/4xg/ - Stellaris, Civilization & Dead Communities General

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>>148739945
First for SMAC

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Second for AIs not being that dumb.

>>148739683
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqiOQ1dAhL4
enjoy.
(this was kinda a bad video because it was all techs so the ai just brought out their insane monk micro instead of anything else. normally they build other units. but its still a glimpse at the ai economy, one that never cheats.)
hopefully 'dead communities' means I could post about this here and not get banned, theres no rts general or anything...

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>>148740308
Just post about it, we welcome all good games.

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>>148740181
I love cheesing the dumb AI though
>mfw using spaghetti technique and making all civs go bankrunpt

>>148740308
At least it doesn't cheat. I have bad memories of playing Empire Earth.

>>148740560
>At least it doesn't cheat.
>at least
What else do you want from it
Also why the fuck can't all AIs be this good?

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>still no empire borders for mac

>>148740601
Just be fair. I have bad, REALLY bad memories of Empire Earth's AI.
>literally two peasants
>yet able to cover the map with buildings
>constantly rebuilding them
>rebuild them faster than I can destroy them
>spams atomic bomber

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>Distant Worlds
>forgot to check "regenerating ressources"

>>148740308
>that monk micro
Lord have mercy

>>148740308
>on hardest, receives bonus ressources

>>148743101
>but it doesn't in the HD edition
Watch for more than 20 seconds

>>148743101
the old ai does, not this one.

>>148743251
>>148743274
Ha, I turned the sound off. That's why I missed the explanation.

First for Civ VI being the saviour of 4X

>>148745226
>First
Anon...

>>148745226
>First for Civ VI being the saviour of 4X
>first for
>post #17
>IP #7
>mentioned game #4
>first

Is there a small 4X that doesn't take an entire week to be understood?

>>148747654
No, there's no video game cure for having a sub-70 IQ,

>>148747827
Poor you.

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>>148741718
>playing vs hardest AI
>even with cheats for unlimited resources and no build times, literally can't micro my pop-cap cloud of flying attack robots hard enough to lock down all their constantly building peasants, airfields, towers and anti-air guns

>>148748162
Made me kek

>>148747654
You can just jump into any of them on low difficulties, but for normal or higher and for a complete game you'll need time mate

If you have any Civ V questions I can answer you I guess

>>148748479
No, it's a problem of attention. I can't spend more than 2 hours on a game before getting bored, but all 4X are designed to last for weeks.

And even if I try to play on a small map, I end up missing a lot of the endgame stuff.

>>148748370
That game's AI was just broken.

>>148748162
I'm not the one who takes a week to understand a simple strategy game.

>>148748725
Try it with some music? When I get bored of a game but want to see its end anyway, I listen to some good metal and alt tab while its the other civs turn

>>148749474
Tried that once. Almost killed myself.

I used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4

>>148748479
In Civ 5, what are some AIs that I can trust to have my back, so long as I respect their borders? I just had two games in a row where my neighbour declared war on me out of the blue when my army was oversees helping another ally.

>>148752186
http://civdata.com/
Sort them by their loyalty to see trustable allies
And then deceptive to see who are more likely to backstab
Check out other stats too just in any case I guess

Are there any mods for stellaris yet that unfuck AI friendliness?

particularly things to change shit like border friction, "threat" awareness and other crap?

>>148742051
How the hell do resources work in Distant Worlds?
Regenerating resources? What does the percentage value assigned to resource type mean? What does trading luxuries do?

>>148754629
Similar to Stellaris, Planets have different amounts of resources that you have to build mining stations above to acquire.

>>148754629
>What does the percentage value assigned to resource type mean?
The amount of ressource.
>What does trading luxuries do?
FREEEE MONEEEEEEEY
>Regenerating resources?
It doesn't run out forever.

Amarr Empire here,

My fucking neighbor I just broke vassalization with just went full fucking retard and elected a god damn robutt for their fucking leader.

I'm gonna purge the shit out of these fuckers because the Sentient AI shit is all active and I bet these shitheads enabled it.

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>>148755026
fuck forgot my picture

>>148755310
>"our military could crush your nation"
>power check : pathetic
Please don't fix that, Paradox. I like retards.

>>148749474
The annoying part is that I can play Total War games just fine, but with 4X, I always feel alone.

when's this fucking paradix holiday going to end aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

>>148755775
It's just a video game, it can't fix personal problems.

>>148757812
>end
:^)

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Rate my nation

I'd like to thank /pol/ for the concept :^)

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>>148755310
>micromanaging 14 planets

kill me

How do any of you get robo-empires going? Short of purging or resettling my own people, it seems like by the time I have the economy to spam robots on my core planets, they're already full.

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>there actually is a special message if the first xenos you encounter is a Fallen Empire
Neat. Too bad you'll probably never see this without mods. I only got it because I used a mod to start on a tomb world so the holy guardians next door contacted me almost immediatly to call me a heretical faggot.

>>148764441
>playing animu

>>148765407
Anime powerlevels are far beyond anything Stellaris can ever hope to shit out.

>>148763163
they're already maxed out I don't really care and its not difficult to just upgrade infrastructure

I'm new to this genre. I picked up Stellaris and I didn't know what to expect, however I went with slavery focused empire. I think I've made a mistake because it feels boring as hell.
I'm not even that far into the game and all I keep doing is winning wars and enslaving everyone. I can't even negotiate with anyone because everyone hates me.
I'm thinking of going a pacifist route with my next empire.

>>148768853
>I think I've made a mistake because it feels boring as hell.
no, don't be sorry, having slavery or purge ability is fucking great.

Putting up with unhappy pops and planets that will never fucking like you (ie militarist vs pacifists) is a fucking bane on my empire. I have so many pops that absolutely hate me and I blow a lot on influence just to stop them from rebelling. Slavery is the best way to say "fuck you I don't care about your happiness, get to work" and you get your MAX resources acquired. Otherwise these people are unhappy and they aren't making you as much as you could be.

I made a huge mistake being a materialist instead of a collectivist.

>>148768853
>I think I've made a mistake because it feels boring as hell.
That's just Stellaris in general.

Is there an easy way to check which systems I surveyed? Going through them manually is a pain

>>148754629
The percentage is just the rate at which the resources are extracted by mining equipment. So if a planet has 100% of steel, your mining station will generate it at 100% of it's output potential.

Luxuries give your pops bonuses. Different species require different luxuries for their different bonuses. Some are better than others. The super luxuries give super bonuses.

>>148770984
if they are surveyed, the name on the galactic map is white

if they are not fully surveyed, the name is greyed out

So basically, I should wait for several patches before I play Stellaris?

>>148772830
>So basically, I should wait for several patches before I play Stellaris?
More like several DLCs.

>>148773696
Well, shit, that's years away. That means no Paradox games for me till then, I've played all the other ones to death and HOI 4 is dogshit.

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>>148773696
>several DLCs.
>years away
months, not years

I don't trust AI to manage my sectors properly. Why is this shit forced?!

>>148778585
>Why is this shit forced?!
Good question, I guess they underestimated our autism and our capacity for autistic micromanagement.

>>148778585
the workaround is to clear all the tiles and build everything in advance, sector the planet, and lock all the construction options.

>>148779249
or you know just change defines.lua to have your base planet cap at 999

>>148781164
>cheating

is the best strat for primitives as a slaver empire is uplift -> enslave? that way they still get +20% happiness when enslaved?

>>148782909
Also gene mod them to be very strong so your slave mines and armies are more effective.

>>148745226
Wait until Civ 7 or 8.

The 10/10 godtier 4X game will come one day, but not in the current epoch of video gaming. Just hope Civ VI inches in quality over V, which to be fair it does look like it'll do from what has been revealed.

>>148773937
>and HOI 4 is dogs hit

I believe you, but how badly did the botch it in specific?

What was that weird-ass strategy game with 1000 races that looks like shit but is really deep? Can't remember the name

>>148786176
Distant Worlds?

>>148786328

No, it was a fantasy based one. Tons of magic and stuff to research, demi-gods, and a cthulhu race.

Played Distant Worlds last week actually

>>148786461

Not research but activated with gems you create I meant

>>148786461
Ha.

Dominions 4.

>>148786765

There we go, thanks. Wonder if the devs will make a new one

Anyone else write history based on how their civ game played out?

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>>148786859
It has its own general, so if you try to talk about it here, you'll be called names.

>>148786985
I do, but only with other people's games. Stories based on my own games usually end badly because of how shit I am.

>>148786859
Dominions 4 is the new one.

>>148787381
spank
blanc

>>148791481
i cant believe spankanon was referenced in the games

>>148791481
Yeah well last time I tried Civ5, Neptune was captured alive by the Handsome Jack.

>>148791849
I can't believe either. I should put that on my CV.

Is there any promising Stellaris overhaul mod?

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>>148740695
>mac

>>148757812
when the money stops rolling in

Hi guys,

So, Stellaris bored me and I wanted to start a Distant Worlds game. But I've played a BUNCH of vanilla already. Any recommended mods for it?

>>148797558
is that shit still 60 dolaridoos?

>>148787381
what the fuck is a "blanc"?

>>148797558

Kek. I've played DW since 2010. I paid full price for every update except maybe Universe which I got for free I think? Worth it, IMO, but money is not really a concern to me so YMMV.

Picked up Endless legend during the steam sale, and I have to say it is bretty gud, but not crazy difficult like people were saying.

What is the Hardest race in the game to learn the mechanics? I just won a game as Cultist and I don't think I really had to learn how the game works outside of snowballing creature camps.

>>148797558
Researched Unleashed is pretty good. Has a bunch of new races, ai improvement and lots of new techs

>>148800738

Ah, excellent. Thank you, I'll take a gander at this.

>>148800449
Cultists aren't hard to learn, but can be hard to set up.
I guess Forgotten are pretty hard to learn, as you are stripped from the main yield (Science) without apparent replacement for it.

What's the best support module?

>>148804757
I use remote hull repair. When you amass a huge ass fleet of battleships using it all at once you can go on crusades without ever having to repair.

the other good support is the one that reduces enemy rate of fire by 15%, the shield one doesn't really help much and the best support for fortresses are the Mines

>>148804861
Does the hull repair stacks?
And do the mines scale? What I got from the tooltip was that it caused set damage, becoming useless for anything bigger than a corvette

What is the optimal fleet composition for 1.2

all taychon battleships?

>>148806527
I do full tachyons with the repair unit and nothing but armor.

However I have had AI do a direct hard counter to me with tachyons or missiles and they do shields a long with it. I usually counter this by doing Tachyons with shield defense then point systems on my cruisers

>>148806642
is there any hope for bomber carriers w/ cruisers to protect the carriers?

>>148806913
I can never get a real "carrier" to work in this game. The fighters are so fragile and cruisers die so easily. Point defense systems are pretty wicked at negating any kind of fighter

>>148806913
>>148807756
I wish capital ships were a thing, like a dreadnought or real capital carrier with fighters

>>148807891
there is a mod for that

>>148809030
what exactly is it called?

Which starting weapon should i pick in stellaris ?

>>148809273
lasers are pretty good, they have good range

mass drivers are also good but unlike lasers with armor, mass drivers penetrate shields better

>>148809210
>>148809210
improved space battles

specifically the doomsday weapons and ships

>>148809419
you wouldn't happen to know if it was compatible with zbeautiful battles would you?

Slavery is too hard for an AI it seems it's wasting so many of my minerals.

>>148810286
really? slavery should be easy as fuck and produce 100% of the minerals found on that planet

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>make custom alien race and put them in the game as AI

>play game for several hours and find them

>later find another race that has the SAME species portrait as that one

This triggers my autism. Somebody make a mod to fix it.

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>>148809273
lasers are more likely to lead to particle lances and tachyon lances, AKA: OP long-range super lasers that fallen empires use as their standard weapons. So yeah, lasers are pretty good.

I'm getting by with just lasers + disruptors + point defense cannons + bomber/fighter hangars. I add a few exotic weapons just for shits and giggles.

If you go with railguns, you're more likely to get autocannons as a researchable tech; and they make a good shield-counter to go with railguns' long range anti-armor.

i heard they removed racism or something in stellaris. What happened?

>>148815467
Go back to /pol/.

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>>148815467
There was a mod that made only white humans appear in the game, and Paracucks removed it from the Steam Workshop. You can still download it on other sites though.

>>148815467
Slavery and genocides are okay, but if you dare diss multiculturalism, you're a racist and deserves to die.

t. kotaku & paracuck

>>148815725
/4xg/ is now a colony of /gsg/ which is a colony of /int/ which is a colony of /pol/

>>148817391

Tier 4 vassal. 4chan mod for CK2.

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>>148817716
You mean something like pic related?

>>148815905

>paracucks removed it

Not really. It was a rogue paradox moderator who lied about the mod to get it removed. The mod is now back on steam.

>>148818145
Holy batman breast, is Paracuck admitting they were wrong?

>>148818201

In the half-assed "we are sorry you misunderstood us" way.

>>148818074
The fuck is this

Also you reminded me I still haven't finished XCOM 2 yet

>>148818367
So in the same way a kid who yelled at everyone before understanding it's his own damn fault, yet being too proud to recognize it would apologize.
What are they, 13?

>>148818520
There's a similar mod for XCOM2.

>>148818074
what level of autism do you need to understand this

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>>148818953
You need a PhD in memes, kiddo.
With a specialization in animu memes.

>>148819163
well that explains it, i almost have my masters in memery but not quite

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>>148819163
>tfw doing a thesis a frogs

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Any recommended mods for Civ V? New civs, new mechanics, weird maps, anything you got.

>>148821971
I don't have the time right now but if this doesn't get any serious answer I'll answer it in about one hour

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>>148821971
Vice Virtuoso's neps mods.

>>148782887
>not cheating
Paradox games have their files wide open.

>>148821971
I'd like some mods too like general balance and improvements, maybe something UI related too..

a fallen empire declares war for purging and enslaving, but loses.

purge or enslave the victims?

>stellaris
>have a bunch of traitmods
>traits don't visually show up but apply their effects
wat le fug

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>>148822359
Vice Virtuoso's neps mods.

>>148823493
I mean, I think having some mod civilizations that can benefit from tundra, ice and snow is a good thing, but they don't really fit the game style?

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>>148823651
Vice Virtuoso's neps mods.

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>>148822213
>>148823493
>>148823872
He does fun stuff. Pity he focused on whatever neptunia is.

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>>148825176
Play his mods already.

And play Neptunia too. I'm in there, they can't be bad.

What are some good Stellaris mods?

I've gotten tired of the repetitive tech trees and the limited customization in ships.

what ethics should i pick for a gross finlandiums

>>148826637

Just get Distant Worlds. Stellaris is going to need a year or 2 (and plenty of paid DLC) to get to where DW is.

>>148825379
>Play his mods already.
I do.

>And play Neptunia too.
I won't.

>>148826943
i'd love to play distant worlds if i could actually have control of my empire's population

>>148827001

Control like migration? Hmm. Never bothered with that myself. If that's a concern then yeah, DW does not apply.

>>148826952
You're missing on something.

Is it possible to change the order of planets in Stellaris on the right hand part of the UI?

>>148826943
That game is too expensive.

>>148827098
>>148827001
But you can. You can stop people from migrating, you can establish penal colonies and you can extermina aliens.

>>148827339

It's pretty awesome though.

>>148826943
Stellaris is never getting where DW is because they will never ditch their 3 resources system

>>148827392

You can? Neat. Is there a use for it though? Again, never really bothered with that. Always play benevolent democracies.

>>148827416
So I hear, but muh poverty

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>>148827506
You can, you set individual policies for each planet.

Populations move freely but you can set individual policies for each planet. So you can have an empire where immigration is forbidden except for a few free worlds or you can conquer and relocate population to penal words where they will work their ass off.

Policies can be set to the same race (like humanoid family) and/or to different races (insectoids, for example). Policies are set in a planetary basis, not empire wide.

>>148806527

I usually do the following and get minimal losses:
corvettes, cruisers and destroyers all with close range weapons like lasers and autocannons, advanced aggressive onboard CPUs (makes them close the gap with the enemy fleet faster)
also I have two destroyer classes, one with point defense and the other with fighter aircraft

battleships have tachyon lances and torpedoes, with defensive CPUs and bomber aircraft

usually the AI focuses the ships charging at them and leaves the battleships alone and they fry basically anything

>>148826943
How complex is Distant Worlds? I want to try playing it but do I have to micromanage everything?

What's the difference between 'Human 1' and 'Human 2' naming conventions?

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>>148828345
You can control as much as you want. From having the AI make suggestions to let it take the decision.

I'd recommend leaving ship design and war control on your hands though.

>>148828459

human 1 is mostly scientist names/other assorted famous people for ships, and planets are named after locations on earth

human 2 is more... dystopian? that aint the word but for example every name would fit in WH40k
nova constantinople for example, have you heard of a more badass name for a planet

>>148828701
I've noticed that, with Human 2, when you colonize a planet it will be called, say, Sol Prime if it's your first colony in that system, Sol Secundus if it's your second, and so on. Human 1 has more interesting names?

>>148829310

I think that's a bug, I mean there are names besides *system name* prime on the human 2 planet name list
one solution is to click the dice (randomizer) when it prompts you to name your planet, then it deviates from the prime, secundus etc naming convention

>>148829538
Y'know, I don't think that I'd ever realized that there was a randomize button.

Thanks so much!

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Does Fragile Allegiance count as 4X?

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>all these events options
Keksikus maximus

>>148831216
>legendary plumber
>advertising her own game
WEW

>>148831673
I actually picked the option that allowed me to choose a great person.

And I fucked up big time and picked a Great Musician. While being in Classical Era.
It'll take ages before I can use him.

>>148831673
>Mario stomps thousands of goombas and leads invasions of Bowser's nation, decimating his army, to rescue a girl who is never in danger and probably wanted to be kidnapped to begin with
>Kirby literally fucking eats the entire countryside because his cake is lost, except half the time he just misplaced it
>pokemon is about training animals to smack each other around for fun and profit
When you think about it, Nintendo protags are monsters.

>>148831874
>It'll take ages before I can use him.
This would be even more meme worthy if you were playing Greece or Babylon, which had written music hundreds of years before your current date

>>148832095
They did?
How does it sound like?

>>148832764
Edited versions of them are literally the themes of their respective civilizations
Epitaph of Seikilos by Greeks, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xERitvFYpAk . AFAIK, the oldest complete melody. Probably more than 2000 years ago it was written and you can still sign it completely
Hurrian Hymn, literally the oldest song we know of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpxN2VXPMLc . IIRC, written by Babylonians about 3400 years ago, but most of it is lost I think
I don't know if are there any others

>>148833001
Fucking neato, Nito.

>>148833001
But is there any Roman music?

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spooky

>>148835615
Don't have a tornado to save you now, do you?

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>>148835757
idk where to settle

>>148835892
Wait, are Mongols your friend? I thought they were invading you

Your happiness is already shit and that place doesn't have any luxuries at all, I wouldn't settle there

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>>148836040
He just took out this loser. ROFL!

>>148837263
Chocolate? Do you have that new luxuries mod? How is it? I tried it once but it wasn't balanced at all, there were pretty much luxuries everywhere, no one ever had happiness problems

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>>148839703
all i have are these.

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>>148839871
Yeah, I forgot about the newest Civ V patch again, which added cocoa and bison, my fault

I have that trading posts grow into towns mod as well, really good one that is. Also it reminded me

I was writing mods for >>148821971 but then I noticed I was over the character limit and writing all of the mods with descriptions would just take too many posts, should I prepare a pastebin for Civ V mods? Or is there something like that already?

>>148840452
>should I prepare a pastebin for Civ V mods?
That sounds like a nice idea.

>>148840452
>just civ things
>implying
Unless you're playing some mod like C2C, even Total War takes longer to finish to say nothing of something like CK2.

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i wonder where i will place this.

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>>148840776
Okay I'm getting on it then, I'll create an account so I can update the pastebin later again. I'll simply make it from the mods I already have installed first, than you guys can tell me to add mods or edit the pastebin in x way

Also not going to include any mods that adds civs, that would just make it unnecessarily long

>>148840856
Justgirlythings don't upload things only girls do either senpai

>>148841749
Or you can leave the pastebin public.

>>148841840
I seriously have no idea how pastebin works, I only used it for one time things before, what is leaving it public?

>>148841874
It means you write a pastebin as a guest, and anyone can update it.
If the update are deemed unnecessary by the /4xg/ community, the new pastebin will be ignored.

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>>148835615
>>148835892
>>148837263
>>148841705
>>148842091
>.png

>>148842947
>unironically being poor

>>148842947
Buy more coal for your internet router, poorfag.

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>>148843042
>>148843227
fuck you telstra they are bullying me online!

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>>148841961
Writing like this btw, good enough?

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i need the coco

>>148843669
Sounds pretty good, famalam.
There's a name, a description so that we don't go blind, and a link.

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They love me.

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>>148843701

So I've been reading Kumo Desu whatever after you people suggested it.

It's pretty rad to be honest, through the spider is a lot less cute than in the manga.

Which allows me to ask a question that would otherwise come out of the blue : is there any 4x with animals colonies?
I know there was an Ants game back in the day, I also know that Endless Legend has some spiders neutrals, but I'm really curious to know if a game studio tried to play on the bug civilization idea.

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my people were upset after i took this city, then he offered me everything he had and i win.

>>148846313
>population decreases happiness
WHAT
WHY
HOW
WHERE
WHO

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Finished the pastebin, I think I fucked up the categorization a little. You guys can fix it, add the mods you use etc, don't forget to add /4xg/ to somewhere when it's completely finished.
http://pastebin.com/5ANRmRur

>>148846706
Nice job fellow Anon.

>>148843701
????? Why is he offering this shit now

>>148847525
Did he have only one of cocoa when you asked him first? They pretty much never trade it away if they have only one copy of luxury. If they have more than one they'll happily do it unless they don't like you

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>>148847525
whaps

>>148846114
>…Wait up a bit, hm? I was a bit hungry, so I was just kind of gliding along wherever, but… today’s been really good for whatevering my whatevers? I whateverly whatevered my whatevers, so whatever, you know.
Top translation.

>when u have enough faith for the great merchant and u misclick general

>>148846114
>>is there any [. . .] animals colonies [. . .] game
no

>>148847748
What chapter is this one from
Kumoko says random shit a lot so that might be legit what she's saying.

>>148846114
She's actually a spider instead of the weird anime spider she is in the manga.

>>148851289
Don't remember. Sorry mate.

>>148851289
I prefer the anime spider. At least it's somehow cute, and doesn't trigger my arachnophobia.

>>148853271
>arachnophobia
Keep reading kek
You're in for a massive TWEEST

>>148853339
I already know about the Fair Lady.

I found the serie by watching pictures on Danbooru.
And porn, but I'll do my best to forget it.

>>148853443
>implying that's the tweest
I'll give you a hint: "Kumo desu ga, nani ka?"

>>148853568
>"I am a spider, so what?"
I know. That's the title of the manga. What's your point?

>>148853701
You'll see.

>>148853875
I suppose it has something to do with the Prince what's-his-face who's OP as fuck and grows up really quickly while the cute spider is fighting for her life down there.

>>148854021
Wew you're misled about so many things
Get caught up and we'll talk

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>>148854096
WAAAAAAAAAIT A MINUTE
ARE YOU RUSING ME

>>148854174
I'm really not. Around chapter...200? This statement
>Prince what's-his-face who's OP as fuck and grows up really quickly while the cute spider is fighting for her life down there.
Will make you piss yourself in laughter.

>>148854307
Please no, I'm out of clean pants. This is my last one.

Also :
>chapter 200
>I'm at chapter 47
Welp. Gotta keep reading.

>Oh? Ohhh?! OHHHHH?! What’s today’s forecast, poison with a chance of more poison?
I love that translation. It feels like I'm reading some LP.

>>148854489
There's like 350 total, since the Side Stories and shit aren't included. I think by chapter 200 it's clear where you went wrong, although you'll have a hint by chapter 100 or so.

>>148854573
>not even halfway to chapter 100
I'm going to spend my next days reading this, am I not?

>>148854712
Depends. I'm a fast reader so I finished it overnight, you're probably a slower reader. Just relax and enjoy the ride.

>>148854786
I'm probably slower, yeah. Since English isn't my native language, I have ot read the descriptions more carefully, or I don't understand how the rooms are supposed to look like.

>A skill earned by breaking taboos. You must not raise this skill.
Okay, I'm spooked. Let's talk about games.

So, Civilizations V. I feel like there's a shitload more barbarians compared to the other games. Just me or am I right on the spot?

>>148855131
I don't think there's more per-se so much as you have fewer units to deal with them.

Is there any place i can read this spider thing your guys are talking about?

>>148855191
What determines the barbarians' tech level?

>>148855202
http://blastron01.tumblr.com/post/128092878250/im-a-spider-so-what-001

>>148855202
http://blastron01.tumblr.com/post/128092878250/im-a-spider-so-what-001
turb0translation's blogspot
http://raisingthedead.ninja/current-j-z/kumo-desu-ga-nani-ka/ for whereever turb0 left off until up-to-date.

>>148855276
I think it's a timer.

>>148855276
>>148855438
Thanks

>>148855438
They started spouting spearmen at the moment I developped them. That means I'm right on schedule.

>>148855276
>What determines the barbarians' tech level?
I think they get the units of the best tech that anyone has researched. So if there's babylon and he's one era ahead of all of you, all barbarians will be one era ahead of you too

It was either that or the average of techs researched, I'm not sure. But I think it was the former

Also, while I really like the 1UPT thingy (it feels like chess), I'm a little annoyed that I spend 90% of my time moving them around and actually 10% fighting.

>>148855973
A nice way to get rid of the weak. Civilization is so fucking savage.

Hey, guys, I've got a Stellaris question.

I'm currently playing a species with the following build:

Traits: Industrious, Thrifty; Decadent, Sedentary.
Ethos: Collectivist, Fanatical Spiritualist.
Government: Plutocratic Oligarchy/Megacorporation.

Now, the goal was to maximize my energy/mineral income, but I had a thought yesterday.

Following the advice that I got in another thread, I've been using a Sector build that focuses on research, while my core worlds work on accruing material wealth.

If most of my Pops are going to be working in a lab, would it be more beneficial to swap out Industrious and Thrifty with Intelligent and something else?

If so, what should the second trait be?

So how long until the first Stellaris expansion pack so there is more stuff to do?

Reading that spider story make me wish there was a sandbox RPG like that.

>>148857192
Dunno, you still need energy for the labs' upkeep.

>>148857307
I get an energy/mineral bonus from my government, which is empire-wide.

Most of my pops won't be working on those tiles, because they'll be in sectors focusing on research.

I'd think that making the switch would be a good idea, but I don't know how the game would calculate it and if I'd cripple myself in the next game.

This current run is going well, but if possible I'd like the next to go better.

>>148857284
Could be something around Christmas, anon.

>>148857562
Then I don't know. My main motivation is pretty much RP, optimization isn't my stick.

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>>148740181
But they are.

>>148797558

Extended AI Improvement Mod 1.05

It's a MASSIVE improvement over the vanilla game, and also contains severa well thought, well designed new civilizations.

Enjoy.

>>148859654
No worries, friend; hopefully someone will chime in.

Is Star Ruler playable now, or have they abandoned it?

>>148846114
Kumo a shit.

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>>148821971
So how about the day crowd? Do you have any suggestions?

>>148846706
Thanks for yours, b y the way.

>>148864729
Fuck off

>>148864729
Bitch I'll slap you.

>>148865723
>>148865748
>Human genocide machine
>Anything but shit

Hey, anyone up for a long game of Endless Legend? I've got a lot of time to kill and want to just sorta chill and slowly starve my cities to death.

>>148867639
>implying humans aren't always piece of shits in fantasy settings
Undead for life.

>>148867808
>Betraying your own species
Scum.

>>148867916
>supporting a species that caused you to be reincarnated as a fucking spider

>>148868021
I was talking about you. Are you a spider?

>>148868183
>implying picking sides in video games make you a species betrayer
Oh boy, and to think I loved playing with the zergs, that I ALWAYS pick the undead in every fantasy game ever.
I had no idea I was worse than Mao Tse Tong.

>>148868332
You are making the argument that humans are shit, anon. That betrays your wider views on the race.

>>148867797
Every time I try to play Endless Legend, I completely lose interest maybe 20 turns in. This happens in civ too sometimes, but not nearly as consistently. Why?

>>148868590
And you missed a fairly relevant part of my sentence. The "IN FANTASY SETTINGS" part.

>>148868812
But they typically aren't any different than in reality.

>>148868787
Because Endless Legend doesn't really start until you're in 2nd era science.

What happens in Stellaris, if you get integrated by another nation. Is it game over?

>>148857192
Science races can get gimped if they cant get the energy they need to power both labs and a large fleet. You end up having to switch mines to power plants to keep up, but all that tech don't mean jack if you cant build a battleship for lack of minerals.

>>148740308
spirit of the law, is that you?

>>148870840
I wish I was that cool.

>>148867639
>cute girl
>shit

>>148871221
>Spider girl
>Cute

>>148871221
>cute
>looks sicks

>>148740308
>spiritofthelaw's video
>he uses that rider to harass the villagers
>just like I do
There may be hope for me in the end, if I can pick up stuff like that by myself.

>>148873862
I wish rtsg was still a thing, because there are so many things about AoE2 I'd like to ask right now.
>scouting with sheeps?
>counting the time before dropping the boars?
WHAT

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I can't have fun at Stellaris.

This thread is dying.

>>148881189
well, a new civ 6 video will be out tomorrow, so that'll pick up conversation hopefully.

>>148881275
Certainly not with me, I can't stand Civilizations.

are there any good ground based 4x Games these days?
I'm tired of spess, and i need something other than Civ and Endless Legend.

>>148881543
Master of Magic.
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri.
Call To Power.
Supreme Commander : Forged Alliance.
Custom Maid 3D : Electric Boogaloo.

Without spoiling Kumo Desu ga, Nani Ka, could anyone tell me if it's normal that time passes more quickly outside of the Labyrinth?

I don't know if it's a major plothole or if it's normal and will be explained later and it bugs me.

>>148881543
Master of Magic is pretty decent but is old.

Maybe the Heroes of Maight and Magic, but I have no idea if they're considered 4X.

ded

>>148869701
So, I should stick with what I'm doing, then? I suppose that the Traits I've chosen do allow my colonies to be more self-sufficient in the long run.

I just want to let you Stellaris supporters know that I fucking hate you.

From the bottom of my heart-- I HATE YOU FOR RUINING 2016.

2016 was supposed to be the year for 4x games. True 4x games.

Not grand strategy behind a fake mask like Stellaris.

I've been warning /4xg/ since April to dump Stellaris,but you contrarian idiots insisted on ruining the general with your indefensibly problematic game.

Stellaris supporters are no better than /gsg/.

Thanks for letting grand strategy win, dipshits.

There goes my beloved 4x general.

Destroyed by you sodomites.

Really appreciate it, assholes.

>>148885219
The second line reminds me of a pasta from /kspg/
The third line also reminds me of a pasta from /kspg/, but I don't remember if it's the same pasta

>>148885219
Cool story. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

>>148885219

>the OP is civ
>a good half of the posts are civ or non-stellaris games

i can't bite this

>>148885520
I'm sure there are more posts about that spider novel than about Stellaris.

>>148885813

out of curiosity was there any context to the
>2016 was supposed to be the year for 4x games.
line?

was there some kind of super hyped 4x out this year?

I mean, gsg and civ-type games are both kind of 4x, but grand strat usually gets segregated off elsewhere, was there any civ-type games out that were really hyped in 2016?

>>148886048
Why the fuck are you asking me? Do I look like I know?

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>>148886368

I was just wondering if you knew any context or if it was just memespeak.

>>148886048
>>148886368
Well Civilization 6 is being released right?

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>>148886521

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>>148868590
Let's compare, shall we?

Human "women":
>age like milk
>are total sluts by age 14
>are not faithful at all
>are essentially mentally retarded

Elven goddesses:
>retain their natural beauty
>are reserved and polite
>have standards and respect their partner
>are smart and well-spoken

I guess human chicks really are just pointless, huh? Every man would rather have an elven goddess.

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>>148886549

>civilization 6
>year of 4x

yeah, and Stellaris was supposed to be the pinnacle of grand strat

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>>148886791

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>>148886791
>Elf fucker

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>>148886791

>unironically liking elves

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>>148885219
>There goes my beloved 4x general
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/subject/civ4xg/start/2016-01-01/end/2016-05-08/

Archipelagos are to damn fun. All these exotic cities all over the world!

So I'm playing my first Stellaris campaign with ballistic weapons, did I fucked up?

And the game isn't that hard or complicated. Borders troll me though.

>>148891170
Ballistic is okay.
Missiles and lasers are shit tho.

>>148886791
>elves
>reserved and polite
>have standards

>>148891170
>>148891589

did balance change in 1.2?

Torpedoes are great against AI because AI is retarded and does not use point defence, to my experience.

I currently ran my endgame fleets prior to 1.2:

>Autocannon gunships,
>Point Defence evasion shield corvettes
>Laser corvettes

>torpedo boat destroyers
>ion cannon lance destroyers
>high end ballistic destroyers with autocannons on the side

>strike craft carrier cruisers, with point defense
>gunship/torpedo cruisers

battleships go into four distinct categories (and a single 'fleet' usually gets one of each)
>heavy energy lance platforms with shield boost aura
>strike craft carrier with shield boost aura
>something else that probably had lances or some shit and had repair aura
>something else I can't remember with the enemy shield weakening aura

I find lances to be extremely useful in just dealing a whole ton of reliable damage from long ranges, the picket field of corvettes with autocannons and point defence perform well at stripping shields once you reach knife-fight distances and absorb a lot of enemy fire.

Your own strike craft and torpedoes will obviously not perform well against fleets with tons of PD, but a lot of players are cheap faggots and just forget to use it. However putting them in your fleet FORCES the enemy to start investing in PD or fighters or they will be punished.

Important thing is to avoid putting a single weapon type on your ships, because all a player has to do is put [defence that counters that weapon] on their ships and they'll outperform massively.

It's worth saying that, against AI, you really don't need to bother making a ton of designs and making balanced fleets.

About the Stellaris Special Project where you find a planet where the natives killed themselves off, and you can dig up the weapons they buried because they were the cause of their extinction: does it only give you a base standard weapon tech, or is there a chance for higher-tech stuff?
I just think it would be nice to have some variation to it; rather than just "these guys were too suicidially violent to live," have a race that just discovered something they didn't fully grasp the danger of, like if they found a crashed starship and the nation it crashed in decided to use it's Talcyon Lance, not realizing that instead of the "country-buster" they'd envisioned, it was more of a continent-buster, that fucked up everything between it and the target too.

>>148882336
I was reading and i was wondering the same, after all it doesnt seem like a lot of time passed to Kumo, two weeks or a month at best, but the human kids are already older

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>>148893297
>>148891589
>>148891170

you know, he just asked about starting weapons

and the weapons you start with really have zero fucking impact

your civ doesn't even get a bonus for that weapon type, you just happen to start with missiles, and you can switch to another type very easily

picked up BE on the last sale, Duncan is a bully that is all.

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>>148894307

>Duncan

>>148893297
>did balance change in 1.2?
yes
>Torpedoes are great against AI because AI is retarded and does not use point defence, to my experience.
they fixed that, the AI uses PD now

fighters and bombers got a serious buff, if you can get the amoeba strike craft early they are pretty good.

Lances are still better than everything else for the lategame.
Since teh Ai loves shields, disruptors are a somewhat viable second.
Neutron torps are a distant third, PD can't stop them and they ignore shields but they are slow as fuck.

Kinetic artillery, swarmer missiles, the big flak guns etc. are still completely useless.
honorable mention goes to autocannons for interdictor stations

>>148895273

Ah, I see.

This pleases me, it'll be interesting to see just how much PD the AI is willing to field. This could either make my carriers hugely more powerful or just not really as useful against AI.

>Kinetic artillery, swarmer missiles, the big flak guns etc. are still completely useless.

rip, swarmer missiles need some kind of big hit advantage specifically against smaller craft, and the big flak guns need to actually completely shred fighters with absolute piss-ease before I could ever consider taking them.

i don't really know how to fix kinetic artillery, 50% shield penetration, maybe? their accuracy is pretty terrible so particle lances and neutron torpedoes just seem better in every way

>>148895756

Flak cannons will never be viable because you're required to trade out a large weapon hardpoint for point defense.
You can put small point defense cannons on pretty much every ship in your fleet with no downsides, and you're not using up a more valuable hardpoint like a large, which you could put a lance, energy torpedo, or just a large weapon on.

There's no situation that will make it good.

>>148893680
I don't know if it'll be explained later or if it's a major plothole and it stresses me.

>>148893663
You can indeed find tachyon lances. I don't know whether it's pure RNG or situational, but some anon put up screens where he was using tachys in like 2260 from that exact event.

>>148897547

that's fucking insane

i remember there was a mod which redesigned weapon balance and in the process it removed particle lances and neutron torpedoes, kinetic artillery etc.

however people could still get lances through certain events (or from salvaging from fallen empires)

that's actually kind of a cool idea, incredibly fucking rare, but possible, just like materialists getting psi

>>148897954
Goddamn Materialists are the fucking worst because of that psi lock out.

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>start up a new game after not playing in months
>couple of hours into the game
>got like 20-30 planets
>start war against neighbour that i've been friend with since start cuz he doesn't wanna give me his credits
>he has overwhelming tech but inferior in fleet power and capacity
>my army is on the other side of the galaxy
>should be fine right with only my fleet?
>Lost more then 50% of my fleet cuz rebellion on 3 other planets of mine at the same time
>kills everything he has anyways and starts bombing all his planets
>77% in warscore but can't win yet because he's allied with some stupid parrot guy that's across the galaxy
>this other bird guy comes from nowhere and declares war on the guy i'm fighting atm
>okay what are you gonna do m8, i've pretty much killed all his shit already.
>he sends in like 50 units of army dudes and captures all the planets
>can't do anything about it cuz half my fleet is destroyed and he was already slightly stronger before the war
>he fucking wins the war and vassalize the empire
>i have to offer white peace to the parrot guy cuz all the demands was to my neighbour

almost 2 hours of work and he comes in and steals everything

>>148898143
>trusting a guy called Molester
Dude, it's like opening the door to a guy named The Colon Destroyer.

>>148898092

i remember some kind of really bitchy threads about how the stellaris developers clearly don't care about lore because materialists can get psi at all

if, right now, right this second, hard evidence came out that some humans had psionic powers and could demonstrably read minds, it would be accepted by the scientific community very fast

well funded scientists have been checking to confirm if anything like that exists for fucking decades and the answer is still 'no', and that's not because we're too materialist, it's because there's no fucking evidence

if psionic powers are a real observable thing, they are, by definition, no longer immaterial, but entirely material.

>>148898447
That kinda makes sense.

Being materialist doesn't mean they don't believe in magic or gods, just that it's not that important in their lives.

>start new game
>spawn near zulu
>build military for inevitable attack
>he attacks
>don't really lose anything but it's annoying since he pillages all my shit
>push him back
>he accepts peace
>in the mean time my other neighbor rome has settled a bunch of garbage cities 4 tiles away from me
>his army is now on my border
>zulu is still around
I fucking hate this game.

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>>148898575
>>148898447
corps is mother the corps is father

>>148898905
I don't remember that in Starship Troopers.

>>148897026
>[Filth Eater] • [Kin Eater] • [Assassin] • [Monster Slayer] • [Poison User] • [Silk User] • [Merciless] • [Monster Slaughterer] • [Lord of Pride]
I need that game for YESTERDAY

>>148898697
>Not being a militaristic civ

>>148895756
>>148896028
Missiles and torpedoes need at least a chance to re-target when their primary target is destroyed, and things like the swarmer missiles need to be faster.

The heavy flak needs a massive RoF buff.
Lances have to lose their armor pen.
Kinetic artillery needs bonus shield damage and armor pen.

>>148899974
>Anti-laser fag

>>148899762
>Effect – Prevents the holder from feeling guilt.
It feels like she's going to go murderous.

>>148899974
Missiles are fun tho.

>>148898697
>play huns
>be the dicker instead of the dickee

Do it fgt.

I settled a tomb world, then I got a "colonists have modified themselves to survive the environment" event.
Then I click the planet and they've turned into Prethoryn pops, like normal pops that I can use, but they look like Prethoryn and have the SWARM description. Still continental preference though...
Does that do anything?
Should I try to make them replace my original species?

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>>148901049
>should I genocide my own people?
YES

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>mfw playing the tutorial in civ 5
im so fucking confused and the game lasted like 3 hours and i have no idea what the fuck im doing still

>>148899202
It's babylon 5

>>148902395
What the fuck is Babylon V?

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>>148902490
Proto DS9

>>148902395
>tfw there are people posting right now who have never seen babylon 5 because they weren't born yet.

>>148902669
What the fuck is DS9?

Yeah, sorry, I only know Star Trek, UFO, Battlestar Galactica, Space 1999 and Doctor Who.

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>>148902227
Nigger it's as hard as checkers to learn how to play. Are you dumb? Now getting the quirks and irks and going past to know how to press buttons that's another story.
>>148902918
nayss beit

>>148898143
>Neverland Ranch
fuck you Michael is innocent

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>>148902918
I did a weird ritual on the answering machine called google and got this image with a overly tanned space man in it.

>>148902918
Deep Surveyor 9 it's about cucks and their black bull