the Turks.
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>Edinburgh is almost twice as developed as Vienna
Development is a fucking meme
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>>158771917
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>>158771321
You can upgrade horses to tanks?!
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I finally picked up Crusader Kings 2 while it was on sale. What should I know before jumping in? What are the essential DLCs?
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>>158772112
conclave and sunset invasion
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>>158772024
The Muslim forces were too strong.
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Castille just "won" their war. I guess Im going to wait for their truce to be over and finally destroy Andalusia
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>>158771996
Nice job becoming Rome
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>>158772094
Rise of Nations style
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>>158771996
that's what you get for playing a meme mod
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>>158772390
>meme mod
its not even the mod. i've seen this shit happen in vanilla
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>>158772197
>sunset invasion
that's a meme so I'll avoid Conclave too kthx
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>>158772210
What the fuck. Literally everyone joined against us and we're not over the infamy limit or anything.
>>
Question about tribals:

The Viking Age event has just fired up and I've been thinking that the best way to go about raiding is to raise Tribal Organization to high so that I can raise my vassals' ships and levys and go raid with those.

This means that I don't pay anything at all for my raiding parties, but vassals get a -20 hit to opinion with me. Is this the best course of action?
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>>158772210
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>>158772390
>>158772450
What mod is this?
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Oh my god Florentia no!
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>>158772607
It's just extended timeline, I made countries with the nation editor
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>>158772516
Best course of action is to reform asap. If you don't have enough. Also tribal levies are joke.
>either rise 57-300
>or call ally with 1600 + potential tribal army.
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>>158772450
It depend on your luck with your mana source. If scotland get good kings and Austria only get inbred retard there's not much that can be done.
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WHAT
THE
FUCK

Quarafuckmyass was at war with the Marmlucks, 90% of the fucking country was under siege by the Marmluks while the Quara army of 30k men chilled in Ganja and decided to declare war on me for no fucking reason why the entire country of them burns. Muscovy refused the call to arms, Lithuania refused and as soon as Quara declared war on my ass they lost like half of their provinces to the Mamluks like nobody ever gave a single fuck.

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>158772529
I'm going to mobilise and make this the front line, it's the only way to defend against the combined forces of everyone.
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>>158772981
Ai programmed snipe human player. News at 11.
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>>158773141
>No Loop-de-Loop
0/10
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>>158773141
Oh for fucks sake.
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>>158772681
Is that random nations?
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These fucks just declared war on me. Why was my ally France not called to arms? I could understand if they refused but our alliance is still there despite them not being apart of the war.
>>
>Polotsk has more development that Constantinople
I'm really starting to hate this meme game
>>158773390
see >>158772809
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>>158773519
forgot pic
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>>158773362
Its ogre
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Now our allies have gone to war against the greeks and we have to fight alongside the S*ltan*te of R*m
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>>158759058
>Caesars rome was crudely said fascism

Lol
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>>158773952
I think this meme team has a few months left.
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>>158770874
Yeah
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>>158774202
What's Albion going to take from you? I hope they liberate everyone.
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>>158770840
Anyone?
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>>158774363
Nothing.
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>>158774267
I'd play this
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>>158772462
Go for old gods, rome, sword of islam if you want kebab, and way of life.
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>>158774267
You were so close, making decisions and events are super easy. I can even help you or make them for you if you tell me what you want
Can you at least upload it? I want to play with that zoroastrian Persia
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>>158774585
Okay, NOW it's over.
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>>158775143
Based Canadians are the best at carrying out the Eternal Anglo's will.
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>>158775490
Actually, it looks like we've won that as well.
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>>158775143
It's never truly over until Germany also declares war on you laddo
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>>158774202
How is your economy so shit as Yugoslavia? There are so many great RGOs in your land. Meanwhile I'm doing better as fucking Portugal (that has 3 states in the mainland)
>>
Hey /gsg/, looking for a screencap of a strategy game story here that was roughly about a dude who's society survived long enough to be locked in a state of perpetual war with another, and had details like there were 2 nuclear wars and the frontlines were in a constant state of losing thousands of tanks as more tanks were made to fill their places
Any of you guys have that? I await any help with the name of the game or the picture itself
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>>158775719
You mean the Eternal War from Civ 2?
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>>158775719
That's literally from the civ subreddit , one of the top posts
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>>158775718
>>158774202

Also I'm only in 1890, you are 30 years ahead
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>>158775802
>>158775885
Looks like it was the Eternal War, thanks guys
Fuck i was looking for this for months because I had forgotten it and you all found it in seconds
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Well, they've broken the line and captured Belgrade. The dream is dead, but at least we killed a lot of Turks and Anglos in the process.

>>158775651
Germany is on my side.

>>158775718
Frequent genocide.
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>>158776184
Going to lose most of Bulgaria and Slovenia for this.
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wew
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>>158776487
Not actualyl too bad. The borders actually look better.
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>>158776770
>Carnaro
What
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>France
>>
any tips for new eu4 player. never plaed EU before, only really know CK2 and Stellaris

started out as ottomans and i took Constantinople, but not sure if i should go east (levant) or west

is there anything that isn't glaring obvious that a newcomer might miss? i know i'm supposed to get national ideas or something but my technology isn't high enough yet
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>>158777339
They all look based and white
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>>158777373
Ottomans are super easy mode. Literally the easiest nation in the game.
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>>158777373
>east (levant) or west

both
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>>158777373
just go in what direction you want, if you go east and take arabia then you should focus on your navy and exploration/colonization, if you go west then focus on your army since you'll be fighting against the western powers for most of your playthrough.
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If anyone's interested I'm hosting a Commonwealth Players vs Veteran AI game in HOI4 right now.

Join for comfyness and biscuits.
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>>158776867
A North Italian meme state.
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>>158762824
>WE WUZ
Constantine the great was born in Naissus.
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>>158777782
Pirate friendly?
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>turn off supernatural memes
>have to play chess with Death himself for my life anyways

god damnit
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>>158778743

uhh maybe?
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>>158779119
more like few extra chins lmao
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Now what? Should I unify islam after ruling the coffee business?
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EVERYWHERE YOU GO
ALWAYS TAKE THE WEATHER WITH YOU
EVERYWHERE YOU GO
ALWAYS TAKE THE WEATHER WITH YOU
EVERYWHERE YOU GO
ALWAYS TAKE THE WEATHER WITH YOU
EVERYWHERE YOU GO
ALWAYS TAKE THE WEATHER WITH YOU
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The Protestant reformation started in Rhodes on tonight's episode.
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>>158780165
Never seen that in my campaigns.

Can the reformation center convert muslim provinces?
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>>158780585
Its not a center and they havent accepted it as their religion, so I dont know.
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You guys are smart, right? Show me some 4D Chess-level machinations, /gsg/. I mean cream of the crop, next level, political/military/economic genius. Some good underdog stories would be cool, too.
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>>158774823
I'm actually working on another megacampaign right now, one which will probably be more interesting and will keep me hooked.

Here is all the work I had done so far. It was using a really old, modified version of HPM from the beginning of the year, with most of the country-specific events and decisions stripped since they wouldn't make sense in an alternate timeline.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b0nr007ub06buv1/LoC.rar?dl=0

Most of the world is done, with the exception of South America. Pic related is what I had in mind, had I continued.
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>>158763179
That's borderline nonsense unless you'd like to explain
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why does HIP increase duels so much?
it's cool, but it's kind of ridiculous how much they pop up.
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How do I Russia in vic2?
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>>158781327
>Historical Immersion Project
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>>158781658
I get the immersion part, but something in me doubts that on-the-battlefield one on one duels between nobles happened that frequently.
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>>158781645
delete initial fleets so you don't bleed money
raise literacy
build industry
???
profit
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>>158781804
Is it unrelated to the war focus? God knows that thing is next to fucking useless, if you're lucky you'll get a bunch of prestige from it but the odds of finding many targets to duel are slim to none. You'll need to actively set out to making rivals to duel.
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Assuming that, by some MIRACLE, Parabucks decided to not only make Vicky III, but also ignore the forum dicksuckers and make the best game possible.

What changes, or what could be added or improved in this hypothetical Vicky III?

Real, well thought-out answers encouraged, though I will also accept meme answers.
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>>158760424
If libtards care about minority religions and peace, why the fuck do they put above all else the worlds second largest religion with a history of violent wars, bigotry, conquest, slavery, and murder?
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>>158779119

alright lads, time to convert. hopefully i can deal with some of these enclaves in eu4 easier than the ck2 cluster fuck.

>tfw you'll never live in the correct timeline where the latin empire survives and jerusalem becomes a major power in the levant, spreading christendom and civilization to all the wayward mudslimes while other christian powers carve up the barbary states
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What is there to do as Tunisia in V2 if I don't want to form the Maghreb?
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>>158781076
Bumping for this.
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>>158782798
What date did you start at?
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>>158782807
Colonize Italy
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>>158782807
Get 2m Italian Aryans as immigrants
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>>158782798

>norwegian germany
>norway evicted from actual norway due to hre mechanics

fuck me, lads.

maybe rebels will fix it through the course of the campaign. rest seems alright.
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Let's keep going and see what happens.
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>>158775718
>doesn't have a liquor factory in every state
>calling others' economies shit
wew lad
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>>158782978

1206.

How far east should the Latin Empire stretch?
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>>158785454
Get good borders in Persia, with trading cities for trade companies in India.
Take arabia as well
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>Bring my GF to /gsg/
>HPM is naked on his computer
>Invites her into the campaign
>Proceeds to fuck her and the shitposters go wild
>Johan joins in aswell
>Gf getting triple penetrated and impregnated by tripfags
>"That was fun anon, I love Paradox! We should totally buy Stellaris!"

WHAT DO?
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>>158785454
>Norwegian Maghreb
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>>158782194
The division designer and production system from HOI4
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>>158785454
what ideas did the converter give you ?
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>>158782080
Yeah, you can get duels anytime you're leading troops in HIP regardless of your focus. They happen a lot.
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>>158786024
Sorry...
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>>158786024
>>158786278
shitposters
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>>158786024
In fairness to HPM he was drunk on liquor.
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>>158785454
>Indian Mamluks
wew
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>>158786024
>Bring Rob to /gsg/
>HPM is naked on his computer
>Invites him into the mod
>Proceeds to fuck him and the shitposters go wild
>Steamgroups join in aswell
>Rob getting triple penetrated and creampied by reddit
>"t. HPM"

wat do?
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>>158787929
>HPM comes to /gsg/
>Nobody gives a shit
>Starts developing a "mod"
>Nobody uses it
>Samefags to shill it
>Nobody replies to it
>Creates doxxing drama
>Nobody buys it
>"t. Rob"
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>>158788596
t. Rob
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>>158771321
Cavalry = 8.4 IC X 396 days + 9.74 IC X 348 days to upgrade to larm or 3.97 IC X 318 days to upgrade to mot.
Larm = 13.4 IC X 414 days.
Mot = 12.6 IC X 378 days.
It's more expensive to build and upgrade cavalry to tanks but it looks like it's slightly cheaper to upgrade to mot.
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>>158787929
>>158788596
>>158788748
>>158786024
>this kills the thread
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What's congress poland's tag?
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>>158788995
Motorized and Mechanized are the logical successors to cavalry, after all.
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>>158789280
CPL, I think
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>>158789379
Mechanized is probably the closest equivalent really.
After all gunpowerd powered cavalry was mostly used to be significantly faster and then use the advantage of the horse provides in chargers which became less relevant as time went on
Earlier cavalry translates better to light and medium tanks while late cavalry player the role of mechanized and even later as the actual combat advantage of the horse drops motorized infantry
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Whats the ideal army composition in Eu4?
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>>158789379
Cavalry in DH eventually upgrades to mechanized cavalry.
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Cont.

The Entente has been defeated and the liberated regions enjoy sovereignty for the first time in decades. With the scheming Empire defeated we are now faced with the bane of MacArthur's existence: The Syndicalists. The Germans managed to defeat the Commune of France but secure on their isles sit the Union of Britain and Socialist Republic of Ireland. The Socialist Republic of Italy stands to secure the entire Italian peninsula if their expansion is not checked.

Following their success in Operation "Fuck the Ausfags" the Marine Corp has boarded transports to the northeast where they will prepare for the invasion of the British Isles.
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>>158789661
up to flanking range of cavalry, combat width - cavalry of infantry and combat width of artillery.
endless waves of infantry and cavalry as reinforcements.
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>>158785595

I'll try for this. It's a natural chokepoint, and in CK2 I actually set up a catholic kingdom in India but once I let it go free it got gobbled up fast. Right now I'm just cleaning up my borders.

>>158786145

I really don't get how that happened. The kingdom in question I think had the kingdom of Lotharingian but maybe the kingdom of Norway too and the converter prioritized it strangely? This shit always happens to my HRE on converts. One game I had a Luxembourg the size of modern day Germany, so I'm just hoping the huge amount of wrong culture bring about a reckoning. The electors hate Norway too, so I'm optimistic the game will fix itself.

>>158786181

French, since the Latin Empire start starts you as a French culture. I kind of wish cultures were more detailed because I doubt a historical Latin Empire could have completely thrown away all Greco traditions and still stayed stable.

>>158787117

wew lad learn your history. WEW LAD. WEW.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk

they are actually in the historic start date of 1206 in Delhi

Also, what should I do with Jerusalem once they've incorporated all their vassals? Vassalize them? Let them be free/just influence/guarantee them?

>tfw you wrecked the Sultanate of Rum so hard they became Christian, lost all their turkish lands, and now the Sultan's descendants are nothing but a client kingdom north of Georgia simply just to be a meatshield between me and the mongol savages.
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>>158790496
huh, that could be a nice game them considering Mamluk trade ideas in the richest trade part of the game + converting to Sikh later on
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>>158782194
itll be SHIT

If they added rebel funding, proper ideological warfare and a dynamic change in warfare from MotE tier to HoI3 tier it would be great. Also, and his would never happen in a million years, events to do with genocide/population relocation, though not EU4 tier "convert culture" shit, it would have to be reasonably realistic.
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>tfw hearts of iron 4 was terrible on release
>tfw it still is
Paradox just gave up on it so they churn out Stellaris DLC, didn't they?
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>>158791745
HOI4 is fundamentally broken. They're not going to try to fix it.
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The production of our first atomic bomb has been completed.
It's completion has radically changed the plans of Operation "Fuck the Island Niggers." Where the plan called before for the taking of Ireland and strategic bombing of England before landing in Wales, the new plan is to secure the airfield of Dublin and use it to drop the Atomic bomb ("Yankee Doodle") on the city of Manchester. As the socialists are still in shock from the attack we will land well over forty divisions in Manchester and begin to push out to secure England and Scotland.

Another plan, "Operation Concord", calls instead for the saving of the atomic bomb and instead landing paratroopers in the lightly defended port city of Cardiff and land in Wales instead.
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>>158791745
One needs to only look at the patch history for both games to realize the truth.

HoI 4 was always intended to be a quick buck to have some extra funds for Stellaris.
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>>158793046
funny because stellaris is horrible and is barely improving.
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>>158793129
Nowhere in my post did I say it was a good game lad
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>>158792923
Nuke em and land your burgers in the radioactive waste
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>>158793046
>all those patches
>still no empire borders for mac
>STILL STARING AT GREY BORDERS BLOBBING INTO EACH OTHER
>STILL NO IDEA WHERE MY OWN EMPIRE BEGINS AND ENDS AFTER THE FIRST 100 YEARS
>STILL UNPLAYABLE
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>>158793905
sounds legit
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>>158768790
Just Somalia
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>>158770631
The arrival of the newly created Army 2nd Infantry allows for landings on the mainland Chinese coast, currently occupied by Imperial Japanese holdouts who refused surrender after the fall of the home island chain. The Japanese had been pressing hard against the thin defensive line near the Manchurian border, however, it seems they had tapped the extent of their military reserves to do it; thus, these landings were nearly unopposed and the men are taking advantage of fine weather to move quickly throughout the vestiges of the Japanese empire. Men previously tied up in subduing a Japanese revolt and occupying Karafuto have finally rejoined the front lines against the USSR and territorial gains are again being made on that front. In Europe, Germany and the USSR maintain an uneasy peace across the occupied Polish territories, and the Eternal Anglo attempts to bring reticent Ireland back into the fold.
Meanwhile, American scientists anticipate stockpiling enough fissile material to produce a nuclear weapon by July, and war planners are working furiously to develop a delivery system capable of reaching the obvious first target deep inside Russia.
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>>158787929
>>158788596
Why does this thread loves Alex so much, he has done nothing but attract drama, redditors and gut the independent modder scene. Now if you post about a mod and its not related to HPM you get branded a "shitposter" and kicked out, is this what you want?
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think I might buy eu4.
still gonna pirate the dlcs tho.
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>>158793521
>>158793129
>>158793046
>>158791745
It's childish nonsense to say that Johan rules Paradox, the ruler of Paradox is the financial market, the power of money, and of money alone.
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>>158794523
You know shitters are getting better when you don't know whether people are meming or have serious mental conditions. Perhaps both Hypotheses are equally true.
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>>158794470
MAGA
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>>158794470
I don't get this "put 'iums' at the end of country names" meme.
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Do Mughals get the best ideas in EU4?
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Burgundians pls leave Bharat. Thank.
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>>158758135
>>158758320
What do you need?
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How is DW:U still $60?
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The Republic of Ireland has been annexed outright into the United States of America. Bostonians everywhere rejoice.

Mj. General Doolittle's bomber command is being transferred to Dublin along with Eisenhower's First Army. General MacArthur's Second Army is being held in reserve to be landed when the time is right.
The planned airborne assault at Cardiff has been called off as the defenses proved more built up than expected. "Yankee Doodle" is being loaded onto the bomber "Lexington Green" and the target has been confirmed as Manchester City. Spirits run high as the mortal enemy of freedom and liberty is expected to be snuffed out.
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>>158796268
Can you fuck off? This was never funny. The fact you memorised HPM's old tripcode is pitiful, the fact you use it to LARP as him is pathetic. Your lkfe is a fucking joke and I sincerely hope you are not as much of a burden to your peers in real life as you are to us.

Also, can you make a decision for France to acfept Wallonian?
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>>158796626
It shouldn't be too hard to modify an accept culture decision for it, I made once a decision for Portugal to get cores on Brazil and get them as accepted. It was fun tbqh
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>Sicily, Tripoli and Senussi all declared independence within the last 730 days
is the game telling me to blob or what
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How can I guarantee that I stay in power in a Republic for CK II.
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In EU3 how do I get Ming to break apart without winning a war? Or even with I can just rack up the inflation, Im the richest person around and Iv got like 3 land tech on them. Korea by the way, I want to vassalize Manchu.
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>>158797296
money and lot's of family menbers
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>>158797205
Probably not considering the infamy would be greater to swallow them as independents
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>>158797296
Why would you want the power? The power means less cash as you cant war for Trade posts during that ENTIRE TIME on anyone but your enemies. Its better to not be in power as you cant lose your cities or trade posts and you can take it from the other people.
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>>158795960

> +20% Cavalry combat ability
+ ok
>−25% Core-creation cost
+++ one of the best
> +3 Tolerance of heathens
> +35% Religious unity
++ strong especially combind with cheap cores and when you know that you will conquer a lot of heathens.
>+5% Discipline
++ always strong
>−10% Cost of reducing war exhaustion
meh
>−10% Idea cost
++ can save you a shitload of mana

>+10% National tax modifier
+ good
>+1 Yearly prestige
+
>−10% Stability cost modifier
shit

>−5% Technology cost
++

So it is like there with the Ottomans, maybe even a little better.
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>>158797626
Cause I dont want to powergame like you.
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>>158797745
>power game
If I wanted to power game I would just become an female emperor with fair and seductress.
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>>158797205
You need to get malta at least
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MINE EYES HAVE SEEN THE GLORY OF THE COMING OF THE LORD
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>>158794924
Laissez faire sucks
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>>158794470
oh fug, expeditionary supply consumption now that the second army has landed exceeds the throughput from Washington DC across the continent to the west coast ports, I'm going to have to turn off auto-convoy and do all supply convoys manually direct from Washington DC in order to continue any further into Asia. With that, I'm done for tonight.
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>>158797995
Fuck Manchester.
t. sheffield
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>>158797995
Why not London?
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Is it possible to use the EU4 DLCs with a legit Steam copy of the game like you could with CK2 and the activator, hopefully without resorting to using some cracked EXE?
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>>158797436
Anyone?
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>>158754617

There any rape and general asshole mods for CK2? Preferably with actual gameplay modifiers. Kinda feel like playing a complete monster king and see how long I can keep it together.

I see "Underhanded Tactics" which sounds like what I'm after but it looks like it hasn't been updated in over a year so god knows if it even still works.
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>>158797436
honestly can't even remember what is possible in EU 3

Was cover actions even a thing some support rebels or the like?

You could just war them and occupy to max to make them super pissed off.
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Is Alex Sandro Grandi da Silveira HPM?
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>>158799114
Why did the U.S nuke Nagasaki and Hiroshima instead of Kyoto and Tokyo?
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>>158797205
how'd you civilize so quickly
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>>158799114
I couldn't make landfall on any province without first nuking it, they have enormous stacks on every province and they've almost thrown me back into the sea too many times. Also because I landed on the province I nuked my troops are gaining attrition and not gaining organization quickly.
I did manage to land a second front in Portsmouth, though.
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>>158799781
Because it was their main military installation. In comparison, Manchester is fucking shite.
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>>158799781
I always wondered this
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>>158799781
Hiroshima and Nagasaki had almost all of Japans Christians.
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>>158799595
Ill try the support rebels, but there is no way Ill be able to occupy Ming unless they are bankrupt with max loans when I start. If they can just pour money into constantly making troops in occupied areas then I wont be able to keep that said area.
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>>158800113
It was just considered a larger bomb, they didn't consider the crippling effects of radiation that would continue to this day.
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>>158799781

In a nuclear war military targets are always the first hit.

Here they used the nuke to impress the japs and say "if you don't surrender, that's going to happen to every major city"

also if they had nuked Tokyo, the government would have probably been killed (they didn't know about nukes at the time, they had nothing to protect them against a direct strike), thus no one could have signed a peace treaty.
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>>Alternate Mod List and Useful Resources

>[V2] - Make Liquor Great Again by Liquorlad*°
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>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01*°
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>>[V2] - unHPM v1.5*°
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>>[V2] - 7 Years Mod*°
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

>>[V2] - Vickymod v2.5°
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - New Liangmod*
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>> Updated Waggle Pastebin*°
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB

* The R&I may sperg out if you download this
° Talex and his Grandi Youth may harass you if you download this

Reminder to ignore Talex-aligned shitposters.
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>>158800357
which kinda makes a loop right back into the war.

Either you wait till they hit a lowspot and then capitalize with strategic rebel support or you war them to artificially create the low point
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>>158800523
The only upside is that they have 3 Nomads next to them so they are literally always at war. They never take land too.
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HE IS TRAMPLING OUT THE VINTAGE WHERE THE GRAPES OF WRATH ARE STORED

>>158800113
There are a few reasons.
On the practical side, Nagasaki and Hiroshima were naval bases and industrial centres. Hiroshima itself was a major port that the Japanese were using for sending troops to/from the other fronts as well as the sight of one of the IJN (possible just the armies, not sure off the top of my head) headquarters.

Kyoto actually WAS one of the targets, however many officers who had studied there prewar wanted to preserve the cultural relics of the city, as well as their own attachment. Nagasaki was chosen as a secondary target due to it's industrial output.

Truman noted in his diary:
"This weapon is to be used against Japan between now and August 10th. I have told the Sec. of War, Mr. Stimson, to use it so that military objectives and soldiers and sailors are the target and not women and children. Even if the Japs are savages, ruthless, merciless and fanatic, we as the leader of the world for the common welfare cannot drop that terrible bomb on the old capital [Kyoto] or the new [Tokyo]. He and I are in accord. The target will be a purely military one."
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>>158800435
>(they didn't know about nukes at the time, they had nothing to protect them against a direct strike)
I wonder why the president didn't go into a bunker when we invaded Iraq, seen as we and he obviously genuinely believed Sadaam had WMDs.
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>>158800754

>"he obviously genuinely believed Sadaam had WMDs."
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>>158800676
Can you make Enoch PM? I know Nationalist France can.

>tfw no mosley president and enoch pm
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>>158799781
>>158800113
Age old strategy

You defeat a cornered enemy with minimal losses by leaving an escape open to drive the enemy into a panicked retreat. If you cut away the enemy hope they might instead choose to fight to the death.

Hiroshiman and Nagasaki were still important military targets but they weren't where any of the important figures resided. It shows the Japanese leadership that their defeat is inevitable but preserves the way out with surrendering. If they nuked Tokyo out of the blue they might have catched the high military command and the Emperor which might have beaten the population into fight to the last man frenzy under the surviving administration.


>>158800754
Even if someone actually believed Iraq had WMD's everyone knew they didn't have means to deliver them, bit like North Korea. Even if they have Nukes they don't have missiles or nuclear subs so they can't send them over the pacific
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Get cucked
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>>158801061
The Norks could reasonably hit Seoul. Hell, all it needs is a powerful elastic band. Maybe Tokyo too.
I reckon one day we will see the headline "Japan nuked again."
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>>158801335
Ye but who cares about those guys

Besides Koreans real leaders are far out of nuke range ::^^))
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>>158796528

>The Republic of Ireland has been annexed outright into the United States of America. Bostonians everywhere rejoice.


Keked
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>>158801653
WW3 will start when a falsflag nuke goes off in rural Israel, supposedly launched by Hezbollah. Israel will use this to rek the weakened Syria, Lebanon and Iraq.

Screenshot this meme.
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>>158800879
I'm leaving to go somewhere, I will when I finish this.

I was hoping to get the UoB, Italy, and start on Austria/Ottomemes but I gotta go. The pussy game ridiculous, boys.
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>>158801768
You have an extremely sophisticated sense of humour, and your style of posting, with many spaces proves you're native to 4chan.
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>>158801989
talex
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>>158799781
Tokyo was already being firebombed to fuck.
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Couldn't resist it tbqh

>>158797945
I will, I like to think a successful Tunis would make Malta their Malvinas.

>>158799838
Bureaucrats to 1%, intellectuals to 4%, foreign universities reform first, no extra military reforms at all.
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>>158802998
>I like to think a successful Tunis would make Malta their Malvinas
You mean you won't take it ever?
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How do I go about making semi decent borders in Spain? I only wanted Valencia and Barcelona for the trade power in Genoa but now it looks shit and I want to improve it.
Should I just grab all of the provinces Aragon starts the game with?
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>>158803331
valencia to navarra to girona and give roussilon, provence and Savoie to France
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truly ebin

>>158803235
More like "that couple of islands that have few to do with us historically but are geographically close of us so we have all rights to chimp out over them".
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>>158802998
Is your identity more arab or berber/maghbrebi? Are you oppressing Libya or liberating them?
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>>158803539
What NV did you take?
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>>158803539
What a marvel of modern engineering
Tunisia truly is the face of industry and innovation
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>Rome gets taken over by some viking adventurer
>Pope forced to move to Middlesex in Britannia
What a time to be alive.
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Why cant i prepare invasions or subjugate anyone even if i have the king ambition in hip?
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>>158804112
Holy kek
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>>158804112
>Trolli
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>>158803331
If you take all Aragon provinces, give everything except Valencia and Barcelona to a client nation
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>>158804219
what culture are you?
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>>158803671
Tunisia itself is entirely Maghrebi, with an African (slave descendent) minority and some Sephardic Jews entrenched in the capital. I'd rather think I'm securing them from being yet another share of Africa to be given away to the European powers in the Scramble, but I'm not giving them statehood any soon since they'll have to go through a decade or two experiencing proper education.

>>158803808
Productivity, otherwise I'd never get out of the red.
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Alright, I am the majority, and I'm now in the right.
This sets a nice precedent for EU4.
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>>158804587
norse pagan
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>>158804590
Any plans to form Maghreb union?
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>>158804817

Why should he blob outside of his based Lybia?
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>>158804989
Arabiums must be gross.
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>>158804817
Well Algeria did break away from France via a communist rebellion, but I was actually trying to avoit it until now. Oh well, I'll give the game a break for now, after that I'll decide wether just try to develop my current borders or go full pan-Maghreb.
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>>158805647
I was quoting Oswald Mosley, laddo.
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>>158806063
Optimus Autismus Princeps
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>>158755572
WC as the Roman empire before they added vassal limits and nerfed the fuck out of retinues.

I kind of want to WC in EUIV but I don't have the patience for that shit
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>>158806224
Who? Me or (You)?
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>>158806885
me
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>>158807002
Based. I accept your apology.
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>>158806485
You can turn that shit off now
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>Europe will never have borders this great again
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>>158807763

Make Ireland Independent and give Greece it's greater lands back and it is perfect.
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>>158807763
Literally the only thing wrong with 1914 borders is that Greece doesn't own Constantinople
I'm not even meming here
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>>158807858

>make Ireland independent
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>>158807763
>Make Ireland Independent
Why?
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Allied to Ming. Rate, My tech is up there with Europe due to shitloads of cash+saving cultural until I can spam out 5 star tech advisors. I own 1st place in 6 different trade zones and they can out compete me for some reason. I mean I get down to 0 every once in a while but its worth it.
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>>158807979
>>158807945

Because Ireland is Culturally Different Enough.
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>>158807979
>tfw Finns are the most powerful race in the world
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>>158808115

one thing that EUIII does so much better than EUIV is immersion. it's incredibly easy to get totally sucked into this game.

>>158808183

>national borders should be defined by culture

imagine being this much of a pleb.
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>>158808115
what's with the res

annex manchu pls I hate vassals
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Is there a EU IV drinking game? I have cheap whiskey and a lot of bud and a hankering for historical autism.
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I love it when I get a shitton of money for nothing.
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>>158808307

>The UK is better off having Ireland chimp out in it's Boarders

For what purpose? Just set up home rule and be done with it.
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>>158807763
Not just Europe, anon.
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>>158808242
purest white genes my man
purest white genes
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>>158808453

What are you doing anon?
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>>>/pol/95167865

Is this one of you guys memes? can you take him back please?
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>>158808183
>go home from a hard day of mining coal, as everyone in england does
>eat fish and chips, as everyone in england does
>drink tea, as everyone in england does
>speak English, as everyone in england does
wow yeah i see your point maybe cornwall should be independent too
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>>158808493

s-stop
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>>158808453
What mod?
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>>158808414
>Is there a EU IV drinking game?

I have this Eu4 drinking game.
I drink beer while playing.
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I have secured the Holy Land for the Monothelite faithful, and just in time too.
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>>158808678

>not pushing the cornish boarders to the Rhine
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>>158808904
but I have no beer :(
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>>158808986

Does your Religion have any unique mechanics?
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>>158809016
>your mom will NEVER give you caymenaryal disease
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>>158808542
>>158808739
When the world stopped making sense.

here's a better meme that happened since i set mongols to random

>>158808453
literally right after this, he gave me another one (he wasted his favor on educating my daughter).
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>>158808312
It wouldnt let me post it so I tried making it smaller, then spoiling it, then it worked when I changed the image type but didnt change anything back.

And I will as soon as the truce and 10 year thing come around just got them when Ming was in 7 wars so they couldnt join in.
>>158808307
I actually almost missed work today because of it. It was theres still 10 minutes to get ready, to theres still 5 minutes, til Im 5 minutes late before I got up.
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>>158809218

>7th century AD Mongols

wew.

And who are you playing as?
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>>158809040
Game works with wine and whiskey too.

Never play it high, I do stupid shit and my decision making is awful.
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>>158809491
too late, I'm two shots in and half a bowl. Who do I play as??
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>>158809653
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>158809350
Started as a duke in the northwest.
got a claim on burgundy and eventually became king of that.
now I'm trying to politic my way onto the empire's throne (I managed to get relatives onto the eastern empire before it got mongol'd, they're still ruling as vassals actually).
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>>158809796
>triggered
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>>158809653
Milan
Form Italy and only conquer provinces in the Italian region.
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Got some bad news for ya there, bud.

>>158809075
Monothelite is literally just Orthodox but heresy. Is has an eccumental patriarchy and everything.
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>>158809936
>D00d weedu4 xDxD
This literally isn't the place for you to be a faggot.
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what /gsg/ gets the non-war related stuff right?
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>>158809895

So your plan is to Claim Rome as a German and make it great Again?
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>>158810176
Victoria 2.
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>>158810208
>Mentioning a legal intoxicant that is enjoyed by adults triggers the autist.
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>>158809997

Shame, could be some events to help you convert both Orthodox (once you are the majority) and Monophysite quicker than normal.
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>>158810301

>Alcohol?
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>>158810396
My bad, was meant for >>158810036
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>>158810514

Ah, wasn't sure if you were shitposting or not.
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>tfw find a good font but can't find its name

damn it why
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>>158810208
no, if anything I'm going to remove the german influences (arianism, the emperor being named fucking herbert), and then make rome great again. also should have made it clearer I started as roman cultured.
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>ctrl+f every thread for HPM's tripcode
>nothing for nearly a week or more now

Nice, we finally got rid of liquor memer, great job steamgroup!!1!! I'm so happy that /gsg/ is only for SERIOUS and GOOD mods like robmod!!

Gonna go and post this great news to reddit! xD

/GSG/ is only big enough for ONE mega autist haha!
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>>158810514
>cannabis is absolutely harmless bro lol it only causes psychosis in SOME people, not all of them, lol feel the love
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>>158781076
>>158782930
/gsg/ is mostly teenagers at this point, so no, you aren't going to hear anything intelligent here.
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>>158810778

Jesus, your Emperor is pretty cucked
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>>158810819
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>Ottomemes are allied with the two nations they should hate the most
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>>158810819

Now what?
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>>158810989
In my recent byz campaign, ottos allied hungary in 1445. If that isn't the greatest kind of betrayal I don't know what is.
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>>158811125
>turkic horde allies Turkic horde
I fail to see the relevance.
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>>158810819
>>nothing for nearly a week or more now
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/158469294/#q158585527
He posted here 3 days ago.
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>>158811402
>implying I condone ANY of those things
When your only argument for something is "it's as bad a x" you need to reconsider your support for it.
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this community is dying, se need a new meme right now
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>>158812343

Too late. If my computer still worked I could make a AAR.

Too Late.
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damn it all this is way harder than it needs to be
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>>158754617
>going along, minding my own business
>getting that native kangdum going
>suddenly, GP
t-thanks
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>>158813796
>.gif
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>>158813858
I live in Australia.
Anything else takes 3 minutes to upload
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>>158813918
Do you COME FROM A LAN' DOWNUNDA
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>>158802998
Ottoman enpire tried with strongerpower than na van muster
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Is it impossible to get Mongolia to SP?

This is what I was able to get with normal CB justification.
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>>158814167
You can get them to GP. You need to use your tech advantage HARD though. You can even beat Russia right at the very start if you take Artillery, because 2/30 armies with artillery beat Russian memers, especially if you call China.
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>>158814325
how do you call China if you have to declare war on them to get free?

I've seen some playthroughs on here where people playing as Korea seem to be able to defeat China with only infantry. Does that mean that I should use NF on soldiers and ignore trying to rush university reforms.

The most I was able to get out of a newly civilized Mongolia without expansion was 11 brigades.
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Alright, I basically own the west. Now what.
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>>158813987
Where WE MEN GLO' AN' MEN PLUNDA!
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>>158814554
Use them before you declare independence.
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>>158814751
British Empire 2.0 WHEN?
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>>158814784
Puppets can only declare on their overlord?
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I was observing a game in CK2, bouncing around characters here and there, and I decided to take control of the Byzantine Empire after it got beaten back. I've retaken Constantinople and am poised for a reconquest of Greece and Anatolia.

The twist is that the empire is Jewish. Where should I go from here? Reform the Kingdom of David? Convert to another religion?
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>>158814993
>Ulster
>Alba
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>>158814625
Make Confucius great again
Conquer Jerusalem and bring them your teachings
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>>158814993
Fixed that for you
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>>158815062
>anon really wanted to say las malvinas as well but knew he'd get memed on if he tried
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>>158815016
I believe it's different for substates. I may be wrong.
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>>158815428
Fuck Argies desu, I'm anti-english but more anti-niggers.
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>>158815051
>the twist is that the empire is jewish
how did that happen? was it you or did it happen naturally?

but yeah reconquer all de jure byzantine lands plus israel.
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>>158815073
>blobbing outside of Asia
Dog barked and I realized its 1 AM... Time to sleep
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>>158815619
>I'm anti-english
Why? Don't tell me you fell for the lefty/pol/ memes?
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>>158815829
>lefty/pol/
"no."
I'm Irish
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>>158815676
It was completely natural. No clue when it happened, but when I saw it I couldn't resist.

Everything else is pretty normal when it comes to religion except for Mongols being Buddhist and Seljuks being Sunni heresy.
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>>158816085
>WHITE ONLY
And I'm the one who fell for memes.
Hue-monkeys outnumberyou 5-1 here lad, dont be such a piss-baby
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I'm kind of a noob at EU4. What's the best way to form Italy?
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>>158816406
Pope is best for uniting Italy, if you actually want to be Italy though play milan.
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And here we see the world I am working with.
For some reason Georgia is a vassal of the Byzzies, and Bohemia blobbed like crazy in the HRE, but everything else is to be expected.
I made the Aztecs mesoamerican tech because I want europe to take revenge and colonize them
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>>158815896
>muh rising
You do know the Irish loved the British before the IRA communists took over, right? The Irish fucking cheered in Dublin when we went to put them down. We would have both been better had you stayed.

>muh potatoes
I'm not going to lie, the British government fucked up in this instance. You had a famine, we should have helped, you were part of our country and we made a mistake.

>muh 1789
Funded ENTIRELY by French faggots, more Irish fought for Britain than they did for the Franco-fenian alliance.

>muh cromwell
He didn't do half the shit he's accused of, specifically the "massacres", no population or demographic change occured under him.
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>playing as Florence
>want pope land
>pope is allied to Ferrara and France
>Ferrara is in a trade league, who cares, declare war against Ferrara
>wait until all those microstacks arrive, siege Ferrara and the pope meanwhile
>wait a bit more
>...
>check who I'm in war against, pic related
>BÖAT IST HÄRD, HÄNS NÖT KNÖW HÖW ÜSE BÖAT SCHEEEEEEEEIIIIII-----
My sides went into orbit. I swear, I'm going to mod in slave potato farms that can only be built in provinces with a non-accepted Germanic minority.
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>>158816751
STOP USING UMLAUTS THEY COMPLETELY CHANGE THE SOUND OF THE VOWEL
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>>158816598
Milan? I thought the best one was Savoy?
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>>158815896
t. irelad
>>
>want to play CK2
>dont have the latest DLCs
>favorite mods havent updated to the latest patch yet
Fuck.
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>>158816207
You can blame HPM for that
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>>158816745
>Dublin
West England cheering for England? not surprised lad.

>1798
French fucking with britain has been a thing since both countries inceptions, but im gonna need proof for that "more irishmen" claim

>Cromwell denialism
now I KNOW you're meming

>>158817130
You're not wrong lad, but the "I" has to be capitalized.
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>>158817204
Who do we blame for (You), Rob?
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>>158817260
t. Alex "o Sul é o meu país" Grandi
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>>158817014
>müḧ ẗẅö pöẗäẗöës övër lëẗẗërs!
Who cares.
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>>158817372
Literally who?
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>>158817673
Some random brazilian
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>>158817217
>French fucking with britain has been a thing since both countries inceptions, but im gonna need proof for that "more irishmen" claim
Wikipedia lists 50,000 United Irish and 40,000 loyalist militia, it further lists 25,000 British Army regulars. What's not stated is that the "United Irish" never had that many members and were probably either French mercenaries or just French troops. Furthermore, it's jot unreasonable to assume a large amount of the British Army regulars will have been from Ireland.

>now I KNOW you're meming
They teach you a load of fucking shit about Cromwell. Show me a single town or village depopulated under him. Yes, he killed people, people who rebelled against him. No, there was no genocide.
>>
Reminder that in CK2 if every single one of your rulers doesn't become a saint after death, your a filthy fucking proddie and should be burned at the stake.
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>Hello and welcome back, I am Arumba thank you for joining me.
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>>158818864
>Arumbmeme
>Not watching BASED Synonamess
newfags pls leave.
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>>158810778
>adventurer declares conquest war on empire
>actually gets a decent amount of event troops, might actually be able to beat emperor.
>instead just sits in the bay of venice
wew

>>158810940
he's also bald as fuck and the reason I have so much gold
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>>158817982
Is he a regular here or what? And what has he to do with OSéMP?
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>>158819993

Guess he just likes intimidating people and is hoping people throw shekels at him out of fear.
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>>158819993
Adventurers really need to be able to tell the emperor "hey I want this piece of land if I get it I'll be loyal to you" so you can just not bother with fighting them similar to vassals.
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>>158820009
I don't think he even knows of this place, I doubt he even speaks english.
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>>158820073
Good ole Normandy.
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Well, this game reached the "boring" stage. Can't play it for longe, maybe I will play a Lubeck game now.
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>>158818083

The death toll of the conflict was huge. William Petty, a Cromwellian who conducted the first scientific land and demographic survey of Ireland in the 1650s (the Down Survey), concluded that at least 400,000 people and maybe as many as 620,000 had died in Ireland between 1641 and 1653. The true figure may be lower, but the lowest suggested is about 200,000. At the time, the population of Ireland was only around 1.5 million inhabitants. It is estimated that about two thirds of the deaths were civilian. The Irish defeat led to the mass confiscation of Catholic owned land and the English Protestant domination of Ireland for over two centuries.

Picked this up from wikipedia.

Giving you the benefit of the doubt and lets say it is "only 200,00O killed", that definetly is a lot.

Granted, you are correct that people didn't support the IRA in 1916 at first, BUT you forget the fact that the executions that took place afterwards, plus the failure of home rule led to the independence revolt.
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>>158820263
At least I'm more or less satisfied with the results of my institutions change. Spread is a bit better now and I have a clear technological advantage even over asians. Just need to stop one province tribes in the new world from getting all institutions in the click of a button, who the fuck thought that was a good idea.
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>>158820080
Ah.

I asked because I'm somehow... tied to the movement, and yet I never even heard about this guy.

inb4 just a regular, playing my gaems.
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>>158820419
>Just need to stop one province tribes in the new world from getting all institutions in the click of a button, who the fuck thought that was a good idea.
Elaborate.
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>>158820495
Vocês não são Europeus e nunca serão
Viva o Império, unitário e indivisível
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>>158820419
Whoever changed africa should be fucking shot though. Adding central africa is fucking retarded and leads to the most stupid shit. The provinces in Cameroon and Gabon who were only colonized in the 19th century too, and the eastern coast of africa gets colonized by ethiopia every fucking time.

The game sorely lacks a LR system or the provinces should be removed. Right now colonial competition is non-existent
since there's so many fucking open provinces for colonization that there's absolutely no pressure. Places like cameroon or Gabon should have a minimum LR, it's retarded that I can colonize the places in 1600. Even Malia nd the kingdoms of north africa cause problems because the AI is so keen to blob in these places because they only bring profit whereas IRL a lot of trade posts cost too many money to be worth.

For fucks sake there's still places in the new world for me to colonize if I want to and the castillians colonized almost all of the amazon jungle.
>>
What's the recommended map mod for EU IV?
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>>158820283
>people die in war
Are you meming right now? Nobody said there wasn't a war, people die in every single war or they wouldn't be wars, they'd be violent arguments. Cromwell didn't go genociding round villages pure Arkan style as the Irish schools make out. He fought battles and he won battles, it's a lis that he went round the countryside shooting people for fun.

>Granted, you are correct that people didn't support the IRA in 1916 at first, BUT you forget the fact that the executions that took place afterwards
The punishment for treason was death. It's just a shame de Valera memed his way out of it by being a Seppo.

>plus the failure of home rule led to the independence revolt.
Once again, another myth. That was the same group of German funded rebels that the public didn't support the first time round.
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Ireland should reunite with the UK because Britain needs to be more Catholic
t. plastic paddy
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>>158821031

>War doesn't spill over into Massacres ever

>Cromwell wasn't getting tired of our shit

>The punishment for treason was death. It's just a shame de Valera memed his way out of it by being a Seppo.

And you lost your mandate by choosing Honor over Pragmatism.

>Once again, another myth. That was the same group of German funded rebels that the public didn't support the first time round.

But they won.
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>>158820731
The reform government shit for the natives make a native "country" adopt all institutions a neighboring nation has instantaneously.
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>>158821316

Tbh It is sad watching Ireland get more cucked right as Britain uncucks itself.
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>>158754617
Is there a torrent/download for EU4 Mac?
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>>158820857
>You aren't europeans and you'll never be
Don't you ever get tired of the same old strawman? What has Europe or Europeans to do with this?

>Long live to the Empire, unitary and indivisible
See pic.

Grow up, kid.
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>>158819993
Romuva got reformed.
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>>158821372
>>War doesn't spill over into Massacres ever
>>Cromwell wasn't getting tired of our shit
First off, there were no massacres and there was little shit. Cromwell had no reason to gas the Irish. Even if he did massacre anybody, which he didn't, he wasn't even the legitimate government of the UK.

>And you lost your mandate by choosing Honor over Pragmatism.

It's nothing to do with honour, if you don't follow laws then what's the point in having them? When you start making exceptions the entire system of law breaks down.

>But they won.
They didn't win at all, everybody hated the IRA. That's why they lost the treaty war of '22. The story of Irish independence is similar to that of India and Africa. They took advantage of a war and in doing so made everybody's lives, including their own worse.
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>>158821612
isohunt.bypassed.cc/torrent_details/16868186/Europa-Universalis-IV-Mare-Nostrum-Mac-OSX
You probably won't get the patches beyond 1.17, so RoM won't work even if you download it separately (I'm having the same problem in Linux).
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>>158821786

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Drogheda

>It's nothing to do with honour, if you don't follow laws then what's the point in having them? When you start making exceptions the entire system of law breaks down.

Well they why did you never you honor you treaties with Russia? Your country was called Perfidious Albion for a reason.

>They didn't win at all, everybody hated the IRA. That's why they lost the treaty war of '22. The story of Irish independence is similar to that of India and Africa. They took advantage of a war and in doing so made everybody's lives, including their own worse.

But they won.
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>>158821786
>if you don't follow laws then what's the point in having them?
Forcing the others to follow them.
Welcome to politics.
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>>158822136
Am I better off getting Windows version and Wineskinning it then? That torrent's probably a wrapper so you could just patch it, right?
>>
PERFIDIOUS
ALBION
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>>158822325
The torrent description says it's native, so it's worth a shot.

No idea about Wineskin, to be honest I didn't even try Wine with EU4.
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>>158822425
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=28773

Looks like it works fine. I'll try this torrent and if that fails I'll just use Wine. Thanks!
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>>158822172
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Drogheda
Had they surrendered they wouldn't have been killed. You can't count military sieges as genocide.

>Well they why did you never you honor you treaties with Russia? Your country was called Perfidious Albion for a reason.
Which treaties with Russia did we break?

>But they won.
If you call being an EU puppet winning. Rule Britannia.
>>
CK2 goes strange places on observe.
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>>158824404
I know I attached this the first time.
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>>158821729
I just realized I need to fuck my friend's wife so that half of my realm doesn't get absorbed by a byzantine rump state.
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>>158824564
Do Roman cultures still get a total of ~3000 base heavy infantry from their cultural building?

Last I checked they were ridiculously unbalanced.
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>>158763412
it's great. obviously not worth purchasing at full price, but it's worth enabling
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>>158824529
>non-merchant republic empire
The fuuuuuuck?
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>>158825094
nah, don't think so.

garamantes are still hella OP though.

>>158826119
i still want to be able to play regular republics desu
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So what does HIP do and why is it good?
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I've been attacked by religious reconquests by muslims and catholics many times and this still haven't unlocked.

Is this a known bug?
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>>158826324
It changes all cultures and titles to their native modern languages so you can't understand a thing so you can google the shit and feel smart.
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>>158826119
It turned into a merchant republic when she died, I guess because she was a woman.

No explanation on why a feudal emperor's heir had the republic government type, mind you.
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>>158826324
Nothing, play with CK2+
>>
so I assume everyone turns off conclave? it's a real shame. I like the idea of the council, but the implementation is just so bad and unfun
>>
>>158826570
Fuck no, only people who want to play an easy game turn it off.
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>>158826565
based wiz
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>>158826462
I mean the installer includes the option to disable that and just have everything in english
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>>158826462
But only partially in the native language.
>Kaiser of Heiliges Roemisches Reich
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>>158826657
>do that
>go to jerusalem and see the name of the main holding
Tell me the name of the main holding is in english. Search for "damascus" too and tell me it's in english.
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>>158826607
but it's so bad. sure it makes the game more difficult, but not in a good way. it's just a money sink until you're able to make family members/friends powerful vassals. there are no interesting decisions to be made, it's just oh look the council doesn't like that, who do I have to throw money at to fix this
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>>158826238
aw shit.
also any idea on how to lose chaste?
i need to fuck my friend's wife really quick and I can't pick seduction if I have it.
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>>158826806
It makes diplomatic routes and thinking about your vassals more important rather than the occasional rebellion. You can always take the "party" focus and make friends too.
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>>158826806
I think it's fun when playing as a duke in a elective empire.
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Doesn't get much better than this.
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Which is better for a marathon playthrough?

CK2+ or HIP?


I've heard mixed reports about how well both of them convert to EU4.

Also, i've never actually played EU4, so what should I be keeping in mind when playing CK2+/HIP? What are some pitfalls I should avoid? I'm guessing 'Don't be a landlocked country' is one of them...
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>>158828318
HIP converts fine if you turn off SWMH, but then again SWMH is the best part of the mod. Not sure about CK2+
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>>158828318
get gross in ck2, steamroll over everyone else in eu4.
ck2 is much easier than eu4, tbqhwyf
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>>158828449
>turn off SWMH
Ah fug. CK2+ it is.

>>158828478
I was thinking of going for a Tudor playthrough. Start in Wales and gain the English throne. Eventually forge a British Empire.

What's considered British clay in the middle ages?
>>
I want to try to get into CK2 again. Is Ireland still the recommended starter place, or has that changes with all the dlcs?
>>
I'm starting a game in HPM as Persia, what should be my goal?
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>Manchu not only survives Korea bullying but completely eats them in return
>despite being by far the strongest regional power when Ming collapses they do not take their cores and form Qing
>fucking Shun is going to take China
>that Dai Viet

What an unpleasant surprise this Asia turned out to be.
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>>158829231
selucid empire borders
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>>158828684
If you're going with a native of the Isles, stick with the Isles.

Britain's continental claims come from Frenchmen after all.
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>>158827745
>No colonies
>That line in Bulgaria

Vic2 isnt Eu4 lad
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>>158785068
Liquor is literally useless in every way except giving ind score and making money

Steel is far more useful
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>>158829453
map mod?
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>>158828684
>What's considered British clay in the middle ages?
pic related, limey
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Playing as another German minor besides Brandenburg/Prussia is a lot more fun.

Its annoying though that I have to be an elector or not in the HRE to form Hannover or Westphalia though.
>>
>>158832183
I really enjoy playing as East Frisia for some reason.

East Frisians have the best dialect in the german language and the thought of entire germany speaking with that dialect just tickles my funny bone.
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>>158829453
>DAI VIET
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>>158832183
I would also like to point out how retarded this game is. France is getting eaten by the other major powers and Albania still exists because they allied Austria somehow.

Hungary is Protestant.
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>>158832590
I think that Tyrone owning the entire scottish claymass is more retarded.
>>
>>158832414
Thanks for your input, Gage
>>
Which National Value is the best in HPM? Which one do you choose the most often? I always go for Productivity.
>>
Where exactly I can see the pretender king stats ?
Supposedly it's in stability&expansion tab, but I'm not seeing it there.
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WHY ARE HIS TROOPS ALLOWED TO PASS THIS DOESN"T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE
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>>158833313
Do they have a fort in a neighbouring province resulting in overlapping zones of control?
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>>158833520
no
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>>158828684
>What's considered British clay in the middle ages?

pic-related, limey
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>>158832937
Equality is pretty good if you have shitload of non accepted pops
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>>158833652
I don't know then anon. I've seen the ai ignore forts a few times in the most recent patch myself, but it was only ever single units after all of their own territory was occupied so I didn't pay much attention to it.
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>>158834095
Absolutely nothing
thanks anon
>>
>>158835359
>german map comprehension
no surprise here wew
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>>158835536
But i am not german
>>
>Import cost
Just noticed this for the first time ever on HPM. Does that regard state imports, private imports, or both? If both, then my people on anything other than lazy fair are FUCKED.
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>>158835763
Both. It means more money for you too, but less for pops and less goods for them.
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>>158835827
>It means more money for you too
wait, so it's like a passive tarrif? for example if i have "interventionism" but 0 tarrifs, i am still gonna get tarrif income from the "import cost"?
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>>158836060
Yes.
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>>158836121
god i hate hpm
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>>158836289
haters gonna hate
lovery gonna love
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>>158812343
t. alex but with a new gimmick.
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Why is Saxony literally easy modo?
>>
Is Rob dead? His mod hasn't been updated in months
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>>158836681
t. eu4 player
>>158836883
t. cuck
>>158836289
t. based
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How's it looking?
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>>158754636
Absolutely based.
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>>158837232
thalex
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>>158837104
>that Croatia / Hungary
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>>158836289
>>158836656
>>158837079
>>158837232
>>158837302
t. kidbra falseflag
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>>158837343
thalex
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>>158756601
>Jesuit's ruling South America

Just as God intended.
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>>158837336
It's too late to stop them.
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>that time that Cobrah tried to copy Yung Yohan
Ouch, that was painful
>>
>>158837518
>literally who tried to copy literally who
>>
>>158837518
No one cares about these two
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>>158837549
you think your smart huh you think your really smart huh but can you do this
*makes a triple backflip while brackdancing*
how do you like that sucker!!
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>>158837518
>>158837670
thalex
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>tfw its finally over
had to give all my christian land to vassals because I didn't read it right
The only fun part of this achievement was killing Osman and taking Sicily from France, the rest was just mindless blobbing
>>
>>158838102
Can you unify Islam and then let rebels enforce Christianity?
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>>158838193
You can but I went humanism so they'd never rebel against me anyway
Wish I could have formed Egypt but needed to be arabian for muh coffee
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>>158814625
big koreums await you
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wew
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>>158838656
That's one ugly wife
>>
Does the steamgruppe still play Liqouria 2?
>>
>>158838870
Well, he has a wife
Unlike you, a 20+ yo virgin who will die alone
>>
>>158838656
Maybe he was actually a butcher.
>>
What specs would I need on a laptop to run most Grand strategy games lads?
>>
>>158839481
atleast a decent 2-core cpu (ideally from the i3 series)
7200 rpm hard drive
4gb to 8gb ram
1gb to 2gb gpu with a decent clock speed

remember, newer paradox titles have next to 0 optimization while being constantly given extra dlc features that their engines cannot handle. don't be too dissapointed if ck2 or eu4 cannot play smoothly.
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>>158836681
>becoming emperor when you are a tiny weak nation
>spending all of your diplo relations on sucking off electors for their vote
Enjoy France and Poland eating the HRE
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>>158829453
Disgusting/10
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>tfw can't grow facial hair but want an ebin Willy stache

Why even live?

I'm 19
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>>158842529
We should make a compilation of things like these to warn parents about autism
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r8 Abyssinia blob
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>>158842685
fuck off back to your discord group gruica
>>
I remember having heard of an EUIV mod that let players start in the year 0. Don´t know if it was here. Do you guys know, where I could find it?
>>
>>158842914
Extended timeline?
>>
>>158842914
That wouldn't work well with EU4's engine. It'd probably be a meme mod like Ultimate for V2
>>
>>158842942
Probably. I didn´t remember the name myself.
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>>158842914
why in the world would you ever wish to start at 0
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>>158842665
Yes I am on the autism scale. Problem? My brain (like my Germany) is Groß
>>
>>158843039
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=217416366
>>158843067
Birth of Jesus Christ not start of time
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>>158843190
Year zero isn't birth of Jesus though. In fact there isn't a year zero
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Why do you ebin memers genocide africans instead of conscripting them? Only 10% of my actual population is Portuguese. IF i listened to you memers my army would be 1/10 the size
>>
>>158843237

>the day that god created the earth and the universe
>not year zero

Get a brain you moran
>>
>>158843329
>Anti Colonist Revolt in Mozambique
>Communist Revolt in Angola
>1% Portugese in Colonies
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>>158755819
>playing with defensive pacts on
>historical christian enemies decide to ally against you because you won 1 holy war against arabs
>50 infamy per war as emperor, even if it is just one province in a holy war
weird that no one plays with this shit on
>>
>>158843329
wtf how is 100% of your population soldiers????
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>>158766931
Just found this one, dunno if it gives you inspiration or some shit, hope it helps.
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>>158754636
>mfw R&I desperately tries to take down the 8ch archive but it always gets uploaded back
>>
>>158837104
hit france with a stick and make them stop being autistic in spain
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I've decided to play CK2 again, first time in years. The last addon I bought was The Old Gods

Which of the DLC since then is actually been worth getting?
>>
>>158845152
>there's an archive for me to take down
Thanks for letting me know :^)
>>
>>158845256
pirate everything except "sunset invasion" and "conclave". Play with either CK2+ or with HIP.
>>
>>158845481
Please let R&I handle it sir, it's his job not yours
>>
>>158845715
Why would R&I take down an archive? Last time I was here you guys were memeing about R&I being the archivelad in the first place
>>
>>158845818
because cuckchan is fucking cancer and they deserve to have their shit taken down
>>
>>158845818
It's just a boogeyman, shitposters accuse anyone they don't like of being the same person.
>>
>>158845859
What did they ever do to you lad, why are you so angry

Also checking their /gsg/ board, they're dead anyway
>>
>>158845818
>>158845990
As long as 8ch archive continues to host shitposter mods like Liang or Robmod, they are at war with us.
>>
>>158846004
>>158845152
>8ch archive
>8ch archive
Honestly if you are going to falseflag as someone at least try to make it believable.
>>
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>>158846089
Nice try rob.
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>>158757017
if you are still here, what fucking mod?
>>
Anyone conquer the whole world in CK2 with Horse Lord and India yet ?
I consider do one.
>>
>>158842685
TELL ME
THE
MOD SENPAI
THIS SHIT AINT HPM
>>
>>158846431
Yes it is. It's hpm with gruica's meme shit.
>>
>>158844913
These seem like strange criteria. Sudan is artificial, but South Sudan isn't because it became independent from Sudan? Europeans drew the map, if it wasn't there before the conference of Berlin then it's artificial.
>>
>>158846431
Never doubt Alex's work.
>>
>>158846609
Piss off Rob you already got BTFO now get back to the shitchan you came from.
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>>158846556
is unhpm fun meme shit?
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>>158846779
It's alright
>>
>>158846779
No, it's just meme shit.
>>
>>158846596
exactly why it's partly artificial
>>
>>158846556
>>158846836
Why does it trigger you so badly?
>>
>>158846905
>waahh why don't you like my meme shit?
>>
>>158846836
i like the "install monarchy" casus belli desu
>>
>>158846992
Can I get a serious response? Also I'm not him, stop the boogeyman shitposting.
>>
>>158847040
Sure you aren't, that's why you care so much about why I don't like your meme shit.
>>
>>158847126
I just wanted to know why you don't like it. Also see: >>158845914 and stop fucking shitposting.
>>
>>158847174
Because it's just meme shit. Are you unable do understand english?
>>
>>158847243
Ah, you're just shitposting.
>>
>>158847243
He is a BR monkey

Of course he doesn't understand English
>>
What is best army composition for HPM? I'm new D:
>>
>>158847357
All irregulars
>>
>>158847357
4 inf, 4 art, 1 hussar and 1 engineer lad
works fine for me. late game change hussar to plane and add 2 tanks
>>
>>158847448
fuck you
>>158847380
thanks for a serious answer
>>
>>158847310
What the fuck does Brazil have to do with this you inbred fuck?

And why would any brazilian be up at this time of the day?
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>>158847310
I think he's croatian actually. Lives in Dalmatia.
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>>158847542
Why wouldn't they be up?
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>>158847542
Found the butthurt monkey
lol
>>
>>158847596
>>158847605
Shut the fuck up I am not fucking Brazilian for fucks sake.
>>
>>158847532
rused again
>>
>>158846556
Its HPM with unHPM

People that claim that its "meme shit" never played it and only shitpost about it to derail the thread with drama
Report and Ignore

Check out the pastebin and see for yourself
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx
>>
>>158847643
Of course you are not, my monkey friend
They never say they are
>>
>>158847707
>>158847707
>>158847707
New thread supplied by me (R&I)
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>>158847596
Exactly, it's siesta time.
>>
New Thread
>>158847707
>>158847707
>>158847707
>>158847707
>>
>>158847686
>Its HPM with unHPM
That's exactly what he said, gruica. HPM with gruica's meme shit.

>teutonic order in the 19th century
>not meme shit

Maybe for your literal 14-year-old retarded teenager mind.
>>
>>158847957
Napoopan has the Teutonic Order too tho
>>
>>158848015
Napoopan is an alt history mod. How fucking dumb can you be?
>>
>>158848116
Victoria 2 is alt his too if you ask me
Its not really historical if you think that the Taiping can win, or that America can conquer all of Mexico and assimilate it completely
>>
>>158848208
>I don't think Taiping could win even though they almost did.
>Therefore the teutotnic order makes so much sense.
>>
>>158848279
Vic2 isnt a historical simulator
There would be no point except education to play it if it was 100% accurate
>>
>>158848469
Well at least you answered the "how fucking dumb can you be?" question. The answer is: as much as I can imagine.
>>
>>158848116
>alt his mod
>the only change being Napoopan winning
>litteraly 10 years before Vic2 time frame
I dont see the point of this argument
>>
>>158848279
shud htre fug up unhpm is fun
>>
>>158848590
It's still alt history, justifying retarded shit like the teutonic order because alt history mods did it is almost as dumb as actually doing the retarded shit.
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>>158848761
Why the fuck does it bother you so much you lifeless autist? Who gives a shit if there are some retarded meme countries, you and the other HPMtards ruined this general with their historical autism. Talk shit about the mod because the modder is a fucking underage shitposter and stole everything from other mods, not because you gets triggered by anything that isnt historical.
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>>158849192
>my mod isn't meme shit
>here's the meme shit
>wow who cares read my autitist butthurt rant
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>>158845531
What's wrong with Conclave?
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>>158854229
Some scrubs don't like their game to be harder.
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