Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

SM: July 29th
CSM+GK: August 19th
DG: September 23rd

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>Need a light?

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Posted right at end of last thread, so R8 and H8 blades of the inquisiton, I took all the advice people offered and am trying to game the system

>tempestor prime
>command squad: 4 plasma guns

>eversor assassin

>grand master voldus
>4 Paladins

>taurox prime: gatling cannon, twin volley guns
>stormtroopers: two volley guns
>stormtroopers: two meltaguns

>taurox prime: gatling cannon, twin volley guns
>stormtroopers: two volley guns
>stormtroopers: two meltaguns

>stormraven: assault cannons, hurricane bolters
>inquisitor: force axe, bolt pistol
>Paladin ancient
>4 paladins

>twin assault Cannon razorback
>6 grey knight interceptors

9 drops, 7 command points, tons of dakka, good melee, and tanky as hell. Could it work?

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First for intelligent and fun conversation.

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>begins eating your path

wat do?

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Anyone has both NuMarines and T'au Fire Warriors? I want to see the size comparison

>>54406553
whats your plan to deal with guilliman and stormraven spam?

>>54406555
During marine releases? Putffffff yeah right

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>>54406561
Build a new path, paved with dead orks!.

>>54406597
>tfw just trying to purge the Xenos and your servitor keeps trying to clean your sword mid-combat

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>I've bought, built and painted models i'll never use
i can't even get games in,
why did i fall for the 8th ed meme

>>54406511
First for Salamanders the only good SPESS MURHEEN chapter.

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>>54406561
Blast it with enough dakka to make a second path.

>>54406617
Explain?

>>54406582
.......cede.

In actuality, my group has already decided that flyers can't grab objectives in hover mode AND we do lots of progressive objectives (thank you based frontline), so I can play objectives well enough.

I can fend of conscripts, boyz, and gaunts well enough with the tauroxes (Gatling alone kills 12 per volley), so in honesty I think I'm pretty safe against most lists unless they go all out on spamming units (granted that does happen in tourneys)

>>54406561
Set it on fire.

Resculpts incoming for Grey Knights including HQs

>>54406619
This is fact

>>54406619
>First
>5 minutes later
Do you even look before you post?

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>>54406638
>Grey Knights including HQs

Oops, missed the thread change.

What is the usual stance on converting units to one army's aesthetic and using the rules from another army?

I want to make some custom Kastelans from Stormfiends and a pack of electro-servitors to go with my converted Archmagos Biologis, plus probably a converted Admech flyer of some kind because Air Superiority.

Thing is, the GW store I currently go to is the mega-autistic one I've talked about a couple times before here, where they didn't let me use my custom Spider-Archmagos as Cawl because he's apparently a proxy. You can't do anything other than swapping a couple bitz or the players and staff will chew you out for proxying stuff, despite most every game being 2k Grey armies w/knights since there's only 2 4x4 tables and nobody will play small games because it's the only one they're gonna get.

Luckily, I'm moving next year, up to a slightly bigger city, and hopefully there'll be a better group there. (If not I'm making my own, dammit, I want to play proper 40k after finding out what it could be like). I thought I might start converting stuff now, since it's unlikely I'm going to take the 2hr trip to stand in a crowded store for ages and possibly play one mediocre game much anymore.

What's the usual rules on conversions, in terms of size and WYSWIG? The electro-servitors were going to have a real mishmash of weapons - Dual Chordclaws, Kataphron servo-arms, Power Mauls, maybe the odd Thunder Hammer or Taser Goad - can I just say "these dudes are all Fulgurites so they have electroleech staves"? Size differences were going to be made up for with somewhat thicker bases, but that's a a tad tricky with flyers since I don't want it to have wings. Can I have a legal flyer conversion without stretching something 6" to either side just to make up LoS?

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Tell me something about Death Guard.
Are they any good?
Are their models done well?
If I buy a DG half of the DI box how should I expand my forces - will a second half be a good pick?
If yes, is it possible to converse them so I will not end up with an army of clones?

>>54406662
>salty marines malevolent player detected
Hey man, I was the first to say 'first for'. That's a win in my book.

>>54406628
>progressive objectives
Whadd'ya mean bozz

>>54406619
>>54406648
By good you mean they potentially get dozens of free CP worth of rerolls each turn? Or good overall because they are literally the boy chapter for painting flames on green monster hot wheels.
>inb4 game for 13yos
When I was 9 I painted a space marine with flames on his shoulder pads and even then right after I thought it looked ridiculous

>>54406638
I don't believe it, also why? Aside from librarians- who are stupidly difficult to work with but no one takes them anyway- all the models hold up really well and are good conversion material otherwise.

I welcome more stuff, but we don't need new models. Go give Inquisition or Crons new stuff firsf

>>54406683
>Not particularly
>Yes
>No, monopose
>Not really if you're not particularly keen on modeling and conversions

>>54406688
>first to say first for
>incorrect see
>>54406555

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>>54406638
Source?
I always took this comment as GW's excuse to hold off making Primarius GKs and if >>54406543 is to believed it appears GKs (and CSM) are sandwiched between two big release codices with confirmed new models and of the two listed (GKs and CSM) the CSM need new kits more than GKs

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How do Eldar Guardians and Dire Avengers match up to Guardsmen and Marines, respectively. I don't need a big reply or a bunch of research, just a quick summary from people who have played them.

>the typical game is five turns

WTF

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Battalion Detachment, 2000 pts.

HQ

Warboss, PK, Kombi-rokkit

Weirdboy

Elites

1x 4 Burna Boyz, Spanner (Killsaw, Kombi Skorcha)

Troops

3, 29 Boyz, Boss Nob, 3 Rokkit Launcha

Heavy Support

1x 6 Killa Kans, 2 Rokkit Launchas, 2 Grotzookas, 2 Kustom Mega-blasta

1x9 Lootas, Spanner (Kustom Mega-blasta, Killsaw)

1x 6 Mek Gunz, 2 Traktor Kannons, 4 Kustom Mega-Kannons

Dedicated Transport

1 Trukk, Rokkit Launcha, Wreckin' Ball.

Rate.

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Predictions?

>>54406683
>lord of contagion
literary worse typhus
>poxwalkers
they are alright, rip against imperial fists kinda
>plague marines
they are alright, 5+++ is always welcome
>drone
didn't use it
>fat mage and bell ringer
didn't use

>>54406683
>Are their models done well?
As a matter of my personal opinion (which is obviously objective truth) I think they're pretty bad. I like many of the individual design elements, but I think they're way too busy with far too many horns, spikes, bells and hanging guts present at once on each model. Overall I think they come across as cartoony and overdone.

>>54406750
another saint story zzz

>>54406750
One of the Sisters ends up being an Alpha Legion operative.

Anyone know where or how to weight dice? I want a bit of an edge in my local konor event when I use my ultra against some shitty waac xenos faggots.

>>54406725
But my anon, in that pic they say "for now", and also new/rescaled models do not necessarily mean primaris (see also death guard, which was rescaled nonetheless).
But yeah the sandwich idea seems pointing in the direction of no new stuff. But since GW had time to do a number of sculpts for the same models (see starting set and all the easy to build shit) maybe it didn't take them too much time to give new models for each faction.
But yeah given this post it would seem like a bullshit move from gw if they said no news for gk then BAM new models one month later.
I'm interested in the gk thing myself because i'm not sure if i should wait for the codex and "rumored" new models or start my collection now

>>54406771
(You)

>>54406748
Are you using a list-builder? If so, where can I find it; I'm really new, and want to try to see what I can get for 2000 pts.

>>54406750
Alpha Legion reveals that Guilliman is actually Alpharius and all the Primarius Marines are sleeper agents

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>>54406702
>roll some dice
>they give you single turn objectives like grab objective 2, kill an enemy unit in melee, kill a <monster>, etc.
>like the BRB ones but more compacted

I don't know who made the list (ITC or frontline or something), but it makes a lot more fun than 'I sit in my deployment and then rush out turn 6'. Fucks meme gunlines too, so I love it

>>54406726
Where is the picture from? Is that a deathwatch SM?

>>54406768
You might aswell have predicted someone will say we are all Alpharius.

>>54406783
Used Battlescribe, then wrote it out in better formatting.

>>54406795
ITC reminds me what do people think of their "if you finish deploying first you get +1 to first tun roll-off" rule?

>>54406771
Look for something called mercury dice if you wanna cheat without being caught. I've used them in regional tournaments even adepticon. Probably have won several thousand dollars worth of goods that way so they are worth the cost!

The cheap way will maybe get you caught but you can partially melt the dice. They'll roll to consistently so hide them in large dice bind and hope you get lucky when pulling them. I used to do this before I found a mercury dice supplier

>>54406795
So Maelstrom of War.

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>>54406771
I can't tell which cancer is worse anymore

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>>54406683
>The concvict poxwalker is black
>The only black poxwalker
>The only convict poxwalker

>>54406771
Step 1: measure out 330ml of bleach.
Step 2: add lemon to taste.
Step 3: chug it.
Step 4: consider how you are more of a faggot than the WAAC fags you want to be better than.

>>54406789
>the stuff they stole from raven guard was modified into an indoctrination serum

>>54406814
You filthy, cheating bastard.

>>54406543
Well this was around before the prerelease was announced so i'm starting to believe it's true, considering prerelease is on the 22. How much time between prereleases and release usually? One or more weeks?

How do you clean your brushes at the end of a painting session? Seems like I'm going through a fuck ton of them and can't get all the fucking paint out of the brush after finishing.

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>>54406619
so how does combat squads affect salamander units?
does it just stay at 1 re-roll per total unit? because combat squads clearly states that its 2 units.

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I just heard someone refer to the Primaris Dread as "the Pregnought".

>>54406580
Say please

>>54406826
He's not a fucking convict, you idiot.

That's a hazard suit.

Im here to annoy you with questions as a total greenhorn.

Is it worth getting the Dark Imperium set as someone who wants to give 40k a try, but might not be interested in these particular armies?

Id probably be more likely to go Chaos Space Marines if I do get in to the hobby, but not really a big fan of the Death Guard, a bit too Nurgley for my liking. But if I wanted to go with, say, Thousand Sons, could I just the Death Guard as one battalion in my Chaos army?

>>54406839
rinse more often

but i don't do that and just make do with shitty brushes lol

>>54406797
I just found it on google images, and I'm pretty sure it's a Deathwatch Marine. Makes sense because probably only an inquisitor with the Ordos Xenos would be willing to parley with the Eldar.

>>54406818
I know, rainbow dash is the worst.

>>54406628
not trying to be mean or anything, but IMO any list worth its salt right now needs to have some sort of strategy to fight stormraven spam.

>>54406683
GW forgot to release any other DG models so you'll have to wait until next month when their codex is supposedly released.

>>54406833
Lol. Won 1st in Ard Boyz national one year. Do you think the pros play fair?? Those dice cost me a few hundreds of dollars too.

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>>54406845

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>>54406850
Please

>>54406797
His boltgun has an =I= on it. Not concrete proof. But I'd say Deathwatch.

Hey guys, total newb here looking to get into 40k. Ive spent some time looking at the armies, and my wifes boyfriend told me i should play dark angels. I like how they look, are they any good?

>>54406771
First put all your dice on a tinfoil plate.

Make sure all the ones are face up

Then microwave for 4 minutes

If it's working you should see the badluck coming off the dice via sparks.

>>54406737
I've played one game that wasn't decidedly over by T2. Whomever gets the first alpha strike wins, which is usually whomever goes first.

>>54406868
I don't fucking care, you are scum. So is anyone else who fucking cheats.

>>54406852
Probably not then mate

The models are the crux of the game and since you'll be spending hours on them, painting and playing you should really love them. Fuck, I get a bit ropey when I feel the colour is a bit off.

You can get the rules for free from GW's site.

What army looks the most appealing to you?

>>54406839
So wash them with alcohol to get the dried paint out, its not great for the brush, but you don't need to throw brushes put just because they have dried paint on the bristles.

>>54406880
They're a traitor legion, Hydra Dominatus.

>>54406519
Curious as well. It doesn't have to be a character like 7th does it?

>>54406816
That's what it's called, yeah. Fuck thank you it was bugging me I couldn't think of it

>>54406813
I like it. Used it in a few games, it's good against bullshit Knights+Guilliman/Magnus or other memey low-model count lists as you either get the first turn outright or at least force them to put everyone back in case you do.

Kinda lame when a faggot with like 30 drops as Guard gets first turn and blows a chunk of a fair marine list off the table, but honestly if you're not smart enough to go in cover to negate first turn effectiveness you deserve what you get, but the same goes for BRB method. So do what you like, both are fun.

>>54406851
>That's a hazard suit.
Then how did he contract the plague?
Chezch mates, atheist.

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>>54406771
The info is out there, cheater.

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>>54406839
Just water for day to day cleaning. But if you really want to clean your brush or have one with dried paint in need of restoring use this stuff. It's fucking magical. Just rub a wet brush in it and then work it in with your fingers. Rinse and the old paint will come right out.

>>54406843

>1 reroll per unit
>2 units

Math is hard...

>>54406919
t. marine player

>>54406852
If you want 1k sons, try a Burning of Prospero set, it costs the same on the webstore. Only thing is that it doesn't come with 8th Edition rules.

>>54406862
Yeah, sadly. My only luck is like I said earlier objective rules and tournaments generally having a painted policy, so atm I don't know of anyone with 5 stormravens. But I heard the local waacfags talking about it last week, so I'm afraid what I'll see in the future

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alright gentle dudes could you rate my list please?

+++ (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [113 PL, 1998pts] +++

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [72 PL, 1405pts] ++

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour [7 PL, 163pts]: Khorne, Chainfist, Combi-melta <World Eaters>
. Rules: Death to the False Emperor, Lord of Chaos, Sigil of Corruption, Teleport Strike

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 83pts]: Khorne, Plasma pistol, Power maul <World Eaters>
. Rules: Death to the False Emperor, Sigil of Corruption

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [14 PL, 286pts]: Khorne <World Eaters>
. Rules: Death to the False Emperor, Teleport Strike
. Chaos Terminator: Lightning claw, Reaper autocannon
. Chaos Terminator: Combi-plasma, Lightning claw
. Chaos Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning claw
. Chaos Terminator: Combi-melta, Lightning claw
. Terminator Champion: Combi-plasma, Lightning claw

Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 204pts]
. Rules: Explodes
. Left Arm: Hellforged deathclaw, Soulburner
. Right Arm: Kheres assault cannon

+ Troops +

3 x

Khorne Berzerkers [5 PL, 87pts]: 4x Khorne Berzerker <World Eaters>
. Rules: Death to the False Emperor
. Berzerker Champion: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

+ Heavy Support +

2 x

Havocs [13 PL, 204pts]: 7x Havoc, 4x Lascannon, Khorne, <World Eaters>
. Rules: Death to the False Emperor
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun


++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [36 PL, 593pts] ++

+ HQ +

Cypher [6 PL, 110pts]

+ Elites +

Fallen [10 PL, 156pts]
. Fallen Champion: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
. 5 x Fallen w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun


Fallen [10 PL, 156pts]
. Fallen Champion: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
. 5 x Fallen w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun

Fallen [10 PL, 171pts]
. Fallen Champion: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. 5 x Fallen w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

>>54406771
Anyone that wants to combat cheater fucks, read this. Very informstive
http://gonewild40k.blogspot.com/2010/07/game-protection-dice.html?m=1

>>54406880
Nice anon
Made me smile

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>>54406771

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>>54406771

>>54406852
If you have no interest in the models then just pick up a rulebook on it's own.

>>54406931
>1k sons, try a Burning of Prospero set,

I'd recommend against this. The Thousand Sons have a radically different aesthetic post-Rubric than Pre-Rubric. (As all the dustbins got funeral crests)

Tho if you wanted Iron Warriors BoP would give a decent chunk of Marines.

>>54406919
just wanted to make sure, I mean thats what I figured but sometimes thats not how other people see it.
thanks

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Dont mind me, just doing my usual shilling for this book. Absolute must read if you're an IH fan, tons of fluff. And if you're not a fan of the Robotboys (like I was) it's still a very good book.

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>>54406826
>Poxwalkers have pink skin with some green
>One with yellow skin
>Dressed like a ninja

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>>54406619
Doom Eagles say hi.

>>54407028
Mind sharing a link?

>>54406949
this is common sense

>>54406949
This shit right here is why i don't play competetivley.

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>>54406548
>rub my shoes in lotion

>>54407111

>rubs his flipflops onto the carpet

Zzap!

>>54406662
It's a salamander m8, they're not exactly the quickest IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

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>>54407059
Thing is, I bought the book, and I'd have gladly given the pdf to you if it were old or a bad book. However, it's only a few months old, and a very good read, so the author deserves my money (and other people's money by extension) imo.
I'll probably start posting pdf of it next year.

In the meantine, here's another very good book, and this one I give away for any reason, since it's not even sold because of legal fuck ups.
Very good boo about an unknown chapter. Flushes them out without making them snowflakey, far from it.

>>54406617
Sounds like a you problem

>>54407042
>Doom Eagles
Man GW really needs to come up with a better naming scheme. "Doom eagles" sounds like something a 13 year old would come up with when trying to be edgy.

>>54407152
Name them better then

>>54407152
Deagles

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Okay, /tg/, here's a weird oen for you. We all know how to orkify something, but how would you Imperialize ork units? I'm running Furor Shield Deathwatch, and I want to run a Gorkanaut as a salvaged counts-as Leviathan Dreadnought. How would you do that, other than slapping Aquilas everywhere?

>>54407152
It's about as edgy / creative as existing chapters.

Reminder to ignore all Marine Codex users until Loren codexes release

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>>54406886
Well I like the look of the Chaos Space Marines like the ones in the pic here, and thousand sons as I said.
Not a big fan of Orks, a mate of mine whos trying to get me into 40k plays Space Marines I think so I was gona avoid them.
Skitaari look kinda cool but they all look a bit samey.

Id like to pick one with a decent bit of fluff so Im gona keep reading up on them and looking at pics.

How do chaos daemons play as opposed to chaos space marines?

>>54407184
It's really hard.
The Ork walkers I feel are too "Orky"
But their Flyers, Trukks, and Battle Wagons can be un-looted.

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Lets talk about melee termies weapon.
What do you think is best choise for them? Lighitng claw? 2 of them? Maybe axe?

>>54407028
One, why the fuck is that Skitarii trying to Agent Smith that Marine instead of using the Plasma SMG that is literally right there, and two is this just going to be more "The marines smashed their way though all six thousand Skitarii in a second and sustained no casualties" bolter porn or is there actual cool Admech in it. Do they ever manage to take down some Marines?

>>54407201
I dunno chum how about you read the index book with both armies in it and fucking find out you stupid little nigger?

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>>54407184

TECH-HERESY DETECTED!

>>54407151
It is a me problem how do i stop

I hate how 8th edition has chased everyone but waacplayers away from the old guard.

>>54406960
Yeah, I ordered the newest Getting Started book and will have a read of that first then maybe get the rule book

Are there any images of other armies being released besides those in Dark Imperium?

>>54406688
What a retard.

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>>54406853
>>54406890
>>54406912
Also any other tips on keeping the brushes not shitty? Like after 2 sessions my brushes look like this.

>>54407201
CSM - Marines with Spikes
Chaos Daemons - Melee Horde with no transports, little to no guns, and unmodifable saves, so no reason to use cover. Has some big monsters

>>54407214
You couldn't even hold Cadia, what makes you think you can hold Octarius? We'll do what we have to for the Imperium. Always have, always will.

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>>54407223
This picture upsets me.

>>54407223
so you're a troll, huh?

>>54407223
go to wip newfag

>>54407223
Pin your taints

>>54407223
Don't dip the entire head into the paint you cretin.

>>54407028
Why are skittles trying to steal that nice man's augmetics?

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How would you convert one of these into a Blastmaster?

>>54407250
>actually giving advice
looks like someone is stuck in 7th edition

So after digging through a lot of GK lore and whatnot I've decided that a Purifier-Paladin army would be rather cool. What's the best way to run this? And what should I field as a HQ for the Paladins?

>>54407257
>Assemble the model
>Paint the model
>All done !

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>>54406674
Anyone? Literally never played anyone else other than some garagehammer, so I don't really know what the normal rules are after the anons here told me my local store was an outlier.

>>54407242
Not at all. Actual question.

>>54407248
Already do.

>>54407250
I don't, it just ends up at the bottom of the brush.

>>54407257
They'd all be Blastmasters in 40k.

>>54407271
>he likes ward knights

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>>54407184
>Imperialize ork units

>>54407276
They're you models, fuck everyone else.

>>54406674
>>54406643
I usually like conversions, but I don't like the sound of those electro priests. You're giving them an autistic mishmash of weapons when they really only have one weapon and it's pretty obvious that they don't have anything even close to it.

if you don't like the electropriest models try swapping the heads, they are 90% of the problem with the model. maybe even find different staves online. but don't make something totally different from what they are, that's a proxy.

>>54407287
>he's stuck in 5e

>>54407271
Stick MSU falchion purifiers in a stormraven with a brother captain

Disembark and rape anything with d6 smites and storm bolter fire, chagre what's left.

>>54407257
Incompetently, eventually ruining my expensive resin model.

Hey, you did ask how *I* would do it.

>>54407211
>implying six thousand Skitarii are going to do anything against a company of marines
>Mars surrendered to the Emprah rather than fight a couple of thousand Astartes with Mk I PA and shit-tier Thunder Warrior boltguns

>>54407288
>>54407214
> Yelling about Tech-Heresy
> Cawl still free and about to become fabricator-general

>>54407276
Rules at my store
>Is it around the same size
>Is it recognizable
>Does it fit the "theme"
In your case we'd be cool with your conversions as they're made for a theme.

>>54407276
Depends on what you're doing exactly. If you're telling me tac marines are actually boyz, or that you're dreadnought is a warlord titan, then fuck right off. In you're case you should be fine, the guys at your store are ass holes.

What city are you moving too?

>>54407274
>>54407285
They would all have Sonic Blasters.
I was asking about blastmasters, the big ones.

>>54407147
Fair enough, I guess I may have to buy it. Already read dark hunters (thanks tho), if eye is as good then I really will have to get it. Coolio

>>54407217
They'll come crawling back, this happens ever edition.

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>>54407184
With high explosives. These affronts to the Omnissiah must be destroyed.

>>54407326

>Implying that Cawl is not Fabius Bile

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>STILL no pictures of Mortarion

>>54407309
Falchion Purifiers in Stormravens sound absolutely rapetastic. Jesus that would generate a shit ton of asshurt.

>>54407326
>about to become fabricator-general

Not while Girlyman is calling the shots.

>>54407351
Even better. You're here bitching at me and you're about to get a Chaos Space Marine with space-cancer in charge of your whole faction.

>>54407338
>green stuff on a boltgun = sonic blaster
>that kakophoni weapon = blastmaster
done

>>54407355
Thats because Mortarian did nothing useful

>>54407355
Codex: CSM soon, fellow poison huffer.

>>54407338
Sonic blasters are the size of a bolter. Those things the models are holding are waaaaay to big to be sonic blasters that's what she said

>>54407338
Make it a guitar

>>54407325

They surrendered because they lost the naval battle and were blockaded, the ground war didn't matter at that point.

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>>54407351
>Cawl is actually Bile
>Guilliman is actually Omegon
>The Emperor is actually Horus
>Primaris are actually just Thunder Warriors and are going to go nuts/die of cancer in the next decade

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>>54407111
I get it

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>>54406561
Shoot it with lascannons, Smite, assault with Daemon Prince and Spawn. Kill it turn three.

>>54407325
No, Mars swore service to Terra when their god showed up having beat down their raiding fleet. This was fairly explict, a whole bunch of them wanted to fight 'cause they didn't think he was holy. The Emperor didn't like them much, either, he would have purged them if he didn't think that he wouldn't win the war without destroying all their infrastructure that he needed.

The constructs of the Mech were massive threats to Astartes then, the advanced ones have a nice time beating up Custodes in HH7. Also, it was the full Legions by that time, not the Grey Astartes.

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>>54407211
Why don't you read the book and give away your shekels to find out? But yes, they do take casualties, and it's mentionned several times in the book that old IH are sturdy and unkillable as fuck, thanks to being made out of mainly bionics, replaceable parts. Hell, a deathwatch captain admits he's ever seen so many service studs in a single chapter. IH don't die often, and in consequence, don't recruit much. 3 new scouts for a clan was considered a good number out of a whole batch of dozens of initiates, and a scout was nearing 100 years old, because there just wasn't any room in the other actual Claves.

>>54407254
Admech may or may not have tampered with forbidden tech near Medusa. Don't want to say too much.

>>54407398
>ground war is irrelevent

That's why SPACE marines > skittles

>>54406683
They're fun to play, not very fast gameplay since Nurgle but they're good at slowly grinding down the enemy. Models are great.

>>54407355
Tbh, I don't know why people actually want Primarchs (or named characters in general) brought back to the game.

Nothing like fluff butchery to watch Guilliman be brought low by a bunch of Orks or Magnus getting murdered by a couple Leman Russ Battlecannons.

>who actually wants Morty brought into the game so you can watch Kaldor Dragio 1v1 him back to the warp.

>>54407437
>Admech may or may not have tampered with forbidden tech near Medusa.

Colour me surprised.

>>54407456
Actually, I think the ork and imperial guard players quite enjoy that.

>>54407456
>Hey Morty, I got a sword with your name on it !

>>54407441
Except they didn't do jack shit, because last I checked MK1 armour was not voidsealed and it was a naval battle and thus a tad beyond bolter range, mate.

Also, Skittles lose to Astartes 1v1, sure, but there's 1m Marines tops and Mars throws away billions of Skitarii haphazardly. Can you seriously say that a Marine can survive having twenty Plasma Calivers pointed at his face?

>>54407464

>IH
>Complaining about forbidden tech.

Oh, go stick your Key of Hel up your ass, you wannabe cogboys. ;)

>>54407464
>Admech may or may not have tampered with forbidden tech

And nobody was surprised

>>54407406
>Primaris are actually just Thunder Warriors and are going to go nuts/die of cancer in the next decade
there are 140 years old Primaris already m8.
Check your timeline.

>>54407381
Mortarion's life is the story of a man who fails so much at everything despite near-godlike power and has to be pity daemonified by Nurgle.

>>54407456
I don't get it either. I thought it might be a british copywrite issue that would be ignored next edition once they have models for each primarch but that seems unnecessary with Forgeworld's Horus Heresy series.

>>54407517
>fanfiction
BOI

>>54407456
>>54407475

Speaking as an Admech player who's army is NEARLY as expendable as those, yes, it's great fun. Good evening, captain plotarmour, have a Neutron Laser, four anti-Materiel rifles and a pile of White Phosphorus to the the face. Not so up yourself now, are you?

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>>54407430
>the advanced ones have a nice time beating up Custodes in HH7

Thallax > Astartes

>>54407437
>3 new scouts for a clan was considered a good number out of a whole batch of dozens of initiates, and a scout was nearing 100 years old, because there just wasn't any room in the other actual Claves.
There's a Baby Boomers v. Millenials bit in here, I'm just too lazy to find it.

>>54407498
The Thunderwarriors didn't reconquer Terra in a day, you dolt.

>>54407441

The point is that they weren't relevant to the conquest of Mars. That was decided by ships, not infantry.

Yes the astartes are the biggest baddest Mary Sues in the galaxy, I get that. But sometimes it's not really up to them.

Can someone tell me what is up with the FW relic rule ? Is it like if my detatchment has 1 Devastator squad, I can only bring 1 Leviathan Dread ?

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>>54407390
Are they? I imagined them bigger, judging from here...

>>54407494
>Can you seriously say that a Marine can survive having twenty Plasma Calivers pointed at his face?

Yes, because the beep-boops would just stand there waiting for the Tech-Priest up in orbit to stop fapping to Busty Martian Toasters and give them permission to discharge 'sacred plasma relics'.

Fluffwise, a single rogue Astartes, Redemption, rekt an entire Mechanicum outpost single handed to support the Solar Auxilia during the Heresy.

>>54407569
How about you stop using pay to win models and you won't have to worry about it anymore?

>>54407534

Yeah but you have to take Cawl yourself and watch the legendary archmagos die to a handful of genestealers or some shit.

I don't know why they're putting all these big important named characters into play. It makes the universe feel a lot smaller.

>>54407607
the pay to win models are from gw, poorfag

>>54407498
How long did the Unification Wars last? At least a century surely given the number of battles.

Plus Taranis and Ghota were still alive, if a bit rough, by the time of the Horus Heresy.

>>54407569

>3 relic leviathans
>3 contemptor mortis
>all salamanders for free rerolls

Problems?

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>>54407607
>REEEEEEEE

>>54407600
They're a little bigger than a boltgun, but using boltguns as sonic blasters is within range for sure. Keep in mind that those arms have the sonic blaster wired onto them and the shoulder. Just go look at an ebay listing for a chaos army that has noise marines and see for yourself.

>>54407297
The plan was for them to look haphazard, since they're not exactly formally designed. Magos experiments, you know. I guessed that since they only had one possible weapon anyway it would be OK, but I'll buy myself some Electrostaves then. The base electropriests look a bit dull to me, not to mention ludicrously expensive at £5 EACH.

>>54407330

Up to Bath. It looks gorgeous there, although obviously I know very little about the tabletop scene. You know, "this dreadnought is a Warlord Titan" is exactly what they said my Spider-Magos would lead to and that was why they had to ban it, actually.

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Orks need jetbikes and air speeders like pic related. Mekboyz can make stuff to rival even Eldar tech if they work 'ard enuff.

>>54407600

>Modelling sonic Blasters as anything other than a guitar

>>54407220
Just Primaris Space Marines stuff so far.

>>54407534
Massed cancer-gun is still surprisingly effective against monstrous creatures too, despite being nerfed against blobs. Though it works against tanks now too to balance that out.

>>54407607
So I can't bring my emperor class titan to our next game?

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>>54407628
Got it, thx m8.

>>5440762

And a chaplain dread for the HQ, obviously.

>>54407600
They look and are held in the same way as a marine heavy flamer.

>>54407628
>Not waiting for the Leviathan Class Redemptor Chadread

Next primarch to come back?

How do people remove the mould lines that go over detailed areas? i.e. a skaven tail, folds of pants, coils of a plasma gun

>>54407611
This is where I got a little evil, since my guy who is being not!Cawl is fluffed to be an utterly terrible fighter but he has his mind uploaded to his Ark Mechanicum and wired into his old body, so he just makes another proxy body whenever he goes down. MUHAHAH, now I am truly expendable through the power of My Dudes!

And yes, I know that's awfully snowflake, but the process is slowly driving him completely insane.

>>54407422
more pics please

>>54407650
We just need like a decade of no marine updates and everything will be fine in the world.

World peace, hunger and suffering will end, only if GW stops making marines for a decade.

>>54407649

The Miniatures Monthly guys are based in bath, at least. Although I don't think they play in stores too often.

>>54407684
Horus

>>54407684
Mortarion

>>54407691
>we just need like a decade of no main characters in 40k and everything will be fine in the world
>this is what NPCs actually believe

>>54407659
1 ) There's no emperor class titan model, nor rules
2) You could, as not a single titan is a "Relic"

>>54407684
Mortarion

>>54407705
I meant the next unconfirmed

>>54406826
it's a fucking hazmat suit

>thinking the imperium would actually spend the time effort and resources to clothe prisoners
>instead of letting them wear rags because fuck them they're lucky we grind the dead into corpsemeal to feed to the rest three times a week

>>54407196
Tsons are excellent but a little overpriced, normal CSM are really strong now except mutilators/obliterators.
Tsons fluff is great.

>>54407705

And Vulkan after him

>>54407687

It's not your fault for being snowflake, GW locked admech players into dumb official fluff by making Cawl <MARS>.

It's kind of the ultimate anti-Your Dudes move.

>>54407686
Very carefully

>>54407715
Lion ?

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>>54407684
The 2nd, thought destroyed by the Emperor on discovery due to a chromosomal abberation, actually kept in stasis in the deepest vault on Titan.

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>>54407712
I was joking but

never played an actual 40k game, but read the 7e rulebook and just read the 8e book in the mega in the OP.

My question is, can you have dual factions in 1 list in 8e via the allies? I want to get into 40k by making a CSM+traitor guard or deamons list, but is this doable? Is it viable? Am I going to get my shit pushed in if I just want a cool chaos marine army with some corrupted guard meatshield gunline dudes in it as well?

>>54407196
Not guy you replied to but those ones are painted up as Word Bearers I believe, they are Chaos undivided so you don't have to worry about their allegiance being one sided to one god like Deathguard and their fluff with like Lorgar is pretty interesting imo. Skitaari are a hassle to paint and expesnive but can pretty cool imo.

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My Cyclops' from FW finally arrived. How do you guys think I should paint them?

>>54407686
Carefully or not at all. There's no silver bullet for it.

So we know all the chapter tactics now, they don't seem too game breaking? The Imperial Fists one seems quite good though. Are we getting special detachments as well?

>>54407650
>it's totally a zoggin jetbike
>'ow does it fly? it ain't got no wings or propella's
>CUZ I SAID IT CAN YA GIT

>>54407704
Deader than Sangy.

>>54407748
Maybe im a bit uninformed, but I thiught the destroyed legions were meant for homebrew

>>54407755
With something that will prevent you from getting cancer from the carcinogenic offgassing of that resin.

>>54407762
lool he wrote it in ork language

>>54407604
I read that. Congrats, you beat to death fifty random monotask servitors, lowranked techpriests and a couple of Thallax in close quarters. A Flesh-Crawler is just a big barge to scoop up a bunch of menials for servitorization, man. It's no grand fortress.

And even barring the fact that their imperatives make Skitarii really fast shots, Techpriests have expanded consciousnesses. Any Dominus worth his salt can fap, troll 40kchan.noosphere, manage his starship and give orders to random fucks on the ground pretty easily.

>>54407755
Emperor's Children Pink.

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Okay, /tg/. I am not a clever man. Can my Deathwatch squads have a boltgun and a plasma gun? A boltgun, chainsword, and bolt pistol? A bolt pistol and chainsword? A plasmagun and bolt pistol? How do the two wordings here interact?

One says I can replace the boltgun with two choices, the other says I can choose one from one list and two from another.

>>54407749
>Rear 13
>Fucking land raider the size of one of it's toes has Rear 14

Shits retarded.

>>54407752

Maybe you should read the rulebook again anon

>>54407686
Remember to scrape, not cut.

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So, what armies is everyone bringing back in time, to decide the fate of Sarah Konor?

>>54407769
Why are you taking him seriously?

>>54407788
Don't think they expected anyone to have one.

>>54407755
Like ACME TNT

>>54407760
>. Are we getting special detachments as well?

I dont think so and they haven't mentioned them. The tactics are dull mainly because of the stratagems which will offer even more bonuses and will basically buff your army so they'll be similar to formations in that sense where if you like a unit and have a bunch in your army then you pick the stratagem that buffs them.

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>>54407422
>somebody runs maulerfiend
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

>>54407753
Shit ignore me there, those are World Eaters (Khorne worshipping) not Word Bearers, they have an iron trim rather than gold. But both have chapter tactics coming so up to you. Some other chaos undivided legions/chapters are Black Legion, Alpha Legion, and the Red Corsairs (my favourite next to DG).

>>54407753
Good to know, gona read through the various traitor factions later, and whatever else the wikis lead me on to.

>>54407743
>>54407757
>>54407796

Figured as much, thanks for the replies.

>>54407737
Given that everyone seems to be treating him as "Generic Archmagos" anyway, I'm not surprised. Winters SEO has his D-17 custom guy in grey, I've seen him in orange, green and oil-slick black. Unless the codex has some REALLY good Forge Specialties or some stipulation for an unaligned Archmagos everyone is going to run Mars, though, which makes me sad.

>>54407600
see >>54407651
Sonic blasters are fucking lame, and it's a waste of opportunity to NOT give them sweet guitars

>>54407797
space terminators

>>54407753
They're painted up to be Crimson Slaughter not Word Bearers, because for some reason GW wanted to make Word Bearers but not for that starter set.

>>54407778
>Techpriests have expanded consciousnesses. Any Dominus worth his salt can fap, troll 40kchan.noosphere, manage his starship and give orders to random fucks on the ground pretty easily.

Implying he's not just trolling a thousand separate threads of 40kchan.noosphere.

Or in order to troll fellow AdMech followers you need to devote more than just a sliver of your consciousnesses

>>54407818
They aren't terrible, I'm just afraid to run one because of that risk of soaking d6 damage in turn one and then having all my stats go to shit.

>>54407797
Aquila Macro Cannon
Konor will NOT fall!

>>54407710
>All I want is Space Marines vs Chaos for all eternity
How do you not want new models for every faction?

>>54407675

>He thinks the Redemptor rivals a leviathan in any way

Point at him, point at him and laugh.

>>54407846
http://www.spellcrow.com/guitars-with-hands-p-276.html

>>54407797
The DAngels will be (rather reluctantly) supporting the blue smurf. If it furthers the Emperor's light I guess...

>>54407808

Good I want them to keep the creep as slow as possible this edition. The more dull the better in my opinion.

So with the way deployment and going first works now are MSU stratagems dead or just weakened?

>>54407858
>in order to troll fellow AdMech followers you need to devote more than just a sliver of your consciousnesses

Now we know why the Cawl Inferior exists.

>>54407749
there no rule for 8ed

>>54407864
Sup my dude, did you get that bad bitch painted yet? How did the roomies react?

>>54407675
Redemptor is literally a bootleg Leviathan, easier to manufacture but not as deadly.

>>54407797
Nothing but 3W Acolytes with power maul and needle pistol dropping from Valks.

Failing that thanks to retarded FAQ, back to the decade old MSU list, but replacing flamers with Storm Bolters

>>54407866
Only models you need are ones that I can beat up. You're just an NPC, you don't need anything fancy.

>>54407184
Sounds like a cool (yet hard) idea but unfortuantly fluff-wise it would be hard to pull off, the biggest flaw would be Ork tech, especially big, complicated Ork tech starts to malfunction or not work at all if theres no Orks about, also seeing how zealous the Death Watch are, especially about xenos, I would doubt they would ever use xeno tech.

>>54407607
>getting obliterated by FW models
Wow, this is pretty lame

>>54407858
That's the Magos Logis, anon. Or possibly the entire reason for the Rite of Multiplescence. Five techpriest brains linked together, shitposting in unison.

So Imperial armies can now mix and match? Like SM detachment taking a few AM units, or vice versa?

>>54407921
Are you aware of what Furor Shield is up against? I think they can be forgiven using the tools of the enemy against them a bit more than usual.

>>54407913
Fluff wise, relative to the Leviathan, the the Redemptor is less defense, more offense.

>>54407891
People still build for MSU knowing they'll go second now.

The bigger detriment to MSU nowadays is splitfire on everything.

>>54407929
Yes but you'd be losing access to stratagems and chapter tactics, regimental rules for Imperial Guard will probably have the same restriction as CT where all units in a detachment must be from Imperial Guard.

>>54407905
Complain to GW then

>>54407797

3e monolith and destroyers

3e raveners and dakkafex

>>54407785
if I'm understanding the order of operations properly

>you can take two items from the equipment list, total
>either 2 from the first section
>or 1 from the second section and one from the first section

so you can (for example) run boltgun/storm shield marines, but not boltgun/storm shield/chainsword marines

>>54407920
>marines are tools
Anon you have the NPC faction.

Saying otherwise would be like saying healing potions are the protagonist of an RPG

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>>54406511
After seeing the Chapter Tactics for Iron Hands I have to ask, are we doomed to play second fiddle to the Death Guard now? We used to be the vehicle Legion, now we get nothing for them. Is this retribution for Smashfucker?

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>>54407908
Slowly. They didn't work last night so I have an hour tops before I have to stop again when they wake up. I could probably totally run it as the Missile Silo right now though.
Should be done SOON tm

>>54407982
Stratagem, Anon.

>>54407793

>ctrl f
>allies

nothing

>>54407797
My Sisters of battle army, perhaps it will inspire GW to bring out plastic models......HAA

>>54407982
Wait for tomorrow, your warlord/stratagem will most likely be vehicle related, either a buff for transports or dreads or something.

>>54407969
That makes no sense. But cry harder for me, NPC boy.

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What would be the best chapter tactic to use if I only wanted to use Chadmarines

>>54408002
Literally get some Sisters of silence and you can convert them into SoB easily

>>54407997
Faction Keywords.
That should be a clue.

>>54408031

Salamanders or smurfs

>>54408031
The shooty ones, RG/UM/IF are all good.

>>54407997
In other words you didn't read it

Well played

>>54408017
>he doesn't know
Marines are tools. Know your lore before being silly

>>54408031
If you want to run them next to a Stormraven use Ravenguard

>>54408008
>>54407994
Ah, right. Somehow that slipped my mind.

>>54408031
raven guard, since most of the fatmarine vehicles seem kind of shit so far

>>54408031
Ultramarines or Ravenguard.

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>>54406543

>Global Campaign
>Death Guard vs Ultramarines
>Ultramarines get their codex at the beginning of the campaign
>Death Guard get theirs a month after the campaign finishes

Can't make this fucking shit up

>>54407982
Since Damocles raised the RG profile IH have basically been the least relevant loyalist 1st founding marines. Without a special character GW has little reason to spend much effort on them.

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How do I make a fluffy IW list? Not really interested in oblits, but what about Basilisks? Are Vindicators any good? A bunch of Preds?

>>54408035
Havn't seen a good conversion including backpacks or heavy weapons yet.

>>54408002
May the light, of the Saint Sarah Konor protect you, and guide your sisters to glorious victory for the imperium of Man.

>>54408067
That date isn't confirmed at all.

>>54408035
>grab Orks
>turn them into Eldar
>they are both xenos
I know what you mean, but really?

You can just get a recast

>>54408035
nah I'd prefer not to spend a fortune on green stuff either

>>54408031
Raven Guard tactics work really well with the longer range on Bolt Rifles.

>>54408050
Marines are the hammer that crushes the eggshells that are NPCs. You exist for our entertainment.

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>>54407762
>There's da zoggin propella ya git!
Jak and Daxter fan if haven't already guessed that.

>>54408047
> IF
> Good
Choose one and only one

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>>54407355
>tfw they are keeping Morty back so the DG dont fuck Konor

>>54408107
>marines
>Hammer
Oh BOI!
Imperial Guard is the Hammer
You sure know nothing about the lore

>>54407797
2e eldar jet bikes for pop up attacks
>kids these days

>>54407905
>inb4 primaris titans

>>54408107

>Roleplaying as the ultimate faggot teen boy power fantasy bait faction

>>54408077
Well they are one of the best armies right now, so I doubt it would be hard

>>54407891
Salamanders will always go MSU for maximum freerolls. It's the worst side effect of their ability

>>54408133
Imperial Guard are the NPCs that basically act as the effeminate beta cuckold who isn't able to kill the other NPCs on his own and needs the proper NPC killers to get shit done. But hey, keep baiting, maybe you'll get good someday. NPC boy.

>>54408124
Ehh. Combined with Bolt Rifles, Chads get a comfy 2+ in Cover while Marinelets make due with a 4+

>>54408165
>marines are basically a gay joke
>call other effeminate
BOI!

>>54408156
>roleplaying as the literal video game characters said teenage boys kill on a regular basis

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>>54408069
I often wonder why we're so thoroughly ignored. My theory is that our Primarch was killed and isn't Sanguinius. Without him we're just a bunch of whiny robot men. Then again, Ferrus Manus is a terribly lazy name so maybe nobody gave a damn from the very beginning.

@54408192
>being gay = being feminine
Literally what alternate universe do you come from? Either way, your bait is terrible.

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>>54407879
THAT'S THE SPIRIT BROTHER

>>54408204
It's because Sons of Medusa are the real IH.

>"abloobloo ignored"
>"no ICs"
>had an entire supplement and memefaggot chapter master

>>54408165

You know that marines are religious fanatic Mary Sues with no working genetalia right

Why would you be proud of being a brainwashed tool with no thoughts or feelings of their own whose dick doesn't work and who has fifteen minutes of free time per day

They're designed so that prepubescent boys will think they're cool

>>54408204
Sanguinius died for your sins

>>54406750
>no audiobook
RIP interest

>>54407982
Chapter tactics are only one part of the equation and people right now are just mathammering anyway with no game experience.

Like saying BT is shit. Literally making or failing a charge can turn the tide of battle. It makes long charges outside of heavy flamer overwatch range easier. Plus BT have amazing character buffs and other things yet to be seen including likely their unique squad makeup. Lots of items on the scales, only full on retards are going to base everything on the leaked tactics.

>inb4 GW can't balance anyway

>>54408193
>marines die like nothing in video games
>Guardsmen gun them down
>a lone firewarrior guns them down
Back to the tool box!

>>54408096
>buy blue stuff silicone molds
>buy Triumvirate of Imperium for sister torsos
>get SoS
>make ez pressmold of sister torsos
>put greenstuff on sister of silence torso and press mold
>???
>profit

As for heads, not sure what you'd use

>>54407944
Well then, add a lot of purity seals then.

>>54408204
Just keep your head down and soldier on. I'm sure you'll eventually get a named character.

>>54408233
>muh freedumbs
>muh dick
Top fucking kek are NPCs secretly niggers?

>>54408253
Immolator, it has a head with a helmet