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Prey Slaughtered: >>154174616

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
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>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
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>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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>>154353489
first for Vileblood glory
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>>154353678
i wonder how hairy her pure pussy is.
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>>154353678
Thread's fucking ruined now.
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Iris Cassanova is huge blue haired slut who loves getting hit in the fucking face because everybody is doing cursed dungeons tonight.
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>>154353678
>you will never degrade her by raping her with your Executioner buddies, and then smash her with the Wheel
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>>154353678
she'll accept my proposal any day now haha
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>>154353778
yes, i agree

nerd
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>>154353851
I wasn't expecting good ol Beast of Darkness: mixtape edition.
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>>154353851
>>154353778
forgot my image
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Ludwig anon, are you still up for more cooperation?
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Xth for
>"oh what's that smell?"
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Ringing again...
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>>154353808
>you will never kill Alfred and give his Blood Dreg to the glorious queen

Oh wait, you can.

And I do, every playthrough.
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sequel when?
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fc in 17 hours don't forget to level viit
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Iris, you coming?
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I give thanks to my comrade for his help in hunting Ludwig
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>>154354393
Never, anon, Bloodborne doesn't need a sequel. I would love more content for this game, but not a sequel. It's perfectly self-contained.
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We may be here a while.
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>>154353489
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>>154354086
Gascoigne is the boss where I knew that video games would never be the same.
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>>154355129
I will join the last time for today, have to sleep soon
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>>154355369
Kk, it's been fun.
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Forgot about that deceptive range.

Thanks for joining, Luk
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Trio in the woods are cunts; Bloodborne is a great game.
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>>154355284
How so?
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anyone up for Amygdala, ringing at the gate, password is kosm
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>>154356141
The music and mid-fight transformation.
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Anyone bored enough to help run one of my low level characters through the first part of the DLC to get the Saif and church pick?
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Sure is slow tonight.
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>>154358875
Yeah. Been spending the last hour on defiled watchdog, only one new post.

did just kill him though
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>>154359220
Good on you.
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>>154359260
Thanks.

Amy's going to be a bitch.
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>>154359220
Ahhh gomen Iris here, I got called away by a friend who wanted to join. I'm sorry I scrubbed it up tonight, I just wanted to help ;-;. Hopefully tomorrow I'm more useful.
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>>154359716
Don't worry about it.

If you're available, Amy should be pretty easy with two people.
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>>154359990
Not tonight, I'm clocking out. Tomorrow around 8pm I'm gonna be around providing support again because I just wanna help the good hunters. except ExplodinBurrito they're fags and eat ass
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>>154357656
Was able to claw my way to the saif but there's no way I can take Ludwig and all the shit in-between me and the pick, unfortunately. I'll just try again in a few levels I guess.
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>>154360151
so I've killed Amygdala, anything worth finding down the path with all the Yeti's?
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>>154360218
I'm trying to remember, but am coming up blank.
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>>154360218
Pretty sure you get chunks around there. Maybe that's the path to the obelisk shortcut, but I forget.
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>>154360108
If I'm still doing Chalices, see you tomorrow.
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>>154358875
I would have helped people with bosses if my friends didn't want to watch movies tonight.
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>>154360665
Obelisk shortcut?
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>>154361691
There's a standing obelisk than you can run up to and push it down creating a little ramp from the start of the area to where the boulder giants are
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What's the funnest way to do another playthrough if I've already gone two rounds of straight melee?
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>>154362081
BLT/ARC
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anyone know how much does BMA empower a gun by?
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>>154362081
Bloodtinge and Skill.
Parry4dayz.
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>>154362201
>>154362535
Playing arcane would be going to the spells in the game asap and abusing those? And bloodtinge is using guns? Or those weapons with bloodtinge requirement?
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>>154362854
all of the above
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well finally managed to beat the goddamn Bloody Crow, that was an ordeal
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Going through Lower Loran, BL 80, if anyone wants to drop in.
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Lore question: Does the game take place in some post apocalypse scenario or is this just an average tuesday for yharnam?

Pro apocalypse:
>bodies everywhere
>graves and abandoned coffins everywhere
>crazy mutated monsters
>important buildings are abandoned

Pro average night:
>hunters you meet seem to be doing 'normal' things(searching through byrgenwerth, spying on mensis school, hoontin hoonters)
>sane people you meet dont ever talk about apocalyptic events
>villagers cooperate and patrol the streets

So to me it looks like the whole city is doomed, but nobody acknowledges it?
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>Stuck on Ludwig for four hours

Ain't even mad. Just wish I could stop dropping all the spaghetti in phase two.
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>>154365336
At the beginning of the game, in the evening, all NPCs in their houses call it the Night of the Hunt and chastise you for being outside. So this isn't the first time the beasts have been out and townsfolk/the church/hunters have been killing them. Those NPCs are basically "Yo we're gonna wait this one out inside, you're screwed outside bruh"
However, talking to the Chapel Dweller gives you a bit more information about this particular night. He says it isn't like regular hunts, that it's unusually long, and people are turning while in their homes guarded by incense. Rescue 4 people, and he'll tell you there are no more survivors in the city. Yharnam is done for.

So to answer your question it starts out as any other night of the hunt, but very soon becomes much deadlier, much more widespread, and much, much more sinister, but by that time only a handful of people, you included, are there to witness it. And most of those people go insane.
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>>154365336
It's neither.

>Good, good. I've been waiting for one of your ilk. These hunts have everyone all locked up inside. Waiting for it to end... It always does, always has, y'know. Since forever. But it won't end very nicely, not this time. Even some folks hiding inside are goin' bad. The screams of wimminfolk, the stench of blood, the snarls of beasts... none of em's too uncommon now. Yharnam's done fer, I tell ya.

The night of the hunt is a special event that occurs during full moons/blood moons. Most of Yharnam locks themselves away during these nights whilst the hunters go about cleaning up the 'infected'. But tonight things are particularly crazy. It's not pre or post apocalypse, it's mid-apocalypse.

Well not strictly apocalypse since it seems to mostly be a contained issue to Yharnam and the surrounding area.
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>>154365706
>he'll tell you there are no more survivors in the city
This can't really be taken as fact since you can rescue all four of them and still speak to other people in their windows.
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>>154365336
>>154365706
Actually, I want to address a few more things.The villagers are co-operating with each other but are clearly insane. They're turning into beasts and identify you as a monster/beast because you have a different appearance and scent. Working together, yes, but like a pack of animals.

And many of them when killed say "This town's finished" so there's that.
There's a note in Yahar'Gul saying the Mensis Ritual must be stopped ,or we shall all turn to beasts.
And Laurence leaves a note in the lecture building about how Evolution without Courage will be the end of Humanity.

So again, yeah, normal night of the hunt, but all the underlying factors of the hunt, like the nature of the scourge, the role of the cosmos, truth of blood ministration, etc, are coming to a head on this Night of the Hunt and everybody is fucked.

>>154366094
I think killing Rom turns things post-apocalypse. Everyone in Yharnam is dead or turned, the few survivors you saved are also either dead or insane, every NPC hunter you've met is either dead, blood-addled (and then killed), or bestial (and killed).

>>154366216
I may be iffy on the actual words, but he does say there is no one left to save. And the NPCs inside their houses all go insane and, soon after, their lights go out.

Besides, all your survivors get fucked up. Except maybe the skeptical man, I think he turns out okay?
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I still want this guy to post his sliders.
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>>154366341
You can save those four and both Gascoigne's other daughter as well as Gilbert are still surviving and will talk to you, not to mention Alfred, Eileen, etc.

It's just something to tell the player the chapel is maxed, not an omniscient foresight from Oedon itself.
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>>154367723
Gilbert is infected and turns, there isn't any way to change that. Doesn't Gascan's older daughter go insane or die, regardless of what you do? The light is out there as well, says "no response".

I understand the dialogue is there so nobody goes around frantically searching for somebody else, but it does highlight how virtually no other character in the game can stay alive and sane, i.e. there is no one left to save because everyone who isn't dead is doomed one way or another.
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>>154365336
I think it starts out just like any other Hunt, but as the night progresses, and especially post Rom, enters point-of-no-return territory. I also think Yharnam's been slowly falling apart for a long time, and the game takes place on the night where it got completly fucked.
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>>154368182
>Doesn't Gascan's older daughter go insane or die, regardless of what you do?
If you give her the ribbon she'll kill herself. If you ignore her the lights'll go out and you'll get no response, same as with her little sister.

It's important to note that she only appears at the blood moon, which is when everything reaches critical mass, and she remains sane up until you give her the bloodied ribbon of her little sister.
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>>154368752
Yeah, so there is literally no one to save. Nobody makes it out with you.
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I was just farming watchers and got a fire radial, I didn't think Pthumeru watchers dropped elemental gems?
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>>154369405
Pics?

Any effect is possible but it's just ultra rare, someone got a 23% Radial Nourishing one time, and a 32.6% Bloodtinge Gem.
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>>154369916
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requesting webms my peeps, specifically the one showing the stake driver vs ebrietas
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>>154369916
>23% Radial Nourishing one time, and a 32.6% Bloodtinge Gem.
Bollocks
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>>154369220
The guy in the cathedral can survive if you don't bring the beggar beast or don't kill him, and relatively sane too...
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>>154370015
I'm guessing you arnt an Arcane build?

Because with that gem you could have the best fire weapon in the game, since could have +flat fire as a secondary effect on 2 Cold Abyssals or another 27% fire.
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>>154370301
Unfortunately not, skill build.
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But what about all the mutations? Are the fishmen in the hamlet normal for yharnam? What about the sluglike students of the college? Or the beings with the meatbobbleheads?
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Goddamnit. I can't fucking do it.

I've solo'd him before, at a lower level, although possibly with better gems and more vit. Either way this is ridiculous. Seven fucking hours. Fuck.
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>>154370439
Need help, anon?
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Is it possible for ANY gem to be off-shaped? I've been trying to farm an off-shape flat fire gem for 5 million echoes and never gotten one.

Is it also possible for an off-shape from a chest?
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>>154370257
I've seen pictures of both, the BLT one was in this very general.

Watchers can potentially drop the highest primary effect of any gem type (except STR/ARC scaling) it's just really fucking rare outside of Tempering, Adept and Elementals in Isz. Best possible poison gems come from them, but it's so low of a chance it will probably never happen in a lifetime of farming.

It's a horribly designed system. They should have made No Secondary effect a secondary effect that could appear on any gem, not limit it to Watchers. They should have also made every single effect on Watchers be an equal drop chance, but also ensuring ever effect had somewhere to farm with no more than 3 effects in the drop pool.
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>>154353847
Someday, for sure. Someday...
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>>154370649
I'm going to need proof on that shit, because I've never heard of a 23% nourishing or a 32% blood
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>>154370595
I don't think chests can be offshapes, but it's not something you can confirm without opening 1000s of them.

Offshape Flat Fire gems should be possible, but I've heard people complain before (was probably you), so maybe there's a hidden mechanic.
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>>154370545
Nah, I'm gonna solo him. I'm just really pissed off that I can't so far, especially after seeing some other anon say he did it at a lower level, and having done it myself.
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>>154370421
>Are the fishmen in the hamlet normal for yharnam?
Either Kos or Burgers and Fries messed up with the people in the hamlet, given that Burgerworth were opening their brains to see what's inside it must have been Kosm.
>What about the sluglike students of the college?
No idea of what they are, maybe the same as brainfuckers and the fly people
>Or the beings with the meatbobbleheads?
That was the choir and their experiment with blood.
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>>154370709
I'm sure someone here has a saved pic the 32% Blood, it was posted in bbg ~2 months ago.
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>>154370818
Well, if anybody does have it, I'd like to see it.
Though there's always a chance it's an edited picture.
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>>154370709
>>154370257

Now let the madness of knowing you will never have one consume you.
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>>154370941
Some dude who used to go to the FCs had two in his Bloodletter IIRC. He referred to them as "full Korean mode".
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>>154370947
Too small to really have a proper look to check (as well as one can) if it's been altered.
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>>154371043
Jesus dude, just google "23% Nourishing" a bunch of people have them, even more talking about how to get them.

WATCHERS. CAN. DROP. ANYTHING.
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>>154371125
Well, now I'm going to have to farm watchers until I die...
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>>154371007
No, they are 31.5% gems. Offshapes from a Shotgun Fatty mob. They are common drops as Circle gems, but to get Radial, Triangle or Waning requires 1000s of farming runs. Since it's a standard mob it can only go up to Rating 18.

32.6% is a rating 19 gem which comes from Layer 1-2 bosses, meaning the Radial 32% BLT gem came from Merciless Watchers boss, which is unheard of.
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>>154357656
What's that from again? I know I've seen that full clip on YT, but I can't remember what it's called.
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>>154370817
Yeah but those things all happend before the night of the hunt, albeit in secrecy, right?
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>>154371197
Found proof of BLT as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byrHVYHlV6A

This guys is triangle, the one posted here was Radial. So both areas of Watchers can drop them.
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How did kos manage to get preggo?
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>>154371762
Great One society is really conservitive, so she didn't get any proper Sex-Ed during her Eldrich Education. Poor gal was taken advantage of by a horny college jock named Gehrman
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>>154371762
How is tentaclbabby formed? How Kos get pragnet?
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>>154371375
>>154371125
>>154370947

> these gems

Wew lads, the desire to go full Korean is rising inside me.

Did anything ever come of that guy trying to buff the boss Watchers with the Ritekeepers AOE? I don't know if he ever came back with results. But imagine a rating 20 Watcher Bloodtinge Gem...[/spoiler]its enough to make a man sick[/spoiler]
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>>154372068
>How Kos get pragnet?
Well it all starts with Barry White and jello shots...
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>created FRC isz chalice
>about to go spelunking
Let's hope there's something worthwhile down here
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>>154371328
The Hamlet was befote the hunt, I think. It's never made clear when the hunt started but Gehrman was the first and he was associated with Laurence so it have must been after he left Willem.
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>>154372219
Whatever you do, don't touch the Red Jelly.
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Do eye runes make a difference with gem rarity? Particularly with bosses. Does it affect chances of off shape gems?
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>>154372863
> rarity

No

> out of shape drops

Some people claim it does, but it's probably just placebo. It's hard to accurately test what affects droprate on something that has an estimated 1% droprate.
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>just sold 220 blood gems
>have 450 ritual blood (5)
>26,000,000 echoes
Trying to get off-shaped 31.5% blood gems
WHEN WILL THE MADNESS END
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Holy mother of fuck BB just pissed me off. I love this game but its ability to get under my skin is just uncanny.

Nerves are already frayed from not being able to kill Ludwig. Then for some completely insane reason fucking Lower Pthu Watchers were pushing my shit in. Then the game tried to hide a 51K bloodstain from me.

Got the stain, and the boss, eventually but Jesus fuck. Think I'm ready to take a couple days off already.
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>>154375404
> tfw I've never sold I Bloodgem
> never know when I might need them on a back up weapon

It takes minutes to scroll through my gems, and it's probably not good for the games's memory to have God knows how many unique items in my inventory. But I can't do it, my digital hoarding instinct is too strong.
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>>154376357
I have to keep selling them, drives me insane having to wait to scroll through them all. I keep any get ones in storage.
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Common ones, I just sell. Rarer ones, like ones with piercing buffs (I don't know if they're actually rare, they just never seem to drop for me) I keep 2 or 3 of until I find a higher rank, then trade up accordingly.
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I'm thinking of doing a Blt/Str build for xboxhueg guns and the bloodletter. What's the best starting class? Also should I go 28 str or 30 str? This seems like a hard build to pull off at BL98.
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>>154377193
https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
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>>154377228

How does this look?
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>>154377426
45 or 50 VIT would be preferable
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>>154377426
I'd suggest something a little more like this.
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>>154377426
>>154377585
Of course, if you really want to use the Chikage for some reason you can take the extra point out of vit and put it into skill.
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>>154377685
Take 2 points off VIT then you can use the Bow Blade as well. Make it an all-round BLT build.

Or instead of cutting VIT cut points of BLT instead, each point after 25 only gives 0.014 scaling saturation, so having 48 instead of 50 won't cause anything drastic. 4 AR isn't really a big deal in exchange for ~40 health. or go to 100 instead of 98, it's a dumb number and chosen for reasons that are no longer relevent. 100 is a nice clean stopping point and no one will care.
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I'm not sure which stats to invest my last 4 levels in, I've put it off for weeks. Any thoughts?
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>>154379116
Either one in vit, three in end or all four in vit.
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>>154379258
Yeah, pretty torn between VIT and END
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Someone once told me weapon durability down curse doesn't stack (so, 3 -63 durability curses would remain just -63 durability)
Is this true?
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>>154370421
i like to think that the slug fellas in the lecture building are the result of evolution without courage. They literally have no back bone. I believe that is what the note is referring to.
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>>154379116
Stick the rest into Vit, End isn't as important and 12 is enough even for Strength and Str/Arc weapons. I run 12 on my Str/Arc just fine.
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What's everyone doing?
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>>154381729
Getting ready to start farming some arcane gems in an Isz Root Chalice.

First, I'm going through an FRC Isz, though. Trying to get to the lever room in Layer 3.
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What is a good bread and butter for a strength build? I'm stuck between ludwig's, axe, and kirkhammer. I like all of them really and can't decide which to take to +9 first
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>>154384621
Out of the 3 I'd pick Hunter Axe. But Whirligig Saw is really good if you don't have it yet.
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>>154384621
Axe
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>>154384621
Cuttah.

But out of those, Kirk. Memeblade and Haxe, whilst fun, are overpowered as fuck through moveset alone.
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>>154384504
What gems you farming?
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>>154388879
Radial | 18 | 23.1% arc + 2nd stat | Bone Ash Hunters

Triangle | 19 | 27.2% arc | Isz Watchers

Both come from Isz Root chalices, just different glyphs. I'll be savescumming the watchers, too, so if anybody would like to join, I'll be happy to have more people.

I'll start the actual farming in about an hour or something.
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>>154387036
>Memeblade
What did he mean by this?
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>>154387036
>Cuttah
Can you give me the tl;dr of this weapon? I'm not the fag who asked, but I just did the DLC and you get a ton of weapons at once and I haven't familiarized myself with any of them yet.
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Alright lads, thinking of going for my first proper bloodtinge build here, as it's the only one I've never tried.

Obviously Chikage and Evelyn are the go-to's, but is there any way to not have the bloodtinge stat be totally worthless until cainhurst?
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>>154389327
Ludwig's Holy Blade

Not Holy Moonlight Sword
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>>154390514
Nope. You get to do more damage with your basic gun, but that's all you can do. You just rush Cainhurst as fast as possible.
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>>154390707
I got that but why meme? I don't understand the word meme anymore. Is it a meme?
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>>154390039
Str version of the Threaded Cane that's a little slower but hits harder and has longer range.
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>>154390828
It's called Memeblade because it's the most boring weapon in the game, but most casuals use as a crutch because of it's A/A scaling.
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>>154390838
Whoa that actually sounds like the fucking jam man.
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>>154365553
>Cutter
My nig.
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>>154391018
It doesn't have the Righteous attribute in untricked mode like the Threaded Cane though.

But that's kinda negligible since that bonus only affects the mobs found in cainhurst.
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Does the fact that some builds aren't even slightly accessible until late game annoy anyone else?

It shouldn't be that there is physically no way to build bloodtinge or Arcane until so late in the game.
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>>154391430
This game has too many weapons and not enough blood stones. I've started ng+ and was working on fortifying the whirligig and amygdalan arm but now I want a +10 cutter too.
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>>154391706
CHALICE

DUNGEONS
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>>154391676
Would could ask one of us to let you kill us for free Blood Echoes if you wanted.
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>>154392314

What? I mean there are no weapons that scale off those things early game.
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>>154392314
*Well you

how the hell did auto-correct turned that into Would... I may never know
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>>154392427
Threaded Cane can carry you pretty well as long as you know how to play keep-away and the Flamesprayer melts bosses easily

There are tons of guides out there to help you too
Why the hell are you whining so much anyway?
It's in the OP go read it if you want
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>>154392427
>>154392428
>>154392583


I have no problem progressing in the game, I've played through it like 5 times now.

What I'm saying is that it seems like bad game design that certain stats are effectively useless until you're post Rom.
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>>154392643
I've only played through once but I'll be honest, I was also wondering what to do with a BLT or ARC build in the early game. I think you just pick a weapon and use it though, mate, then you get the weapons you're going for.
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>>154393620

Last ARC playthrough I rushed Logarius wheel, which if you're gud you can get immediately post rom.

With BLT you just have to wait until Cainhurst though. There's really no other option.
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>>154393743
You can get the wheel long before getting to Rom though?
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>>154394026
You can do Cainhurst before Rom, yes.
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>>154392643
>>154393620
With Arcane just use the Fire Saw Spear throughout the whole game. With Bloodtinge you can just shoot everything with the Repeating Pistol. +6 Saw Spear and Reppy Pistol should get you through Logi just fine.
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>>154390039
Just to add to what other Anon said, untricked hits like a fucking truck stagger-wise so don't be shy with it, and tricked will take a lot of getting used to but once you've got it down it's great.
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>>154390828
It's the most commonly used weapon in the game. In my experience (and a lot of people have echoed the same or similar sentiments) 5 times out of 10 when I'm beckoned or when I invade the host will be using it.
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FC when?
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>>154390514
You don't really want to touch Bloodtinge until you've got the Chikage anyway. Just level Vit so you've got a better chance with Logarius and upgrade whatever weapon you like to +6. Haxe is probably best because you can just spin2win.
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>>154381729
Trying out Overmeme because of the free weekend, cleaning, petting my cat, have to unlock chalice dungeons for my PVP character later on
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>>154391676
Arcane is actually really viable early-game if you follow this guide. Only real challenges are Gascoigne, the first area of the DLC if you do it, and Ludwig (and even then, he's not nearly as much of a stonewall as Logarius is to early-game bloodtinge builds).
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>>154395207
11pm GMT, 6pm some American timezone
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>>154391676
Arc can be made viable after killing BSB and BLT can be made viable relatively quickly after killing Amelia. Considering up until those points your stats are fairly negligible, it's not so bad.
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>>154395520
Thanks friend.
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I saved this from this general but for the life of me can't remember what he was on about
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>time to go to the upper cathedral ward
>time to pay my mandatory 20 insight tax to any brainsucker who remembers his spells
Who the fuck thought these where a good creature to include
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>>154397813
Best creature design I think, aside from Garden of Eyes. We don't even know what they are, but they were once people, they were Forgotten Madman-like robes and have phantasms bursting from their heads. They eat eyes, but for what purpose?
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>>154397813
>any brainsucker who remembers his spells.
Honestly the spells are all fairly easy to dodge. For my money, the most bullshit part of them is their one instant start-up grab out of all of their different grabs.
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>>154395596
If you want to start early just shout and i'll pile into Pthumeru
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>>154399221
I just don't wanna be late, I was late last week and kept fighting the same saw spear over and over.

And I haven't played in months with the exception of last Saturday, so I need to fix my crave.
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>>154399221
im looking forward to redeeming myself at least a little. ended last weeks FC by jumping straight into an amygdalan arm like a bitch
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>>154399221
My gems and build are garbage but leveled a character up for it this week.
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>>154400864
I can give you a hand next week if you need it.
>>154399630
I'll be running with the kirk this week no amy arm this time around.
>>154399437
Welcome back to the dream!
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So anyone free to help through Lower Loran (I'm at darkbeast) and then Ihyll?
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At what point have I put too many points into endurance? For a strength character who's interested in big weapons.

Is 25 too much? I'm worried I may have put a few too many points into it.
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>>154401523
You shouldn't need more than 20 Endurance plus Anti-Clockwise 2.

Or you can go to 99
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>>154401370
Sounds like a plan! What's the pass, boss?
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>>154401370
Give me like 20 minutes.
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>>154402123
Nice! bbg

>>154402140
Sure thing.
Might still be at Darkbeast by then

I've gotten him down to about 20-30% consistently before I get one-shot.
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Am I safe to try the DLC at level 69 (NG, first playthrough) even if I'm not gud?
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>>154402345
You ringing at Carl's fog or lamp?
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>>154402563
You should be fine at 69, with a +9 or +10 weapon.
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>>154402706
Lamp.
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>>154402709
Yeah, I think I should wait then. My best is +6 right now.
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>>154400864
It's no worries. As long as you're decent, shitty gems can still make a difference.
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>>154402345
Alright, 20 minutes guy is in.
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>>154397497
Watchdog genitals?
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>>154403162
Ringing.

Forgive me, Father. Trying to blacksky eye was pointless with him switching aggro and jumping everywhere, should have just gone in.
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>>154403162
I haven't picked you up, anon, Lower Loran level 3 for sure, yes?
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>>154403473
Nah, it was my bad trying to Cutter him. The thing is too slow to effectively deal with him.
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>>154403514
20 minutes guy is Father.
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>>154403514
I'm >>154401370
Are you also trying to summon in the same place?
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RIP.
Ringing.
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Thanks guys, well done. Picking up red jelly real quick then opening Ihyll.
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>>154405806
WHOO

Ringing in Ihyll, let's fuck the queen
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>>154405806
Just let us know when to ring. I'll have to bring another build for HMPH.

>>154405883
Good to see you around, Tobias. Still appreciate that last built of help on END Yourself.
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>>154405883
>>154405956
Might be a minute. I'm actually one short
and messengers aren't selling
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This is purely out of curiosity here, but would /vg/ have any interest in streaming 'long-plays' of bloodborne? I can solo 100% the game (minus chalice dungeons) in around 20 hours. Picking up all loot, completing all questlines and all bosses. I also play at autismo level of role-playing with my characters, having intricate backstories between all of them that dictate their builds, weapons and fashion. I've tweaked my original characters to fit the bloodborne lore as well.
I know the game mechanics in good detail, and have put over 600 hours into the game, but I still haven't explored the deeper chalice dungeons or really dabbled in PvP that much. I'd like to play the game with the bells ringing all the time to get as much online play as possible. Or even try speed runs after a while.
I also have a qt gf

AMA, not doing much for a couple hours.
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>>154406686
No worries, am at the layer1 lamp whenever you're ready!
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>>154406686
No problem. You can open up Isz and run through it real quick. Don't remember the glyph offhand, though.

>>154406771
Just ring your sinister in the start of each area, and then beckoning. The chalices are fun, and roots offer a lot of replayability to the chalices.
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>>154406771
>I also play at autismo level of role-playing with my characters, having intricate backstories between all of them that dictate their builds, weapons and fashion

>mfw I do this in every Souls game with all my D&D characters
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>>154407127
>Roleplaying in roleplaying games
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
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REV UP THOSE BELLS, BOYS

FITE NITE IS GO

PTHUMERU OR BUST
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>>154406937
>>154406998
Took some running around but I got it.
Let's give her a second abortion.
Ringing layer 1.
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>>154407127
>>154407454
I've been role-playing the same 8 characters in every game I possibly could, ranging from D&D 3.5 to Diablo 2 to Oblivion for about 15 years, and working on their story the whole time, I'm about halfway through my first of 3, 1000+ page novels about them. Role-playing in these games helps me visualise, describe and expand on my characters.
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Ringing, Tony?
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>>154409245
Nah, go without me. Something came up, sorry.
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Hey let's pretend I didn't just do that.
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Alright nignogs, doing NG+ on a strength/quality build. Already got Str and Vit at 50, skill at 25, and I just now got my Arc to 15 so I could start using a few of these tools. What should I level up from here though? Is raising my Str/Vit over 50 a waste? Should I pump more into Arc? End is only 17 so it can't hurt to improve that a little. I don't know, I just didn't think this far ahead with my stats. Thoughts?
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>>154410893
END is fine gouge vit or shove Skill further up
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Man I wish my internet wasn't so bad lately. I want to join everyone for the fight club, but my connection is so bad I've been getting hit by moves that aren't even being swung. I guess now I know what it's like to be the BR.
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FC IS ON NOW GET IN HERE
PTHUMERU
GLYPH = n6rc9jh8
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>>154395354
>Chicago
>when Memeletter exists
For what purpose?
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>>154411214
time for sweet, juicy dregs
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>>154411006
>END is fine
Think so? I wouldn't mind being able to chain one more hit before running out of stamina but I did beat the whole game and DLC with low END, demonstrating that it isn't totally necessary. Why skill, just to open up weapon options?
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>>154406771
Fuck off you filthy vilecuck
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I can't do Fight Club at level 120 can I?
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>>154411516
im level 150 and the rules say everyones allowed
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>>154411385
Just use a stamina rune.
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>>154411642
Yeah true. Currently using Great Lake, Clawmark, and Clockwise Metamorphosis. What are your favorite runes senpai?
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I don't think I'll ever get used to the online latency. Do you have any tips besides git gud?
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>walked right into that boulder
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>>154411982
That was kinda funny.
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>>154411793
>besides git gud?
Nah m8 you pretty much got it covered already.
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>>154411793
git used to it?
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Okay I'm in the FC chalice. Wat do?
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>>154412239
Go to the circular room right after the layer 1 lamp and ring your sinister bell. If you're invaded, blood bullet.
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>>154412382
What pw?
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>>154412239
ring your sinister bell and wait to either invade or be invaded. if you are invaded blood bullet

hit them until they die
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>>154412453
No password neesed, just ring.
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Why is blood bullet not working?
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That's the first time i've seen the Headless BLB get bullied.
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>>154412790
If you already have +5 bullets it doesn't work. Just fire a shot and it will.
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>>154412809
Three Whirligig...brutal.
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>>154412960
Yeah thanks I never use blood bullets normally so that took me a sec
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One if you killed me (gg) and now I can't ring my sinister bell again. Is there a cooldown after death? I'm a PvP newfag.
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Fucking triple kill.
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>>154413623
OI STOP CO-OPING AND GET IN THE FC YOU FUCKS
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>>154413243
No there isn't a cooldown, make sure you're in the actual arena as the first hallway won't let you ring
PSA PSA PSA
whenever you get a kill as an invader or invadee, silence and rering your bell or BHM to reset the built in invasion timer
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Kek nice mutual kill, Devious
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>>154414009
Turn on character names my man.
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You lads abort Queen Yharnam?
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>>154414269
No, still ringing.
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Reminder that the FC has a Discord yadda yadda

https://discord.gg/gbZzPZM
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I'm farming Isz Watchers in a cursed root chalice for blood gems.

Is there a way to cheese these guys quickly and reliably, or am I better off just farming them by fighting normally?
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>>154414458
visceraling, spamming large r2s like lhb or bb
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>>154411516
>>154411635

Level ranges are a thing, there isn't really any way to enforce over leveled characters, but a 150 will simply not connect to anyone who is 98. I think 120 can be invaded by 98s, but not invade them.
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>>154414553
Fair enough

I'm ARC so my viscerals are weak as hell, but I can spam R2's. I should try A Call Beyond too.
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>>154411791
Anti-clockwise, Blood Rapture and Oedon Writhe
Hunter of Hunters Oath rune
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>>154414993
yeah i realize, and i wish i wasnt so overleveled but the thought of grinding chalices and gems to be in the meta is soul crushing.
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>>154415069
ACB isn't that good, you can spam eye though if you keep bloodbulleting
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That AoE Kalameet lift is not a fun way to die. Anticlimactic and no sound effect on hitting the ground.

also I can't distinguish the animation from her other knife cast
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>>154415069
Use Augur of Eribritas. It puts them on thier ass every single time.

Moonlight Sword beams are also fantastic, a Charged R2, R2 combo will obliterate them even if the actual sword doesn't connect. I also get 1000+ damage on L2 pokes which also send them flying.
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>>154413243
You also need Insight to ring
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>>154414458
>>154415069
Use the beast cutter, and spam the transformed R2. It hits them from really far away, and they're too slow to close the gap.
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>>154415069
If you have kosm parasite just press l2
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>>154415307
You need no insight to ring the sinister bell.
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>>154415146
>Blood Bulleting
>When you could just use a rune to replenish bullets with a visceral
It's like you don't like free stuff
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>>154415273
Aw sweet.
I have a fully upgraded HMS. I can try that out.
>>154415380
Neat, thanks, anon. I'll give that a try too. I've been farming these guys for the parasite specifically.
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>>154415447
Eye runes for chunks, plus the amount of echoes you get from watchers is more than enough to replenish your vials
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Whichever of you that was with the church pick you're pretty fast dawg
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Get in the fight club, unless you're scared
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I tried to dash out but the AoE range ended right on the fountain.
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So I'm not trying to trigger anyone's autism with this question, everyone be cool, but I haven't played any of the Dark Souls games. Only Bloodborne. I don't have a PS3 so I can't start with DeS or DS1 unless I get DS1 on my PC. Which should I play?
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>>154416792
DS2 to start with
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What slider values and base skin color should I use to make my characters skin look like the same shade of blue as the Kos Parasite and Milkweed hands/head?
I want my skin to look blue, so even armor with exposed skin (the Harrowed chest piece for example) looks normal.
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Cibo, blood bullet if you're the host. Don't be a shitter.
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I'm embarrassed/ashamed enough that if you guys didn't want to fight Queen again, I'd totally understand.
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>>154416792
You're cool, anon. Don't worry.

You can emulate DaS, though, so do that. And try Demon's Souls once/if you get a PS3.

I'm not a fan of either DS2 or DS3, but you might want to play them too.
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>>154417247
I can go once more, man, then I'm afraid I gotta go
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>>154415537
Who said anything about Vials?
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>>154417336
>spam bloodbullet
???
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>>154417274
>emulate
It's on PC via Steam so why would I need to emulate? I'd just need to figure out the controller situation because I don't normally play that kind of game on PC.
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>>154417206
Oh. First timer here
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>>154417580
Shit, my bad. Didn't mean emulate.

Anyways, DSFix will help your framerate.
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>>154417081
Also while I'm at it, what should I name my character? It's gonna be a pure ARC ayylium.
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Got her to 40% and died. Thanks for joining, whichever one of you is leaving.
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Looking for help on ng+ darkbeast.

Password is feelsbad
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Gud Hunter why are you using lead elixirs?
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For the Defiled Chalice Dungeon should I be using the HP%+ runes or do they not make much of a difference? Would defense runes be better?

Help
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>>154417880
Slimy Septimus
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Before anyone starts complaining, I'll stop using lead elixir
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>Internet so bad you get hit by an attack that hasn't even been swung yet

However much I wish I could take part in the fight club, I feel like my choppy connection is just making things worse for everyone else. Looks like I'm bailing early.
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>>154418195
why not use them? all they do is make you easier to hit
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>>154417906
Glad to help, anon, I hope you get her!
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>>154418227
aww well i dont mind bad connection.
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>>154418425
>>154418124
Because they make you easier to hit
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>>154418563
I'd be a little more likely to stick around if it didn't mean things like bullets or hunter tools didn't fire until they stacked up like two or three before blasting me all at once.
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Just died to her at 10-15% HP left.

Why didn't my choir bell heal you?
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>>154418748
that bad huh? yeah thats too much to deal with. sorry dude
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>>154418848
You need to be close to someone for it to work
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>>154418848
Choir Bell might have a range
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>>154418939
>>154418947
I must have been slightly off, then. Looked like the last ring was touching you.
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>>154419072
still ringing?
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>>154419520
Yep.
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>>154417081
The color is a bit lighter than the head & hands but I think it fits pretty well. Depending in the lighting your character would look really white with a slight tinge of blue. Looks really good in the Fishing Hamlet.
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Is the saw cleaver more strength or skill? Got a friend to start playing this shit yesterday and he just asked me that and I realized I have no idea. I started with the axe, have barely even fucked with the cleaver.
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>>154420069
Saw Cleaver is STR/skl quality, Saw Spear is SKL/str quality.
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>>154420069
The cleaver likes to be fucked with strength
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Hey /v/ sent me here and said you guys might help? Trying to beat Rom on ng+ right now but help altogether would be awesome. Co op is more fun. Sorry if this isn't allowed.
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Recommended runes for the Defiled Chalice Dungeon?
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I'm a bit frustrated. So a little sloppy.
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>>154420169
Word that makes sense, thanks.
>>154420327
Like ur mum m8?
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>>154420397
Set a password and say where you're ringing and I'll be right there to help.

>>154420428
Same runes you'd wear anywhere else, really.
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>>154420578
Would HP% or defense runes be better? I'm not really concerned with getting echoes.
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>>154420578
Byrgenwerth and the password is 12345
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>>154420696
The 5% HP rune is never worth it, so honestly, bring the 10% HP and a defense rune.
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Last time, definitely killing her.
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>>154420812
Different fag here but where's the 10% HP rune? I use the 5% one all the time. No such thing as too much health bar but I agree it isn't great.
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>>154420880
I've put on Clawmarks
Gonna Backstab the shit out of her til the cows come home
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>>154420428
Unless I'm farming I only wear 10% HP, 15% HP, and 20% Stamina.
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>>154420968
You get the 10% HP rune from the Nightmare Frontier, on a little ledge down a ramp about halfway through.
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>>154420698
Well, I'd love to help out, but my internet is apparently so bad that it just won't let me connect. Someone else'll help out, I'm sure.
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>>154421191
Damn. Been through there but missed it. On NG+ now.

On an unrelated note is anyone else bothered by notes that refer to the spiders as insects or do I just have autism?
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>>154421009
Ok, THIS is the last time.
I swapped to clawmarks as well.
Just need to focus, I'm on tilt.
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>>154421321
Ok thanks for trying anyways. The password is still up if any other good hunter wants to help out.

12345 in byrgenwerth
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>>154421358
Well that's the closest description of spiders the game is willing to give you.
At least in terms of notes.
Oh well

>>154421469
i'm willing to join after >>154421359
is finished
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>>154421469
Ringin by the lantern
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>>154421819
>>154421573
Just died.

Ringing again. Sorry I'm super rusty. Just got the dlc and making a full run again. Been months.
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>>154421573
Thanks for being so patient. That felt really cheesy, but I'm glad she's dead.

>>154421469
I can drop by as well, if you want 2 summons.
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>>154421469
alright
i'm joining

Ringing at the lamp as well
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>>154421469
RIP

Ringing again

Don't let yourself get swarmed by the spiders, try to pick them off.
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>>154421945
Ok. Waiting for 1 more because why not.
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>>154421924
Welp, that was embarassing
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>>154422086
Ya'll fighting NG+ Rom? BL?
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I have a theory of the BSB in old Yharnam and the beasts around it.

There's two bsbs in Old Yharnam, one hanging in the first chapel you come through, and a living one at the second chapel, both are surrounded by beast patients,

My theory is, those bsb were the head cleric of their respective chapels, and when the church abandoned old yharnam, they were trapped down there with all the pissed locals an beasts

eventually all of them had turned to beasts, and the people beasts tried to kill/punish the cleric beasts for what they had done.

Probably flaying off the skin from their backs to either imitate cleric robes or simply for punishment.

Then I suppose the surviving one managed to break free and is under siege in his chapel by lesser beasts ever since.

without any access to blood it eventually became the blood starved beast.
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>>154422219
120
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>>154422252
I'll throw my hat into the ring. Bygenwerth Rom?
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>>154422337
Yes.
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>>154422221
>one number off quints

I'll accept that theory 100%, seems plausible. After all, clergy make the most monstrous beasts.
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>>154422337
We're waiting up at the fog gate, by the way. So if you ring at the lantern, just run up here.
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>>154422437
Ringing now.
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>>154422437
>>154422337
>>154422196
Awesome awesome awesome. Thanks bros.
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>>154422958
Cheers.
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>>154422958
Any time, anon.
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>>154422221
good lore

But what do you have to say about BEAST POSSESSED SOULS
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Anybody need help with anything? I'm up for anything atm since I'm waiting on somebody.
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Anybody want to be a bro and give me a hand with Rom in lower Pthumeru?
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>>154418125
Stack up on attack runes instead.
You are gonna be dashing and dodging a lot so Stamina runes are essential.

If you visceral a lot Blood Rapture can save you a lot of Vials.
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>>154423260
pass?
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>>154423260
Gib password
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>>154423312
bbg5

Thanks! Ringing
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>>154423312
>>154423341
I'm at the lamp btw
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>>154423487
still ringing?
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Thanks for the help based Iris

Any pointers for the pizza cutter btw? I want to like it but it's a little awkward.
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Excellent work Friend. I'm glad to have helped you smack fuckface Rom
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>>154424070
Basically get as many good damaging gems for it aa possible, get it for thrust damage if possible and make sure to Not sleep on the really good R1 moveset, relying only on l2 will get you killed. It's a weapon based in spacing and trapping enemies in tight areas.
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>>154424018
Nah m8 we got it but thanks.
>>154424230
>relying only on l2 will get you killed
Yeah that's not a very good attack unless I'm using it wrong. Thrust damage you say?? Never would have guessed that...
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>>154424403
It's hitstun: the move. Just make sure to play smart with it. Great for bosses
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>>154424403
Thrust is wrong as fuck for the whriligig, the l2 is also pretty bad in pvp though it can catch people dashing in as it has a lingering hitbox
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Oh shit I forgot about uncanny weapons but I just found them being sold in lower Pthumeru. What's the deal with these, just different gem sockets?
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Do Thrust attack gems increase riposte damage
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>>154425769
Yeah, just different gem slots
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>>154425838
yes
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>>154425945
Hm okay. Most of my best gems always seem to be radial so the common version may be best. At least for me right now.
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>>154425207
The buzzsaw does Thrust damage, the club does blunt.
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>>154426049
Some Uncanny and Lost version of weapons are better than regular ones, like the Kos Parasite weapon, the Uncanny version is the best.
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>>154426187
The buzzsaw should be serrated. That's retarded. But whatever no biggie I guess.
>>154426327
What does the Kos parasite even do? I don't have the arcane needed to equip it.
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>>154426460
With the Milkweed Rune, it gets a completely new moveset involving tentacles, basically.

Well worth doing an ARC build for.
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>>154426460
The saw is serrated. Serrated isn't its own damage type.
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>>154426735
I could have sworn I'd seen serrated damage somewhere...
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>>154426994
Serrated is a modifier, not a damage type. It technically isn't even a thing, it's bonus beast damage, just that every weapon that has it minus the Church Pick is serrated, so it's easier to say it that way.
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>>154426460
>What does the Kos parasite even do?
It makes everyone laugh
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>>154427115
I see, thanks for clarifying
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>>154426187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYHyLVO2QB8
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Does insight cap at 99 or is there no cap?
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>>154427990
99
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>>154427990
I use my insight on blood rocks. Is this good and based? Or is there something else I should spend it on?
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>>154428450
Might has well spend it on rocks, yeah
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>>154426460
>>154426735
>>154427494
Holy shit. FromSoft what the fuck is wrong with you.
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Just finished level 4 of Pthumeru. That's it, yeah? What next? I have several chalices.
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>mfw farming Isz Watchers for a triangle ARC gem for about 3 hours now
Where's my gem, you fat fucks? Where the fuck is it?
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>>154429336
Level 4 of LOWER Pthumeru, rather.
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>>154429336
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>>154429336
Did you do Loran? Hintertombs? Loran has Beast Claws weapon, Hintertombs has Forgotten Madman boss which unlocks his armour. Did you kill Queen Yharnam, yeah?
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>>154429620
Kek nice, man. Saving this.
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>>154429651
Haven't done any of those yet but you're reading my mind. Beast Claw and Queen Yharnam are on my to-do list for the trophies.
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>>154429620
Saved, thanks man
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Survey time, post your:
>favorite weapon
>favorite attribute
>favorite boss
>favorite area
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>>154432727
>favorite weapon
Kos Parasite and Hunter's Axe
>favorite attribute
Arcane
>favorite boss
Ludwig, Orphan, Father Gascoigne
>favorite area
Fishing Hamlet
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>>154432869
>Orphan
Absolute madman detected.
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>>154432727
>Weapon
Tossup between Steak Dinner and WHEEL.

>Attribute
Don't really have one, whatever works.

>Boss
Either Gehrman or Ludwig, with Orphan of Kos in a close second

>Area
Yahar'Gul has some of the best atmosphere in the game. It's a pain in the dick to actually run, but the design is so good.
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>>154433205
Orphan is one of my favourite fights specifically because I'm shit at him.

I've fought him plenty of times, but he's one of the few bosses that still gives me an incredibly hard time. It always feels amazing to finally beat him.

What's more, the fight arena, right by the misty sea, is fucking gorgeous. First phase music is a beauty.
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>>154432727
>weapon
Chikage
>attribute
Arcane
>boss
Abhorrent Beast
>area
Cainhurst
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>>154433531
>Chikage

Disgusting.
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>>154432727
>favorite weapon
HMLS
>favorite attribute
Arcane
>favorite boss
Maria
>favorite area
Isz
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>>154433721
become proficient
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>>154433839
The average 3v1 has the intelligence of a braindead raccoon. This means nothing.
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>>154434000
I have a million of these duder
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>>154432727
>>favorite weapon
Hunter's Axe, despite different weapons taking my fancy all the time

>>favorite attribute
STRENGTH

>>favorite boss
Father Gascoigne, Micolash, Orphan of Kos

>>favorite area
Upper Cathedral Ward
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>>154434054
All the webums in the world won't make the Chikage any less shit. :^)
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>>154434197
if its so bad why do I win with it all of the day
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>>154434323
You can win with anything if you're dedicated enough. Any competent player should be able to evade your one good move, and then the whole weapon turns to shit because the rest of the moveset is ass.
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>>154434592
you're right why doesn't anyone else realize all you have to do is dodge the unzip??
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>>154365553
Alright after seven hours I was mad.
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>>154434712
more unzip crutching, why didn't he just dodge it?
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>>154432727
God damn It's a toss up between the KirkHammer, Hunter's Axe, and Whirlgig, but I'm gonna say KirkHammer for the sake of it being the embodiment of Justice.

STREEENNGGTTHHH

Father Gascoigne, love that dude, that music, that creepy stage.

Research Hall without a doubt, dem resident evil vibes got me good.
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>>154433392
>Yahar'Gul
My fucking nigger. That was such brilliant design.
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Can someone help with lugarious? Pass is bbg
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>>154434056
>Micolash
Kek what? That fight was annoying as shit, man.
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Can some one carry me on logarius? I'm trying to rush the chicane because I've never used it for a run and this guy is insane st level 30. I'll wait outside the fog gate password is: plshelp
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>>154436359
I love that fucking memelord. He has the most character of all the bosses, I think, as much as or more than Gascoigne, who would be my top favourite, and his dialogue is fantastic for lore and memes alike. Micolash's theme is so perfect for him, s feverish waltz almost, and the whole fight is just a good change of pace. He isn't a half-blood drunk hunter full of beast blood or an alien horror, he pretty much is just a guy like you with some spooky tricks. Plus his design is great and bizarre.
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>>154436335
Ringing at fog gate?
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>>154436634
Well im sorry. I just need to git gud
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>>154436634
That nigger gave me a hard time when I was OVER level. I figured him out finally though. If you still need help when I get home from grabbing tacos I'll jump in
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>>154436739
Sorry went ahead and attempted ringing soon
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>>154436634
You still there? I'll come give you a hand.
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>>154437206
You betcha
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>>154436736
Yeah he was entertaining character/meme wise. I just found the fight itself annoying.
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so how much of my life should I expect to waste savescumming for a total of 6 gems?
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>>154437532
depends on the gems, i assume they're abyssals if you're savescumming but I find elder to be pretty quick to farm especially with a lad or two to spam bse, as compared to amy which isn't necessarily hard but has the constant one-shot potential and doesn't benefit at all from being done co-op
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>>154437532
Depends on the gems. You could do it all in one day if you're dedicated enough. Unless you're going for off-shapes.
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Well done on logarius guys. Smart circle WP my man total carry
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>>154437929
Were you plshelp?
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>>154437630
Elder, Abhorrent, and Watchers are what I'm doing tonight.

Rom and Amy tomorrow.
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>>154437929
No problem. Have fun with the Chikage.
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>You can access the Lecture Building, Nightmare Frontier before you even fight Shadows of Yharnam

Wait what? I don't remember this. So I could potentially go all the way to Amygdala before even fighting Rom?
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>>154438048
Yeah

>>154438164
You got it man thanks
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>>154438095
I'd recommend skipping rom and farming gargoyles instead as the difference is .2% in max value for the ar
Elder is easy, abhorrent is fast once you have good gems but should be saved until you have at least one fire weapon with 2 cold abyssals, watchers are a joke
amy will be annoying especially for a triangle and a waning
I'd expect it to take you a week, not total time played but assuming you go until you get the gem you want for each it'll take a good hour or two for each unless you get lucky, and you'll need at least 2 cold abyssals so thats a total of 5-10 hours for just the bosses you listed not counting repeats, so it'll probably be closer to 10-15 for a full arcane build
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>>154435762
the blade of mercy without a doubt

skill weapons are the coolest

lady maria because im a faggot and love badass 1v1's with humans and the music is god tier

probably the forbidden woods or the research halll
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>>154438242
Yes! You can get the Tonsil stone after killing Amelia.
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Can someone give me a hand with a BLT/ARC build? I'm not quite sure what I should optimize or even what weapons to use. I know I want to use the Chikage, although I suppose that Bloodletter + HMLS would be an efficient combo.
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So Hintertomb really is useless?
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>>154437532
>>154438095
Savescumming doesn't actually take that long unless you're comically bad at the fight in question.

Old HMPH is easy, smack him around to half health and then SMASH THAT MF SQUARE BUTTON and Blacksky Eye him to death.

Abhorrent Beast is kind of annoying, but provided you have a good fire weapon he isn't too bad. Poison and Executioner's Glove, Oil Urn him on the regular and he goes down right quick.

Fatties are easy, jump attacks with big weapons or L2's with the MLG make short work of them. I'm guessing you're after them for an arc triangle? Ebrietas would be a faster choice, despite how tough she can be. Plus, abyssals are better than temperings in most cases.

Amygdala is easy, either shoot moonbeams at his head or, if you don't have the stats for the MLG, throw Accursed Brews. Jump cheese phase three, he goes down quick.

Rom is the worst of the bunch and the only really difficult one, oneshot spiders from offscreen, annoying hitboxes and magic to worry about. I'd recommend a good bolt weapon, like a Saif, because you want to be able to OHKO the little buggers.

If you'd like company, I'd be more than happy to tag along. I could always use more gems.
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>>154438789
Bloodletter scales entirely (Tricked) with Bloodtinge, so that might be your best bet. As for weapons that do pure arcane? Kos Parasite, your options are pretty limited.
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>>154438345
..Fun.
So I'll start with the two cold abysalls then, take it slow so I don't burn out.
Hopefully someone will be on for co-op, helps the tedium.

And the amy bossfight is mechanically easy solo, I spam black eye at her head.
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>>154438789
bloodletter is not an efficient combo with anything because it's most effective to keep it in tricked form unless you're trying to heal parry, in which case you should have a back up elemental one handed weapon like saif, cane, saw, or pick to swap to without actually having to untrick your bloodletter
bloodtinge/arc is a stat sink that will leave you either grossly overleveled or with a weaker version of both the bloodtinge and the pure arc weapons
at best you'll be playing a weak arc build with an evelyn for chip to make to up the damage
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>>154438914
I'm trying to keep it 117 or lower too. Obviously I could go 150, but at that point might as well not have a build desu.
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>>154438789
btw you're going to eat bullets like a mother fucker if you bother to use tools/guns.
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>>154438857
Sure, co-op would be great. I'm working my way to Abhorrent now but I'm going to hop over to Ihyll and grind down to Elder. Fatties are the only ones I'm not worried about.

Rom will probably be bad enough to make me quit the game though.
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Is the Augur of Ebrietas based?
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>>154438848
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>>154438789
Noble Scion: 40/8/10/14/40/40 for Chikage.
Waste of Skin 40/9/14/9/40/40 for Bloodletter.

Both will leave you at 102. Blt and Arc will be able to go to 49 if you stop at 120 and touch only those from then on.

Alternatively you can make a Twink version like me and do Noble Scion: 23/8/10/14/18/20.
Chikage and Kos Parasite are pretty sweet together.
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>>154439885
Are you >implying that your starting "class" even matters?
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>>154371269
Metachaos
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>>154439986
it matters when you're going to leave certain stats where they are as it determines your overall level
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>>154439986
For min/maxing yeah.
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>>154440081
Hmm yeah I guess I can see what you're saying. I usually forget we were even given that choice tbqhwy.
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>>154438914
> only Pure Arc scaling weapon is Kos Parasite

Or any pure physical weapon with Fire/Bolt/Arc gems slotted in it. Fire Saw Spear, Bolt Churck Pick, ArCane. Pure Arc builds can do heaps of stuff.
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>>154438242
You can go all the way to Lower Loran before Shadows if you try hard enough.
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>>154438848
Madman's set, my guy
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>>154395464
The one thing I always wondered about this pic was why would you put all your fire gems in the saw spear when the cane has better ARC scaling?
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>>154441052
That's pretty awesome. I just killed shadows but maybe I'll go clear Frontier before fighting Rom.

>>154443148
Cane's gay.
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Will we ever know why this game has spiders with bowlcuts?
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>>154443505
>Cane's gay.
IT'S NOT GAY!
YOU'RE GAY!
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>Go for a quality build for my first playthrough so I can use all the weapons
>Mfw finding the Chikage
>Mfw finding Holy Moonlight sword
>MFw finding bowblade
>Mfw none of the cool weapons are quality
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>>154443148
saw spear is serrated in both forms and gains a bonus against beasts regardless of what damage type is used
beasts are almost all weak to fire
fire+serrated = rape for 90% of the game
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>>154443951
does this look like a nioh general
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>>154443956
>Chikage
>Cool

Pick one.
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>>154444079
yes,no ,maybe?
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>>154443956
Come to think of it, few, if any weapons in BB are legit Quality. Then you have DaS3 where just about every weapon is quality.

Why can't From into moderation?
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>>154444135
Platinumfags are going to love this shitty game. Everyone else is going to drop it about as fast as LotF.

I can't wait to stop hearing about it already.
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>>154444115
>You
>Good Taste

Pick one
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>>154444237
https://www.change.org/p/koei-tecmo-bring-nioh-to-pc
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>>154444283
He's right though.

Only fags like the Chikagay.
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>>154443798
They're probably Mensis fuckers
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>>154444115
>Not like sabres
>Not liking weapons with an interesting gimmick and move set.
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>>154444382
It's the only fromsoft katana worth using t b q h
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>>154444828
>sabre
That's a katana, m8, though admittedly it is visually European. The weapons are pretty similar, the big difference being that katana's grips are larger, allowing for two-handing, while sabres are made especially for one-handing.
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>>154444828
It's a literal blood katana and its gimmick and moveset is HP drain and L1R1L1L1R1. It's a boring weapon and it's a fucking katana in Victorian England.

Besides, I love gimmick weapons. I main the Stake Driver.
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>>154444996
It has a katana blade with a sabre hilt upon clsoer inspection.
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>>154445118
>I main the stake driver
>I don't have shit taste
pick literally only one
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>>154445253
>Steak Dinner
>Shit taste

Reevaluate your life choices.
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>>154445320
>oh shit someone walked into my r2
Wow dude great weapon
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>>154445118
It's ok, I don't expect a stake driver user to understand the depth of having a weapon that uses both its forms
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>>154445127
The worst of both worlds. Interesting.

>>154445253
Stake Driver's pretty cool 2bqh.
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>>154445404
But... what? It's actually literally the opposite, Steak is fine in both forms and Chikage is only usable in one.

You must be joking.
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>>154444237
I've put more hours into Soulsborne than Plat games and it's honestly the only game I'm currently excited about.

This being said I entirely agree that it doesn't belong in /bbg/ and that nigger needs to cut it out.
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>>154445497
not when it comes to actual gameplay dude
stake is a poor man's saw as all you're going to do is r1, roll r1, or hope your opponent is retarded enough to walk into an r2
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>>154445586
>He doesn't know the intricacies of uncharged R2s, jump attacks and running attacks

No wonder you're talking shit about the Steak, you've literally never used it beyond swinging it at nothing and saying it's shit.
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>>154445586
>to actual gameplay dude
>What I really mean in super cereal peeveepee

Just say that next time.
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>>154443798
>There is one unique Amygdala and many Lesser Amygdalae
>Patches, worshipper and servant of Amygdala, is a spider, as well as being connected to the School of Mensis, like every other spider (apostle) we meet outside of chalice dungeons
>In chalice dungeons the highest concentration of them is in Loran; Amygdala is connected to Loran
>Lesser Amygdala have eight limbs

The gift of the godhead will grant you strength
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>>154445127
I don't think it's a sabre's hilt though, it's not short enough. I have a sabre right next to me and I cannot hold it with both hands unless they're on top of one another, while the Chikage is held with two hands in different locations.
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>>154445684
>All you do is l1r1l1r1l1r1
Whoa, it's like you've never used the chikage either
or more accurately, you oversimplified the chikage because it conformed to your bias that the weapon is shit but when it comes to the garbage known as the stake you have to consider all possible moves
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>>154445517
>Not using both forms of the Chikage.
>Implying Stakedriver has a moveset outside of charged R2's.
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>>154445586
>Using weapons based on how easy it is to use them rather than mastering something unwieldy

Bitch mode.
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Double-checking before I start savescumming
>get to boss fog in chalice
>go back to hunter's dream
>application saved data management
>upload bloodborne to cloud
>get back into game, kill bosses
>if gem sucks, download from cloud and fight again

These are just watchers at layer 1 so i think it might be faster to remake the chalice and open the gate.
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>>154446019
Steak is easy as fuck, all you do is roll catch with roll r1s
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>>154446048
>go back to hunter's dream
No. Save and quit right outside the fog.
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>>154445823
I have absolutely used the Chikage, and I absolutely hated it. It has shit for range and the only good move it has is the unzip. Everything else is too slow.

In Bloodborne, the only two kinds of attacks you should be using are either lightning quick or comically slow with goofy amounts of hyper armor. Anything in between just isn't worth it, at least as far as PvP is concerned.

>>154445898
>Ever using the limp noodle that is untricked Chikage
>Implying Chikage has a moveset outside of unzip
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>>154446075
That might work if all you do is invade scrubs. Do that in a proper FC and you'll be fucked harder than Arianna,
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>>154446146
r1 follow-ups are fast
r2 is fast
roll r1 is fast
you gave up on the chikage because the initial r1 is a shitty vertical hitbox that doesn't pop out of your weapon like the saw cleaver and the only way to get the range advantage is to risk your own health with an r2
>>154446278
Nigger where do you think I pvp for the most part, roll r1ing is the bread and butter of bb pvp and the stake has a fast roll r1
it's no saw so it isn't king of the meta but when you see a stake driver in an fc all they do is roll r1 or sit there hoping you'll walk into an r2
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>>154446382
Don't need to hope you'll run into an R2 when you're the kind of retarded scrub who rolls right into it voluntarily.
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>>154446613
I see you're really making a point here
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>>154446651
More than you Anon. You claim the R2 is just random hope whilst simultaneously claiming the bread and butter of PVP is the exact reason why using the R2 works.
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>>154446921
Just because the bb pvp meta is based around who can dash r1 the fastest doesn't mean they'll be dash r1ing into your slow ass charge attack
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>>154446979
Different anon, but that's just what a lot of people do, even people from /bbg/. Surely you've hit people with R2 followups, yes?
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>>154443951
>>154444135
I played the demo, but didn't know this kind of shit was possible. Can't wait for the game to come out and talk about it in its specific general.
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>>154447094
Hitting someone with an r2 follow-up is a little different as they're supposed to catch people off guard since the charge attack is 'over', but it's still just hoping the other person fucks up instead of actually landing something
Assuming your opponent is stupid to land an attack is stupid unless they've proven they're inexperienced and or retarded in which case the meta doesn't matter because you're fighting a retard
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>>154446979
Except letting it loose before it's fully charged to catch the retard off guard still does far more damage than your scrub dashing, not to mention it can be immediately followed by an untricked r2 which will catch you when you panic and try to get away.

But of course that never happens because you're super expert l33t and will teleport behind me. Let it go, Coldsteel.
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>>154447295
yes in your perfect hypothetical you countered my every moove
grats
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>>154447353
Your entire argument from beginning to end has been hypothetical.

Awoooooooooo
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Since we're bantering about pvp, how's the Amygdalan Arm? I've never seen anyone use it, and I've only seen it mentioned once or twice.
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>>154447664
there's a difference between saying that the way stake is used in pvp is mostly dash r1s and you literally constructing the perfect scenario to validate yourself, even ironically ending your scenario with me impossibly evading such a masterful combo
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>>154447813
It's okay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWLj55w64FY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbsdbwoMLCc
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Percentage gems or Flat gems?

Also, is damage from flat gems modified by percentage, or is the percentage damage added independently of the flat damage?
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>>154447813
it's pretty bad
the wacky waving finger form is ok because of the huge hitbox on the r1s but ultimately it doesn't do nearly as much damage as you'd want with max gems and the rest of the moveset is pretty weak
>>154448334
flat is added after the percent before defense
You want percentage gems unless you're gearing for a multihit attack like the wheel's tricked dash r1, but the ideal for most weapons is actually a mix of both
24.8% +15 is slightly more AR than 27% and will stay that way unless effected by a modifier of over 1.5x (meaning only charged r2s)
Of course 24.8% +15 gems are much more of a pain in the ass to grind than 27%s, at least for physical gems, so most people just grab the highest percent possible
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So who's the most bullshit boss in the game and WHY IS IT ORPHAN OF KOS RIGHT NOW FUCK
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>>154449485
BL?
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>>154449504
80
but i don't summon my first time beating a boss
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>>154449619
>80
Shit good luck dude. 100+'s are in here asking for help with him all the time.
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Say I wanted to make a Full-on Bloodtinge build, with the plan on using the Bloodletter and Chikage. How much STR and SKL would I want for those weapons? I'm assuming I'd want to go to the full 50 softcap for BLT.
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>>154449772
Going 50/x/14/15/50/x with military vet as the starting class leaves you at 95, if you want more end get to 15 so you're at an even 100
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>>154449485
Bloody Crow
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>>154449772
50 blt, 15 str, and 14 skl. You can't level str and skl enough for the untricked forms to be viable and still stay within the meta, so you just stay at the cap and level bloodtinge.
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>>154449914
>>154449960
I see. Thanks for the input.
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>>154449683
I'm sure my 18 VIT will be enough.
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>>154450260
>Orphan
>18 Vit
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>>154450378
My hunter right now.
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>>154448056
>constructing the perfect scenario to validate yourself
You said the R2 was just for pure luck and I pointed out how it can be used to effectively counter someone's dash R1ing by releasing before it's fully charged.

The fact you see this as some perfect constructed scenario is just sad Anon
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I have a +9 Hunter's pistol and I'm putting gems on it. I have 5 BLT so not a big deal but...
I have two BLT gems, a tempering damp with 8.8% phys and Blood atk up 11.3%
and a damp BLT with 15.1%

Why do I get +35 with the first and +31 with the second? Hunter's pistol has no listed physical attack, so shouldn't 15% Blood give more damage than 11% blood, regardless of additional phys %?
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>>154452373
Blood attack is technically a form of physical, like Thrust or Blunt. At least in regards to how gems work, I don't know if Beasthood affects BLT damage.
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>>154452594
Makes sense, thanks anon.
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>>154452594
Beasthood doesn't effect Bloodtinge damage, but it is considered Physical.
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>>154453234
What does it effect then, in terms of physical damage?
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What''s the best way to farm blood echos? Beat Lady Maria and up to Nightmare Frontier.
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>>154453552
That first big room of the fixed Lower Loran Chalice Dungeon with three Moon runes is worth about 90K. Takes about 40 seconds to clear; bout a dozen Old Yharnam beasts and one werewolf-looking beast.
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>>154453539
Normal Physical, Blunt and Thrust damage. Arcane and Bloodtinge do not get effected, so using Beastblood pellets on those builds is useless. Str/Arc weapons get a small boost but it's not worth it in my opinion.
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>Playing BB
>Running a random Central Pthu CD
>Suddenly notice how goddamn beautiful it is with the frequent use of darkness and light sources
>Wonder how in the fuck DaS3 took such a big big visual step backwards
Pic related.
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>>154454038
Torch looks better in the dark, especially in Loran.
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>>154454038
As a guy who just recently came back to playing BB again after a few months I will say that BB looks way better, but holy FUCK is it annoying when you kill and enemy and they slide into a wall or drop through the floor, makes farming a god damned bitch. Happens only like once out of every 50 or so enemies and it's ok if they're on a flat plane but I think in ALL my time playing DaS3 that only happened twice.
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>>154454268
Yeah floor and wall collision seems like kind of an issue for Miyazaki's team. Even back in DaS.

>>154454242
No joke.
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>>154454268
Another thing I noticed in BB apart from DaS3 is that the armor clips like a bitch for most pieces that aren't in their own set. Makes proper fashioning a bitch.
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>>154453552
If you haven't done anything with chalice dungeons yet, the students in the main room of the lecture hall give about 15k a run
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>>154454446
Eh, IDGAF about clipping. 99% of the time I don't even notice.
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>>154454654
I don't care about clipping with weapons and stuff, but for clothing it just feels wrong, especially since I'm trying to look fashionable anyway.
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>>154454446
>>154454732
As far as I know, armor and weapon clipping is actually pretty difficult to implement in games that have cloth physics and interchangeable equipment.

I agree that From seems to take a step backward somewhere with each new release, but in the case of BB vs DaS3 environments:
Bloodborne has a uniform aesthetic and setting. Every environment is designed to be eerie and horrifying, and often enough the effect is achieved the same way (in particular, piles and piles of rotted corpses clamoring away, or something) whereas the Souls games have to be more varied. Bloodborne takes place in one major city and some smaller surrounding areas, Souls takes place across different kingdoms.
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I just picked up a Cursed Fire Gem in a non-FRC Central Pthu. That isn't normal, is it?
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>>154449937
Amusingly, that gif is exactly how I dealt with him once I figured out how to bait his R1 consistently.
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>>154444967
>He doesn't know about the Rakuyo
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>>154443956
A true QUALITY BUILD in Bloodborne is 50 in all stats.
ALL

STATS
T
A
T
S
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>Kill Kos with 20 Vit, 1 blood vial left

9/10 2nd best fight in soulsborne
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>>154449485
something something Laurence
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>>154449485
Well Sharks
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so what's the deal with everyone in yharnam losing their legs
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>>154456949
>he thinks rakuyo is a katana
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>>154457958
If that mob isn't supposed to be a giant (I've never really taken notice of their relative head and torso size), I just assume they're rack victims.
Or zombies who ripped themselves apart digging themselves out and yanking themselves out of their graves.
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>Finally kill that fucking Shark Giant for the Rakuyo
>Hate its move set

Nothing's going to beat out the Kirkhammer for sheer versatility at this rate. Getting a bit sick of it though.
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>>154458320
>Hate its move set
U wot m8
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>hunter's axe
>balanced
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>>154451826
>All this shit taste
Delete all your saves and start all over again. Come back when you master the one and truly best weapon in the game.
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>>154458360
>Spam r1 the weapon

It's moves just have no variety, they're all quick with the same damage multipliers so I don't see a point in going into tricked mode.
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>>154459053
>I don't see a point in going into tricked mode.

>Uses Rakuyo
>Doesn't even go into tricked mode
>Doesn't know about the R2s

What in the actual fuck am I reading? It stuns the bejesus out of shit, it's second to none for applying elemental damage via Paper, and it stacks Beastblood at a breakneck pace.

2hand that shit, pump Arcane, use Hunter Tools, and forget you have a gun for anything but a free 5HP/sec regen.
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>pewdiepie literally killed Orphan of Kos at first try, blind, and with terrible runes and gems
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Found a Messenger Bath for Lost/Uncanny DLC weapons in Central Pthu if anyone wants the glyph, assuming it's not already in the doc.
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>>154459192
The untricked R1 is literally just alternating trick mode R1 and R2's they're the same speed and damage, except you can parry stuff.
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>>154459346
Alright buddy. Have fun with your shit opinions and whatever pleb weapon you end up with.
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>>154459215
/dsg/ here
dont make me dump my golden man folder
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>>154459412
>Kirk hammer
>Pleb weapon

Nice argument.
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>Finish DLC
>BB will never have new content
>will never have fun again

What do I do? There are no gems for this.
Guess I'll wait for Nioh
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>>154459329
There's already a glyph in the doc which has a shop on layer 1 in the very first Pthu chalice.
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>>154459412
>>154459532
Do I have to repeat myself? Just accept the truth and bask in the radiance of our Martyr!
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>>154459696
Ah, ok.
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>>154459913
>liking impractical anime weapons

>>>/out/
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>>154458436
People use moves besides the charged r2?
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>>154459215
no he didnt.

he just edited the video so it looks like he did. He enters the arena for the first time with 11 Vials and 10 bullets. Later cuts in the video have him with 20 bullets (possible if he was using Oedon Writhe), but then even later cuts show him with 5 vials, but the final clip where he kills Orphan he has 10 vials again.

Pewds is a fraud!
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>>154459962
I don't think you understand. This is not a discussion, it's a fact. All those other weapons are just there to look shitty in comparison. IT'S A MOTHERFUCKING WHEEL. A. WHEEL. You can't beat that, in fact, it beats you. It's the very top of close combat. You simply get close to the combat and everything else dies. It's already too late to leave with your pride, give up these silly ideals before you embarass yourself further.
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What's a more viable PvP build? Full arcane Kos Parasite or a generic str build? I know str has more options but the ayylium looks like a ton of fun to use.
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>>154461135
Full Arc using Cold Abyssals has access to just as many weapons as a STR build. In 3 elemental flavours as well, plus you get to be an Ayy-Lmao and use hunter tools.

Go Arcane.
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>>154461135
As you say, STR has more options, though you can always just make a low requirement weapons arcane, like the saws or saif, though you'll probably be called a shitter for using those.
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What's everybody doing?
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>>154461135
What BL are you aiming for? You can go at least 45/45 and do both if you go to 117.

>>154461408
Your mom.
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>>154461428
>Your mom.
Good for her, it's good she's getting back out there at her age.
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>>154461294
>>154461316

Thanks for the input, I'll probably go arcane then.

>>154461428

I'm probably aiming for BL98, and I already have a str/arc wheel and hms build, so I kind of just want to experiment with pure arc.
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How much is lvl 117 frowned upon here?
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>>154461916
Depends on the person. Some don't give a shit, others will want you crucified.
I don't think it matters too much most of the time. The extra stats in 117 are rarely used well enough to give a massive advantage over a 98 unless its something like a HMS build
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>>154463340
>unless its something like a HMS build
It is
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>>154463608
117 fags make me sick.
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>>154463926
>+210 to +331
Damn, that's insane.
No 21.5% gems even.
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>>154463926
My build has 70 ARC and 30 STR, and is only level 90. 117 shitters cant touch her.
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>>154464296
vitality and endurance?
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>>154464435
Not much higher than base assuming he isn't full of shit.
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If I make a saw cleaver fire, does it lose its serrated bonus?
Just asking since if I made a bolt church pick, it'd lose its thrust bonus.
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>>154467004
Actually you're wrong, they're different damage types so different answers. A fire cleaver keeps its serrated bonus because serrated is exactly that, a bonus, but a bolt pick would have thrust completely removed and replaced by bolt damage, because thrust is a damage type.
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Can't connect to bloodborne server, is anybody else having this issue?
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>>154464539
10 and 12, 13 Skill for the cannon and 5 BLT.

Characters name is Friendly Maidan, you may remember her from such FRC farming runs including "the time I got Insta-killed by Elder's crossbow <1 sec after entering fog....3 times in a row" and "stuck on Layer 1 Maneater Boar for an hour". But I killed a couple people in PVP and my HMS l2 does 1200+ damage to Watchers, so it was all worth it.

>>154467004
Thrust isn't a bonus, it's a damage type. Serrated isn't a damage type, it's a bonus effect. For example Beast Cutter is all Blunt damage, but is also serrated. Church Pick and Saw Spear have thrust attacks, but are also serrated (don't ask why the Church Pick is, just accept it).

The reason Thrust is good against Ayy's is because they all have low Thrust defense. The reason beasts are weak to Serrated is because serrated causes a 20% increase in damage on any enemy flagged "beast", regardless of Defense stats.

Converting a serrated weapon to bolt/fire/arcane will swap out any Phys/Thrust/Blunt damage for elemental, but the serrated bonus still applies. Think of serrated as having a forth gem slot that's always filled with a mediocre Beast Hunter gem.
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Do you lads have any good lore vids to recommend?
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>>154461408
Taking a shit
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>>154467648
Just checked this, logged in just fine
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Anyone up for NG+3 TOR?

Pass is kosm.
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>>154469578
It's working for me now, but for about an hour I was having issues
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>>154469701
On my way friend
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Guys I think I've figured out why the Moon Presance sent us to sabotage a ritual that appeared to doing good stuff.

> People theorised that MP wanted Mergo dead due to jealousy
> Or because the thought of a surrogate child made it horny as all fuck this one always baffled me, wouldn't a horny Old One with maternal instincts want Mergo alive?
> Mergo's cries were keeping it awake at night and it hired an immortal killer to put it down

But we missed the most obvious answer of all: Moon Presance doesn't want to be replaced.

> goes apeshit when faced with a human with "Eyes on the Inside"
> After killing it (easily with our OP chalice gems) we become a Great One
> Doesn't want anyone to obtain this power

Now, what exactly was the purpose of the Mensis Ritual? Bird dogs? Dog Birds? Memes? No, it was
> "grant us eyes, grant us eyes. As you once did for the Vaccous Rom, play eyes on our brains to cleanse this beastly idiocy"
Michalosh was praying for exactly what the Hunter eventually gets: enough insight to fully ascend.

If Moon Presance goes from friendly hugs to boss-fight the moment it detects our powerlevel, then it follows that once it got wind of what Mensis was attempting it would really want to stop them. Want to stop them so much it would send a random foreigner on an adventure across Yharnam to kill the Nightmare Newborn "required" for the ritual.
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Does anybody know if off-shape gems are possible from chests?
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>>154469701
At the fog? I'll be right there.
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>>154470246
He's already down.
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>>154470162
To add to this, Mensis (being an offshoot of Byrgenwerth and connected to Laurence's church) knew exactly how to ascend.
>The nameless moon presence beckoned by Laurence and his associates. Paleblood.
>Hunt the Great Ones, hunt the Great Ones.
>Three third chords.
Which would explain exactly why Moon Presence has a penchant for using foreigners and not those native to Yharnam who might have this information going in.
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>>154470162
But great ones are sympathetic in nature
why would MP be a jerk?
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>>154470565
>But great ones are sympathetic in nature

Reminder that this is a human perspective in a cosmic horror story
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>>154470880
Reminder that item descriptions are word of god and thus exempt from perspective.
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>>154470880
no no no
time and time again big M doesn't go with the usual lovecraft M O with the great ones, see ebrietas for exemple.
heck they even help us go beyond to kin level
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>>154470565
Just because you're sympathetic in nature doesn't mean you're going to sit back and do nothing when people are trying to kill you.
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>>154470978
Source?

>>154471001
Then explain why the Great Ones happily let us go about committing the same mistakes as the Pthumerians and people of Loran, make no attempt at communicating back and require us to turn people in ayylmaos to talk and even then don't stop us from destroying our civilization.

They want something, we want something, we can give them children, they can give us all the spooky eldritch shit we want, that is the extent of their 'sympathetic' nature.
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>>154470173
Bump
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>>154470565
>>154470880

> Sympathetic in nature and will answer when called upon

Great Ones have shared stuff with humans, including regrettable gifts like Gehrman's current existance, but as soon as MP notices you are an actual threat to it, he turns into a cunt.

It's like a dog, you give it treats and play with it, but you know it's always going to be beneth you and under your control. But if one day you woke up to your dog wearing a suit and walking on two legs, and explaining in perfect English that he replaced you at your job and was going to marry your sister, you'd treat him differently.
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>>154471318
No idea,

But the correct thing to do would be to open it 500 times and post results here in a nice formatted table with the occurances of each variable, (rarity, curse, secondary effect, shape). We can't give answers to these questions until someone proves them by doing extensive tests.

Same as 23% Nourishings discussion from yesterday. They do exist, but a lot of people didn't know that.
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>>154471292
The description on the Moon rune says, and I quote, "The Great Ones that inhabit the nightmare are sympathetic in spirit, and often answer when called upon."

So yes, trying to connect some kind of human meaning to the motives of Great Ones is pointless, but to say they're all a bunch of dicks is just plain wrong.
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>>154471889
Well I'm on about my 20th savescum, trying. No luck yet, if it's possible.
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>>154472361
You're the guy looking for Flat fire gems, right?

There is no reason Loran Clerics shouldn't be able drop offshapes, every other enemy and boss can (even Winter Lanterns which defeats the purpose of a droplet). But chests are an unknown factor.

Maybe you could try Madmen with x2 secondary. That's 30 flat fire and 21% isn't it? They CAN drop offshapes, but getting correct primary/secondary/curse on top of ~1% offshape rate isn't feasible.

What's it for anyway? An L2-only Whirligig?
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So, anybody who has used a Kos Parasite in here, can you tell me any tips for it during PVP? How often am I going to see myself using the L2?
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Why do people go for bolt Church Pick when thrust is an amazing damage type?
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>>154473524
Flat bolt gem. There's a chest with a flat +71 bolt that I'm savescumming in hopes of getting an offshape for my twink. (since flat damage is preferable)
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>>154473627
Because they think that the thrust bonuses still apply like serrated does, which would make a bolt Pick the perfect Kin killer. I went through the same thing acquiring, upgrading, and bolting a Lost Stake Driver before learning that the thrust goes away when bolt comes in and then realising all those attacks I thought were thrust attacks weren't actually thrust attacks,
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>>154473627
Golly gee anon, why would people who can't make use of physical damage convert a weapon to elemental?
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>>154473627
Because Church Pick has a 10/10 moveset and if you are converting to Bolt you are obviously an arcane build so SKL scaling will be shit. The thrust does disapear, but the 15 Flat Physical from the Radial Cold Abyssal will still be thrust, and since Little Blue Ayy's have 0 Thrust defense it doesn't get eaten entirely by stats.

Almost pointless? Yes, but that's damage you won't have on a converted Saw or Saif
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>>154473538
Tricked Dash R1 is going to be your primary Melee Attack.
>Fast startup
>Fast recovery
>Longest reach of it's moveset (at least when melee is concerned)

A good suprise attack
Doesn't leave you open for as long as other melee attacks.
And once the first hit connects it can be easily chained into itself.
It's really spammable
Also making great in pressuring

Use the L2 when your opponent tries to close in on you.
It works amazing when you bait them in corridors

Beware thou:
L2 can be parried easily due to its multi-hit nature, giving it a huge parry window. (Thou most people don't know this since it looks projectile-based)
And extremely heavy weapons like Tricked LHB can stagger-cancel it.

Becouse of it's devoius and tricky nature.
Kos Parasite works Amazingly for regular invasions (at least with the right Gems and BL)
When the PvP's no-healing etiquette, is mosty ignored.
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Bloodborne 2 teaser coming from Japan sony studio at TGS
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>>154475305
>Bloodborne 2 made by the people who brought us Dark Souls 2 whilst Miyazaki works on his new project

Pls no
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>>154475401
>with collaboration from the producers of Lords of the Fallen
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>>154475401

It will be VR too
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>>154475401
>Implying people can't learn from their mistakes
>Implying Miyazaki can't suffer from the George-Lucas Effect (after being treatet like a game-developing god) like... Shigeru Miyamoto.
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>>154475401
>>154475597
>>154475607
That's not even fucking funny
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>>154474669
>>154474038

So adding elemental gems makes it sorta like the lightning and dark infusions from DkS3? Can you do this on builds that aren't arcane viably?
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>>154476306
You can only make good use of converting to elemental if you have high arc.
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Where the pvp at?tried nightmare church,fishing gulag and nothing.
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>>154476306
Putting an elemental gem on a pure physical weapon (split damage weapons won't work) will convert 100% of the weapons base damage to that element. Elemental damage scales off Arcane, which is why every weapon has listed Arcane scaling. Phys damage scales off STR/SKL.

So a +10 Ludwigs will go from having 200 physical damage with B/B scaling in STR/SKL to 200 bolt/fire/arc damage with A scaling in ARC. Both scalings are technically active at all times, but increasing 0 elemental damage by any % is still 0, and vice versa for physical scaling on a elemental gemmed weapon.

So, no. It's not viable to convert without decent Arcane investment because you are missing out on all scaling.
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>>154477087
Middle Loft and Nightmare Frontier.
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>>154477289
What's the point of going str/skill when you can go arcane then?
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Does clothing/armor actually matter? It feels like it barely affects the damage I take.
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>>154378369
Maybe I should level my 98 skill build to 100 so I can use some blt weapons
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>>154478065
Sometimes. If you stack defences against a certain damage type (for example, putting on full Henryk's for bolt resistance before fighting a darkbeast) then you'll take noticeably less damage, but there's no way to really cover all bases. The resistant stats are useful though, stacking frenzy resist makes certain enemies world's easier and if you're using Beast Blood Pellets or Claws you'll want to stack Beasthood to over 300 to make the most out of it.
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>>154381729
Started NG+ on my str build, might make a skill blt build for rifle spear and reiter or finish my arc build
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>>154470565
MP was pissed the her darling Oedon-kun cucked her for some Pthumerian skank
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>>154478065
if you're not wearing anything you'll notice a difference. Generally speaking wearing clothing can negate 20-25% percent of physical damage. but since all of the stats on armour are mostly fairly close together(besides shit like foreign set, sweaty garb and doll set), what exactly you wear isn't all that important. The defense difference between wearing white church for fashion and beast hide for max defense is pretty much negligable. just don't be wearing nothing at all.

It's also good for stacking resist against status effects and elemental damage. white church set is great for poison, ashen hunter set and beak mask are great for frenzy, bone ash is great for fire resist etc.
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>>154478028
Because their eyes have yet to open.
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>>154478065
>>154478347
Ah, I see. Thanks guys. Time to get a little fashionable.
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>>154447156
me neither
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>>154478028
Weapon requirements. You still need 16 STR to swing a Ludwig Blade even if it does 0 physical damage.

There are also split damage weapons that benifit from STR and ARC. Moonlight Sword, Tonitrus, Boomhammer and WHEEL all work best with high stats in both STR/ARC.
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>Mergo's Wet Nurse is a great one

It was literally the easiest boss fight in the game what the fuck.
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>>154481462
witch of hemwick is the easiest
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>>154481462
I wouldn't go quite THAT far. It killed me on the first try simply because I didn't realize yet how one-dimensional the fight really is. I killed some other bosses first try like Witch of Hemwick, Vicar Amelia, One Reborn, Paarl, Shadows of Yharnam, Micolash... I killed a lot of bosses first try actually now that I think about it, but not the Wet Nurse, amusingly.
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>>154481851
>I killed a lot of bosses first try actually now that I think about it
same, I either beat them on the first try or the 10th, with not much in between
i still love the bosses in this game, except witch for being boring and blood-starved beast/ludwig because they always ream my asshole
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>>154481462
Celestial Emissary was easier. And according to the Trophies is also a Great One.
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>>154483445
>Dying to Bloodstarved Beast
>Literally forward+left the boss
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>>154483445
>blood-starved beast
Fucking THANK YOU! Despite the number of bosses I was able to kill fairly easily, that fucking asshole was a nightmare for me. I'm on my way to him now in NG+ and I'm wondering if I'll have a hard time again or not. The internet seems to think that's one of the easier bosses but not me, man. BSB and Logarius gave me the most shit of any of them. Ludwig was tough too but I thought he got a lot easier when he transformed.
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>>154483635
He's fucking scary the first handful of times you fight him, no one goes in knowing strategies for bosses. He's easy to us now, but he was hard as balls when you fought him the first time, maybe even second and third in NG+ and chalices, THEN he was easy.
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>>154483712
Logarius is legit hard, he has no real elemental weaknesses or anything, you can parry him, though.
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>>154484735
>you can parry him, though
Yeah that's how I ended up getting him. It took me basically all game long to get competent at parrying but by the time I got to Maria I pretty much had it, thankfully, or I'd have been in serious fucking trouble with her.
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>>154484863
Maria has one strategy for near perfect success: beast roar + whirligig L2. Augur of Ebrietas works, too.
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>>154485060
Huh, this sounds like fun. I'll try to remember for next time.
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>>154485170
It's pretty much the origin of the bully meme, beast roar her into a corner and go to town, roar when you're out of stamina, back off when she powers up, roar her back on, rinse and repeat it. Any R1 spam works well, but the Whirli L2 works best.
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how active is this game's online? is it worth sinking the money for PS+ if i've never done so before?
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>>154486549
It's pretty active. Random coops and invasions are fairly common in most areas, and /bbg/ has fight clubs every Saturday that are pretty active.
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LORAN IS TOO STRONG
I need help with the Blood-starved Beast.
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>>154486825
I'm in Loran right now too m8 but I haven't gotten to BSB yet. Didn't know that asshole was one of the bosses here. Just picking up ritual materials on the first layer now.
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>>154487163
Yeah, I haven't been down this far either. I came because I wanted Bastards for Defiled. Holy shit this place is beautiful. There's so many fucking echoes too, but it's kind of bastard hard.
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>>154486825
HOW TO BEAT BSB

Step one: Lock on
Step two: Hold forward+left

Congratz, you've beaten BSB.

I'm not even joking, it's actually that easy.
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>>154487373
I prefer going around the right
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>>154487373
Not him but what got me the most my first playthrough in Old Yharnam was toward the end with the poison clouds and shit. Plus he gets a lot faster. Before that it wasn't so bad. I'm a lot fucking better at the game than I was then, though, so we shall see.
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So does everyone still use the 98 meta or has everyone moved on? I'm sure there's not a consensus among the entirety of bbg but I was just curious since I was considering taking my skill build up to 10 Bloodtinge for even more weapon variety
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>>154487664
I took mine to 10 BLT and hit lvl 98 with 50 VIT and 50 SKL, how did you distribute your stats?
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>>154487373
tch. okay I'll TRY IT.

>>154487513
Loran is like Old Yharnam on steroids, it's kind of amazing.
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Tips for arcane build? No DLC yet.

I'm planning to do a gentleman's build with the threaded cane, but from what I understand the early game isn't nice to arcane builds.
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>>154487749
At least there's no gatling gun.
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>>154487749
It's fairly amazing to think of how far I've progressed in the game and usually feel it when fighting BSB.
It was one of the toughest bosses on my first playthrough and during my chalice run, gave me a hard time.
But now, when running FRC chalices and BSB comes out as a random L1 or 2 boss, it's just inconsequential. Same applies to hot dog, had a hugely difficult time with that, now it's just a bump in the road.

>>154487837
Are you going pure ARC or STR/ARC?
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>>154487837
what i did was get a weapon with good arcane scaling as fast as possible and then bolted through the cup dungeons
you'll get at least one fire gem in the starter one
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>>154487943
Probably ARC. Logarius Wheel is tempting, but I think I want to stick with pure arcane.
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>>154487725
I think my build is 50/19/15/50/8/6 at 98, but I made it a while ago so I wasn't really considering stuff like the reiter/rifle spear but now I've got so many blood gems I could easily gem up a few more weapons
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>>154487749
my weapon almost broke
alright eye'm gonna need a BUDDY
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>>154487837
See >>154395464 for the guide. Standard Threaded Cane doesn't have a waning, and Uncanny is down in a Fetid Central Pthumeru Root, but you can still put the two fire radials from Hotdog on the basic Cane.
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>>154488051
See:
>>154395464
If going full ARC, you're going to want elemental gems ASAP and you'll have to rely on the flamesprayer a lot early game.


>>154488140
Ah, this is my build
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>>154487837
Upgrade Saw Spear, level Vit before touching Arc, kill BSB, run Pthumeru twice for fire gems, get the fire gem from the lower Yharnam section beneath Healing Church Workshop, you now have a fire spear. Level Arc and use the fire spear to get what you need for your build.
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>>154488224
Yeah, I was thinking of making a new build with 50/25 skill/Bloodtinge to use stuff like the reiter and bowblade but I figured if I just took my skill build up 2 levels I could play around with them too
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>>154395464
>bri and abortion
What are those?
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>>154488547
Well, while 98 is the meta, people go up to 117 for an even bigger advantage while remaining within the range of the 98's, though you might get some shit for doing that from /bbg/
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>>154488686
>98 is the meta
Not the fag you're replying to but wtf does this mean? I see it a lot around here. I'm in the lower 120's. Is there a reason when playing NG+ to stop leveling? Or are you strictly talking Fight Club? Either way what does meta mean in this context?
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>>154488672
Ebrietas and the One Reborn.
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>>154488672
Ebby and TOR
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>>154488164
I DID IT
NEVER MIND
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>>154488672
>bri

Ebrietas

>abortion

One Reborn, that took me a second
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>>154489045
Fight club/PvP in general.
Our meta is 98, some is 120 and shitters go to 150.
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>>154489245
Why do you say meta? I don't get it.
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>>154489319
Don't think too hard on the literal definition of the word "meta". In gaming terms, it's been around a long time to reference something a lot of the community tend to stick with for various reasons.

Some say it's an abbreviation of "most effective tactic available" but I don't know much about that.
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>>154489528
Meta comes from metaphysics, which comes from a misunderstanding of the Greek metaphysika, which just referred to works that came after Aristotle's Physics, but somehow got interpreted as "the science of what is beyond the physical" by Latin translators.

So meta in gaming terms refers generally to the overarching idea that everyone's following, usually because it's the most effective. BL98 is the "meta" because it forces optimization while still allowing customization, and dodges overleveled 150s and the like, so most people here will follow that overarching idea.

Similarly, weapon's "meta" is the general idea to be thinking about when using that weapon. One could say unzips is the Chikage's "meta", for example.
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Beast Roar is based. Wish I'd bumped up my arcane during my first playthrough tbqh.
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35 hours till Bloodborne 2 announcement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5o6hZiksHc
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how do i kill abhorrent beast
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>>154490957
hit him harder
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>>154490957
Trick him into playing fetch with you.
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>>154490357
What do you use it for? I see it on Beast Claws but how good is it on other weapons?
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>>154491650
I didn't realize the weapon mattered? I mainly use the axe though. With a quick aggressive enemy, the knockdown can buy time and space for a good windup.
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>>154491650
It's good for any weapon. Both my Skl and Str setups have 15 Arc for that, slug rubbing, and messenger gift.
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>>154491939
It doesn't really. People I see use it typically use beast claws because of its quick attacks and passive beasthood ability
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>>154491650
On my arc build, I use Beast Roar to set up moonbeams by forcing the opponent to either roll and eat an R2 or don't and eat a charged R2.

It's super versatile, you can use it for all kinds of things. It's really the only reason to level arc to 15, since Empty Phantasm Shell doesn't do much and Old Hunter Bone doesn't last long enough.
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>>154492128
>slug rubbing
Kek. That took me a second. I haven't used that much yet. Does it just convert damage type or does it add attack?
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>>154492391
I keep forgetting the Bone when I could use it but it looks tight. Good against a lot of bosses I bet?
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>>154492408
Adds 80 Arc for a minute. It ain't much but it's worth three bullets.
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>>154492817
Bolt/fire paper is the better choice
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>>154492937
I prefer EPS just for the convenience of not having to replenish supply.
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Does anyone actually ever heed the advice of notes telling you to turn back? I'm just like "nah m8 I don't believe you" every time.
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>replaying Bloodborne
Central Yharnam always feels hard in the beginning.
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>>154493539
Practically never.

If there really is nothing worth seeing, I actually want to go and make sure of it myself.

I can't say I don't regret it sometimes, though.
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>>154493630
It's kind of a large and confusing first area, man. I just started NG+ and was like wow I'd forgotten how much there is to this place.
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Anyone up to run through Cainhurst? Doing it low level sucks and I'd like some company.
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>>154494507
Pass?
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>>154493696
Kek exactly...
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>>154483635
>implying /bbg/ wasn't getting their asses wrecked by him the first few days BB dropped
I remember a whole lot of people saying how much he killed them back in the day. Say what you will now but a lot of people in this general weren't the Bloodmaster generals they are now.
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>>154494746
bbg. I'll be at the first lantern.
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>>154495098
Cool, give me a couple minutes.
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>>154495185
I'd like to get all the items too if you don't mind.
I'm just the kinda guy that likes to 100% every area I come across.
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>>154495306
I personally said fuck it to the items in the courtyard because of those goddamn lickers. I'm not the fag joining you so don't worry about my input but yeah I hate those things and the items are inconsequential.
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>>154495306
I don't mind. Ringing now.
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Are Dream invasions/Hoonter invasions even possible now /bbg/?

I used to get them all the time last year, now the game is forcing me to help people.
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>>154488051
You're gonna want the DLC then.
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>>154495649
Wait, you mean invade people in the Hunter's Dream?

Fuck, I'd love if we could hold an FC there
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Anyone up for Martyr Logarius? Pass is kosm.
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>lag so bad the same Gargoyle grabs us both
Ringing again.
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>>154495617
If you're still around, I'm in the same room with those ghosts.
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The Beast Possessed Soul should not be hard but I've died twice. Am I just off my game?
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>>154496741
>Silencing blank
Well ok anon
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>>154497170
Wasn't me. My bell is still ringing.

Maybe your internet got fucky? I saw you come in, but nobody showed up.
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>>154497257
>got double hit by the summoned orb
Well that was embarrassing
That's only ever happened when I get summoned though
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>>154496869
Damn, forgot the tracking on the third hit. Ringing again if you don't get him.
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>>154468167
Different anon but wondering this as well.

I'm a lore novice looking to get into the story before beginning NG+
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DAMN! So close. He was just 2 more viscerals away from dead.
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How do you guys pronounce Ebrietas?
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>>154497997
Eb-REE-tas
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>>154496904
I have trouble with him sometimes, not sure what it is
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Thanks for the help Dante.
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>>154497997
EE-bre-tas, though I'm probably way off. That's just what feels right to me.
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>>154498058
I think it's eh-BRY-eh-tas with four syllables but I can see a few ways, including yours.
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>>154497997
eh-bree-tus
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>>154497997
I've seen a bunch of possibilities, Eb-REE-eh-tas, Eb-RAY-a-tas, Eb-REE-a-tas, and more small differences. I just say Eb-RAY-a-tas.
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>>154497787
Thanks a ton bro. He would have been a nightmare to fight with 20 vit.
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>>154498214
No problem man, unfortunately thats how I started off my last summon attempt with him, Im way too impatient when im co-oping
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>>154498469
>Eb-REE-eh-tas
I use this
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Son of a bitch. I thought I had every weapon now that I picked up the Beast Claw just now but I don't have Rosmarinus. Didn't get that badge and I'm on NG+ now. Will be a while until I get back to the upper cathedral ward, too.
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>>154500316
If you'd like an extra hand to help speed up the process, I'd be happy to join you. Cooperative hunting is far more fun, I think.
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>>154500502
Thanks bro but I'm not totally here.
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For your PVP builds, when do you start farming for the gems you need? I'm assuming the gems you're looking for come from the later/harder chalices, so I'm guessing around Nightmare of Mensis?
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Reminder that:
>Old Hunters DLC is pinnacle of soulsborne
>there will never be more Bloodborne Content
>The Souls series is fading in quality
>Your only hope of experiencing the horror, sorrow, despair, thrill, immersion, and satisfaction of soulsborne is in DaS3 DLCs
>which will suck except for the last one
>you will never have fun again
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>>154501168
Most of the best gems come from Pthumeru Ihyll, which you can access until you've gotten to Mergo's Loft in the main game.
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>>154501168
>>154501679
>which you can access
Can't*.

You might get use from >>154429620
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>>154501679
Ah, I got it.

That being said, what's the optimal level for going through the Defiled Chalice? 98, for the meta and no higher?
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>>154501525
I've never even played Souls other than Bloodborne so I have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>154501525
I can always go back and replay DaS and BB, I guess.

I really hope Miyazaki branches out and does another souls spinoff like he did with BB.
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Where are all the NPC's for the chapel? I only found one of them my first time through. Might as well scoop them up in my NG+ I guess.
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>>154501865
It depends on skill and whether you're doing them alone, I guess. Going through them at lower levels isn't impossible if you score some good gems, but obviously the longer you wait the easier it will be.

I don't tend to farm up to PvP level until Lower Loran, so I'm typically done with Defiled Pthu somewhere in the 60-70s.
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>>154501865
Different anon, level doesn't matter that much in Defiled since you'll be one-two shotted even if you had 20 or 50 Vitality. 98 is alright, still possible even lower. Just make sure you'll be doing enough damage with okay gems and a +9 or +10 weapon.
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>>154475401
>wanting anything from Miyazaki after DS3
He's completely lost his touch.
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>>154502151
Old Woman is right at the entrance to the building that leads into the Aqueduct (the same building Eileen is in).

The slut and the douche are in the back alley that runs along the stairs to the Great Cathedral, and the cannibal is in the Forbidden Woods near the Cannon in the lighthouse.
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>>154501525
They are working on another thing with Sony Japan. I just hope for something the tier of BB Old Hunters.
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>>154502364
I'm the fag who's only played Bloodborne but I can't help but ask, how bad could DS3 possibly be? It looks cool...
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>>154502624
It's really not that bad. It's just ...not good. It doesn't really bring anything spectacular to the table. It's very safe.

It's probably the easiest Souls game and it doesn't look as good as BB, and most of the game is a step backwards therefrom.
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>>154502624
It seems like they slapped Miyazaki onto the game to sell more copies if anything.

It's the DaS2 team that made it and they had time/budget this time and they fucked it up AGAIN.
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>>154502624
i think a lot of people are just disappointed that its a return to souls format and feels nothing like bloodborne. i think DS3 is the better game overall, although BB's core mechanics are definitely superior.

DS3 has infinitely more options for online play and a lot more replayability
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>>154502624
It's just boring. It's quantity over quality, everything feels rehashed and tired. BB was fresh and weird and exciting, DS3 is just more castles, more ruins, it is most certainly not the sum of its parts. It has some neat ideas marred by an overall pretty average experience. I played through twice, one again for NG+ just to see what it was like, but I have no drive to pick it up again.

>>154502915
>a lot more replayability

I honestly don't understand and wish to know why you think so.
>>
THESE ARE FACTS AND YOU CAN FUCK OFF IF YOU DISAGREE

DeS: Masterpiece best game in the "souls" series
DaS1: Amazing first half but god fucking awful second half slowed down the pace of the formula added in shit like poise etc
DaS2: A royal fucking mess unfinished game a few good ideas but a fucking terrible game overall.
DaS3: Blatent cashgrab using BB's core mechanics and slapping them onto souls which did not work at all. Variety is a meme that needs to fuck off.
BB: Evolution from the foundations set from Demon's souls and hopefully will be expanded on in another original IP.

Signed. Someone with over 8k hours in the series played since 2009.
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Micolash is LITERALLY impossible.
Ludwig was easy by the way.
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>>154475896
read any interview with him
dude has the humbleness of the poor perk
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>>154503252
>Micolash is LITERALLY impossible
I unironically beat him on my first try. He was annoying but easy.
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>>154497997
how they sing in the ost
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>>154503252
I know that feel bro.

>>154503213
>DeS: Masterpiece best game in the "souls" series
Yes.
>DaS1: Amazing first half but god fucking awful second half slowed down the pace of the formula added in shit like poise etc
Eh. I think people exagerate the whole 'good first half fuckingawfulit'slikei'mbeingliterallycrucified second half thing. I love the entire game.
>DaS2: A royal fucking mess unfinished game a few good ideas but a fucking terrible game overall.
Yes.
>BB: Evolution from the foundations set from Demon's souls and hopefully will be expanded on in another original IP.
And, yes.
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How should I gem my church pick? All thrust, 2 thrust 1 phys up, 1 thrust and 2 phys up, or all phys up? I'm partial to using both forms pretty fluidly
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>>154503586
Don't both forms only/predominantly use Thrust?
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>>154503567
It's more the fact it was pretty disappointing to me after how amazing DeS was.
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>>154503213
>DeS: Masterpiece best game in the "souls" series
If I could call a single boss fight besides Allant and Astraea(both god-tier by the way) good, then yes, otherwise no. My experience was certainly soured since I played DaS1 and DaS2 first. Also the sum of the parts is less than the parts themselves, because the individual areas have fuck all to do with each other.

>DaS1: Amazing first half but god fucking awful second half slowed down the pace of the formula added in shit like poise etc
I enjoyed the second half of the game just as much as the first, but I'm personally blinded by nostalgia since it was my first.

>DaS2: A royal fucking mess unfinished game a few good ideas but a fucking terrible game overall.
Undeniably so.

>DaS3: Blatent cashgrab using BB's core mechanics and slapping them onto souls which did not work at all. Variety is a meme that needs to fuck off.
I enjoyed it more than the other Dark Souls games, but this is an opinion fight after all. The linearity and lack of inter-connectivity is pretty terrible, but it's strange that people care because Demon's Souls is quite similar in that regard.

>BB: Evolution from the foundations set from Demon's souls and hopefully will be expanded on in another original IP.
The best for me.
>>
>>154503213
>DeS
"Pick and choose" world design, worst combat mechanics by far, bosses are whatever
>DaS1
Flawed masterpiece, literally nothing wrong with second half.
>DaS2
Good game by all means, but not excellent like DaS1. Primarily because of clunkier mechanics and lack of atmosphere. Mostly forgettable, which makes it the best game in the series lore-wise because fading memories was the game's theme, 9/10
>DaS3
Good implementation of the better parts of 1 and 2, but also incorporates their weaknesses and takes backward steps of its own. combat is most refined in souls, but bosses and level design is lackluster. potential for greatness with DLC (see:Bloodborne effect, DaS2 third DLC)

>BB
Best project by From, horrifyingly immersive and everything good about it is insanely good, but everything bad about is insanely bad, e.g. CD grinds, online play, short, lack of variety. Old Hunters DLC was exactly what the game needed, otherwise most people would consider a 7-8/10 and moved on by now
>>
Anyone want to give me a hand with Loran layer 2? I turned down someone who wanted to party earlier...
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>>154504328
your opinion on 2 is so wrong it makes me sad
>>
>>154504328
Bloodborne is a literal 10/10 with or without the DLC.
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>>154504328
>lack of variety

Nigger what?
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>>154502915
>DS3 has a lot more replayability
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>>154504974
>Nigger
Basketball-American
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>>154505062
I'll re-phrase that

Basketball-American what?
>>
start a new thread somebody
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>>154505637
>>154505637
>>154505637
>>154505637
>>154505637

New bread
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>>154504328
>DeS wose than dks2

Kill yourself
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>>154505209
He's not wrong. One 'magic' system with only 8 'spells', like 12 weapons and three of 'em share movesets. Every character has to go down the same chalice grind.

You can see everything BB has to show you in just a few-dozen hours.
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>>154504328
>DaS2
>Good game by all means, but not excellent like DaS1. Primarily because of clunkier mechanics and lack of atmosphere. Mostly forgettable, which makes it the best game in the series lore-wise because fading memories was the game's theme, 9/10
Opinion Discarded come back later when you don't like eating shit.
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>>154505537
>Telling people to start a new thread instead of just making it yourself

You are the problem.
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>>154504596
The "lore-wise 9/10" bit was mostly a joke but no, I'm not wrong. Good game, just suffers from having huge shoes to fill. If it were standalone, like DaS /was/, people would think much, much better of it.

>>154504746
No it isn't. Here's why:
>>154504974
BBs environmental elements are great for the first few levels but it's pretty apparent they are the only ones From could come up with (DLC not included). Every area, with the exception of Cainhurst, uses the same nuances to create the atmosphere. The same piles of corpses, the same "dark corner with a dog in it", the same "spooky alien unexpectedly in a place more human than its surroundings". Weapons are cool and all, but for the most part your button inputs hardly ever change.

Sans DLC, Bloodborne really does just 'blend together'
>>
>>154505845
Yeah but you're wrong though. Dude if Bloodborne doesn't have enough flavor for you then I just don't even know what to tell you.
>>
>>154505978
Don't get me wrong, I had an amazing experience playing through bloodborne the first time and loved it, easily one of my favorite games. Maybe my problem is that I played through too many times in too short a time.
But honestly, the base game presents a formula that works really well but then doesn't implement that formula into anything new.
You can mix and match pieces of most levels and not actually change the experience at all (assuming you also tint the lighting to match).
Fuck, taking Cainhurst entirely out of the game wouldn't effect any other area at all, save for some lore notes.
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>>154496491
Sort of.

You can ''invade'' people in the Dream as hostile summons using the Hoonter/Vilecuck/Illuminati covenants.

However I haven't pulled off a Hoonter hostile co-op or a Dream ''invasion'' since last year despite 100s of attempts. Idk wtf is going on desu
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>>154502364
DS3 was made whilst Miyazaki was making Bloodborne. He just jumped in to help out with the last year of it and they attached his name to it because it would sell more.
>>
Is Orphan's umbilical sword damage physical? I've never fought him with so little Vit and the rape is real
>>
>>154504328
>Mostly forgettable, which makes it the best game in the series lore-wise because fading memories was the game's theme, 9/10
Kek. Don't know why people are giving you shit though. Also:
>not 9/11
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