/4xg/ - Stellaris, Civilization & Dead Communities General

>>148448093
Of course I mess up.
This was the last thread >>148152190

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How do we fix 1UPT?

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>>148448182

>>148448748
Nah, it's perfect.

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>>148448783
I made literally all but 2 of the past 7 or so threads and it died the other two times while I was asleep, make it yourself for once or drop the smug

>>148448748
they already have, in civ 6.

>>148448748
Different grid for improvements/civil units vs military units or dont be fucking retarded and use limited stacks

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>>148448920


I swear this nose is so fucking ugly

>>148448748
vast maps with loadsa tiles and more than 2 movement points

>>148448748

By introducing armies with limited size and giving civilian stacks unlimited size so I wont get another (#*&%^(##@! crying that worker cant continue making road, because some AI civilian unit is on the same title or my own worker is making improvement at that place right now.

Workers are not fermions, for fuck sake.

Following the question from previous thread - are there any other sites with mods for Rising Tide than Civ Fanatics and, of course, Steam Workshop?

All cool custom, mod sponsors are base game only, not updated for RT (aka, having base trait without levels) and Im afraid that they might not work anymore.

>>148449045
The nose knows.

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>>148448182

>Playing as a Collectivist Slaver
>Surrounding races are all Democratic Crusaders

Fucks sake

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julius caesar or trajan

>>148456121
With that nose, I'd say Caesar.

>>148456121
Looks like Asterix and Obelix style Caesar

>>148452382

Please respond ;_;

I dont know anything about modding, so I cant make my own cute girl sponsors.

>>148457348
No clue either to be honest famalam.

>>148457401

BE really suffered rom the poor start, didnt it? As a result, nobody even took interest in RT expansion...

>>148458069
nah

it's cause nobody wants to play an Alpha Centauri style 4x anymore

>>148458587

I-I d-do, anon ;_;

>>148448748
>supply limits
>collateral damage
>forming corps and armies

>>148448748
How about you git gud?

>>148448748
>they didn't bother with combat AI so it means the entire mechanic should be scrapped

>>148460658
>being a loser who has friends

How is Desert of Kharak? Is it like Homeworld, a 4X, or is it more like a normal RTS?
I got 30 bucks on Steam and I'm looking for a recent RTS that isn't crap like Grey Goo.
Ideally, I'd like Supreme Commander in space, but with more exploration.

>>148463298
Save those 30 bux for http://store.steampowered.com/app/422900/

>>148463703
Eeeeh, I dunno. I tried Creeper World 3, I didn't really liked it.

>>148463298
Is a normal RTS but instead of base you have a carrier ship

>Poland and Brazil in the base game
>Only one of the Ottomans, persia and Mongolia
>No Songhai, South east Asian or native American (other than the auto included Aztecs) civs

Honestly what the fuck
The game looked much better than 5 but they shit the bed with the civ choices let alone the leader selection

>>148465128
Just resign yourself to the thought that we're going to have a ton of dlc packs so base game civ selection isn't the most pressing of issues.

stellaris is so shallow right now, I've no inspiration for a second run

>>148424062
>So what, she'll be a less competent Attila who attacks everyone and razes for kicks?

She wasn't ruthless in that way, I'd say expect espionage bonuses and something more to do with religion, since she was important in the French Religious Civil Wars.

bumpity

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bored as fuck so I made an attempt at an uplifted species
r8 h8 masturb8

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Got these guys next to me,
logo is two swords, with a moon.
Colour is green
Pacifist spiritualists.

I'm literally sitting next to the religion of peace.

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Rolling.

>>148474698
Fuck.

>>148472369
Seems neat. I imagine the plan is to gene-mod everything they can get their hands on?

>>148449045
It's called being anglo.

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>Just want some ship models so not everybody has the exact same ships
>Gundam and USNC are added to everybody
>EVE ones are only for their total conversion
Fucking hell

>>148477830
I'd love to have UNSC ships as humans. Always loved their look.

>>148465128
>they shit the bed
I hate that expression.

What is the best weapons against Corvettes early game? I just researched autocannons.

>>148481775
MISSILES
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>>148473403
bastards just hit my capital with a truck.

>>148472369
>century long war
>now is pacifist
wut

Don't die now

How the fuck do you play a slave empire? The sector AI goes bat shit insane enslaving and emancipating the pops I conquer.

How long till Paradox has more parameters to Empire Design to decide how it'll act in a game?

>>148485087
Few DLCs

>>148484649
Don't use sectors.

>>148474698

JUST

You know, it bothers me how Stellaris is boring if you don't use mods.
I don't mind mods, but you should be normally be able to enjoy the vanilla game as it is. Mods are just spices to specifically suit the flavour to your tastes.

It's like food, if you need to add custard to everything you eat, then there's a problem with the food.

>>148474698
This seems fun

>>148485194
So what, just keep the empire small? Or just take the hefty as fuck fee for going over the core systems limit.

New to using mods in Civ 5. What are some civs that are based on real leaders/civilizations that are worth picking up?

Just scanning though the list im not really sure out of all the ones that are listed at 5 stars are actually 5 stars and are not OP nonsense or broken.

>>148486957
slaving is overrated because sectors will fuck it up, rebellions are a definite. Use a mod to give yourself more core worlds if you can be bothered managing more worlds.

>>148486458
Tell me some good un-boring-ifying mods, anon.
Because I'm playing vanilla Stellaris and bored out of my skull. If there's a way to end this ennui I am all ears.

>>148491282
Mostly the Neptunia mods. They make for okay roleplay.

>>148491282
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=720237457

This is pretty fun for end game stuff.

>>148491282
>ennui
neat, I learned a new word.
Any of the portrait mods have help me roleplay and enjoy the game a ton more. Vanilla has a lot of issues, why not update?

>>148491282
Ennui never ends.

If I turn off the DLCs in CKII, does the AI returns to its usual dumbness or does it stay sharp?

>>148495091
Go ask gsg nigger

>>148449292
Why would my species get a happiness bonus? They aren't the uplifted ones.

has anyone ever seen the AI rebellion just disappear? This is the 2nd game I've seen them instantly vanish and the first time I've seen them vanish while looking at their main system. All their ships just disappeared and the planets become uninhabited at the same time. I don't know if this is a mod I have on fucking up or some glitch with the patch, i never saw this until asimov.

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>>148456121
It's Trajan

Guys, I'm trying to genetically engineer my colonists to favor tropical worlds, but months have gone by and the bar is just standing still -- it isn't advancing.

I've already saved and restarted, and I'm getting the same error.

Any suggestions?

>>148497210
Cant greece just be Alexander? All the time?

>>148498465
Isn't it a special project?

>>148498713
Yes, but it isn't advancing. It says that it will take 18 months, but it's not decreasing.

I've also cancelled it, and I see that my society research is ALSO standing still, while the others are operating properly.

What's the deal?

>>148498868
No clue there.

>>148499247
Okay, I've tried researching different techs, changing the scientist, and restarted the game.

Nothing's changed.

Just what the hell is going on?

Please don't tell me that I'm going to need to restart this run; I was doing so well!

>>148499874
Maybe check the situation log? Special projects are listed there.

>>148500434
I did; it was activated.

What worries me is that regular science isn't advancing in the Society tab either.

>>148498596
why would you want that? alexander is cool but there are a shitload of cool greek leaders.

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>tfw can't please everyone
;_;

>>148503140
Th-thanks Space Hitler

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>>148503140
Meh. I had worse.

>>148498868
Stop all your science ships doing anything - just have them floating in space.
Check you're not accidentally researching any other special projects at the same time.
Save / reload.
Ensure that everything is fine on the planet where you're doing the gm-ing. Some things you just can't do in contested space, for example.
Cancel the gm project and start it at again.
Put a science ship in orbit of the gm planet and tell it to assist research.

That's everything I can think of off the top of my head.

what are core mods for stellaris (besides the whites only mod, obviously)

>>148503539
fanatical purifiers hate everyone with -1000 though

>>148503697
The tyranid mod is a must.

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>>148503697
improved space battles
megastructures
COFH
no cluster starts
remove stranded foreign stations
fixed vassal opinions
also
>whites only mod

>>148504494
Without being racist, I like having separate humans species. It helps with my immersion, as it suggests there's some kind of human diaspora who happened.

>>148504843
You know you don't get bonus point for cucking and signalling

>>148504913
Nice buzzwords.

>>148504843
oh, well im just racist
>niggers getting to space
top kek

>>148504843
only intelligent species can reach space

>>148504843
>immersion
no, you're racist. thats all there is to it. considering there are astronauts of every race, it would be perfectly sensible for there to be people of all races piloting ships/being governors and whatnot. a diaspora makes literally no sense since the game starts even before you discover how to travel and colonize to different systems.

>>148506652
shut the fuck up fag. It's called roleplaying.
>le im offended by everything meme
kys

>>148506873
>Being this butt-frustrated

Chill bruh, everyone in here are Space Nazis, you don't have to hide it.

>>148506873
roleplaying as a white supremacist? okay. I mean, thats perfectly fine. but theres no reason to hide that under some thinly veiled bullshit reasoning. 'I'd like to imagine that there was a genocide that killed off everyone but whites' basically.

>>148465128
Poland makes sense though, and Native American / SEA were literally whos for the longest time.

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>>148507335
what is a bell curve
what is the genetic influence on intelligence

also
>roleplaying
as a white supremacist

dude lmao

>>148465128
Whereas I agree with first part, Mongolia, Songhai and Siamese(the only South East Asian civ IIRC) came with DLC to Civ V. Also "other than" argument doesn't really work, Aztecs is a Native American civ and they're in the game. People were bitching about no South American civs in civ fanatics too, whereas Brazil is in the game

Poland was a great country before it got fucked to hell, but I'll agree putting Brazil in before Ottomans, Persia, Mongolia or Incans(would be my choice if we were to get a second NA) doesn't make much sense

>>148497210
>Scythia is a separate civ
>Catherine for France
>KANGO of all places
Why

>>148506652
>>148507335
There's nothing more racist than the word racist.

>>148508112
Not him but it's still technically racist.
If space travel has been trivialized to the point it is in Stellaris then literally anyone can go to space. You could probably have your hamster buried on the moon if you felt like it.
Also "racism" is literally just treating race as a relevant topic, which is why both separating them and complaining about separating them are racist. Who cares?

>>148508112
this isnt the fucking middle ages, dude. people intermingle. there will still be black people 1000 years from now, just like there always have been, same with any other race. quit being so edgy, thinking that white people are the #1 and will be the only race that gets to space, ever.

>>148510229
You're also being racist, and why do you even care? It's his copy of the game.
I removed black people from the game simply because they're butt-fucking-ugly as depicted in game (actually everyone is but the black version really fucking stands out). Same reason I got rid of dreads, because I dislike that hairstyle. Is this also racist?

>>148510362
im just bringing it up because he was saying 'im not racist but I removed all black people from my game'
and yes, he is. theres at least a bit of racism in that. its perfectly fine if you have it because you think they look ugly, I think all the humans in stellaris look ugly as shit.

>>148510498
Well yeah he's being retarded too.
Honestly the concept of racism is the one thing that perpetuates it the most imo. Look at the Romans, they honestly didn't give much of a shit if you were a German or a Greek or a Numidian or a Celt or a Persian as long as you acted like a Roman.
Racism definitely exists (insofar as looking different is enough to cause prejudice, that's human nature when dividing people into 'us' and 'them' groups when shit hits the fan) but the concept of it being something you have to crack down on is what's let it blow up to the proportions it did today.

>>148510229
we have plenty of competition from the far east and india, i do not have a problem with them
also
>stating the current time period to invalidate my logic
i am truly stumped

>>148510751
Dude >>148509897. It doesn't matter if black people get to space on their own.

>>148510847
Certainly does in my empire. That means quality control has slipped up. Heads will roll for this blunder.

>>148510741
I dont think that racism is bad, its going to exist regardless. but I dont like it when people are at least a bit racist but try to validate it as something completely different when, its clearly not.
>I removed black people but im not racist, im just saying that with our superior intellect and intelligence, we will breed black people out of existence within the next thousand years/they will never be smart enough to get into space when the technology is there for everyone to use.

>>148510916
So you genocided them? Nothing wrong with that, but the idea of killing a specific color of people for being that color is inherently racist.

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hahaha all this butthurt
WE WUZ ASTRONAUTS N SHEIT

>>148511015
I'm just messing. Wasn't the anon you were replying to. I don't tend to play filthy humans anyway

>>148511008
That's my problem too
I actually think racism is fine and trying to stamp it out is both misguided and futile, but the other guy is obviously not confident in racism being fine and has to justify it.

>>148511258
I'd rather play anime girls, mainly because they actually look good.

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>>148511258

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>>148497210
>>148498596
I still hope they'll make a second leader for each faction.

I need this so I can play a game of 'conquer all the waifus'

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Bump for Prussia.

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>>148514581
Had a few Civ V games where every other leaders were women. Pretty interesting game with shitloads of backstabbing, catfight etc. Also Theodora's chattiness is really fucking high, in pretty much every turn she was talking to me

Also made me realize how lonely I was and made me want to kill myself but that's just the bonus

Just found Sol III.

If I uplift the Cockroaches, do they maintain their Tomb World preference?

>>148518456
When you uplift you can select their preference from the normal 7 planet types. Dunno if tomb world will be there as that's their current one. Check the gene modding page in F2->species

>>148518698
It's not.

>>148518698
sorry, F3

>>148518754
so they lose tomb world preference, that's gay

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>1000 fleet capacity
why you do this paradox

>>148518456
>>148519418

They shouldn't, as long as you don't select a new one.

>>148519995
extra fleet capacity dlc

I need the Cleopatra webm for reasons.

Where did the leaks come from?

So the AI wants to declare war on me and politely asks me if I wanted to join him in his upcoming fight against me.
And when I vote no he just backs away.

Is this a common bug or is my AI even more retarded than the normal Stellaris AI?

>>148521579
Nah, it apparently happens often. Another thing Paradox should fix instead of banning innocent people.

>>148523559
What's this drama about?

>>148524159
The White Only mod.

>>148523559
> he thinks games exist to be played and enjoyed
> rather than first and foremost serving as instruments of pacification and ideological indoctrination

Nonswede detected

>>148511008
yes, me wanting to roleplay Legend of Galactic Heroes is clearly racist

get a grip you nigger

>>148526146
>wanting to roleplay [something that does not force diversity and affimartive action down everyone's throat] is clearly racist
Congratulations, you now understand how they think.

Use this knowledge carefully, because if you say it they'll use it as evidence that you are a reincarnation of Hitler.

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>>148524159
Lets me tell you a story about typical Swede behaviour:
>some people start complying about humans
>because humans are a mess, names don't fit, and other shit
>nothing edgy as it paracucks forum
>mostly that you can't RP as for example glorious Nippon when you get nips with Italian names or whatever
>Paradox mods told them to stop being racist
>some guy decide to make their own mod with whites and European names
>it was easy and there was more mods with only chinks, only blacks, only women, only glorious Spaniards: you choose your own poison
>white one start being very popular
>mind that there was modified one that has swastika and only German names but it was not this one
>so European only get 1st page on steam and some salty Paradick mod ban it
>Sweden yes
>truth that it has "no multiculturalism" in description and guy also added link to his YT channel but it didn't really contain nothing edgy, some wake up Europe but not neo nazi shit as progressive side claim
>mod give no reason
>then they later give reason that it was because racist COMMENTS under the mod(as if one guy have time and opportunity to moderate this, not even mention that then if you follow their own rules you can easily ban anything for one comment)
>Kotaku and other game journalist blogs start their usual shit about racism
>buhu evil gamers are now racist and should be hanged
>mind it that Paracucks want ban also separate humans who allow you to play as glorious Nip, or peacful beardmen or whatever
>but no rules violations so no steam violations
>guy start making noise, there was some backlash even of their own forum and Paradicks go back to their progressive hug box
>mod get back on steam and stay as no rules of steam was violated
>other mods like matriarchy, only yellow, only blacks etc was not even touched
Typical swedish hypocrisy.
Swedes are bane of Nordics.

>>148528061

well at least it's back up on steam

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>>148528227
any true white man with agency could just google it and manually dl/add the mod back either way. They stopped nothing and proved once again that swedes will be the first europeans to die out.

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>>148521579
yeah its kinda common

Is Master of Magic relevant?

>>148530525
In what sense?

>>148530793
To this thread?

Is there any way to move your capital in Stellaris? Through mod or otherwise

I'd like to make this ringworld system I took over mt capital and put my previous core systems into a sector.

>>148530793
To this general, I mean. I tried talking about Crusader Kings 2 earlier, before an Anon nicely reminded me it wasn't relevant to 4xg.

>>148504494
>COFH
??

>>148531145
type it into the workshop, its a well made mod that adds new tech and buildings.

>>148531145
Conflict With a Fucking Highfive

It adds a new weapon that deals morale damage only and thus doesn't cause relation maluses. Used by pacifiers.

>>148483332
Cevis pacem parabellum or however your write that

>>148530996
Ck2 have their own general /gsg/. Its also called autism general so beware.
>>148530912
>>148530996
Yea sure. Its 4x after all.
>>148530990
There was a mod so yes if you find it.

>>148531510
Yeah, but I keep forgetting this general is about 4x and not about strategy in general.

So anyway, Master of Magic. I just tried it.
Neutral gobs invaded my town, and I was treated to a nice cutscene where they advance upon my poor defenseless wizard.

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>>148531609
Did they reap you?

>>148531895
Monk didn't deserve what happened to her
Warrior should've taken it instead.

>>148531895
Dunno. It stopped there.

Sauce by the way?

>>148532026
Goblin Slayer, it's a normal non-H manga though and only 2 chapters are out.

>>148532026
Goblinu Slayeru
>>148531997
Warrior chick did nothing wrong.

>>148448093
fucking jobber you're trash
t. /fgog/

>>148532125
t. Warrior

>>148532159
t. Melvin
He's canon able to kick the ass of any heroic spirit now suck his resplendent golden dick
Ozymandias is good too I probably just have shit taste in men

>>148532239
Ozymandias is god tier, you're allright.
Heracles is elder god tier though

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>>148532289
I want to mana transfer with Ozzy!
Can girls even give mana through sex? I thought Shirou's worked only because he shoots into his servant, wouldn't Gudako riding anyone just drain them even faster?

>>148532078
>>148532125
>start reading it
>in the very first chapter, a cute girl get raped
Yep.
No.

>>148532396
You see the aftermath in the second chapter, she's covered in gobbo cum and PTSD'd for the rest of her life and spends it all in a convent
Unless you mean Mage. Mage a shit.
>literally one (1) spell
>literally two (2) casts

>>148532468
I meant the monk. The poor girl. Mage was already dead anyway.

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>>148532289
>Ozymandias is god tier

>>148532521
Yeah poor girl
Another life ruined by gung-ho shonen protags thinking they're the main character when they're with a grumpy GM
Priestess and Monk were the only two good ones in the party

>>148532468
Its D&D. Low level mages are shit.
1 cast is normal.

>>148532583
At least I can read some fun stuff to wash away the horrible fate that fell on the monk.

>>148532612
>"I'M MEEEEEEELTING"

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>>148532550
>looking for an Ozzy picture to reply with
>literally pages upon pages of Jannu
I didn't realize I had so many saved.

>>148532612
No it isn't, 5e mages have four casts right off the bat and she didn't even have cantrips.
Before you say "AD&D" their guild registration form was literally a 5e character sheet

>>148532125
Cute smug girls are for spanking. Not rape.

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>>148532638
Read Dungeon meshi.
About adventurers who kill monsters and then cook and eat them.
Also elf bullying.
>>148532683
Too bad that Nips are still in 2nd edition.

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>>148532550

>>148532740
>Too bad that Nips are still in 2nd edition.
Yeah but the registration form was LITERALLY a 5e character sheet so I'm assuming it's based off 5e
>I graduated from muh academy
>level 1
>knows 1 spell
>can cast it twice woohoo genius
As a person whose best run was as a level 40+ divine wraith archmage she triggers me

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>>148532740
Already read it. It was adorable. Through the Mimics are pretty horrifying.
Poor Chilchack.

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>>148532894
Ty this. stravaganza.
Did you read Overlord? Its decent.
>>148532819
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

>>148533019
>Overlord
Not him but Overlord is about shitstomping and hilarious character interactions, not combat.

>>148533064
It has some comfy adventurers time arc but sadly its end fast. Still its decent fantasy.

>>148533019
Tried it, but it stopped at chapter 2. And the goblin slayer thingy only has one chapter.
I guess the website I use (kissmanga) is extremely late when it comes to releases.

>>148533064
Just like One Punch Man or that Maou manga. Except the Maou one was really shitty, with the editor constantly making boobs jokes in the margin like some kind of DSP.

>>148533109
Are you talking about the Momon arcs
How is Volume 10 and where did Nigel put it

>>148533123
Are you talking about Maoyuu Maou Yuusha, because that one isn't about shitstomping or character interactions.

>>148533123
Goblin Slayer has two chapters out already it got dumped like a week ago on /a/
Read the LN for Overlord, the manga is good for reaction faces and that's about it

>>148533161
No, it's another one. Some NEET plays as Diablo, the ultimate player on some server, than he get summoned as his own character in another world and steamroll over everything.
The manga had some cute girl but the editing was just awful and the story was stale pretty quickly.

Also, there's Kumo Desu Ga which is pretty fun so far, it uses some Elder Scroll-like experience system where the more the character use a skill, the better it become.

Also the main character is some kind of reincarnated spider. That's the only thing I saw that manages to make a spider cute.

>>148533361
Go read the damn WN for Kumo desu ga, the manga is never going to catch up and the plot twist is in the title
If you want another WN reccomendation there's Jashin Average (Evil God Average) and The Girl Who Ate Death.

>>148533161
He is talking about the one with a skeleton main character, not the tittymonster one

>>148533435
But where can I read LNs? The only source I know is Baka Tsuki, and the translation there is kind of weird, and sometimes totally confusing.

Through not as bad as that one blog I tried to read once, who alternated between first and third person perspective.

>>148533465
No, the skeleton is from Overlord.

>>148533465
The titty monster one is good though until FUCKING MUSKETS

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Dear /4xg/.

I kinda liked playing Rising Tide that I bought last sale and I wanted to kinda improve it a bit with mods, since I dont like how affinities work at all - mainly, how I end with maxed everything anyway, because useful techs have different affinities experience points.

Sadly, no RT compatible mods that add female sponsors that dont suck (except for one or two that require checking files every time you run the game, because of some bug).

There are two approaches I can pick - either "Awesome Affinities" ( steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=501482168 ) that shifts affinities experience points to outer techs, slow down their growth and add another level of bonuses to make each affinity changing playstyle or "Affinity As Yields" ( steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=414284979 ) that removes exp from techs at all, instead making experience gained only from events and, more importantly, from buildings and improvements you use (mainly, farms and typical "earth-like" improvements giving Purity, generators giving Supremacy and such).

Which one would lead to better outcome, guys?

Personally, I dont understand at all, why devs made tech useful for everyone and general-like tied with affinities and why they mixed techs from different affinities next to each other, so players, who want to focus on one, have to jump across the tech tree like crazy.

Not to mention that Endless Space before it clearly showed that while placing starting point for tech tree at the middle, turning it into tech web, makes early tech selection more important and leads to better planning, everyone ends researching everything in the end game anyway, with differences being most important at early and mid game.

At least they could split the existing tech web in three areas, each tied to certain affinity, with ring of general, common ones around the starting point. This could fix a lot of problems.

>>148533518
>it's someone who's never read LNs or WNs

skythewoodtl
For KonoSuba

SkytheWood blogspot.
Overlord, GATE and a few others, ignore the disclaimer one of the translators is doing it independently

raisingthedead dot ninja
The later chapters of Kumo Desu Ga are on this

Blastron01's tumblr
Kumo Desu Ga up to 102 right now, he's re-translating off of

turb0translation's blogspot which is written in broken english up to 220.

distractedtranslations dot wordpress dot com
The Girl Who Ate Death.

oniichanyamete dot wordpress dot com
Jashin Average

Just a note, if you try to ask for this stuff on /a/ they'll shout you down. Google it next time, most of these can be easily found just by googling "[Title] Light Novel Translation English" or some variant.

>>148534102
Last time I tried googling stuff like that, I got some weird blog with an absolutely abysmal translation.
Thanks for the bookmarks.

>>148534272
That'd be Turbo's, the translation is actually good but it's written like shit because he's a SEA or something

>>148534303
SEA?

>>148534052
Urgh Endless Space. An interesting game, but the AI cheats so much it totally ruins it.

>>148534425
Southeast Asian
Are you new lad

>>148534471
Where I come from, we just say ESL.

>>148534052
I would bet you money if I had any that Civ VI will get a space based mod and it'll be better than BE

Assuming Civ VI is very moddable unlike Civ V, have they said anything about that?

>>148534102
>Jashin Average
>The Girl Who Ate Death.
And these are?
Also dungeons thingies?

>>148535846
The first one is pretty much a girl playing DM and not knowing what the fuck is going on
The second is just a historical fantasy written from the viewpoint of a starving peasant turned general

>>148535908
Sounds fun. I'll add them to my bookmarks.

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>>148474698
Rolling with an old meme pic

I want an odd combination like Huns/science, come on don't give me the classics

>>148536361
Sucks to be you

>small two planet empire
>has no alliance or anything
>literally wiped out everything I can of theirs, mining stations, ships, fleets, outposts
>2 20k fleets of mine bombing their two planets
>only 53% warscore
wtf

>>148535517

For fuck sake, your hate toward this game blinds you. Everybody was telling me before I bought it that Im going to pay for "shitty Civ V mod" and in the end, it turned much better than that. Not SMAC 2, but solid game. Maybe thats because I played RT right away, without playing base game and thus cant say anything about what they added.

The way affinity system works and how it is mostly fluff is my main argument against this game, however, thats why I asked for opinion about possible solution.

>>148535517
>have they said anything about that?
It'll be "easier" but no specifics.

>>148534052

Please respond ;_;

I just wonder what is the core problem with how affinities work - is that they are developed by researching techs, spread around the web or that idea is fine and the problem lies in how general techs that everyone need, gives affinity points, instead of only techs specific to certain affinities.

>>148543045
If nobody answers, it usually means nobody knows.

>>148474698
ssssnchun

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>>148532740
>Also elf bullying.
You don't say.

>>148544309
Elf bullying is best bullying.

I'm going to download the eldar mod for Stellaris and proceed to shit on them.
Or can I make them a Fallen Empire?

>>148543351

This sucks.

>>148544917
I know. I asked a question about Supreme Commander 22 threads ago, and still haven't gotten any answers.

I suspect this may be the wrong general, but still...

>>148474698
Rolling to kill time pre-VI

>>148529372

Humiliate yourself little bitch.

>>148534303
Nobody told you you always translate from a foreign language to your native language, and never in the other way?

>>148546508
I don't think he's native to either English or Japanese.
Also, for all his faults, he pumped out 220 chapters in months, we got 3+ a day sometimes. He's easily one of the fastest translators I've seen, even if he's obviously using a lot of MTL.

How is Star Ruler 2 as a 4x game ?
It isn't mentioned in this thread or the OP.

>>148546803
Personally, I don't like it.
The gameplay is interesting and innovative without being as frustrating as the first game, but I dunno, I just don't like it.
It's slow, a bit frustrating, you spend more time looking for ressources than fighting, and there are still some stuff I can't understand. Like the pressure thing.

And the fights are a bit annoying as the AI will spam a shitload of fleets while you're resupplying.

>>148546949

>>148489434
Frederick the Great is a fun one for warmongering.

>>148545206

Its 4x general after all, you asked about RTS game that is not 4x.

>>148546949

Its unique - TOO unique, in my opinion. Almost everything works different than in your typical 4x - financial cycles, pressure system, resources, planet levels, diplomacy...

Nobody wants to learn genre again.

>>148550460
/rtsg/ doesn't exist anymore does it
Not him just asking

>>148550460
I dunno, 4x is pretty vague as a definition. Theorically, it can apply to any kind of strategy game.

Also, yeah, Star Ruler 2 is too unique. I still have trouble figuring the strategy, if I should develop my main planet or develop several planets, if I should bother with that "pressure" thing or not.

And the research is kinda lame to be honest.

>>148550796
It doesn't. Sadly. It died right after Grey Goo was released. I tried reviving it, but I failed.

>>148550918
I personally tried three times. It didn't work, died before a new thread was made.
Sadness consumes me

>>148550796
Didn't rtsg die like years ago?

>>148551080
We kept trying to make it live again
LOL killed the RTS genre.

>>148551080
No, its death was recent.

Shit, it was on /rtsg/ that I learned about SupCom's proximity system. It was so fucking neat.

>>148551069
We're all dead, Anon. This is hell.

>>148551202
And Starcraft 2 too. All RTS are compared to it.

Meanwhile I'm still here, playing SupCom FA and enjoying it.
Fuck forever though.

>>148474698

>>148533019
man

animu eyes like that always get me

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Screwing around with my mods folder, I came across JFD's 10x mod again. I suggest this mod to everyone for at least once, it's somehow funny, made me laugh a few times
Link if you're too lazy to google
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=363117420

>>148553734
>Kamehameha
What

>>148554573
One of the guys who ruled Hawaii before a handful of buissness men backed with mercs annexed it in the name of the US and started a political shitstorm.

>>148554916
Did his name inspired Dragonball or is it a coincidence?

>>148555021
No idea honestly. All i know is they ruled Hawaii and managed to stay afloat without being annexed by a colonial power.

Then they lost to a literal corporate takeover.

>>148555180
That's really sad. Surviving colonialist assholes to get rekt by corporations.

>>148555021
Civ wiki says "Akira Toriyama, the creator of the popular manga Dragonball, named Goku's attack in Kamehameha's honor, after a visit to Hawai'i."

Also Kamehameha is pretty interesting in Civ V. He rules Polynesia, he's not black even though he was in real life IIRC, I think he's speaking modern Hawaiian but I'm not sure, his voice actor isn't even credited,...

>>148555456
Sounds as interesting as Chaka "I fight machinegun with spears and win" Zoulou.

What's the current meta for the best race build? Playing multiplayer with my friends and I want to CRUSH them

>>148555536
He didn't though, when he did win it was due to fucking supply lines and abuse of terrain.

>>148555319

As i said it caused a serious conflict of interest for the US. Some wanted to accept the request to join the US from the coup's leaders because
the US was expanding it's influence into the pacific at the time so Hawaii would be great for that. Others saw accepting as setting a
dangerous precedent since other US buissness men may try similar stunts and drag the US into a war while others objected based on the
fact this was about an undemocratic as you could get a bunch of forigners suppressing the local population and forcing them to join
another nation regardless of the local peoples will.

As for the colonial powers they survived by not getting involved too much and a lack of interest in an islolated island by those powers at first
then as people started moving accross the pacific more they started looking for a backer which if you look at Hawaii's flag you can
probably guess who they chose. That was another issue for the US the idea that if they
agree'd the UK may have seen it as an act of aggression.

>>148556376
That still count as a win.

>>148556597
I guess it does, but then again anyone can fight a guy with a gun and win if they're at point blank range and have a shortsword but it sounds misleading to say "anyone can beat a man with a gun if you give him a shortsword".

>>148556743
I dunno, I think it's more impressive that way. I mean, Zoulou really adapted to weapons he never used. Has been born in another country, he woulda been a military genius. Maybe even a Napoleon.

>>148556930
He technically was a military genius, it just didn't fucking matter because double pincer / anvil + shock infantry hammer was a big deal in Roman times, not 2000 years after the fact.

>>148556930
>Maybe even a Napoleon.
"no". You really underestimate Napoleon

>>148557057
>angry colonist detected
Chaka Zoulou fucked your shit up, senpai.

>>148557179
I'm not an 'angry colonist', I'm just stating the facts. What he did wasn't a bid deal, it was literally using shock infantry as the hammer. In fact I'd argue his tactics are strictly inferior to Hannibal due to never incorporating the skirmish phase or the inward crescent retreat.

>>148557301
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of natives slaughtering your troops, senpai.

>>148557528
Damn you, Zulu savages! I would have gotten away with this had I not screwed my crates shut!

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>>148557528
?

Is it just me, or SMAC is pretty much horror game?

I mean, I was really downed by reading the fluff behind techs, wonders and such. Whole game was scary.

>>148557830
Wow. I really need to get it.

>>148557830
If you are 12, yes.

>>148558042
I was 10 when it came out.

>>148558042

Im 26 and it still felt distrubing. Recycling bodies, mind worms, transhumanism, pushing boundaries of science, self-aware colony, every leader being a jerk on his/her own, general distopnian atmosphere.

Trandescence victory was blizzarre and alien, but at least was most positive. Also, much harder than Beyond Earth transdescence - in SMAC whole planet was REALLY going mad.

>>148558586
Always my issue with BE it felt like a washed out SMAC that feared standing out in any way when it came to the alien worlds themselves. The only thing worse was the bland sjw multi ethnic everything factions.

>>148558586
Science can be terrifying if for no other reason than scale and depth, the same reason why it's considered elegant.

>>148558586
>mind worms
You mean like in Blood 2 and System Shock?

>>148558930

I guess I recall one of the devs stating that he felt sad for BE because of limitations of existign engine, so they couldnt implement, among other things, true terraforming.

>>148559360
>Blood 2
Are we talking about that FPS game where there were some kind of worms that jumped on your face and make you not see any fucking thing on the screen? It used to fucking piss me off. I played that game years ago but I still remember those fuckers

>>148559658
Jesus, shut the fuck up. Between these and the spiders, I had nightmares playing that game.

And the game never tells you how to remove them.

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This is a fucking problem

>>148561714
A fracture in space?

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>>148561886
basically

>>148561997
I'm not sure what it is, but you'd better save and build warships.
Because t͍̝̰͕̦͓he̳̦̕y̹̥ a̴̺̳̯̯̰̟̭͟͠r̴̪̹̝̰̳͜e͇̮̯͙̖͚̺̻ͅ c̻̟̗̜̓ͬ̍̽͑̏o̥̭̲̲̫ͮ̈́ͅm̷͍͎̎͋͠ḯ̹̲̻̭ͩ͐͌ͬ̿͒̚n͙͖̦͗ͫgͫͪ̉ͫ͊̍̈́͂͏͍͕̜̺̼̮̣̗.͌ͧ̎ͬ́̒̏̓͘͏̶̮͔͉͈̖

>>148559360

I mean mind worms that plant their eggs into your BRAIN. While transmitting most horrible nightmares right into your mind in order to paralyze you.

The major plot twist is about what those worms realyl are and how they are connected with planet and xenofungus covering it - when you learn that, it gets even more disturbing.

SMAC was really well wrote game.

>>148562407
Where is my flamethrower

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>>148562407
>Not wearing completely sealed environment suits on alien worlds
>Not burning all multicellular organisms off the surface before establishing a colony

Got what they deserve.

>>148564060
The problem is that the planet is essentially the same thing has the mind worms and it would react to you based on your actions. Using planet busters left, right and centre while having a super polluting industry would cause the planet to go into rape mode on your ass.

>>148564557

Hush, that was supposed to be the major plot twist every player had to discover himself!

But since you spoilered it to him anyway: >>148564060 is stupid - Unity was barely working the moment they reached Alpha Centauri, also suffering from mutiny afer captain assasination - thats why crew separated into different factions.

Even if they had proper weaponry to glass the surface (why doing this, if you plan to live here and your home planet assraped itself to death, dummy?), it was pointless - whole planet was one big organism, experiment from alien race - xenofungus working as its nerve system, mind worms working as antibodies - destroying it was only making Planet even more pissed off. No, Morgan, you cant make it enjoy this anal session with boreholes, it can easily wipe out humanity forever and you and nobody else have yet tech and resources to make another colony ship.

>Not wearing completely sealed environment suits on alien worlds

Thats why the mentioned nightmare vision came in first place. You think that victims willingly let those worms burrow into their brains?

>>148534425
>An interesting game
the game is as sterile as spreadsheets

>>148565824

I liked it, one of more pleasant 4x games I played.

>>148567721
In what video game?

>>148567773
>only on-topic posts are allowed on fucking /vg/ of all places
WEW

>>148567865
Fuck off back to your containment board.

>>148567865

Yes, exactly.

Now get it into right board.

>>148565321
That reminds me of that horrible manga. Remina.

Jesus, the nightmares I had.

>>148567721
>>148567865
>tfw you'll never have coups against you in stellaris
desu, you should ALWAYS have fringes in any kind of government

>>148568369

From Junji Ito?

EVERY of his work is high octane nightmare fuel.

>>148568756
Some of his stuff are just spooky. Remina is just completely horrifying.

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>>148532740
>>148544552
This Dungeon Meshi is pretty good. Lots of wholesome elf abuse.

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>>148569771
I know, right? I like how it manages to stay cute and fun despite dealing with pretty grim stuff.
Like Laius' sister being fucking devoured alive.

Speaking of government, the limited control you have of policies in totalitarian non-collectivist governments is fucking sad
If I'm a regime that has no real government, why wouldn't I be able to just enslave people, and why are there no government-specific actions I can take against said slaves?
It feels like just another resource sink with no real use, it's the FNAF equivalent of the music box.

Why can't I just purge pops if I'm not a xenophobe or a collectivist?
Why can't I adjust my ethos mid game, too? Especially in republics, there's no reason for the elected parties to actually keep the ethos that's been going on in the last 10 years, or if a long oligarchy has been going on with different ethos, I do not see why I wouldn't be able to steer it strong enough to convert if not the entire fucking empire, at least a single planet under my direct control?

I want more RP control for real

>>148569957
they found the sister dead?
fuck

>>148571102
I don't know yet.
She still spent two days in the dragon's stomach, she may be heavily wounded.

>>148571417
Last chapter has Darius saying a skull is his sister and they found her staff
i assume they will continue down to revive her or something since they stabilized how resurection works and all that

Any good mod recommendation for civ 5?

Would rather not have any graphic mods.

Bonus points for navy enhancements

>>148571891
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=363117420

>>148571891
Community Patch adds more units.
RED modpack makes a single unit have more members to it so you don't have a single scout dude roaming the world.
Ethnic Units makes units more diversified, like Ethiopian and Zulu troops actually looking black or Roman knights actually looking like bombass legionaries in full plate.

In stellaris i've researched up to Droids, Sentient AI, and Galactic Admin, but its not allowing me to reseach Synthetics. Even checking techweights eng. doesnt even show it on the list

am i missing a prerequisite tech?

>>148573260
You need to be materialist. Its materialist only tech.

Can I change my ethic in game?
I picked them for flavour mostly, and I clearly underestimated their importance.

>>148573497
OH right. You know i just started this new game because in my old one i had pops i wanted to purge, but realized i couldnt because i wasnt collectivist, and i remembered Oh right thats why i always play collectivist. And the game before that i tried to Full bombard a planet and couldnt because i wasnt militarist.

Is there any point at all in being anything other than militarist, collectivist, materialist? and is there a way to change that without completely starting over?

>>148574179
every time i play i think, Oh ill try a peaceful empire this time, and then these god damn xeno's piss me off and since i chose my government ethics at the start and you cant change them after i cant glass their asses, or purge them, or build synthetic robots to piss them off and out produce them. so i deal with these spacejews for like 2 hours and then i remember why i only play a specific, "burn the universe" playstyle

>>148574179
Just bullshitting you. I stop playing after 1.1 and back then you can get it even if you play spiritualist.
Probably just bad luck.
Take scientist with the same field as synthetics and he should roll it.

>>148574519
To bad that you cant change a government ethics.

Or that event on global map actually affect your population ethics(and factions).

Its like stellaris were never made as finished product.

>>148574919
You can't? What a pain in the ass.

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>>148574919
>Its like stellaris were never made as finished product.

>>148574698
tried that. The scientist has all 3 of the modifiers to research the tech and it still doesnt even fucking show it on the weights listing.

I would just fucking console command it in if i could but apparently thats not fucking possible either. you either go 1-3 researches at a time or the Whole god damn tree at once, there's no selective tech researching code.

>>148576625
Paradox should really work on their image, because it's really lame.

>>148576625
>stellaris comes out
>looks pretty alright
>talk to friends, they say its great, everyone reviews it well
>buys it and it feels so half baked
>dlc out after a couple patches
time to wait for a gold edition I guess...

>>148576898
They don't care. Their games sell because:
>turboautists from /his/ and /gsg/ buy it
>map painters buy it
>their retarded fanboys buy it
also
>THERE IS NO SIMILAR PRODUCTS
What these swedcucks care is progressives in their own hug box
Paradicks are really clear example why monopoly is bad

>>148577372
True. Sadly.

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>>148577867
You misswrote Broken Lords.

>tfw far prefer Civ IV to Civ V
Why does it seem like this isn't a thing here on /vg/

>>148579483
because people sperg out over stacks even though they're not that bad and make sense.

>>148579780
They make no more sense than 1upt. 1upt is just superior strategically.

>>148580041
No, it's superior tactically and it makes no sense of scale or strategy.

In Civ4 you have an army, within that army there are the different units and you send them out to go and fight and leave it at that because you have an economy and stuff to attend to as well, in Civ5 you're micromanaging every little bowman for no good reason.

>>148579483
I was late in getting to the Civ games and can't handle how cheap and clunky the IV interface handles. Seems very nice for actual content though.

>>148580431
>cheap and clunky
Now this is true about Civ IV, even if it's still annoying during war, Civ V is much better to handle interface wise later in the game when you have a large army. Everything is much cleaner too.

>>148580346
>fun is not a reason

Civ4 fans want sim city
Civ 5 fans want an actual strategy game

>>148580346
>with civ 4 you just mash everyone together on one tile
>on civ 5 you have to actually move your units tactically, infantry in the front dying means that your archers/siege will get exposed
now, im not gonna deny that civ 5 itself was flawed, but 1upt isnt flawed. civ 6 fixes the problems with 5 using armies, and group movement.

Honestly I fucking hate the Civ V interface. It feels so fucking overdesigned. I'm the kind of guy who uses GNU/Linux. Civ V gives me a hernia.

>>148567721
>coup in Turkey
Sounds like it might be constitutional. Humanity are complicated.

>>148580975
>'m the kind of guy who uses GNU/Linux.
aka fag

The more I read and see about VI the more hyped I get.

This better not be another Rome 2.

>>148580534
>>148580750
Civ5 isn't on a tactical scale though, the 1upt is a total fuck up in terms of scale. Besides, it's not fun to have to move every single unit in your bigass carpet so they can crowd around a city and wait to be picked off.

Also, there's a little bit more than mashing going on in Civ4, different units have different strengths and weaknesses. For example, axe men are good against melee units while spearmen fuck up mounted units, while Soldiers are good at city attack. You'll want them all in a stack but at what ratio? You need a lot more units in Civ4 (and the game is scaled to that) so you can also defend your cities.

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>>148580534
>Civ 5 fans want an actual strategy game
Civ5 is nothing like an actual strategy game, specially with the whole fucked up scale making chokepoints a very common occurence

>>148582210
>"civ 5 is nothing like a strategy game!"
>"I mean, true, movement is important because of chokepoints"
>"but it's not strategy at all!!"

>>148581990
No civ game is to scale, no element of civ is to scale. It does not take a village 100 years to construct a granary.

>>148582286
>"i have to move every unit in civ5 unlike civ4"
>"this means is more tactical!"

>>148582290
I'll give you that! But why make it even more out of scale in a way that seems to go against the streamlining aspirations of Civ5? Civ5 is out of scale on an even more fundamental gameplay level that Civ4

>>148577372
>>THERE IS NO SIMILAR PRODUCTS
distant worlds
master of orion
galciv
distant worlds
sword of the stars
star ruler
stardrive
distant worlds

>>148582613
In all of these, the diplomacy is secondary, the war comes first.
Paradox's games put the emphasis on the diplomacy, with combat being only a way to win.

>>148582613
>distant worlds
>similar
DW is actually good

>>148582594
Because doomstacks were literally a shit. The way theyre fixing things in 6 is far better than 1upt, but 1upt was still better than doomstacks.

>>148582395
Yes, that exactly. Doomstacks were not good. It put war soundly in the hands of economy and very little had to do with tactics.

>>148582749
You can play as a space pirate in DW.

A SPACE PIRATE

>>148582395
This is true.

>>148582836
I seriously doubt you've even played with stacks, they weren't that bad.

>>148582984
Do you have any real argument? Because "if you don't agree with me, then you never played with stacks" is a bit shitty.

>>148582712
>diplomacy in paradox games
>emphasis
no

>>148582984
I played 4 for hundreds of hours, but near the end stacks killed my desire to play.

When civ5 came out it was basic as shit but the wars were a blast because of 1upt.

>>148583097
I seriously doubt you've even played any Paradox, they weren't that bad.

Stacks would have been fine if they had a) kept a simultaneous unit damage system and/or b) implemented the facing-centric combat system of Civ 5 to simulate flanking and encirclement.

>>148582930
>>148582984
Because the majority of Civilization is spent building an economy and managing your tiles to be able to have some sort of edge over your opponents. Civ 4 had you making decisions between devoting your limited amount of soldiers you could support between units you had to garrison (you HAD to garrison or else enemies could just walk in and take it) and units to put into your stacks, and then you had to decide which units would be optimal for going and fighting your enemies or at least taking their cities.

Civ5 not only takes out a lot of the limitations on this by not requiring garrisons, but it also actively discourages against garrisons with 1upt because you want to keep your city open to purchase units for an emergency.

>>148583084
>doomstacks are bad because they are bad

>>148583313
I agree with this. I also think a tile supply system could have been interesting, maybe even implementing supply lines that are forwarded through forts (making them more useful than before)

>>148583313
Alternatively have a command cap system so each stack could only be x units large.

>>148583537
>let's encourage field defense over garrisons
Sounds fine to me

It also makes city capture a more fluid mechanic.

Doomstacks are bad because they largely remove the importance of strategic chokepoints.

>>148583897
>strategic chokepoints.
I through your Civ5 defenders were all about flanking and surrounding the enemy?

>>148583537
No, doomstacks are bad because they encourage spamming units.
One Unit Per Tile actually makes archers interestings as they can outdamage the enemy melee units and win the war of attrition.

>maybe even implementing supply lines that are forwarded through forts
That sounds good too. That would remove the threat of having enemy units near your capital while you're sieging their town.

And that would finally make forts relevants.

>>148583897
>let's encourage field defense over garrisons
But it ruins a sense of urgency and commitment, it takes away an actual challenge a player has to face where certain things need part of your limited resources so maybe you can't hope to conquer all of the cities you want to since you need to devote your armies to defending what you have, or take the risk and pull them out.

Also, doomstacks didn't remove the importance because the importance wasn't really there to begin with. Chokepoints don't make a lot of sense in war on a grand scale, supply does.

>>148584380
>they encourage spamming units
If you really wanted to spam units in Civ4 you either needed A LOT of high production cities pumping units out all the time (at the cost of not having barracks and other things that would make the units worth more, as well as other buildings)

Or you needed the slavery civic which would sacrifice some of your population at a certain point in a units production to build it. (Slavery also runs the risk of revolts and having a lower population is generally bad)

Or you needed the one that let you buy units,and even then there was a limit.

Sometimes it wasn't really possible to "spam" the units because you had to devote to your garrisons (which with certain civics would help your cities retain happiness)

>>148584380
>One Unit Per Tile actually makes archers interestings
>Gattling guns drop the whole range thing
THANKS FIRAXIS

>>148584885
>Gattling guns drop the whole range thing
What?

>>148585036
>>148584885
That's fine actually. Range should only be a mechanic for ballistic weapons unless you also make terrain an influencing mechanic, where nonballistic weapons get a range increase on hills against flat land.

>>148585036
They can only attack 1 tittle away vs the 2 tittles of bow units

>>148585203
Makes sense I guess. I mean, you can't shoot over your own lines with firearms like you can with bows.
Unless you have them on a hill.

>>148584213
The maps are sp cramped everywhere is a chokepoint.

I'm literally drolling over the things added by this mod

http://stellaris.smods.ru/archives/2031

as someone that just discovered strike craft this is awesome , is there a way to download for a filthy pirate?