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/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, June 10th:
671 – Emperor Tenji of Japan introduces a water clock (clepsydra) called Rokoku. The instrument, which measures time and indicates hours, is placed in the capital of Ōtsu.
1190 – Third Crusade: Frederick I Barbarossa drowns in the river Saleph while leading an army to Jerusalem.
1329 – The Battle of Pelekanon results in a Byzantine defeat by the Ottoman Empire.
1916 – The Arab Revolt against the Ottoman Empire was declared by Hussein bin Ali, Sharif of Mecca.
1940 – World War II: Italy declares war on France and the United Kingdom.


>News
EU4 DD09/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-9th-of-june-2016.944664/

CK2 DD 8 - Life goes on
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-development-diary-8-life-goes-on.939724/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
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# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - General Fixes V004
http://pastebin.com/ycs3f6UA

>>[CK2 - 2.5.2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.3.3 - 21/03/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

Old Thread >>145075863
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>145107126
>>145107165
FUCK

OFF

STEAMGROUP RAIDER

REPORT AND IGNORE THIS RAID THREAD
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>>145107165
not even close to under 10 sec

son i am disappoint
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>>145107126
New ck2 dlc when
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>GPs in eu4
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>>145107126

A GUIDE TO HOI 4 MULTIPLAYER NATIONS

also my top 5 minor states to play as

>spain: solid 40 division infantry force if you can survive the civil war, lots of opportunities in Africa and in Europe
>indian raj: fuck ton of units, pretty much a small major, only downside is facing japan once in a blue moon
>Canada: decent units again, safe spot on the map, can specialise as a paratrooper/ marine/ armored force
>Greece: low industry but very included in diplomacy during multiplayer games due to it's place on the map, can effectively hold down the Baltics against stacks twice it's size and had lots of potential to expand
>Poland: great for a short game, usually one of the major powers will want to have you in their faction and rarely double team due to how early world wars kick off, great start in equipment and can really fuck over major powers if they get their doctrine right, fun for short games where you have to leave fairly soon

now the 3 worst

>finland: get raped by soviets, do fuck all for rest of game
>turkey: join soviets, spend eons trying to improve industry, fail to attack Balkans, ask stronger majors to help you the fuck out
>brazil: for some reason all the new tards play brazil, probably because it's big, get shut down by americans or alternatively beaten by your own third world kin, cry to majors for help and don't receive it because lolfuckoilandrubber and it's too far away to bother

MAJOR STRATS (MP)
RUSSIA
>protect national china from japan early game, while massively focussing on industry
>send men off to fight as volunteers in spain and other wars for exp, invest in artillery and anti tank
>pick entrenchment doctrine and employ trench specialists generals
>try to get Poland to be comintern, or leave it as a bufeer while you deal with japan
>wave tactics on japan, get china to help, attrition on Germany
>AIM: BLEED GERMANY WHITE, WAIT FOR INDUSTRY TO DEVELOp
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>>145107642
>MULTIPLAYER
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>>145107642
>mp
Kill yourself
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>>145107642
NICE BLOG
ICE BLOG
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>>145107642
Cool, thanks anon
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>>145107642
Thanks for the tips and tricks dog can you tell me how to beat poland as germany thanks
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NOTHING CAN STOP THE PEOPLES UNITED PROVINCES
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>>145107642
I've been playing as a few different countries and I have no clue how many factories of each type I should have running by the time I get into the war historically. Any guides for what factories to build and focuses to go for first?

Mostly interested in:
UK, France, Italy, Japan, US, Argentina, Romania, Canada, Australia
But I'd still like guides for any other country you feel like helping with.
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>>145108020
That'd a dumb name
What were they thinking
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in my 1936 game europe stayed the same until after 1941 what am I doing wrong? the second I try to expand into poland as germany I trigger a world war against france and uk
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>>145108212
Lucky
my games are always wacky
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>the gypsy bomb
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>>145108305
Is there any country who can't turn in a major global power in the first 2 years in HoI4?
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Hey folks I have very little experience in grand strategy games and wanted to ask for a recommendation. I have a sweet spot for super realistic mil sims like arma or wargame, is there a grand strategy game that is done in the same spirit? Theme doesn't matter, can be fiction even. Difficulty doesn't matter. I just want a super real war sim, maybe even one that focuses on logistics and country wide maneuvers rather then commanding individual platoons on the front line.
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Nice, paradox is adding Israel into the next patch and I can finally form my zionist worldwide empire and kill all the aryans
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>>145108490
no idea
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>>145108537
Hearts of Iron 3 with the Black Ice mod.

>inb4 meme ice
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>>145108537
Read the OP image
AGEOD games, War in the East or War in the Pacific is what you are looking for
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>>145107642
Finland should be a decent minor even in a multi if opposing player isnt USSR or any other nordic nation. Honestly why would someone even play a steamroll and OP nation in a multi? AI being shit is the only reason you can take on soviets.

In my current finland game I conquered nordic nations so I rock about 50 mil factories,20 dock yards and another 30-50 civ facs.(1940)

Only problem is manpower but you can take on the soviets if AI is playing it. If your friend goes germany then finland can be a good addition.

Also I have destroyed around 1milj of ussr troops while only losing 60k. Is this normal or is the game favoring the player on normal,
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Anyone know how to set up multiplayer with pirated HoI 4?
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>>145108490
Bhutan ::^^^^))))))))
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>>145108610
>black scheisse
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>>145105675
After Navarran forces reached Paris, the French agreed to a peace treaty, swearing to cut down their forces and pay reperations, whilst also handing over their influence in the Horn of Africa.
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>>145108747
Yes, you buy a copy of the game
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>>145108836
Custom conversion?
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How do you stop Great Britain from raping your air force as Germany? I've had plenty of fighters and they still get air superiority.
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>>145108587
Jesus christ what a meme
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>>145108972
Started in 1081, yes
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>>145108537
gary grigsby's war in the east
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Doing mods on your own is a lot of work.
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TURN ON THE AMERICAN HEROS CHANNEL ITS PLAYING A DOCUMENTARY ABOUT HOW LIQUOR BUILT AMERICA
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>>145109323
+1
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And modding news events is pretty retarded. Turns out just to spawn one news event to the player you have to write two.

also *similar
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>>145108587
what are the effects to london and the england?
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>>145109323
its true liquor really is the most profitable good
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I've managed to create grobamericums in my first play through. Converted to Fascism built an 80 division army, installed fascist governments in Mexico, Venezuelan, and Peru. Invaded Cuba. Am Currently trying to assist Fascist Argentina win a civil war and subjugate Chili, but because of the retarded supply mechanics in this game I can't do shit and they're Argbros are going to get fucked they're around 1 month from losing their last few victory points. What else can I do to make this fun?
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>>145109323
[ ] Helpful [ X ] Agree [ ] Respectfully Disagree
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>>145108836
With the British already fighting over Picardie in France, the USA asked Navarra for assistance in taking New Mexico whilst their enemies' allies were occupied.

With no fighting having occurred on the North American continent yet, the first battle of the war came just north of Paris, as a large Navarran army met an unprepared British regiment.
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>>145108658
soviets multiplayer can easily be defeated before 1940-41 unless the soviet player has literally god mode strategic thinking; soviets have a 40k inf equipment deficit, have little avenues to gain troop experience, have to deal with the japs and Germany AND suffer from potential civil wars and staff purges. Playing against soviet ai is practically playing against a toddler
>>145108057
for minors? I would say 30 max early game 1937-38 and 40 late game. You should be basically spamming infantry style regiments as a minor. also, whenever you arnt making a civilian factory, keep spamming military factories. I mix them in my construction queues so one mil factory preced a civilian factory and so on, have a cut off point for civ factories as well, like dec 1937-8 (depending how mp is going) and then build nothing but mil factories

got majors, Germany should easily be able to spack off 60 civ factories early game and 70ish mil factories. Use them to go full motorised and stick to a minimum of 50 divisions and a maximum of 70 late game; your doctrine is blitzkrieg and you should shred larger inf centric forces, as well as have the support of Italy and spain.


Britain is a mixed bag in my opinion, again try and get the same industry targets as Germany but avoid fully motorised forces as your needed to reinforce and assist other allies in the field

Italy should either go elite infantry or elite motorised with mild armor support (talking about 1-2 light tank and 1 light tank destroyer per motorised division at best); your the support army and while Germany is blitzing your pinning and mobbing up behind him. Do get some motorised though for Africa. I would say 40 civ factories for Italy (stolen from slavs and Romanians) and again a lot of mil factories

frace has shitty industry and equipment stores full stop, spam mixed industry far into1938-39 and only by 1938 do you want to go fully militarised factories. Go defensive doctrine and spam the fuck out of arty+AT
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what difference does it make having my artillery as support or in combat? in HOI4

Also should I build more divisions or build bigger divisions?
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>>145107718
Historical multiplayer
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Looking for a fun Islam start for CK2

Ideally something that will give me time to grow and experience the Islamic mechanics rather than having to fight 20 holy wars immediately
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>>145110060
Fuck off back to >>/his/ you cuck
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>>145110060
Sharif of Mecca then, or someone in Egypt/yemen/oman
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>>145109323
>people literally getting paid in liquor

we memed this into history lads
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>>145110170
are >>145110164 you lefty redditor.
Also why aren't crossboard links working?
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>>145110357
How new
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>>145109485
I think national unity plunged by 17% or smth like that, fucked up the area
don't know if it killed armies, but strolling into britain was not that heard so I suppose it did
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>>145109924
So as the UK try to go for about 60 civ and 70ish mil like Germany? That's by Sept 1939 right? I'll give it a shot. How many Dockyards should I try for?
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>all of europe, the soviet union, africa, and the usa have surrendered
>still no peace treaty

thanks johan
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>>145110357
three > to crossboard link you newfag

>>145110170
I actually already played Emir of Medina and it was fun, it's the ONLY fun Islam start I've found so far but thanks for trying

Maybe Egypt could make a fun start but the way holy wars work with seas makes me kind of dread starting there because it leaves me open to attack immediately. Still, it's worth a shot.

Might try the border near India since I never do India stuff, too.
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>>145108057
CONT your job as france is to survive until 1940 and begin mass mobilising, try to get a few fighters as well but really your main focus is full defensive warfare

Russia is a case of spamming both civilian and military factories at the same time and again using defensive doctrine to wait until your fully mobilised

>>145109932
arty support is like a passive buff to soft attack, main arty divisions are actual units that apply soft attack but require more in terms of supply and reinforcement: a division of support arty will break quicker then a div with a few arty brigades because the support arty is not part of the battlefield

bigger divisions, aim to change and adapt existing divisions to suit your needs, however only develop your divisions more if you can afford to reinforce them with manpower and equipment

50 divisions of fully equipped infantrymen with AT will trump any day 100 divisions of partially filled infantry and a few partially filled motorised/armored divisions as well. Most players don't realise this and watch as their ELITE PANZERMANIUMS =D or half equipped infantry and a quarter equipped armor get wrecked by 1 division of infanty entrenched with 2 anti tank guns

if you arnt making a surplus on infantry equipment, don't make more divisions
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>>145110357
>are
see*
>>145110461
At least i'm not a cuckold redditor leftard like you, Ahmed Goldenberg.
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>>145108057
CONT your job as france is to survive until 1940 and begin mass mobilising, try to get a few fighters as well but really your main focus is full defensive warfare

Russia is a case of spamming both civilian and military factories at the same time and again using defensive doctrine to wait until your fully mobilised

>>145109932
arty support is like a passive buff to soft attack, main arty divisions are actual units that apply soft attack but require more in terms of supply and reinforcement: a division of support arty will break quicker then a div with a few arty brigades because the support arty is not part of the battlefield

bigger divisions, aim to change and adapt existing divisions to suit your needs, however only develop your divisions more if you can afford to reinforce them with manpower and equipment

50 divisions of fully equipped infantrymen with AT will trump any day 100 divisions of partially filled infantry and a few partially filled motorised/armored divisions as well. Most players don't realise this and watch as their ELITE PANZERMANIUMS =D or half equipped infantry and a quarter equipped armor get wrecked by 1 division of infanty entrenched with 2 anti tank guns

if you arnt making a surplus on infantry equipment, don't make more divisions

>>145110505
remember to be constantly building factories, once you get to the 50-60 mark in civ factories for Britain literally spam mil factories and don't look at construction ever again. also, entwine your factory production so every 1 civ factory you make leads to a military factory after

fuck making dockyards, your fleet is unbeatable in Europe unless someone like Germany or Italy spams naval production the entire game. I honestly only produce convoys with 1 dockyard when playing as a continental power as it wastes iron and fuel to employ more docks

also depends a lot on the multiplayer situation, if wars about to kick off inn 1937 then dump civ factories and go full military
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>>145108576
>paradox is adding Israel into the next patch
I don't believe you
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>>145111085
>New Afghan Empire
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>>145109248
Looks nice. Mecha Hitler when?
Obviously, tanks are still far superior in every category, especially style
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>>145109457

Awesome.
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The soviets are doing great work along side my people.
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>>145109835
There was eventually fighting in North America, but it was quickly won by the United States, and so too was the war - New Mexico gained statehood on the 7th of April.
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>>145111471
only through multiplayer can you unlock these great memes
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>>145111786
holy shit
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Is there any hope of going head to head with the british navy as germany?
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>>145111786
So who is fighting who? What the fuck is even going on.
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>>145111786
this is historically accurate though
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Is there a mod out that extends the end date?
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>>145112165
What even is the end date? It's 1941 and I already own half the world
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>>145112165
Yes.
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>>145112246
1948.
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>>145112261
Steam link?
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>>145112437
*1984
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>>145112437
That's weak. I thought it was something like 1953 or so
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>>145112118
Historically accurate

well let me tell you about this game >>145111903
>>145112009
>germans declare war on soviets
>soviets declare war on allies AND axis
>new, game mechanics are such that you cannt attack a coutry engaged in a war with another country you yourself are fighting against
>in other words, I couldn't invade Germany because Germany was at war with the soviet union who was also at war with me and my allies
>therefore, I had to ask for military access from adolf hitler in order to invade Russia via germany
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>>145111124
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-1-0-1-hotfix-beta-patch.945139/page-2

>Israel has been added with the following names;

Israel
Soviet State of Israel
Israeli Totalitariat
Free State of Jerusalem

I think they are feeling guilty and are making up for the lack of holocaust events to remember the 60 trillion
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REEEE WHY DID MY FUCKING BLOB TRANSFER TO THE FUCKING MEXICANS WHAT THE FUCK MAN
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>>145111085
How do I route convoys to not go through the Med. and get bombed to shit by the Italians or attacked by their navy?

I remember Paradox saying you could route them away from danger in HOI4.
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>>145112683
Definetely doing a world conquest with it
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>>145112718
not sure on that
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>>145112683
It should at least be a decision for the USA to make it when they capture the area or something
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>>145100801
Finally, all 240 pics downloaded and being uploaded to imgur right now, which is going to take quite a while. I'll have to make two albums because apparently you can't have more than 150 images in the same album.

Depending on how long it takes to upload, I might be able to finish it in a few hours, if it takes too long I'll finish tomorrow, because it's getting late.

By the way, do have any fancy title for the AAR in mind, or should I just go with "AARnon's France AAR" or whatever?
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>>145112917
Too bad the game has no decision interface, huh?
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/gsg/ general changes mod 0.04 for HoI4
http://pastebin.com/ycs3f6UA
http://pastebin.com/ycs3f6UA
http://pastebin.com/ycs3f6UA
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dis gun b gud
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>8 March, 1904
Well, at least I can use them as a bait for the Brittish after I intervene in the Boer War. They own a shitload of African land by now.
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what happens if I tell my division to stop using their old weapons but I don't have any new ones? will they start fighting with theyr bare hands?
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>>145112683
>>Israeli Totalitariat
fucking what
Im not memeing but did they actually hire Caleb to do these or something?
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>>145110694
>so new to 4chan that you don't even know how to redirect to different boards
>actually ADMITTING you're a newfag
>coming to 4chan just for ebin MRA and /pol/ memes

Literally kill yourself. You are what's wrong with the internet nowadays. This isn't your fucking special safe space.
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>>145113775
they will use the old equipment until they have enough of the new equipment to upgrade

E.G if I change to inf equipment 2.0 all my divisions with existing inf equipment 1.0 will keep that equipment until it is eventually "phased" out by the newly produced inf equipment 2.0 via upgrades

if you mean simply not producing inf equipment at all, then eventually your divisions will simply fail to reinforce and die
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>accidently start WW3
>realise I'm really behind US and UK on production and techs and also have shortage of absolutely everything
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>>145114000
Oh I understand now. It's 1944 and most of my divisions still use the Weapons I, Does this mean they will get wrecked whey they fight against soldiers with III weapons?
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>>145114121
Its fine,AI cant fight for shit even if they could crush you with a button press
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steamgruppe leave now
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Peoples United Provinces strikes again at the same time
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I finally finished a campaign in HOI4, This is my first time playing a grand strategy game and I'm just happy to survive. I didn't expand my land at all, but ended in 16th place. I'm happy with that.
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>>145111502
No Mecha hitler, but there will be Tactical Surface Fighters and Tactical Surface Attackers to fight aliens with.
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>>145114121
>everymultiplayergameever

>>145114163
in a word yes, but the odds of another nation being able to fully equip their own divisions with 3.0 equipment is slim to nil, and they will likely be in the same boat as you in terms of partially upgraded divisions.

the worst thing that can happen is if you fall behind in armor upgrades or technology, and 1940-41 is where the big transition takes places from early game armor to late game armor. As smaller nations like Germany can't hope to upgrade and transition all the new 1940 med tanks into their armed forces they begin to fall behind nations like Britain, Russia or America, whose industry building up to 1940 allows them to upgrade their divisions at a much faster rate

therefore, for axis players your main winning time is between 1937-1940, while for Russia, America and to an extent Britain it's 1940-45

a decent multiplayer axis player will attack early and constantly, a decent soviet player will turtle and win by numbers and equipment
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>mfw I defended a heavily fortified line across the Pyrenees from a combined Spanish-American attack of at least 200 divisions
>mfw I took only 10k casualties
>mfw the Americans took 900k
>mfw I have no face for this

Why is the AI literally Soviet Japanese tier for every country?
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Kinda want to do a playthrough/AAR in EUIII where Washington declares himself king of the USA and becomes something of an American Napoleon. What would be the best starting point? When George becomes President? Create an event that pops up before that?
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>>145114647
How do tanks fare against the aliens?
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>>145114568
Then you didn't really finish if you didn't expand 10 fold
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Who the fuck though the viking metal dlc for crusader kings 2 was a good idea

All the other music is good but that pack sucks
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>>145110529
What the fuck
Who is still in the war on their side?
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>>145114671
ai is retarded

HOI4 is a multiplayer game
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>>145114706
You realize you would ahve like 80 years you would have no real enemys and EU3 is quite outdated at this point right? Why the fuck has no one made the rice and sand mod for EU4 yet.
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>>145114756
In the canon i'm basing this off, Tanks are reasonably effective weapons against the larger BETA strains, whilst massed anti-air guns are effective against the smaller ones.

TSF's are particularly useful for hunting specialized anti-air BETA strains because they hug the ground well and are much more maneuverable then any tank. Taking out these anti-air BETA allows for air-support which in turn allows victory.
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>>145114517
>Joseph Stalin has announced
>Soviet forces
>Soviet Union
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>>145114798
This is the first time I've survived the war, in this case it was the German-Czechoslovakian War that spilled into the 2nd Polish Civil Wars. All communists and Fascists are now gone, replaced with glorious Democracy.
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>>145114756
>>145114918
TSA's are insanely good amphibious assault vehicles and have incredible stats, but are dreadfully slow and expensive. They need TSF and Naval support if they don't want to get blown the fuck out by the BETA laser classes.
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>>145114875
Years of Rice and Salt? I made that mod for EU4, but that was years ago, probably soon after release, and I just never felt like keeping up with their avalanche of bullshit dlc johan pumps out
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Updated political situation for Soviets, although I still need to get a name for the conservatives
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>>145115241
Wait a minute, none of the party names worked, I'll fix that in a second
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>>145115241
>Stalinism
pls change to Stalinist
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What is up with renaming evey fascist coutnry name to _____ State in the /gsg/ mod? Even Nationalist Spain was renamed to Spanish State for whatever reason...
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Tips for early game industry for hoi4?
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>save mussolini and conquer france for the axis
>italy wont give me any of the land in southern france even though I saved them

Also fuck the soviets

lesmugmussolini.jpg
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>>145115692
Pump out civ factories like no tomorrow
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>>145115241
>Trudoviks
>Conservative
>Stalinism
I like what you are trying to do but it needs to be more cohesive if you know what I mean, like Trudoviks, Conservatives and Stalinists
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>>145115692
build as many fighters as you can
civilian factories
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>>145113216
>Silver Legion of America
>naming a country after the party
nice meme ALPHA
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>>145115774
>>145115845
When should you convert them into military factories and how many should be left as civ factories the entire game?
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Is there a point in building civil factories as US to stomp everyone late? Or should I just pump out mil factories?
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>>145115862
Suppose you prefer 'Free American Empire' Rob
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>>145115692
entwine industry and civ factories (1 civ followed by 1 mil)

for axis and allied majors (excluding America and france) get about 60 civ factories, for Russia and the exluded allies try and get even more (70-80, more as Russia if you can)

then mass produce mil factories
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Why would a fascist America change it's name? United States is fine for a fascist America.
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So you can't just pirate dlc for HoI4? Doesn't show up in the DLC menu of launcher for the purchased version
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>>145115553
Because that's what a lot of fascist regimes rolled with. État Francaise, Estado Novo and others. The German were kind of an exception with keeping the name Reich
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>>145115241
>The All-Union Communist Party and "Stalinism" as seperate parties
???
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Why is a naval invasion sourced from Athens, heading to Izmir not valid? I see literally nothing wrong with what im trying to do, it just sperges out.
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>>145114875
I'm aware of the limited timespan, but Europe is full of enemies anon.

Maybe I'd do it in EU4 but I really only have the base game.
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>>145116071
But in the case of Spain, werent they actually called nationalists or francoists?
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What are the conditions for Poland to join the axis when they refuse to give Danzig to me? I mean I am pretty well liked by my neighbors. We wuz peaceful n'shiet.
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>>145115862
The name of the party was Christian Party plebeian
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>>145115945
>when should you convert them

never, just build more

>how many civ factories left end of game

what you made throughout the start and middle


why?

>convert civ factory to mil factory= lose another civ factory to trade to compensate new costs of the new military factory

>make a new military factory from scratch= constructions stack so you can maybe make 2-3 mil factories the same time it takes to convert 1 civ factory. Lose another civ factory to trading to compensate resource demands for the 2 new mil factories

summary

conversion= 2 lost civ factories and no infrastructure potential in future

building a new one= get two mil factories and lose a civ factory to resource trading

building more always trumps conversion in most nations mid-late and early game
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>>145116367
Thanks
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>>145116220
Didn't they just call themselfes Second Republic?
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>>145116225
I'm pretty sure its railroaded to only give you Danzig through Danzig or War focus, in wich they will only give you Danzig if they are not garanteed or their faction is a lot weaker, or the Danzig for Slovakia focus.
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>>145109924
What ideal infantry/armoured divisions to you recommend? AT/AR in the mainlines? Combat width of 20?
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>>145116021
I think a fascist USA would just stay the USA.
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Oh lord I'm having so much fun with this playthrough right now
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>>145116484
Are you fucking retarded? The name of Franco's Spain was literally 'Spanish State'
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>>145116535
Cool since they aren't guaranteed I'll treat myself.
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>5.22 militancy
Should I just keep killing rebel pops or give in to them already? Most rebels seem to be craftsmen/clerks as well.
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You think they'll add the cute little arrows to EU5?
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>>145116705 here, can somebody just screenshot the main info boxes from the Wikipedia pages for Vichy France and Spanish State and post it with every new thread so we can end this moronic debate over the names of fascist France and Spain being '______ State'

It's bad enough that people argue FOR 'Vichy France' to STAY as the name of a fascist France
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I just played HoI4 as Communist Mexico and spread the revolution through almost all of the Americas.

The funny part was Europe become a total clusterfuck with Nationalist China conquering most of Central Europe and all of Turkey except Ankara.

Don't have pic though sry
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>>145117075

>mfw this meme will be unironically added to liquorlad 3
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>>145116554
my current armor build has been

6-10 motorised, 2 light tanks, 2 light td's, 1-2 light spgs, recon support with engineers

the light tanks counter soldiers and add meat to the motorised infantry, the light tank destroyers can penetrate any medium and heavy tank until 1940-41 and will counter player tank divisions, the self propelled guns rape standard infantry and will be the game changer against soviet infantry heavy players

for infantry army's I always go 9-10-15 (15 for Russia) soldiers, 2(early)-4(late) artillery, 2-4 anti tank (early-late game), throw in engineers or artillery support

the anti tank won't be very good against armour if your attacking, but will hold a line if you are entrenched and effectively begin to bleed player armor and motorised divisions. The artillery is self explanatory and need to beat other infantry divisions in the field. This is a jack of all trades divisional set up that will hold and push but wont excel at either. However, it's better to have this then going full anti tank and getting wrecked by other infantry or going full soft attack artillery and geeting raped by enemy armor

I MUST STRESS THIS, IF YOU ARE GOING MOTORISED AND WANT SPEED AND PENETRATION, YOU NEED A LIGHT TANK DESTROYER, OTHERWISE A SINGLE MEDIUM TANK BRIGADE CAN DESTROY 2-3 LIGHT TANK DIVISIONS, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PENETRATE THE MEDIUM.

medium td's and tanks ar'nt necessary; their slow and take longer to produce, as well as being vulnerable to light tds
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>>145112951
I referred to it in most of the final posts as "The Napoleonic Age," so you can always go with that if you'd like. Other than that I never really named it.

Are you putting all of the text alongside the images, by chance?
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>tfw already got bored with HoI4 and again have nothing to play
>God help me to be interested in it when they fix it with DLC
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what kind of retard makes a beta hotfix
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>>145117472
The kind of retard that fixes a CTD with another CTD.
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>>145116914
>not increasing safety regulations
>wanting your pops to starve
wew
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Damn it's 1944 in my HOI4 game and I have realized that most of the AI hasn't researched a shit.

USA still doesn't have a single medium tank division. They only have light tanks. Also their Air Force is pretty shit too.

URSS hasn't researched planes they should have researched 4 years ago.

Germany doesn't even have an air force, only a bunch of fighters and no bombers. But their army is up to date.

Wtf is wrong wit the AI in this fucking game. I'm pissed.
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>>145117472

>that unironical bow tie
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>>145117658
MULTIPLAYER
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>>145117472
>swedes
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>>145113216
The music should be in a separate pack.
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>>145115241
Fixed


>>145115534
>>145115824
>>145116104

>>145115471
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>>145107126
Who else /Turan/ here?
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>>145117658
>Germany doesn't even have an air force, only a bunch of fighters and no bombers. But their army is up to date.

Sounds like your game is progressing according to history.
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>Some fun statistics for first week:
>Top nations played:
>Germany - 35%
>Italy - 13%
>Soviet - 10%
>USA - 10%
>United Kingdom - 4%
>France - 3.5%

the fuck

japan is easily one of the most fun nations in the early game
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>>145117870
When was the German army up to date?
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>>145117791
Misc campaign guy, please make Corneliu Codreanu a possible fascist leader of Romania
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>>145117658
>USA still doesn't have a single medium tank division. They only have light tanks.
When I subdued France as Germany they had like 5 light armor divisions and that was it. In 1941. Also, none of their infantry had AT guns. Needless to say, they didn't last long against my armored fist, I didn't even have to go around Maginot.
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>>145117912

grossssssssssGeRmAnIuMsSsSsSSS XXDD::DDDD
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Misc Campaign Guy may I ask what mod you're making
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>>145117643
but muh factories and RGOs
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How exactly do I spend my excess experience on making new variants of tanks/subs/etc?

I remember seeing some guy streaming doing it, adding +speed to his fighters or something, but fucked if I can find the option for it.

UI of this game is pretty shit.
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>>145118080
post factories
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>>145114841
British Raj, Australia, New Zealand, and the Philippines

That's it.
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who will make the mod to give hoi4 a proper map and not this glowing neon shit?
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>>145118048
>not playing Heim ins Reich Simulator 2016
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>>145117791
Why would they call themselves counter-revolutionaries?
Trotsky's faction was called Left Opposition, if you're using them.
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>>145118282
British Raj probably counts as a major because of its industry imho
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>>145118150
Go to production and you can probably figure it out
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>>145117829
literally noone you fucking cockroach
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>>145118043
HOI4 needs some serious tweaking or it'll end like Vicky 2 where AI still uses sailing ships in 1935
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>>145117912
japan has a pretty shitty time in MP because nationalist china can easily challenge them and soviet players will want to push them out of asia early

soviet takes some degree of competence and most players cant be arsed to wait until 1939 to go on the offensive, US are the same in that regard

UK is like this but even worse, you don't become OP after a certain point and you effectively have to wait for the US to act or play African safari

France is a losers game, hold for as long as possible, a western poland
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>>145117912
I myself personally am still learning how to most optimally use naval forces since the system is weird as fuck so I've avoided playing Japan/UK/Italy
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post grossgermanium pre fall of the western roman empire
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>>145118150
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Why is the AI so shit at encouraging clerks and capitalists?
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army comp tips?
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>>145118717

because communism is answer :]
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I never really played HOI3 but was it as easy as HOI4? Did the AI fall behind in research so fast? I am very disappoint right now
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>>145118869
epicus falseflagimus
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>>145117376
Do you not care about combat width
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>>145117420
I'll go with that then. About the text, I plan to remove the stuff that you usually put in spoilers, out of the actual narrative, if it's okay with you. Aside from that, all the text is there, yes.
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>>145118150
Go to production, and when selecting a new unit to build, click the variant button. It makes sense if you aren't going to research the next level immediately. The more you add, the more expensive it becomes, so it may only be a fighter that is faster, or a bomber that has longer range.
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>>145117771
It says in the pastebin how to avoid using the new music
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Any way to get planning bonus without assigning a frontline? I don't want the AI to shuffle my shit around like crazy, but the lack of up to +100% soft attack is pretty harsh.
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>>145119175
Not the point. No need to keep downloading the same thing.
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>tfw your at that point in vicky where infamy is just a number
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>>145118862
everything you have lad
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>>145119128
Mhm, that's actually what I was going to suggest.
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>>145118004
If MCG adds Codreanu and events for Romania I will suck his dick tbqh


btw
C O D R E A N U
O
D
R
E
A
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U
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>>145119040
lol no it's not important when it coms to larger battlefields like Russia, where your divisions are spread out, and you won't have a larger enough experience pool early on to make such large divisions when attacking say france or Italy.

it's honestly neither better or worse to throw 13 divisions in a single tile at a 2-3 div stack merely because you can wear them down and eventually force their retreat via disrupting their command organisations; it's the basis of late game Russian strategy

>go defensive tech with massive divisions
>build up industry and manpower
>mob chokepoints and hardpoints with 12 divisions on a single tile
>lose 12,000 men, force enemy to withdraw from hardpoints due to constant attacks and disrupted command organisation
>pop another conscription pill, now 3 million men to recruit
>rinse and repeat

don't ever worry about combat width, by the time it becomes an issues (and you can fully reinforce your divisions) you'll be fighting in russia
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>>145118883
If it's anything like hoi2 then the ai is heavily scripted and predictable, the british fleet is incapable of defending great britain, and generally the battle ai is as braindead as it is now
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>>145119197
>1941
>attacking Poland
>infantry army with a blitzkrieg doctrine
>only 58 divisions of said infantry army

time to retry anon
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you guys ever have one of those games where everyone shimmies over to the east?
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>>145119683
my mistake

>138
>expecting all those divisions to be reinforced with only 158 industry

let me see your logistics screen
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Based Boers are actually going to make it this time.
>>145118278
Will do.
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>>145111649
Following the USA's victory over Mexico and Great Britain in 1861, and the further purchase of western lands from Navarra, Alaskan philosopher Karl Marx publishes his writings on the class war.

Meanwhile, the king and parliament in Navarra took a step backwards from planning the economy and began to leave it to wealthy investors where to develop manufacturies, in a desperate attempt to catch up to the well-developed industries of France and Prussia who had done similar.
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>>145119441
Are you the guy who used to Codreanu post ages ago?
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>>145119828
Still enough there and yes, I should've built those tank divisions, but I honestly expected Poland to give me Danzig.
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>>145119421
Oh, okay then. There are still about 150 images yet to upload, so I don't think I can finish it tonight, but it'll be done by tomorrow.
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>>145119738
the only country that deserved to do so didn't

(Greece)
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>>145119828
Are you retarded or blind or something?
The screen says he has 139 industry
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>>145120179
That's fine, there's no rush anyway. Especially since you're doing this as a favor.
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>>145118363
I'm just going off of HoI3 to be frank

>>145118004
Sure, I can give him a small chance at surviving the assassination attempt and then he would be the legion leader

>>145118054
I don't even know anymore

>>145119441
Do you have any good HoI4-esque portraits for him?
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>>145120151
that is some dank infantry equipment income you got right there

what's your divisional composition? seems like you have such a large stockpile for such a small industrial base
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>>145107126
Completely disgusting and unsatisfying conclusion to a ridiculously long drab war

How the fuck do I not get what I fucking took in Manchuria? All I wanted was the normal chinese border, I couldn't even take all of mangochinko
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have some meme
cooking 7 nukes for moscow
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>>145120331
I am digging in, peace out.
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>>145120091
Codreanuposters are legion fampai yes

>>145120297
Sadly no but I'll look
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AI Germany stopped using National Focuses a long time ago. They never declared war to USSR.

SOMEONE FIX THIS GAME PLZ I'M TIRED OF THIS KIND OF BULLSHIT
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>>145120617
what do?

>>145120718
>marturisitorul mucenic
gets me erry tiem
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>>145120539
Should have contributed more to the war lad :^)
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Stalin to the rescue? Or this is the start of something worse?
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>>145120297
Thanks lad. I have another suggestion for fascist Romania. If Codreanu dies, make Horia Sima the leader of the Iron Guard, and Antonescu head of the non-aligned movement. Historically, Sima and Antonescu took power jointly for a few months between 1940 and 41,( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Legionary_State) before Antonescu turned on him and created his own sole dictatorship.
>>145120718
You were my inspiration for becoming a legionary
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>>145120668
>losing 212k in poland
Jesus senpai just surrender now and stop embarassing germany more
>>
The ideology depth is currently Mass Effect 3 ending-tier, literally just pick whether you want Red Green or Blue and it'll happen in 3 years max
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>>145107126
>China has no unique national focuses or unique anything in HoI4

Why the fuck did I pay for an incomplete game?
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>>145120929
Thats what pisses me off even more, I was in my own god damn war, not theirs. They shouldn't have any say in What I do, I took tokyo, not them.
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>>145120939
>1.37k manpower
Jeez lad
Are you in the allies?
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>>145121257
They will probably add more over time like they did with nations in EU4.
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>>145121131
No way, I'll never surrender and come back is incoming. They've lost 150k in only a month after I started digging in, plus Soviets are gonna get them now.
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>>145121257
chinese mods will fix it

they'll be in chinese though
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>>145121384
>having this much difficulty with poland
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>>145121342
China was one of the main combatants of the war. They lost nearly as many people as the USSR. This isn't like asking for Afghanistan to be well fleshed out or something.
>>
How do I disable the custom nation starting colonists?
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>>145121257
Wait for the DLC
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>>145121384
A month has passed, but the front didn't move.
What the fuck are you doing? Are you trying to create the worst germany playthrough possible?
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>>145121384
>April 1941
>Literally behind IRL Germany schedule

Yeah you're fucked
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>american civil war

>control all of it
>every single fucking bit of America

>allies are on the americans side

>cant cause peace

fucking retarded system

allies are such a gimmick where any country attacked will jump into the allies when they are about to be raped and then it becames a world war

also, the AI is so retarded, hitler attacked the allies (8 countries) and the soviets within 2 weeks of each other before it even finished with poland.
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>>145121516
You know paradox only cares about Europe.
>>
how do I balance building civ factories with military stuff
i just never want to get in a war, so i keep building civ stuff, and then the game's over
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>>145121619
I cant wait for a mod to fix the retarded faction system. Hopefully
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Sadly it's over. I'll do Weimar Republic again tomorrow and then Poland will fall.

>>145121602
Can't get past those crazy poles, they're too strong.

>>145121604
>schedule
If you didn't notice I am a democracy and do not follow the "schedule", but I still wanted to take Danzig peacefully which did not happen. My army wasn't prepared to attack at all so I suffered insane loses at first and then I had to dig in and now the war went long enough for the British Jew to join in.
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>>145121924
If you take too long with Gdansk you're literally fucked, the Eternal Anglo will send a deathstack of 15 divisions followed by Aussie shitposters and Kiwis, Gdansk is literally the single most important objective of invading Poland
>>
Test
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MULTUMIM CAPITANE
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>>145121969
congratualations
>>
is 4chin ded?
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>>145122142
multumim capitane
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>>145122142
MULTUMIM CAPITANE
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I'm still at peace.
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GET FUCKED AMERICA

Will they still get cores on everything and ass rape me?
>>
Fucking gook moot get off your fucking ass and let me shitpost.
>>
Is the shitty incorrect latin for italy's ai faction name still in the game?

it unironically triggered me.
>>
Hey lads, just served a 3 day ban for racism, have I missed any epic /gsg/ memes?
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>>145122501
Yes, but just white peacing once will get you a decision to remove them. Since the wargoal needs 100% warscore, all you need is to wait a little until the AI "realizes" it can't be done, despite it being obviously possible.
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>>145122804
>Anonymous (88)
How fitting.
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>>145122921
I don't get it
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>>145122804
>he serves his bans
>>
How do you change country names in memes of Iron IV lads?
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>>145123020
This place was cancer from what i saw of it, full of /v/eddit migrants wanting to post about their epic ulm games in Hearts of casuals 4, I was glad to be given an excuse to stay away.
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>>145122142
MULTUMIM CAPITANE
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>>145123087
uninstall.exe
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based Franco still at it
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Hiro just tweeted that he rangebanned a country lads
Which one do you think it was?
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>>145122995
mods can see anonymous IDs to tell who's samefagging and whatnot
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>>145123087
presumably just edit the localization file like with all the other games
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>>145123476
>owns a single port
>stalemade xDxD
Quality coding. Galicia-Galway strait when?
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>>145122995
You were the 88th unique poster since I've opened this thread.
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>tfw not German
How do I become German?
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>>145123503
wasn't shitpostland
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>>145118319
am working on it as we speak
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>>145123476
How can you look at the war stats without being directly involved in a war?
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>>145123823
Just ask merkel for asylum :^)
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>>145123476
Can I use this for the Codreanu portrait lad?

>>145123823
Just become a subhuman
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>>145123503
/int/, /pol/ and /sp/ are all saying it was Russia
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HPM for HOI4 when? HOI4 is as bland as HOI3 when it comes to releasable nations and the map. They shoulda got the guys behind Darkest Hour to make the game, to be honest.

Also, is there a way to make it so that when events pop up it pauses automatically? It's fucking retarded how shit like that doesn't pause the game, but then unpauses the game when you're done reading.
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>>145123986
Is it possible to be nationalist for a different country? Does that have a name?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOiohuMkKD8

>Tfw you think about all the soldiers sending letters to their parents
>Tfw you send them to death
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>>145123268
>>145124064
Fuck I'm retarded, I meant this post, didn't meav to give away a free (you)
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I have to say Hoi4 is already my favorite grand strategy. In the future with the kinks ironed out and good expansions and some mods thrown in there it'll widely be considered the best here I bet.
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>>145123804
>I
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Just testing Argentina wasn't rangebanned again.
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>>145124258
>EvW
Too soon
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>>145124120
yeah, a traitor
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Does /gsg/ have a preference for historical AI focuses on or off?
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>>145124352
What if I was born in an artificial country like Belgium or the USA?
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>the germans evacuate the french border
>the french just sit there twinkling their thumbs
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>>145124383
You have to refer to us as GSG for full reddit points, lad.
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>>145124258
>It ain't me starts playing
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>>145124529
>twinkling
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>>145123969
Click on the wars tab in the tension screen (firey globe in the top right) then click the war you want to see
>>145124064
Go for it, the more Codreanu the better
>>145124258
Goddamn...
>>
Thinking of going communist Canada, will the USA push my shit in? or if I don't bother them, they wont bother me?
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>>145124529
they're waiting for the new batch of white flags to reach the frontier
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>>145124383
i turn them off because the only reason I'm playing is to have an ahistorical shitshow, if I wanted to play WW2 for the hundredth time I'd go back and play 3 again
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I tried to make a HOI4 Johan portrait, lads
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>>145124524
it's still a country that exists
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>>145124890
Not jewish enough
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>>145124681
>>145124548
>>145124347
>waah waah muh cold war geese
You lads know DH exists, right? Try not being casual scrubs, okay?
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>>145124890
>Johan HOI 3

Kek good one
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> Reactionary rebels
> In a reactionary dictatorship
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>hoi4 doesnt have hos and hog
What's the point if i can't have based Eddie 8 and Mozzles running the scene?
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>>145124258
I'm so glad Parodx trashed this game and made HOY4, EvW looked like autistic shit.
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>>145125058
You're not reactionary enough
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>>145125058
lad they want an absolute monarchy

pretty sure those rebels are coded to spawn because of Empire of Mexico railroading

hoy4 doesn't have railroading buy it goy
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>>145124946
t. podcat
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»145125135
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>>145122921
>>145123804
if you really are a mod ban me faggot
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>>145125280
This. If people want railroading that much they should go read a WW2 book amirite?? XD
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>Servers go haywire
>The solution is to range ban all of Russia

10/10 hiro
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who's ready to live in this disgusting new world?

>free india is a puppet of Italy
>the UK is a puppet of Nationalist Spain
>what's left of Canada is a puppet of Japan
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>>145125097
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>>145125423
No you mong, 4ChanX shows when a new poster posts by appending a number next to their name based on the number of Unique IPs in the thread.
>>
Why is liquor so profitable?
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>>145125496
>Italian India
Jesus christ that sounds even worse than regular India
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>>145125385
It's not bait at all you fucking shitposter.

I've played the EvW trial and it was absolute shit compared to HOY4.

The HOY4 "EvW" DLC will make you glad Paradox canceled that shitshow for HOY4.
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>>145125565
Where is Mozzy you fucking pleb?
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???
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>first three games end in stalemate due to enemy air power
>get advised to put at least thirty factories to fighters
>do this and get the idea to check the ai's settings by loading into their nations from my save, to see just how much they put to air production
>it's fucking nothing, five factories at most

Is the game fucking with me or did the patch change things?
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>>145125598
>the EvW trial
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>>145125808
>irony is always funny!!
Fuck off.
>>
wtf is going on
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>>145125808
>being this annoying constantly
>>
RIP any Russians who were part of this general
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>>145125669
He was in charge before Eddy but apparently Paradox didn't go to the trouble of making him a minister so I'm currently Mosley-less
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>>145125808
SHITPOSTER BTFO
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>>145126041
Russia got rangebanned
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>>145126109
My point is you can't have both, it's one or the other, which is shit.
>>
HOY HOY
HOY HOY
HOY HOY
HOY HOY
HOY HOY
HOY HOY
HOY HOY
>>
WWIII CONFIRMED

SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
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>>145124317
What is that meme flag btw
>>
Can someone post a DL to this mod?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=699668071&searchtext=
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>>145126294
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http://cs.servegame.com/kaiserreich/thread-2092.html


Thoughts?
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>>145126443
An unfinished attempt at a not-shit monarchy CSA flag.
>>
For Hearts a'Hoy 4, how do I into tanks as a minor?

Logically I would build light tanks, and support them with light tank destroyers and support anti-tank.

But the way the armor system works now (you can either pierce armor and do full hard attack, or fail to pierce it and do almost none) seems to suggest heavy tanks being OP as fuck.

So, heavy or light tank for a medium sized minor (ie Romania, Poland, Italy etc)?
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>>145126443
One of the carolinas I believe.
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>>145125748
they need to be fielded. Deploy whatever you have in training and just exercise them so they aren't green
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>>145126572
Heavy tanks take a fuck ton of manufacturing to make. Since smaller nations have fewer factories, you won't get many heavies out. Lights are just more economical.
>>
>>145126473
God that stupid fucking painterly look is retarded. Just use a colorized photo you stupid shit heads.
>>
what ship type should I spam for maximum naval deathstack potential?
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>>145126668
thanks lad.
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>>145126762
fleet carriers
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>>145123503
>tfw the ruskies will be declaring war on 4chin soon
prepare those report forms laddies
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>>145126572
>HoI1-3: all tanks have their uses in different situations, larger tanks are better at defence as mobile fortresses whilst small tanks combine speed and superior firepower to standard infantry to culminate in a fast moving, IC intensive unit
>HoI4: big tank better xDxD
>>
>>145126753

DEAL WITH IT HOY4 GOY
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>>145126857
But that's still true, the only difference is that heavy tanks are more viable than before since armor is modeled differently.
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>>145126473
>that Willhelm pic
>reactionary
>Mittelmacht
>shitty HoI4 government mechanic

Yeah, no.
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>>145126957
Heavy tanks were always viable, they've buffed them through the roof because casuals think "big = stwong n fast??? xDxD"
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>>145126473
That Willy picture is shit

>>145126827
>tfw subhumans are banned
feels good
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>>145124258
>this game was announced 4 years ago
>EU4 wasn't out yet
>cusader kings 2 only had two major dlc
>I didn't know who WIZ was

I was full of hope
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>>145126857
>HOI1-3: there are many different types of ships in as much of an effort to realism as possible and naval battles are just as important as land battles. fleet composition is important if you are a major power and in land battles technology and army composition is critical
>HOY4: GET BIG MANA OHHHHH YEAH LADDDDDD OHHHHH YESSSSSS JUST GET BIG DANK AND SHIP AND BOOM BOOM BOOM U IS HITLER gRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOoooooooooooooooSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSsssssssssss GgggRGEEEEERRRRMANIUMSSSSSS x---DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>145127067
>not liking the superior HoI4 government system
>not like having a single minister because fuck politics xDxD

>>145127136
You're still posting though?
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>>145127136
So based MCG.
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>>145127136
What is that meme lad
>>
>>145127136
I wonder if there's a way to get rid of the -80% faction joining penalty so you can have liberals and conservatives working properly
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>>145127136
>colonel fucking sanders leading the weltkrieg
>>
test
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>>145126109
Is paradox anti-fas-marxocapitalist?
>>
>>145127420
Russky pls leave
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>>145127136
>more than 3 parties
DELETE THIS
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>tfw waiting for the public release of the best DH mod to exist
>everyone in /gsg/ has moved on to HoI4

i feel isolated and outdated
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>>145127743
Which mod, lad? I have literally just started playing DH after finsing myself dissolutioned with the state of paradox.
>>
>>145127743
>June 29, 1914
>Fascist government happened to us
>>
>almost 1 million wops killed in a German war
beautiful
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>>145127245
Rude

>>145127354
It's probably in the defines, I'll check it out at some point

>>145127343
It's my new """fix""" for HoI4, Willy not included unless you somehow get the paternal autocrat elected
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>>145127852
You can play KR for now, but the mod I'm talking about is Dawn of Weltkrieg. It hasn't been released yet but is being actively developed after a years or more by it's main dev.

Other mods you should look into are:

>Misc Mods, for that Vanilla Plus type of gameplay
>World in Flames II, for the best German gameplay
>The Grand Campaign, for a much longer campaign
>New World Order 2, for Cold War shenanigans
>>
Did DH ever fix Axis always beating the Soviets?
>>
>>145127743
>everyone in /gsg/ has moved on to HoI4
/gsg/ left when hoy4 was released

only hoy4 goys from reddit remain

it's a hoy new world goy
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>>145128047
Add a minister that let you boost whatever ideology they have. Politics are already shit in this game anyway.
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>>145127743
>any mod for anything that introduces any leader as any sort of military unit
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>>145127929
>Dev picture

expect shit like this in early versions of the mod

>>145128171
i only came back to see if the hoy goys left

sad
>>
So should I always be trying to max about Infantry Equipment and Support before anything else? But then how do I make sure I get enough arty/antiair/antitank/planes?
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>>145128126
nope.
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>>145128113
Is miscmods the one that adds ebin gommie germany?

Are they all up to date with 1.14?
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So I just wanna confirm, we don't talk about actual games here anymore do we?
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>Instead of HOI3 with POPs and more wargame features Paradox created...
Hearts of Yiddism 4: A Goy Scum Game
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>>145128126
>fix

>>145128517
>literally all discussion has been on topic, an absolute first in the entire history of /gsg/
>le pleb general amirit xDxD
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
>>
>>145128047
Um EXCUSE ME but Hatay State should be INDEPENDENT between separating from French Syria and being annexed by Turkey
>>
is HOI4 worth it lads

also why is there only 3 ideologies? How do they model dictatorships and monarchies?
>>
>>145128678
I don't care to be frank lad
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>>145128751
Non-Alligned, the 4th way
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>>145128836
t. Johan
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>>145128836
t. Johan
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>>145128751
>How do they model dictatorships and monarchies?
You get a picture of the monarch/dictator. Unless your xountry isn't Britain, Germany, France, America, Japan, the USSR or poland (xDxD) in which case you get a generic ethnic looking man.
>>
>>145128883
>>145128964
>tfw Johan is modding his own games in the underground because Fredrik Jewster and his clique won't let him freely express his autism
>>
>>145128836
wahaayyyyy johan my lad
>>
>>145128883
t. original memer

>>145128964
t. unoriginal memer

>>145128836
t. podcat
>>
>>145129040
MCG started out as a mega campaigner tho why would Johan go through all that just to mod
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>>145129040
Is MCGmod the JSawyer mod of gsgs?
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>>145128665
>hoi4
>/gsg/
You should try harder amigo.
>>
>>145129113
>>freely express his autism
>>
>>145129040
A Johan lost
A Johan knew
He never could escape the jew
And when the goyim cried oy vey
The holocaust began that day
And Fredrik gathered every goy
He told them all to buy HOY HOY
>>
In hoi4, if a tech is ahead of time, does it pay to bank 30 days of research and then start it vs starting right away?
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>>145129296
>needing to specify what game you're talking about
>in /hoy4g/
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>>145129040
Take the redpill.

Johan isn't the reason paradox is shit today, it was only good when he was calling the shots because hes autistic like us.

It's Wiz and Frederik the jew.
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>>145129219
>says the plebu3 poater
EU2 was the last good EU game.
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>>145129372
>tfw my "johan is a sperg" meme caught on
He is literally the head of a developement studio making 6 gorrillion figure sums eveey day. He's not your messiah, he's a jew.
>>
need a map to paint autism desu
>>
>>145107126
I started playing CK2 for the first time today, I can do the whole intrigue thing pretty well, but I suck balls at warfare.

Any tips for a new player on how to wage war effectively? I only manage to win wars where I have a clear numerical advantage from the start, which only rarely happens. How can I fight against an enemy with more soldiers and still win?
>>
>>145129584
Are you honestly implying you'd do differently if you had the choice of being paid 6 gorillion sheckles a year to casualize grand strat or get fired and fap to anime every day?
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>>145129584
Lad Johan was there since the beginning
Svea Rike and EU 1 weren't pulling big figures
It's the new fags at Pdox that are putting out shit like EU4
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>>145129673
What were we feeling, today, sir? Minimalist? Artistic? Intricate? We have a variety of maps to suit your taste.
>>
So, is HoI4 better than 3?
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>>145129696
terrain rivers and generals plus army composition

you still can't beat anyone who has double your numbers or more so just blob little guys until you're a mega blob
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am I spread too thin? did I get too much support? not even producing tanks
>>
You guys can mock all you like, but I think the hoi4 focus tree seems like a good design that will be sufficiently flexible to add a lot of interesting depth in mods. Hopefully we get a mod that autisms up the tech tree again, too.
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>>145129696
>How can I fight against an enemy with more soldiers and still win?

You don't
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How in the hell do I win this war?
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>>145129943
Don't even bother with anything else until you can fill your basic weapons needs at least 90%
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>>145129219
EU3 had a pretty map

Shame Paradox has to ruin games by giving them playdoh meme maps
>>
>>145129997
kill them all
>>
>>145129903
You have the europe map with the modern day borders pre-filled?
>>145129908
HOY HOY HOY HOY
>>145129997
cheat
>>
>>145129997
You don't, surrender before they fuck your country and come back later when you're more prepared.
>>
>>145129997
CAN'T BEAT FREEDOM BABY
>>
>>145129997
fall back to the alamo and wait till tht 30k stack attacks you. Once they're dead start occupying shit.
>>
>>145129943
>1939
>only 8 military factories
>>
>>145130080
eu3 has a shit map lad

sengoku was the aesthetic map parajews ever made

inb4 "WTF is sengoku LOL?!?!? i just got here from reddit to blog about hoy4 HAHA x-DDD"
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>>145130092
>>
>>145130073
should I have just ignored altering my army templates until then?
>>
>Play Multiplayer game with bros
>Be spain
>Civil war stars
>Suddenly my army is retarded
>Germany literally wins the war for me
>Takes a chunk of Madrid and La Manche
>Cant build anything there
>Cant deploy units
>Republican spain joined soviets before they lost
>Spanish civil war has turned into a proxy war against communism
>>
>>145130218
WTF is sengoku LOL?!?!? i just got here from reddit to blog about hoy4 HAHA x-DDD
>>
>>145130218
WTF is sengoku LOL?!?!? i just got here from reddit to blog about hoy4 HAHA x-DDD
>>
>>145129921
>terrain rivers and generals plus army composition
I see, I forgot the tutorial mentioned rivers giving the one attacking through it a penalty...

What about other terrains? And could you explain the army composition a bit to me? I don't really understand how it works I just raise levy and group them all in a single army...

Also, are buildings worth investing at? They are quite pricy and im not sure if the bonus they give you are worth the gold invested.

>>145129969
>You don't
Ok, then how do I double the number of soldiers available to me so I can at least have equal numbers to the enemy?
>>
>>145130080
EU3's map sucked dick, mods like Deaf in Texas added the superior Vicky 2 map to make it not look like shit.
>>
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Kek they ran up on me with a 39k stack and are getting BTFO
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>>145130252
>no yorkshire
It's shite.
>>
>>145130447
what game is it
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I made a mod replacing some of the more meme division icons. No more cat or unicorn divisions.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/mh5ldd1wmkt34kk/newcounters.rar
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> tfw a burger thought he could score a victory in the field near me
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>>145130418
mouse over the differnt types and it shows attack/defense/skirmish values

pretty sure cavalry is shit in forest and mountains or maybe it isn't and paradox is shit

>cavalry is forest
>>
has anyone tried playing hoi4 multi with steam mp crack/fix?
>>
>>145130609
>>145130609
>>145130609
>>145130609
NAME OF THE GAME PLS
>>
>>145130470
Go work to death in the mines you northern monkey

Oh wait we shut them down hahaha
>>
>>145130756
Victoria 2.
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>>145129696
mountains period
>>
>>145130835
t. Ahmed
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>>145130835
>brit up ar 4:44am
I'm sceptical.
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when will /gsg/ return to normal

this hoy four shit is so boring
>>
is there a way to check province connectivity in hoi4 or was that memed out of existence like right-click-for-strategic-redeployment?
>>
Ok guys i need your help. What is the best strategy game at the moment?

Good AI and all of that shit.
>>
>>145130447
>>145130609
what game is this

link?
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> They're going to try it again

Fucking kek

>>145130756
Victoria 2 lad. pls buy
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>>145131006
>literally nothing but shitting on it
Lad, this is comfy /gsg/. I remember I used to get a cup of horlicks and stay up all night shitting on paradox here. You faggots who want us to be contented are killing this general.
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>>145131006
What will it take for Johan to return to his neo-nazi skinhead ways?
>>
Are naval bombers actually OP?

Like can I just get superiority in the English channel and invade the UK with my mostly cruiser/destroyer fleet and 500+ naval bombers?
>>
>>145131073
Victoria 2.
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>>145130507
Could you add the full set of nato symbols? the "use nato symbols" menu option only applies to the default ones and if you don't like what it sets you can't change it to another (so e.g. 3 battalions of mech and 1 battalion of modern armor gets the modern armor symbol, as I discovered to my horror when I updated my SS divisions for 1948.)
>>
>>145131197
Yeah but you need to make sure you have enough fighters
Also you do need something of a navy to draw out their navy so your bombers can fuck them up
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Evropa 2050
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>>145131189
when Wester dies
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>>145131267
>modern armor
What the fuck? Do you mean medium armour or has paradox shat it up beyond all belief?
>>
>>145131189
he looks like the leader of a kool-aid cult, lmao.

that or Cinema Snob.
>>
What would you want to see in Vicky 3, in a hypothetical situation where paradox decided to not capitulate to retards?

>inb4 meme answers
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>>145131129

Going for the throat now, wish me luck lads.
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Alright, what do I do?
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>>145131465
annex the entire USA by 1890

for this war you should at least get new york and maine
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>>145131384
There's early post-war (historical timeline) armor and air techs, which makes some sense with how the game is structured; winning as germany means invading literally every continent on the globe because they designed capitulation so poorly. Doing that safely and easily (how I feel a reasonable nation would) involves years of planning and repositioning and manufacturing.

Having tech just "stop" would be even stupider.
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>>145131502
blob aesthetically and get some sort of puppet in Germany and France

>>145131535
>blobbing
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>>145131189
In due time goy
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>>145131347
NEITHER
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>>145112718
Why not just kill Italian planes and ships? It's not like they have a strong navy.
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>>145131674
all of North America is mexican clay amerifat

you can't stop us
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I've annihilated both of their expeditionary armies so they've resorted to mobilizing. What's the fastest way to get a white peace, killing the stacks they send in or occupy some provinces?
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>>145131808
Kill them and wait it out, don't let them occupy their wargoal
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>>145131792
>all of North America

you imply latins wouldn't help latins
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>Playing as communist India.
>Invading Iran
>suddenly Germany declares war on Iran
>Iran join allies
>Comintern now at war with allies

Paradox why
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>>145131808
>white peace
fucking cuck

anschluss their asses
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>>145131397
It would never happen, ever, so my dream scenario is autists crawl out of the woodwork and boycott/completely shit up /r/paradoxplaza/the forum in the event

But assuming this hypothetical situation, I'd like the ability to fund rebels and it made a lot easier to divide territory between puppets, à la darkest hour, currently the only way is changeownering which is obviously shit.
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>>145131919
yes lad mexicans are latin americans and every south american country will ban together behind gran mexico when we come to annex canada after our colonization of usa is done

we may even go to europe and annex spain
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>>145131347
Solid 7/10
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>>145131267
What the hell is the difference between mechanised and motorised infantry?
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>>145131267
OK, I'll duplicate the default ones as well, so you can choose those over what the game chooses for you.

The variations of infantry divisions would just be the NATO symbols with a number next to it?
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>>145121619
I'm not sure if allies work the same way but if you look at the modifiers for asking to join a faction, it actually says -20 for either nation not being in a war.
>>145121619
Also its way easier to create an Americas faction as USA because of their focus tree. One of the focuses promotes the party with your same ideology in the countries in the Americas without costing any political power since it was a focus.
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>>145131347
incorrect kuffir

this is the face of europe in 2050, by the will of the Prophet (may he be forever exalted)
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Why the fuck won't my destroyers move to California from Panama????
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>>145132320
One uses trucks, and the other uses lightly-armored half-tracks.
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I want to be a good goy and buy hoi4. please stop me
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VICTORY AMERIFATS BTFO MANIFEST DESTINY FAGS BTFO 100,000+ DEAD FOR NOTHING
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>>145108490
luxemburg.

you can still become a decent power if you use fascist manpower bonuses though
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>>145132716
take at least two states
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>>145132716
Yes, your unindustrial illiterate mongrels are much more deserving of the land
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>>145132623
Play DH instead. It's like HoI except it's good.
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newfag here who bought all the big paradox games (CK2, EU4, Vic2, HOI3 and Stellaris)

how do you win a war in these games i keep getting my ass kicked.
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>>145132957
Cheat.
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>>145132882
mexicans are genetically superior to inbred ameriniggers
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>>145133049
>inbred ameriniggers
>literally the most diverse people on the planet
>except brazil but they're not white
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> Invade with 50 divisions
> Get tossed away and left with 11

>>145132882
It's only temporary lad, we will overcome now that these tumultuous decades of war are over.
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is hoi4 worth it? dont want to get jewed by jewhan.
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>>145132514
Why is that a distinction that needs to be made?
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>>145133220
yes, they're already patching out the stuff people have been complaining about. even if you don't think it is a good game, it is still a fun game.
i bought it from greenmangaming using IRON25 voucher code for 25% off, but idk if it still works
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>>145130218
WTF is sengoku LOL?!?!? i just got here from reddit to blog about hoy4 HAHA x-DDD
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>>145133135
If all the pasty colored americans died out I'd love the country.

I can't wait until the so called "white" people are finally exterminated, then there will be true diversity.
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>>145133271
Trucks can't get close at all to the enemy
Halftracks usually have fire support too
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>>145133220
I'd honestly just pirate it, it's fun in short bursts sure, but that's just because it's so simple that you can pretty easily mop the floor as any country you want to play as. Definitely not good for long-term fun once you realize how simple it is to win, and I don't think mods will totally fix the problem. Kind of like Stellaris: cool at first, but once you see through the illusion of complexity it gets stupid-easy to play.
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>>145117912
lmao i havent even played the major powers yet, Dutch Rijk, Mexican Empire, and a short failed adventure into Yugoslavia.
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Is the whole factory/production/trading process as simple in HOI3 as it is in HOI4?
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I'm done for now, I made an event chain to turn Germany into the German Empire, but it's strictly alt-history, Wilhelm will still be able to be the country's leader if you get paternal autocrat in power.
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>>145133724
>more than 3 parties
DELETE THIS
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>>145133724
Fix the UI so you can see all 6,000,000 parties.
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>>145133271
Because it's a distinction that's been made in previous wargames, for one.

Halftracks were the early version of the modern APC, which provides firesupport and anti-tank capabilities, integrated into an infantry division, while also allowing them to move rapidly.

It's sort of like how there's the "Infantry Anti-Tank I & II" techs, but because the vehicles are a really significant investment compared to handing every squad a bazooka, you have to produce extra materiel for it and thus it needs to be its own distinct company type.
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>>145133721
No. In HOI3, you had actually resources to trade, and you would have to stockpile them. You either had to micromanage it, or let the computer handle trades, and possibly trade with your future enemy.
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>Get twins
>One of them gets genius from me
>other is sickly
Guess who is my heir? This game is a bit bs sometimes, with twins I should determind who is my heir, hell I fucking emperor I should chose who is my heir no matter what.
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Rate this meme
Copied some other anon's alternative British faction name
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>>145133881
>anti-tank capabilities
>tanks vs glorified paedovan
Uh huh.
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>>145133853
This, paradox made all the fucking minster lists and national ideas into xbox huge tablet buttons, there's SO MUCH FUCKING WASTED SPACE IT'S PISSING ME OFF
WHY WON'T THEY HIRE A COMPETENT GRAPHICS DESIGNER
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>>145134193
sorry bud first one out the vagina wins
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Serious question guys something I'm really confused about.

Why did Hitler kill 6 million jews and 6 million gypsies+other? Wouldn't Germany have won the war if not for the holocaust?

I mean the supply drain it must have caused on the country to transport 12 million people over such a short amount of time and systematically exterminate them, the manpower spent penning and caging the people guarding them and killing and burning them, plus the supply drain since they used trains which could've been bringing food goods and ammunition for military use instead.

Something doesn't make sense.
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>you will never be hitler

why even live lads
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>>145134193
Why aren't you using a succession law that let's you choose then
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>>145134242
>Australia, Canada and South Africa not even in the imperial commonwealth
HoI4 and it's players can't do ANYTHING right.
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>>145134242
>A X
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>>145134385
The holocaust never happened f a m
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>>145134295
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>>145134385
>Something doesn't make sense.
>>145134498
>The holocaust never happened f a m
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>play british raj
>have 100% communism popularity
>civil war
>half the country and army stay loyal to british
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>>145134385
>fire costs money
>a single armed guard can't control dozens of people
Come on lad, I'm a holocaust realist too but let's not pretend it's a great burden to systematically kill people in labour camps, North Korea are doing it as we type.

>>145134593
>a shitty little shell can destroy a tank
>it wouldn't get blown the fuck out long before it got within range
Uh huh.
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>>145134684
UH HUH
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Lads, not even memeing, but how fucking easy is HoI4? I've been following this thread the past couple days and it seems like you can do anything you want with any country you want.
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>You can develop plans for allies, that they will follow.[10]
I didn't know this
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Uh. Hitler asked for Danzig and I gave it to him, then he marched all his divisions away to go fuck with France. I think I can just wait a few months then blitz his VPs.

Will update.
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>>145134684
In WWII you could take out tanks with a fucking rifle
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>>145134385
Well, part of it doesn't make sense because the leadership was all a bit insane. The other part was that to gain power, they had to blame someone for the mess that they were in.
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>>145134776
Nice rebuttal, is that all, kid?
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>>145134806
same difficulty as stellaris imo
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>>145134684
According to reports about the holocaust they were cremated using coal.

Coal needed to be transported by train, jews and gypsies needed to be transported by train, food supplies and medicine for everyone in the labor camps (remember people say they survived years in auchwitz and were fed enough food to survive) had to go by train.

That's a huge amount of supplies.

Things just aren't adding up

Also wouldn't you need tens of thousands of crematoriums to burn 12 million people to ash in ~5 years?
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>>145134936
In which game?
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>>145134868
[Citation needed]
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>>145134892
But there was no popular sentiment behind killing 12 million people.

Sure most Germans wanted them out of the country but nobody demanded that the government exterminate them.

Why would they do something like that?
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>>145132435
pls help
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>>145134684
>North Korea are doing it as we type.
source: history channel, CNN
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>>145135002
HOY4's new DLC: Plight of Jerusalem
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Is there a way to see your allys logistics information? I want to supply lend-lease to help out, but I need to know what kind of supplies they would need. Singleplayer, of course.
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>>145134919
That seems about right from what I've been seeing. Guess I should just torrent it to see if its any good.
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>>145135225
>North Korea do not have forced labour as a judicial punishment
Fucking epic. It's like I'm really on lefty/pol/.
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>>145135251
noice, tell us more
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>>145135225
North Korea literally kills millions of their people every year to keep them from rebelling.

They are pure evil.
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>>145135409
millions? what are you a commie? they kill at least 10 trillion innocent babies every month.
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>>145135409
Nice capitalist propaganda
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>>145135027
Epic troll x D
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>>145135532
Nice juche propaganda
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>>145135385
When you play as Fascist germany you get a bunch of penalties to your economy and a holocaust informational reminder every in game week and a small quiz every in game month to make sure you paid attention, if you fail the quiz you lose the game automatically

all profits paid to the holocaust museum
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>>145134423
>Guess w
I dont know exactly how to get their votes so I dont want to get fucked over. If this fucker doest die, then Ill switch. That and once You go elective, then you cant go back which is gay.
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»145135532
»145135503
Where were you when HoI4 brought a bunch of /v/edditors here?
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>>145135579
>In WWII you could take out tanks with a fucking rifle
>being able to pierce armour = destroying tanks
Uh huh. So whsn you get a papercut the paper has destroyed you?
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>>145135657
snorting blow off hookers and laughing at how good hoy4 is selling

t. Johan
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>>145135657
gr8 quote m8
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>alliance with USSR
>all of the balkan states leave the Axis because of it (except Bulgaria)
>Russia leaves within a month despite having +80 opinion
>I'm now alone

Is this what getting cucked feels like?
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>>145135657
Masturbating to anime at my mother's house
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>>145135657
apology for poor english

i was sat at home waggling my willy when rob ring

‘hoy4 brought /v/edditors’

‘no’
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>>145135773
>Implying tanks are run by immortal robots that can't get shot
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>>145135884
kek
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>>145135884
1× respectfully kek
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>>145135974
>hit one of the four drivers in the arm
>jolly good show we're destroyed now
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>>145132435
FUCKING HELP ME YOU FUCKING NIGGERS.
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is it even possible to get Poland to give me polish shit without having to go to war? how do I even defeat the UK
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>>145136213
lol
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>>145135805
HoI4 AI might be retarded but it isn't so retarded to actually join Meme factions
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>>145135027
I mean, this *is* a rifle...
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>>145136134
>A bullet that just penetrated a fucking tank wont break your fucking arm and shoot shrapnel all over the place
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>>145135805
>"So I told Hitler I'd hang out with him if he dumped all his balkan friends, and the loser ACTUALLY FELL FOR IT AHAHAHA"
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>>145132435
You'll initially have to reroute the fleet so that it doesn't surpass the logistics limit and then uninstall.exe ____________________________________________________________________________________
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>>145136374
drop paratroopers in london in 1940 immediately after taking france. :^)
>>145136596
This; spalling and shrapnel is probably a bigger factor than any non-explosive penetrator.
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>>145136596
>1 injured driver = tank destroyed
Still not catching your logic here.
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HOY HOY HOY BUY IT GOY
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>>145136754
>driver dies
>they move the corpse outside the tank
>they magically dont get shot
>someone else gets on the driver seat
>he gets shot
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>>145136754
>implying that people are the only things in a tank that could be damaged by a projectile
>implying there is no engine, fuel tank, or stockpile of ammunition
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>>145136717
luckily france isn't involved in the war yet and fascist support is higher than democratic so I might avoid having to face them, I was never able to invade them
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Let's be real here

The only way to destroy tanks is katanas
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>>145134684
That particular gun is the same short 75mm gun used on early StuG and PzIV models. It could destroy a T-34 using HEAT, or any light tank of the period with AP. Couldn't kill a KV in a million years though.
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>>145136958
>>145136754
This too, those rifles were used for a fucking reason, they wouldn't have been used if they didn't work
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>>145136957
>driver dies
>pull out butchers knife and cut him into parcels
>put him in the back of the tank
>get in his seat and drive
>repeat until last man is dead
such is life in ussr
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>>145134684
its literally impossible to kill millions without just shooting them all over the place declaring war.
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>tanks have driver seats
Are tanks left side drive or right side, lads?
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>>145134385
he killed 60,000,000 million jews get your facts straight
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Hey is there any video series or extensive guide on how to play HOI4? I'm new to it and I really don't understand anything, I tried the tutorial and I didn't grasp anything for an actual game, especially as a weaker nation.
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>>145137194
I hope you don't live in europe because if you do you're going to prison for saying that.
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hitler personally killed at least 6 billion jews
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>>145137194
taking 6 million+ people on taxi rides is just insane.
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should I make a pizza?
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>>145136374
You can befriend Poland. Then. after Czechoslovakia is gobbled up, you can trade the Poles southern land for Danzig.
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>>145137557
If I do I will post it on /gsg/ when it's done btw
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>>145137706
>>145137557
Yes please
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12 days into the war.

Goin' well so far :^)

You'd think this is something you'd test and wouldn't want to be possible.
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>>145137319
Check the wiki. They have several very short videos showing the basics.
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>>145137557
only if it's jew pizza with extra d'jew
t. moonman
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>when someone makes an injoke that isn't funny and you don't know whether to say anything and be called a faggot or not and have the general get even worse
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>Playing as communist India.
>Invading Iran
>suddenly Germany declares war on Iran
>Iran join allies
>Comintern now at war with allies because Germany declared war
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>>145137963
>thinking anyone cares if you shittalk their shitpost
hey reddit how u doin bro
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>>145137835
Yeah, there is a series on YouTube of a guy playing as Poland in 1936, and just spams infantry. He defeated Germany, and Poland, France, and the UK had Italy on the ropes, but then Japan joins the Axis, and declares war. Then Hungary joins the Axis, and declares war. After finishing off Hungary quickly, Romania joins the Axis and declares war. After finishing off Romania, Turkey joins the Axis, and declares war.

The AI is seriously retarded.
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>>145137963
only a redditor could be this insecure. You do realise you don't have a profile page where people can see your posts, right?
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>>145137835
>spams infantry
yep, that's what I did. added an artillery company and an AT company to the infantry template, disbanded all my cavalry because fuck cavalry, and spammed them out as fast as my equipment production could handle (didn't care about fully training them)
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>>145138207
I really don't understand why the AI joins factions that are losing, they need to fix that shit ASAP.
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>>145137963
>thinking I give a shit whether people think my posts are funny
>posting for other people
it's current year lad
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>>145138238
>>145138103
You don't understand, lads. It's like someone says "le mosley amirit xDxD" without context or grace and your only options are to say something and have it looks as if you don't understand the meme or don't say anything and have this tedious fucking joks shit up the thread.
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>>145138620
>and have it looks as if you don't understand the meme
lad you're anonymous lmao
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r8 post WW2 world

>war ends
>allies all break NAPs with me and soviets justify against poland
we hot war now
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>>145138238
:)
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autism
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Any decent HoI4 mods yet?

Literally the only one I've seen that was even remotely interesting was replacing all the portraits with anime girls from some WW2 anime show.

There's got to be better than that out by now, right?
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>>145107126
>https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA
When the FUCK is somebody going to upload HOI4 here?
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>>145138853
I can't decipher whether this is a pro vicky post or an anti vicky post but either way it passes all known requirements for retardation.
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>>145138883
Have you tried googling it you fucking autist?
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>>145138853
IS THAT YOU FINNBRO
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>>145138872
All the modders decided it was simply too shit and stuck with DH.
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>>145138995
Why would it be anti vicky?
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>>145139049
IS THAT YOU RANGERAGE
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>>145138998
>google
It should be on the archive, like all the other games/expansions.
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>>145139150
you're lying
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>>145139217
Anything to do with le liquor usually is. Complimemts of discord.
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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/new-mod-in-case-there-is-still-anyone-out-there-playing-aod.856211/

is it time for the better HoI2-like game to return to it's rightful glory? DH is shit for longer campaigns
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>>145139431
>being this paranoid over a failed meme
it's an assburgers guide laddie
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>>145138479
I think that part of it is that you are a threat, and part of it may be that they had a historical focus, but it is seriously bad that the AI is declaring war on someone ten times as powerful.
>>
New to ck2 how would you guys rank succession laws?
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>>145138853
Fun Fact: Bureaucrats consume more liquor than any other POP
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>>145139684
open is best
tanistry is okay
everything else is shit
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>>145139638
I fought in the shitposting wars you ignorant cunt, show some respect. I'm the reason you're not posting simpsons porn right now.
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>>145139431
I'm free to shitposit for the next 24 hours, what is your rate?
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>>145138739
why does a communist france seem so disgusting to me
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>>145139903
>implying the shitposting wars ever ended
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>>145139684
gavelkind the best
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>>145137835
Why wouldn't it be possible? Do you think Poland historically churned out tons of infantry divisions? There was no way they could do it in a financially sustainable way, they had no interest in a war with Germany. The only thing that you wouldn't want to be possible is for the AI Poland to do that.

Which it doesn't. Although the British AI can send lots of divisions into Poland which is retarded, unrealistic and undesirable. Poland had only 1 major port in Danzig, and it was blockaded by KMS Schleswig-Holstein and her task force. There was no fucking way you could ship a huge convoy of divisions there without being noticed and sunk by either that task force or the dozens of subs Germans had preying on Polish merchants in the Baltics. it would have required a substantial RN escort, and that's only asking for German Stukas to drop their load on your fancy battleships in the Baltic sea. Which is retarded considering Germany had already commissioned both Scharnhorst and Gneisenau and that's not something you want blocking your way back to port after being bombed to smithereens by Stukas.

I don't think there were any open hostilities between Germany and UK until a while after the German attack anyway. BdU directive in the beginning was not to attack UK vessels and that directive was there because UK was not doing anything.
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>>145140048
they ended lad

reddit won
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>>145140156
German AI throwing Danzig or War and then abandoning the border 2 weeks later is pretty bad desu. I wouldn't have any of this progress if I'd fought over Danzig.
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>>145140226
these guides are the vanguard against reddit
they can't think beyond memes
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>>145140324
The best part is I've literally doubled my military manufacturing capacity by taking German provinces with this shitty occupation-made-easy system, so now I'm churning out even more divisions.
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>>145140109
>>145139783
Getting mixed messages. I am feduel so I cant get open.
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>>145140324
Yea that's obviously a serious AI problem too. The AI is the weakest link in this HoI. Which I suppose isn't a huge change from previous titles considering the AI is the problem in all of them. Maybe this time the AI can be fixed though. Because it's actually really fucking aggressive and sensible in some cases.

Like for example, when I deployed my fleet into the English channel it got absolutely wrecked by a combined naval and air effort from the Brits, while normally they don't send anything into the English channel. So the AI knows at least a few reactive tricks that are useful.
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>>145140479
I don't care if you're feudal open is the best.
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>>145139684
Do Elective Monarchy, especially in the beginning when you need your lands, not to be split up amongst your bratty kids. Just make sure the kid you want has good traits that will make him likeable to the ai, helps if he is raised with a good diplomat.
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>>145141258
that or seniority and make sure the other siblings become monks or die lmao
this is all assuming you dont have access to primogeniture
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Kinda wish I would have fucked around in Morocco earlier now. Only defended for Gibraltar.
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>>145141945
>not demanding southern france
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has that HPM guy thought of adding any events for creating a Roman Empire in Vicky2? I thought of it when I saw that Papacy could become the Roman Republic when they have a revolt and got excited and tried to play as them, but its way better to just create Italy and get cores on shit.
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>>145141945
>Italian Australia
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Is there a way to play HOI4 lan on pirated copies? We have the same checksum and we're on the same network.
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>>145142119
I joined Axis really late.

>>145142251
>color blind
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>be me, commie france
>hold off germany and italy for years
>invade southern italy, making steady gains into alps region
>look at germoneys eastern border
>completely undefended
>entire soviet army strategically redeploying to central asia

wew
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>>145142151
>Roman Empire
>Victoria 2 timeline
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>>145142251
rightful clay
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>Graphically speaking, the map is reportedly very attractive and detailed
ahaha, wow
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>>145142428
oh good they merged and kept the US war side

>fund fascists in america
>they rise up in the west coast
>send them tons of equipment
>years later declare war on US, fascists join axis
>land army to finish the game, finally
>US I guess elects fascists
>the two fascist nations war for a few days then merge
>at war with me

epic
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this game has autism
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>>145142783
Why is King Calinescu leading the Empire of Armadillo?
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>>145142923
player nations have always been able to achieve anything in paradox games, are you one of those fags that wants 100% historical realism in a game
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>>145142343
bump
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>>145143079
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>>145142151
You should stick to ParadoxPlaza Mod.
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>>145143294
honestly ever since i found out johan and podcat browse 4chan i wonder if they post this shit too
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>>145142923
Fixed
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>>145138238
Why would you care even if you had a profile? Oh I forgot most of you anonymous faggots are pussies.
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Anyone know a good darkest hour tutorial? All this HOI4 talk has gotten me wanting to play the surperior game
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>>145143079
Yeah but paradox makes that shit too easy today. Back in EU3 i fought a shit ton of wars against spain till i was finally powerful enough to invade them in the last 10 years of the game. In EU4 you can do that shit by the 1600's, doesn't help that Paradox has buffed non westerners a shit ton since release because brown people kept complaining that europeans were OP (like real life)
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>>145137557
are you making the dough and everything fresh

because i am actually thinking of making a pizza like such, to celebrate my first hoi4 game as italia
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>>145143623
>spam cavalary
>leave a single coastal province unoccupied
>send castile into a spiral of inflation because AI won't disband navy
in nomine was the best
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>>145143453
They can and probably do, this is an anonymous site nothing's holding them back. As far as I know all of you can be johan and podcat using VPNs
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>>145141945
>spain level with new england
>Newfoundland level with UK
>south africa higher up
o shit waddup, did paradox finally fix thwir shit?
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Johan pls become independent and launch your very own autistic GS I promise I won't pirate it :^)
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>>145144354
I remember whdn I tried to ruse people into thinking I was making a GSG with super high graphics but the smartarses here figured it out.

Maybe I should go do it to /r/paradoxplaza.
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>>145143623
>grab badboy approved amount of land in war
>wait X years
>repeat
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>tfw I can't decide if I should conquer England in ck2 or wait until I've converted to EU4 and make Norman the majority culture in Britain

Playing as Rome
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>>145144560
>ck2 romeblob
:steamfacepalm:
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>>145143079
i was only able to do this because the AI is beyond retarded
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>>145143842
Shit, I never thought of that. Does that still work in DW?
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>>145144626
>Historical borders
>Blobbing
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>>145143623
Plenty of the rest of the world was more advanced than the west at game start though. China would've obliterated europe's navy combined
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>>145144726
>reestablishing empires that have been dead for more than a millenia
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>>145144807
Rome died in the 15th century and I started in the 9th century.....
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>>145144950
This is what Greeks actually believe
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>>145144807
>3 centuries is a millennia
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>>145144806
The only reason the Western culture has dominated for the last 200 years is that it's power has ascended greatly since the Industrial Revolution. Things are going to change in this century. Before the Industrial Revolution, Europe was basically a coping and adaptive culture. As you can see, the Greek civilization was not an ORIGINAL civilization like the Chinese civilization. The Greek civilization was heavily influenced by both Egyptian and Mesopotamian civilizations ( Greek myths and religion had their roots in various Mesopotamian beliefs).. The Greek architecture and medicine were adopted from Egypt and ancient Greeks extensively borrowed from Babylonians ( the ancestors of the present day Arabs) for it's astronomy and mathematics and even it's alphabet was based on the non- European semitic Phoenician alphabet. How about Christianity which was originated among non-European semitic people? As you can see, the Greeks were the biggest copycats in the ancient world. In this ancient time period, there were Confucius, Laozi, Mozi, Zhangzi, Mencius, Sun tsu, etc in China whose thoughts were at least as great as any Greek thinkers. Before you wrote this outdated Eurocentric trash, you should have read SCIENCE AND CIVILIZATION IN CHINA by Joseph Needham which was picked as one of the 100 best English language non-fictions of the 20th century by Random House. I'm going to list some of many Chinese inventions and ideas that backwards Europe copied from China before the Industrial Revolution. China invented compass, rudder, leeboard, centerboard, multi-mast, watertight compartments which Europe didn't use for their ships until the late 18th century. Without all these Chinese inventions, the European voyages of discovery wouldn't have been possible. Also China invented not only paper but also printing including the movable type about 400 years before Gutenberg who had been vey likely influenced by the movable type developments in China and Korea, developed one.
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>>145144950
Rome died in the 5th century.
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>>145144806
Without these Chinese inventions, the SPREAD of Renaissance would have been extremely difficult. China invented not only gunpowder but also gun, cannon, rocket including multi-stage ones, both land and sea mines, bomb, even hand grenade. All these Chinese military technologies were furiously copied by Europeans. Can you imagine the modern military without these Chinese inventions? Even the European Enlightenment was heavily influenced by many of Chinese thoughts. As a matter of fact, many Enlightenment thinkers such as Montaigne, Leibniz, Voltaire, Quesnay, etc. were enamored with the ancient Chinese idea of mandate of heaven that essentially declared that an UNFIT king should be overthrown. These European scholars thought the mandate of heaven idea was much more enlightening than the rigid and primitive European idea of the divine right of king to rule forever no matter what. This Chinese idea of mandate od heaven greatly influenced the French Revolution. Also these European thinkers had a high opinion of the Chinese bureaucratic system based on meritocracy through civil service examinations, while denouncing the privileges of the European hereditary aristocracy. Even the concept of laissez-faire was borne in the ancient China. Both Taoists and Confucian scholars believed in little or no state intervention in economic activities. From about 2nd century BC on, Chinese dynasties practiced free market economy while only intervening from time to time in iron and salt enterprises and also by and large they kept taxes low. The Chinese idea of laissez-faire greatly influenced the French economist Quesnay who in turn influenced Adam Smith. Also in the 18th century all things Chinese were a rage in Europe. Europeans copied Chinese architecture, interior decoration, tea-drinking, etc. As you can see it was the Europeans copying Chinese, not the other way around.
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Did I make Saddam Proud?
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Does anyone know how civil wars work in HOI4, for example which provinces go to which side and how much of an army is split. Are there event spawned divisions for civil wars, or is that only for the Spanish civil war?
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>>145144806
It's no accident China and India were the two biggest economies in the world from the 1st century to the end of the 18th century. Also China invented blast furnace, coking - coal, so called- Bessemer Steel Process, Siemens' Steel process, drilling techniques for oil and natural gas ( China drilled for natural gas and transferred it through pipelines for heating and lighting starting in the 4th century BC, on the other hand Europe didn't use natural gas until the late 19th century). Without all these Chinese inventions, the Industrial Revolution would have been impossible. These are just some of the ground- breaking Chinese inventions and ideas that backward Europe eagerly copied before the Industrial Revolution. Even science was born in the 11th century in the Islamic civilization with the birth of the EXPERIMENTAL SCIENTIFIC METHOD ( all ancient civilizations were pre-scientific) The backwards Europe again copied the experimental scientific method extensively thus bringing about the Scientific Revolution in Europe. The primitive Europeans copied not only science but also math, architecture, literature, etc from the Islamic civilization in the Middle Ages. As you can see Europe was basically a copying and adaptive culture before the Industrial Revolution. Even though Europe overtook China in science in the 17th century. China was still ahead of Europe in technology until the end of the 18th century because there was disconnect between nascent scientific theories and implementing them for technological developments. Before the Industrial Revolution, almost all the technological improvements were done by craftsmen or technicians not by scientists. Even Ancient China was far ahead of the Greco-Roman civilization in technology. According to Robert Temple, a well-respected scholar of the Oriental Studies, more than half of the inventions that laid foundations for the modern world before the Industrial Revolution came from China.
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>>145145214
>communism in arabia
>implying sandniggers would ever give up islam and turn atheist
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>>145107126
Is HoI4 not in the MEGA?
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>>145145195
>>145144992
(You)
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>>145145342
Why don't you check it yourself, wise guy?
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>>145145330
>implying they have a choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7wjLIbMU2k
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>>145145389
Already did.
As far as I'm concerned I can't see it anywhere. I ask just to assure myself.

A simple, yes or no without attitude would suffice.
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>>145145330
>Implying the muslim world wasn't more secular than the christian world up until 15th century
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>>145145579
This is not revisionism.
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>>145145579
how is that relevant for a game that takes place during ww2
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>>145144341
uwot lad? That's HoI3
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>>145145714
>>implying sandniggers would ever give up islam and turn atheist

Just because Islam has been fucked for the last two centuries doesn't mean that it will be for eternity
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>>145145714
It's [current century]!
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>>145145579
There are people that will actually fall for this.
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>>145145807
sure it does, just look at africa
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So im playin vicky as an ethipoian tribe and im wondering bureaucrats or intellectuals first? Also is it better to go annex the others now or wait till I have a military tech or two first?
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Looking for someone familiar with HOI4 event coding to help me with my "More Releasable Nations" mod
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>>145146043
encourage bureaucrats and build liquor factories
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>>145145301
>>145145210
>>145145126
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/Without%20these%20Chinese%20inventions%2C%20the%20SPREAD/
So what's the point in posting this pasta again?
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@145146230
t. discord
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>>145146230
Why I am not surprised thats the answer.
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>>145145380
(debts)

>>145146043
Intellectuals, you need that literacy ASAP

Wait until you have military tech so you can gain some RP
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If manpower is so important, why don't I see more people adding field hospital support brigades?
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>>145146332
Because that's literally the only thing you do.
Not even discord, don't know where this "liquor=discord" meme came from.
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So is it worth it to get HoI4 now or should I just wait?
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>>145146043
Always bureaucrats first, getting intellectuals goes so much faster if you actually have 100% bur efficiency
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>>145146361
Because they're probably playing as large nations who don't get manpower problems, or haven't researched field hospitals yet because theres more important stuff when you can just change the conscription laws whenever you want.
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>>145146427
they started the liquor meme but non discord has adopted it by now
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>>145145510
Next time you have a question like that, check the archive first. It gets boring answering the same questions again and again >>145070753 >>144944676
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>>145145301
>>145145210
>>145145126

Nice blog buddy
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>>145146530
>radical yugoslavian army

lmao why is that in there
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>>145145510
Yes it's in the archive, but it's hidden
Only people with an IQ above 90 can find it
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>>145143213
Make a lan game?
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>>145145301
I for one accept my Chinese masters, but Rome had superior tech and production to anything in the world.
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>>145146723
people lost their shit when they saw fascist yugoslavia in hoi4 was called Radical Yugoslavia even though the Yugoslav Radical Union was a real political party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Radical_Union
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>>145146883
>people lost their shit
>people
A few teenage shitposters and honestly, shitposters are just like niggers so they aren't people
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>>145107126
>How fares your empire, /gsg/?
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>>145145301
and rome did not take anything from desert people
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>>145147012
>he fell for Radical Yugoslavians are shitposters meme
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>>145146530
that war was the beginning of the end for /gsg/
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>>145147106
They are
Fuck off back steamgroup
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How can I annex South American countries in HOI4 without pissing off America since they are all guaranteed?
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>>145146805
How? The only button is Host Game, and my game can't be found if I do that.
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>>145107718
Coop multiplayer is pretty fun
>One player plays Germany the other either Italy or Japan
>Never directly declare only join wars in defence of your allies
>Boost party popularity and start coups around the world
By 1940 Belgium, the Netherlands, Scandinavia, and Ireland are all fascist while Britain, France, and India are constantly trying to fight off the fascist alliance and their own civil wars.
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>>145147194
By defeating the US
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>>145144182
sup johan
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>>145147035
Brits have to be the most pathetic people on earth, your empire was relevant for less than a century but all brits act like they owned the world for half a millenia
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>you can't recall volunters
not digging this meme desu.

5 divisions sent to china will only be relevant if Japan white peaces when they lose their mainland holdings.

On the plus side, it's pretty fun encircling millions of troops with 5 divisions.
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>it's an AI loses a million men in a couple months slamming against my defensive line episode
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>>145146849
http://4archive.org/board/his/thread/139918#p276168

Rome wasn't that far ahead, if at all
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>>145147360
At least we know where the Americans got their attitude
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>>145140156

>they had no interest in a war with Germany

Why did they act all pissy about their Versailles territory? Germany probably would have let them have some Soviet territory if they fucked off out of German land.
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where can I pir
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>>145147371
AI is fucking shit
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>>145147365
That said, the early army experience makes sending volunteers a really good idea, especially to managable wars you can win quickly like the spanish civil war. Even if you somehow lose your divisions, getting ~50 army experience in 1938 is kind of insane.
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>>145145301
China and India had massive populations compared to Europe.

As early as the 1200's Western Europe had a higher GDP per capita than China.

People go way too overboard with "the west has only recently surpassed everyone" shit. The balance will only shift back to the rest of the world if dysgenic breeding patterns bring the west down while eugenic patterns lift everyone else up. Which is a possibility.
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>>145147374
/his/ is one of the biggest non westerner revisionists memers just behind Reddit. You can fuck off back there.
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>>145146849
>>145147374
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Comparison_between_Roman_and_Han_Empires

This is an interesting topic. Techgroup is truly a dogshit mechanic that doesn't reflect how malleable history is.
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>>145147365
Could swear.one DD said you could
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>>145147360
>conquering the entire world
>not impressive
What's it like over in America chap?
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>>145147728
>>145147728
>>145147728
>>145147728
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>>145140584
The AI was the problem before and still is, but at least everything now is functional and things aren't layered with a ton of micromanaging bullshit to get the same result.
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>>145147438
The guy who was German friendly died and after that they were rather hostile toward Germany, they also figured France and Britain would protect them. Which obviously didn't happen.

Regardless there was no scenario where Poland wanted to take on Germany alone and prepare for it militarily.
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>>145147607
>>145147591
>>145147583
>people responsding seriously to bait/pasta
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>>145147693
>conquering the entire world
They literally only conquered "uncivilized" people, do you seriously think conquering Canada, India or Australia is actually impressive?
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>>145147365
I mean seriously look at all this infantry mana.
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>>145147607
This makes Rome seem significantly more advanced relative to China than redditors would have me believe.

Who is right?
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What's better to focus on if you're small - artillery or armor?
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>>145147607
>>145147897
>>>/his/
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>>145147825
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>>145147842Wew
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>>145147813

that's a shame, I think Germany with Poland and the other states would give the Soviets a hard time

And maybe the west wouldn't fuck with them either
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>>145147897
>Reddit is anti-Europe
What a surprise.
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>>145148043
In the decade or so I've been browsing the internet I've been bombarded with "Rome actually wasn't that advanced and in fact China surpassed them" rhetoric. I'm guessing that's based on a) self-hating westerners and b) people attempting to come off as smart by posting "unintuitive facts" or something.

Before the internet I was led to believe Rome was generally (but not completely) ahead. Glad to see redditors are full of shit tho.
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>>145147825
The same can be said for almost every European Empire. Was that your point?
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If I'm in the comintern and currently fighting alongside the UK in the same war and I declare war on a country guaranteed by the UK, will the UK be able to declare war on me?
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>>145148258
Meh, china's scholarship into its own history which could therefore bring a more accurate outlook is still in its infancy within china itself and the rest of the world. Therefore, this whole debate is useless.

https://www.princeton.edu/~pswpc/pdfs/scheidel/040601.pdf

An asian history prof i had is on the end of Ming being the strongest sovereign in the world during its 276 years of prosperity though.
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>>145147992
Poland could have also fared significantly better by simply acknowledging their poor defensive terrain. They opted for a border defense because they were afraid that the Allies would negotiate the cession of German claims if they did not make some effort to hold them, given their abandoning of Czechoslovakia. Furthermore, France straight up told them NOT to mobilize because they STILL were under the delusion that war was preventable - Many of their divisions were far from full strength when Germany made its move.

Poland would still have lost in this scenario - they did not have the military resources to defeat the Wehrmacht. But if they had properly mobilized their army and focused on more defensible positions, like the Warta and the Vistula, they could have certainly posed a big problem for the Germans. As it was IRL, they still managed to do some damage to before their capitulation. From Wikipedia, they lost almost a third of their armor and generally fared worse than they expected across the board, despite how badly the playing field was for Poland. One could imagine a determined, prepared defense by Poland would have at least delayed the invasion of France by multiple months, if not force a re-evaluation of Germany's strategy post-Poland altogether. All the while, the Soviets would be gaining strength - effectively a ticking time bomb for Germany.

Poland was no slouch - the Allies simply cocked everything up at every step of the way, leaving the Poles with a poor sense of the danger they were in and little recourse when their diplomatic blunders started to really unravel. It all goes back to the ludicrously naive and inept policy of appeasement and the cowardice that had corrupted the diplomacy of the Allied nations post-WWI.
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>>145122142
MULTUMIM CAPITANE
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>>145112678
>you cannt attack a coutry engaged in a war with another country you yourself are fighting against
paradox is really going all out with this bullshit
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