/twg/ - Total War General

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It is now September. With the end of the summer months, The sallow season begins. Ros-fothar in the tongue of the Asrai, it is a time of waning. The Consort-King Orion weakens and rages against his fate, destined to be immolated on the pyre in the coming months. The forest undergoes a change of color from the vibrant hues of summer to more subdued and mottled shades of Autumn.

But if it is a time of waning, so too is it a time of harvest. The bounty of the forest hangs ripely, to be plucked effortlesly by the merry wanderers of its vales and meadows. How fitting, then, that in this, the first month of the season of harvest, the Wood Elves will make a bounteous gift of themselves, the latest and greatest of the factions to be released in Total War: Warhammer.

Wood Elves soon.

>>154822743
>Beastmen

Discuss

>no /twg/ for 40 min

>dead general

>>154822953
Ungor raider seem quite strong. 160 skirmishers in one unit is pretty fucking devestating.

We need a proper system for making a new one. I would have made one but I passed out from hyperventilation while we were dead.

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Which province in the empire should i play /twg/?

>>154822940
I want to bang those sisters

>>154822953
Minotaurs are the strongest unit in the game

>>154823248
Don't they lose to Blood Knights? I seem to remember GW minotaurs are about equal to Halberd demis.

>>154823213
The black-haired one is a ladylike waifu who says "Ara Ara!" and drinks tea slowly.

The white haired one is a lewd and indecent woman who shocks the sensibilities of those around her.

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Constant Drachenfels legendary lord when?

>you will never ride with attila and his million warriors
>you will never bring the end of days
>you will never be the scourge of rome
>you will never watch their world burn
why even live?

wew it was time someone made a new thread, I was starting to tear up

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>>154823248

>>154823416
>You will never lose to last Roman Flavius Aetius

>>154823416
>why even live?
To browse dank memes

>>154822940
Worst elves soon.

In the lore who is the most powerful between welfs, delfs and helfs?

>>154823393
That is accurate description of Naestra and Arahan.

>>154822743
WOOD ELVES ARE OUT

http://store.steampowered.com/app/382910/

>>154823407
>gw replaced drachenfels with nagash as the supreme undead lord because reasons

>>154823750
>>154823750
Why is literally every roman "the last roman"

>>154824806
>No female wardancers when fisr game had them.
I think Space Hulk is going to be trashy as well.

>>154824806
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/382910/

>mixed reviews

Confirmed

>>154824974
Only last badass general of Western Empire should be.

>>154824974
>there will never be a movie call The last roman staring Tom Cruise and Titus Pullo having a bromance while getting mowed down by hunnic horse archers

Lore of metal and heaven need some buffs.

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The 2nd expansion will move the game into the End Times.

>>154825145
Quite a lot of magic needs buffs (and maybe a reworking of the way magic works in general but that's another topic)

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>154825145
Heavens at leaststands a chance of getting a buff when Bretonnians are released.

>>154824476
The High Elves are almost certainly the most powerful, because they have global commitments and a far-flung system of outposts and struggle against Chaos but still manage to repel the Dark Elves, for whom crushing the High Elves is foreign policy #1.

Wood Elves aren't as populous as Naggaroth or Ulthuan, but their population is also the only one not shrinking. They don't really do power projection, so it's hard to say how powerful they are, except that nobody can pry them out of their NEET paradise.

>>154825172
The 2nd expansion will move me into my grave

>>154825145
Will never happen until they fix/replace the underlying magic system.

Tonight is crucial

>>154824476
Probs helfs.
Delfs give 'em hell tho.

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>>154825547
>mfw Malekith has gotten more elves killed than all demon/chaos invasions combined
I wonder what Aenarion would think.

>>154823150
None of them
Khazukan Kazakit-ha

>>154825496
But they showed that they can do something by nerfing the spells that were way too powerful (devolve). Other lores like the Orc ones are perfectly fine as well.

>>154824974

It's a sign of prestige so people have looked for it throughout the centuries

Fuck there are people that weren't even roman that got called last roman

>>154823361
>>154823675
Vs large they suck and bloodknights at full charge are probably more devastating, but as far as winning battles dropping two units into a full line of infantry, they utterly devastate the entire enemy player or computers main line, and break through to skirmishers 75% of the time. Dragon ogres dont have nearly the charge penetration or splash damage.

>>154825671
Some spells are easy to adjust, but all AoE explosion spells with knockback are fundamentally fucked. It's really easy to see if you take a look at how they're implemented in the DB.

>>154824974
The only ones I can think of are Cato the Elder, Stilicho, and Belisarius

>>154825901
>not using trollhammer torpedoes
>nice b8 m8

>>154825897
>Stilicho
>Roman

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>154826018
At that point the Romans werent even Romans.

>>154826018
>half roman,half vandal
>served rome till death
and he would of saved her too if it wasn't for that meddling little shit

>>154825786

minotaurs with great weapons are also vs large lad

>>154826297
I still wouldnt waste them vs dragon ogres, armored trolls, arachnaroks, giants, chaos spawn, steam tank as long as there were skirmishers and any infantry units.

Let the big ones succumb to losses

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>For the Lord, our Savior!

>>154823150
Nordland

>>154826650
(You)

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Is it possible somehow to decrease the immigrant population of my settlements? Shit is causing me some serious public order problems.

>>154823150
What mod do you use

OFFICIAL UNOFFICIAL 2016 TOP 10 WARHAMMER RACE POWER RANKINGS

1. The Empire
2. Amazonians
3. Dragons
4. Chinese
5. Khorne
7. Shitposting
T8. Jabberslythe
T8. Charlemagne
9. Savage Orcs
10. G O B L I N S

>>154826815
Tax the shit out of them.

>>154826815
Its easy, all you have to do is
Play as the Romans you fucking barbarian

>>154823150
Wissenland is super comfy.

Until the mountain faggots just randomly declare war on you.

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DO YOU ENJOY UNCONQUERED SEX?

YES, I LOVE UNCONQUERED WESSEX.

>>154826875
Just the basic empire faction unlocker

>>154826815
build a wall

>>154826650
>HEAVEN CAN WAIT!

>>154826815
stop all the sacking, razing and raiding in the nearby provinces, it greatly boosts immigration

also build some taverns

Why aren't all of the Imperial Provinces visible on the campaign map when you start an Empire campaign?

Is Hochland top secret inna woods or something?

>>154828023
I wonder how taverns help with immigration unrest. Do they work like old timey job centers just like dnd told me?

>>154828349
maybe the idea is that people socialize and get drunk there, and drunk people just dont give a shit?

>ancient empires still not released

>>154828684
14 days

>>154828684
>wood elves still not released

>>154825463
>still manage to repel the Dark Elves

What do you expect from GW? For them to take over Ulthuan? Of course they are doomed to fail.

Praise Gav "We make up the number of elves to suit the story" Thorpe, the colossal cock gobbler.

>>154828592
In my experience a significant amount of drunk people cause way more trouble than when sober. More than enough to make up for the mellow and sad drunks causing less trouble.

>>154828684
I want the DarthMod dude to release info on his new project. Gettysburg UG with a strategy map would be sick.

deep thinking goblin

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>>154828804
>We make up the number of elves to suit the story

They do this in 40K too, especially when they want to be all ~grimdark~.

>A-AND THEN UMMM KILLA SMASHDICK DA BIG WAAAGH BOSS FARTED A-A-AND KILLED A MILLION TRILLION BILLION GUARDSMEN
>[SMASHES TOYS TOGETHER AND MAKES EXPLOSION SOUNDS]
>Excellent work Matt, this will be our best selling book from the Black Library yet!

Apparently Dwarfs and Elves don't fuck or lay eggs or whatever so they're races are ~dwindling~ but not dwindling enough that they don't die by the tens of thousand in battles. I swear it's the most contrived element in the whole of WHFB.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>154829006
It would be cool, but he should make elevation info easier to see. It was really annoying to set up cannons in what looked like a good position, only to find out it was slightly off and completely ineffective.

>>154825463
>>154828804
High Elves are supposed to be Victorian Britain, Bretonnia is Norman Britain, Albion is pre-Roman Britain

Why are there so many Britains in Warhammer?

>>154829623
This was also in Starcraft

I remember being 12 or something and reading the manual which went "AND 70% OF AIUR'S POPULATION WAS WIPED OUT BY THE ZERG"

The Protoss are dying out and their homeworld is ruined, but somehow there are always more of them

>>154829718
Because GW is english.

>>154829623
>contrived

No shit the whole setting is filled with contrivances and stupid bullshit. It's why I was excited for the End Times and ultimately, massively let down by said End Times because like an idiot I trusted GW to not fuck something up.

>>154829718
GW is a UK company and WHFB was first made back in the 80's, so small things like the world being literally Earth with a few continents moved around a bit wasn't that big a deal.

>>154829623
Dwindling is a relative term

If there are 50 million elves in the warhammer world but there used to be 150 million during the height of the elven empire then they have definitely dwindled

>>154822743
Atilla charges still suck dragon orge dick?

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Russia

>>154829897
It was "literally earth" because Tolkein did it too.

>>154829718
>both 40k and Fantasy mainly focus on how everything has gone to shit and there's no hope for the future

The writers at GW just opened their eyes and saw what was happening to England. It was a good inspiration.

>>154829623
>>154829812

>Warhammer
>Starcraft

Poorly written backstory created as an after thoughts around game mechanics are bad? Wow who would have thought. But then again I guess it be hard to make something interesting around:

>war/genocide kills fuckton of [race]
>book/game/movie has to wait 1 to 3 generations for the population to recover
>by then old wounds have healed and former enemies are now friends
>roll credits

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>>154828802
Soon.

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i hope the darthmod guy makes a game about spanish civil war someday
either the first or the second
the second was probably the biggest interwar war in Europe and if the fascist didnt win the start of WW2 might have been delayed a few years

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>>154829981
It's called Kislev and they ride bears

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>>154829946
>muh charges
please kill yourself

>>154822940
Oiling the chains, mass producing ropes and erotic herbs. As the beast are ready for Elven humiliation.

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>>154830391
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Cavalry Charges"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>154830239
>"""""""bears"""""""

What are the odds of the next historic TW title having a full world map?

>>154830538
Exactly tree fiddy

>>154830538

>total war
>not European Map Painting Simulator

lol have fun fighting over Europe for the 8th time

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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?

>>154830778

Never ever

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>>154830538
Only if its empire 2

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G O B L I N S

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>>154830935
EMPIRE 2 FUCKING WHEN?!

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>>154830538
Best would be Africa Total War: The Great War of Africa

>All skirmisher units
>Melee Mobs with machetes
>Unarmed Civilian units to protect/embezzle from
>Raze villages/raid to recruit
>Fund your diamond mines by "corvee manpower" from razing
>Ebola event
>Arms dealer like the Beastmen moon event
>Create-a-faction the national liberation front for the creation of an independent Congo-Rwanda
>Deeply cynical trait system
>Sexually assault to fuel morale like in beasts of no nation
>"spells" can be african blood rituals and distributing coke and amphetamines to your child soldier.

Would be awesome

>>154831072
never ever

never ever ever

>make a game with AI so fundamentally broken that simple fences can bring a battle to a halt
>blame user interest for poor sales

New hotfix notes up on CA's facebook.

>>154831469
>Fixed a crash in Thorgrim’s Great Book of Grudges Quest Battle. • Regiment of Renown units will now benefit from Technology and Lord bonuses in The Grim & The Grave DLC.

>Fixed an animation bug where Free Company Militia didn’t play walking animations while idle during melee combat during battles.

>The Flagellants strength of the Penitent skill is now visible in Campaign.

>Regiments of Renown now have Rank 9 on their unit cards to more clearly indicate their power.

>>154831562
>Regiment of Renown units will now benefit from Technology and Lord bonuses in The Grim & The Grave DLC
Thank god. It was really stupid how they could end up worse than their normal counterparts.

>>154831562
>>Regiments of Renown now have Rank 9 on their unit cards to more clearly indicate their power.
But they are roughly as powerful as a rank 9 anyways. Is that intentional?

>tfw chaos campaign

its so fucking bad. the infighting attrition, is that from pen and paper?

>>154831763

Nope.

>>154831763
It's to prevent you from going around in a huge death-ball of hordes. Attila has it with food as well. All you need to do is git gud.

>>154831763
It's not, in the lore Chaos is known to have a lot of infighting, though thats more faction based than "HURR TOO MANY ARMIES".

Also I thought the whole point of the horde attrition was to help make them not steam roll everything But then they remove it from Beastmen, give them hordes, and the Chaos AI doesn't suffer from it because they couldn't get the AI to understand it.

They really need to just remove it as a factor it's so pointless.

>>154832739
Are there any mods to remove it and give them the beastmen style looting? Pretty sure those two things together would at least add to enjoyment

>>154832739
They shouldn't remove it. It's a great filter to see if people suck at hordes. Beastmen are literally babby-mode, and this is coming from someone who enjoyed them.

Looks like the teaser will be Tuesday, A reveal on Thursday and release on the 6th.

At least I have Third Age:Divide and Conquer 1.1 for my mainly ranged military needs.

>>154833003
There's still a chance for a September release if there's a teaser tomorrow. It does look pretty bad though, Beastmen already had a teaser by now.

>>154832976
>beastmen style looting
Why would you want that?! It's a worse option. Early game you want the strongest horde to sack, and then a weaker horde comes along to raze for growth, experience and some extra battle loot. Late game it doesn't matter; you have so much money you hardly need to sack anything but the juiciest prices anyway.

>>154833252
i never thought of that, i just wanted it handled in one turn.

>>154833003
What are you talking about member of my familia?

>>154831680
people wre complaining RoR weren't getting experience,CA consider them already rank 9,so now they clearly indicate that

>>154833003
>>154833225
>grimgrave was pushed back a week because they wanted extra time to work on welfs

At last I truly see

>>154833003
where did you get this information from friendo?

>>154833971
His ass, but it seems plausible if they don't release a trailer today

>>154834040
They should release teaser image before week or so of trailer.

>be poorfag with ancient laptop
>love warhammer fantasy ever since the 90s TT boom
>watch youtube let's players as consolation for shitty laptop
>they lower the ingame sound to nothing, can't win without cheating with the camera settings, take no notice of the art assets and have to take every macrostrategic decision by committee (that is, be warned off mistakes they'd otherwise make by their viewership)

Why are TW letsplayers such a horrible breed? Is it the years of overexposure to samey or bogus 'historical' TW content that has made them into self-absorbed plebs whose only form of self-validation seems to come from winning rigged battles in TW before thousands of people?

>cheating with the camera settings
Like pausing and stuff?
I cant do any TWW battles without pausing, its to fast4me.Any other total war im fine without it tho

>>154834898
I find myself having to pause a lot because I'm playing on a laptop with integrated graphics and a lot of the time it starts to lag while playing which makes it difficult to get my troops where they need to be

>>154834898
I've found that it's almost impossible to cast a single target spell on a lord, hero or monster in the middle of a large blob without pausing. Other than that it's mostly fine for me.

>>154834898
I only pausescum if Im dealing with particularly large armies.

>>154829718
High Elves are arrogant cunts with bases all over the world who stage interventions everywhere and repeatedly save the world from Chaos invasions. And they ride eagles into battle. High Elves are clearly Americans.

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>forest battle

>>154835867

hold space
hide foliage

done

>>154829981

>Accordion playing ork

>>154832980
It's not really a hindrance though, like you can still gang band armies/cities you just need to move your armies far enough apart afterwords or just eat the attrition.

All it's really doing is adding some minor tedium. I'm not against the idea but they need to do more with it to make it something actually interesting to deal with.

>>154831469
>""""""""""new""""""""""

>>154834898
I only really need to slow things down. Doesn't help Warhammer plays like it's got ADHD

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>>154835867
>winter battle

Can I pirate the DLC for Warhammer?

I have the game on Steam.

>>154835759
You realize that America "inherited" the mantle of world police from Britain after WWII right? That it was Britain which stuck its nose into everyone's affairs and tried to keep the European nations in check before the USA was ever relevant to anything? And they invented the Anglo idea of having a fuckhuge navy.

>>154836615

>Anglo idea of having a fuckhuge navy

Why are brits so fucking retarded? Honest question.

>>154836205
The primary problem with chaos warriors is that you're clearly set up so that the Norscans are supposed to get subjugated and become your ravening anarchic army of the end of the world since you can only really field 3 full stacks before you're spending too much money each turn on upkeep but the way the current mechanics work is that as soon as you awaken+subjugate the cunts everyone wants to fuck them up, which forces you to waste time protecting them

>>154836665
inbreeding

>>154836665
I'm not even sure how to respond to this post

You realize having a fuckhuge navy has been British military policy for 400 years right? Also virtually every colony founded by the British takes after the "island" strategy- Aus, NZ which are actual islands and then the US and Canada which are in North America and isolated by the ocean from any nation which could actually fuck with them (except Canada in the event the USA decides it doesn't want a hat anymore)

>>154836837

No I was asking why are brits so fucking retarded, I wasn't asking you to explain your retarded post.

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>Start a new campaign in Attila as Burgundians
>After conquering a couple of settlements i decide to become the Jews of the Baltic Sea
>Focus on economy, bribe all my neighbours for trade rights and non-aggression pacts
>In my previous campaigns i usually just end up fighting the Huns as soon as they come near me
>This time i have money on my side
>The Huns show up and start rampaging near my borders destroying a few of my trade partners in the process
>I toss money at them and marry one of my less useful daughters to them in return for a non-aggression pact
>The Huns turn away and start heading towards Italy. The plan was a success
>A few years pass. Things are good when suddenly 2 Hunnic half stacks show up and start raiding my lands
>Declare war on the Huns and bribe my trading partners to also attack them
>Wipe out the half stacks. Huns come begging me for a peace treaty
>Agree for now since i really can't be bothered to deal with the endless stackspam
>Instead of leaving, the Huns park 4 stacks right next to my capital and put them on raid stance
>"Oh for fucks sake."
>I quickly raise as many armies as my income allows and start another war with them again in order to drive off the stacks
>The Huns manage to raze my capital before i drive them back
>Get bogged down to a war with the Huns for another 15 years since they can't be destroyed before Attila comes of Age


Fucking Huns. Never trust them. Never even negotiate with them.

>>154836615

The brits didn't act as world police, they just tipped the scale whenever there was a war to be had against france and after Prussia took the mantle of most powerful european country, against Germany.

That was because they were under a serious, concrete threat of being invaded again by an european power since William the conqueror, first with the spanish then with the French.

America doesn't do it because of a threat to itself, America has enough nukes to send back to the stone age any country in the world and an ocean, not a strait between them and the next great power.

Also the notion that the british invented the idea of naval superiority is laughable.

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>>154835867
>ForestBattles.ppt

>>154837071
You need to point them at an enemy to distract them. Preferably one strong enough that they'll get their nose severely bloodied.

VAMPIRE-CHAN

Fall of the eagles?

More like FAGGOT EATERS LOL

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>>154835867
>It's a "5 full stacks battle in a narrow hilly forest map at night" episode

>>154836615
But do Brits ride eagles into battle? Now shut your mouth filthy Old World, if it weren't for us you'd be speaking the Dark Tongue right now.

>>154835867
Seriously 2/3 battles in Empire provinces and Kislev are fucking forest battles,and forest takes almost whole battle map sometimes.

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>>154836462
every fucking time

>>154829623
They actually "explained" it - apparently HElves get all sentimental before war and they fuck like rabbits so they have population spikes during war times.

>>154836991
>I don't know shit about history, so you're the retarded one!

I'm not even British you faggot

>>154837170
>Also the notion that the british invented the idea of naval superiority is laughable.

That isn't what I said

>America doesn't do it because of a threat to itself, America has enough nukes to send back to the stone age any country in the world and an ocean, not a strait between them and the next great power.

Yes, MAD is totally America's main defensive policy. That's also why the Chinese aren't building up a navy, because their first impulse would be to launch a nuclear salvo at America during a war rather than attempting to keep a hypothetical war conventional.

>>154836462
I hate it when it's snowing and when enemy is hidden for a lot longer in the snow.

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>>154838304
VAMPIRE CHAN

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>>154822743
it's not fucking fair. tw has been my favorite series since i discovered computer gaming. but i just can't fucking enjoy the last titles. no matter how hard i try, i just can't.

>ugly user interface on every aspect of the game
>weird ass ranged unit animation that just feels wrong
>graphics less aesthetically pleasing than medieval fucking 2
>small things like not being able to move troops without a general or being able to create transports by right clicking on the sea
>HUGE ASS UGLY MAP, CITIES COVER 25% OF IT
>graphics feel gloomy and void of life in general, in contrast with titles like shogun 2 or even rome 1
>have a good rig but game never runs 60> fps unless i go low/medium settings

did i mention how cancerous the new ui is?
same though, since you guys seem to be enjoying the fuck out of attila.

>>154838787
>high elf men are afraid of dying as virgins

>>154839214
>graphics feel gloomy and void of life in general, in contrast with titles like shogun 2 or even rome 1
>have a good rig but game never runs 60> fps unless i go low/medium settings
sounds like you are trying to play them on a toaster
having high fps is crucial for battle controls and enjoyment

>>154839214
Agree with all points.

But come on man, Ashilla ain't that bad compared to Empire or Rome 2.

>>154839214
Medieval 2 has ugly graphics though

>not being able to move troops without a general

This is a good thing though

>ugly cities cover it

Not in WTW, the cities are surprisingly small

>graphics feel gloomy and void of life

Not sure what you're seeing in WTW that makes you think that

>ugly user interface

I guess if you didn't like Rome 2's you'd have the same overall opinion of WTW's

>ranged unit

I've never spent any time bothering to focus on the unit animations during battles so that sounds like a "you" problem

>computer slow or something

WTW is supposed to be the most optimized so if you're still getting bad performance I don't know what to tell you

>>154839365
by gloomy i mean on colors. maybe it's just my opinion, but rome 1 feels much more colorful and "alive" even though it has inferior graphics than rome 2 and its' expansion.

i5 4460* (i think)
8gb ram
r9 290x 2gb, updated
this is my rig. can easily run shogun 2 ultra. i think it's just bad optimization on the game's behalf. if you have any optimization/performance tips, by all means share them.

>>154839775

The older games were cartoony as fuck with bright pink soldiers.

What you're thinking of are real colors, not gloomy.

>>154838746
Where's your mortis engine?

>>154839508
sorry for not mentioning it, by latest titles i meant r2 and attila. i didn't bother with wtw since the setting/plot does not interest me, so my critique has few things to do with it.

>>154839214
>weird ass ranged unit animation that just feels wrong
please, before attila they didnt even have bowstring

>>154839214
>Medieval 2 ui
>good

The campaign one is especially ugly.

>>154839508
>not being able to move troops without a general
I will happily defend Atilla and Warham merchant, but this particular aspect of the newer games doesn't really have any upsides for gameplay ( especially in Warhammer where characters level up rather than armies).

>>154839974

What are you talking about? You don't want to open 20 windows to check something trivial?

>>154839837
This desu, I like being the Aedui in the dank forests of Gaul

>>154839989
I have never heard of a roman army moving without a general

>>154838746

What hero is that in the portrait?

>>154839989
In Rome 1 I always liked that cities were shit without a governing character so an expansion of that system to apply to armies doesn't bother me much

>>154839861
I don't think I had it unlocked at that point, I also didn't know how good it is, this game was played like 1 day after update. I don't like playing VC anyways, I can't believe how much I struggled against main chaos stacks.

>>154840147
Helman Ghorst I believe

>>154839989
its done to prevent the AI from fracturing its army into a million halfstacks which enables the player to easily roll over any faction with just 1-2 full stacks

>>154839214
The old UI was fucking atrocious. Just look at the image you posted; it takes up the entire bottom 1/5th of the screen. The new UI is cleaner while also being a lot more functional.

>>154840174
How did you struggle? You have every tool you need to kick their ass. The flying units are especially a good asset against chaos. As for the mortis engine it's pretty much mandatory. Really durable, causes terror and drains hp. As a bonus it's one of the best looking and sounding units in the game.

>>154840342
>want to play some nappy
>remember those 1 unit ministacks constantly running around pillaging everything
nope

>>154840482
it made those titles easy too, since the AI never has a proper concentration of forces

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>>154839837
this is an example. note that i am not trying to nitpick or something.

shogun 2 in terms of colors is a solid 10/10. vegetation and castles are comfy as fuck to look at, soldiers are also looking awesome, without being flashy at all, and the contrast that all the colors make with the sky always leads in something pleasant to watch.

r2 and attila ALWAYS have a weird dark feeling. like it's always fucking sunset/sunrise. even if it is broad daylight, it still doesn't feel normal. tl;dr playing them makes me fucking sleepy. maybe it's just my autism.

>>154840482
It was useful for splitting off some cav to raid and clean up a retreating battered army. I'd like it to return if only they can make the AI keep such detachments stay close to their main army.

>>154840664

>r2 and attila ALWAYS have a weird dark feeling.

You literally have a pic of Attila in the OP not being like that

How about you kill yourself and rid us of your stupidity instead.

>>154840342
They should have just tried to fix the ai in that case, then, since changing that has lead to a lot of changes in other systems (like how garrisons work and how debilitating agent spam can be)

>>154840741
>t. total war development team
fuck off i'm pirating all your shit from now on

>>154840861
>gets proven wrong
>sh-shill!

Pathetic

>>154840741
i hope you are funposting. the only thing that cannot be described as "brown" are the shirts of the soldiers and MAYBE the fires. everything else is a fucking shade of brown.

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>can't deploy skirmishers ahead of my lines because i have to pull them back and be useless after 1 volley
>can't make gaps in my line for chariots and elephants to pass through
>can't force ranged unit to not FF for both AI and my own units
>men getting up from knockback after getting hit by a flaming 500 kg rock

FIX IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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>>154840473
>How did you struggle?
My main stacks were mostly grave guards with some cavalry and support units, vargheist too but not always. My compositions were a bit of a mess since I was playing a very fast expansion game (basically controlling most of Empire by turn 50, around 8 full provinces)

Grave guards seemed to do absolutely no damage against chosen, and were getting completely destroyed very fast
For some reason, it took forever for vargheists to take out chaos cannons, which were always protected by some halberds or chaos knights, and if left alone would completely wreck my infantry
The only unit that seemed to do decent against chaos was blood knight, but I didn't have many of those and they still took a very long time to kill or break chosen infantry (playing on VH, so they basically fight to the last man)

pic semi related, it's Mannlet von Carstein against a chaos stack led by some random centaur

>>154840972
nigga must think that the fires in the background or the shiny helmets make this diarrhea painting "colorful"

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>>154840664
>r2 and attila ALWAYS have a weird dark feeling
lies, even r2 looks bright and colourful in spring and autumn

and this pic is attila

>>154840741
You can't be fucking serious. The Attila pic is 50 shades of brown.

>>154840972
Are you incapable of reading? He said the image in the OP, not the cherry picked image from the nostalgiafag.

>>154841208
he was talking about the image in the OP you dumbfucks, not the image from the post

>>154840748
>like how garrisons work
this is a positive improvement too because in earlier titles the AI had like 2-3 units in a garrison which made it very easy to rush someones country or even just send 2-3 high rank spies and cause a chain of rebellions

>>154841275

They look perfectly fine and realistic, as opposed to bright pink puke in RTW and shogun 2

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>>154840950
He's a TWW extreme example for you. Do you get the point now? R2 and Attila have the same thing just not as fucked yet still annoying for people who aren't color blind.

>>154841178
>random centaur

Is sarcasm yes? Kholek was 8 levels higher than you.

>>154841330
50 shades of brown with a blue sky behind?

>>154841370
Make the AI better at garrisoning its settlements, then? The current system is fine is practice but it's lacking some variety.

>>154841519
>>154841585
explain this pic then>>154841229

>>154841330
>S2 was only out in 2011
>nostalgiafag

???

>>154841178
Vargheists are mostly for keeping cannons busy until your cav gets there. Shielded grave guard are pointless because they do little damage and chaos has no missiles. Ghouls and spear skellies are worthless and should be replaced by wraiths against chaos. Basic knights are also not good enough. You should at least bring lances, and preferably blood knights. You can easily make a battle site that will let you spawn them before chaos arrives. If you do all that your line should hold and your cav should sweep theirs and then get to cycle charge their chosen as much as you want to.

>>154841549
>Is sarcasm yes? Kholek was 8 levels higher than you.
it was my attempt at a joke

Yes, he is higher level because Mannfred wasn't even my secondary lord, I started with Vlad

>>154841657

The cherrypicked Attila pick, when the OP pic literally proves it wrong

No one cares about the Shogun 2 pic, it looks like puke

>>154822743
In for Med 2 and Attila being the best games in the series.

Warhammer map is meme sized.

How does anti-large damage work in TWW? I noticed Ungrim has an upgrade that gives him +15 damage vs large. Does that just add 15 damage to his weapon strength when fighting large? His strength is like 400 something already 15 extra is fuck all

>>154841519
Your cherrypicking is meaningless when I can just scroll through this very thread and find a dozen examples that don't fit your bullshit argument.

>>154841178
map?

>savescumming like a faggot

>>154841830
pretty much what you said, +15 damage points against large targets

>>154841830
Yeah those +15 is pointless, a lot of the lord stat upgrades are. It's why I think red skills are severely underrated. Why increase a lord stat by a few % when you can increase two stats for all your infantry by 30-50%?

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>>154841794
>Warhammer map is meme sized.
thats my big problem with warham it feels tiny

>>154841704
I didn't really have the luxury of fielding all-elite armies, I was horribly overxtended and had to keep fighting back a very strong 30 province Dwarfs that kept sending doomstack after doomstack from the south.

>>154841847
It's an old screenshot, I finished that campaign weeks ago

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>wood elves
>warhawk riders
>FLYING skirmisher cav

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>>154841651
R2 was the lesser evil. It had more weather settings that weren't terrible. Attila is also fine sometimes. I don't know that anons settings though. Here's a bleak and meh picture.

For every battle it's basically a lottery whether the weather makes the graphics good or fucking terrible. I think Shogun 2 had the best colors overall. It was vibrant without looking like a cartoon. TWW is okay when the sunlight is just right, but often it's pretty fucking abysmal too.

>>154842096
That's why you don't overextend. Vamps are perfect for sitting in Sylvania, swimming in dosh from Castle Drakenhof, and fielding elite armies while slowly and steadily expanding.

>>154842320
I did that on my first VC legendary playthrough, it's a terribly boring approach as you spend most of your time just building stuff and clicking next turn button.
Doing an all-out rush on the Empire right from the start was much more fun

>>154842275
Attila does that on purpose in Euro lands, the whole apocalypse theme, battles in NA and ME look fine, especially in spring

>>154841754
I was saying that being nostalgic for a game that's only 5 years old is weird

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>>154841840
>Your cherrypicking is meaningless
People are cherrypicking their best screenshots to post anon. They don't post shit screenshot, they post their best. Besides I think you have me mixed up with someone else, i joined mid conversation.

Attila is my favorite TW, but it's lighting and colors are often bleak and dead and aren't visually pleasing if you're not under the perfect circumstances.

Here's a good example. Clear colors. Nice.

>>154842556
You can spice it up a lot with tactical spreading of corruption and blitz attacks.

>>154842082
GUESS YOU'LL HAVE TO BUY THE TOMB KANGS, CHAOS DORFS, OGRE KINGDOMS AND NEW WORLD DLCS TO MAKE THE MAP BIGGER

That will be 100 dollars for all those DLCs, please

>>154842558
Alright then that's what i'm talking about. TWW does the same thing when Chaos or Beastmen attacks settlements. It's horrible.

CA staph

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Night battles = best battles desu

>>154842827
>badguys fueled by dark gods and dark magics cause the sky to darken when they wage war
>this is a bad thing

???

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>>154842827
>Alright then that's what i'm talking about
that I actually agree with, the apocalypse theme is amusing but overdone, it gets too gloomy
>TWW does the same thing when Chaos
with vamps too, its the main reason I disliked playing as vamps and chaos, everything is bleak and shitty

shitty lightning is also the reason I stopped playing Imperial Splendor mod for empire, those idiots decided that bleak = cool

>>154842698
he probably was at elementary school 5 years ago.

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>>154842716

>Perfect circumstances

It's called weather and season, maps in autumn will look bleak and dry, during storms will look dim, during summer will look colourful, as it should be, it is a great scope of colours.

In the old games it was one setting: Puke.

>>154842746
I started the campaign mostly to check out RoR, since I've already beaten all campaigns on legendary and there is nothing for me to do anymore in Warhammer, so I really wanted to be done with it fast.

I really don't like VC campaign either way though, but that's coming from someone who's favourite faction and campaign is Chaos.

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>>154843000
>cause the sky to brownen when they wage war
Yeah, this is a bad thing if you're not color blind. It's ew. I feel like i have to go out and get some fresh sunlight after a Beastmen battle. If they wanted to add the "wooo here comes the bad boys" weather effect that's cool, but they overdid it with red-brownness.

But yeah you don't care about it so lucky you. No point in discussing it then.

Question: I haven't played Rome 2 all that much

In Rome 1 whenever there was an earthquake the map would show terrain roiling up and down on the campaign map and whenever there was a storm at sea they would have stormclouds and lightening over the sea on the campaign map

Did they do that in Rome 2 as well?

>captcha images disappearing because I've made more than 5 posts in the last hour

I fucking hate this thing

>>154843062
>>154843062
>It's called weather and season
No shit, that's my point. 90% of the time battles will look bad because CA didn't put much effort into most of their weather or season effects.

I don't mind bad weather. I just don't like bad looking bad weather.

>>154843451
Why shouldn't battles involving spooky bad guys have bad lighting?

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>>154844194

The weather effects look perfectly fine
Here's a winter battle with a cloudy weather

>>154841424
>Brown is realistic
Look outside right now dummie

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>>154844194
>>154844583

And here's with fine weather

Again, as opposed to the bright soldiers that don't meld with their surroundings and reduced range of colours of the previous titles.

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>>154842207
>Lizardmen added
>They get Terradon Riders
>Flying flaming/poison skirmishers that drop rocks

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Here's more, cloudy, notice how the lighting affects the colour palette? Just like it would in real life, colours are dim

>>154844583
>>154844784
except that what you posted does not even represent 1% of the AVERAGE battle on the game.

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>>154844784
Maybe I'm just a pleb but I've always thought Attila looks amazing. The back drops and the weather create a beautiful atmosphere

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odd turn of events for the dwarfs and greenskins this playthrough

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Here's with fine weather


>>154844992

It represents its respective weather and season on the campaign, just as it should.

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Posting Attila screens makes me want to start playing again.

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>>154845345
watching you post the screens does the same to me, and I have over 1k hours in it

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>>154845345
iktfb

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>>154845442
nice rug

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Rolling

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>>154845345
Greatest TW ever made imo.

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>>154845620
>tfw playing on med unit detail means I never see a lot of gore

>>154845061
The dwarfs must have their own version of Vlad

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>>154845442
>>154845620
>>154845698

>You will never fight on a carpet made of corpses

Where's that image of the late romans standing on a pile of corpses when you need it

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>>154845887
its probably all slippery and disgusting

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>>154845887

>>154846006
And smells like shit too

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>>154846006

I see your carpet and I raise

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>>154846054
no doubt about it

>>154845679

Fuck I'm in no mood for AOC reroll

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>>154846243

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>>154845061
>tfw no steampunk badlands dwarfs going full mad max riding motorcycles and war rigs through the desert killing orc raiders.

Just imagine pic related on a motorcycle

>someone wants to become my vassal
>they are at war with someone
If I accept them, does the war still stand?

>>154847772
no

>>154847772

no

Radious are the worst mods. They annihilate and semblance of balance and strategy.

>lmao twenty full stacks

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>>154822940
FUck, I hate you with every inch of my being

What Warham mods aren't complete game breaking shit?

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Why are Orcs so fun to play lads?

>>154848827
Radious
seriuosly

>>154848887

Nah, I hate how Radious breaks anything concerning economy balance.

>>154848852

I don't know, they are the only faction I enjoy

>>154848941
if you want less money and armies there are submods for that

>>154849013
>need mods to fix a mod
Somehow I don't think you've quite gotten the concept properly.

>>154850000

Literally every Bethesda mod

Also nice quads

Couldn't CA just have reused faces from Attila to avoid the samefaces in TWW?

>>154850000
quads of truth

Any GEMFX preset you guys run/have/tweak to use for TW:W?

Please share? I'm looking for good ones to try.

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KISLEV WHEN

ANCIENT EMPIRES FUCKING WHEN

FUCKING WHEN

If I go back to Empire what mod(s) do I want

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>>154855206
if you can stand the absolutely worst kind of shitty bleak lightning then get Imperial Splendor

otherwise get darthmod

>>154854338
two weeks from today

this is pretty common knowledge by now calm down

>>154842000
>>154842036

Thats what made sense to me, but i figured the devs would be smart enough to not put something so insignificant in there. Guess i was wrong

>no neets today

reeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeEEEEEEeeee

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>>154855206

Darth mod is actually good for Empire.

Also you get to listen to this while waves of natives charge into your guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tjdswqGGVg

Tfw they overran my position and had this playing as red coats desperately fled from the field with the red man right on their heels.

>>154854338
WOOD ELVES FUCKING WHEN

FUCKING WHEN

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TELL ME ABOUT THE CUMANS!
WHY DO THEY WEAR THE MASK?
[Seriously, they look cool but why?/spoiler]

So Bretonnia will have The family tree right?

>>154856485
Time still doesn't pass, and characters don't age, so what would be the point?

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>>154855893
>tfw listening to this while playing the traditionalists in Fall of the Samurai

https://youtu.be/MXYLHNTsVPA

perfect

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>>154846606
Heres an old carpet

Why are TW "history" titles such bad fantasy? Pic related, an example of a superior setting to the one with army units of "bejewelled nobles" and "kushite shotelai". What is the point of having a fantasy world full of "zodiac archers" if everyone is human-sized and looks the same apart from some badly improvised clothes and armour?

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>>154839469
>Rome 2

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>>154856954
Forgot my pic, historical fiction the way it's meant to be done; here showing a Mesopotamian faction.

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>>154856568
>playing traditionalists
>doesn't jerk off when the gatling gun starts firing in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCtuZ-fDL2E
AHAHAH, faggot weeb!

>>154856954
(You)

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BRAVE ROMAN MEN

Post combat animations

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>>154858150

>graphics get better every year
>gameplay stays the same or worse
why is CA so shit

>>154858347
>muh sewers
>muh would-be Orcish and Chaos Warrior dynasties

I need to redownload Rome 2 and raze greece to the ground

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>>154858150
they are bretty gud

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>>154858705

>>154859423
this screenshot actually looks like it was taken in Roman times with Roman technology.

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>>154857220

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>>154859673
umm
thanks?
i mean the game is called ROME total war

DLC NEWS WHEN?!

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So what's the final word on this

>>154860001
The final word is get the fuck out of here with that bait.

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>>154860001
I think you may be baiting

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>>154860001
Patriarchy BTFO

>rome total war from 2004 uses 3D models 100% of the time
>rome 2 goes back to shogun 1 technology and uses sprites when you zoom very far
really makes you think

>>154860518
>rome total war from 2004 uses 3D models 100% of the time
Its not

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heh

>>154860518
>rome total war from 2004 uses 3D models 100% of the time

You don't need to come up with lies if you actually want to talk bad about a game anon, have a (You) though, you seem to need it desperately

>>154860659
How? It's not like that cav is tagmata or hunnic meme cav.

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>>154860659
heh

how do you deal with the crippling religious differences when playing the desert kingdoms

>>154860830
>desert "cant fucking die" spears form a defensive line in a chokepoint.
>tribesmen back them up
>cav baits weaker units and sandwich charges
>hammer the anvil

>>154860830
>It's not like that cav is tagmata
tagmata is nowhere near top cav anymore, it got nerfed and a lot of far stronger cav units have been introduced since then

>>154860989
just build major temple in every city and at least 1 minor village temple

>>154860970
us trve understanders are capable of miracles.

>>154861110
I know. It's still pretty fucking strong though.

>>154860001
At least it's optional. Also the attila ones are "grounded" in reality at least. They kinda makes sense for horde faction levies. A non-issue really.

It doesn't make me afraid CA will cover up Witch Elves when the dark elves are released.

It is possible though, considering today's political/social climate.

>>154860648
>>154860734
show me a screenshot of RTW using sprites

>>154856919

Goddamni loved bridge battles

>154862251

I gave you a (You) already pal