/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

>>145147828
>>145147830
inb4 delete

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>>145147828
>>145147830
HPM BTFO

I honestly prefer hoi3

My IQ is literally 95.

What does my IQ need to be to actually learn HoI4? It is very different compared to EU4.

>>145147842
That needs some serious balancing

>>145148034
hoi 4 was actually easier than 4 because you could set every thing on automate and just watch as you conquest.

how do i win an indian civil war in hoi4, commonwealth autists join in before I can get the raj to capitulate.

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>>145148143
>hoi 4 was actually easier than 4
Really makes you think

>>145148209
sorry. i meant 3

>>145148034
How do you know it's 95?
It's probably not, don't let a shitty online iq test dictate you man

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>>145148358
>hoi 3 was actually easier than 3
Makes you think even more

>>145148057
It turns out they do get recalled if you enter a war.

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>Blobbing that much
I need these north german dockyards to fight UK tho.

>>145148508
why didn't you just invade benelux you fucking moron

>>145148597
not op but im pretty sure UK would just guarantee them or they would just insta join allies if you declared war on them.

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trying to access /r/paradoxplaza but it says the servers are busy....

All of the HoI games are easy. 4 has just laid bare how little actual gameplay there is in the series by having an actual good UI and management system (most of the shit in 2 and 3 were useless).

Paradox has been releasing the same game with flashier shit, same as any AAA producer, yet they get praised by idiots. Sad.

My divisions in training at stuck at 99% training? What do?

what's the biggest blob someone has made in HoI4 so far

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where is the /gsg/ mod guy
is tehre an update released yet?
also pls add hoxha

>>145148597
I did took them from Germany, but we only just defeated Axis, so benelux was freed by the peace conference, and I haven't been called into war with Allies by USSR yet, despite the fact that it started because of my support for communist coup in US. I plan to regroup, prepare to attack, join the war and take these juicy benelux back.

>>145148748
Produce whatever equipment they are missing. Or deploy them and train on map.

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>>145148718
>trying to access /r/paradoxplaza

>>145148885
Why do you love that guy so much

How well balanced are the land doctrine trees?

Are any of them clearly stronger/weaker than others or are is it all personal preference/situational?

>>145148903
he was shitposting so mods deleted his post

>>145147591
What is it with /his/? I don't know anything about the board but I recently learned that they make fun of the HRE on a daily basis, now I'm reading this. Is it just reddit?

hoi4 /gsg/ mod guy needs to add better music for fascist / communist music, i'm tired of this shitty metal music and democrats have those allied radio songs which sound way better.

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reminder

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>>145148997
I don't I just want portraits to be fixed especially in the balkans

Also someone hoi4-ify this goy

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Thanks, reddit.

>homosexual heir
>pretty meh stats
>die
>vassals all hate me
>have to give away a holding because shitty stats
>fast foward a few years
>genius ambitious diligent brilliant steward heir
>homosexual

JUST

what will happen when I declare war on a country guaranteed by the UK while also fighting alongside the UK in another war?

>>145149185
why the fuck didnt you just link to it or to the steam guide page instead of making that shitty screen shot

>>145148758
The entire world.

I finally managed to get airplane production as nazis to the point where I could attrition down the allies before crushing them. It was a cool op too, got the dream scenario of trapping half of France's army up in the netherlands like a bunch of retards then encircled the remainder with paratroopers before having Rommel drag his ballsack across Paris.

Now I'm not sure what to do though. There's retarded invasions as per usual that get slapped away with no effort, but I still have to murder the UK before I take care of the USSR. Will airdropping am entire army of paratroopers work? I didn't build enough of a navy I don't think. Four tech 1 carriers plus what you start with j think just runs away from every engagement.

On a different note, what does the AI do with lend lease tanks? I'll load into them and they'll use the artillery and small arms and planes I gave them but they just throw the AT and tanks into the garbage or whatever causes them to just lose all the equipment without using it.

>>145149383
if you're in their faction they won't declare war on you, so they probably wont if you're in a war on their side but not in their faction

How can I increase my organization percentage?

I have convoys and convoy escorts from USA to the UK, and I'm in control of two of England's ports, but some of my divisions have an organization level of 25% while others are at 83%

>>145149437
get air superiority and paradrop london, generally they don't have many divisions protecting the isles unless americans have joined the war

anyone still up?

I've got a real treat for you guys

>>145148034
To learn it well enough to have fun with it? Probably 85, one standard deviation, half the way to legally retarded.

That's not even a knock against the game; it's higher than most games. Something like quake I'd put south of 70, and that's a fantastic game.

>>145149185
>unironically building anything other than hundreds of carriers and naval bombers
>unironically not just bombing everything into the ground with gorillions of CAGs

Has paradox removed that godawful "feature" in HOI4 where other factions can access your territory if you have the same enemy?

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>>145149752
I think you'll all like it but first I need (you)'s to gauge interest

>>145149830
of course not

they also havent fixed the utterly retarded amount of war participation you get from strat bombing

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LMAO epic meme Johan

>>145149914
Is there a mod that removes it?

>>145149969
i dont get it

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>>145149861
Our first move is to go commie immediately and align ourselves with the comintern. It's not going to save us entirely but it will help.

Our equipment production is currently optimized with anti tank artillery, rifles and support equipment, and we are capable of training 5 units at a time

>>145149675
In my game as Italy Americans joined in 1939. When I invaded British Isles in 1945 or 6, I found 300 American divisions there. It was a nasty fight.

The Murican AI was obviously incompetent tho, didn't really do much with those divisions.

>>145149861
>>145150190
>I think you'll all like it
>plays communist Poland
lmao

Adds national anthem to a few nations if anyone's interested:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=701505464

>>145149861
>>145150190
what blog is this and how do i unsubscribe?

>>145150069
You're not an good enough memer than. just die.

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i have no idea what im doing

>>145150287
>>145150376
Well fine since no one cares the story ends with me holding out three years in the middle of the reich

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>get army to the border
>wait for months and they still preparing
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>>145150464
What in the mother of meteoric supersaturate fuck is that

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>>145150518
I thought it would at the very least be entertaining

>>145150518
>>145150626

please keep posting it, its the only thing keeping this thread alive anyways

How do I get "why we fight" if i'm a fascist
I wanna ally with fucking greece god damnit ufck you paracucks

>soviets are inside their own borders and have ene fallen back
>I dont have any bombers which would destroy infra
>Still get fuck ton of attrition and lack of supplies debuffs
Explain this

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>>145150654
I just wanted to prove it happened. Here's an earlier picture of stalin coming to my aid

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>>145150750
and here's a picture of him withdrawing all his troops back the second japan enters the war, effectively leaving me to die

>>145150679
are you fucking retarded or what
if you want that focus just because it lets you make factions, guess what theres one in the fascist tree that allows you to make factions as well, called ideological fanaticism
paradox couldn't make shit more obvious, theres even an ingame wiki, but we still have illiterate fucktards like this guy.

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>>145150861
the lines collapse as germans continue to push forward

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>>145150972

I have only played DH and HOI4 from the HOI series, is there a point in playing HOI2 and 3 or should I stick to DH?

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WE WANT MOSLEY
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>>145150942
wow aren't you a hyped one
go fuck yourself you moron, I didn't see the one on the fascist side
You\re insulting someone and calling him an illiterate over an anonymous imageboard on the internet, how tough do you feel you moron

>>145150750
Why didn't you pull back and defend at the rivers

Rivers and forts are nearly impossible to break if you combine them

>>145151230
t. reddit

>>145151342
t. boboslayer

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how do I convince my father that HoI4 is shit and that he should not buy it?
he has played all previous 3, even bought eu1 when it came out. still thinks that paradox is a good company. ;_;

>>145151501

Just torrent it and install it on his computer

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>>145151268
our superior firepower doctrine gives us massive bonuses to soft attack and, allowing us to doomstack infantry in warsaw with our +30% entrenchment general and anti tank guns effectively making us invincible

Rivers were plan A and worked until the soviets abandoned us, (I have less screenshots of those fallback lines since I was more focused on gameplay), but in any case all we need to hold onto to not capitulate is warsaw, the city itself is protected on two sides by rives and I've been building forts inside it

The germans, recognizing their efforts against our deathfort is useless, fuck off to moscow instead

>>145151598
>Being a criminal

>Being a criminal infront of your parents

Is HOI4 worth a try?

I'm pirating it btw

>>145151501
Maybe let him play the game and have fun while you sit on 4chan and complain?

>>145151692
How does this make any sense? How is everyone in there not starving? How are you getting ammo and other war supplies? Why hasnt hitler just bombed what little industry you have to dust?

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>>145151268
also I didn't want to put a huge river between my troops and warsaw for obvious reasons

>>145151878
So you're poor white trash and proud of it... Congrats

>>145151914
A big game in Bulgaria costs around 100-120BGN

Minimum wage is 420BGN. No thanks faggot

>fascist South Africa is called 'Apartheid South Africa' and has a fucking retarded flag made in paint

?????????????

>>145151823
We control just enough of the state Warsaw (i checked) in order to stay in control of supply, additionally its the capitol so supply flows directly from it. We had the forethought to build max military factories in Warsaw, so we have enough factories left under our control to continue to produce at least rifles

>>145152023
It does not matter he thinks eveeryone is a fucking american. Here in Serbia big games cost 6990RSD
and minimum wage is around 24000RSD.

>>145152023
Jesus christ

Move to a better country you fucking mongolian

Should I go fallangist poland?

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>>145151756

but Paradox went full shit between 2010-12, HoI3 and V2 were their last good releases before they begun outjewing the jews.

>>145152070
I know im just pointing out that a state like that surving makes no sense at all. Still though I like the few soviet divisions chilling in your borders its little things like that that give me a warm feeling insides. One time I was playing KR as commie italy. We lost and like 5 french divisions ended up in my territory and I took control of them after french surrendered. Is the game actually fun or should I really just wait for 2 or 3 DLC?

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>>145152023
>>145152159
>Unironically living in 3rd world countries

>>145152159
>>145152023
>not euros
lol fags

t, greece

Guys, why doesn't my troops move over seas when I gave the naval insavion order?
When I mouse over the thing it doesn't say anything that could stop me from doing that?
HoI4.

>>145152217
HoI3 and V2 were unbelievably bad at release people seem to always forget this. Yellow Prussia.

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>tfw you forgot St Helen is part of South America
I bet the White Man did this

>>145152217
HoI3 wasn't a good release. And even after patches it's not that good. It's only marginally better than HoI2 and it's mostly down to the map.

>>145152332
they're still unbelievably bad
t. liquor and paratroopers

should I go for fascist poland?

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>>145152268
>>145152287
Thanks god there is SKIROW,noSteam,Cin-ru....

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Nothing else worth mentioning happened during the rest of the time, other than the UK forming the holy roman empire

>>145152253
To me those soldiers were a pathetic reminder of Stalin's betrayal. They were to ashamed to come into the city so they spent three years shitting in the woods

I never understood why someone CHOOSES to live in a 3rd world country.

Assuming that you're all adults, why the heck have you not moved to a real and functioning country?

>>145152605
here's a picture of me having to capture berlin

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Rate my Warsaw Pactiums

Red Line is the Iron Curtain

>>145152630
>Allowing shitskins to move into your country
Laughing Hungarians.tar.gz

>>145152721
Shitty mod

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>>145152405
okay, the release was bad, but after first expansion + fixes the game was quite good.
still, the game has a functional OOB and supply lines, and a quite good and large map, something that HoI4 truly fails at

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>>145152710

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>someone tells me to get GEM and Balance mod for Distant Worlds Universe last thread
>GEM is no longer updated but apparently still works
>go to Balance mod thread
>"the current version has been removed in protest to the unilateral and unoptional font increase in 1.9.5.5, which irreversibly punishes those users who choose their hardware/software carefully, after they purchased the game"
>what a fag
>go to last page to see if someone took it over
>"My bad for breaking the rules, my hatred of religion demands that I respond with hostility to any mention of it and I generally don't think to check the guidelines which I should get better about."

>>145152291
did you remember to purchase the "Naval Invasions"-expansion pack?
Otherwise you might have troubles with transporting troops overseas.

>>145152630
I will maybe be moving to Slovakia and that is how far i am going to go with your faggy-gay western culture.

>>145152332
Vanilla HOI3 was a grand strategy game though. It had moderate graphical upgrades, superior map quality, and more depth too each aspect of industry and warfare that HOI2 had.

HOI4 is a fucking arcade game. Simplifications have rendered it into more of a screen saver than even an aracade strategy game. It is basiclly what MOO3 was to MOO2 (not saying HOI3 was as good as MOO2 though).

Eventually it will be a cool game. It's just been 4 years in development with the end product being a ridiculous facsimile of what everyone expected.

>>145152853
>those users who choose their hardware/software carefully, after they purchased the game
wat

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>>145152886
>>145152742
>I'd rather live in poor commieblock nations than be forced to see someone on the street with a slightly darker skin tone than my own

im playing as communist india and im at war with the axis and the entire allies
allies warred me because of the civil war, british raj starts in the allies
germany just randomly declared war on me

>>145149639

Kek, nevermind. I realized I forgot to give my air wings missions

>>145153047
I have no fucking idea.

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>>145152881
I did not purchase anything

>>145153062
>t.DUDE WEED LMAO
Some of us still feel patriotism, something your culture guilted you out off.

Is the western hemisphere laggy as fuck or anyone else?

No lag in Europe, even when there are hundreds of divisions on the screen, but in my war with mexico I'm experiencing a shit tonne of lag

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>>145153062
>I'd rather be raped and murdered by subhumans than be poor

>>145153276
lmao ok friend, I just think it's sad that you'll make your children live in a shithole when they could've been born in wealthier nations

>>145153337
>not having an open carry gun license so you can legally kill a nigger whenever you want to

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>>145153403
>you'll make children

>>145153247
the easy answer is; wait for them to finish planning and then they'll goto transports and begin the invasion

>>145150464
Is this non-faction Japan post "Germany gets rekt by Comintern and Allies"?

>>145152962
The only thing that's been altered dramatically is diplomacy and lack of spying, both of which were major complaints in HOI3, which STILL EXISTS by the way if you really want to play a game with it's god awful tech system

Production mechanics, while certainly less rigid, are also much more indepth than the IC system was before, and a massive improvement over the singular production line that dominates all the earlier hearts of iron.

in terms of war mechanics it's literally just HOI3 without doomstacking. All the same combat stats and terrain modifiers are still there, you can do everything manually and have the same experience

>>145153403
As one Vodkanigger from /pol/ said
>I'd much rather live in a poor country with worse infrastructure and a good culture with self-respect than a rich country with good infrastructure that wants to kill itself
>I don't know why your government's success is measured with economic growth, economic growth isn't the only thing in the world

>>145147728
CAN NYBODY PLEASE FUCKING TELL ME WHAT TECH I NEED FOR MOTORISED ARTILLERY????

I'M GOING INSANE

>>145153505
It did it twice already, I have waited like 2 years now.

>>145152814
HoI4 has supply lines and a map of the same scope as HoI3. As for OOB, that's something that should have never existed in the first place.

>>145152962
Literally paradoxplaza memer.
Things I like: Grand strategy game.
Things I don't like: Arcade game.

Meaningless buzzwords at this point. Trying to evoke an emotional response because you don't know how to intellectually justify your bias.

>>145153618
Did you give them the order the execute the plan?

>>145153705
hey reddit

WEW, just 104 Graf Zeppelin class carriers and like 50 Naval Bombers against the RN, Italian navy and USN. Rekt them all and only lost a handful. Just build carriers.

>>145153614
look at the right hand side of one of the tank tech cards on the armour tab, there should be 3 little icons. research those to unlock SP-Art/AT/AA

>>145153705
>HoI4 has supply lines
>OOB, that's something that should have never existed in the first place.

ebin

Is it normal that the countries you release don't end up having the same ideology as yours? Can you release a country as a puppet?

>>145153792
Justify why OOB should exist.

>>145153732
yes, they just stand still.

>>145153792
then why don't is see them in the division manager?

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what's the end date? I want to fuck up the other axis.

>>145153705
You drag a front line across the enemies border. Then you drag a line through the enemies nation. Then you press the go button.

>you're a literal paradoxplaza memer. teh buzzwords omg!

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>>145147728
Historical Additions: Borders + got a nice update, what do you think?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=520459983

>>145153994
did yo ueven read the tool tip you need air superiority and naval prescense in order to launch an invasion

>>145154007
>>145153792
Halp lz

>>145154182
t. WeBel

>>145154124
You press the activate AI button on theater AI and right click provinces that you like.

Unless you're trying to make an argument for HoI3 having an easier to use interface when it came to battle plans, nice meme.

>>145154202
I have naval presence and it doesn't say anthing about air superiority.

>>145153848
realisim, flavor, basic command and control presentation

>>145154223
Okay forget t. I'm a douch. There are SUB-RESEARCH OPTIONS. JOHAAAAN

>>145154347
Chill out Cousin Willy

>>145154268
except in HoI4 the actual strategy to win a huge 5,000+km war is just as I pointed out. In HOI3 if you just let the combat AI attrition your forces (because omg the computer opponent actually defends itself) then you'll never fucking win a major war.

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>>145153705
HoI4 is when you remove all the depth from HoI3 and then have kids design the graphics to make it more friendly for new users.

Hey guys let me into my realistic alternate reality where Italy and/or Germany has the industrial capacity to build 300 carriers and destroy the USA and UK navies combined.

Im sorry, did I say Germany/Italy? I meant Turkey.

>>145154534
my guess for DLC #1 ($29.99):
>ACHIEVEMENT MET: NAZI KILLER

>>145154630
DLC#2 will be barebones espionage for $19.99

based podcat

Right now we are working on the first proper patch that we plan to release just before vacation in july. You will get more detailed info in coming weeks but the main focus will be:
- AI
- Air warfare balancing
- Making sure invasions are harder to pull off, easier to defend against and more cleverly done by AI
- Improving peace conference scoring
- Quality of life interface improvements
- Bug fixing

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This last test game was an overall success. The economy is in the best shape of any of the tests.
Most unemployment comes from Dye-producing provinces in India. Dye is another problem I oughta tackle at some point, as natural dyes were replaced by synthetic ones. Even if this happens, it creates a lot of poverty, especially in populous place like Bangladesh, which usually leads to some pretty serious rebellions in India.

just in case anyone hasn't realized this yet:

saving and reloading shortly before a peace conference will reset the amount of war participation gained from strategic bombing. affects player and AI.

when did you realize paradox games are now basically the new civ series for a new generation of casuals?

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>>145154870
The Civil War happened a little earlier than the historical date, but that's alright. As long as it doesn't happen in 1850, everything's fine. At least this one lasted longer.

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soo close

>>145154975
>Result
>YES
Does this mean the attacker won or something?

>>145154332
It has nothing to do with realism. Yes, armies are structured in reality but the game isn't army structure manager nor is there any realism in some goon clicking every level of the army and managing industry at the same time. The hierarchy is about who controls which level of the army. Eg a FM is in control of an army and a subordinate to a FM in charge of a theater. The orders come from the FM in charge of the theater to the FM in charge of the army who then decides how he fulfills his orders. The FM in charge of the theater does not micro manage the armies of the FM in charge of the army.

The hierarchy in HoI3 is literally a system for applying passive bonuses for armies. And it's a pretty fucking complex system for such a mundane task.

>>145154509
It works in HoI3 unless you're bad, and if the AI in HoI4 was tuned to build stacks like the AI in HoI3, it'd be just as brutal there. The HoI4 AI is no better than the HoI3 AI in preserving manpower.

How do you view the casualties of a battle in HoI4? Most Paradox games have a post-battle screen popup, but HoI4 doesn't. Also, it seems possible to view total casualties in a war you're a part of, but if you merely send volunteers to a foreign war (like the Spanish Civil War), you don't get to view the war progress.

Still, is there any way to view casualties outside of war, or in individual battles? I want to be able to find out which of my battles saps my manpower the fastest, and adjust my play accordingly.

>>145155070
>OOB
>pretty fucking complex

you must be retarded

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>>145154975
Finally got my first acceptable result for the Irish too. The numbers are very close to IRL numbers.

Current game that's running though, they seem to hardly move at all. Didn't change anything in regards to that, so I guess it's just the random chances doing what they do. It isn't a problem as long as the historical outcomes remain a possibility.

>>145155053
I assume so.

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our last hope

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>>145155185
During the famine the Irish were losing people at an incredible rate. Thousands leaving per month. In the current test game the famine also happened but Dublin has 247K pops. A huge variation, but the famine seems to be the biggest factor for the population numbers and this time I think the British helped them.

>>145148885
>where is the /gsg/ mod guy
>is tehre an update released yet?

Dude, open the .mod file in a text editor and change the version number to "1.0.*"

Problem solved.

>>145155157
I find it funny that someone who confuses complexity with depth has the audacity to call others retarded. Yes, the OOB is complex but it has no depth. It does literally the same thing as assigning a leader to a stack in HoI2, Vic2, etc but in a complex way.

No, that does not mean it is hard to use or that it makes the game hard. It has no depth. Remember that.

>>145152853
Distant World mod spergs gonna sperg. They're all just mad because Stellaris is going to be the final nail in Distant worlds coffin once it gets a bit of DLC out.

Hell some of those matrix games guys probably still boycott Steam.

>>145155354
No I don't care about that, he said that he'll release 0.05 today

>yfw the first DLC will be "Women in WW2"

>>145155513
>Not Women in Holocaust

>>145155506
I thought he said Monday

>>145155513
Just assign fighters to the air zone with night only intercept mission.

>>145154694
I could see this becoming a real clusterfuck with their 'DLC cannot build on other DLC' policy.

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>>145155347
Most of the stuff regarding immigration controls are done. I only need to implement the immigration quotas restrictions and test it. I will probably make it so that the effectiveness of your closed border policy is based on your crime fighting rating. So you need to fund your administration in order to stop people from leaving.

Quotas and Closed borders will also put a bigger strain in a country's bureaucracy.

>>145155513
>Implying Johan will be making the first DLC free

Is there any real point in exercises in HoI4? The amount of exp it gives you is so fucking meager I feel I'd be better off not taking the attrition from the exercises.

>>145154975
The civil war always ends in like 1 year. Is there any way you could possibly make it longer?

>>145155463
Reminder that depth, when applied to video games, is a buzzword
It's what PR regurgitates and retards parrot it
>This game has DEEP mechanics
>Look at the DEEP story

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>>145147728
>First time playing HoI IV
>Decide to learn by playing neutral as fuck Switzerland
>Boost Democratic party popularity in Italy
>Working as intended
>Yes, goys, end your fascist ways ! Join the allies !
>Don't even have to stage a coup - it's 29 Jun, 1938, and Mussolini is already down.
>At the same time, I'm boosting party popularity in Turkey to have turkroach meat fighting for me in the great war to come

Why am I having so much fun with basically Jewish Simulator - The Game ?

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>british empire

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>>145155672
HPM, the steamgroup is posting HoI4 so that you get ignored and leave /gsg/. Don't let them win.

>>145155070
You're a fucking millennial. The high command orders the army group commander orders his army commander orders his corps commanders orders his divisional commander. These orders phases should be represented in a strategy war game because it takes time to complete commands and individual commanders have various skills.

HOI4 bypasses this strategic layering and doesn't represent any effective command and control system. You can literally mass all 300 divisions under one field marshal and issue orders to multiple fronts (other than arbitrary modifiers there's no flavor at all to the generals).

It should be more complex than HOI3. Industry should be just as simple (queue it up and let it run).

The HOI4 battle intelligence is just not present. At times there is some coherent line of defense, sometimes there is a deep penetration. Most of the time divisions are wandering back and forth while the player is assaulting through their front. Most of the time the AI lumps a corps together and it just sits still with no resistance in front of it giving the player days to reinforce his open line.

Space Invaders the GSG

>>145155506
0.05 should come out on Monday. Originally I was going to release 0.04 today, but I finished it way ahead of schedule. And yes I will put Hoxha in the next update definitely.


Here is the link the 0.04 in the meantime

http://pastebin.com/ycs3f6UA

>>145155707
It is free....as long s you buy the Field Marshall pack for HoI4. :^)

>>145155791
Ignore him. It's the same guy who's been shilling HoI4 since a few days before release. You can easily spot his posts.

>>145155772
>Why am I having so much fun with basically Jewish Simulator - The Game ?
Being a Jew is so comically evil that I imagine actual Jews have as much fun in real life as we do playing them in vidya

>>145155786
>Peopl

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE

>>145154232
B-but muh treaty ports!

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>>145155790
Why would I leave when people are posting video games? That's pretty good overall. I've seen people creating some pretty portraits for HoI4, modding and discussing the game. The thread is in its best shape in a while.
I'm not here for the attention, I just post the updates to let people that are interested in the mod or have suggestions for me to speak and know what I'm doing and to contribute to the thread. Even if no one replied to me, I would still post it, because that's contributing to the thread. So thanks but don't worry, the idea of kicking someone out with video games is ludicrous.

>>145155760
Unfortunately, that's a problem with the abstract battle system. And the CSA being usually pretty shit since they get released in a war with no soldiers against the US and all. There are several suggestions about that one anon made a long time ago, I will go through that in the future and hopefully that will make the war less of a minor annoyance for the US.

>>145155791
On the other hand in HoI 3 it was a complete ball-ache to setup, and felt like tedious make-work.

I wouldn't mind OOB in HoI4, as long as it came with a sensible UI for organizing it quickly.

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ebin

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Are support companies worth using in HOI4? MPs for sure but others?

>>145156172
recon, engineer, logistics, hospital, support artillery

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/gsg/ general changes guy here

For the next version, I finally fixed the added music so that:
>it doesn't overwrite any vanilla music but simply adds new music
>the german music only plays for Germany and the Italian music for italy


Here is the changelog for the next version so far, but I am going to add far, far more to the next version

I just got Hoi4.

How do I make countries become commies or /pol/? I want to Make America Great Again

>>145155878
>i'm not just here to funpost about HOI4
I mean it took 4 fucking years to develop and it turned out to be a cartoon. The battles in Sword of the Samurai were more exciting. I totally love the complete abstraction of naval movements. Maybe it saves on process cycles to a great extent, but wew they killed their baby and people are acting like this shit is great.

>>145156172
God yes, highly important. This Reddit thread has good info on them:

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/4n1zx5/most_optimal_division_templates/

I could copy out the relevant bits and post them here, but frankly I have a headache, have had too little sleep and simply cannot be arsed.

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>>145156243
Click here and select the minister that gives a bonus to the ideology you want to become. The support for that ideology will grow over time

>>145155791
That's what I said. And no, there is no "should" or "should not". It's either it is or is not.
In a strategy game, by definition, strategy should be represented. RPing with your command structure is not strategy. So whether it's present or not is completely irrelevant.

It's also not a command and control system. The OOB system in HoI3 simply does not function as a command and control system, it functions as a system for applying passive bonuses.
I don't know if you know what the words command and control mean, but that's not what it does. Assigning a general to some unit doesn't make him command it, it just gives passive bonuses to the units stats.

>>145156243
Look at your national focus and your options for government.

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JUST

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>>145155772
>>145155909
I should add that for some reasons, Republican Italy without Mussolini still has the Nationalists Italy focuses.

This party's gonna be fun.

>>145156129
It's simple enough as implemented in HOI2. Just needs more headquarter units representing corps/army/armygroup/front/high command with command radii and pauses while orders are issued to divisions to make it realisitic.

Then, complex battle plans several days of movement over 100km should be drawn up. Not so easy for multiplayer at 1 day per 2 seconds, but thats the kind of game that would make money.

If Command Ops had a strategic layer than it would be the best wargame/gsg ever developed. It's realistic, simplistic, and exciting to play.

>>145156118
Even with the Bonnie Blue Flag modifier the CSA routinely gets stomped. I think the problem is the mobilization impact modifier, which limits the brigades you can raise based on how much y on already have. So it doesn't matter of you can mobilize half of your population, if you have only like 6 brigades in service, you can only mobilize like 8 brigades.

>>145156585
The system would be decent if the fucking HQ units were capable of automatically chasing the army. That's the thing that completely killed the OOB system. The god damn HQs needed to be moved all the time and if you're already busy moving your tanks and infantry, it's easy to forget the HQ stack.

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>>145151230

I hope to shit that someone mods in pictures for all of the planes and ships.

>>145156394
HOI3 headquarters and general system does represent a command and control aspect to the game. HOI4 represents some gook warband where literally the generals are only applying passive bonuses.

Without the various levels of headquarters assigned in HOI3 your units are less functional. This represents a system of command and control. Lacks character/depth but at least it is something. Meanwhile HOI4 feels like one of those faggy gook war games where teh great heru leads his warband over the enemy paper walls and onto the pagoda. Absolutely no structure or strategic depth.

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wow, is HPM the one behind this event? it's really cool! he should make more like it. i've never seen this event before

>>145157238
t. prestige pro

>>145157083
In both cases they are only applying passive bonuses. You are using a "muh feelings" argument, though. And I have nothing against that. I actually think the command structure in HoI3 is really cool.

It's just fucking shit from the gameplay perspective.

>>145157238
No, Alex is not behind this event. Rob is.

>>145157327
if i was a prestige pro i would have closer to 600 prestige

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>>145156661
Mobilization can't really compensate for the artillery, organization and overall resources the US starts.

Well that and what you said,.

>>145157238
Nope, that's vanilla.

Will this laptop run HOI4 on high or ultra settings? Plz help

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QHD8T48/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=13RW4RQ46HCCQ&coliid=I18PZOJB3EQ1TA

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This is EU3 level of memery

>>145157401
Could you go through your latest test game in the 1930s and see how many capitalists the great powers have and what percentage they are? The AI always seems to have very little capitalists in my game.

>>145157489
Why...
Why would you spend that much on a laptop? You can get so much power for that price if you just build your own desktop.
Just get a fucking 3DS if you want to play vidya on planes.

>>145157536
>33/24

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How can I get fascist Australia to leave the Allies?

>>145157623
What happens when you cross the limit?

>>145157536
promote your general to a field marshal holy shit

>>145157638
Tell Eric Campbell that he has other countries to run and he should leave Australia for a while, that guy rules like half of the fascists nations in the game

>>145157370
>I actually think the command structure in HoI3 is really cool.
>It's just fucking shit from the gameplay perspective.
Don't see how I'm using a 'muh feelings' argument, but simply it is how militaries basically function and must be represented in a strategy war game. HOI4 canceled out alot of basic strategic elements and is more of an RTS game rather than a GSG.

>>145157779
does it need liquor to be a gsg?

>>145157401
sorry to bother you hpm but I missed a few threads due to some RL stuff, did you ever decide on the 'education assimilation bonuses' change?

yes of course it would but you'd probably have to plug it up to a monitor to actually read the text

>>145157678
You lead them less effectively, the general's bonuses don't apply to the army fully. I don't know the exact numbers

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>hundreds of divisions
>0 active combats

JUST END THIS FUCKING WAR ALREADY

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>>145157568
Sorry but I will need time to do that, I'm in the middle of a test game.

>>145157852
They don't seem to be causing any anomalies with assimilation, so I will roll with them.

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>>145157949
>That Mengkukuo

>>145157970
>They don't seem to be causing any anomalies with assimilation, so I will roll with them.

Cool, thanks alot

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So as Germany I completed the national focus to take the Czechs and the game tells me I control them but their land hasn't flipped to me like Austria did. Then I tried to go to war with them and made my demands but it won't let me declare war. Is there something I'm missing?

>>145157779
HoI3 is more like traditional RTS games than HoI4 is. Maybe that's exactly what you actually want?
RTS games tend to be extremely micro intensive and don't focus so much on strategy. In a lot of ways, HoI3 is more like that than HoI4.

>>145157846
Liquor and bureaucrats.

hoi4 really needs more depth, it feels too simple and easy

>>145158138
>RTS games tend to be extremely micro intensive
What
RTS games are about spamming units and sending them all to one place

Why is HPM fucking with the economy?

>>145158079
>that fucking wall
the Chinese are the greatest. Imagine hiring someone with the task "okay. So you see this piece of cardboard? If something awful happens, you need to run out there and block view of the awful shit with this"

And then hiring 5 of them.

>>145158138
>nah ah, it's the opposite of what you said neener neener neener

>>145158223
That's for macro-oriented games like RA2 or AoE2, Warcraft 3 is more micro oriented and focuses on managing one to two dozen units instead of a hundred.

>>145158138
>presence of micro automatically entails a lack of strategy

i bet you unironically think starcraft2 is better than brood war

>>145158223
have you watched professional starcraft... ever?

>>145158180
i could never get into vicky. it is rain man level autism that one needs to enjoy that fucking shit.

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>>145158138
>HoI3 is more like traditional RTS games

>>145158303
>Like RA2, AoE2, stacraft and literally all the genre-defining RTS
>but my special snowflake isn't like that and that defines the genre

Besides Warcraft is played like that too

>>145158363
Yeah, it's about APM which is basically spamming units and doing shit as fast as you can

>>145158419
ignore the shitposter folks

>>145158264
insta-shock skull fracture. i wonder if he had brain damage afterwards.

>>145158419
>Yeah, it's about APM which is basically spamming units and doing shit as fast as you can
>doing shit as fast as you can
If you need to control a lot of things, that's micro.

>>145158363
i pretty sure the HOI4 national focus tree was ripped directly from Rise of Nations and tailored for WW2.

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I reached a point I can tell if there's a big war going on by how the economy is faring.


>>145158062
No problem.

>>145158580
Rise of Nations was fun

>>145158460
>>145158264
That's all well and good but I need to know if my game is experiencing a bug or I'm just missing something. I should be able to take them right away if they're resisting.

>>145158584
>military products are expensive
>that means there's a big war going on
oh man let's all bow down to the tripfag's autism

fuck off

>>145158493
You don't need to control a lot of things. You just need to control the few things you have faster than your opponent

Archive when
?

>>145158474
i guess i'm missing something here. reddit = autismus maximus. vicky = eu rubix cube. you = faggot
think that solves it

>>145158334
ITT you pretending other people said things you want to say

>>145158387
It is, though. It's a lot more focused on micro than any other paradox game. HoI2 is all manual control and you don't micro anywhere near as much there. Never mind HoI4 where you don't need to micro much at all. Or something like Victoria 2 which is completely focused on economy.

It also enables you to divert focus from strategic aspects like research by allowing you to queue it. HoI3 definitely focuses more on micro than any pdx game which makes it more similar to a typical RTS game than anything else they got.

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Can somebody explain to me how the actual fuck are the Allies getting fucking supplies to these niggers?
I literaly blocked any fucking way in but somehow they still manage to get fucking boats by to get some supplies to them

>>145158601
definitely the best rts game ever made had 'grand strategy' elements as well risk style.

>have poland united and ready
>no special polish focus tree
why?

>>145158628
maybe you should wait for the script to fire and agree to seize sudetenland and then coup the czechs?

>>145158665
>the butthurt hpm causes
Kek

>>145158584
I realise you've probably been asked this fuckin heaps but do you have a release date, or at the very least an estimate?

Loving what you're doing so far.

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The Chinese are doing pretty well in this game.

>>145156231
thank god
i might die if i hear "TO THE GATES OF HELL, AS WE MAKE OUR WAY TO HEAVEN" one more time

>>145158819
Local supplies. Although convoy raiding seems to be really weak right now.

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>>145158971
Thanks, I'm still working with 4 days max.

>>145158960
How long does it usually take? Months?

>>145148508
What about spain Arumba?

>>145153047
At first i though he was trying to say that people who brought shit computers were complaining about it, but how do you carefully choose a shit computer, I'm so confused

>>145158770
micro management is an aspect of any good strategy game period

>>145159260
RTS game for children, yes.

>>145159132
you sad ten days yesterday, hooray! reverse delay!

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>>145158363
>Starcraft
>Micro intensive
Ahahahah

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Why does this bullshit happen every fucking game?

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>>145155807
Can you add Codreanu please?

I just noticed that the USA doesn't control Guantanamo Bay in HoI 4. gsg mod guy if you are around do you think you could work on making a new small province in Cuba?

>>145148034
My iq is unironically 80.0

First time player. How do I beat Venezuela as Brazil?
I want their oil but they field 50 or so brigades over 2 territories with massive terrain penalty.

>>145159754
Send your shitposters to them

>>145159754
Brazil is shit. Don't play as brazil

>>145159550
The german AI is incapable of defending its shores, while the allied AI loves to just throw every division it has at some beach

Are there any Map mods for Hoi4 that don't make it look like absolute shit?

It seems to me that not all nations can create their own factions in hoi4.

Any of you know how to mod the option of creating your own faction, as a country which does not have that option?

>>145159902
better terrain view and no fog of war are okay

>>145159754
You don't.

>>145159831

What should I play as in the South Americas then?

>>145159132
Is there anyway to limit immigration based on national origin/ethnicity?

>>145160035
Venezuela :^)

>>145159845
Actually, the German AI does the same thing if it gets naval superiority. In my game where I wiped out British and American fleets, literally everyone was now doing naval invasions. From Romania trying to invade British Isles to Germany trying to invade USA.

>>145152363
>St Helen
> volcanic island
>Loyal and Unshakeable
wew

>>145158665
Pls post more HOI4 goy

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How should I enrich my mainland?

Light green is Dutch, dark green is Flemish, red is Walloon, and yellow is Rhenish or Frisian, depending on location.

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So HoI4 is shit or what?

>played a lot of DH
>boot of HoI4 for the first time
>"alright time to invade Norway as Finland"
>draw up a front line against our narrow border
>draw up an offensive front line along their Oslo-based southern coast
>execute
>divisions sitting there at full organisation not moving
>some divisions even move back to the border along Sweden

Obviously I'm missing something here

Are 10Inf + Recon&Eng the best Divisions for Sovjets since you can spam that that easily? Like 60% of this type and 20% Inf with AT/20% with Arty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tHba_OtfbI
Best Track coming through

>>145160448
Maybe you'll eat my head off from stating something obvious, but; you made sure the offensive line is drawn as a line signifying how far into enemy territory you want them to go? You aren't supposed to draw the offensive line along the swedish-norwegian boarder, that would only tell them to move forward to the swedish-norwegian boarder, and no further.

>>145160035
Almost everyone else really since you're all equally shit save for mexica. I'd say Columbia is in a great position to expand upward until you hit mexico while sacking brazil that can't defend its huge land area with its puny army, a very vulnerable ecuador and a peru that doesn't pose much of a challenge. South America is easymodo

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How can I increase the manpower/population of my nation except for conscription laws and focuses? Can't I just tell them to fuck and the government will take care of kids or something?

>>145160572
I never thought I would say it, but I hope paradox makes more dlc. This period music is surprisingly good.

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>>145159132
hey HPM, more stuff for ya

That change you made to the Shan States region a while back always seemed to fuck up how britain interacted with Burma, so I looked it up. Apparently, Siam owning all or half of the Shan States is actually closer to real life. I suggest restring the Shan States region to its half-and-half status like in a few versions ago. This would also make the Brits take Rangoon like they used to. Everything would tie together much better than it currently does. Also there's this little war in the early 1850's that they had, seems pretty pointless so ignore it at your leisure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siamese%E2%80%93Vietnamese_War_(1841%E2%80%9345)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattanakosin_Kingdom

>In 1893 the French authorities in Indochina used a minor border dispute to provoke a crisis. French gunboats appeared at Bangkok, and demanded the cession of Lao territories east of the Mekong. The King appealed to the British, but the British minister told the King to settle on whatever terms he could get, and he had no choice but to comply. Britain's only gesture was an agreement with France guaranteeing the integrity of the rest of Siam. In exchange, Siam had to give up its claim to the Tai-speaking Shan region of north-eastern Burma to the British.

>The French, however, continued to pressure Siam, and in 1906–1907 they manufactured another crisis. This time Siam had to concede French control of territory on the west bank of the Mekong opposite Luang Prabang and around Champasak in southern Laos, as well as western Cambodia. The British interceded to prevent more French pressure on Siam, but their price, in 1909 was the acceptance of British sovereignty over of Kedah, Kelantan, Perlis and Terengganu under Anglo-Siamese Treaty of 1909.

>>145160794
I was really surprised when i found out its original music, and not just some old music licensed

>>145160794
You know you can mod in your own music?

>>145160730
Think about it m8, how much can you grow your population in the the short time period that the game covers?

>>145160683
Perhaps I should've posted a map

The front line was at the border. The offensive line was drawn along Norway's southern coast where Oslo is.

>20 french divisions on maginot line
>5 on italian border
>10 on dutch
>1941
>Germany still bashes the maginot line instead of walking into Paris

How do you fuck up the AI this badly? Some spots of the border arent even guarded by french so e
with a single click germans could get french to capitulate. Instead they just sit there.

Same happens with USSR border


What the fuck

>>145160730
That's called fascism

>>145160887
Sure, but like the other anon said, it's original stuff. I'd like to see more of it.

Is it even possible to play HoI4 without using the console for production?

Is it even possible to fight a war when tank production is only 4 per day and you need several thousand?

>>145160929
>the short time period
I thought HoI4 could be played after ending, I've seen people post screenshots of 1960+ games

>>145160995
>please help I am bad

>>145160420
You should leave it as is and play historically

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>>145160949
no it's not you memer

>>145161024
Ah, a policy that takes 18 years to have any effect

Really sounds worthwhile coding into the game for the 0.1% who will do this

>>145160427
Yes

>>145157743
fucking kek, the portrait diversity is fucking horrendous. In my game literally all south Americans had the same fat tan skinned leader

What's a good minor but not minor nation to play in HoI4?

>>145160995
People who cheat in neo-Paradox games are the reason there is an /r/paradoxplaza

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>>145160427
Hol3: 17k leader portraits
HoI4: 400 leader portraits

but wait, you can soon buy a DLC package to unlock new portraits for specific countries:
>Bhutanese Leader Pack
>Bolivian Leader Pack
>Dominican Leader Pack

>>145160941
Maybe the troops are not able to beat the enemy troops? I don't know what the problem might be, but then again I'm only just starting to learn the game myself.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=701076453

Did any of you guys try this mod? I actually want Axis to be somehow competent, in my last game Hitler lost to fucking Poland for fucks sake

>>145160730
Population grows during the game time, but once you run out of manpower you're fucked. The growth rate is low. Unless you play something like China which has massive pop.

>>145161056
Comparitively speaking Fascist leaderships are more inclined towards encouraging large families / mass birthrates

Plus the culture they incite (one of being proud of your nation) is more congruous to the people taking heed of this encouragement

Communism and democracy are backwards and self-indulgent and don't care about the family or any traditional values

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>>145157638
>that's meant to be eric campbell

Fuck, Paradox are just phoning it in and people still pay for this shit.

>>145161283
It's a generic portrait, half the generals in the game and lots of country leaders have the same portrait

Can the Axis AI even touch America's mainland assuming no player intervention?

>>145161256
In game it's just a matter of recruiting a bigger percentage of the pop. In the neutral tree the fascist thing is just a meme buff so that player can have fun playing a tiny country.

>>145159132
I'm really liking the constant updates the past days HPM, nice work, keep it up

>>145159132
All this shit is looking good, I'll wait until the release to start my new game

>>145161378
Yup. If they somehow manage to defeat the British and American fleets and then invade Britain. This is REALLY unlikely. I don't think it will realistically happen.

Would no-core manpower mod make the game too easy and break it?

>>145161515
Yea it would break it. Manpower is the biggest limiting factor in what you can do. If you get no-core manpower, you can just spam thousands upon thousands of infantry divs and meme arrow anything without effort. Might need to build some infrastructure tho, I guess.

>>145160941
Click your army and control-click the offensive line.

Game has a bad way of making unassigned battle plans.

>>145159554
I second this desu. He dies in 1938 though so I don't see how that's gonna be dealt with.
Also, Romania has the wrong head of state.

>>145147728
New Political effort : Gas the jews
>+10% national unity

What the fuck I tried to tell someone Hearts of Iron 4 was shit and why and they just retorted "git gud". Are /r/paradoxplaza cronies the new dork souls fangays?

>>145161712
git gud scrub