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>>137082475

>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final main site
http://megaten4f.jp/

>Information about Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjfH
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For Belial and Alice.
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>>137455580
Posting threads in mobile is hell.

I don't know if you are lazy or just whitefags jerking off to page 10, but you're all faggots.
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>>137455580
>Smt IV
>Fighting King Kenji
>He starts spamming that move whose name I've forgotten but it poisons you, stuns/puts you to sleep, and makes you sick
>My party starts slowly dying while I could do nothing but watch
>Walter does plenty of damage while I am getting assraped by Mr Kenji
>Eventually only me and my healing demon is left
>Eventually I finally get a chance to fight back
>YES
>Bead chain
>Sleep wore off on my healing demon
>Posmudi on herself
>Eventually it just devolves into keeping each other alive
>Walter singlehandedly brings Kenji down

wew
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Dang, those Fiend Drops in the extra dungeon for IV Final.

David: Stradivari
Matador: Aiki Staff
White Rider: Fantasista
Red Rider: Chaos Sword
Black Rider: Constraint Scale
Pale Rider: Reaping Blade
Trumpeter: Angel Trumpet
Mother Harlot: Babylon Ring
En-no-Ozuno: Monastic Juzu
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If you were a demon, which one would you be?

I'd be the Mad Gasser
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>>137457730
Slime
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>>137457730
Preta
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Hoy.
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>>137458124
>>137457828
anyone who doesn't say this thinks too highly of themselves
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>>137457730
Highway Star
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>>137457314

Is the encounter the same lolrandom shit in SMT4? I would prefer anything than rolling until I see a skeleton
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>>137465557
No, they all spawn in a special dungeon.
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Reminder.
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>>137465656

Cool. It is not a dlc, right?
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Morning /smtg/. Up for some quick cofhee and BONDS before work?
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>>137466640

>drinking coffee and getting yourself put in a jail after being framed
>purseowner

No thanks.
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>>137466881
Good. I didn't make enough for two anyway!
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>>137465740
One of the fiends is.
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Hoy.
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Doesn't it feel weird when they take random demon from one game and make him important in another without changing art?
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>>137471309
Kudlak being a boss felt weird.
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The Fiend equipment effects.

Weapons
Matador: Aiki Staff - blunt weapon power:517 1 hit target all/with confuse effect +50 St +50 Ag +50 Lk (does not have low accuracy)

Red Rider: Chaos Sword - sword power:985 1 hit single target +90 St

Pale Rider: Reaping Blade - knife power:280 1-3 hits single target/with instant death effect +60 St

Guns
David: Stradivari - power:660 1 hit single target +90 Dx

Trumpeter: Angel Trumpet - power:96 1-9 hits multiple targets +60 Dx

Accessories
White Rider: Fantasista - Resist Fire/Ice/Elec/Force, Victory cry effect +273 MP

Black Rider: Constraint Scale - Null Phys/Gun, Critical rate up +273 MP

Mother Harlot: Babylon Ring - Null Ailment, Enduring Soul effect +273 MP

En-no-Ozuno: Monastic Juzu - Gigapleroma effect to all elements +273 MP
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Hope we get normal humans as protags once more.

Protags being able to use magic or demon skills ain't appealing.

Plus, it makes swords and guns useless.
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I want to toy with meme magic.
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>>137456510
Dunno what you know about IV lore, but Walter killing Kenji is rather fitting.
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>>137474056
Don't.
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>>137457730
Mothman
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>>137472234
>Those effects
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I love that it's now possible to Street Pass over the internet. Pretty sure I could never get an SMT Street Pass the normal way since I live in yurop and I'm only very rarely in bigger cities. It's really nice to see some Jap lawfags etc. and how they fused their demons.
Since there are at least a few people more who have played/are playing IVF here, I'd like you to ask to post your cards. I'd be interested in how my fellow SMTG fags are playing the game.
Here's mine.

>>137437478
Hal:
>Ooh, cool! It suits you, Leader!
Gayston:
>nuguu... I admit, that's a splendid design
Slimer:
>gunuu... If I were only alive!
He wants the N
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>>137475109
smtiv final won't be localised.
And Gideon or aeon Genesis will take over fan translation.
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>>137475976
SMT IV Final will be localized and it'll have dual audio.
Gideon and Aeon Genesis will never take over fan translation.
My meme magic powers are far superior to yours, you'll see you pathetic mortal.
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>>137475328
I've been wanting to play FINAL for a while but not being able to speak Japanese has been preventing me from doing so.
How do you play the game without understanding jack shit?
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>>137475976
This is not meme magic. Meme magic it's when you throw random unlikely idea and it turns out to be true or you wish for something but it gets hit buy monkey's paw.
Example: I wanted Atlus to reference the opera commercial in #FE.
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>>137476370
>This is not meme magic
This is autism.
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>>137476416
Trying to invoke push a meme so hard it comes true is autism, period.
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>>137476370
You forgot pure coincidental factors to a meme and event.
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>>137476317
I don't know if that'd be fun but I think knowing kana and having played IV might be enough to get you through.
You most likely wouldn't understand much storywise though.
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>>137476825
I can't read kana.

Well, looks like it's back to waiting.
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>>137477105
Dude, learning kana is really easy and shouldn't take you long at all.
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>>137477105
It takes like 6 hours to learn them. Just got to realkana and grind.
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>>137457730
Incubus.
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>>137475328
Our cards are so similar.... I'll keep an eye out for yours.

I really like the dialouge that demons have for you when they return from Streetpass. My Mermaid brought me souvenirs from Okinawa.
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It's the demon apocalypse.

Some faggot named Stephen gave you the demon summoning program and you downloaded it on your current browsing device.

What do you do now?
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>>137478807
Get killed by a Pixie because I'm a fucking loser.
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>>137478807
Find a knife and a gun.

Try to survive.
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>>137478807
Die.
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>>137478807
Go get my Demon Apocalypse Emergency Box.
I hope all you fuckers have one of these in your house.
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>>137478905
>He doesn't have a katana

You'll get killed by a preta.
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>>137479308
I hate swords.

Japanese swords even more so.

Gunslinger or cash my chips out the hard way.
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>>137457730
Apsaras
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>>137479576
Buy some charm bullets and the odds will be significantly in your favor.
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>>137478758
Wow, you're right. Good taste too, I wanted either 雪女郎 or Mermaid as my Chaos demon.
Have you imported an SMTIV save data, if you have one? Because I'm not sure what the Aquila statue means but I'm guessing an imported save file.

Yeah the dialogue in general is pretty good in IV and Final. I love the reunions with Alice when she got lost.
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>>137472234
>angel trumpet: 1-9 hits
I wonder if it works like guns did in SJ and it's possible to actually hit one target 9 times if you're only fighting one thing?
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>>137480556
Didn't multihit spells work that way in IV?
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>>137480401
Mermaid has dethroned Kikuri-hime as my favorite demon, she's really cute. My favorite is when demons will give you items during Talk and then tell you to keep it a secret from Dagda.

I played SMTIV in English, so unfortunately I didn't have save data to import. I figured the Aquila statue was for clearing all the routes.
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>>137480401

>extra dialogue for lost demons

Did they buff that up in SMT4F? I remember it being mundane compared to KR2 in SMT4.
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>>137480701
I think so? Been a while since I last played IV.
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For those wondering how EP: PSP and Devil Summoner PSP translations are coming along.

Info on the MT2 translation is in the OP
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Anyone have any tips on getting Hama Pierce for White Rider?
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>>137480969
Not that I know, should be the same like IV except for new demons maybe.
What's KR2?

SH has still the best demon negotiation in my opinion.
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>>137481387

Kuzunoha Raidou 2. You have demons like Moh Shuvuu going all tsundere when you found them ("I-it's not like I am lonely! B-baka!")

Then those interactions when you have Lucifer active while encountering any Divine demons.
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>>137481767
I see. I really need to play the Kuzunoha games. Those are one of the few I'm missing.
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>>137478807
>this will never happen
[amphibian filled with sorrow meme]
I'd go law fag in an instant and reign supreme after genociding the middle east and turning it into one big farm for the UK and America
I'd also make Europe great again
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>>137477395
>>137477421
I have no clue on where to learn kana. Do I just google it?
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>>137481901

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18a88MgCOwc
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>>137482269
>implying Europe was ever great
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>>137480775
Have you bought the Mephisto DLC?
If so, I'm jelly since he has 呪殺貫通, just got a card from a guy with an Alice that has it too.
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>>137482528
>what is the reinassance
>what is founding civilization
>what is being the forefront of classic art
>what is being the foundation to all meaningful culture
shiggity diggity do
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>>137482369
Yes. Just google Katanaka and Hiragana and memorize that shit. It's really easy and you get to at least read menu options and some skills.

By the way, a quick lesson: katakana is used to write english words, like let's say, Flame = フレイム , all in Katakana and not hiragana which is used to write actual Japanese like いいえ (no).
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>>137482807
>katakana is used to write english words
Generally. Also not english only.
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>>137482619
>what is a shitty religious domination during almost 10 centuries
>what is the black plague
>what is dictatorship
>what is the origin of two world wars
>what is the current false political union
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>>137482924
Good call. I used english as an example only though.
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>>137482976
Did you miss the bit about me making it great AGAIN.
Aka implying it's a shithole now.
Aka you're a darkie from some disgusting country who's salty he'll never amount to anything due to being born a failure in a disgusting country
>>what is a shitty religious domination during almost 10 centuries
Yeah god I fucking hate how christianity inspired so many great works of art
>what is the black plague
>what is dictatorship
You mean like zyka and all the other dictators that probs rule your sand hut?
>what is the origin of two world wars
You mad because even though we were in two world wars we're still achieving more than your entire continent? (I'm implying you live in africa or south america because you're braindead)
>what is the current false political union
EU is fucked but so is every other goverment in the world right now
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>>137478807
Get a new battery for my laptop.
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>>137456043
What about Nebiros?
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>>137483390
I'm from Europe too, though. Look, we all know Europe did some good shit sometimes, but overall it's a shithole all around, nowadays and even most of the past centuries.

>EU is fucked but so is every other goverment in the world right now
While this is true, the problem is that Europe thinks they matter at all in the grand scheme of things. We don't. Not like we are now anyway. But our beloved presidents are too proud and stubborn to do any real needed reforms and shit.
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>>137483390
>>137483742
Fuck off back to /pol/ I don't want this shit here.
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>>137482557
Yeah, I've bought most of the DLC.
And wow, thank you for pointing out that skill, I must've managed to overlook it when I fused him.
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>>137483813
Who cares what you want dickhead
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>>137483813
Sorry about the politics, anon. Have a Jack Frost as an apology.
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>>137482369
Like I said, realkana is a good place.
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Is this the best sub for the OVA?

http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=29397
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>>137483473
Nebiros is kicking my ass in MT2. I don't feel like giving him any favors.
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>>137485263
Which one?
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>>137486819
the 1987 one
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Anons, is it true that Final is lacking in terms of decent side quests?
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>>137486895
The one I watched had them calling Loki "Rocky" so just test it and if there's one without that, use it.
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>>137481310
No one?
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>>137485263
Yes, but you should probably either use the direct download from the link bin or torrent from bakabt instead.
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In case you didn't know, this got updated recently?
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Shin-Megami-Tensei-IV-Demonic-Gene
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>>137456510
Isn't that suicide, sort of?
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>>137493514
They're technically different people so nah.
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So, you guys like mecha?
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Guys?
Wake up it's only 7pm
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>>137500117

Let me sleep please
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>>137500117
Let me sleep please.
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>>137457730
Any demon that spams Mudo, poison or curse spells
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>>137479576
>tfw no FNV x SMT
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>>137500117
What are you talking about it's like 2 pm here
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>>137503417
Live in a land of no releases and no face sitting.
>>137503181
>no one modded a demonica in
>or conversation options with fauna enemies
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Which is your favorite SFC game?
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I need a new SMT MMO. Maybe now that IMAGINE is dead, they'll make a new one. FFXIV isn't doing it for me.
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>>137507719
Rudra no Hihou. SMT I would be my second favorite one.
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>>137505597
>you will never persuade or pay a deathclaw to join you
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Threadly reminder that Garu is a meme Zan.
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>>137512734
What's the point of Garu?
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>>137513416
To be a meme Zan.
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>>137481901
>>137482396
Does Raidou 2 have best demon bants?
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>>137505597
>Live in a land of no releases and no face sitting.
This is why law is worst path
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>>137513416
They were supposed to be differentiated. Garu is "Wind" while Zan was supposed to be "Force" but it seems that they just became one thing.
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>>137517428
Thing is, doesn't Garu use basically the same animations as Zan? It's pretty confusing why there's two for the same element.
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What do the moon runes say?
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>>137521780
>unnamed Hoys
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>skills

BEHOLD

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Megami_Ibunroku_Persona_Skills
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>>137524879
You have two parties but they can't affect each other. Also have different items.
Congratulations for coming that far without knowing the runes.
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I was thinking of doing a no demon whisper Master Mode run for Neutral, has anyone else ever done it and how was it?
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Just finishing Raidou 1.
So, uh... All the villain wanted was to prevent SMT1+2 from happening, isn't it? So everything that happened made sure that everyhing is fucked. Kinda dark for one of the sillier looking SMT games.
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>>137524898
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>>137524898
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>>137532061
>>137532130
DELETE THIS
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>>137532948
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>>137532948
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What will happen if my demon has a negative スキル適正 on status modifying spells? Does it make my demon suck at spamming luster candy?
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>>137533202
Increased MP cost on those skills. So yeah.
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>suffering gives me a boner recently die to SMT
Playing smt1+2 and final will be awkward.

Most of the MC scenes in one will be unbearable, and the other has constant bullying of a partner.
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>>137533008
>>137533058

>>137533202
Higher MP cost I think.
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>>137533343
>>137533618
Oh well, that's fine. I'm at my last battle and I've got a shit load of chakra pots. Thanks anon-kuns.
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>>137491827
Nice.
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>Playing IV
>Keep wishing I was playing Final instead
End my suffering Atlus, please
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>>137535392
You need to accept that Dagda-sama is/was right. You need to cut yourself off from others. Stop depending on them (above all FatlusUSA) and learn how to read moon.
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WHEN THE THOUSAND YEARS HAVE EXPIRED
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>>137537897

Persona 5 will be released
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>>137538316
SMT IV Final will be localized.
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>>137528927
And on to Raidou 2.
Wow. The combat isn't completely retarded this time! AND they made magnetite relevant.
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Hoy.
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The comfort of death will come for men, demons and threads alike... by the guidance of the Great Will.
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>>137542816
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>>137538380
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Hi
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What stats are my points best dumped into in Raidou 1?
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>>137475328
No homo, but Nanashi looks very cool like a killer maid.
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>>137478807
Become a demon hunter, take bounties, chill with other hunter bros at bars, and eventually die horribly from a mid-level boss.
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Why is anarchy called anarchy if you become the new god? What's even anarchy about it?
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>>137481140
Hype
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Am I the only one here who doesn't care for Nanashi's maid outfit?
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>>137552718
Not really, but I commented on it because it is the first time that I have seen it in non-shit quality.
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>recommended reading

>This page is no longer available. It has either expired, been removed by its creator, or removed by one of the Pastebin staff.
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>>137455580
SMT IVF info on release date for USA fucking when?
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>>137554226
Don't know what happened.
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf
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>>137552718
No
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>>137554492
NEVER
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>>137473169
that is a neat picture

only interesting thing in this thread, unfortunately
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>>137555192
Can you add the book that /lit/ anon posted about last thread?
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ESTOMA SWORD
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>>137560838
Riberomadyne.
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Anyone know the title id for Final?
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Hoy.
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What is the Special Fusion that makes the least sense?
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>>137557898
Marriage Between Heaven and Hell by William Blake was the book, if anyone was wondering.

Also, I'm really digging MT2 right now. Was not expecting that but it's a massive improvement over MT1.
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>>137569268
Quite a few of the SMT IV ones, but I'm too lazy to break it out right now for specifics.
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>>137568776
>>137569730
Wrong reply. Whoops.
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why does this thread exist
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>>137575317

Why does anything exist
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If I begged Atlus to let Lilith be the main heroine in the next mainline game do you think they would listen?
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Hoy.
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>>137580265
Probably not.
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enduring soul
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>>137586158
Mudodyne.
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>>137588691
Recarmdra
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Anyone have the cia for final's dlc?
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>>137590314
>not recarmdradyne
You can't reverse superdeath with a regular revival skill.
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Mudoon.
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>>137476241
>SMT IV Final will be localized and it'll have dual audio.
ok kiddo
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>>137593183
Don't call me a kiddo, pal.
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>>137593245
Don't call me a pal, buddy
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>>137593281
Don't call me a buddy, bro.
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>>137590374
https://mega.nz/#!Q1wgBCwa!D2VBnb4J35PlzQKa21wRX-9c2TDSTpY9lkBeV5PoK50

There you go
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>>137594698
Not him, but thanks anon.
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>>137594698
Thanks anon.
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>>137594698
What's the decryption key?
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>>137596348
Actually nevermind.
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Has anything past Chapter 9 in the Demonic Gene Manga been translated?
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>>137551102
World of Strength
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It's my weekend /smtg/. What should I play?

http://strawpoll.me/7278602
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In SMTIV the manual says that Str affect phys attack and phys/gun skills. While Dex affects Gun attack and phys/gun skills. Why is it preferable to go Dex > Str?
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>>137608546
In IV you can literally put all your points into luck and auto battle the game
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>>137608546
because it scales better. the only thing str is better for is auto attacking I think
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>>137608623
>>137608631
I see, I am currently going 2 Dex, 2 Luk, 1 Ag. Really no reason to put a few in Str then?
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>>137609074
It's not like IV is hard so if you wanna mess around a bit and see if you can tell the differences go on ahead mate
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>>137609074
Dexterity gives more to physical/gun skills than Strength does. You could put all your points into Strength and Dexterity and hit like a fucking truck if you want though.
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Since Atlus are supporting PSVR, are we getting this for real?
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>>137611716
I sure hope so. That's my dream.
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>>137612481
Flynn with a handgun is triggering me and I don't know why
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Seriously. Did the anon modding Doom is gonna spite us like that, or did he just left and one of you guys falseflagged as him? >>137093697
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when is the second coming of christ?
looking forward to not being chosen so I can stay here amongst other sinners and become a demon hunter
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>>137617116
God hates you so much that he will surely force you into heaven so that you can't enjoy yourself.
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I am playing SMT1.

I killed King Yama and the game changed my alignment to Law. I really don't want this. How do I go back to neutral at this point?

Also I thought it was pretty amusing that you can break out of prison and then break into the courtroom and kill the judge that put you in prison. That is just great. But I don't want law
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>>137617613
Tokyo Destiny Land has a minigame that lets you change your alignment.
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>>137614558
He couldn't do it because sprites from game were not good for the WAD(something about size)

I Remember when he was talking about it.
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>>137617613
You can change it back later in T.D.L.
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>>137618879
Ah, yeah. I still need to go there. Hopefully I can go back to saying "fuk u" to both law and chaos
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>>137555192
That reading list is woefully underdeveloped. All it is is obvious religious texts anyone would be able to google.
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>>137555192
why is Cuchulain and Paradise Lost considered bonus? The list still seems in progress, not finished.
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>>137555192
What about No Longer Human and The Dancing Girl. SMT IV directly states those titles

Why are those not listed?
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>>137619019
As a /lit/ enthusiast I could add a book or two to the list while giving a small explanation; but I have the hunch that no one really cares for that pastebin.
Maybe I'll do it anyways.

>>137619164
I think there was a better version, but I only reposted the first one I found.
I'm gonna be busy right now, but anyone can hit the archives to check it.
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>>137619425
Maybe there's a bit interest after all.

I really like to look up lore of the demons in SMT, so I'll check out those books and expand the bin.
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>>137609121
Yeah, the game isn't hard but I don't want to deviate from the setup I have.

>>137610936
I see, I am just going to keep dumping into Dex. Want to be that gunslinger.
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ru roh
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>Open facebook for the first time in months
>first thing I see is a pepe yu-gi-oh card translated into my language
>still no IVF localization
>out of job again so I'm a NEET again
>became aware of the fact that the reason why I hate social interactions is because I have nothing relevant/interesting to talk about

Yeah, sorry for the blog /smtg/ but I think I'm ready.
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>>137628896
>pepe yu-gi-oh card translated into my language
Post it faggot.
The White were right.
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>>137628896
Faggot.
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>>137628896
>Having a facebook
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>>137629517
He deleted it, strangely enough. He apparently also posted a death note pepe edit earlier this month.

>>137629539
Thanks

>>137629627
Just kill me now
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Beelzebub saves /smtg/ from page 10!
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>>137632008
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BOO
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>>137619458
I care, senpai.
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>>137639219
Boo
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Ring of Gaea did nothing wrong.
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>>137644460
Tell that to the broke people in Ginza
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>>137612661
Because to the common folk, samurai and guns don't mix well. Oda Nobunanga used it at his advantage in some battles
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>>137648060
Call me a weeb, but Nagashino is one of my favorite historical battles.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGrruEsrACs

I like it.
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Is there no IV FINAL wallpaper like this yet?
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>>137648875
Nice.

>>137650270
>>>/diy/
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Someone is working on it. I guess.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/wip-shin-megami-tensai-iv-final-english-translation.420566/
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>>137650713
That's more than what Atlus has given us.

I just fucked up hacking my 3ds, and now just have a fully updated 2ds.
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>>137650713
>Atlus USA has teased it a few times
What the fuck is that guy talking about?
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>>137650270
There is no good clean image of the game's logo and the Key Artwork.
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>>137650974
>Talking out of his ass.
It is like you've never been on the internet before.
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>>137652079
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Anyone know where the hell I should be going in final? I just watched Shesha break the ceiling and met Steven. The goal map says Government Office Bldg but I can't access it from the park.
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>>137652583
Of course. The lies we spread fuel the internet, which will be used to summon countless demons through the negativity here.
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>>137653669
>That image.
What the fuck?
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>>137653669
Can't wait.

This world needs more Freedom.
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>>137653852
What do you expect from Nips. There's actually incestfags that ship Hallelujah with his dad.
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>>137653852
Expect no less from a faggot brony I suppose. Low quality and cancerous art to go with every post.
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In MT2, if you side with the heroine do you lose the male friend forever, and vice versa?
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>>137654993
Actually I was surprised when a different artist made the pony pic of Dagda. Especially as i already saw the actual Horse Dagda they made before it and nips seem to really love Dagda, to the point of pairing Nanashi with him.

And I save all the Final art I typically find. I don't even like MLP.

The best pic though is the one they drew of Dagda being stabbed in his luck of the Irish heart by Gungnir.
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>>137656217
Sure thing, horsefucker.
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>>137656323
Whatever you want to believe anon.
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Hoy.
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>>137650713
Godspeed.

In one side, I hope his work doesn't end up done for nothing, but in the other, I have so little faith in Atlus USA that I can't help but root for this guy.
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>>137648875
Pretty good, the video is also damn cool.

Stuff like this makes me feel glad that I'm into the megaten series.
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Does /smtg/ like the Demi-Fiend?
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>>137664553
lmao no
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>>137664926
He's a dork, but I like him.
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I just started SMT II, and really enjoying it, but I'm having an issue with my alignment.

I said no when I was asked to name the characters without knowing that moved me towards law, and now i'm worried that i might be stuck. Does this game have events like the tokyo destiny land minigame from the first one?

Also does anyone know when the alignment lock is?
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>>137653852
Nanashi sided with the Polytheists, and as a reward for betraying Dagda, Krishna allowed Nanashi to have all of his friends as a megami. Miroku was the preacher while Odin acted as the best man and Inanna was the bridesmaid
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>>137668210
No but late in the game you'll literally get to pick who you want to side with and lock in on a la Nocturne unless you're ridiculously far leaning toward one end. I don't want to spoil anything.
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Fuck you Leatherman
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>>137478758
>>137475328
>tfw cant read kanji

h-hopefully atlus doesn't remove any content from the english version
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>>137671867
Can't remove something they never get the chance to localize.
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>>137671867
fan translation will be probably continue if they announce a gimped localization
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>>137672097
>implying that they would not localize a game whos prequel sold slightly better in the US
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Are you guys looking forward to the Raidou movie?
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>>137674434
You know it. Meme magic saves the day once more.
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>>137675489
That's not even a meme.
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>>137674434
>No Raidou 3
>No game adaptation of Lone Marebito
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>>137675815
Okay, Tatsuya.
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>>137675489
I'd rather use that meme power to get a Persona 2 movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPIo5k2Zqu8
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>>137677192
I'd rather use that meme power to get more cards. Where did all those people who played Final go?
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>>137655010
You can't progress unless you side with the heroine.
In the original Famicom version, if you refuse to side with her, she insta-kill you and your whole party.
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>>137677871
That's how a heroine of this series should be.
Reminds me of that bitch Nozomi.
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>>137668210
You can change your alignment later on, but you can't equip some great Neutral-only weapons, like Cat o"Nine Tails from the casino in the beginning of the game.
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>>137677192
Good point, and sadly more likely.
>>137677871
Yeah, I found that out later on when I realized she had to give that old guy a massage to get a seal.
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>>137677852
You mean those TCG cards? They aren't out yet.
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>>137670813
>unless you're ridiculously far leaning toward one end

Is this for real? I kill blindly, so I got to pick.
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Die for me?
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Alright, time to play SMT I.
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>>137456043
Where are their doujins?
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Sure is slow here.
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>>137685035
i wonder what yhvh is up to
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Why didn't you tell me this existed?

Where can I find it?
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This image confirms the eyesocket theory.
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>still no cover for Final artbook
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>>137685035
Slow /smtg/, is the best /smtg/ though. Comfy as fuck. Are you guys the same since the last slow season here?
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Anyone wanna share some SMT wallpapers? I only have a couple of them.
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>>137698928
Something looks off about Yuzu's breasts.
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>>137699012
Just like in Yasuda's art!
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>>137699060
That makes it official art.
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>>137686221
Now I'm interested.
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I haven't been here for a year yet.
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https://de.scribd.com/doc/179041910/The-Utopia-of-Apocalypse
>A masters thesis on SMT
> Figure 1: Nakajima overlooking the sexual intercourse between his teacher Ohara in the physical world and the demon Loki in the virtual world ( Nishikubo, 2001).
Pic related.
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>>137686221
It's on Pixiv.
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>>137703359
But that's exacty what happens in the ova.
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>>137703874
I still wonder how the fuck does that work
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>>137704029
We'll find out when VR becomes common place.
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So, is Luck completely useless in SMT I? I shouldn't bother and waste points on it right?
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>>137703874
Yes, the thesis mentions a synopsis of Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei. (which I assume the OVA is based on)
I still share the opinion of >>137704029, however.

The thesis itself is actually surpisingly interesting and even readable due to the interleaving of SMT description and (sometimes rather dry) philosofical reasoning.
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what do you think of the one tumblr smt guy and his posts
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>>137703359
Does anyone have the pdf file for this in a downloadable link? I would't mind reading it since it actually sounds interesting enough.
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>>137705320
After a few hoops, I've been able to produce a pdf. I've uploaded it here:
https://mega.nz/#!GoJRiTYR!lqnqdILlPbUnCUgk1XNBSDn9x5clK3NK5C5X5Pxyy6s

I'd recommend it (even though I haven't finished it), it offers an interesting view on the narrative and theme explored in SMT and Strange Journey in particular (this obviously means spoilers, but since we're at /smtg/, this should be expected)
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>>137707417
Ñot him but thank you anon.
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>>137708672
>Ñot
Supereñe demon when
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>>137708827
I blame my keyboard. I'm not even mexican/spanish.
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>>137697039
We've got some new people who joined after Final leaked, for better or worse. The difference in IP count in threads then versus threads now should make that apparent.
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Anyone have a map of YHVHSpace? I've been dicking around for a while and getting nowhere.
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Is it a common problem for SMT1 to have crackling sound on emulators?
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>>>/a/139633896
/smtg/ pls
Ask here next time. Also >>>/a/139634070 has a point. I wonder how you could even come that far with self-confidence like that.
You need to believe in yourself, friend, stop asking obvious shit.
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>>137711125
i'm a new one but i prefer the comfiness of the slow /smtg/
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>>137718505
Please respond
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>>137711125
I'm convinced that there are a lot players of new games who only go to their respective generals when a new game came out to spoiler the shit out of everyone and feel good because they are able to play the games, while 真 fans of those series aren't. Then they leave because they don't really care enough to stay forever. Fucking disgusting assholes.
I don't have any evidence but I don't need it. I'm Anonymous.

>>137719493
I don't know, I'm sorry.
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>>137718505
Not really? Which emulator are you using?
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>>137719828
I tried it on SNES9X and Higan, and they both had crackling. I also tried it on my N3DS, and it's still crackling. Is it just supposed to sound like this?
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>>137720043
I've been playing SMT I on Snes9x and it sounds fine to me. I guess it's supposed to sound like that, you should consider getting better ears anyway.
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>>137720043

Try it on ZSNES

THE KING OF EMULATORS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq7_6R_cvgw
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>>137720298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Octf1iRmS0E
Like, you can hear those popping sounds in the dream sequence right? Is that really supposed to be there?
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>>137720584
>Is that really supposed to be there?
Not really. Where did you download the game?
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>>137720684
Maybe you should tell me where you got yours instead, so I could try it.
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>>137720765
Tips and tricks pastebin.
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>>137720990
It's crackling. I don't even know man
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Should i play the iOS or the SNES version of SMT1? Do they have any noteworthy changes?
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>>137721334
Play the iOS version if you can. It has some nice stuff like Visionary Items that let you see certain scenes not in the original.
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>>137653669
Only those with demonic power have noses
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GAS THE MESSIANS ALIGNMENT WAR NOW
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These fucks were easier than a Virtue + Power random encounter.
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>>137724021
Yeah, it was a little underwhelming.
>>137697039
Yeah, I've been here a while now I guess but I'm no vet yet.
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>>137707417
Sorry for the late reply, but thanks a ton, man. Scribd is a bitch to work around.
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>>137720307
I vastly prefer ZSNES to Snes9x but ZSNES doesn't emulate SMT I correctly in some parts.
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>auto battle YHVH
>gain 5 levels
The dungeons are the real bosses in this game.
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we're working on it too.
#yourfriendlyneighbourhoodnamefag
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progress...
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>>137726873
Dozo aligator
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>>137669630
Then he betrayed them at the last minute and removed all the gods.

Only Ghost Butts and Devil Children and Fairy Queens as the only supernatural in his new world.
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k im done advertising myself kthx bye
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>>137727251
Looking forward to it.
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>>137726873
>>137727061
>>137727251
May Lucifer guide your way, anon. Good job.
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I guess this is important too
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>>137728420
Is this perhaps a rare hoy?
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>>137729617
I have over 50 Hoys, anon. No Hoy is rare for me.
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>>137729714
All named, by the way. Unlike some filthy ones that frequent this general and refuse to name their valuable Hoys.
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>>137729871
>Unlike some filthy ones that frequent this general and refuse to name their valuable Hoys
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>>137730105
I do joke about my Hoys, anon.
Thanks for the new hoy by the way. And I really need to read that Walter manga.
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>>137729871
I have something like 200 hoys. You can't make me name them all.
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>>137730958
post them all
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>>137730863
*do not joke, I mean.

>>137730958
Casual. Name them all and be a true Hoyposter.
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>>137730863
I sometimes spread the hoys to other generals and boards.
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So in Raidou 1, there was a woman who asked me if I saw an accident while I was on my way to Ryugu in Ginza. She had her own portrait thing that the other major characters have while they're talking. I chose the 'Accident?' option because I had no idea what she was talking about. She said something about the accident and walked away. Is there a side quest tied to her? Should I have said yes? Will I see her again (and get to choose 'Yes')? Is she even relevant, or should I stop overthinking it?

This is early in Episode 2. I can't get this out of my head. If she has something like a quest tied to her I'll redo my progress up to that point.
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>>137731173
I do the same, anon. Most of the time it's well received, even by anons that know squat about SMT or even games in general.
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>>137731047
If I post them all they won't be rare anymore.
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>>137731420
Nice.
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>>137731493
This anon has a point.

>>137731656
The fuck, man. I have the exact same Hoy with the same namefile.
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>>137731765
I copy the names.

nuthin' personnel
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>>137731180
I'd help you but Raidou 1 is still in my backlog.

>>137731765
Doesn't everyone just download images with filenames in tact?
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>>137729714
>>137729871
>>137730863
>>137730958
>>137730105
>>137731173
>>137731493
>>137731656
>>137731765
All saved. Have a hoy i just created in Photoshop
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>>137731980
Then you're copying a lot of namefiles from me. Remember to credit anon for the filenames.

>>137732109
>Doesn't everyone just download images with filenames in tact?
No? I made some fresh Hoys once and most of time I get hoys from other anons and give them a filename myself. I sometime copy filenames though.
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>>137732369
Already have it.
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>>137732369
>Implying I haven't saved that already

>>137732443
I mean for fresh hoys of course you're going to name them. But downloading and keeping the filename messes with those autists who like to go around tracking people in the archives based on filenames.
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>>137732369
I already have it, anon. The effort is appreciated though.

>>137732658
True that. guess I'll start copying the filenames.
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>>137732483
>>137732658
>>137732746
Christ
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I have a confession to make. I made this hoy. And I regret it.
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>>137732801
I wonder.

Should have some Jonnys too?
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>>137732941
Terrible. Delete your entire fhoylder.
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>>137733061
Anything but that.
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>>137732941
Doesn't matter.

I save all hoys.
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>>137732941
You mind if i perfect that hoy for you?
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>>137732801
>>137732958
I've made a couple, but they're not as good as hoys if you ask me.
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>>137733192
Have another one.

>>137733228
By all means, anon. Go right ahead. I'm not the most efficient user of photoshop.
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>>137732941
Then I will confess something as well. I post that hoy sometimes. :^)
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i swear im done after this, pls dont lose ur shit... If anyone is interested here are some gui translations
http://imgur.com/a/8mqRO
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>>137733412
Thanks.
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>>137733492
Where do you post it though? I never saw it posted besides the times I posted it myself.

>>137733228
I also made this one. Feel free to actually do something with it.
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>>137731180
Can't help you, but gamefaqs might have an answer in a walkthrough.
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>>137733705
The original, in case someone wants to check it out.
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>>137733705
Here, I think I've posted it like 3 times since I saved it. Usually in response to "bad meme" posts.
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>>137733595
>My hair is a bit different
>not My hoys
>thumbnail
Stop.
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>>137733595
Have the original one.
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>>137733986
Guess I missed it then.
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>>137733412
I tried.
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Since we're posting hoys, anyone have that glitch-looking hoy? It's almost hard to tell that it's actually one. I used to have it but lost it over the summer and now that I've rebuilt my collection it's the single one I can't seem to find.

If only foolz or archive.moe still worked.
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>>137734880
Nice work with the face, but I admit I prefer the Tokyo background. Nice job regardless.

>>137735003
That's a vague description. I'll post some that may be that one.
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>>137733338
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>>137735198
I even looked around in my secondary fhoylder and only found this one that may be the one you're looking for.
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>>137735198
Sorry the best I can say is I think it was mostly pink or green with a lot of distortion, not unlike artifacting. I've seen a golden face edit that looks like it but didn't have the foresight to save it.
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I feel like the only failure as a human on this general that doesn't have a Hoy folder.
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>>137733705
Still nothing anon? I remember the day you edited out the dialogue.
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>mfw I have the original hoy folder
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>>137735489
Damn. Looks like I don't have that one. Hope some other hoyposter can help you.

>>137735584
Failure_as_a_human.jpg

>>137735646
Yeah, nothing. I didn't get a clear idea of what to put in the textbox. I asked around here but no one really helped back then, so i kinda just left it as is.
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>>137735256
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>>137735928
I remember it clearly as it was one of the first days I was around and it was I who posted the original one I think. Glad to see you still edit stuff. Keep them coming anon(s)
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>>137697039
Still here.
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>>137736096
I actually did that one too. I usually do OC hoys whenever inspirations strikes, though.
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>>137736212
We're here forever.
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>>137736290
I actually left for 2 years, but came back right before Final's announcement, which pretty much hooked me here.
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>>137735198
That can be fixed.
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>>137703517
Thanks, I will try to search it.
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>>137736290
True. I browse /smtg/ for maybe around 4 years now? Even longer if you count lurking.
You guys are all awesome.

>>137736468
Excellent. Thanks anon.
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>>137736462
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
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>>137704693
Do you mean this artist?

Artists are fine, but guys who only have hot opinions to make them stand out are not worth aknowledging.
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>>137732109
>>137733840

Thanks, I never thought to check game walkthroughs. I had already checked the quest walkthroughs and didn't find anything, so I thought that it was an important event that gave a quest later on/affected something later in-game. I checked the game walkthroughs this time and it seems like it was just a random event. One walkthough said to ask the woman for more information and continue on your way, and none of them said that the event affects anything in-game, as far as I can tell from what I skimmed.

>>137735489
I think I know which one you're talking about; thought I actually had it, but I can't find it. This is the closest one I have to it.
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>Hoyposting is dead
Sure fucking is huh.
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>>137737214
I need to make some new ones.
Or work on Gaston.
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>>137736758
But what if I die?
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>>137737214
It's been a long while since so much hoyposting here though.

>>137737375
I want to make new ones too but kinda lack ideas for now.
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>>137737214
Gotta post some rare hoys if you want them to appear.
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>>137737640
>mfw I was the one who started this thread's hoyposting spree
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>>137737430
You're already in hell.

>>137737608
I still manage to make new ones once every couple weeks.
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>discovered the VAPORWAVE REQUESTS thread on /wg/
>asked them to vaporize pic related
>requested they make it look dark and sinister
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>>137737948
10/10 hoy
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>>137738034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QWOnNkzpFk

I saw this on youtube the yesterday in the suggested videos. What the fuck even is vaporwave?
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>>137738423
>not knowing what Vaporwave is
>in the year 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporwave

So yeah
They gave me pic related.
Feel free to save it and use it as a wallpaper.
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>>137738423
>What the fuck even is vaporwave?
Slowed down meme music.
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>>137738578
That hurts my eyes anon.
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>>137738612
Accurate.
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>>137738423
Sounds like someone's farting.
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>>137738676
I think that was an intended effect, for this one.
Ascending to gain the powers of a full demon should hurt at least some part of your body, no?
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>>137738759
You mean it sounds like shit.
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Help me out anons.
I'm buying DeSu 2 BR finally, and see for myself just how bad the Triangulum Arc is. But I'm indecisive regarding my second purchase: should I buy Persona Q or Etrian Odyssey Untold II? How much content does Persona Q have? Replayablity?
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>>137741121
Get both. But always prioritize Megatens.
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>>137735256
Amazing edit anon
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>>137741338
>Get both
Eh, I would but technically it's a gift for my birthday so.

>But always prioritize Megatens.
Yeah, I'm leaning more into buying PQ even though no P1/P2 given that I already all the other Personas. Thing is, I'm curious of how much content does PQ actually has. I'm sorry if I'm asking here instead of /pg/ but those guys don't even know what good gameplay is.
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>>137741121
I'd recommend EOU2 because it has an extensive story mode, and an even deeper and nicer classic mode.

Persona Q is fine, and works as a good fanservice game.

Both are very long, but EOU2 has more replay value, since the only replayability of PQ is choosing the alternate Persona team from your first playthrough and listen/read to their interactions.
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>>137741121
hack your 3ds and get both
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>>137741121
EOU2 is a much better dungeon crawler and game overall. Also has more replayability.
But I'm really not a fan of Persona, so take it with a grain of salt. You seem to be, so you probably should go with it.
Missing out on a really great game and nice lolis though.
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>>137741854
Both are great games in my opinion.

I think it all comes down to what kind of thing you want: experiencing a brand new world with more hardcore dungeon crawling. Or playing the only good Persona spin-off, which while still being tough, is more laidback and will give you lots of fanservice.
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>>137741890
>>137742569
>>137742592
Thanks for the input guys. Guess I'll go with EOU2. I'm really itching for a good long RPG.

>>137741913
I should really look into this. I have my 3DS at 10.6 and from what I know I can hack it right?
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>>137742939
If you're going to hack a 3DS, buy a 2DS for $89 (or cheaper used).
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>>137742939
You can't use browserhax on 10.6, but yes you can hack it. There's other entry points. I suggest looking for one on /hbg/ or google.
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>>137743303
To avoiding bricking right? Maybe I'll invest in one then.

>>137743379
Alright. Sounds like a plan. I'll go over there one of these days and ask.
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>that bathhouse scene

Never thought Raidou would be able to throw a heavy punch. Hope there's more fist-fighting, or an option to do so. Why did he keep his hat on?
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>tfw there will never be a SMT x Castlevania
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>>137746178
>implying we'll ever even get a new Castlevania Bloodstained doesn't count and neither does that SEXY pachinko shit
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>>137746621
>tfw no SMT x Castlevania Ero-Pachinko
Or probably no SMT x "anything else" on that matter. But hey, it's kinda fun to fantasize.
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>>137746980
>SMT x Theathrhythm
or
>SMT x Castlevania
and it would be my instant GOTY. Too bad we will never get either and if we actually get them, it's going to be in a complete shit like FE#
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This is pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ZXidH4XbE
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>>137471309
I was suprised when the reverse happened with Okuninushi in DeSu:OC and then go to IV
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>>137750095
Why the fuck would you be surprised about that? Have you played Nocturne?
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Honk honk.
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>>137751148
No
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The anon making an Alice in IV again, should I switch Salvation of it with dekunda to make it less of a healer?
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>>137741854
I love this picture so much.
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>>137753491
Post a pic of her.
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>>137754269
This, but with Salvation instead of Die for Me!
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>>137754394
Good job so far, anon.
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>>137755525
Thanks
my fucking neck
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>>137754394
>>137755525
10/10
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>>137755525
jesus fuck
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>tfw LUK build+Occult Flash
>Instant death activate 60% of the time
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>>137757163
What kind of picture would you use to represent someone who lives in a World of LUK?
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>>137757356
Shouldn't even be a question senpai.
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>>137757356
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>>137757617
Wasn't the original pic Daisy begging for some Donald D?
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>Go to software developer interview
>Goes fucking awesome
>One more phone interview and this shit is mine
>Go to Half Price Books after
>Crowley, Crowley everywhere

You'd think for being such a big name in the occult world SMT would refer to Aleister Crowley at some point. It's not really demon reference like the Lesser Key of Solomon (ironically the Crowley Edition is reportedly shit) but the dude wrote some weird stuff in his time.
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>>137759573
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>>137759573
>Aleister Crowley
He's literally a demon
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>>137759573
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>>137760052
He was a master ruseman.
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>>137760048
>>137760052
>>137760310

Bahaha, that's fucking great. I guess I should have specified as more plot-centric. Or just Googled, shame on me.

I can post excerpts if anyone cares for some. There's a bit about corned beef hash in the Book of Lies.
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>Crowley
Disdain for plebs
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>Crowley
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>>137763550
Only american series I like.
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>>137763816
>Not liking Seinfeld
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>>137763816
I literally have not watched TV in 5 years
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>>137763816
I liked Lost, Dexter, and Battlestar Galactica. But that's about it.

The UK version of Being Human was incredible.
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>>137763816
>Liking Supernatural
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>>137764067
>Dexter
Lumberjack.
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>>137765052
You don't?
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>>137765247
Garbage series with a garbage fanbase.
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>>137765534
First five seasons where great. That's when it was supposed to end. Everything after that is just made due to the high popularity of the show. And who the fuck cares about the fanbase? Don't let fanbases ruin things for you anon.
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>>137765534
>with a garbage fanbase
Relevant how?
If I had to choose stuff I like based on fanbases, I'd probably like nothing because everything turns to shit as soon as more than a few start to like it.
I mean these threads aren't really good either and shouldn't even start to think about Persona.
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>>137765697
>First five seasons where great.
Not really.

>>137765869
>shouldn't even start to think about Persona
People discuss Persona fine here unless you try to post about waifus.
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>>137766145
>Not really.
Your opinion is wrong anon. That's too bad.
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>>137766145
>People discuss Persona fine here unless you try to post about waifus.
I meant the fanbase of Persona but yeah there are some things you shouldn't be posting about here, like genocide and stuff.

>Not really.
So what would you criticize about the show? I find it entertaining although I admit that I haven't watched that much yet.
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>>137766469
The Persona fanbase is cancer, yes. And that's why I don't associate with MegaTen fans outside of here either. And alignment wars are a year old meme. No one cares enough to start shit over that anymore. Final's characters and endings are the hot new bait desu senpai and even that's pretty much dead.

Didn't care for the acting in it, or the writing for the matter. It bored me.
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>>137767094
>No one cares enough to start shit over that anymore
I like to think that the butthurt shitposting that came with it is at fault. Those discussions were highly interesting.

>Didn't care for the acting in it, or the writing for the matter. It bored me.
I can understand that but that doesn't strike me as a good reason for calling others liking it out.
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>>137767630
>Those discussions were highly interesting.
They were and so were some of the criticisms of Final. But there comes a point where actual discussion is exhausted and there is nothing left to do but shitpost about it. I kinda miss beadman's long winded posts going into detail on religion. But what can you do?

>that doesn't strike me as a good reason for calling others liking it out.
Pic related.
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>>137768043
>But there comes a point where actual discussion is exhausted and there is nothing left to do but shitpost about it.
We never got that far. People started shitposting as soon as someone posting something about law being a good alignment. So the actual discussion had to keep itself up in a massive shitstorm from the get-go.

>Pic related.
Not really an excuse in my opinion (this image has more use for stuff that's unusual for the real life norm but pretty common in here). A mindset like that should be discouraged since it's exactly the reason why the alignment discussion went to shit in the first place.
4chan isn't a place to go to for shitposting, it's mainly a place to discuss things. The shitposting is only secondary and really shouldn't actually hurt discussion to the extent of completely disabling it.
It's fine if people want to shitpost but don't drown actual discussions in it. People thinking that 4chan is their toilet (and reddit for actual discussion, I read that more often than I want to here) should leave.
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>>137769196
>We never got that far.
If you have something to add to reasons on why SMT IV law isn't that bad be my guest and state them. People already got to the root of the disagreement with the whole utilitarianism versus deontology thing.

>since it's exactly the reason why the alignment discussion went to shit in the first place
There was no discussion on Supernatural and it's not really SMT so I don't think it's all that comparable.
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>tfw when you find a cheat that lets you fuse any two demons into any demon you want
No more chain fusing. No more mindlessly wondering around the entire fucking game looking for specific demons/races just to get 1 demon that's needed for another demon that you want. Now I just fuse the best 4 demons that are around my current level.
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>>137713895
Anyone?
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>>137770254
Think one dude did some mapping on talking-time. You can also check that Japanese website, but its name escapes me so I'll get back to you on that if I remember it.
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>>137770254
Think I found it.
http://gamers-high.com/megami4-final/map/yhvh.html
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>>137769839
>If you have something to add to reasons on why SMT IV law isn't that bad be my guest and state them. People already got to the root of the disagreement with the whole utilitarianism versus deontology thing.
Maybe I have misunderstood but I thought you were implying that the shitposting couldn't be helped because there was nothing left to discuss which I disagree with since there was shitposting right from the start.

>There was no discussion on Supernatural and it's not really SMT so I don't think it's all that comparable.
I was more talking about the mindset of "I'm on 4chan, I don't have to come up with any arguments, I'll just shitpost". I mean you have to admit that
>First five seasons where great.
>Not really.
is completely pointless. It boils down to I like it-I don't, so there's really no good reason to make posts like >>137765052 if you can't even explain why a series is shit which shouldn't be that hard to do.
>It bored me.
Is honest at least, most people on 4chan would probably have written "It's boring" pretending that it's an objective fact, so there's that.
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>>137770542
>>137770757
Thanks anons.
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>>137754394
>>137755525
Perfect.
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>>137770902
You're welcome.

>>137770892
You and I have different definitions of when banter and jokes become shitposting. In my opinion it didn't get unbearable until discussion started to repeat itself is what I'm saying. After it started repeating itself it stopped being worth reading and jumped the shark from interesting discussion to shitposting not worth reading.

And just saying "I like x" adds about the same to a conversation as "I don't like x" so I'm not sure why you're so upset about this. The post I replied to contributed nothing to the general either. Lighten up, at least the guy I replied to went along.
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>>137771140
I feel conflicted? Is this a hoy or?
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>>137771727
>And just saying "I like x" adds about the same to a conversation as "I don't like x" so I'm not sure why you're so upset about this. The post I replied to contributed nothing to the general either.
I know. I'm not upset. It's just that ">liking x" and "I don't like x" are a little bit different. The first one implies that there's something wrong with the opinion of another guy.
People were listing shows they liked and you came along and posted a reaction face at someone liking something, so I was looking forward to you shittalking the show (and stopping a pointless listing of shows people like) but you disappointed me severely. That's the reason why I couldn't go along with it like that other guy, I guess.
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>>137772335
it's a daijobu
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>>137772335
Yeah, I just didn't come up with a good name for it yet. I was thinking "Yhoykes Scooby"
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>>137772536
The other guy didn't even explain why he liked the show so it's literally no different. Even gave me >>137766295 as a reply when I expressed a couple of things I didn't like about the show. Never once elaborated on what was good about it. And yeah, memetexting is an established way of saying I don't agree with an opinion on this website. I don't see why it's an issue when it's not exactly shitting up an established discussion or inviting the kinds of posters that tend to shit up every thread. It's all in good fun.
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>>137773198
Sounds good to me.
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>>137773241
>It's all in good fun.
This. I could have easily explained why I like the show, what's good about, why it turned to shit, etc. Instead I just said his opinion was wrong and that was the end of it.]

I'd like to discuss SMT related things, but there's almost nothing to discuss anymore. We've talked about all the games enough times already.
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>>137774214
>I'd like to discuss SMT related things, but there's almost nothing to discuss anymore. We've talked about all the games enough times already.
Out of curiosity: What are you still doing here?
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>>137774214
Like I could understand getting upset if it was waifu shit or shipping since that invites a demographic that's been proven time and time again to ruin threads, but it's just bantz over off-topic shit.

>>137774396
The same reason we're all here despite having fuck all to talk about. We wait for someone to think of something to discuss and discuss it with some ebin maymays in between.
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>>137774709
>The same reason we're all here despite having fuck all to talk about. We wait for someone to think of something to discuss and discuss it with some ebin maymays in between.
Speak for yourself, faggot. I'm waiting for new cards.
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>>137774874
Sounds like you don't stick around here through thick and thin then. Disgusting. I hope you'll prove me wrong.
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I want to fuck best Law girl.
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>>137774396
>Out of curiosity: What are you still doing here
Wasting time. Hoping news about something, anything, drops. Playing SMTII and occasionally posting a screenshot. Waiting to see if there are any new trap flynn pictures.
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did the devil children anime already have a sub way before or
https://kissanime.to/Anime/Shin-Megami-Tensei-Devil-Children-Light-Dark
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>>137775635
Is it waifu time already?
You've posted the wrong image by the way.
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>>137775919
If it did I didn't know about it. We should do another stream desu.
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>>137775919
>shinmigami tension
Well that's a new one. Anyways, only the first episode of DemiKids was ever subbed in English. I hope the entire series gets subbed.
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>>137776696
What surprises me more is that he acknowledges P1 and P2.
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>>137775919
Pretty sure it's the same version from here:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=102282

>2009
Yeah, we're not getting the full series subbed.
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>>137776840
Duh, that's because if there is a Persona 3, 4 and 5; logic dictates that there must be a Persona 1 and 2.

But notice how he doesn't aknowledge Persona 2 as a duology.
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>>137776696
>If anyone knows what i am saying than please tell me
He at least knows that he's retarded.
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>>137777034
you're right, it probably is
but I want to believe ;;
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How good are the Persona 2 games? What should I expect compared to P4?
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>>137777090
Well the implication of saying something like that is that he cares about P1 and P2 in some fashion which is remarkable.

>>137777473
Awful gameplay, but the writing is miles above P4's and worth it.
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>>137776696
>shinmigami tension
this entire coment made laugh autisticaly for five minutes
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>>137777473
The gameplay is alright if you treat at as another turn based JRPG. Fusion spells are nice and in Innocent Sin, you never have to bother with getting different Personas aside from the ones that you're given, since the game is so easy.

They're worth playing, that's for sure. Eternal Punishment Portable is being fan translated, I highly suggest you wait for that instead of the PS1 version.
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>>137776696
>tfw know someone who actually pronounces Tensei as Tensai
I want to correct him so badly but I don't want to come off as an asshole like I so often do about those things.
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>>137777640
>>137778058
Well, thanks you two anons, I guess I'll give it a go
Need something to play on my PSP after all
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>>137487580
I know I'm late but I wanted to be a bit further in my second playthrough before answering.
I'm pretty much at the end and there's not one new game+ quest unless I'm missing something here (I did every quest except one that involved fusing something in my first playthrough in which I went Analchy by the way. maybe there are some new game+ quests if you go Piece [of Shit])
There also aren't that much challenge quests either, IV took me way longer if I remember correctly.
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tfw you'll never explore the post-apocalyptic world with a Pixie
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>>137775635
Beth a DEAD
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>>137778320
Just casually bring up the name yourself, like:
>yeah, I was playing Shin Megami Tension II the other day, and I think it is pretty cool
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>>137779000
You fucked up, anon.

That quest you missed unlocks an entire arc of 5 other quests.
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>>137781854
>Shin Megami Tension
Please don't make this an ongoing thing
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>>137781854
I've pronounced it better, not going to say properly since I'm not fluent in moon, around him plenty of times. He still fucking says it. I'm not sure but I think he might know that he's triggering my autism so he does it on purpose.
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>>137782269
>he's triggering my autism so he does it on purpose
That might be the case if he is actually your friend.
But if he is already your friend, just tell him that he's an idiot. If he asks for source just link him to any announcement or a "making of" video to prove him wrong.

>>137782108
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>>137782269
Kill him
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>inb4 next thread is called /smtg/ - 真女神転生 Shinmigami Tension General
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>>137783306
No.
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>>137783306
Dude, the more you whine, the more likely is that people will pick it up.
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>>137783306
I will purge you all in the name of a quality thread if that's what it takes.
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When do I unlock Krishna, Lucifer, Merkabah and Satan's fusion? I already beat them and currently at YHVH's doorstep.
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>>137782269
Just kill him. That's what friends do.
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>>137784053
>Lucifer, Merkabah
>fusion
Seriously?
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>>137784053
I think Lucifer and Satan have to be recruited by siding with them if you're talking about 2.
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>>137784604
>>137784765
It's for IVFinal.
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>>137784096
But his alignment is the same as mine.
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>>137784856
I know it, but I don't think you can fusion them in IVF.
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>>137785032
I think there was a screenshot of their status screen in the cathedral?
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http://strawpoll.me/7292859
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Jesus, just got a card from someone with Level 999, Dog Lv.660, Gnome Lv.32 (White Card, why?)
Play Time 236:06:18, 920 Streetpasses
I want to be like him.

>>137784053
You have unlocked them already. Your compendium is just a shit. Either redeem yourself now or try harder next time.
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>>137785606
Now that I think of it, SMT is one of the weakest megaten series.
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>>137785794
B-but it says I have 66% of all demons.

Also they're not in the special fusion tab.
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>>137785901
Saleswise, or what?
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>>137787452
Quality wise
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>>137788253
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What's keeping you guys from finishing the SNES games, those of you that answered the poll?
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>>137791851
Errr, *SFC games...
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>>137791851
I have a save that's like, 1/3rd through SMT2, 2 is probably the SMT with the worst pacing. Even SMT4 keeps you going with short bursts of "new place, get quests, look around". I think I stopped somewhere around abbadon and collecting Masakdo's parts.
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>>137792376
I thought it was a major improvement over the pacing of 1. I always felt like I knew what to do and was doing something whereas I was much more likely to get lost or forget things in 1.
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>>137791851
I usually take month long hiatuses in between my RPG games. These games don't have logs and the NPCs are very vague with what they say, so I always get completely lost and drop them.
I also hate to play sitting in front of my PC.

Sorry, anon.
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>>137792480
I dunno, SMT1 is so concise that I could write down a list of how to beat the game on a notepad and check it off with no trouble.

But SMT2 starts off with a weird difficult curve, and has a lot of linear sequences and some fetch quests. It's a much bigger game, but it's definitely less focused.
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>>137792642
I think this is why they put reminders with NPCs in the bars though. If I ever forget, I usually just check there. I definitely agree it'd be a lot easier to get through if they were portable though.
>>137792772
That's true. I don't really know why I got that feeling. I think it was just the lack of L button map in 1 that pissed me off and took me a while to get used to.
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>>137793046
>I think it was just the lack of L button map in 1 that pissed me off and took me a while to get used to.
play the PS version
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>>137793214
I have, though not all the way through. I'll probably do one after I've done a Spanish run on chaos.
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>>137793214
There is a mod for it on SNES.
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>>137793373
Yeah, but it's more annoying that way. Also it fucks up Automapper, if you actually use that.
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>>137793361
>not doing an orden run in spanish
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>>137793663
That's what I said I'm doing. What do you mean?
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>>137793789
You said you were doing a caos run.
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>>137793878
Is Orden a lawfag?
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Who's your favorite law rep?

I like Zayin because he has the best hair.
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Hoy.
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>>137793935
Dunno, but orden means order. Probably a pun.
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Could Futomimi be the reincarnation of Gale? I ask because they're both pretty intelligent in their worlds and. DDS1 takes place after Nocturne, or so I've heard.
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Hoy.
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Hoy.
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Hoy
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Hoy posters are the worst.
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>>137799018
If DDS1 is after Nocturne, shouldn't Gale be the reincarnation of Futomimi?
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>>137806980
Meant for
>>137799660
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>>137799660
>>137806980
Reincarnations share the same fate, don't they? Usually.
I don't think Futomimi and Gale are too similar, but it's been a while since I've played either game.
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Hoy.
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Good morning /smtg/.

>>137791851
Backlog and the clunkiness of the games. I really like the atmosphere and music in I but the gameplay is rather meh. Although I'm currently replaying SMT I and then gonna play all the other SFC/SNES games.
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>>137801392
>>137805212
>>137805387
>>137810347
At least post some Hoys with your Hoys.
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>>137780690
>implying Hua Po or Napaea aren't superior
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Can Satan be unlocked on Peace route? I'm beginning to think that killing YHVH peacefully was a bad idea.
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Slow general is slow.
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Please tell me that I can't spam Mazio to win almost every fight in SMT 2.
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Quick question: playing SMT I, when am I able to get the Nerve Bullets? I remember I could get them rather early in the game.
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>>137817737
When Heroine joins your party, take them from her.
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>>137817815
Oh fuck. I didn't even notice she had them equipped. Thanks.
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Okay I am fed up with Final's compendium at this point. I am at 95% completion, have almost all demons including the famed ones. All I am missing is Rama, DLC demons, Lucifer, Merkabah, Krishna, and Satan. Somehow I still can't fuse the last four despite being on NG+. Can anyone help?
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>>137791851
They don't run properly on my o3ds and I haven't hacked my vita yet.
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>>137795965
I like Zayin/Gabriel because it's the only time I've been enticed to do a law route. Johnathan is great though.
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>>137795965
If going by mainline then Zayin. Otherwise, Amane.
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>>137795965
Zayin, Jonathan is also good.
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>>137825228
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>>137825465
Looks like you came to the wrong neighborhood
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>>137825726
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>>137825465
Muy bueno.

>>137825726
kek
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>>137825228
Best OC in a while
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>>137831189
Are you implying we haven't had good OC in years?
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>>137831189
It's pretty fucking old mate
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>>137831423
>>137831671
I figured but it's still one of my favorite recent ones.
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>>137831730
>recent
It's not recent though.
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>>137825726
>MAGAdolaon
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>>137831730
Recent is relative. It's newer than Dante.
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>>137833221
Meant for
>>137831820
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>>137792772
Could you? I love check-list style guides and I haven't played SMT yet.
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>>137650270
Are there others like this? If so, where?
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>>137836104
http://smtg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=wallpaper
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>>137836104
The booru.
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>>137836150
>>137836209

thank u friends
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If you overrule a previous king, and you take his place and make your own rules, is that chaos or law?
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>>137840228
Depends on the rules.
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>>137840228
What are the new rules?
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>>137840228
Depends on the rules.
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>>137840228
I think it depends on why you overthrew the previous king.
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>>137840338
>>137840306
>>137840357
I think that's exactly what all the Akira's did, all with different alignments.
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Now I know why she appeared. Basically part of the plot.
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Best milf.
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>>137843718
Delete this image right now.
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Is the Avatar Tuner book any good?
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>>137846847
I heard good stuff about it but I have yet to actually read it.
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>>137846847
It's pretty good, yeah. Second book will come out in English eventually.
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Cute.
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>>137848414
Gale has my favorite demon form from the crew.
And while in human form, Argilla is my favorite.
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>>137849082
Funny, it's the exact opposite for me.
Roland the best though.
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>>137849205
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wake up
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>>137849205
I really like his style. But his demon form looks like something taken straight out of Thundercats.
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Hoy.
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>>137849082
For me is either Gale or Roland's demon form. I agree on Argilla though. She and Serph look the best when human. Gale's hood is awesome though.
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>>137856306
I want to grind against her leg.
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>>137859543
Who doesn't?
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>>137862097
Just keep telling yourself that, anon. Law is so superior that not even atlus' neutral bias can stop it from being obviously the best.
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Researching online, all I could find is that Dante is dressed in his DMC 2 clothes in Nocturne.
This means that his participation on that game probably happened right before or after DMC, but I couldn't find which online.

So, do any of you guys know if Dante had just finished DMC 2 ordeals before entering Vortex World or if he was about to start the DMC 2 story but first made an appearance at Nocturne?
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>>137863651
Doesn't matter. Raidou replaces him in the updated version anyways.
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>>137859543
You've given new meaning to my life
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>>137865229
I do not comprehend.
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>>137865840
I now know what I want to do
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>>137866457
Well, get a gun or some rope and you're off to Muladhara!
>>
It's difficult to judge Law as an alignment when Atlus barely bother to explore the concept beyond Old Testament/Gnosticism and cannot even come up with alternatives to angels as the main representative.
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>>137867529
I thought Ronaldo was a decent take on it (I know DeSu doesn't count as having alignments).
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>>137856306
WHAT ABOUT SERAPH, GUYS?
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>>137868367
Jenna's Jizz or Seraph's Sperm?
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>>137864321
It's not a replacement, it's another version.
Even if it was, it would still matter to whoever wanted to know.
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>>137868367
That's a man
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>>137871484
No.
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>>137871961
That's a tranny
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>>137872070
Incorrect.
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>>137872192
Ok fine.
That's a space hindu tranny.
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Hoy.
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>Playing SMT IV on master difficulty
>Get to Medusa
>Flynn downed in like 3 turns
>Press on
>Few turns later only Zhu Tun She remains with 25 HP, even Jonathan is dead
>Solos Medusa for god knows how long because the AI is too retarded to not use gun skills
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Wake up.
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>>137882114
I'm working on a 500 page paper due in 20 minutes leave me alone
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>>137777034
If you get the raws and a translation, I'll typeset the subs.
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How annoying is the mantra system in DDS? I was able to cope with the system in FF XIII if that's any help in answering my question.
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>>137876524
I'm always torn when things like that happen. On the one hand it feels really satisfying to have an enemy's attacks all automatically nulled/repelled/drained and so on.
On the other, I can't help but be disappointed that they didn't bother to put any effort into making intelligent enemies fight intelligently. Seems like it'd be one of the best ways of adding difficulty.
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>>137889118
The few bosses that change their pattern according to what you use are usually in a bullthit way, such as Satan and the like in DDS2.
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>>137889118
I wish more enemies fought like the fiends do honestly. It's just dumb that I managed to solo her on auto battle and call it a day.
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>>137889118
I'd like to see hard modes with AIs that stop using skills that are nulled once they hit a null, or if it's a single target skill they stop using it on the demon that did it. That's probably way too much effort though.
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>>137888596
I didn't find it very annoying. I don't really see any similarity to FFXIII though.
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>>137895724
What I've seen of it looked somewhat similar to the skill system.
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>>137863651
It happens before DMC2, so if it were canon, Nocturne would retcon that game, which is fine by me.
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>>137888596
It's not annoying at all unless you actually hate to customize your characters.
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>>137902218
Okay, good. I was just worried it would stress me out.
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>>137902494
It's a lot better than what Nocturne had, if you have played that.

The game might or might not kick your ass depending on how you progress your grids but it is not super unforgiving, and you can always look up tips online.
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To me it seems like the only elements of SMT 2 that I disliked where them trying to force in elements of MT 2 like the pillars and handling it poorly.
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>>137906084
BACK TRACKINGF
TRACK BACKING
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SMT 1 remake with better fusion mechanics when?
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Why do people want remakes so bad?
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>>137909732
Updated visuals and other things.
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>>137909732
Because Hero deserves new character art.
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>>137910158
But he got new art.
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>>137910325
not enough
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I have never played an SMT game of any kind.

I just got a 3DS.

Will I fucking like SMT IV because it looks pretty good.
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>>137911612
Play it and find out.
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>>137911612
Sure, just be aware that it's bullshit hard at first. Save constantly and it gets more reasonable very quickly.
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>>137728420
Is that top one a Hyper Hoyan?
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